after today I really hope nobody ever talks about the spurs FO being good at anything ever again

[Genovaswitness]

losing the next jordan :lmao

extending mills and gasol :lmao

asking kawhi to take a discount when they're about to extend and max psycho loser derozan :lmao

[Proxy]

Spurs FO is good

[Proxy]

bitch

[Genovaswitness]

b-but they draft well :lmao

[Killakobe81]

They did the best they could... They saaaaaid.

[timtonymanu]

Blow to the franchise title hopes, but they will still be a competent team to make the playoffs and still have a history of good draft picks. Just don't expect them to get big names in free agency when they seek out the Dante Cunningham's of the league all the time. Hyperbole, tbh.

[paperboy77]

losing the next jordan :lmao

extending mills and gasol :lmao

asking kawhi to take a discount when they're about to extend and max psycho loser derozan :lmao


Couldnt tell but but did I see derozen out on the court after the game?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The FO is past it. Kawhi killed them

[paperboy77]

Danny Green almost fucked that game up for them.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring

[Genovaswitness]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring

whatever makes you feel better brah. kawhi facefucked SA by winning a ship and getting finals MVP first year off the spurs plantation

[K...]

The draft is in one week...we will all be stanning PAFTO again soon

[jmard5]

Spurs FO is still good. Fact. Raptors winning their first championship DOES NOT diminish that.

There. So what are you going to do about it?

[DeRozan m8]

How is it the FO fault that Kawhi wanted to be in LA and refused to play for us?

Classic dumb cunt fan

[cjw]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring

This. The Spurs win the series in 5 though, not 6

[Genovaswitness]

How is it the FO fault that Kawhi wanted to be in LA and refused to play for us?

Classic dumb cunt fan

you actually changed your username to have derozan in it...wow...

[TheGreatYacht]

Faggots thinking our crop of losers can beat this GSW team

We lost to the team who got beat by the team that got SWEPT by Golden State.

Enjoy your 47 win seasons and first round beatdowns, losers. Kawhi runs the east

[dbreiden83080]

FO helped win 5 chips moron.. Tony and Manu were not exactly highly thought of draft picks.. In fact nobody knew who the fuck they were in the states.. And the teams that needed complimentary pieces to win chips, usually got those pieces. Oh yeah and Number 2, who believed in him again? Yeah the Spurs.. So fuck off..

[gameFACE]

But hey, "the Spurs do things the right way...."

[dbreiden83080]

Faggots thinking our crop of losers can beat this GSW team

We lost to the team who got beat by the team that got SWEPT by Golden State.

Enjoy your 47 win seasons and first round beatdowns, losers. Kawhi runs the east

Then his ass should have no problem staying put and defending it again..

Or does he run to LA? Check in with Uncle Whiny..

[Genovaswitness]

FO helped win 5 chips moron.. Tony and Manu were not exactly highly thought of draft picks.. In fact nobody knew who the fuck they were in the states.. And the teams that needed complimentary pieces to win chips, usually got those pieces. Oh yeah and Number 2, who believed in him again? Yeah the Spurs.. So fuck off..

retard spurs no longer have the monopoly on foreign players. PATFO ruined the franchise after failing to retain an all-timer

[dbreiden83080]

retard spurs no longer have the monopoly on foreign players. PATFO ruined the franchise after failing to retain an all-timer

Huh? They paid him 19 mil to sit out 10 months. Grow up..

[TimDunkem]

Spurs FO is good

Eh...Not anymore.

[Genovaswitness]

Huh? They paid him 19 mil to sit out 10 months. Grow up..

and they still could've done more to keep him

[Cardinal]

Y'all, it's not worth engaging with OP. We all cope with the loss of Kawhi in different ways. OP is just having a more idiotic meltdown than most.

