Monastery of Luka Samanic

[BillMc]

https://youtu.be/XKFxCtTyvS4

Check the defense at 5:23

That is just fucking insane how he kept up with Dort. Made him airball badly at the end.

His lateral speed is really impressive. Most men his height are lumbering, but Luka is smooth. Actually hope they don't want him to bulk up too much and lose some of that.

[John B]

His lateral speed is really impressive. Most men his height are lumbering, but Luka is smooth. Actually hope they don't want him to bulk up too much and lose some of that.
Agree. This is just a matter of familiarization with the play which could be remedied by some film sessions. But the mobility and quickness is there. I hope Pop will be more patient with him and giving him more opportunities to prove himself. Luka realizing his potential coukd be Gay’s replacement at the least and/or even Aldridge’s if he makes the leap, which potentially put the Spurs in a great position come FA when addressing both players.

[Coach X]

So anybody else jumping on the "SF Samanic" bandwagon?

Agree with Gangrath, he probably turns into a pure 4 in a few years, but currently, the 3 is his position, me thinks.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nah he’s a 4 in my book. No reason to play him at the 3 or the 5

[tim_duncan_fan]

So anybody else jumping on the "SF Samanic" bandwagon?

Agree with Gangrath, he probably turns into a pure 4 in a few years, but currently, the 3 is his position, me thinks.

I mean, I would try it, but that would never happen because we don't like playing positions with size. We like 6'4 guys at small forward. Luka is a center.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I’m glad Noah made this video. I wish he would do more analysis on stuff because he solid at it.

Luka showed why the front office drafted him with his athletic ability against OKC. I will say though he is still better as a 4 and doing a solid job on Dort isn’t the same thing as guarding the average NBA player who plays the 3. Lol.

I’m gonna miss tonight’s game but I hope he does well

[exstatic]

I mean, I would try it, but that would never happen because we don't like playing positions with size. We like 6'4 guys at small forward. Luka is a center.

Nope. He’s not a 5, either, at least not on defense. He’s surprisingly ineffective as a rim protector for someone who is 6’10” with a 38” vert, and I don’t believe he is aware enough to quarterback the defense, which is what our center does. They have to move people around, and call out switches and picks.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Nope. He’s not a 5, either, at least not on defense. He’s surprisingly ineffective as a rim protector for someone who is 6’10” with a 38” vert, and I don’t believe he is aware enough to quarterback the defense, which is what our center does. They have to move people around, and call out switches and picks.

I wasn't serious. I was commenting on how this organization likes playing undersized. He's not a banger at all.

I'd have him on the perimeter at all times. The Spurs, however, like undersized ball.

[Dejounte]

This guy is legit

[mo7888]

This guy is legit

He's definitely a keeper... I like what I saw from Lyles as well tonight... I feel good enough about those two that I wouldn't offer max money to Collins.

[Dejounte]

He's definitely a keeper... I like what I saw from Lyles as well tonight... I feel good enough about those two that I wouldn't offer max money to Collins.

Lyles and Samanic are too identical. It isn't physical enough, IMO.

[FkLA]

Hes always been a combo forward. Not sure why this is even a discussion.

[mo7888]

Lyles and Samanic are too identical. It isn't physical enough, IMO.

He (lyles) was focused and gave effort tonight...when he does that he's a solid backup... I don't like them sharing the court very much but, I think they can play most of the minutes at 4 with Keldon getting most of his at the 3 and playing some 4 in small ball lineups... (my thoughts are based on next year's team).

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365855551930925058?s=20

His defense is worlds better than last season. He also showed a lot of effort crashing the boards, making fast decisions on offense. Just needs more minutes to kinda find his role, but I've always been positive about him putting it together. He just needs more time to develop. I'm waiting to see him unleash his offensive game. His spin moves are elite, just has to learn how to use them against NBA competition

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365855551930925058?s=20

His defense is worlds better than last season. He also showed a lot of effort crashing the boards, making fast decisions on offense. Just needs more minutes to kinda find his role, but I've always been positive about him putting it together. He just needs more time to develop

He's showing Keldon-like production (from the bubble). Minutes will be there for him next season. Watch Pop surprise us and start him like he did with Keldon.

[Dejounte]

We haven't even unlocked his offense yet, which is what's supposed to be his greatest strength. What a pick at #19.

[RC_Drunkford]

He's showing Keldon-like production (from the bubble). Minutes will be there for him next season. Watch Pop surprise us and start him like he did with Keldon.

Depends on the roster tbh, but I'm pretty confident that he'll at least replace Rudy as the 4 off the bench

[RC_Drunkford]

We haven't even unlocked his offense yet, which is what's supposed to be his greatest strength. What a pick at #19.

For a player of his age, his offensive game is very polished. Footwork, post moves, jump shots and can finish with both hands.

[Mr. Body]

His horizontal athleticism for his size is really good.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pauj0T1uqU&t=254s

watch that move at 1:42

the rip through, jab step, drive into the spin move with the outstretched lay up. Not a lot of bigs can do these type of things. He's a match up nightmare. Put a big on him and he will drive past him. Put a small guy on him and he can post him up.

[Uriel]

So excited about Samanic! He has the highest ceiling among our young players. It’s too early to say whether he’ll reach it, but things are certainly looking up right now.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvSOGOpXMAo4xws?format=jpg&name=large

[BillMc]

I missed the game. Luka was 0-4 but no one is complaining, so I assume his defense and shot selection more than made up for it?

[spurs1990]

I missed the game. Luka was 0-4 but no one is complaining, so I assume his defense and shot selection more than made up for it?

He missed a 3 and a baseline tough layup, and the other two misses were a misfire putback jam and another tip-in miss. His 2nd half stint he touched the ball zero times on offense aside from an inbound pass and the tip-in-miss. As someone said in the GT it wasn't intentional but it was really odd.

[BillMc]

He missed a 3 and a baseline tough layup, and the other two misses were a misfire putback jam and another tip-in miss. His 2nd half stint he touched the ball zero times on offense aside from an inbound pass and the tip-in-miss. As someone said in the GT it wasn't intentional but tt was really odd.

Thanks Bro for the update!

[Truth4sale$]

Samanic has shown great improvement. He forced Zion into a turnover. He does not have to be defensive player of the year, he just has to be good. Lyles, was playing well, so Popovich stayed with him.
,It is hard to show what he can do offensively, when the team has FIBA Patty chucking shots at will.

[Blackhaus]

I missed the game. Luka was 0-4 but no one is complaining, so I assume his defense and shot selection more than made up for it?

Luka looked the best he’s ever looked on the court as far as belonging in the big boys NBA. His defensive awareness and rebounding were great and if he had finished that put back dunk.....oh my.

[BillMc]

Luka looked the best he’s ever looked on the court as far as belonging in the big boys NBA. His defensive awareness and rebounding were great and if he had finished that put back dunk.....oh my.

Cheers man! Thanks for the update.

[NASpurs]

He's showing Keldon-like production (from the bubble). Minutes will be there for him next season. Watch Pop surprise us and start him like he did with Keldon.

I just don’t see it. Murray, White, DeRozan (if he’s back), Johnson and Poeltl seems like a lock.

[Dejounte]

I just don’t see it. Murray, White, DeRozan (if he’s back), Johnson and Poeltl seems like a lock.

All hinges on if DeMar is back, I guess.

[tim_duncan_fan]

His horizontal athleticism for his size is really good.

This is the why he may not need to go back to Austin. He gave Brandon Ingram problems.

He may get to play consistently based on his defense.

[rankingtear]

If Samanic is a 3/4 that makes him an exponentially better prospect.

[Blackhaus]

If Samanic is a 3/4 that makes him an exponentially better prospect.

yeah I agree. He showed good defensive quickness last night that I’ve not really seen from him yet. His lateral movements were night and day better from what we seen in the past. If he can do that his poisition can def flex between a 3 and 4. He seemed really engaged last night and it seemed like Pop was really coaching him between plays and the back and forth seemed really positive. Def gives me hope he can turn into something special.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365857501099491328?s=19

[BillMc]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365857501099491328?s=19
:bobo

THis same guy has an article on Luka as a defender.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/spurs-samanic-is-showing-an-improved-commitment-to-defense

[exstatic]

Luka has had the tools from day one. It was always a question of motor and effort. Even if he busts out, I still like the pick. At #19, it’s ok to swing for the fences.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365857501099491328?s=19

Didn't catch the game last night, but Luka must've played really well for there to be such a strong consensus. This defensive play is downright amazing.

Luka reads the play beforehand perfectly. Before Zion is even thinking of passing it, Luka checks that there's a shooter in the corner; then when Zion drives and dishes to the wing, Luka doesn't even look at the outgoing pass, and makes a (surprisingly agile) quick rotation to defend the corner, getting to put a hand on Ingram almost before he catches the ball. Then Luka plays some solid lateral defense to prevent a drive from Ingram, without fouling, and seamlessly switches onto Ball after, getting all over him and forcing a pass.

There was no better way to have played that possession, defensively. If Vassell was there instead of Patty, it would've probably been a turnover for the Pels at the end of it. If Luka can bring this defensive intensity every night, he completes an absolutely imposing defensive lineup of Murray-White-Vassell-Samanic-Poeltl. Or, against bigger opponents, have Keldon run the versatile 3-4 with Luka, since he's also great defending against bigger sizes, and smother opponents.

It's crazy the progress he's made from looking like a deer in the headlights his first Austin stint.

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1365857501099491328?s=19
Outstanding. That's the stuff that gives Pop a chubby.

[Dejounte]

Outstanding. That's the stuff that gives Pop a chubby.

Thank you for giving me that fucked up image in my head

[tonight...you]

Thank you for giving me that fucked up image in my head
:lol

Sorry 'bout that collateral damage.

[BackHome]

As that quote from one poster says " A lot of Stupid Posters on this Forum" I mean some people where calling a project a bust when he had hardly gotten any playing at all his FIRST year. I don't think they understand the definition of "PROJECT" any way they can go find a safe place and eat their Crow in the corner like a good little boy. Our man LUKA is for real!!!!!

[Sugus]

As that quote from one poster says " A lot of Stupid Posters on this Forum" I mean some people where calling a project a bust when he had hardly gotten any playing at all his FIRST year. I don't think they understand the definition of "PROJECT" any way they can go find a safe place and eat their Crow in the corner like a good little boy. Our man LUKA is for real!!!!!

That's gotta be me, and ironically, the quote is being proven right once again with most of ST trolls discarding Luka after only one season. Same thing they did with Dejounte "Certified Scrub" "Instagram Baller" Murray, and now are eating crow as well with DJ's incredible and consistent play. Not to mention those who considered this Spurs team an outright lottery team from the jump, only for them to now be closer to a 4th seed than an 8th, with half the roster out and easy games postponed. Lastly, shoutout as well to the trolls claiming the Spurs would never drop Forbes, and you were delusional for thinking he might be gone.

