Trump approved military strike on Iran then changed mind

[djohn2oo8]

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wut

[Spurtacular]

Clearly an awful human being, amirite?

[DJR210]

From MOAB to nuke

[Winehole23]

Rumors Trump is being advised by Tucker Carlson...which sort of makes sense of you've seen his show lately.

[djohn2oo8]

Clearly an awful human being, amirite?
Not sure who wants war besides Bolton. But if you are going to approve a military strike, either do it or don’t. This makes the US look weak.

[Reck]

Rumors Trump is being advised by Tucker Carlson...which sort of makes sense of you've seen his show lately.

Is Trump on the outs with his boy Hannity?

He's usually the go to guy for trumpie.

[boutons_deux]

"president’s decision to change course was unclear"

:lol sicko Trash is unclear. Sez he can't believe it was intentional, must have been an accident. :lol

[boutons_deux]

"The operation was underway in its early stages when it was called off,

a senior administration official said.

Planes were in the air and ships were in position,"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews_TheMorningEmail06 2119_ (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews_TheMorningEmail06 2119_)

[DarrinS]

good

[hater]

This is a BS story coming from white house.

Most likely Trump never approved a strike. This is just some more face saving like what Nixon did

[AaronY]

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[Will Hunting]

Not sure who wants war besides Bolton. But if you are going to approve a military strike, either do it or don’t. This makes the US look weak.
This is a reach. Trump made the right move in not going forward with a strike. The fact that he almost went through with it but ended up not doing so doesn’t make us look weak.

[Will Hunting]

Rumors Trump is being advised by Tucker Carlson...which sort of makes sense of you've seen his show lately.
Carlson has been on point with his foreign policy opinions lately so that actually doesn’t bother me.

[djohn2oo8]

This is a reach. Trump made the right move in not going forward with a strike. The fact that he almost went through with it but ended up not doing so doesn’t make us look weak.
The planes were already in the air. According to the story. Iran will likely do something to test Trump again. On one occasion he has shown he is unable to follow through. Changing your mind mid mission does make us look weak. I’m glad they didn’t strike, but it shows instability to reverse course like that, so close to a strike.

[djohn2oo8]

If you aren’t sure about a strike then don’t approve it.

[MultiTroll]

Billy Clinton had Bin Laden in the crosshairs, literally a "shoot" order away from removing that virus.

Called it off.

[baseline bum]

The fact that he approved it means he's probably going to eventually follow through and bomb them.

[MultiTroll]

Because these media phucks know the real reason for the call off. :rolleyes

[djohn2oo8]

The fact that he approved it means he's probably going to eventually follow through and bomb them.
Yep probably

[Spurminator]

Not sure who wants war besides Bolton. But if you are going to approve a military strike, either do it or don’t. This makes the US look weak.

I hope no one who actually has the President's ear is telling him this.

[djohn2oo8]

Billy Clinton had Bin Laden in the crosshairs, literally a "shoot" order away from removing that virus.

Called it off.
Trump publicly talked a big game yesterday. Approved it then called it off 10 minutes before. It shows he can’t decide on what to do and he was unsure. When’s the last time a US President approved a strike that could lead to war and then called it off last minute

[djohn2oo8]

I hope no one who actually has the President's ear is telling him this.
Bolton and Pompeo are pushing for war.

[Spurminator]

Bolton and Pompeo are pushing for war.

Right, I'm saying I hope they do so without appealing to his personally looking weak, because that's a guaranteed strike.

[djohn2oo8]

Right, I'm saying I hope they do so without appealing to his personally looking weak, because that's a guaranteed strike.
With his ego yes. But on the other hand. Putin warned him not to. That may make him a bit hesitant.

[boutons_deux]

Clinton shot at Bin Laden but missed. Repugs claimed Clinton was deflecting from his impeachment, then incoming Repugs ignored outgoing Clinton's staff about Muslim terrorism and OBL, because Repug politics and dissing the Dems trumps national security.