[Payote75]

In a time that the word "owner" is being held in question and possibly removed because supposedly it has a tendency to show ownership of a player you kawitter fans are right we should have forced him to stay cause we owned his ass???? Makes no sense at all. With that being said even if the Spurs were wrong (which they most definitely were not) if your a true Spurs fan isn't it time to get over it and move on???? This team has brought us small market fans chip after chip and yet for one ingrate we want to turn on pop and the franchise. I just don't get how someone can be a real fan of a team if they just keep siding with kawitter which is fine you can follow the player I get it but why degrade the franchise????

For all the Spurs fans who hate pop and the front office what would you have done differently??? Try and smooth things over???? Oh yea didn't work.....appease him and trade him to the laker for josh hart and picks lol? Or should we have continued to harass the 76ers one final time for the great fultz who they would not even include.

The he dude put us over a barrel and effed the crap out of us but the Spurs are to blame???

[Wu36]

whatever makes you feel better brah. kawhi facefucked SA by winning a ship and getting finals MVP first year off the spurs plantation
Plan a day to kill your self with DeMar and lets us be. Bye...

[Wu36]

We aren’t trying to keep you with all your knowledge so fuck off dipshit. Nobody cares.

[DavidTheGoliath]

whatever makes you feel better brah. kawhi facefucked SA by winning a ship and getting finals MVP first year off the spurs plantation

Still doesnt change the fact that its an asterisk ring.
Why would i loose sleep over this? Im not the one creating threads and chest thumping like a wild gorilla. "Look at me guys! Im right the front office is wrong! Im basically god right now"

[Genovaswitness]

Still doesnt change the fact that its an asterisk ring.
Why would i loose sleep over this? Im not the one creating threads and chest thumping like a wild gorilla. "Look at me guys! Im right the front office is wrong! Im basically god right now"

injuries are part of the game. you aren’t good if you aren’t healthy. again whatever makes you feel better

[DavidTheGoliath]

injuries are part of the game. you aren’t good if you aren’t healthy. again whatever makes you feel better

So youre saying they won by luck and not on KLs basketball abilitys? Got it.

[tbdog]

You got to hand Raptors credit. They went all in for one chance. Did a mid season trade just to get by 76ers. Warriors falling apart physically was great karma. I'm most upset that uncle now wins. He gets the coin. He looks like a genius. His cunt move pays off plus even more.

[azarel]

and they still could've done more to keep him

why? were you going to help pay for nephew's salary to sit out for another season?

[rascal]

Spurs fo is over rated. Duncan was the reason for the championships.

[rascal]

In a time that the word "owner" is being held in question and possibly removed because supposedly it has a tendency to show ownership of a player you kawitter fans are right we should have forced him to stay cause we owned his ass???? Makes no sense at all. With that being said even if the Spurs were wrong (which they most definitely were not) if your a true Spurs fan isn't it time to get over it and move on???? This team has brought us small market fans chip after chip and yet for one ingrate we want to turn on pop and the franchise. I just don't get how someone can be a real fan of a team if they just keep siding with kawitter which is fine you can follow the player I get it but why degrade the franchise????

For all the Spurs fans who hate pop and the front office what would you have done differently??? Try and smooth things over???? Oh yea didn't work.....appease him and trade him to the laker for josh hart and picks lol? Or should we have continued to harass the 76ers one final time for the great fultz who they would not even include.

The he dude put us over a barrel and effed the crap out of us but the Spurs are to blame???

Spurs waited too long to make a trade. Should have made a trade no later than draft night.

[Gamechannel]

Spurs fo is over rated. Duncan was the reason for the championships.

So did you forget about low slot, high value picks like Many, TP, Nephew, DM etc? And the fact the developed them? How about finding guys like Bowen, Green etc from relative obscurity?

Or are you saying that Duncan was a GM-Scout-Player all rolled into one?

[monty4329]

You got to hand Raptors credit. They went all in for one chance. Did a mid season trade just to get by 76ers. Warriors falling apart physically was great karma. I'm most upset that uncle now wins. He gets the coin. He looks like a genius. His cunt move pays off plus even more.

That's pretty much all there is to say. The ring proves Kawhi was right (a piece of crap still, but right).