By far, the most satisfactory thing about this Spurs season has been SpursTalk's shit takes on young players getting shat all over. I'm enjoying the ride, tbh

[TD 21]

He's not a combo forward, but because of his body type and skillset, he'll be better off defending the three in certain instances. Last night was a prime example, as he's obviously closer to an Ingram defender than he is a Williamson one.

It's nice that he's playing harder and has gotten stronger, but unless he becomes a legit threat from 3 and tightens up his game, his athleticism and ball skills won't manifest themselves into an efficient enough player to become a rotation player.

[exstatic]

He's not a combo forward, but because of his body type and skillset, he'll be better off defending the three in certain instances. Last night was a prime example, as he's obviously closer to an Ingram defender than he is a Williamson one.

It's nice that he's playing harder and has gotten stronger, but unless he becomes a legit threat from 3 and tightens up his game, his athleticism and ball skills won't manifest themselves into an efficient enough player to become a rotation player.

Zion is not anything close to being an average 4. Luka, in most cases, would be better defending today’s 4s.

[TD 21]

Zion is not anything close to being an average 4. Luka, in most cases, would be better defending today’s 4s.


He's not a combo forward, but because of his body type and skillset, he'll be better off defending the three in certain instances. Last night was a prime example, as he's obviously closer to an Ingram defender than he is a Williamson one.

It's nice that he's playing harder and has gotten stronger, but unless he becomes a legit threat from 3 and tightens up his game, his athleticism and ball skills won't manifest themselves into an efficient enough player to become a rotation player.

[duncan2150]

Didn't catch the game last night, but Luka must've played really well for there to be such a strong consensus. This defensive play is downright amazing.



Imo people are generous with him, but it's the first time for me that he is looking like an nba player. He is understanding his role and he looks more focused.

[B1gduff]

I've really glad to see how good luka has looked defensivily! and I'm loving!

I believe opponents guarded by luka are shooting 22%.

One of the biggest surpise, has been how good he is getting thru screen and getting to his guy.

Personally I see him being a mobile 4, but, with what he shown i can see him being a 3/4 with a the ability to guard a few2s-4s.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pauj0T1uqU&t=254s

watch that move at 1:42

the rip through, jab step, drive into the spin move with the outstretched lay up. Not a lot of bigs can do these type of things. He's a match up nightmare. Put a big on him and he will drive past him. Put a small guy on him and he can post him up.

Nice!

[ceperez]

Get Manu to personally coach him!

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Pretty cool to see all the Luka Samanic love.

LMAO

[tonight...you]

Pretty cool to see all the Luka Samanic love.

LMAO
It is cool. Hopefully he keeps building every game.

[John B]

Nice!
He got the Tony spin cycle :lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

Murray
White
Keldon
Tall Luka
Poetl

Defensive lineup with good potential on offense.

If Luka turns out as a decent player, we are suddenly long as fuck.

[EricB]

The tools have been there. You heard this when RC drafted him and they spoke about it.
if RC Buford is excited about a young kid, you get him.

he’s still raw, he pretty much deserves to be the permanent backup 4 but won’t be.
his defense now is damn good, the perimeter defense is terrific.

give the kid minutes, let him develop. 2019 and 2020’s drafts are going to end up being aces.

[Mr. Body]

Harden figured out he could body Luka on drives, but Samanic was staying in front of him fairly well. Certainly better than Lyles, who was hopeless. Samanic is much faster than I expected and his length really helps in the half-court. Give him more time.

[stephen jackson]

I wonder what clicked for him he went from lacking enthusiasm early in the season to having some dog in him very odd

[John B]

I wonder what clicked for him he went from lacking enthusiasm early in the season to having some dog in him very odd
Smaller and less skilled, but bigger heart 29th pick Keldon playing the starting PF should spell it for him. Luka impressed me as feeling entitled because of his godgiven skills, but finding himself still in the GLeague in his 2nd year should have lit up his behind. He was going fast the Trey Lyles way if he doesn’t fix it fast. I’m glad he is responding positive and taking it as a challenge to earn his minutes. I hope Pop gives him some burn in both the SF/PF position. I know Vassell needs minutes as well. At this time, Luka making the leap could send this team to contender category, and that’s no stretch

[John B]

The Keldon at 29th was a steal, but Luka at 19 is starting to look pretty solid now :lol:lol

[BillMc]

I wonder what clicked for him he went from lacking enthusiasm early in the season to having some dog in him very odd

He may have just grown up a bit. He's always been a project. Probably just depressed he wasn't playing. It's also likely that all us armchair psychoanalysts exagerrated everything (myself included). Normal for ST.

[Gagnrath]

He may have just grown up a bit. He's always been a project. Probably just depressed he wasn't playing. It's also likely that all us armchair psychoanalysts exagerrated everything (myself included). Normal for ST.

We also have a tendency to forget how big of a leap it can be between everything before the nba and the nba. Yeah Some euroleague teams are way closer than they used to be but there is still a gap especially on the night in night out level plus some style/rules differences, add in a real young guy with culture differences and the whole Covid no clue what the world was doing and you have a recipe for a guy looking like like he's scared of everything.

[BillMc]

We also have a tendency to forget how big of a leap it can be between everything before the nba and the nba. Yeah Some euroleague teams are way closer than they used to be but there is still a gap especially on the night in night out level plus some style/rules differences, add in a real young guy with culture differences and the whole Covid no clue what the world was doing and you have a recipe for a guy looking like like he's scared of everything.

True. Well said!

[RobinsontoDuncan]

He may have just grown up a bit. He's always been a project. Probably just depressed he wasn't playing. It's also likely that all us armchair psychoanalysts exagerrated everything (myself included). Normal for ST.

Why yes, it’s almost like a bunch of hyper critical posters on these boards and Spurs Twitter have spent the past two years repeating racist stereotypes about European players and projecting all manner of things on a shy kid between the ages of 19 and 21 that’s in the middle of adjusting to a new culture and new way of playing basketball thousands of miles away from all of his friends and family.

It also appears that a bunch of not very smart basketball analysts on these forms assume that Luka not knowing where to be or what to do on help defense as he makes this adjustment meant he had “motor” issues or was lazy and non-competitive because they didn’t watch him play, and couldn’t figure out that a guy who’s generally good on ball defensively but routinely out of position on help defense is just slow to react because he’s developing a feel for the North American game.

It’s now even more likely that these same really annoying people will go on proclaiming Luka is an asshole later on in his career should he chose to not re-sign with the Spurs once he’s a free agent after they spent his first few years in the league dumping all over him.

Stay classy SpursTalk.

[rankingtear]

Can't discount the Gubble stint, he is overpowering guys there. Used to get bumped off spots often last year which prevented him from playing his game. Confidence boost from that is huge since that was his weakness coming in.

[Dejounte]

Can't discount the Gubble stint, he is overpowering guys there. Used to get bumped off spots often last year which prevented him from playing his game. Confidence boost from that is huge since that was his weakness coming in.

There was a play where Luka fell down guarding someone. Not sure what happened there, but Pop went over to his assistants right after and and was confused as well. I'm glad Pop is coaching him up after every play. Not sure I saw that in the limited minutes Metu would play in the NBA.

[EricB]

There was a play where Luka fell down guarding someone. Not sure what happened there, but Pop went over to his assistants right after and and was confused as well. I'm glad Pop is coaching him up after every play. Not sure I saw that in the limited minutes Metu would play in the NBA.


there was also the stint where he missed an assignment, there was a foul, he immediately went to Pop got his ass chewed off and ran back, he knew the mistake but pop still yelled.

pop sees the talent, when he gives a shit to yell is when you know they’re worth it. It’s when he’s laissez faire with a guy that he’s not long.

[John B]

there was also the stint where he missed an assignment, there was a foul, he immediately went to Pop got his ass chewed off and ran back, he knew the mistake but pop still yelled.

pop sees the talent, when he gives a shit to yell is when you know they’re worth it. It’s when he’s laissez faire with a guy that he’s not long.

I think it was the reach in foul on Harden. Pop is a big NO to reaching in to players like Harden who will get that call every time. Luka’s hand got caught in a cookie jar and Pop had to remind him on that

[EricB]

I think it was the reach in foul on Harden. Pop is a big NO to reaching in to players like Harden who will get that call every time. Luka’s hand got caught in a cookie jar and Pop had to remind him on that


thays exactly what it was and Elliott pretty much said as much as he was running back. Thanks.

[rjv]

Why yes, it’s almost like a bunch of hyper critical posters on these boards and Spurs Twitter have spent the past two years repeating racist stereotypes about European players and projecting all manner of things on a shy kid between the ages of 19 and 21 that’s in the middle of adjusting to a new culture and new way of playing basketball thousands of miles away from all of his friends and family.

It also appears that a bunch of not very smart basketball analysts on these forms assume that Luka not knowing where to be or what to do on help defense as he makes this adjustment meant he had “motor” issues or was lazy and non-competitive because they didn’t watch him play, and couldn’t figure out that a guy who’s generally good on ball defensively but routinely out of position on help defense is just slow to react because he’s developing a feel for the North American game.

It’s now even more likely that these same really annoying people will go on proclaiming Luka is an asshole later on in his career should he chose to not re-sign with the Spurs once he’s a free agent after they spent his first few years in the league dumping all over him.

Stay classy SpursTalk.


spot on!

[JuneJive]

He's following the same path almost every Spurs draft pick take.

His feel for the game will come along. Slowly, but surely.

[exstatic]

Why yes, it’s almost like a bunch of hyper critical posters on these boards and Spurs Twitter have spent the past two years repeating racist stereotypes about European players and projecting all manner of things on a shy kid between the ages of 19 and 21 that’s in the middle of adjusting to a new culture and new way of playing basketball thousands of miles away from all of his friends and family.

It also appears that a bunch of not very smart basketball analysts on these forms assume that Luka not knowing where to be or what to do on help defense as he makes this adjustment meant he had “motor” issues or was lazy and non-competitive because they didn’t watch him play, and couldn’t figure out that a guy who’s generally good on ball defensively but routinely out of position on help defense is just slow to react because he’s developing a feel for the North American game.

It’s now even more likely that these same really annoying people will go on proclaiming Luka is an asshole later on in his career should he chose to not re-sign with the Spurs once he’s a free agent after they spent his first few years in the league dumping all over him.

Stay classy SpursTalk.

I watch Austin Spurs games, and he was literally walking back on defense last year, when he missed a bunny, or didn’t get a call. Not all of the criticism is unwarranted. It’s also not like he didn’t show up here with attitude and motor questions. They kinda followed him from Europe.

