The Safe Space of Keldon Jonhnson

[SpurPadre]

Low ceiling perhaps but he should be a solid contributor and is more NBA ready than Samanic.

[look_at_g_shred]

I’m safe

[BatManu20]

He can already shoot the 3 at a good clip and he plays D. Needs to get in the weight room and add some weight but I see a future solid rotation piece tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Shit, typo on the last name.

[SpurPadre]

He can already shoot the 3 at a good clip and he plays D. Needs to get in the weight room and add some weight but I see a future solid rotation piece tbh.

He can be our new LDN over time, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRo3QMZhXumBNK-P6CkW3rX5IA8VfnMS5pqHpUXpqh4RWSfyFs5

[Play Boban]

Me too.

[ceperez]

Interesting take... Suns may have drafted the wrong 'Johnson'.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019/6/21/18701649/did-phoenix-choose-the-wrong-johnson

See Coby White's reaction:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/nba-draft-coby-white-cam-johnson-bulls-suns-unc-reaction

[RC_Drunkford]

Interesting take... Suns may have drafted the wrong 'Johnson'.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019/6/21/18701649/did-phoenix-choose-the-wrong-johnson

See Coby White's reaction:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/nba-draft-coby-white-cam-johnson-bulls-suns-unc-reaction

:lmao

[ceperez]

Wait... maybe RC also made the same mistake, thinking this Johnson was a 6'9" forward... not a guard!

[ace3g]

BzRXiR1nv3F

[John B]

Interesting take... Suns may have drafted the wrong 'Johnson'.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019/6/21/18701649/did-phoenix-choose-the-wrong-johnson

See Coby White's reaction:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/nba-draft-coby-white-cam-johnson-bulls-suns-unc-reaction
:spin

[CGD]

This kid is going to be good for the team.

[Dejounte]

Hes barely taller than Lonnie in todays practice video

[venitian navigator]

Hes barely taller than Lonnie in todays practice video

and seems (from DDR trade rumors) that both could be used as our next (very) small forwards this coming season...

[Chinook]

Hes barely taller than Lonnie in todays practice video

He's barely taller than Lonnie in terms of combine measurements too. He's taller than PJ Tucker though. As noted before, Johnson's body's weirdly shaped. He has a standing reach of 8-8 despite being 6-6. That reach is only three inches shorter than Samanic's, but Luka is five inches taller and has a inch on Keldon in terms of wingspan. Actually, if Keldon is a two, he has the longest standing reach of any SG. It wouldn't be true to say that Johnson's reach makes him not undersized to play the three. He's below average there too. But there are SFs and even PFs he beats out like Cam Johnson and Brandon Clarke. His strength and bulk seem like more important factors to consider rather than his height. That said, he might not be able to start unless he can move down to SG, and let's just say I hope that there will be at least two guys on the team that deserve to play there more than him.

[Dejounte]

He's barely taller than Lonnie in terms of combine measurements too. He's taller than PJ Tucker though. As noted before, Johnson's body's weirdly shaped. He has a standing reach of 8-8 despite being 6-6. That reach is only three inches shorter than Samanic's, but Luka is five inches taller and has a inch on Keldon in terms of wingspan. Actually, if Keldon is a two, he has the longest standing reach of any SG. It wouldn't be true to say that Johnson's reach makes him not undersized to play the three. He's below average there too. But there are SFs and even PFs he beats out like Cam Johnson and Brandon Clarke. His strength and bulk seem like more important factors to consider rather than his height. That said, he might not be able to start unless he can move down to SG, and let's just say I hope that there will be at least two guys on the team that deserve to play there more than him.

I agree Keldon's standing reach is important when looking at what and who hes capable of guarding and the kind of defender he projects to be.

Generally i think:
Height = matters least if your wingspan or standing reach is above average, you dont guard people with your head
Standing reach = useful as in when the opposing player is going to take a shot over you, they will have to arc it higher thus if a defender has good measurements with this and is a good defender, theoretically whoever theyre guarding should have low fg%. Derrick White has an exceptional standing reach for a point guard no?
Wingspan = important for steals, disrupting passing lanes (Kawhi/ Dejounte)

So i think Keldon projects to be a positional defender (like Danny Green and Derrick White) for the wing spots (sg/sf) vs someone who wreaks havoc on passing lanes like Dejounte and Kawhi

[FlAVaK]

1143624717145923585

[cutewizard]

:hungry:

[phxspurfan]

Interesting take... Suns may have drafted the wrong 'Johnson'.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019/6/21/18701649/did-phoenix-choose-the-wrong-johnson

See Coby White's reaction:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/nba-draft-coby-white-cam-johnson-bulls-suns-unc-reaction


The Coby White reaction was pretty fake IMO. He was surprised dude went that high as a role player with 4 years in college. Maybe Suns FO really did fuck up :lol

[Blackhaus]

I think that was a real reaction, the dude doesn’t seem very bright (athletes don’t go to class at UNC).