[MultiTroll]

Clinton shot at Bin Laden but missed.
Check this link while you're in whatever your todays US Gov't entitlement line is.

From the LA Times, a totally pro Clinton media source:

Bill Clinton: 'I could have killed' Osama bin Laden in 1998

https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-bill-clinton-osama-bin-laden-20140801-story.html

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1TM0UZ

Like wtf lol

[MultiTroll]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1TM0UZ

Like wtf lol
Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?

[boutons_deux]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1TM0UZ

Like wtf lol

:lol Trash, master geopolitical diplomat extraordinaire, wants to do Fart of The Deal with Iran, since it worked so well with NK and CN.

the Fart: do what I want or I'll bomb the shit out of you.

mafiya Don Trump-olone: "Nice country ya got there. Would be a shame if something happened to it."

[djohn2oo8]

Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?
They called his bluff and he folded. Call to warn them and then back down? :lol

[Pavlov]

Clinton doesn't want to kill 300 innocent civilians -- Carbbs loses his shit 20 years later.

Trump doesn't want to kill 150 people of undetermined innocence -- Carbbs immediately touches himself.

[CosmicCowboy]

We just need to shoot down another airliner to show em we are serious.

[Pavlov]

:lol "cocked and loaded"

[Ghazi]

America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini

[Spurs Homer]

Clinton doesn't want to kill 300 innocent civilians -- Carbbs loses his shit 20 years later.

Trump doesn't want to kill 150 people of undetermined innocence -- Carbbs immediately FONDLES himself.

FIFY

[Spurs Homer]

Stupid white supremacist - useful idiot - now finds himself in a pickle

his hatred of black president led him to be compromised by foreign agents who saw amerikkkan white supremacist supporters were the key to amerikkka destroying itself from the inside

the useful idiot’s greed $$$ allowed those foreign agents to buy him completely for their use

iran and amerikkka played like pawns

putin & mbs high fiving at their last meeting was aimed directly at stupid trump supporters

[boutons_deux]

:lol "cocked and loaded"

The Best Words in The Best Idioms

[Spurs Homer]

RED LINE -


CROSSED!

[RandomGuy]

good

So your dipshit president didn't bother fucking getting enough information before ordering servicemembers to potentially start a war,, then finds out that bombing things kills people and changed his mother fucking mind?

Guess he still has your vote, because "magic R".

The fact that this dipshit is about to get people killed but can't be bothered to ask questions or read briefings BEFORE making orders... holy fuckballs. We knew he was unstable incompetent before, but this takes the cake.

[hitmanyr2k]

Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?

It would be hard for Iran to see planes on radar when Trump called off the strike before any planes took off.

[phxspurfan]

Welp, start getting those iodine tablets ready

[RandomGuy]

This is a reach. Trump made the right move in not going forward with a strike. The fact that he almost went through with it but ended up not doing so doesn’t make us look weak.

But not finding out about casualties BEFORE giving the orders, makes you look like an idiot.

FWIW, this was an expensive loss:


The U.S. military drone Iran shot down over the Persian Gulf on Thursday was a high-flying prototype model belonging to the Navy.

The Navy for years has deployed the Broad Area Maritime Surveillance Demonstrator, or BAMS-D, drones on an emergency basis, stationing the 737-size unmanned aerial vehicles to watch over Syria and Iran.

The unarmed BAMS-D drone “was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz,” Navy Capt. Bill Urban, a U.S. Central Command spokesperson, told The Daily Beast via email.

“Iranian reports that the aircraft was over Iran are false,” Urban added.

The Pentagon’s decision to deploy the rare BAMS-D underscores the military’s urgency amid escalating tensions between the United States and Iran. Prior to the shoot-down, the Navy possessed just four copies of the BAMS-D, which is a naval variant of the RQ-4 Global Hawk that Northrop Grumman builds for the Air Force.

A single Global Hawk sells for more than $200 million, counting the cost of its sensors. Operators control the drone from work stations on the ground, beaming commands via satellite to the pilotless aircraft.