I’ve been a proponent of the pick since draft day, but I’ve seen too many talented players bust out to say he’s going to make it, even now. He’s always had a complete physical and skill tool set, and it was always going to come down to attitude and effort on a consistent basis.

[The Truth #6]

I watch Austin Spurs games, and he was literally walking back on defense last year, when he missed a bunny, or didn’t get a call. Not all of the criticism is unwarranted. It’s also not like he didn’t show up here with attitude and motor questions. They kinda followed him from Europe.

I’ve been a proponent of the pick since draft day, but I’ve seen too many talented players bust out to say he’s going to make it, even now. He’s always had a complete physical and skill tool set, and it was always going to come down to attitude and effort on a consistent basis.

Exactly. There’s a middle ground. It’s not all heroes and zeros.

[Dejounte]

Why yes, it’s almost like a bunch of hyper critical posters on these boards and Spurs Twitter have spent the past two years repeating racist stereotypes about European players and projecting all manner of things on a shy kid between the ages of 19 and 21 that’s in the middle of adjusting to a new culture and new way of playing basketball thousands of miles away from all of his friends and family.

It also appears that a bunch of not very smart basketball analysts on these forms assume that Luka not knowing where to be or what to do on help defense as he makes this adjustment meant he had “motor” issues or was lazy and non-competitive because they didn’t watch him play, and couldn’t figure out that a guy who’s generally good on ball defensively but routinely out of position on help defense is just slow to react because he’s developing a feel for the North American game.

It’s now even more likely that these same really annoying people will go on proclaiming Luka is an asshole later on in his career should he chose to not re-sign with the Spurs once he’s a free agent after they spent his first few years in the league dumping all over him.

Stay classy SpursTalk.


I watch Austin Spurs games, and he was literally walking back on defense last year, when he missed a bunny, or didn’t get a call. Not all of the criticism is unwarranted. It’s also not like he didn’t show up here with attitude and motor questions. They kinda followed him from Europe.

I’ve been a proponent of the pick since draft day, but I’ve seen too many talented players bust out to say he’s going to make it, even now. He’s always had a complete physical and skill tool set, and it was always going to come down to attitude and effort on a consistent basis.


Exactly. There’s a middle ground. It’s not all heroes and zeros.

Yeah, Samanic's recent play doesn't invalidate observations made during his prior stints.

If you're going criticize people giving their thoughts about a player because you can't accept what they have to say, my opinion is that you should give your own observations too instead of throwing mud from the sidelines.

This is only in reference to people who are actually watching Samanic play and want to give their own observations about a player. No one's pretending to be an expert. And I also believe if you're too lazy to watch a player yourself, then you'll tend to go by hearsay or worse-- twitter analysis by crazed fans.

[poopbox]

Luka hasn't embarrassed himself and all of a sudden spurstalk is back on his nuts cause he getting minutes over our 3rd string center and marcus morris signing fiasco cast off :rollin

I have been critical and rooting for the kid but I'm going to keep the front of my pants jizz free for now everytime he makes a good basketball play...he is the number 19 pick after all and is pretty much a year behind where all our other number 1 picks over the last 4 years were in their second year

[ace3g]

Look who is headlining the marquee for tonight's game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evgr5u3WQAs4AZe?format=jpg&name=large

[GAustex]

Dude needs to hit them roids like bronbron

[ulosturedge]

Looks like they figured out he matches up better against smaller players. I'm shocked he is able to stay in front of these guard/forwards. Good to see because against power forwards and stronger players he was getting manhandled.

[Dejounte]

Looks like they figured out he matches up better against smaller players. I'm shocked he is able to stay in front of these guard/forwards. Good to see because against power forwards and stronger players he was getting manhandled.

Wasnt getting manhandled by Julius Randle.

[Rocalcio]

Refs being thought on Luka’s turnovers.

[cjw]

Wasnt getting manhandled by Julius Randle.

He’s D-ing him up as well as you can

[Rocalcio]

Randle’s percentages are really bad so I guess whoever’s defending him is doing a great job.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Yeah, Samanic's recent play doesn't invalidate observations made during his prior stints.

If you're going criticize people giving their thoughts about a player because you can't accept what they have to say, my opinion is that you should give your own observations too instead of throwing mud from the sidelines.

This is only in reference to people who are actually watching Samanic play and want to give their own observations about a player. No one's pretending to be an expert. And I also believe if you're too lazy to watch a player yourself, then you'll tend to go by hearsay or worse-- twitter analysis by crazed fans.

I’ve weighed in on Luka plenty. A few weeks ago I said I am confident he will be a more valuable player than Brandon Clarke is now in 2 years when Luka is 23.

And y’all just don’t know what you’re watching apparently. Luka was horrible at help defense, but you can’t point to many plays, last year included, where he was bad at man defense. If you don’t watch or know anything about the European game you wouldn’t understand.

And none of this excuses all of the Euro trash, soft Euro stiff posting by trashy, Trump supporting racist spurstalk posters like Dejounte, who is the biggest front running ass on this board.

[Dejounte]

I’ve weighed in on Luka plenty. A few weeks ago I said I am confident he will be a more valuable player than Brandon Clarke is now in 2 years when Luka is 23.

And y’all just don’t know what you’re watching apparently. Luka was horrible at help defense, but you can’t point to many plays, last year included, where he was bad at man defense. If you don’t watch or know anything about the European game you wouldn’t understand.

And none of this excuses all of the Euro trash, soft Euro stiff posting by trashy, Trump supporting racist spurstalk posters like Dejounte, who is the biggest front running ass on this board.

Who the fuck said I support Trump? I criticize all players and for you to take that as some sort of racism is ridiculous. If you think I'm front running, let's meet up and we'll see. Talk tough online, and don't be a pussy in real life.

[ace3g]

I wonder what happened during the last stint of the "gubble" that caused the light bulb to go off | game slowed down for Luka?

I am glad it happened but usually these eureka moments happen during the offseason.

[Dejounte]

Little bitch boy RobinsontoDuncan wants to be sensitive and get personal when a player he likes gets criticized. Poor wittle boy

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Who the fuck said I support Trump? I criticize all players and for you to take that as some sort of racism is ridiculous. If you think I'm front running, let's meet up and we'll see. Talk tough online, and don't be a pussy in real life.

Yeah, sounds about right. I point out you’re an ass, you want to get into a fight.

[Dejounte]

Yeah, sounds about right. I point out you’re an ass, you want to get into a fight.

You started this shit, you can't end it. Keep being a pussy.

[GAustex]

Last night I said Luka needs to become now a serious offensive threat. Good to see he is listening to me.
He needs to get his happy feet worked out and he will be throwing shit down soon enough.

[onechance87]

At this point foward..Luka should be getting 20 mins plus a game...Dude is showing he needs playing time to grow and blossom..Will be a crime if he dont get it...He is our future

[r0drig0lac]

Who the fuck said I support Trump? I criticize all players and for you to take that as some sort of racism is ridiculous. If you think I'm front running, let's meet up and we'll see. Talk tough online, and don't be a pussy in real life.

cmom bro

[emanueldavidginobili]

14 points 7 rebounds three 3PM 1 block 1 steal and game high again +26.

[onechance87]

14 points 7 rebounds three 3PM 1 block 1 steal and game high again +26.

Its his defence that was most impressive

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1366960312579207170?s=19

[spurraider21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evho3xjVgAIvLiN?format=jpg&name=small

[spurs1990]

What's unfortunate is there is no minutes with a healthy roster where both Samanic and Vassell play. And that's assuming Lyles is a straight DNP:

PG - Murray, Mills 48 min
SG - White, Walker 48 min
SF - Derozan, ??? Vassell, Samanic, Lyles?
PF - Johnson, Gay 48 min
C - Poetle, Aldridge 48 min

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1366959615464865792?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1366964156222607360?s=19

[John B]

I notice though that Patty is not looking for him. I hope it’s nothing.

[Dejounte]

I notice though that Patty is not looking for him. I hope it’s nothing.

Patty is looking for nobody but himself and his next contract

[Sugus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evho3xjVgAIvLiN?format=jpg&name=small

Did you make this yourself? High quality content, tbh :bobo

[John B]

What's unfortunate is there is no minutes with a healthy roster where both Samanic and Vassell play. And that's assuming Lyles is a straight DNP:

PG - Murray, Mills 48 min
SG - White, Walker 48 min
SF - Derozan, ??? Vassell, Samanic, Lyles?
PF - Johnson, Gay 48 min
C - Poetle, Aldridge 48 min

48 games in 60 days. They will get their minutes :lol:lol:lol The good thing is our young are so versatile. Did you see that last group? Tre with 4 6’8 and taller :lol:lol:lol

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1366964479146262528?s=19

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1366965028931461121?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1366965940269834240?s=19

[John B]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1366964479146262528?s=19

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1366965028931461121?s=19
Great attitude. And he can do it too with his lateral quickness. Pop is training him quick on his feet

[couchman]

I'm so impressed with Luka's defense. I honestly never saw that coming.
He's suddenly a very exciting prospect for us now that we see what he can do on D. His offense will get there

[Mr. Body]

I never thought he was a bust, but I really thought he was a year or two away.

[Sugus]

I never thought he was a bust, but I really thought he was a year or two away.

I don't think even the most rabid Luka fan (does such a thing even exist yet?) would've predicted his jump in play before the season started. My guy just became a solid rotation player overnight or something, crazy to see unfold before our eyes

[John B]

All of a sudden Spurs are long with Luka and Diop! They can cover the ground quick, and with Vassell coming.. geez. Our 2nd unit could be Tre, Lonnie, Vassell, Diop and Luka. Run it!

[spurraider21]

Did you make this yourself? High quality content, tbh :bobo
Nah. Pulled it off twitter

[NASpurs]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evho3xjVgAIvLiN?format=jpg&name=small

I’ll admit that I said he had one foot out of the league. :lol I have to sign this.

[ragas]

So, let‘s talk about drafting Luka instead of Brandon Clarke.:flag:

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsSW/status/1366969145745694720?s=19

[The Truth #6]

I don't think even the most rabid Luka fan (does such a thing even exist yet?) would've predicted his jump in play before the season started. My guy just became a solid rotation player overnight or something, crazy to see unfold before our eyes

I know he’s an NBA player but I wonder if he just got laid. Dude is transformed!

[The Truth #6]

Here comes everyone out of the cracks in the floorboards now acting like they were Luka true believers from the get go. He’s hustling his ass off. A massive switch was flipped. Big picture—great for Luka and the team. But this thread will likely get ridiculous.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's crazy that he makes us better already. That's just with his defense. Any hit shots will be gravy. This is wild.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://www.nba.com/spurs/sites/spurs/files/lukasign1-3.jpg?w=756&h=504

https://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs-sign-2019-first-round-pick-luka-samanic

14-15 months on. The Progression is ridiculous. I feel very privileged to be a Spurs fan.

