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BatManu20
06-18-2019, 06:11 PM
Via The Athletic.

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phxspurfan
06-18-2019, 06:12 PM
Thats fine but we need at least 1 more SF for him to mentor. Hopefully we don't draft 3 more PGs

Rusty
06-18-2019, 06:16 PM
:lmao

slick'81
06-18-2019, 06:16 PM
12-13 per for no more then two seasons

BatManu20
06-18-2019, 06:18 PM
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TDMVPDPOY
06-18-2019, 06:18 PM
lol patfo another loyalty contract...seems like they havnt learn anything

glad kawhi left

rjv
06-18-2019, 06:18 PM
as long as it's not 10 mil over 10 mil (or even close to being that).

Emperor
06-18-2019, 06:20 PM
2yr/24mil and not a penny more.

Duncan2177
06-18-2019, 06:20 PM
lol patfo another loyalty contract...seems like they havnt learn anything

glad kawhi left

Yea RC has his head so far up Pops ass.

slick'81
06-18-2019, 06:21 PM
lol patfo another loyalty contract...seems like they havnt learn anything

glad kawhi left


Be mad at patty tbh.Without that deal we could go after bojan to pair with gay

gambit1990
06-18-2019, 06:21 PM
3 years / $42 million, just wait :lol

Mugen
06-18-2019, 06:22 PM
as long as it's not 10 mil over 10 mil (or even close to being that).

It's gonna be way more than that tbh.

Leetonidas
06-18-2019, 06:22 PM
Not really unexpected. As long as it's not more than 2 years/24-26 million

Mugen
06-18-2019, 06:24 PM
I'm going to guess 3yr/36mil, probably a player option on the final year.

slick'81
06-18-2019, 06:24 PM
It's gonna be way more than that tbh.

2/$30 sounds about spurs

slick'81
06-18-2019, 06:25 PM
I'm going to guess 3yr/36mil, probably a player option on the final year.


Would be a horrible deal if so

Dex
06-18-2019, 06:31 PM
Use those Bird rights and pay him for 2 years.

Right now, Spurs are a much better team when Rudy is on the floor and playing well.

Just don't give him a fucking Gasol contract.

DesignatedT
06-18-2019, 06:32 PM
2/30 is fine.

mo7888
06-18-2019, 06:36 PM
As long as it isn't over 2 years I don't care about the dollar figure attached

r0drig0lac
06-18-2019, 06:37 PM
Use those Bird rights and pay him for 2 years.

Right now, Spurs are a much better team when Rudy is on the floor and playing well.

Just don't give him a fucking Gasol contract.

Mugen
06-18-2019, 06:42 PM
Pretty much reaffirms that Bertans is probably the one being most actively shopped right now and is most likely gone this summer.

Makes sense from an FO perspective after his playoff run and never being a Pop guy. (Bert hasn't been thrilled about his playing time as well).

It'll be a mistake tho as I think he's going to be a much better rotation player than Forbes when we look back in 5 years. I think he'll be a really good piece for whatever team he ends up on next year...

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 06:48 PM
I don’t care about the dollar amount - 1 year only. 2nd year team option

Jordan Jackson
06-18-2019, 06:49 PM
Depending on the numbers got no problem with it.

Figured he was staying - he was pretty vocal
laet week praising the Spurs for his recovery.

Floyd Pacquiao
06-18-2019, 06:51 PM
He was horrendous in games 1-6 till that game 7. Man idk about this. Probably can't get a better vet small ball pf

Mugen
06-18-2019, 06:52 PM
I don’t care about the dollar amount - 1 year only. 2nd year team option

:lol You're smarter than this, Deepz.

SpurPadre
06-18-2019, 06:54 PM
Pop sure loves him some old fucks playing until the wheels fall off, tbh.

Degoat
06-18-2019, 06:57 PM
It’s a no brainer bringing him back, will have the full MLE with him back

GreekSpursfan
06-18-2019, 07:00 PM
It’s a no brainer bringing him back, will have the full MLE with him back

It was bound to happen, we had to do it.