[NASpurs]

Wrong thread :lol

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1159962564496936960

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1159962564496936960

:tu

[phxspurfan]

The Forgotten Spur (tm)

[exstatic]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1159962564496936960

He’ll probably sell more shoes than the mute cancer.

[Em-City]

Can we get the spring right on the thread title

[phxspurfan]

He’ll probably sell more shoes than the mute cancer.

True story I went into Foot Locker and asked if they had New Balance, like Kawhi's and they just laughed like no, we don't carry that, maybe in women's lol

[ace3g]

B0609ronL_i

[Truth4sale$]

If he comes to work and competes and listens, I do t care about the measurables. Spurs got some good young players on the team. Not sure if any of them can develop into franchise superstars....time will tell

[ace3g]

3 dunks from Keldon Johnson at the Rookie Photoshoot - 5:24 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCnuGrDhBfs

[DJR210]

3 dunks from Keldon Johnson at the Rookie Photoshoot - 5:24 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCnuGrDhBfs

The 3rd one was nice..

[ace3g]

Pop implementing new defensive tactics for today's social media generation.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEgVqz_XUAAeNF3?format=jpg&name=large

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1178094040065204224

[Dverde]

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1178094040065204224

He already has a logo. Graphic design artist must be feasting on all these dumb athletes.

[TimDunkem]

^KJ is dumb now?

[J_Paco]

He already has a logo. Graphic design artist must be feasting on all these dumb athletes.

So, only superstars should benefit from the NBA and create their own logo/branding? Seems like he's being proactive and attempting to maximize his earning potential (off the court).

[Dverde]

He almost dropped out of the first round. I don’t think he needs to work on his brand, he needs to work on his game.

[r0drig0lac]

He already has a logo. Graphic design artist must be feasting on all these dumb athletes.

?

[Maddog]

He almost dropped out of the first round. I don’t think he needs to work on his brand, he needs to work on his game.

Yeah
Interesting if you go back 10+ years the strongest predictor of having a decent NBA career when drafted at 29 is that the Spurs selected you.,
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/draft_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=&year_max=&round_min=&round_max=&pick_overall_min=29&pick_overall_max=29&franch_id=&college_id=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&is_active=&is_hof=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=ws

[exstatic]

He almost dropped out of the first round. I don’t think he needs to work on his brand, he needs to work on his game.

Teams are often stupid. He was projected as late lottery, or just outside. Just because teams do stupid things like selecting quietly acknowledged coke head Nassir Little ahead of him doesn’t mean that he lacks game.

[J_Paco]

He almost dropped out of the first round. I don’t think he needs to work on his brand, he needs to work on his game.

Who says he can't do both and maximize his earning potential? Negative, trolling idiots like you on a message board?

I think he'll be okay, especially when undrafted players like Fred VanVleet and unheralded picks like Spencer Dinwiddie are taking the initiative to build their brands.

[Pavlov]

Yeah
Interesting if you go back 10+ years the strongest predictor of having a decent NBA career when drafted at 29 is that the Spurs selected you.,
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/draft_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=&year_max=&round_min=&round_max=&pick_overall_min=29&pick_overall_max=29&franch_id=&college_id=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&is_active=&is_hof=&c1stat=&c1comp=gt&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=ws:lol people just looking for reasons to kvetch.

[exstatic]

:lol people just looking for reasons to kvetch.

Spurskvetch.com

[TimDunkem]

He almost dropped out of the first round. I don’t think he needs to work on his brand, he needs to work on his game.

Huh? Talk about a false choice. You can do both.

[Sugus]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbagleague/status/1193017149939470337

Big Body Keldon ripping it up to start the G-League. Johnson had a statline of 27 PTS | 8 REB | 3 AST | 12-14 FG.

[Mugen]

Kid has looked good since being drafted. Excited for him to hand out gatorades to shittier players during his rookie contract.

[Dverde]

I am really looking forward to seeing him play in the NBA in 2021.

[EasyMoney]

Can't wait to see him play behind Marco when he resigns for 30m next year because of his loyalty to the franchise

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Kid has looked good since being drafted. Excited for him to hand out gatorades to shittier players during his rookie contract.

[GB20]

Luka Samanic reminds me Manu with his passing skills.

[SpurPadre]

I am really looking forward to seeing him play in the NBA in 2021.

And getting yanked out after fucking up 1 minute on the floor...

[daslicer]

It's a good sign when draft picks dominate the G-league. Usually it means the player has a good chance of at least being solid in the NBA.

[UZER]

It's a good sign when draft picks dominate the G-league. Usually it means the player has a good chance of at least being solid in the NBA.

After I dick them around for 3 more years.