[The Truth #6]

It's crazy that he makes us better already. That's just with his defense. Any hit shots will be gravy. This is wild.

So true! His defense is suddenly game changing. Players can’t really get by him. Even smaller players. He’s contesting everything.

[BackHome]

Don’t worry the next game he does not do well the cockroaches will come out in droves

[Dejounte]

I love the Keldon + Luka relationship as well

How the fuck are we gonna keep everybody when contracts are up

[Seventyniner]

I never thought he was a bust, but I really thought he was a year or two away.

Same here. I also thought most of his value would be on offense. His defense has been a revelation.

Some people learn things in steps and show incremental, steady improvement. Others take bits and pieces here and there, showing little progress until the "aha!" moment when they put it all together. Player development falls on that spectrum too, and perhaps we are witnessing Luka's "aha!" unfold before our very eyes.

[NASpurs]

I love the Keldon + Luka relationship as well

How the fuck are we gonna keep everybody when contracts are up

No loyalty contracts to the old vets in the offseason would be a start.

[GAustex]

No loyalty contracts to the old vets in the offseason would be a start.

[poopbox]

Happy to see Luka play so well, but we all know the old man is going back to Aldridge and Gay after the all star break :cry

See you again at the start of the 21 - 22 season my Luka :cry

[Dejounte]

No loyalty contracts to the old vets in the offseason would be a start.

I wonder which young guy will be the first to earn a max contract...

Heat of the moment says Luka

Brain says Murray

Underdog is Keldon (depending on if he works on his shot and dribble this offseason)

[Seventyniner]

I love the Keldon + Luka relationship as well

How the fuck are we gonna keep everybody when contracts are up

imo Lonnie is one of the odd men out. I don't think the Spurs will want to pay him when it might jeopardize their ability to extend both Keldon and Luka. White is another potential "casualty", as in the Spurs might trade him in the last year of his contract or let him play it out and not seek to re-sign him. He will be 30 by then, and Murray will be up for his next contract at that point too.

Not being able to keep all of your young players is one hidden downside of having extra picks and drafting really well. Having Murray and Poeltl on very team-friendly contracts mitigates that somewhat.

[GAustex]

Happy to see Luka play so well, but we all know the old man is going back to Aldridge and Gay after the all star break :cry

See you again at the start of the 21 - 22 season my Luka :cry

Please no. Pop has to have seen the light-has he not..

[Dejounte]

imo Lonnie is one of the odd men out. I don't think the Spurs will want to pay him when it might jeopardize their ability to extend both Keldon and Luka. White is another potential "casualty", as in the Spurs might trade him in the last year of his contract or let him play it out and not seek to re-sign him. He will be 30 by then.

Not being able to keep all of your young players is one hidden downside of having extra picks and drafting really well.

Does re-signing White to another 17 mil contract hurt that much though? Unless he elevates his game to another level, I think his number will float around that figure for the duration of his career.

[tonight...you]

Who the fuck said I support Trump? I criticize all players and for you to take that as some sort of racism is ridiculous. If you think I'm front running, let's meet up and we'll see. Talk tough online, and don't be a pussy in real life.
That was weird.
Maybe that dude is tripping on some border shwag that was transported in a gasoline tank.

[NASpurs]

Happy to see Luka play so well, but we all know the old man is going back to Aldridge and Gay after the all star break :cry

See you again at the start of the 21 - 22 season my Luka :cry

I hear what you're saying but the Spurs are scheduled to play 40 games in like 68 days and Pop loves to rest his old farts.

[paperboy77]

I love the Keldon + Luka relationship as well

How the fuck are we gonna keep everybody when contracts are up

This, right here!

[Sugus]

imo Lonnie is one of the odd men out. I don't think the Spurs will want to pay him when it might jeopardize their ability to extend both Keldon and Luka. White is another potential "casualty", as in the Spurs might trade him in the last year of his contract or let him play it out and not seek to re-sign him. He will be 30 by then.

Not being able to keep all of your young players is one hidden downside of having extra picks and drafting really well.

Yeah, Lonnie hasn't been doing himself any favors so far this season, and we've had a lot more players than expected showing flashes that make you want to keep them. Another casualty I'm expecting, maybe the first of the bunch, is Weatherspoon. Just doesn't look like there's a place for him in SA, especially with Jones playing so well in the Gubble.

[Uriel]

If there’s one skill this front office remains elite at, it’s drafting. It’s starting to look like they’ve done it again.

[paperboy77]

So is Luka > Rudy? Include Rudy in a trade and see what happens.

[spurs1990]

We got the Big Five locked up multiple seasons:
White - 4 more years
Murray - 3 more yrs
Vassell - 3 more yrs
Samanic, Johnson 2 more yrs

That's your starting backcourt, small forward, and with luck power forward.

I suppose you could get away resigning DeRozan for 3 years and then pay up when the rookie contracts are up for extension.

[NASpurs]

So is Luka > Rudy? Include Rudy in a trade and see what happens.

Isn't Rudy loved by the organization? Good luck with that. :lol

[GAustex]

So is Luka > Rudy? Include Rudy in a trade and see what happens.
With the passage of time. Rudy is a straight up baller and we should hope that Luka one day can get close to what Rudy was capable of

[Dejounte]

We got the Big Five locked up multiple seasons:
White - 4 more years
Murray - 3 more yrs
Vassell - 3 more yrs
Samanic, Johnson 2 more yrs

That's your starting backcourt, small forward, and with luck power forward.

I suppose you could get away resigning DeRozan for 3 years and then pay up when the rookie contracts are up for extension.

Damn, I can see it now. Spurs are going to be media darlings soon and their drafting skills will be shown on an infographic showing how great they are.

[tonight...you]

I never thought he was a bust, but I really thought he was a year or two away.
Him becoming a revelation on D... who could have seen that?
I hope it's something that becomes permanent.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/SamanicLuka/status/1366975061832458241?s=19

[Dejounte]

I should probably add...

It's not just the Spurs' drafting skills, but also their player development too. They simply don't get enough credit...

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1366977533766488064?s=19

[tim_duncan_fan]

I get the sense he's one of Pop's guys, thank goodness.

DJ, White, Keldon, Vassell, Tall Luka lineup will be fun.

[exstatic]

So, let‘s talk about drafting Luka instead of Brandon Clarke.:flag:

It’ll be two more drafts before Luka is the age that Clarke was when they were both drafted.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/olkV3UAh2uM

[spurs1990]

I get the sense he's one of Pop's guys, thank goodness.

DJ, White, Keldon, Vassell, Tall Luka lineup will be fun.

Scoring at home, that's the 29th pick, 29th pick, 29th pick, 11th pick, and 19th pick in 4 of 5 drafts that would comprise a starting lineup.

Still rooting for Lonnie Walker to be a buckets-giving 6th man to close out the five year draft run.

[rankingtear]

Luka is a beast. He is the best draft pick since Kawhi. Dude is barely 20 and is already putting up 29, 9, and 9. He's a future MVP... oh wait. You mean our Luka? He's a scrubbier version of Bonner.

This explains why Luka is balling. KobeAchilles strikes again, told you you should start calling Lonnie a scrub, stop defending him if you want him to be good.

[Gagnrath]

Isn't Rudy loved by the organization? Good luck with that. :lol

Rudy is liked but Rudy knows that he is older with injuries, he is getting ready for his transition into coaching final contract where he is the end of the bench guy who knows what to do but is body can't do it for more than about 10 minutes in about 50 games. Rudy is actually fairly smart from listening to interviews and stuff.

[PhantomDashCam]

Turns out Belushi was ahead of the game.

"Luka!" "Luka!"

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-15-2017/yYELPu.gif

[kht]

Spurs young core is overrated... we have some niece pieces, some hustle guys, some likeable players. But no one in the universe of a Morant, Luka, or Zion.

[Mugen]

RC following him all around Europe like some teenage groupie makes sense now...I will never doubt that man's drafting prowess ever again tbh :lol

[rankingtear]

Spurs young core is overrated... we have some niece pieces, some hustle guys, some likeable players. But no one in the universe of a Morant, Luka, or Zion.

Thanks captain obvious.

[tbdog]

Spurs young core is overrated... we have some niece pieces, some hustle guys, some likeable players. But no one in the universe of a Morant, Luka, or Zion.

Pick 1-2-3. Well, no shit.

[kht]

Pick 1-2-3. Well, no shit.

Doesn't change the fact that our "touted" youth movement/core is overrated. Did the Spurs overachieve with their hand? Yes.

[Thomas82]

Spurs young core is overrated... we have some niece pieces, some hustle guys, some likeable players. But no one in the universe of a Morant, Luka, or Zion.

As long as Pop is still around, I don't expect us to be drafting high enough to get that kind of talent. Until he's gone, expect to be picking somewhere between 11-20.

[Kurik]

We got the Big Five locked up multiple seasons:
White - 4 more years
Murray - 3 more yrs
Vassell - 3 more yrs
Samanic, Johnson 2 more yrs

That's your starting backcourt, small forward, and with luck power forward.

I suppose you could get away resigning DeRozan for 3 years and then pay up when the rookie contracts are up for extension.

Let’s not forget we have Poeltl locked up for two more years which should hopefully be his prime.

[rankingtear]

Doesn't change the fact that our "touted" youth movement/core is overrated. Did the Spurs overachieve with their hand? Yes.

Fans overrate their young players all the time you silly goose.

[tbdog]

Doesn't change the fact that our "touted" youth movement/core is overrated. Did the Spurs overachieve with their hand? Yes.

Well depends what you think the Spurs fanbase think they will be? No one considers them to be nearly as good as Morant, Luka or Zion.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lmao @ people wanting Brandon Clarke over this guy

[RC_Drunkford]

His defensive positioning is shitty, he needs to work on that. It's all learning where to be on defense and footwork. That should be easy for him to pick up and comes with experience. If he can defend and knock down open shot he's ready to contribute. The kid got potential


By now most of y'all should know to never doubt a Balkan player. They are different type of athletes and have a huge sports culture. He will develop into a good player, I don't have any doubts. He's just too young at the moment

:wakeup

Also for everybody being surprised how he bulked up so fast. He bulked up before the draft, after the draft and after that as well. Luka got to work ASAP

[John B]

:wakeup

Also for everybody being surprised how he bulked up so fast. He bulked up before the draft, after the draft and after that as well. Luka got to work ASAP
I don’t think Luka should bulk up anymore, and potentially slow down his lateral quickness. Luka can cover 1-5 :lol:lol:lol

But seriously, the way Spurs switches on everyone last night and not miss a beat was great. Much like the Knicks who are 2nd best defensive team. The Knicks had 6’5 and taller lineup last night and everyone mobile. Coach T finally has that team going in the right direction.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t think Luka should bulk up anymore, and potentially slow down his lateral quickness. Luka can cover 1-5 :lol:lol:lol

But seriously, the way Spurs switches on everyone last night and not miss a beat was great. Much like the Knicks who are 2nd best defensive team. The Knicks had 6’5 and taller lineup last night and everyone mobile. Coach T finally has that team going in the right direction.