[dg7md]

Tony Parker publicly shaming our superstar player has more to do with it than anything, but the FO didn't help by not siding with our superstar. There's a reason Danny Green got packaged with Kawhi too and it wasn't just because of the contract.

[DeRozan m8]

retard spurs no longer have the monopoly on foreign players. PATFO ruined the franchise after failing to retain an all-timer

What part of 'Kawhi wanted to go to LA' does your stupid cunt brain not compute?

Unless PATFO can change geography?

[azarel]

Tony Parker publicly shaming our superstar player has more to do with it than anything, but the FO didn't help by not siding with our superstar. There's a reason Danny Green got packaged with Kawhi too and it wasn't just because of the contract.

tbh i don't blame TP for shaming nephew about his bogus injury. the whole team probably were tired of all the lies that kawhi were spinning in regards whether he will be back for the season or not.

[Genovaswitness]

So youre saying they won by luck and not on KLs basketball abilitys? Got it.
no I just wanted to nip your bullshit angle in the bud

[offset formation]

losing the next jordan :lmao

extending mills and gasol :lmao

asking kawhi to take a discount when they're about to extend and max psycho loser derozan :lmao

Ohhhhh, does somewaddy need a nappy?

[GreekSpursfan]

Ungreatful Spurs fans as per fucking usual. Spurs FO is great and will deliver again, i believe in them. Losing three HOFs and uncle backstabber fucking you when you thought your window was still open and you people think any team could overcome these kind of events? As long as Pop is POBO we will come back on top, book it.

[Genovaswitness]

Ohhhhh, does somewaddy need a nappy?

nah just a coach with that LOB mentality

[Genovaswitness]

Ungreatful Spurs fans as per fucking usual. Spurs FO is great and will deliver again, i believe in them. Losing three HOFs and uncle backstabber fucking you when you thought your window was still open and you people think any team could overcome these kind of events? As long as Pop is POBO we will come back on top, book it.

give me an address or a PO Box and I’ll ship you a March of the penguins DVD and some HEB keurig cups

[Othyus Lalanne]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring

GSW gets the astrikses for the KD titles.

[MoSpur02]

:troll:dont:dont:dont

[Duncan87]

5titles>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>first ever title fukinDumb thread beating gleague Warrior team

[DavidTheGoliath]

no I just wanted to nip your bullshit angle in the bud

Poor dude cant even admit to himself that TOR won because golden shower was hobbled.

[DavidTheGoliath]

GSW gets the astrikses for the KD titles.

Lets put an asterisk on that 2014 ring because that team was just better than everyone else.

[bklynspursfan]

Spurs fo is over rated. Duncan was the reason for the championships.

Right, it's not like they played a part in who surrounded Duncan or anything...

[bic50]

Poor dude cant even admit to himself that TOR won because golden shower was hobbled.
Doesn’t really matter anymore. They won the title. If it were the spurs you wouldn’t be saying that

[Othyus Lalanne]

Lets put an asterisk on that 2014 ring because that team was just better than everyone else.

But it was not stacked. Needed every Bellineli bucket that came at the right time entire playoffs.


Poor dude cant even admit to himself that TOR won because golden shower was hobbled.

Kawhi was also hurting...

[bic50]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring
Big ass lie lmao

[daledondale]

Op is a raptors fan, posting in spurs forum. Fuck him, we still have 5 rings.

[Genovaswitness]

Op is a raptors fan, posting in spurs forum. Fuck him, we still have 5 rings.

lifelong spurs fan I’m just not a PATFO slurper like the rest of you

GAME DAY BALA GAME DAY :lmao

[kaji157]

I just wish we cut Mills. We need a sacrifice. We need the god's will.

[John B]

I didn’t know how swallow ST fans are. Just one pathetic diva made us forget what Pop/RC leadership did for the team and the city of San Antonio. All that culture of developing players, that beautiful game, changed our perception and appreciation by a conniving selfish diva? You call yourselves fans?