:pop:

[Floyd Pacquiao]

If brad Stevens where coaching this team he'd have him out there starting and playing elite 3 and D

[r0drig0lac]

I am really looking forward to seeing him play in the NBA in 2022.

fixed

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1195743652854804480

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1195743652854804480

https://media.giphy.com/media/dpnfPvaCIHBrW/giphy.gif

[Kurgan]

If brad Stevens where coaching this team he'd have him out there starting and playing elite 3 and D

He has yet to make a three in G-League. His three point shot was always inconsistent on Kentucky. I do think he's ready to see some time on the main roster(anyone is better than Marco at this point). He's probably the most NBA ready Spur youngster. Luka has the higher ceiling though but he's not strong enough yet. Maybe next year.

[SpurSpike]

Perhaps with all the losses Pop will actually play him? Time to shake things up.

[Dejounte]

Im excited about Keldon. Dude is probably our most talented paint penetrator.

[CGD]

They need someone who can help make a stop on D...

[TD 21]

Another 3 phobic, tunnel vision Spurs prospect, replete with unimpressive physical tools and delusions of grandeur.

Can this organization draft/develop a modern archetype or is that too much to ask because of what happened 5-15 years ago?

[EasyMoney]

Perhaps with all the losses Pop will actually play him? Time to shake things up.


Shake things up? You mean we finally see Marco crack the 25 minute mark?

[jeebus]

Pop wanted another guard on the bench to cheer on Marco as he gets lost on defensive assignments.

[wildcardX]

Pop wanted another guard on the bench to cheer on Marco as he gets lost on defensive assignments.


Yeah Marco needs the love. Metu, Carroll, and Walker are not enough of a cheering section.

[paperboy77]

That’s what someone that wants it is supposed to do. Let the coach tell you to tone it down. They won’t.

[Maddog]

Like the intensity
Looks rather small.

[Dejounte]

Like the intensity
Looks rather small.

Better duck or TheDrewShow will be coming for you

[timvp]

Using pics with odd perspective to estimate players' heights was fun to do back in second grade, tbh.

[Prime BEEF]

KJ was measured at 6’5” w/o shoes at the draft. But standing reach and wingspan are the important measurements

[duncan2150]

He was a 6'6 with shoes with a 6'9.25 wingspan and 8.8 standing reach at the draft combine. He has a very good body for a two, a little bit short for a a three imo but the wingspan is there.

[ZeusWillJudge]

:pop: "Thanks for stopping by, Keldon. Be careful on the drive back to Austin."

[ChumpDumper]

Using pics with odd perspective to estimate players' heights was fun to do back in second grade, tbh.lol so weird. His measurements are there for everyone to see.

[Sugus]

Keldon's way overdue for either some minutes with the Spurs, or a coaching scheme change in Austin. He's getting like 25ppg, we've all seen how he can penetrate and attack the rim and GL players cannot guard him. Either put him in front of real NBA defenses so he gets picked and knows what to work on, or make him transition his game to mid-range and long-range shooting in Austin to develop further aspects of his game. Sickening that Pop won't do either but will happily bring him alongside the team, to watch from the bench, like he couldn't catch the fucking games at home and sitting next to his outdated ass is any good for Keldon.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Keldon's way overdue for either some minutes with the Spurs, or a coaching scheme change in Austin. He's getting like 25ppg, we've all seen how he can penetrate and attack the rim and GL players cannot guard him. Either put him in front of real NBA defenses so he gets picked and knows what to work on, or make him transition his game to mid-range and long-range shooting in Austin to develop further aspects of his game. Sickening that Pop won't do either but will happily bring him alongside the team, to watch from the bench, like he couldn't catch the fucking games at home and sitting next to his outdated ass is any good for Keldon.


If the team can't risk a few minutes for a young prospect with a 20 point lead against the Suns, any talk about the postseason is totally meaningless.

[RC_Drunkford]

we just need some Beli and Forbes injuries

[Sugus]

If the team can't risk a few minutes for a young prospect with a 20 point lead against the Suns, any talk about the postseason is totally meaningless.

That's the sickening part tbh. When we're up 20, Pop doesn't play the deep bench. When we're losing that lead, Pop keeps playing stupid lineups, so once the game is more or less tied you know the rookies aren't getting PT that game, and wether we win or lose there's nothing to be gained. The Spurs in that regard are in the worst possible position - not good enough to blow teams out and play young guys, not bad enough to get blown out and play the young guys. Disgusting.

[dbestpro]

They need to teach him to shoot the three. Otherwise he will be nothing more than a rotational player in todays nba.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

He has zero offensive game. He's atleast another year away from being helpful

[RC_Drunkford]

They need to teach him to shoot the three. Otherwise he will be nothing more than a rotational player in todays nba.

they need to have him work on jump shots period. All he does in the G-League is overpower people. That won't work in the NBA. Kid needs to be a better shooter and after that teach him some post moves. He has a pretty decent shot though, so I think he will be able to crack the rotation next year, but he needs to get more consistent with it. Right now his buckets come too easy

[cd98]

Yes, he can get his runners in the G League, but can he get that shot consistently in the NBA? Not sure. He needs more of a jumpshot to make the leap from the G-League to the NBA.