TheRemix
06-18-2019, 07:02 PM
Well thats gay

SpurPadre
06-18-2019, 07:02 PM
He's an old fuck but it needed to happen. He's the one true SF we have if DeRozan is asked to start at the three next season.

timtonymanu
06-18-2019, 07:03 PM
:lol yeah let's bring in a guy who can't stay healthy all season and was a no-show against Denver.

Spurs front office really showing Nephew one for ditching them.

SpurOutofTownFan
06-18-2019, 07:03 PM
I'm already hearing the pussies in this thread complaining about how much money Gay will get. He's actually a solid player and proved he overcame a career-ending type of injury.

GB20
06-18-2019, 07:06 PM
It’s a no brainer bringing him back, will have the full MLE with him back

Exactly!! He knows the system really well and it seems gay is improving since he got here two years ago.

MoSpur02
06-18-2019, 07:08 PM
I'm good with it. He was solid all season long. Not sure why y'all are complaining.

Dennis the Menace
06-18-2019, 07:10 PM
Hope to God this front office learned from the Patty and Gasol contract disasters.

As as long as they move Derozan to either make room for Bojan or move up in the draft...

BillMc
06-18-2019, 07:11 PM
As long as the price isn't too high, happy to have Rudy back.

BatManu20
06-18-2019, 07:11 PM
Would’ve been a big loss if he left tbh. So long as it’s not a 3-yr deal, I’m happy about it.

Dennis the Menace
06-18-2019, 07:11 PM
I'm good with it. He was solid all season long. Not sure why y'all are complaining.

He had zero explosion in 6 of the 7 playoff games. Completely fell off a cliff.

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:15 PM
:lol You're smarter than this, Deepz.

Lol I know

widowmaker
06-18-2019, 07:17 PM
lol patfo another loyalty contract...seems like they havnt learn anything

glad kawhi left

yeah im glad kawhi left too! I dont want a sorry sack of shit on my team!

timvp
06-18-2019, 07:22 PM
As others have said, I don't care much about the dollar amount as long as the contract isn't longer than two years.

widowmaker
06-18-2019, 07:24 PM
Yes no more than 2 years should be good.

CGD
06-18-2019, 07:25 PM
Sounds about right, and what most of sound mind around here expected would happen. Good move.

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:28 PM
As others have said, I don't care much about the dollar amount as long as the contract isn't longer than two years.

I don’t want the 2nd year out of SA control either. DeRozan could opt out or be traded, LMA only 7M guaranteed. I don’t want Rudy on the books for no reason.

Dejounte
06-18-2019, 07:30 PM
He was a bright spot last season. Good teammate as well. He would do great as a mentor.

slick'81
06-18-2019, 07:30 PM
I don’t want the 2nd year out of SA control either. DeRozan could opt out or be traded, LMA only 7M guaranteed. I don’t want Rudy on the books for no reason.

I seriously doubt derozan walks away from 28 mil,lma from 25 etc

benefactor
06-18-2019, 07:34 PM
:tu

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:34 PM
I seriously doubt derozan walks away from 28 mil,lma from 25 etc

LMA has no choice. The team controls that. Harrison Barnes and Al Horford just walked away.

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:35 PM
He was a bright spot last season. Good teammate as well. He would do great as a mentor.


He was pretty bad 2nd half of the season imo.

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:36 PM
2 years, 40M but 2nd year fully non-guaranteed. Give him all the 2 years money in one year.

cjw
06-18-2019, 07:37 PM
Use those Bird rights and pay him for 2 years.

Right now, Spurs are a much better team when Rudy is on the floor and playing well.

Just don't give him a fucking Gasol contract.

Yes, the Spurs need Gay, but also don’t want this to be more than a two year deal. Heck, I’m fine paying him the max of his Early Bird rights (175% of $10mm) in a one year deal with no money beyond this year, with an understanding he may take less pay in the future.

If operating over the cap, it literally doesn’t matter what he makes on a one year deal. They’ll have the full MLE available.

If two years, I’d like to see something like $13 in year 1 and $12mm in year 2, with reverse escalators. That’s probably going to be done because they can frontload a bit.



2 years, 40M but 2nd year fully non-guaranteed. Give him all the 2 years money in one year.