[itzsoweezee]

The trade was bad at the time it was made, it may now be there worst trade of all time. The incompetence is amazing

[cd98]

The trade was bad at the time it was made, it may now be there worst trade of all time. The incompetence is amazing

It's dumb to criticize the Spurs for the Toronto trade when there is only evidence that people were offering less for Kawhi than Toronto. If you want to talk incompetence, talk Danny Ainge not willing to trade Tatum or Brown for Kawhi. If he had, his team would have a title right now. Same for 76ers being unwilling to trade Ben Simmons. Even if Kawhi walks after one year, you got a title. Only a handful of the 30 teams have even one title. If Danny Ainge had won a title this year, they would bring down Red's jersey and replace it with Ainge as the best GM in Celtic history.

[widowmaker]

Spurs FO is one of the best. There i said it now what?

[widowmaker]

The trade was bad at the time it was made, it may now be there worst trade of all time. The incompetence is amazing

That dude would have faked another injury or would have became a distraction on some AD type of level and would have left at the end of the year. Problem is that dude had and has no loyalty.

[rjv]

I'm not sure if this is just grammatically bad or another sampling of ST hyperbole.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Doesn’t really matter anymore. They won the title. If it were the spurs you wouldn’t be saying that

Who told you i wouldnt?

[DavidTheGoliath]

But it was not stacked. Needed every Bellineli bucket that came at the right time entire playoffs.

10th guy on the rotation still contributing big? Sounds stacked to me


kawhi was also hurting...
But did he missed the games tho?

[Othyus Lalanne]

10th guy on the rotation still contributing big? Sounds stacked to me


But did he missed the games tho?
It's very different than having KD as a last resort when you get into trouble.

i assume you watched the games...

[DPG21920]

This is so stupid. I get being mad but no matter what SA has proven to be a top notch front office. They will rebound. This off season will be huge. Not just for SA but everyone.

One of the most monumental off seasons for the nba maybe ever.

[DavidTheGoliath]

It's very different than having KD as a last resort when you get into trouble.

i assume you watched the games...

I didnt. Can you remind me how many game(s) did he missed in the finals against golden shower?

[Othyus Lalanne]

I didnt. Can you remind me how many game(s) did he missed in the finals against golden shower?
No point to answering that.

[DavidTheGoliath]

No point to answering that.

Cant even give me a straight answer to a simple question smh.

If i indeed didnt watch the finals series, then this is your chance to prove me wrong. But you cant :cry

[Othyus Lalanne]

Cant even give me a straight answer to a simple question smh.

If i indeed didnt watch the finals series, then this is your chance to prove me wrong. But you cant :cry
I assumed you did anyways.

[RC_Drunkford]

who said that the Spurs FO is good? I mean the writing was on the wall in 2017 and a lot of people saw it coming. PATFO is only good at drafting and developing players. Other than that they average at best. Just look at the big men they paired up Duncan with while he was here

[rjv]

This is so stupid. I get being mad but no matter what SA has proven to be a top notch front office. They will rebound. This off season will be huge. Not just for SA but everyone.

One of the most monumental off seasons for the nba maybe ever.

[Budkin]

losing the next jordan :lmao

extending mills and gasol :lmao

asking kawhi to take a discount when they're about to extend and max psycho loser derozan :lmao

You're not even a Spurs fan. GTFO.

[Budkin]

Faggots thinking our crop of losers can beat this GSW team

We lost to the team who got beat by the team that got SWEPT by Golden State.

Enjoy your 47 win seasons and first round beatdowns, losers. Kawhi runs the east

It's time for you to haunt Raptors/Clippers forums. Enough.

[itzsoweezee]

It's dumb to criticize the Spurs for the Toronto trade when there is only evidence that people were offering less for Kawhi than Toronto. If you want to talk incompetence, talk Danny Ainge not willing to trade Tatum or Brown for Kawhi. If he had, his team would have a title right now. Same for 76ers being unwilling to trade Ben Simmons. Even if Kawhi walks after one year, you got a title. Only a handful of the 30 teams have even one title. If Danny Ainge had won a title this year, they would bring down Red's jersey and replace it with Ainge as the best GM in Celtic history..