[look_at_g_shred]

He has zero offensive game. He's atleast another year away from being helpful
I'd rather have him than Beli out there. We are not winning with either on the court but at least KJ would get NBA reps.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I'd rather have him than Beli out there. We are not winning with either on the court but at least KJ would get NBA reps.
Tbh both are useless. I like Pop's strategy of easing the projects into role players in the Gleague. It's been working. Especially for a player like KJ who needs almost a complete overhaul of his game.

[Truth4sale$]

they need to have him work on jump shots period. All he does in the G-League is overpower people. That won't work in the NBA. Kid needs to be a better shooter and after that teach him some post moves. He has a pretty decent shot though, so I think he will be able to crack the rotation next year, but he needs to get more consistent with it. Right now his buckets come too easy

I agree. Keldon is all power drive to the basket. Sort of inflated numbers. Yes, it is impressive against a lower tier but he needs a better jump shot. It has been slowly improving, but he has to hit 5 of 8 from beyond the arch in a couple of games, or else he defenders will play him for the drive everytime ,which will lead to a offensive foul. I also don't see him play great individual defense, his help defense is ok. But he ain't shutting people down either. Next year, not this year unless the spurs fall to the 11th spot in late March.
Still might not play next year, could still be a glutton of guards/forwards. Depends on who stays and goes between Forbes, Belineli, and Derozan

[ceperez]

I agree. Keldon is all power drive to the basket. Sort of inflated numbers. Yes, it is impressive against a lower tier but he needs a better jump shot. It has been slowly improving, but he has to hit 5 of 8 from beyond the arch in a couple of games, or else he defenders will play him for the drive everytime ,which will lead to a offensive foul. I also don't see him play great individual defense, his help defense is ok. But he ain't shutting people down either. Next year, not this year unless the spurs fall to the 11th spot in late March.
Still might not play next year, could still be a glutton of guards/forwards. Depends on who stays and goes between Forbes, Belineli, and Derozan

He's as raw as Lonnie last year. Not likely going to play this year.

Lonnie shot 36% from range, Keldon is at 23%.

Keldons FG% however is much higher. But maybe he's much bigger than Lonnie and is just bullying his way in the G-league.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1222191940076298240

[ZeusWillJudge]

Lonnie shot 36% from range, Keldon is at 23%.

Keldons FG% however is much higher. But maybe he's much bigger than Lonnie and is just bullying his way in the G-league.


Keldon turned a corner in early December. He's shooting 34% from 3P since then. Volume is still a question mark.

The Spurs have a lot of young guys who get deep into the paint but can't finish. I talked about it in the game thread just last night. Keldon seems to be better in that department. Won't know until/unless he plays against the same level of competition.

It's not always a question of whether he is a complete player. Is he better than some of the other players they have? If he is, that's an improvement. Why would you not make an improvement?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Is it outside the realm of possibility that Pop Gives DDR a "rest day" Like he did for LMA and Keldon gets some real time? I can still see him giving the day off to Demar but playing the shit out of Belli


He might. But even that is so unfair. One game. If the guy presses and has a bad night, people say that he's not ready and he starts having doubts. If he has a great night, he's getting sent back to Austin anyway, and starts thinking WTF do I have to do?

I'm just getting so worn out, and I'm just a fan. Think how some of these players must feel. Not Bryn - I'm sure he loves it.

[Dejounte]

Keldon working with Tim on his post moves. This gets me excited.

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1222569239808237568?s=19

I hope Keldon takes his work ethic to Kobe levels.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Am I the only one who can't help but notice how everybody's favorite Bryn ins't trying to notice the chemistry Keldon has with Timmy?

The FAKE NECK CRACK MOVE....

Stalkers Go to maneuver

:lmao


Umm......you concluded that from one frame? Show us the whole clip motherfvcker. I want to see Bryn rolling his eyes and giving that pouting baby look of his to Timmy.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

What I noticed in that picture is that Tim is a giant next to Keldon. Not sure who he's going to be posting up. The league's midgets both wear silver and black.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Bryn and LWIV need to get off their asses and start practicing. They've been sitting there the whole time I've been analyzing TheDrewShow's post...not even moving. Brynn is stuck in mid-KJ-envy neck crack.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Firstly GO FUCK YOUR RUDE SELF with your MOTHER FUCKERS....

I thought you could just click the link and see for yourself... ASSHOLE...

A simple "wrong" would have sufficed. You're kind of the Forrest Gump of analysis with your really odd conclusions on Bryn's reactions, AND you're messing up my Black Panther party with your anger issues. Simmer down, my boy.

[ismael-robert]

Dude u did call him a mf'er first

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Dude u did call him a mf'er first

Please...it was said with love. And there's a "v" in there, so technically I didn't say it at all. I was typing "mother maker" and my fingers slipped on my keyboard. It was all a case mistaken mother-dentity.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsSW/status/1222691994285355008

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsSW/status/1222691994285355008

Sounds like DeMar doesnt really talk to him much.