Can’t pay him that much, and why would they ever do that knowing year 2 is going to be void? That contract doesn’t even work in trades anymore.

bic50
06-18-2019, 07:38 PM
yeah im glad kawhi left too! I dont want a sorry sack of shit on my team!
Salty af

bic50
06-18-2019, 07:39 PM
I always liked the gay signing

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 07:44 PM
Yes, the Spurs need Gay, but also don’t want this to be more than a two year deal. Heck, I’m fine paying him the max of his Early Bird rights (175% of $10mm) in a one year deal with no money beyond this year, with an understanding he may take less pay in the future.

If operating over the cap, it literally doesn’t matter what he makes on a one year deal. They’ll have the full MLE available.

If two years, I’d like to see something like $13 in year 1 and $12mm in year 2, with reverse escalators. That’s probably going to be done because they can frontload a bit.




Can’t pay him that much, and why would they ever do that knowing year 2 is going to be void? That contract doesn’t even work in trades anymore.

They can pay him close to that (was rounding up) and year two it’s the same logic as year one. If LMA and DeRozan are still here Rudy makes sense still in year 2 and mle still available. If not, team declines their option and he’s off the books

cjw
06-18-2019, 07:49 PM
They can pay him close to that (was rounding up) and year two it’s the same logic as year one. If LMA and DeRozan are still here Rudy makes sense still in year 2 and mle still available. If not, team declines their option and he’s off the books

Got it, see your logic and Gay would only give on team option if he’s getting paid an outsized amount, as that’s huge risk for someone at his age vs. signing a two year deal now. Would max out at $35-$37mm over two years in that case.

JeffDuncan
06-18-2019, 07:53 PM
I hope it's true Gay will be back. He may need some - dare I say it - load management through the season to keep his feet and ankles together, tho.

Proxy
06-18-2019, 08:02 PM
Nice

timvp
06-18-2019, 08:04 PM
I don’t want the 2nd year out of SA control either.

Optimally, yeah. If they need to go to two years to strike a deal, I'd be okay with that -- especially since the alternative is essentially losing him for nothing. But I don't want three years under any circumstances.

Millennial_Messiah
06-18-2019, 08:04 PM
Yes, the Spurs need Gay, but also don’t want this to be more than a two year deal. Heck, I’m fine paying him the max of his Early Bird rights (175% of $10mm) in a one year deal with no money beyond this year, with an understanding he may take less pay in the future.

Why would he do that in such an injury riddled league/sport?

FkLA
06-18-2019, 08:08 PM
The same people complaining would be saying "look everyone is jumping ship!" if Joto signed elsewhere.

He'll be a good mentor for Rui, tbh. :tu

R. DeMurre
06-18-2019, 08:18 PM
13.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 2.6 apg, 40% from three, 50% FG%-- $12 mil for his production is totally reasonable.

Dverde
06-18-2019, 08:32 PM
3 years guaranteed incoming! Probably 36 million with a player option.

Marcus Bryant
06-18-2019, 08:36 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 08:41 PM
Got it, see your logic and Gay would only give on team option if he’s getting paid an outsized amount, as that’s huge risk for someone at his age vs. signing a two year deal now. Would max out at $35-$37mm over two years in that case.

Yup. And that’s what I’m saying. Pay him his max in year one (which I don’t think he would get normally - maybe 12-14). He gives SA the 2nd year option because of that since he should easily be able to net positive if SA waives him year 2 by signing with another team then

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 08:45 PM
Optimally, yeah. If they need to go to two years to strike a deal, I'd be okay with that -- especially since the alternative is essentially losing him for nothing. But I don't want three years under any circumstances.


Sure but if SA isn’t going to extend DeRozan or LMA and they know that, but can’t trade them because they can’t find a palatable deal is losing Gay that big of a deal?

If SA is moving on from DeRozan/LMA after next season there’s no reason to worry about keeping Gay; if they are keeping DeRozan/LMA then 2 years makes sense.

widowmaker
06-18-2019, 08:55 PM
Salty af

it is what it is. People are trying hard as fuck to justify that dude ill never buy into it.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
06-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Use those Bird rights and pay him for 2 years.

Right now, Spurs are a much better team when Rudy is on the floor and playing well.

Just don't give him a fucking Gasol contract.In the regular season, yeah.

Capt Bringdown
06-18-2019, 09:24 PM
In the regular season, yeah.