The Pentagon began developing the Global Hawk and its variants back in the '90s, hoping to replace Cold War-vintage U-2 spy planes. The idea was that a drone, with no pilot aboard, could stay aloft longer and fly riskier missions than a U-2 could do.

The Global Hawk and its variants can circle at up to 65,000 feet for as many as 30 hours while simultaneously carrying a camera, an infrared sensor, and a radar that can track moving targets.

In the end, the Air Force decided to keep the U-2 and build up a force of dozens of RQ-4s. The giant drones with the 131-feet wingspan have flown over Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2008, the Navy paid Northrop more than $1 billion to begin developing a version of the Global Hawk with modifications for tracking ships.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bams-d-drone-shot-down-by-iran-is-a-dollar200-million-prototype-spy-plane


Ouch. These things should be fitted with some chaff or missile evasion stuff. No squishy human inside so it could pull enough Gs in manuevers that would kill a person. Makes me wonder how easy it was to shoot down.

[spurraider21]

good
how the fuck is this development "good"

[boutons_deux]

Experts are not buying Trump’s claim for why he called off strike on Iran in mid-air

“These are not strategically sophisticated people” :lol

“I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General.”

Many are asking, how was this not a part of the decision-making process before he gave the order to strike?

Others just point-blank don’t believe it wasn’t.

speculation it was Fox News’ Tucker Carlson’s comments that led Trump to back off –

Carlson advised against the strike.

But having been part of military CONOPs briefings, they always include an assessment of casualties on both sides at the front end.

A source told me 30 minutes ago that Trump was pleased with his own performance last night, loved being in command by ordering the strikes and by then ordering the stand-down. And the president just... tweeted it.

This explanation doesn't smell right.

The assessments of casualties would have been prepared, known, and discussed long in advance (part of the "CONOP")

Is Trump saying he asked that question of the General only after authorizing the strike, and when US planes were en route?

the only constant is the President’s fragile ego.

This means decisions are made in line

w/ who/what Trump likes/dislikes at any given moment,

which shifts depending on who he last spoke with or watched on TV,

and who was very nice or very unfair to him.

Again. Very nice or very unfair TO HIM.

Not the country,

not the people,

not his supporters,

not his party,

not his cabinet. HIM or anything he sees as an extension of himself,

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/experts-are-not-buying-trumps-claim-for (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/experts-are-not-buying-trumps-claim-for)

[leemajors]

how the fuck is this development "good"

assuming he meant calling it off good?

[spurraider21]

assuming he meant calling it off good?
this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh

[leemajors]

this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh

very true

[boutons_deux]

this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh

That's fundamental to his totally fraudulent life

[leemajors]

now he claims it never happened.

[DMC]

Float the buoy

[spurraider21]

Float the buoy
need that warp speed

[Spurtacular]

Not sure who wants war besides Bolton. But if you are going to approve a military strike, either do it or don’t. This makes the US look weak.

That's a convenient position. R/T intel may have made it prudent to not to do a strike. But if you're worried about him looking weak, then you should want to get rid of the swamp monsters that would leak such info.

[pgardn]

That's a convenient position. R/T intel may have made it prudent to not to do a strike. But if you're worried about him looking weak, then you should want to get rid of the swamp monsters that would leak such info.

That could be Trump himself.
He already outed Israeli assets to Russia.
And he has already bombed Syria.

Im laughing at people trying to turn this into something that makes sense.
Float the buoy, well he stopped the killing of 150 innocents... such BS excuses that we have some sort of competence in our president.

Oh look, he walked to the edge of the cliff, almost slipped, and then deftly walked back. Genius.
Gtfoh

[boutons_deux]

WTF does Trash/Bolton/Pompeo want from Iran?

what is Iran supposed to do to stop Trash's unprovoked aggression?

[Winehole23]

That's a convenient position. R/T intel may have made it prudent to not to do a strike. But if you're worried about him looking weak, then you should want to get rid of the swamp monsters that would leak such info.Transparency bad now.