[Seventyniner]

Keldon working with Tim on his post moves. This gets me excited.

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1222569239808237568?s=19

I hope Keldon takes his work ethic to Kobe levels.

Kobe had a legendary work ethic. If Keldon has even half of that the Spurs got a steal.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

What the deal, you started posting on a Godam Spurs Fiodonet List from the days of BBSing with the obscure name of a Spurs Player who barely played for the team in the early eighties.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/11/Animated_GIF_from_Home_Video_of_a_User_Reading_a_M essage_on_Benj_Edwards_BBS_in_1996_by_Benj_Edwards/4cbbbb274.gif..


Is the Shtick you're supposed to be him? I don't know if he was a militant dude or not. Don't care.

You continued with this Persona over the decades from Usenet groups, to forums, then found some type of cred here nearly 20 years ago. I'm thinking at one point you were interesting insightful and used your wealth of knowledge. Now you're just a Boomer who says one or two line nonsense and gibberish living off this perceived old rep, doesn't know how to use twitter. Tell me, has this persona merged with your RealWorld existence? I can only picture a tiny Asian man talking like the brotha's on Airplane.


Later.


What’s a boomer? Hopefully I didn’t impregnate your mom all those years ago. PM me so we can make sure you don’t owe me some Father’s Day cards.

I’m concerned about your anger issues, my son. If it’s any consolation I didn’t know you existed until today.

Once again, sorry to upset you, you cute little mother maker.

[C-Dub]

P.J. Washington and T. Herro both made the Rising Stars Event during this years Allstar Break. Keldon Johnson is just as good as both those guys he played with while at Kentucky but haven't sniffed NBA minutes at all and will be behind those 2 guys in development. No way he shouldn't be getting some minutes in the NBA with the way the Spurs are playing this year. Keldon and Lonnie should pull a Claw move and leave the Pop. Pop has a huge Ego problem and the older you are the more you want attention and I'm referring to Pop. Postgame interviewers should boycott asking Pop questions. Guaranteed Pop wouldn't know what to do. He needs to get over himself and that's not happening anytime soon.

[RC_Drunkford]

P.J. Washington and T. Herro both made the Rising Stars Event during this years Allstar Break. Keldon Johnson is just as good as both those guys he played with while at Kentucky but haven't sniffed NBA minutes at all and will be behind those 2 guys in development. No way he shouldn't be getting some minutes in the NBA with the way the Spurs are playing this year. Keldon and Lonnie should pull a Claw move and leave the Pop. Pop has a huge Ego problem and the older you are the more you want attention and I'm referring to Pop. Postgame interviewers should boycott asking Pop questions. Guaranteed Pop wouldn't know what to do. He needs to get over himself and that's not happening anytime soon.

:pop: "He's not ready. Bryn and Marco are better than him"

[Mr. Body]

P.J. Washington and T. Herro both made the Rising Stars Event during this years Allstar Break. Keldon Johnson is just as good as both those guys he played with while at Kentucky but haven't sniffed NBA minutes at all and will be behind those 2 guys in development. No way he shouldn't be getting some minutes in the NBA with the way the Spurs are playing this year. Keldon and Lonnie should pull a Claw move and leave the Pop. Pop has a huge Ego problem and the older you are the more you want attention and I'm referring to Pop. Postgame interviewers should boycott asking Pop questions. Guaranteed Pop wouldn't know what to do. He needs to get over himself and that's not happening anytime soon.

Maybe he's not as good as them. Shocking.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1223653105407053829

[313]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1223653105407053829
I like that he’s taking a lot threes, he knows it’s make or break in the league right now

[wildbill2u]

What the deal, you started posting on a Godam Spurs Fiodonet List from the days of BBSing with the obscure name of a Spurs Player who barely played for the team in the early eighties.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/11/Animated_GIF_from_Home_Video_of_a_User_Reading_a_M essage_on_Benj_Edwards_BBS_in_1996_by_Benj_Edwards/4cbbbb274.gif..


Is the Shtick you're supposed to be him? I don't know if he was a militant dude or not. Don't care.

You continued with this Persona over the decades from Usenet groups, to forums, then found some type of cred here nearly 20 years ago. I'm thinking at one point you were interesting insightful and used your wealth of knowledge. Now you're just a Boomer who says one or two line nonsense and gibberish living off this perceived old rep, doesn't know how to use twitter. Tell me, has this persona merged with your RealWorld existence? I can only picture a tiny Asian man talking like the brotha's on Airplane.


Later.

One of you guys has been stalking the other for decades. It's kinda creepy.

[Dejounte]

So Keldon is staying with the Spurs to learn from all the vets, I see...

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1223653105407053829

maybe he can learn something from Pau Gasol as well since he's still getting paid 5 million

[Dejounte]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8DC38dpWAd/?igshid=1f73q079laal1

Man, this is one of the funniest clips this season. The future is going to be fun.