Correct.
2 more years for a player who is unplayable in the post season?
The Spurs decline continues...

Keepin' it real
06-18-2019, 09:25 PM
He was, like, the worst Spur in the playoffs, so yeah, sure, let's re-sign the bastard. :bang

Roscoe P. Coltrane
06-18-2019, 09:26 PM
Pretty much reaffirms that Bertans is probably the one being most actively shopped right now and is most likely gone this summer.

Makes sense from an FO perspective after his playoff run and never being a Pop guy. (Bert hasn't been thrilled about his playing time as well).

It'll be a mistake tho as I think he's going to be a much better rotation player than Forbes when we look back in 5 years. I think he'll be a really good piece for whatever team he ends up on next year...
I've been saying that sense the Spurs got eliminated. He will be packaged with another player and one of the picks

John B
06-18-2019, 09:31 PM
I'm going to guess 3yr/36mil, probably a player option on the final year.
That sounds like a bargain compare to Gasol 19mil

Gordy58
06-18-2019, 09:39 PM
I know the idea is boring, but bringing the same squad with Rudy back together, plus adding another wing such as Carroll, Reggie Bullock via free agency is not a bad idea. There’s no true front runner next year. GSW might not even make the playoffs, the rockets are a sinking ship, kawhi might not even go back to Toronto. I think the league is wide open next year. I think there’s potential in making a title run.

alpha_HaZE
06-18-2019, 09:40 PM
3 years / $42 million, just wait :lol

Good guess, I was going to say 3 years 45mi :)

DPG21920
06-18-2019, 09:42 PM
I know the idea is boring, but bringing the same squad with Rudy back together, plus adding another wing such as Carroll, Reggie Bullock via free agency is not a bad idea. There’s no true front runner next year. GSW might not even make the playoffs, the rockets are a sinking ship, kawhi might not even go back to Toronto. I think the league is wide open next year. I think there’s potential in making a title run.

I’m good with this - I just want max flexibility. If it’s a 2 year plan with DeRozan & LMA I’m fine with Rudy for 2 years too. I just don’t want a situation with Rudy and no DeRozan/LMA

RC_Drunkford
06-18-2019, 09:42 PM
That's what they should do. I agree not more than 2 years and it should be under 15 million per year. I'm just interested if the Bogdanović rumors are real cause I don't see a way to sign the guy unless they trade DeRozan

Kurgan
06-18-2019, 09:44 PM
He was, like, the worst Spur in the playoffs, so yeah, sure, let's re-sign the bastard. :bang

2nd worst. Derozan was the worst Spur according to On-Off numbers.

Robz4000
06-18-2019, 09:49 PM
No more than two years and I'm fine with it. Spurs aren't contending in the next few years unless one of Murray, White, or Walker become superstars.

ace3g
06-18-2019, 10:07 PM
By2hR8Hl9vJ

By4BkkMn3LU

Marcus Bryant
06-18-2019, 10:46 PM
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkeMQjvWgAEfqdE.jpg

gambit1990
06-18-2019, 10:47 PM
what about rudy for $6 mil and a bonus $4 mil if he can stay healthy? :lol

Dejounte
06-18-2019, 10:49 PM
Bring PJ Tucker over, Rudy. He would be the perfect player to solve our defensive weaknesses.

tenbeersbold
06-19-2019, 01:10 AM
By2hR8Hl9vJ

By4BkkMn3LU

LMFAO,dump this dude fucking Bode fashion week shit,Rudy is a career loser just like Aldridge and DeRozan.All 3 have zero competitiveness or fire.Happy to half-ass it and make millions.

What a goddamn shame to be a Spurs fan after having the Big Three who had the heart, desire and will to win.

spurraider21
06-19-2019, 01:16 AM
what about rudy for $6 mil and a bonus $4 mil if he can stay healthy? :lol
why not for the veterans minimum while you're at it

EricB
06-19-2019, 01:26 AM
LMFAO,dump this dude fucking Bode fashion week shit,Rudy is a career loser just like Aldridge and DeRozan.All 3 have zero competitiveness or fire.Happy to half-ass it and make millions.

What a goddamn shame to be a Spurs fan after having the Big Three who had the heart, desire and will to win.