Instead of noticing Trump's incompetence Spurtacular blames leakers for making the president look bad.

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

“Trump negotiates by coming out with maximalist demands and

acting like the craziest guy in the room, and

then getting a deal that he deems acceptable and spinning it as the greatest deal ever,”

“There is no advantage to nobody knowing what your goals are and

nobody believing you have goals,”

“There has to be a logic your counterparts can understand.

If you are giving them nothing,

there’s no way to get them to do what you want them to do.”

The chaos left even Trump’s allies and cheerleaders in the media confused.

In the hours after Trump called off the strikes, Tucker Carlson, a Fox News host who has advised the president on policy, praised him for resisting advisers who were “demanding a new war” with Iran.

The next day, Pete Hegseth, a host on “Fox & Friends,” the president’s favorite morning show, worried that Trump’s hesi#ta#tion would embolden Iran and make the United States “look weak.”

The president’s approach to Iran this week follows a pattern that could complicate the other foreign policy crises consuming the White House.

This spring Bolton suggested that Trump would be willing to use military force to drive Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro from power in favor of opposition leader Juan Guaidó, whom the president declared the legitimate leader of the country.

The growing realization that no one but Trump has a clear understanding of his policy or desired end state

makes it almost impossible for the rest of the government to function.

For allies in Europe or in Seoul, this confusion

“will just reinforce the belief that the only person that they should talk to in the [U.S. government] is the president,”

This approach to policy

“will make working-level negotiations impossible, which will then make the next summit substance-less,” Cha said. “It’s a vicious circle.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-dangerous-confusion-at-the-heart-of-trumps-foreign-policy/2019/06/21/58449cba-9455-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html?utm_term=.6647d41793f8&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-dangerous-confusion-at-the-heart-of-trumps-foreign-policy/2019/06/21/58449cba-9455-11e9-aadb-74e6b2b46f6a_story.html?utm_term=.6647d41793f8&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)

So Trash meeting Xi in a few days, with no "sherpas" having done any preliminary hard work, will be fruitless, barren, fucking zilch, followed by Trash lying about huge success, how Xi folded to manly Macho Man Trash.

"Trump has a clear understanding of his policy or desired end state"

:lol :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump Is Trapped by His Own Incoherent Iran Policy

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, a faithful Trump stooge, sought to defend his decision, saying,

“He has a long-term game plan here.” :lol :lol :lol :lol

For more than two years now, his Administration has been building up the pressure on Iran by withdrawing from the nuclear deal, employing aggressive rhetoric, and imposing ever-tighter economic sanctions.

“Now what we see is we are trapped

between the belligerent rhetoric of Trump towards Iran . . .

and the Donald Trump who said he didn’t want to get us into another war in the Middle East,”

“They are at a point of complete strategic incoherence.

They are saying they don’t want a war

but everything they are doing is making a war more likely.”

On Thursday night, Trump stepped back from the brink.

But the policy that got him into this mess is still firmly in place.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trump-is-trapped-by-his-own-incoherent-iran-policy?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_062219&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trump-is-trapped-by-his-own-incoherent-iran-policy?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_062219&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily)

[Spurtacular]

Transparency bad now.

Instead of noticing Trump's incompetence Spurtacular blames leakers for making the president look bad.

We're not at war. I'll take that W.

[Spurtacular]

That could be Trump himself.
He already outed Israeli assets to Russia.
And he has already bombed Syria.

Im laughing at people trying to turn this into something that makes sense.
Float the buoy, well he stopped the killing of 150 innocents... such BS excuses that we have some sort of competence in our president.

Oh look, he walked to the edge of the cliff, almost slipped, and then deftly walked back. Genius.
Gtfoh

He could easily be playing to a warhawk faction, tbh. Good chance he never intended to strike.