Spurs were afraid to play hardball and got suckered. They could've gone into the season and when teams were clamoring to get into playoff position, been a player in the market. But yes, the Celtics are almost as much of a loser as the Spurs in this case, but they at least still have a strong young core and a shot at Anthony Davis. The Spurs have no flexibility and are paying gasol and Patty Mills millions more than their market values, and hoping that a guy coming off a major injury after a season where he only averaged 9 ppg is going to be a franchise altering player. Total incompetence.

[SAGirl]

who said that the Spurs FO is good? I mean the writing was on the wall in 2017 and a lot of people saw it coming. PATFO is only good at drafting and developing players. Other than that they average at best. Just look at the big men they paired up Duncan with while he was here
Some people would bring up Scola. That was long b4 my time as a fan though.

Aside from what you said they have also lost a lot of talent in recent years and the new hires are still tbd. I want to see what they do this summer and in the future. There’s a chance they may not get another player as good as Kawhi in a decade but I prefer not be that pessimistic. Perhaps I should be pessimistic and accept that they are as good as they are going to be right now and things can only get worse b4 they get better. Sometimes I do think this, particularly when they are on losing streaks...

[DavidTheGoliath]

Faggots thinking our crop of losers can beat this GSW team

We lost to the team who got beat by the team that got SWEPT by Golden State.

Enjoy your 47 win seasons and first round beatdowns, losers. Kawhi runs the east

If you can do better than PATFO then why are you here? Some perennial lottery teams are in dire need of your great basketball knowledge. Go out there and build a contending team...for 2 decades.

[cd98]

.

Spurs were afraid to play hardball and got suckered. They could've gone into the season and when teams were clamoring to get into playoff position, been a player in the market. But yes, the Celtics are almost as much of a loser as the Spurs in this case, but they at least still have a strong young core and a shot at Anthony Davis. The Spurs have no flexibility and are paying gasol and Patty Mills millions more than their market values, and hoping that a guy coming off a major injury after a season where he only averaged 9 ppg is going to be a franchise altering player. Total incompetence.

What if Kawhi came into this season as a Spur and refused to play and claimed that he was injured? What trade value would he have then? Spurs had no leverage. If they had leverage, they would be getting Anthony Davis offers. But a player that missed the season on a mysterious injury and that said he wanted to play in LA and that threatened to sit next season...why can you do with a guy torpedoing his value. They got the best deal they could. Spurs are not bad negotiators. They don't get fleeced in trades. They got killed in this trade because they had no leverage and everyone knew it. That's why they got lowballed.

[DPG21920]

What if Kawhi came into this season as a Spur and refused to play and claimed that he was injured? What trade value would he have then? Spurs had no leverage. If they had leverage, they would be getting Anthony Davis offers. But a player that missed the season on a mysterious injury and that said he wanted to play in LA and that threatened to sit next season...why can you do with a guy torpedoing his value. They got the best deal they could. Spurs are not bad negotiators. They don't get fleeced in trades. They got killed in this trade because they had no leverage and everyone knew it. That's why they got lowballed.

Would the Spurs be that worse off if Kawhi left for nothing? Honest question.

[itzsoweezee]

Would the Spurs be that worse off if Kawhi left for nothing? Honest question.

DeRozan is a net 0 player with a huge contract, and the 29th pick in this shitty draft is essentially worthless. They would've been better off missing the playoffs

[slick'81]

DeRozan is a net 0 player with a huge contract, and the 29th pick in this shitty draft is essentially worthless. They would've been better off missing the playoffs


That what i was thinking.You really only miss out on poodle but would obviously miss the playoffs.Still more cap space and better draft pic

[DPG21920]

DeRozan is a net 0 player with a huge contract, and the 29th pick in this shitty draft is essentially worthless. They would've been better off missing the playoffs

Maybe; but if SA can trade DeRozan and it nets assets? It will prove ^ this wrong though wouldn’t it?