Yeah it it just sucks rooting for a perennial winning team. Fuck off.

Chinook
06-19-2019, 02:01 AM
People not wanting Gay back are dumb. No other way to say it. He's not keeping them from signing or trading for anyone else. Even if the team swings a deal for Bogdanovic, Gay's role as bench-dynamo will just become more solidified. Sure, I don't want a four-year deal either, I'm cool with him for two or even three years if that third year isn't fully guaranteed. He should age well and be worth around $12-15 Million a year going forward.

ElNono
06-19-2019, 02:14 AM
Since the FO appears happy to be in treadmill/irrelevant mode, it doesn't really matter, and honestly, as old as he is, he's still one of the few players that can make a highlight reel play here or there.

TheGreatYacht
06-19-2019, 02:29 AM
As long as the price isn't too high, happy to have Rudy back.
Admit it, Bill. Even if the price is high, you and the usual posters will defend PATFO's honor no matter what.

TheGreatYacht
06-19-2019, 02:32 AM
If there's a market for over the hill shitbags looking for one more big paycheck, no one's a close second. Let's try to get this deal done at 12:00:59 am this time

cutewizard
06-19-2019, 03:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jee9-sFiFnE

cutewizard
06-19-2019, 03:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyoWEtaI1oA

cd021
06-19-2019, 03:31 AM
As other people have said 2 years, $24-26 would be great. Wouldn't be shocked though, if there were a 3rd year team option that is non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed.

tenbeersbold
06-19-2019, 04:56 AM
Yeah it it just sucks rooting for a perennial winning team. Fuck off.

No you go fuck yourself...

DavidTheGoliath
06-19-2019, 05:34 AM
Admit it, Bill. Even if the price is high, you and the usual posters will defend PATFO's honor no matter what.

Youd be cumming all over the place if this was tony. Hypocrite.

anon
06-19-2019, 05:48 AM
Pretty much reaffirms that Bertans is probably the one being most actively shopped right now and is most likely gone this summer.

Makes sense from an FO perspective after his playoff run and never being a Pop guy. (Bert hasn't been thrilled about his playing time as well).

It'll be a mistake tho as I think he's going to be a much better rotation player than Forbes when we look back in 5 years. I think he'll be a really good piece for whatever team he ends up on next year...
Watch Bud snap up Bertans to replace Mirotic. Bertans gonna sniff another conference finals in the tougher conference before the Spurs could in the wide-open conference. And the decade's pattern of ex-Spurs doing better their first year off the team lives on.

monty4329
06-19-2019, 06:38 AM
At 12-14 per, there's nobody better than Rudy available.

Although an option might be not signing Rudy, engineer a way to combine his 12 plus the MLE plus change and sign Harris to a 78/3yrs

exstatic
06-19-2019, 06:47 AM
At 12-14 per, there's nobody better than Rudy available.

Although an option might be not signing Rudy, engineer a way to combine his 12 plus the MLE plus change and sign Harris to a 78/3yrs
You don’t understand how the CBA works at all.

monty4329
06-19-2019, 07:04 AM
You don’t understand how the CBA works at all.

I actually do and it is exactly feasible with a S&T. Try it on any calculator -RGM or any other- and come back. Or not. Whatever.

r0drig0lac
06-19-2019, 07:34 AM
LMFAO,dump this dude fucking Bode fashion week shit,Rudy is a career loser just like Aldridge and DeRozan.All 3 have zero competitiveness or fire.Happy to half-ass it and make millions.

What a goddamn shame to be a Spurs fan after having the Big Three who had the heart, desire and will to win.

you forgot to quote "talent" as one of the factors

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-19-2019, 07:39 AM
At 12-14 per, there's nobody better than Rudy available.

Although an option might be not signing Rudy, engineer a way to combine his 12 plus the MLE plus change and sign Harris to a 78/3yrs

You can’t combine the exceptions and you don’t get the MLE if you use cap space, only the room exception, which you’ve guessed it - you can’t combine.

Dverde
06-19-2019, 08:33 AM
LMFAO,dump this dude fucking Bode fashion week shit,Rudy is a career loser just like Aldridge and DeRozan.All 3 have zero competitiveness or fire.Happy to half-ass it and make millions.