I agree, I‘m just saying he started bulking up even before the draft and basically did that for almost 2 years.

[KingKev]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evho3xjVgAIvLiN?format=jpg&name=small

If he keeps this up i will gladly sign this and eat
my crow.

[poopbox]

Spurs young core is overrated... we have some niece pieces, some hustle guys, some likeable players. But no one in the universe of a Morant, Luka, or Zion.

All teams we have a better record than tbh

[The Truth #6]

Imagining this defensive lineup:

DJ
White
Vassell
Luka
Yak

Yikes.

[Dejounte]

As long as Pop is still around, I don't expect us to be drafting high enough to get that kind of talent. Until he's gone, expect to be picking somewhere between 11-20.

Zion and Morant ain't shit. You will all look foolish for being infatuated with top 10 picks that you can't see what's right in front of you.

[exstatic]

Zion and Morant ain't shit. You will all look foolish for being infatuated with top 10 picks that you can't see what's right in front of you.

Morant is the goods, but Zion is both overrated, and a major health risk at his current weight. Some guys need to bulk up when they get to the league. He needs to bulk down, like 20-30 lbs, or he won’t last past his second contract. I’d call him fat.

[The Truth #6]

Morant is the goods, but Zion is both overrated, and a major health risk at his current weight. Some guys need to bulk up when they get to the league. He needs to bulk down, like 20-30 lbs, or he won’t last past his second contract. I’d call him fat.

Luckily, New Orleans is known for its lean, healthy cuisine. Yeah, he looked off when we played them. Ja looks spectacular when he plays us.

[Dejounte]

Morant is the goods, but Zion is both overrated, and a major health risk at his current weight. Some guys need to bulk up when they get to the league. He needs to bulk down, like 20-30 lbs, or he won’t last past his second contract. I’d call him fat.


Luckily, New Orleans is known for its lean, healthy cuisine. Yeah, he looked off when we played them. Ja looks spectacular when he plays us.

No doubt Ja looks good but it reminds me of a certain time when there were tons of PGs who came and went and a certain point guard drafted in 2001 as the 28th overall pick established himself as a winning point guard above the rest. Bring up Timmy D if you will but no one can argue the fact that in a re-draft, Tony Parker would be selected top 10. So to me, these fools obsessed with top 10 picks are blind and will never recognize when there's a new TP or Manu in town who is leading the way.

[Dejounte]

Baron Davis
Gilbert Arenas
Derrick Rose
Steve Francis
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mike Bibby
Stephon Marbury
Deron Williams
Gary Payton

Were all "Ja Morants" at one point.

[BillMc]

I don’t think Luka should bulk up anymore, and potentially slow down his lateral quickness. Luka can cover 1-5 :lol:lol:lol
.

This. He shouldn't get much more bulk than aging willl naturally give him. Not sure he can cover a quick 1, but a slow 2, and a 3-4, and a non hulking 5. Embid or Kat would probably just back him down.

[The Truth #6]

Baron Davis
Gilbert Arenas
Derrick Rose
Steve Francis
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mike Bibby
Stephon Marbury
Deron Williams
Gary Payton

Were all "Ja Morants" at one point.

But there are at least 3 HOF players in that list. Spurs greats are underrated I think is your point, which I agree with.

[KingKev]

Baron Davis
Gilbert Arenas
Derrick Rose
Steve Francis
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mike Bibby
Stephon Marbury
Deron Williams
Gary Payton

Were all "Ja Morants" at one point.

That’s a pretty darn good list homie.

[mo7888]

But there are at least 3 HOF players in that list. Spurs greats are underrated I think is your point, which I agree with.

How many titles between them?

[Dejounte]

But there are at least 3 HOF players in that list. Spurs greats are underrated I think is your point, which I agree with.

Yeah, my point is you don't need to wait for a top 10 pick to have a franchise player like some are begging for.

Also if we look at NBA history, it's typically two-way bigs who lead their teams deep into the playoffs. Luka now looks like he's projecting into that. I don't ever see Zion as being some shut down big, he'll never be mobile enough laterally and he can't grow inches in height to be an interior presence.

[Dejounte]

That’s a pretty darn good list homie.

No doubt a good list of players, but again, history shows us you can attain a point guard outside of the top 10 who can become a franchise/ HOF caliber player and will become a key cog in winning titles.

[mo7888]

Yeah, my point is you don't need to wait for a top 10 pick to have a franchise player like some are begging for.

Also if we look at NBA history, it's typically two-way bigs who lead their teams deep into the playoffs. Luka now looks like he's projecting into that. I don't ever see Zion as being some shut down big, he'll never be mobile enough laterally and he can't grow inches in height to be an interior presence.

When I look at Luka I see a guy who could flame out but who also has the tools to be 'special'... if his mind can stay locked in through the rough patches all young guys go through he could come out the other side as the best of this group...his talent is undeniable...

[Dejounte]

When I look at Luka I see a guy who could flame out but who also has the tools to be 'special'... if his mind can stay locked in through the rough patches all young guys go through he could come out the other side as the best of this group...his talent is undeniable...

No doubt Luka can still bust or turn out to be an average player. It's going to be a fun ride to see what he will become. Of course, there are more doubters right now than believers. The odds are greater that he doesn't become an all-star just because few do. That's why it's not bold for anyone to predict the scenario where he becomes a bust... It's ridiculous for anyone to gloat about that. I want to say to those people, "good job, genius. Here's a cookie.".

[mo7888]

No doubt Luka can still bust or turn out to be an average player. It's going to be a fun ride to see what he will become. Of course, there are more doubters right now than believers. The odds are greater that he doesn't become an all-star just because few do. That's why it's not bold for anyone to predict the scenario where he becomes a bust... It's ridiculous for anyone to gloat about that. I want to say to those people, "good job, genius. Here's a cookie.".

You can put me in the believer category....In the same way I believe Robert Woodard is a high level role player with the proper organization I believe Luka has the potential to be an All-Star caliber player for the Spurs.

[ulosturedge]

Spurs just need to keep him in his element and not get him to be someone he is not. Which I think is what they are doing. I never thought he had the lateral quickness to keep up with small forwards and the likes. Now that he can do that his length is a problem for those type players. He is exactly in the KD mold. He's not gonna body anyone with post moves down low, but according to Pop he's got a natural shooting stroke. So he just needs to let those jumpers fly and do what he's best at. He's also got some moves to the rim he just needs to adjust and learn how to finish against NBA players.

[BillMc]

Scoring at home, that's the 29th pick, 29th pick, 29th pick, 11th pick, and 19th pick in 4 of 5 drafts that would comprise a starting lineup.

Still rooting for Lonnie Walker to be a buckets-giving 6th man to close out the five year draft run.

Spurs have been drafting and developing really well. Even Kyle, taken one year before the range you mention, was like the 30th pick and is still an NBA rotation player. It's quite a streak.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/AssassinateHate/status/1367023614655086593?s=19

Haven't re-watched it myself. If true, then holding the fort on an all-star like that is truly impressive.

[BillMc]

Spurs just need to keep him in his element and not get him to be someone he is not. Which I think is what they are doing. I never thought he had the lateral quickness to keep up with small forwards and the likes. Now that he can do that his length is a problem for those type players. He is exactly in the KD mold. He's not gonna body anyone with post moves down low, but according to Pop he's got a natural shooting stroke. So he just needs to let those jumpers fly and do what he's best at. He's also got some moves to the rim he just needs to adjust and learn how to finish against NBA players.

Yep, I called him a homeless man's KD recently. May have to upgrade that to a slightly impoverished man's KD.:lol

[offset formation]

If he keeps this up i will gladly sign this and eat
my crow.

Or perhaps instead of shooting from the hip and asking for forgiveness later, some of you folks could chill the fuck out on 19 year old kids and let the coaches do their thing.

Furthermore, perhaps some of you guys could stop treating all the ppl that have bad games like horrible humans in need of ridicule?

In other words, perhaps some ppl just need to grow the fuck up and stop clowning yourselves and showing your ass to the world.

Just a thought.

[flox]

After tonight I'm super excited for him. Hope he continues this effort.

[The Truth #6]

How many titles between them?

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a title here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

[mo7888]

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a title here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

No and Robert Horry isn't better than Timmy even though he has more rings....the point is how do those guys careers compare to the spurs we currently have.... the argument that the finished product of these players aren't overrated but our current crop of kids are overrated is just as silly.... in SA players are judged by winning titles (fair or not)... and our guys are just beginning their careers..

[Dejounte]

I think that’s oversimplifying things drastically, which is the trend for this thread. In an organization like the Spurs, with ownership, FO, and the coach all working synergistically and making smart moves with a transcendental player like Tim Duncan, those players all could have a won a title here. Mills has a ring. You think he’s better than Paul or Nash? Obviously, that’s silly.

One can argue that most, if not all, of those point guards I listed were placed in the perfect situation such as the Spurs, they would not have thrived. They each had a flaw that prevented them from going far. Let's look:

Baron Davis - Injury prone
Gilbert Arenas - Locker room cancer
Derrick Rose - Injury prone
Steve Francis - Me-ball/ the Westbrook before Westbrook
Steve Nash - Traffic cone defense, style of offense doesn't equal wins in playoffs
Chris Paul - Hype from draft position led to teams giving a huge chunk of their cap space to Paul, making it difficult to put a team around him
Mike Bibby - Didn't have the clutch gene
Stephon Marbury - Didn't follow Marbury
Deron Williams - Same as Chris Paul above
Gary Payton - Didn't follow Gary

[The Truth #6]

No and Robert Horry isn't better than Timmy even though he has more rings....the point is how do those guys careers compare to the spurs we currently have.... the argument that the finished product of these players aren't overrated but our current crop of kids are overrated is just as silly.... in SA players are judged by winning titles (fair or not)... and our guys are just beginning their careers..

It’s an interesting conversation for sure. I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing, just stressing different points.

[KobesAchilles]

This explains why Luka is balling. KobeAchilles strikes again, told you you should start calling Lonnie a scrub, stop defending him if you want him to be good.
You have this weird fascination with me saying Lonnie was a scrub when I was literally the only one defending lonnie by saying Pop ruined his development last year. All I said negative about Lonnie is that he has no dog and he doesn't.

Also I rather have Matt Bonner than Luka right now tbh

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/AssassinateHate/status/1367023614655086593?s=19

Haven't re-watched it myself. If true, then holding the fort on an all-star like that is truly impressive.