[ace3g]

I liked that something he has been doing consistently in the G-league: driving to the basket, taking the contact and still being able to finish - translated to the big leagues.

[sasaint]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8DC38dpWAd/?igshid=1f73q079laal1

Man, this is one of the funniest clips this season. The future is going to be fun.

So, are they sarcastically miming drinking the Pop kool-ade?

[exstatic]

P.J. Washington and T. Herro both made the Rising Stars Event during this years Allstar Break. Keldon Johnson is just as good as both those guys he played with while at Kentucky but haven't sniffed NBA minutes at all and will be behind those 2 guys in development. No way he shouldn't be getting some minutes in the NBA with the way the Spurs are playing this year. Keldon and Lonnie should pull a Claw move and leave the Pop. Pop has a huge Ego problem and the older you are the more you want attention and I'm referring to Pop. Postgame interviewers should boycott asking Pop questions. Guaranteed Pop wouldn't know what to do. He needs to get over himself and that's not happening anytime soon.
Pop wouldn’t care at all. He hates doing the pressers anyway, which is why he’s such a dick to them.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP0peL5XUAEWkgA?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPzh0lOX0AI4Ky0?format=jpg&name=large

[exstatic]

I love that they’re taking Keldon (and Metu?) on the RRT. I think that Derrick got to go during his Austin year, but Lonnie did not, last year. Maybe this lights a fire under Luka’s butt, being left in the minors.

[NASpurs]

^^^

One more year of getting over himself in Austin and Keldon be good enough to carry Forbes' luggage to the team's plane.

[Dejounte]

Next superstar.

Damn I knew I should have gotten his jersey instead of White's. Just kidding, I trolled him on social media when he was first drafted calling him short. He blocked me lol

[SpurPadre]

^^^

One more year of getting over himself in Austin and Keldon be good enough to carry Forbes' luggage to the team's plane.

It would have to be him because Luka's T-Rex arms wouldn't be able to bend down and grab hold of the luggage, tbh.

[Thomas82]

Did Keldon grow another inch or two? It looks like it.

[Dejounte]

https://i.imgur.com/CNArse0.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/rqgdqzc.jpg

Then Lonnie Walker must be six foot two,

Considering the Demo ya'll dopes with this bullshit short troll thing are probably 5 foot tall 5 foot wide, 5x5 MEXICANTS
just because the manager/grader of this forum and is "eye test" bs made you feel some kind of way about it, or you're just parroting him

Bruh chill out. Im a huge Keldon fan

[Sugus]

:pop: So he made an all-GL team? I see, he must really like it there! Maybe another season in Austin is exactly what he needs...

[venitian navigator]

Before coming to the big team KJ needs at least to start hitting his threes at a high percentage at the G league level...considering he's already good going at the rim and playing defense at that same level.

[look_at_g_shred]

Before coming to the big team KJ needs at least to start hitting his threes at a high percentage at the G league level...considering he's already good going at the rim and playing defense at that same level.
DDR/LMA/Murray/White say Hi

[exstatic]

DDR/LMA/Murray/White say Hi

Aldridge 41.4%
Murray 37%
White 35.6%

All three at or above league average.

[look_at_g_shred]

Aldridge 41.4%
Murray 37%
White 35.6%

All three at or above league average.
But it's selective. volume needs to be up in order for the percentage to matter.

[exstatic]

But it's selective. volume needs to be up in order for the percentage to matter.

vn only mentioned percentage, and you clapped back on that, and are now introducing another variable, volume, and essentially moving the goalposts.

[look_at_g_shred]

vn only mentioned percentage, and you clapped back on that, and are now introducing another variable, volume, and essentially moving the goalposts.
Yeah you are right, I should've specified on the initial post. The point is, a good percentage does not matter if the volume is low.

[exstatic]

Yeah you are right, I should've specified on the initial post. The point is, a good percentage does not matter if the volume is low.

It's better than a DeRozan low volume bad percentage.

[pad300]

Yeah you are right, I should've specified on the initial post. The point is, a good percentage does not matter if the volume is low.

Not true on an individual level. Decent to good percentage on a low volume means that's it's not your preferred shot, but if people simply pack the paint and don't come out to defend the perimeter, they pay... Unlike the example of Derozan - poor percentage on low volume - where defenders simply back off and wait for the drive.

On a team level, yes some volume is needed, but that can be from 2 or 3 shooters who like the outside in a given lineup... 5 would be nice, but it's not necessary.

[DPG21920]

I have to say; I’m not overly excited about Keldon. He’s obviously way better than most G League players but I have my doubts about his role in the nba.

No brainer pick but as of now it’s hard for me to see the upside with him even though I love his energy and motor.

[SAGirl]

Not true on an individual level. Decent to good percentage on a low volume means that's it's not your preferred shot, but if people simply pack the paint and don't come out to defend the perimeter, they pay... Unlike the example of Derozan - poor percentage on low volume - where defenders simply back off and wait for the drive.