What a goddamn shame to be a Spurs fan after having the Big Three who had the heart, desire and will to win.

I hope he can still fit in these expensive clothes when he is driving up to San Angelo for an autograph session 20 years from now.

GreekSpursfan
06-19-2019, 08:34 AM
We're not winning shit the next couple of years so whatever... If things go south he might be the perfect tank commander next to Patty. I have zero problem with this move.

superbigtime
06-19-2019, 09:01 AM
I like Rudy even though he can dress like RuPaul and was a hollow tin can for most of the playoffs. Re-signing him does make sense.

superbigtime
06-19-2019, 09:04 AM
I hope he can still fit in these expensive clothes when he is driving up to San Angelo for an autograph session 20 years from now.

You in San Angelo?

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-19-2019, 09:12 AM
Spurs are better with Rudy.

Drom John
06-19-2019, 10:11 AM
Salary earned last year, Real Plus Minus Wins

64) Rudy Gay, $15,944,154 (Ian Mahinmi) very good #3, 15th best SF

Gay had the 64th most RPM Wins. Mahinmi had the 64th highest salary.

DAF86
06-19-2019, 10:16 AM
By2hR8Hl9vJ

By4BkkMn3LU

Honoring his name, I see.

tenbeersbold
06-19-2019, 12:30 PM
you forgot to quote "talent" as one of the factors
No I didn't.
That's the sad part that DDR,LMA and Gay have the talent but not the desire to become better and compete on every possession
I have to admit there was a practice video posted here a few years a go with Timmy(first preseason retired) coaching up LMA and LMA just quit and walked away from Tim when it got too much for him,that right there gave me huge doubts about his drive and sadly it's been born out.

MannyIsGod
06-19-2019, 12:50 PM
Rudy was great last year. Hopefully he can stick around and continue that. If our young guards can up their play, the West is very much open now. What a difference a year makes.

TheCerebral1
06-19-2019, 02:55 PM
Typical Spurs moves. Bleh. I don't hate Rudy Gay, but at this point....this team needs a new voice.

Spurs da champs
06-19-2019, 02:58 PM
Honoring his name, I see.

:lol

rjv
06-19-2019, 05:15 PM
People not wanting Gay back are dumb. No other way to say it. He's not keeping them from signing or trading for anyone else. Even if the team swings a deal for Bogdanovic, Gay's role as bench-dynamo will just become more solidified. Sure, I don't want a four-year deal either, I'm cool with him for two or even three years if that third year isn't fully guaranteed. He should age well and be worth around $12-15 Million a year going forward.

Spurtacular
06-19-2019, 05:23 PM
Great. Gonna have to listen to the trolls whine their asses off for the next two or three years cos they think established players aren't supposed to make any millions.

Spurtacular
06-19-2019, 05:26 PM
You in San Angelo?

It's a nice town. Hudman Drug Store finally out of business?

ECOV
06-19-2019, 05:39 PM
Honoring his name, I see.

Lol haters gon hate

cjw
06-19-2019, 05:48 PM
The Spurs can also probably pay him more than over half the teams. If teams strike out in FA, could get interest from one of those teams

Teams without cap space and only MLE available (or taxpayer MLE), or with minimal cap space that will amount to $10mm or less ... order from highest to lowest cap committed per Spotrac:

- OKC
- MIA
- CLE
- TOR (unless Gasol opts out which is unlikely and Leonard leaves)
- HOU (lol)
- GS (unless both Curry and Thompson left)
- DEN (opting out on Millsap and renouncing Lyles doesn’t create enough)
- DET
- WAS (even without Jabari unless they can get off Manhimi; have Ariza non-Bird rights anyway)
- MIN
- CHA (even if Kemba leaves)


Possibly with space:
- BOS (Irving/Horford gone, but also need to get off Morris or Rozier cap holds) ... not a fit, need a PG
- MIL (likely focusing on keeping team together)
- UTA (Favors option not picked up and they renounce other guys)
- ORL (only if Vucevic walks)
- PHI (depends on what happens with their FA)


With space:
- MEM could have $25-$30+ but need to account for JVal if they keep him. Gay unlikely to go back there given money invested at his position
- PHX could have around $15 even accounting for Oubre’s hold
- LAL ... already chronicled by the entire internet how much they might have
- CHI will be in the $25-$30 range
- NOP but need to account for high cap hits of 1 and 4 picks, and whether they want to keep Randle
- SAC will have tons of space as none of cap holds are worth keeping
- ATL will have room for a max guy but more likely to take on other teams’ trash for assets
- IND is a big question mark, and everything will depend on what they do with Bogdanovic
- DAL
- LAC
- BKN
- NYK

Barfunk
06-19-2019, 07:45 PM
The same people complaining would be saying "look everyone is jumping ship!" if Joto signed elsewhere.