[RC_Drunkford]

Would the Spurs be that worse off if Kawhi left for nothing? Honest question.

they would have 29 million more in cap space to sign free agents. So it's safe to say no

[itzsoweezee]

What if Kawhi came into this season as a Spur and refused to play and claimed that he was injured? What trade value would he have then? Spurs had no leverage. If they had leverage, they would be getting Anthony Davis offers. But a player that missed the season on a mysterious injury and that said he wanted to play in LA and that threatened to sit next season...why can you do with a guy torpedoing his value. They got the best deal they could. Spurs are not bad negotiators. They don't get fleeced in trades. They got killed in this trade because they had no leverage and everyone knew it. That's why they got lowballed.

They got fleeced. Teams get desperate during the season. Eg, Philly gave up a ridiculous amount for Tobias Harris. There would definitely have been a team willing to gamble and kawhi would probably have been desperate to play, because no matter what else, he definitely loves basketball. This front office has been making boneheaded decisions for at least the last 3 years

[GAustex]

I just wish we cut Mills. We need a sacrifice. We need the god's will.
That is funny
Thanks for the chuckle

[Strategic]

I’m sure your hopes and dreams are very important to you.

[itzsoweezee]

Maybe; but if SA can trade DeRozan and it nets assets? It will prove ^ this wrong though wouldn’t it?

That could potentially be a great move. But I'm seriously doubtful DeRozan will draw anything good in return in a trade. Spurs will probably have to take back bad contracts or give up a pick

[Dennis the Menace]

They got fleeced. Teams get desperate during the season. Eg, Philly gave up a ridiculous amount for Tobias Harris. There would definitely have been a team willing to gamble and kawhi would probably have been desperate to play, because no matter what else, he definitely loves basketball. This front office has been making boneheaded decisions for at least the last 3 years

Nailed it

[tbdog]

Leonard wasn't going to turn up due to injury. The group pulled him from team USA camp. They feared Pop would get him alone.

[Russ]

They got the best deal they could. Spurs are not bad negotiators. They don't get fleeced in trades. They got killed in this trade because they had no leverage and everyone knew it.

Agree.

See how the Kawhi trade looks in 3-4 years.

Kawhi may be a salary cap albatross by then. (If the Spurs were right, he has a chronic degenerative condition.)

Kawhi may not wear well with his new team (i.e., other than Toronto) on a five year deal. He won't have the good will of a championship to fall back on and he'll still be demanding at least 20 games off per season (maybe more later on). He won't be an "asset" in the PR world or the local community either.

Meanwhile, the Spurs may get more than we think out of DDR (or possibly a good player if he's traded). Plus, Poeltl may work out and even the 29th pick may surprise.

Everyone talked about how pathetic Detroit was when they had to sign and trade Grant Hill (another chronic injury risk) to Orlando for only a no-talent trade-filler named Ben Wallace. Detroit won the LOB with Wallace and Orlando has never won anything.

Fans and the media are always fighting (and analyzing) the last war rather than looking ahead.

[rjv]

Agree.

See how the Kawhi trade looks in 3-4 years.

Kawhi may be a salary cap albatross by then. (If the Spurs were right, he has a chronic degenerative condition.)

Kawhi may not wear well with his new team (i.e., other than Toronto) on a five year deal. He won't have the good will of a championship to fall back on and he'll still be demanding at least 20 games off per season (maybe more later on). He won't be an "asset" in the PR world or the local community either.

Meanwhile, the Spurs may get more than we think out of DDR (or possibly a good player if he's traded). Plus, Poeltl may work out and even the 29th pick may surprise.

Everyone talked about how pathetic Detroit was when they had to sign and trade Grant Hill (another chronic injury risk) to Orlando for only a no-talent trade-filler named Ben Wallace. Detroit won the LOB with Wallace and Orlando has never won anything.

Fans and the media are always fighting (and analyzing) the last war rather than looking ahead.

great points but they will fall on deaf ears in this "live in the now" world of ours.

[vy65]

Would the Spurs be that worse off if Kawhi left for nothing? Honest question.

100% agreed.


Maybe; but if SA can trade DeRozan and it nets assets? It will prove ^ this wrong though wouldn’t it?