On a team level, yes some volume is needed, but that can be from 2 or 3 shooters who like the outside in a given lineup... 5 would be nice, but it's not necessary.
You have a good point.

I think my concern right now is that the team needs shooters that are better overall players than Pop's preferred Bryn, Marco and Patty lineups and Keldon definitely is not a volume shooter and right now even his shot is in question. I suspect he's reworked it and needs reps with the new shot but one never knows.

Either way, Spurs need to keep shopping for better shooters.

[JADG79]

Before coming to the big team KJ needs at least to start hitting his threes at a high percentage at the G league level...considering he's already good going at the rim and playing defense at that same level.

That's the Key problem with him, 85/19 (3p% 22.5) horrible. He is shooting but not hitting.
In modern NBA he cannot survive with that 3P%.

[duncan2k5]

That's the Key problem with him, 85/19 (3p% 22.5) horrible. He is shooting but not hitting.
In modern NBA he cannot survive with that 3P%.

So if Dwayne Wade was a rookie in this era, u would indefinitely keep him in the g league? And giannis is surviving pretty well to this point

[look_at_g_shred]

I have to say; I’m not overly excited about Keldon. He’s obviously way better than most G League players but I have my doubts about his role in the nba.

No brainer pick but as of now it’s hard for me to see the upside with him even though I love his energy and motor.
Give me that over someone oozing with talent that is lazy and uninspired

[exstatic]

That's the Key problem with him, 85/19 (3p% 22.5) horrible. He is shooting but not hitting.
In modern NBA he cannot survive with that 3P%.

I think he started like 0/25, or something. That's pretty hard to move upwards quickly.

[Dejounte]

Keldon staying at the Spurs gym all week per iam__3's instagram. Hes almost got that Kobe physique.

[ducks]

Calling him up now carol is toast

[exstatic]

Keldon staying at the Spurs gym all week per iam__3's instagram. Hes almost got that Kobe physique.

He’s a fucking tank. Don’t understand why peeps say he won’t finish at the rim in the NBA. Between his build and body control, he’ll be just fine. Last time on the floor for SA, within seconds, he drove right, threw his body into a defender, and got a bunny layup.

[ace3g]

He’s a fucking tank. Don’t understand why peeps say he won’t finish at the rim in the NBA. Between his build and body control, he’ll be just fine. Last time on the floor for SA, within seconds, he drove right, threw his body into a defender, and got a bunny layup.


Yep mentioned that right after the play - "good to see one of his strengths in the GLeague translated to the NBA."

[KobesAchilles]

He’s a fucking tank. Don’t understand why peeps say he won’t finish at the rim in the NBA. Between his build and body control, he’ll be just fine. Last time on the floor for SA, within seconds, he drove right, threw his body into a defender, and got a bunny layup.
Yeah I like him outmuscling players for cheapies like that but he needs to just keep on working on that 3 ball. I see no reason why he can’t be our PJ Tucker in 2 years.

[tholdren]

https://youtu.be/bkgc1oLDpgY

No Chip

NO PROBLEM

Lol nice 8 lbs kettle bells lol nba strength. Jesus

[EasyMoney]

I'm already sold on keldon. Dude shows no fear.

[Truth4sale$]

Keldon cant hit the three but he supposedly has a "dog" mentality. Spurs need somebody with that mentality. It is a shame a rookie will show the veterans(young and old ones) that hunger and hustle. It can be contagious. Bring him up now! Gotta shake things up

[exstatic]

Keldon cant hit the three but he supposedly has a "dog" mentality. Spurs need somebody with that mentality. It is a shame a rookie will show the veterans(young and old ones) that hunger and hustle. It can be contagious. Bring him up now! Gotta shake things up

?? Other than a few games with Austin to get some floor time, he's been "up" for the better part of a month now.

[look_at_g_shred]

?? Other than a few games with Austin to get some floor time, he's been "up" for the better part of a month now.
Me thinks he means permanently with consistent NBA minutes.

[wildbill2u]

Looks sorta like a honey badger out on the court, always hustling and scruffling, but not a lot of skills yet

[exstatic]

Looks sorta like a honey badger out on the court, always hustling and scruffling, but not a lot of skills yet

He did a decent job a couple of times down the court defending CP3 with the Harden technique, and finished strong on multiple occasions. 9p/3r/3a in 13 minutes speaks of some skills.

[Biggems]

Spend all summer on the 3 and adding a few lbs of muscle. Then, he can be the 3 and D guy we need desperately.

[TimDunkem]

Spend all summer on the 3 and adding a few lbs of muscle. Then, he can be the 3 and D guy we need desperately.

Yeah as a SG/part time 3. Not THE one and only. We still have 0 SFs on the team after all.

[Biggems]

Yeah as a SG/part time 3. Not THE one and only. We still have 0 SFs on the team after all.