Randle was getting frustrated. Now, Randle is a guy I like -- he's not the most talented, but he's busted his ass and has gotten really good. He's not an impossible cover, but these were great possessions. I'm as impressed with Samanic staying in front of Harden the night before. Harden started figuring out he could body Luka, but Luke stayed in front of him really well.

[Dejounte]

You have this weird fascination with me saying Lonnie was a scrub when I was literally the only one defending lonnie by saying Pop ruined his development last year. All I said negative about Lonnie is that he has no dog and he doesn't.

Also I rather have Matt Bonner than Luka right now tbh

Luka Samanic will become a superstar, confirmed.

[look_at_g_shred]

Randle was getting frustrated. Now, Randle is a guy I like -- he's not the most talented, but he's busted his ass and has gotten really good. He's not an impossible cover, but these were great possessions. I'm as impressed with Samanic staying in front of Harden the night before. Harden started figuring out he could body Luka, but Luke stayed in front of him really well.
He also had some moments defensively against Zion/Ingram on Sat iirc

[KobesAchilles]

Luka Samanic will become a superstar, confirmed.
In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka :lol

[Dejounte]

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka :lol

Yes....YESSSSS.....YES!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming, KobesAchilles.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPot5ichOK0OWk3C/giphy.gif

Keep feeding us your takes. Please keep going...

[KobesAchilles]

Yes....YESSSSS.....YES!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it coming, KobesAchilles.

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Keep feeding us your takes. Please keep going...
Well unfortunately I said the Spurs would finish with the 2 seed :lol

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olkV3UAh2uM

The net doesn't even move when he hits the 3.

[Dejounte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olkV3UAh2uM

The net doesn't even move when he hits the 3.

The sad part is, this video doesn't capture his phenomenal man to man defense. We need more dedicated Spurs fans to do proper highlight videos... y'all are slacking.

[ceperez]

The sad part is, this video doesn't capture his phenomenal man to man defense. We need more dedicated Spurs fans to do proper highlight videos... y'all are slacking.

I agree. Luka stays on the floor if he can guard nimble 4s.

[rankingtear]

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka :lol

Not really there are a lot more lumbering bigs that can't closeout during his playing days than the modern era.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/SpursBelgium/status/1367019014258589696

Bro, this is Kawhi-level shit right here. He's just not quick enough (yet) to chase after loose balls after he's poked them away. Not sure he'll get there, really rare for bigs to be that quick to chase after loose balls. But his length is a terror for opposing players in the same mold as Kawhi.

[KobesAchilles]

Not really there are a lot more lumbering bigs that can't closeout during his playing days than the modern era.
I mean if someone as slow as LMA can get off 4 three pointers a game I'm sure Bonner would be able to as well. Our system is really well designed in getting guys open looks when it is spaced and ran properly. It's how Danny Green made a living and then fell off a cliff once Tony did

[PrimeMinister]

I’ve weighed in on Luka plenty. A few weeks ago I said I am confident he will be a more valuable player than Brandon Clarke is now in 2 years when Luka is 23.

And y’all just don’t know what you’re watching apparently. Luka was horrible at help defense, but you can’t point to many plays, last year included, where he was bad at man defense. If you don’t watch or know anything about the European game you wouldn’t understand.

And none of this excuses all of the Euro trash, soft Euro stiff posting by trashy, Trump supporting racist spurstalk posters like Dejounte, who is the biggest front running ass on this board.


https://twitter.com/SpursBelgium/status/1367019014258589696

Bro, this is Kawhi-level shit right here. He's just not quick enough (yet) to chase after loose balls after he's poked them away. Not sure he'll get there, really rare for bigs to be that quick to chase after loose balls. But his length is a terror for opposing players in the same mold as Kawhi.

Early on in his minutes he surprised Randle with his strength, realized he wouldn’t be able to body his way into the restricted area against him and tried going to the face up game more resulting in this. Once Julius lowered his shoulder on the drive and then fouled Drew in the open court - it was clear he was in his head.

Not bad for another lazy euro prospect with no motor or dog in him, tbh. Bringing his gleague “man amongst boys” presence to the big show.

[mo7888]

It’s an interesting conversation for sure. I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing, just stressing different points.

I agree with that..

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/SpursBelgium/status/1367019014258589696

Bro, this is Kawhi-level shit right here. He's just not quick enough (yet) to chase after loose balls after he's poked them away. Not sure he'll get there, really rare for bigs to be that quick to chase after loose balls. But his length is a terror for opposing players in the same mold as Kawhi.

Speaking of Nephew, I would love to see Luka guard him. Neph is so efficient because he's always able to get comfortable looks due to his long winspan/strength. I have a feeling Luka's length would bother him.

[J_Paco]

No doubt Ja looks good but it reminds me of a certain time when there were tons of PGs who came and went and a certain point guard drafted in 2001 as the 28th overall pick established himself as a winning point guard above the rest. Bring up Timmy D if you will but no one can argue the fact that in a re-draft, Tony Parker would be selected top 10. So to me, these fools obsessed with top 10 picks are blind and will never recognize when there's a new TP or Manu in town who is leading the way.


Baron Davis
Gilbert Arenas
Derrick Rose
Steve Francis
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mike Bibby
Stephon Marbury
Deron Williams
Gary Payton

Were all "Ja Morants" at one point.

I understand your point and believe me that I agree that Williamson is overrated, but a few of those guys on that list are legitimate HOF'er. Plus, Tony had the benefit of playing with the best player/coach of his era & Manu Ginobili.

No doubt I think Tony could've been an all - star elsewhere, but Timmy had a lot more to do with the championship success than TP.

And Morant is special and could be the best PG in the league very soon.

Anyway, I'm happy with the flashes that Luka has shown and hopefully they're signs that he's ready for a bigger role. I'd love for him to take Rudy Gay's minutes after the all - star break, but that isn't very likely.

Just hoping Pop finds some time for the kid cause we desperately need a long, rangy defensive - minded 4 for that also has guard skills (that's why they drafted him over Clarke, duh).

[Dejounte]

Speaking of Nephew, I would love to see Luka guard him. Neph is so efficient because he's always able to get comfortable looks due to his long winspan/strength. I have a feeling Luka's length would bother him.

In the clip, you can see Luka jump to contest the shot. Usually, players his size land in the shooter's area resulting in a foul. So long as Luka can keep landing precisely outside the shooter's landing area, he will be fine against Kawhi. The fact that he's doing this is amazing. That's not normal for bigs his size. They're usually really clumsy and easily foul that way.

[Dejounte]

I understand your point and believe me that I agree that Williamson is overrated, but a few of those guys on that list are legitimate HOF'er. Plus, Tony had the benefit of playing with the best player/coach of his era & Manu Ginobili.

No doubt I think Tony could've been an all - star elsewhere, but Timmy had a lot more to do with the championship success than TP.

And Morant is special and could be the best PG in the league very soon.

Anyway, I'm happy with the flashes that Luka has shown and hopefully they're signs that he's ready for a bigger role. I'd love for him to take Rudy Gay's minutes after the all - star break, but that isn't very likely.

Just hoping Pop finds some time for the kid cause we desperately need a long, rangy defensive - minded 4 for that also has guard skills (that's why they drafted him over Clarke, duh).

Yeah, that's more of a sub-point than to my main point. Just pointing out you don't need to dream for a top 10 pick to land a top 10 caliber (draft position-wise) HOF talent (Parker). If you do, you miss out on what's in front of you. Some here are obsessed with the idea of getting a top 10 pick.

[J_Paco]

No doubt Ja looks good but it reminds me of a certain time when there were tons of PGs who came and went and a certain point guard drafted in 2001 as the 28th overall pick established himself as a winning point guard above the rest. Bring up Timmy D if you will but no one can argue the fact that in a re-draft, Tony Parker would be selected top 10. So to me, these fools obsessed with top 10 picks are blind and will never recognize when there's a new TP or Manu in town who is leading the way.


Yeah, that's more of a sub-point than to my main point. Just pointing out you don't need to dream for a top 10 pick to land a top 10 caliber (draft position-wise) HOF talent (Parker). If you do, you miss out on what's in front of you.

Yeah, could've said that without (seemingly) denigrating those quality PG's. I'd say out of that entire group only Francis was a "flash in the pan" and never got better after the initial "hype" surrounding him.

And we've seen Bryant, Antetokounmpo, Nephew, Jokic, etc. all reach elite status without being drafted top 10, shit, we've even seen guys like Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green become multiple time all - stars as second round picks.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe any of our young guys will reach the elite tier. Getting to the all - star tier (or borderline all - star) definitely seems like it could be in DeJounte's grasp if he can improve a bit more.

And if Luka can be another good to great piece (either starting or off the bench) that's even better with his combination of size, quickness & speed.

[Dejounte]

Yeah, could've said that without (seemingly) denigrating those quality PG's. I'd say out of that entire group only Francis was a "flash in the pan" and never got better after the initial "hype" surrounding him.

And we've seen Bryant, Antetokounmpo, Nephew, Jokic, etc. all reach elite status without being drafted top 10, shit, we've even seen guys like Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green become multiple time all - stars as second round picks.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe any of our young guys will reach the elite tier. Getting to the all - star tier (or borderline all - star) definitely seems like it could be in DeJounte's grasp if he can improve a bit more.

And if Luka can be another good to great piece (either starting or off the bench) that's even better with his combination of size, quickness & speed.

The odds are against them. Few become elite. It's not a stretch or a wild guess. It's for sure easier to claim that they won't.

After what's been shown lately, I think Luka has potential to meet that elite tier. He would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft if he entered it. Only Cade, Mobley, and Kuminga are better prospects. If you look at the others, they're not that impressive. Just because Luka doesn't have a "top 10 pick" shine to his name, doesn't mean he can't get there. He's flashing tools few have in this upcoming draft.

Scottie Barnes is being branded a top 10 pick and mother fucker can't even shoot.

[Russ]

Also I rather have Matt Bonner than Luka right now tbh

I'd rather have Luka -- he's better on camera (his English).

[The Truth #6]

One can argue that most, if not all, of those point guards I listed were placed in the perfect situation such as the Spurs, they would not have thrived. They each had a flaw that prevented them from going far. Let's look:

Baron Davis - Injury prone
Gilbert Arenas - Locker room cancer
Derrick Rose - Injury prone
Steve Francis - Me-ball/ the Westbrook before Westbrook
Steve Nash - Traffic cone defense, style of offense doesn't equal wins in playoffs
Chris Paul - Hype from draft position led to teams giving a huge chunk of their cap space to Paul, making it difficult to put a team around him
Mike Bibby - Didn't have the clutch gene
Stephon Marbury - Didn't follow Marbury
Deron Williams - Same as Chris Paul above
Gary Payton - Didn't follow Gary

If you’re saying that none of those players could have succeeded next to prime Duncan, then I disagree. Ownership/FO/coach almost always need to be aligned. I mean if Steph Curry was still playing under Mark Jackson, would he be on this list too? He wouldn’t have won with Jackson’s archaic system. Player success isn’t simply about the player is my point. Isn’t this the main argument for the “Spurs System”?