[FrostKing]

Stupid white supremacist - useful idiot - now finds himself in a pickle

his hatred of black president led him to be compromised by foreign agents who saw amerikkkan white supremacist supporters were the key to amerikkka destroying itself from the inside

the useful idiot’s greed $$$ allowed those foreign agents to buy him completely for their use

iran and amerikkka played like pawns

putin & mbs high fiving at their last meeting was aimed directly at stupid trump supporters
Hahah

[Winehole23]

We're not at war. I'll take that W.The result is good, the process by which it was obtained does not inspire confidence in DJT's management of foreign policy, or that the danger has passed.

[Spurtacular]

The result is good, the process by which it was obtained does not inspire confidence in DJT's management of foreign policy, or that the danger has passed.

That's a fair outlook.

[boutons_deux]

After Drone Shootdown, U.S. Struck Iranian Computers

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/after-drone-shootdown-u-s-struck-iranian-computers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Truthdig+Truthdig%3A+Drilling +Beneath+the+Headlines (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/after-drone-shootdown-u-s-struck-iranian-computers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Truthdig+Truthdig%3A+Drilling +Beneath+the+Headlines)

[Chris]

lol djohn


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142567481124503552?s=19

[Pavlov]

lol djohn


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142567481124503552?s=191142055388965212161

:lol How fast are the strike planes, Qhris?

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/velocidade-da-luz-gif-3.gif

[Spurtacular]

lol djohn


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142567481124503552?s=19

On top of that, he took action.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-approved-cyber-strikes-against-irans-missile-systems/ar-AADh6gv?ocid=spartanntp

:lmao Chumpettes looking for excuses to be triggered.

[pgardn]

He could easily be playing to a warhawk faction, tbh. Good chance he never intended to strike.

So he hired the Warhawk faction to play with them.

Thats good.
Good chance.

Can the excuses get any worse?

And if Trump is all in on a equal military response what should we do?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Carlson has been on point with his foreign policy opinions lately so that actually doesn’t bother me.

Pro Saudi opinion in any shape is not a good opinion if you actually believe that jihadism, Islamic extremism, and the actions of 9/11 are all evil. You're basically doing business with the mastermind who paid a pack of hitmen to kill your family.

[Millennial_Messiah]

We're not at war. I'll take that W.

As will Trump, because if he has to raise taxes to fund a full scale war he'll basically end up like Bush Sr in 1992.

[Winehole23]

As will Trump, because if he has to raise taxes to fund a full scale war he'll basically end up like Bush Sr in 1992.He'll follow the GWB playbook and fund it off the books. For for a few years in the early/mid 2000s the GOP neither submitted nor passed any budget bill.

[pgardn]

He'll follow the GWB playbook and fund it off the books. For for a few years in the early/mid 2000s the GOP neither submitted nor passed any budget bill.

Debt doesn’t matter to the red team anymore.

Unless ducks says so.

[boutons_deux]

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
I never called the strike against Iran “BACK,” as people are incorrectly reporting,
I just stopped it from going forward at this time!

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:lol Trash the semanticist! Planes were not scrambled and in the air?

Trash ignores the $Bs and terrorism by Saudi Arabia's Wahhabis, who reports say have been terrorizing for decades

Iran's oil? BigOil wants it.

SA's oil? BigOil has it.

Repugs have destabilized and terrorized the M/E and the planet 100x worse the Muslim terrorists.

Trash's evidence that Iran was building nuke weapons? Working assumption is that Trash is LYING

[benefactor]

The Folding

[Winehole23]

The Folding yeah, not hard to imagine the reax to BHO adopting this course.

Surrender, terrorist appeasement, hates America...

[boutons_deux]

Trash congratulates look-at-me for stopping what he started, lies about why he "stopped" it, and awaits the attention and praise

Total fraud

[Winehole23]

The Trump feint. Just pulled one of these in the tariff on Mexico.

The old fashioned word for this is brinksmanship.

[boutons_deux]

total Klown show

Pompeo says he wants to build a 'global coalition' against Iran

https://theweek.com/speedreads/848744/pompeo-says-wants-build-global-coalition-against-iran