There is no plausible, let alone probable, scenario where SA moves DeRozan.

[vy65]

What if Kawhi came into this season as a Spur and refused to play and claimed that he was injured? What trade value would he have then? Spurs had no leverage. If they had leverage, they would be getting Anthony Davis offers. But a player that missed the season on a mysterious injury and that said he wanted to play in LA and that threatened to sit next season...why can you do with a guy torpedoing his value. They got the best deal they could. Spurs are not bad negotiators. They don't get fleeced in trades. They got killed in this trade because they had no leverage and everyone knew it. That's why they got lowballed.

I'm curious how the guy who just led his team to a championship could sit out for a second year, functionally getting $40mm gratis. I haven't reviewed the CBA or KL's contract, but I'd be shocked if the Spurs wouldn't have any kind of leverage to either force KL to play, force KL to examination by independent doctors, or initiate an arbitration proceeding (an arbitration proceeding being the most likely).

I don't buy the notion that the Spurs had to trade him last summer and haven't seen a persuasive explanation to the otherwise.

[vy65]

I'm curious how the guy who just led his team to a championship could sit out for a second year, functionally getting $40mm gratis. I haven't reviewed the CBA or KL's contract, but I'd be shocked if the Spurs wouldn't have any kind of leverage to either force KL to play, force KL to examination by independent doctors, or initiate an arbitration proceeding (an arbitration proceeding being the most likely).

I don't buy the notion that the Spurs had to trade him last summer and haven't seen a persuasive explanation to the otherwise.

For example, there is nothing to suggest the Spurs couldn't use the Fitness-to-Play provisions of the CBA to force KL's hand ....

[Genovaswitness]

You're not even a Spurs fan. GTFO.
Im the biggest spurs fan alive

[rascal]

Right, it's not like they played a part in who surrounded Duncan or anything...

You could have surrounded Duncan with almost anyone and still win. Duncan was that good.

I always said No Duncan No Titles.

[baseline bum]

You could have surrounded Duncan with almost anyone and still win. Duncan was that good.

I always said No Duncan No Titles.

You also said you hated watching the Spurs with Duncan.

[cd98]

I'm curious how the guy who just led his team to a championship could sit out for a second year, functionally getting $40mm gratis. I haven't reviewed the CBA or KL's contract, but I'd be shocked if the Spurs wouldn't have any kind of leverage to either force KL to play, force KL to examination by independent doctors, or initiate an arbitration proceeding (an arbitration proceeding being the most likely).

I don't buy the notion that the Spurs had to trade him last summer and haven't seen a persuasive explanation to the otherwise.

He could sit out and get paid if he claimed injury.

[cd98]

Would the Spurs be that worse off if Kawhi left for nothing? Honest question.

I think they were better off with getting what they got. I’m not as low as people are here on DeRozen. Spurs wanted to make the playoffs and no way they do it without him. But even if you think all the pieces are garbage, at least look at what happens with those pieces in the next three years.

[cd98]

They got fleeced. Teams get desperate during the season. Eg, Philly gave up a ridiculous amount for Tobias Harris. There would definitely have been a team willing to gamble and kawhi would probably have been desperate to play, because no matter what else, he definitely loves basketball. This front office has been making boneheaded decisions for at least the last 3 years

Tobias Harris was trying. Kawhi could’ve done damage refusing to play and demanding a trade to the Lakers and vowing to sit out another season and being a visible blight on the Spurs organization. Plus Spurs wanted to be a playoff team and Kawhi sitting would’ve guaranteed no playoffs.

[vy65]

He could sit out and get paid if he claimed injury.

No.

[Payote75]

Spurs waited too long to make a trade. Should have made a trade no later than draft night.

For what Tobias Harris and one of those clipper picks? Nobody really know but it was mentioned the clippers were not going to give both picks and even if they had and one of those two picks or both became good players but Tobias left via free agency it still would of been crap all deals were crap. Even now I hold firm and say derozan was best deal. Poetyrl (spelling) is actually developing nickel if the Spurs were able to add bogdanovic(spelling) with keeping derozan and Aldridge with the young players and the picks they be a pretty good squad and in contention in the west next year depending how things work out with lakers and others. But if they were able to trade derozan for something worth while and add bodanovic(spelling) still in good shape there will be takers for derozan. They gave themselves some options while kawitter robbed us of any real options.