[J_Paco]

The odds are against them. Few become elite. It's not a stretch or a wild guess. It's for sure easier to claim that they won't.

After what's been shown lately, I think Luka has potential to meet that elite tier. He would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft if he entered it. Only Cade, Mobley, and Kuminga are better prospects. If you look at the others, they're not that impressive. Just because Luka doesn't have a "top 10 pick" shine to his name, doesn't mean he can't get there. He's flashing tools few have in this upcoming draft.

Scottie Barnes is being branded a top 10 pick and mother fucker can't even shoot.

He was too inefficient in the G - League/bubble and has too small of a sample size (with this high effort play) for me to go that far. He is definitely showing why the Spurs "gambled" taking him 19th - over the vaunted, otherworldly Brandon Clarke - yet it needs to continue to validate this "hype" sturring up, right now.

I just want him to be more Dario Saric/Danilo Gallinari and less Dragan Bender to be happy with the selection. Note, all three of those guys were drafted higher than Luka and came in with more pressure surrounding them. Luka has a much better situation with less pressure (he isn't our "savior"), on a different timelime and not asking him to be the man too early.

I also personally hope he becomes a strong finisher in the paint. We already have Lonnie & Jakob as poor or "soft" finishers and a third guy being that way will drive me insane.

[Dejounte]

He was too inefficient in the G - League/bubble and has too small of a sample size (with this high effort play) for me to go that far. He is definitely showing why the Spurs "gambled" taking him 19th - over the vaunted, otherworldly Brandon Clarke - yet it needs to continue to validate this "hype" sturring up, right now.

I just want him to be more Dario Saric/Danilo Gallinari and less Dragan Bender to be happy with the selection. Note, all three of those guys were drafted higher than Luka and came in with more pressure surrounding them. Luka has a much better situation with less pressure (he isn't our "savior"), on a different timelime and not asking him to be the man too early.

I also personally hope he becomes a strong finisher in the paint. We already have Lonnie & Jakob as poor or "soft" finishers and a third guy being that way will drive me insane.

To go top 5 far? Name seven prospects more appealing than Luka right now. Jalen Green's and even Kuminga's numbers aren't even that efficient.

Kuminga is at 39%.

We had a similar argument with Franz lmao. I do my homework bro. Trust me on this one.

[RC_Drunkford]

I‘ve found an Croatian interview from Luka back from October. So in his first season he’s added 20 pounds of muscle mass, but he said he hasn’t lost any quickness. He said that the time in the G-League was very beneficial for him cause the Austin Spurs run the same plays as the big club, so it’s easy to transition from one team to the other. Apparently the time in the bubble was very helpful for him because the team stayed together the entire time and they were able to bond. He also said that working out with Tim Duncan was very important to him cause he played PF as well. „When you’re with him you’re trying to take it all in, cause he was great on and off the court“ is what he said. He also said that Luka Doncic is always there to help him, „his door is always open“

[BackHome]

I remember people saying we screwed that draft class by picking Luka first and Keldon second I was that is crazy talk. That draft is a A when we did it and now it is looking like an A+ easily. That is why I was hoping we could swing another trade to get us two first round picks.

[slick'81]

Anyone could see luka's potential. He was soo young and raw but is finally starting to mature

[jehawk81]

In today's era, Matt Bonner would've been really damn good He effectively shuts down rim protectors by hitting 3s at like 45%

Also Luka IS a superstar. Just not our Luka :lol

Matt Bonner was actually very unclutch. His 3-pt percentage was very good, but if ask any Spurs fan that actually watched the team during that time about Bonner & they'd tell you that Bonner was almost automatic when the team had a 15-20 pt lead, but if the game was tight he'd brick a wide ass open 3.. so no, Bonner would not have been "really damn good" nor even pretty good in today's era

[exstatic]

Anyone could see luka's potential. He was soo young and raw but is finally starting to mature

There were a lot of NOT anyone’s here who didn’t see it.

[exstatic]

Matt Bonner was actually very unclutch. His 3-pt percentage was very good, but if ask any Spurs fan that actually watched the team during that time about Bonner & they'd tell you that Bonner was almost automatic when the team had a 15-20 pt lead, but if the game was tight he'd brick a wide ass open 3.. so no, Bonner would not have been "really damn good" nor even pretty good in today's era

Two things I disagree with here. I don’t recall him choking in the regular season at any time in the game. I do recall him struggling in the post season, because teams tighten their defenses, and close out better. The second thing is that he wouldn’t feast now. Sean talks about this regularly on the telecast: no one closes out well anymore. They’re too afraid of the three FTs. In a league of no/ poor/late close outs, Bonner would feast.

[KingKev]

Speaking of Nephew, I would love to see Luka guard him. Neph is so efficient because he's always able to get comfortable looks due to his long winspan/strength. I have a feeling Luka's length would bother him.

Homerism at it’s finest. Luka has had a few decent games. The bar was so low for his defensive prowess just getting a block or a steal would make most of you wet. Let’s not compare Julius Randle to Kawhi. Luka is 6’10 with a 6’10 wing span. Leonard has a 7’3 wingspan and rivals LBJs strength. Luka is not the second coming. He loons long and athletic compared to LMA, Lyles and Eubanks.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Bonner had a low release point on his three which kept him from getting that off when covered. I always figured that's why his numbers fell in the post season.



As for Luka, watching him shut down an eastern conference all-star last night was pretty impressive.

[Dejounte]

Homerism at it’s finest. Luka has had a few decent games. The bar was so low for his defensive prowess just getting a block or a steal would make most of you wet. Let’s not compare Julius Randle to Kawhi. Luka is 6’10 with a 6’10 wing span. Leonard has a 7’3 wingspan and rivals LBJs strength. Luka is not the second coming. He loons long and athletic compared to LMA, Lyles and Eubanks.

Homerism is saying he will for sure shut down Kawhi.

Saying he would like to see how Luka would do against Kawhi isn't homerism.

Plus, you can't look at last night's defensive performance by Luka and shrug it off like it wasn't special.

Then again, a lot of Spurs fans on here sometimes don't watch the games and then comment on things they didn't see.

Not saying that that's you. But it's a common trend.

Luka's standing reach is what's helping him on defense (contesting shots), not his wingspan. His SR is causing his matchup to shoot low percentages. Stats back it up.

[jehawk81]

Two things I disagree with here. I don’t recall him choking in the regular season at any time in the game. I do recall him struggling in the post season, because teams tighten their defenses, and close out better. The second thing is that he wouldn’t feast now. Sean talks about this regularly on the telecast: no one closes out well anymore. They’re too afraid of the three FTs. In a league of no/ poor/late close outs, Bonner would feast.

With Bonner, it wasn't about closing out well or not. It was more that if the team had built a big ass lead & then Pop called off the dogs, Bonner would look like an all-star with his 3s that would hit, wether he was open or not. However, if the game was tight, he'd miss so many 3s, even if they were wide-open. That was a frustration among STers throughout the Bonner years

[TD 21]

His past few performances have definitely been encouraging, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, anoint him a future starter - star and proclaim victory over non homers who you conflate as "haters".

The lateral quickness/switchability doesn't surprise me, but the fact that he mostly held his ground, with minimal help, against Randle, did. If he could become a suitable option on the Antetokounmpo's/Williamson's of the world, that'd be huge.

Even if he is ready to become a rotation player and presuming they're whole post All-Star break, 1) That won't last through 40 games in 68 days and 2) It's not a big deal if he has to wait another half season while a credible rotation player, on a possible playoff team, plays ahead of him.

[Dejounte]

His past few performances have definitely been encouraging, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, anoint him a future starter - star and proclaim victory over non homers who you conflate as "haters".

The lateral quickness/switchability doesn't surprise me, but the fact that he mostly held his ground, with minimal help, against Randle, did. If he could become a suitable option on the Antetokounmpo's/Williamson's of the world, that'd be huge.

Even if he is ready to become a rotation player and presuming they're whole post All-Star break, 1) That won't last through 40 games in 68 days and 2) It's not a big deal if he has to wait another half season while a credible rotation player, on a possible playoff team, plays ahead of him.

I'm not trying to be abrasive about the way I'm defending Luka, and if that's how I've come across I apologize.

Comments such as, "he's not the second coming" or "he'll never become elite" just sounds too outrageous to me. I'm like, give it time, man... Anything is possible. Many didn't think he'd be ready now, but look at him now.

[KingKev]

Homerism is saying he will for sure shut down Kawhi.

Saying he would like to see how Luka would do against Kawhi isn't homerism.

Plus, you can't look at last night's defensive performance by Luka and shrug it off like it wasn't special.

Then again, a lot of Spurs fans on here sometimes don't watch the games and then comment on things they didn't see.

Not saying that that's you. But it's a common trend.

Luka's standing reach is what's helping him on defense (contesting shots), not his wingspan. His SR is causing his matchup to shoot low percentages. Stats back it up.

Fair enough. I’m still indifferent on Luka. His defensIve effort these last few games was impressive. He is a wild card for me. I hope we continue to give him minutes with the main team to show his worth. Defense is about effort as much as it is physical ability. He has the physical attributes so let’s hope he keep this trajectory moving. I’m just not getting too excited about any short term string of performances. Whether it’s Lyles the last few games, Walker going back to back 20+ scoring nights in DDR’s absence, or LMA with one good outing off the bench.

[Capt Bringdown]

Walker needs to get his walking papers. Head full of mush, that kid.

[duncan2150]

His past few performances have definitely been encouraging, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, anoint him a future starter - star and proclaim victory over non homers who you conflate as "haters".

The lateral quickness/switchability doesn't surprise me, but the fact that he mostly held his ground, with minimal help, against Randle, did. If he could become a suitable option on the Antetokounmpo's/Williamson's of the world, that'd be huge.

Even if he is ready to become a rotation player and presuming they're whole post All-Star break, 1) That won't last through 40 games in 68 days and 2) It's not a big deal if he has to wait another half season while a credible rotation player, on a possible playoff team, plays ahead of him.


Totally agree with this. I like the effort, focus by samanic and hope that continues.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=156WfAEhvL0

**Down2Buck always has a great synopsis for his videos.

Over the first few months of my semi-retirement, I've gotten the distinct feeling that I'm not doing enough pandering to the citizens of various nation-states in the Balkans. Pandering to the inhabitants of those countries is accountable for roughly 94% of the success I've found as a purveyor of NBA highlight videos on the You Tubes. If I had been more diligent, I would have created more opportunities to pander to these people, but I haven't been more diligent. I've been lazy, and the citizenry of the various -ia countries in southeast Europe are the ones who have suffered.