He'll be a good mentor for Rui, tbh. :tu 100000% The same thing goes for DeRozan. If they were to let him go, more than half the forum would complain, "I can't believe PATFO let go a sure fire 21, 6, and 6 guy in his prime just like that, they are absolutely incompetent".

Dennis the Menace
06-19-2019, 07:58 PM
100000% The same thing goes for DeRozan. If they were to let him go, more than half the forum would complain, "I can't believe PATFO let go a sure fire 21, 6, and 6 guy in his prime just like that, they are absolutely incompetent".

White will be able to put up those numbers in his sleep, with more efficiency. Murray, White, Walker continue develop. Derozan will be a 5th option behind them and Aldridge. Waste. Of. Space with that salary

Barfunk
06-19-2019, 08:06 PM
White will be able to put up those numbers in his sleep, with more efficiency. Murray, White, Walker continue develop. Derozan will be a 5th option behind them and Aldridge. Waste. Of. Space with that salary

I'm not so sure about that. DeRozan is still a better scorer, for now, than White. He averaged 48% from the field, so he's not exactly an inefficient chucker. White obviously is the better all round player, primarily because of his great defense.

JeffDuncan
06-20-2019, 01:16 AM
White will be able to put up those numbers in his sleep, ...

Dream on. DDR averaged 21 ppg. White averaged 10, and out of 67 regular season games, White scored more than 20 pts only 5 times. DDR, in 77 games, scored more than 20 pts 29 times. White is never going to be the kind of scorer DDR is.

Chinook
06-20-2019, 02:27 AM
Dream on. DDR averaged 21 ppg. White averaged 10, and out of 67 regular season games, White scored more than 20 pts only 5 times. DDR, in 77 games, scored more than 20 pts 29 times. White is never going to be the kind of scorer DDR is.

It's just not reasonable to expect any of White, Murray or Walker to become a better player than DeRozan is. It's possible that one of them gets there, sure, but very few in the league are that good, so the odds aren't in they're favor. Any DeRozan trade needs to bring back someone worth the talent drop. That could be a guy like Hunter, Barrett, Hachimura or Doumbouya. It probably isn't just cap space or a clear third option like Bogdanovic. There are definitely combinations of assets that are intriguing, but it's going to be a big gamble that any of the young guards is going to be a consistent third option this year, let alone a 1B type.

childishbambi
06-20-2019, 04:12 AM
Glad he's coming back. Will he be the last player signed? Hopefully, Spurs can sign and trade for Bogdonavic for 2yrs, then sign Brogdon for less than 22MM. Then make a run for Giannis when be becomes a UFA.


murray | white | forbes
brogdon | walker
bogdonavic | okeke | johnson
aldrige | gay | metu
poetl | milutinov | eubanks

superbigtime
06-20-2019, 07:39 AM
It's a nice town. Hudman Drug Store finally out of business?

i think so too :)

I've been here 4 yrs and have not seen that place. Where is/was it? Meyers drugstore is running biz still.

Spurtacular
06-20-2019, 08:23 AM
i think so too :)

I've been here 4 yrs and have not seen that place. Where is/was it? Meyers drugstore is running biz still.

Main St; presumably where it all started. Was across from a Winn Dixie. Nickel scoop ice cream cones. Other food good too.

superbigtime
06-20-2019, 11:10 AM
Main St; presumably where it all started. Was across from a Winn Dixie. Nickel scoop ice cream cones. Other food good too.

nice. well I looked it up. evidently still running. hafta check it out.

TheCerebral1
06-20-2019, 11:41 AM
Average second rate trash, aka the Spurs MO post Timmy.