[JeffDuncan]

For example, there is nothing to suggest the Spurs couldn't use the Fitness-to-Play provisions of the CBA to force KL's hand ....

No, that isn't what Fitness to Play is about. It did not apply.

[JeffDuncan]

I'm curious how the guy who just led his team to a championship could sit out for a second year, functionally getting $40mm gratis. ...

The only recourse the Spurs would have had, to exert pressure on Leonard, was to stop paying him.

[weeks]

This is so stupid. I get being mad but no matter what SA has proven to be a top notch front office. They will rebound. This off season will be huge. Not just for SA but everyone.

One of the most monumental off seasons for the nba maybe ever.

fuck your nuance that shit is complicated for small brains
and it isn't edgy or easy to digest

it has to be all or nothing. patfo are incompetent morons OR kawhi is a piece of shit quitter
PERIOD

[vy65]

No, that isn't what Fitness to Play is about. It did not apply.

Oh ok

[itzsoweezee]

fuck your nuance that shit is complicated for small brains
and it isn't edgy or easy to digest

it has to be all or nothing. patfo are incompetent morons OR kawhi is a piece of shit quitter
PERIOD

Lol, what is the nuance in vastly overpaying Patty and Pau? What is the nuance in targeting a proven scrub like DeMar?

The problem is this front office thinks it's smarter than everyone else, but the empirical evidence is that it hasn't been for years.

[Genovaswitness]

GAME DAY BALA
GAME DAY

*gets completely lost on every screen*

*hasnt been worth shit since the torn labrum surgery*

those retarded fucking tweets are worth 50 mil :lmao

[Solid D]

Kawhi wanting out of SA was a bitter pill, considering the player development investment and amazing athletic gifts that he possessed. The return on the investment that went bye-bye remains to be seen...but one constant that remains, the original starter yeast dough, is the Spurs player development team. They are some of the best in the business and that development can make for some very tasty bread.

[duncan2k5]

Huh? They paid him 19 mil to sit out 10 months. Grow up..

KD shouldn't have been paid for that season he missed a shit ton of games, and he shouldn't be paid next season either, by ur logic

[dbreiden83080]

KD shouldn't have been paid for that season he missed a shit ton of games, and he shouldn't be paid next season either, by ur logic

One player was actually injured. The other one was advised by his uncle to pretend.

[rascal]

Current spurs team couldve beaten this hobbled gsw team. Asterisk ring

No they couldn't. Spurs couldn't beat anyone this year in the playoffs.

[DavidTheGoliath]

No they couldn't. Spurs couldn't beat anyone this year in the playoffs.

But they can beat themselves. Which means they can beat a playoff team. Which means you are wrong.

[Slippy]

KD shouldn't have been paid for that season he missed a shit ton of games, and he shouldn't be paid next season either, by ur logic

You for real?

Quite sure many skip over your posts but i can't be the only one that laughs at some of the crap you try to spin.

[bic50]

But they can beat themselves. Which means they can beat a playoff team. Which means you are wrong.
:lmao

[UncleDennis]

Well if it makes you happy everyone outside intimate Spur circles and fan groups already thinks that way, and if they didn't think that way before, the media has pushed this hard as the "The redemption of Kawhi," so it'll be known that way for good. I'm just waiting to see what he does in July.

[r0drig0lac]

Well if it makes you happy everyone outside intimate Spur circles and fan groups already thinks that way, and if they didn't think that way before, the media has pushed this hard as the "The redemption of Kawhi," so it'll be known that way for good. I'm just waiting to see what he does in July.

the only way he can ruin this is by joining Lebron and Davis in Los Angeles.

[TDMVPDPOY]

popabitch couldnt get over himself, wasted tims prime years

same shit now with kawhi, couldnt get himself...