Now is the chance to make things right. Luka Samanic is from Croatia and he's in the NBA, which means that Croatians are desperate to watch his highlight videos. By my estimate, thousands of Croatians will find this video, and a decent percentage of them will read the words that I'm writing here. It's the perfect opportunity for me to talk about the proud lineage of Croatian NBA players, the fine quality of Croatian women, and how Samanic is undoubtedly going to be an NBA All-Star one day.

Croatia has turned out some good NBA players. Toni Kukoc is the one most fans would recognize, having been the third man on some of those Michael Jordan championship teams, but we can't forget Drazen Petrovic, who was poised for stardom until his life was tragically cut short. More recent luminaries like Bojan Bogdanovic, who is playing very well in Utah right now, and Dario Saric, who is getting misused in Phoenix but will eventually find a team that can use him to his strengths, should be familiar to today's fans. Sure, some Croats don't pan out in the NBA (Mario Hezonja, Dragan Bender), but Croatia probably has a smaller bust percentage than America does, so we can't fault them for that.

Of course, no discussion of Croats in the NBA is complete without mentioning the woman of Croatia, who are widely regarded as being the most beautiful in the world. I have personally used the internet to look up pictures of Croatian women, and they are very, very hot. My new life goal is to move to Croatia and marry one. Hopefully my credentials as a provider of Croatian NBA player highlight videos will woo them. If not, my emaciated frame, long ponytail, and long [other part of body] will have to do the job. The first time I see a Croat woman naked, I will probably have a heart attack and die, so struck will I be by her blinding beauty. Paramedics of Croatia, please have the defibrillator on standby.

Luka Samanic will totally be an All-Star one day. He's off to a slow start in his NBA career, but the Spurs know what they're doing. They'll give him time to develop properly and learn from the best (LaMarcus Aldridge counts as "the best" in this scenario), and then, when the league is least ready, they'll unleash him. Croats have a lot to look forward to in this guy. If there's a better Luka in the NBA right now, I don't know who he is.

I said I was going to pander to Croats in this description, but that was a lie. I'm not even pandering right now. I'm just spitting straight facts.

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[JuneJive]

Nice for us.
We needed someone with his potential.

And he is right about the women. Beautiful.

[KobesAchilles]

Matt Bonner was actually very unclutch. His 3-pt percentage was very good, but if ask any Spurs fan that actually watched the team during that time about Bonner & they'd tell you that Bonner was almost automatic when the team had a 15-20 pt lead, but if the game was tight he'd brick a wide ass open 3.. so no, Bonner would not have been "really damn good" nor even pretty good in today's era
So unclutch that he shut down prime Dwight Howard in 13 and made Iblocka useless once we started him in 2014. Maybe you don’t remember the ass kicking we were getting in that series before we started him. I admit he got owned by Zach Randolph in 2011 but that’s about it. He was solid in the playoffs after that.

But if your complaint is that he didn’t hit enough game winners then I think you’re going to be very disappointed in Luka tbh. Bonner sucks bc he wasn’t a go to clutch guy. We had 2 of the best closers in the world with Timmy and Manu and a 3rd great closer in Tony and you’re in here bitching about him not being big shot Rob. Today’s Spurstalk :lol

[B1gduff]

I have been really impressed with his defensive effort. Its a total 180 compared to the few G-league games I've seen this year. Seeing him straight up dominate Randle on both-ends was the high-light of the game, you clearly see Randle being frustrated. His ability to guard the perimeter, Switchability and than able to handle big guys around the paint gives him a different out look on defense! Scary thing is that he could potenttially develop into an Above-averge defender or a dominating defender, and than his offesnive game is still Developing and onces it develops it's a scary though. He can shoot the 3, he's quite quick for a guy his size, able to bring the ball up. Now he still needs work as a ball-handler, and fisnihing but the skill sets are there!

Now, saw a few comments about Lonnie, Here's the deal he's only 22 and there is alot of talent and i trust our development team. Resigning him and keep on developing, he has a chance for a bright future! Look at Murray, people were on his ass (they never learn) and he's has easily been the seond best player this year. Resign Lonnie and let him develop, he's already show better offensive upside than Murray now it being patience and we have to wait (which we wobn't or don't understand)

[Ocotillo]

Doesn't Pop speak the same language they do in the Balkans?

[JuneJive]

Doesn't Pop speak the same language they do in the Balkans?

Very little. By his own admission.

[spurraider21]

Homerism is saying he will for sure shut down Kawhi.

Saying he would like to see how Luka would do against Kawhi isn't homerism.

Plus, you can't look at last night's defensive performance by Luka and shrug it off like it wasn't special.

Then again, a lot of Spurs fans on here sometimes don't watch the games and then comment on things they didn't see.

Not saying that that's you. But it's a common trend.

Luka's standing reach is what's helping him on defense (contesting shots), not his wingspan. His SR is causing his matchup to shoot low percentages. Stats back it up.
yep. its not just about wingspan. people dont just consist of floating arms. giannis has the same wingspan as kawhi, but one obviously has more reach than the other :lol

[R. DeMurre]

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1366977533766488064?s=19

:lolWhatta you, a stat nerd now?

[BatManu20]

You can see his confidence growing every. He’s clearly getting more comfortable out there on the floor. You love to see it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Small sample obviously, but Luka had the best +/- for each of the past 2 games.

[John B]

yep. its not just about wingspan. people dont just consist of floating arms. giannis has the same wingspan as kawhi, but one obviously has more reach than the other :lol
Agree. Luka has shown great discipline in putting his hands straight and standing tall defending his guy. And for a 6’11 that’s a lot. Also his lateral quickness allows him to switch and closeout on shooters. Luka, likewise Diop, can be very useful in defending not only bigs but shooters which have suffered with Gay and Aldridge slow recovery. Spurs will be better defensively with Luka and Diop.

[ceperez]

Agree. Luka has shown great discipline in putting his hands straight and standing tall defending his guy. And for a 6’11 that’s a lot. Also his lateral quickness allows him to switch and closeout on shooters. Luka, likewise Diop, can be very useful in defending not only bigs but shooters which have suffered with Gay and Aldridge slow recovery. Spurs will be better defensively with Luka and Diop.

You can't teach length! Lyles short coming is that he's not quick enough. He's 6-10 in shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Similar also to Diop in that he plays underneath the basket. Both Diop and Lyles are also decent ball handlers for their size. It's also like they have the same career path starting somewhere else, ending up in the Nuggets and eventually now with the Spurs. Lyles though was a lottery pick and Diop is a 2nd rounder. Both players are also 25 years old. It seems like they are the same kind of player!

Before the bubble, Lyles proved to be a serviceable glue guy. Not being disruptive on the court and just doing the right things and being in the right spot. He's the guy who just doesn't get in the way of the Spurs other players. This may just be a good thing!

Diop has yet to show much of anything yet. His +/- are the worse in the team.

[Dejounte]

Yeah, Diop has a lower posture on defense and more fluid on offense, making him a more suitable option at small forward. He's got better instincts on defense.

[couchman]

Gotta love the idea of a last-play defensive lineup that switches everything featuring DJM, White, Diop, Samanic, and Poeltl

[John B]

Gotta love the idea of a last-play defensive lineup that switches everything featuring DJM, White, Diop, Samanic, and Poeltl

Did you see Tre, Luka, Diop, Eubanks, Lyles mopping minutes? :lol I mean the long guards (Tre excluded but he's a very good defensive player also) and mobile bigs are allowing Pop different defensive look. This is the most athletic I've seen the Spurs since the Twin Towers days.

[BillMc]

I'm guessing this was probably already posted, but if not, and you want an hour and a half of Luka analysis. Well, this is your vid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO8PATNbnfc&t=702s

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/CulturaPopPod/status/1367920429944479744

[BillMc]

https://twitter.com/CulturaPopPod/status/1367920429944479744

So Patty and Rudy are good defensive players??

[RC_Drunkford]

So Patty and Rudy are good defensive players??

Rudy absolutely, he's 11th in the NBA in RAPTOR ranking. Played really well defensively this season

[BillMc]

Rudy absolutely, he's 11th in the NBA in RAPTOR ranking. Played really well defensively this season

:toastThat surprises me, tbh. He always looks slow-footed to me these days.

[ace3g]

13. San Antonio Spurs | PR: 12 ↓
There’s another Luka in Texas.

Luka Samanic, drafted 19th by the Spurs in 2019, has averaged seven points on 35.3 percent from 3 and 5.6 rebounds in his last five games before the break. The 6-foot-10 Croatian underwhelmed early in his career until this recent stretch, but his development could play a major role for the Spurs moving forward. San Antonio is loaded with young guards and wings, but it lacks younger bigs aside from Jakob Poeltl, who is an effective interior player without perimeter skills.

Enter Samanic, who can handle the ball in the open court, attack a closeout, or make acrobatic attempts in the paint. Samanic is earning regular minutes only because the Spurs are dealing with a COVID-19 outbreak, so the true challenge will be sustaining his performance when touches are less frequent and minutes aren’t promised. But the 21-year-old’s offensive development is encouraging nonetheless.

During this five-game run, Samanic is also displaying versatile defense after two years of working on his fundamentals to stay in a stance and improve his lateral quickness.

The first clip above shows Samanic defending Randle full court, nearly knocking the ball away, keeping him out of the paint, and then heavily contesting a 3. Samanic has done a good job against bigs like Randle, and the Spurs have also trusted him to switch onto some quicker guards like Irving, Harden, and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. The longer Samanic keeps this up, the clearer it’ll be that the Spurs have a good Luka of their own.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/8/22319031/nba-power-rankings-midseason-brooklyn-nets

[onechance87]

For sure needs playing time with the potential hes showed the last few games...Should probably gobble up all lonnies mins,Lonnie been so inconsistent its frustrating

[BackHome]

Luka needs to get consistent minutes and to be honest if he continues to bust his butt on defense I would name him the starting PF after a few more games. That leaves Lyles and Rudy to get spot minutes with the second unit or when Luka is in foul trouble but like I said he is our future!!

Now we just need to draft a big man to back up Poodle who hopefully is decent defender but can hit the 3 ball

[exstatic]

:toastThat surprises me, tbh. He always looks slow-footed to me these days.

The one thing that works in his favor is that for most of the season, so far, other teams have been so anxious to get LMA into switches that they’ve pretty much ignored Rudy, and allowed him to play pretty ok matchups.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I’m happy Luka has been taking advantage of his time seeing real NBA action so far. I really hope he continues to improve