I agree, we need 2 SFs, a great starter and a solid backup. Hopefully, we can find both in this draft.....mostly the starter though. Bring in Keldon as the 2nd SG off the bench, if he makes his stroke consistent.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I agree, we need 2 SFs, a great starter and a solid backup. Hopefully, we can find both in this draft.....mostly the starter though. Bring in Keldon as the 2nd SG off the bench, if he makes his stroke consistent.

Looks like Luka will be the 3 for the Spurs. His game translates more to a 3 than a 4.

[r0drig0lac]

Looks like Luka will be the 3 for the Spurs. His game translates more to a 3 than a 4.

maybe in modern teams like Toronto, Miami or Golden State, here we play micro ball full time. We had a perfect sf to adapt to any current formation (or in the history) with Davis Bertans and we simply used it as a salary dump, in SA we push our 2 to position 3 and our 3 to position 4, this is our thing.

[Dverde]

Looks like Luka will be the 3 for the Spurs. His game translates more to a 3 than a 4.

Second coming of Andrea Bargnini :lol

[ceperez]

Keldon cant hit the three but he supposedly has a "dog" mentality. Spurs need somebody with that mentality. It is a shame a rookie will show the veterans(young and old ones) that hunger and hustle. It can be contagious. Bring him up now! Gotta shake things up

I agree! We got bums like Aldridge and DeRozan to lead this team.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbVRrudk9AY

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbVRrudk9AY

Thanks Ace!

[B1gduff]

This Kid is going to something. He's the ideal sf with his size and strength. Can defend sf and probably a few pf. 3pt shot needs a bit of work, but he has a chance to be a solid 2-way player.

he also reminds be a bit of Khris Middleton

[Rosewood]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbVRrudk9AY The crazy video descriptions from DownToBuck is hilarious. He did one on Kyle Anderson a few years ago that made me laugh for a solid 5 minutes.

[TD 21]

I was initially skeptical of him because of the middling physical tools and lack of a strength, but he's the one young player with confidence, ruggedness and the determination to be something beyond just a guy. He's out there to make a difference and good or bad put his imprint on the game.

That doesn't mean he'll be a star (obviously highly unlikely), but I'm increasingly confident that whatever his ceiling is (Powell?), he'll reach it.



This Kid is going to something. He's the ideal sf with his size and strength. Can defend sf and probably a few pf. 3pt shot needs a bit of work, but he has a chance to be a solid 2-way player.

he also reminds be a bit of Khris Middleton

He's not the ideal SF. He's a 2.5, but a sturdy/stout enough one to play some small ball PF. The ideal SF is similar to Middleton. He's way different: long, lean, finesses oriented shooter.

[Dancelot]

I’ve always thought that he’s going to be the only good thing that came out of the kawhi trade.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1236420991254921216

[look_at_g_shred]

Legit NBA player. Dude has so much energy.

[RC_Drunkford]

This kid has a high ceiling. I expect him to work on his 3-point shooting during the offseason, which will make him a legit 3-and-D wing. But after that he can just work on developing his offensive arsenal like nephew did.

[acoelho1]

That defensive possession on Luka reminded me of Bowen.

[John B]

Kawhi 2.0 I hope he doesn’t have a greedy uncle. He’s more advanced than nephew at this staged.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Pop saying he likes what he sees with Keldon. No shit? Did he just not look at him before Tim put him in a game?

The boat is sinking, and he doesn't even notice the damn bucket sitting there? He was the GOAT once upon a time. Now he just needs to retire and drink wine.

[Collins21]

Nope has a Solid Father figure, his actual father and sweet mother. Kid doesn't need any type of father figures and his wise enough to seek out mentors. Since being called up he seems to be sticking next to Tim like glue. Good country kid. Not some new jack inner city kid who's papa was murdered, in jail, raised by the hood. You know like Kawhi and DDR

The hell are you talking about DeRozan was raised in Compton by a dad from the south for you to assume that he had a degenerate father is far from the truth. Both his parents have been sick most of his life. DeRozan a good guy his problem is he's weird and his emotions get the best of him and effect his play.

[Atl Spur]

Nope has a Solid Father figure, his actual father and sweet mother. Kid doesn't need any type of father figures and his wise enough to seek out mentors. Since being called up he seems to be sticking next to Tim like glue. Good country kid. Not some new jack inner city kid who's papa was murdered, in jail, raised by the hood. You know like Kawhi and DDR
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGcDVHvXYAEaljB?format=jpg&name=small

Here he is with his brother Kaleb who graduated from Georgetown, was in the same draft class. Kaleb wasn't drafted but did get drafted by the Austin Spurs in the G League Draft didn't suit up for the team.

You are joking right?

[4lifecowboy]

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1237508782504267776

Translation: I haven't tore him down yet and changed his game yet.

[exstatic]

Translation: I haven't tore him down yet and changed his game yet.

He started in on him last night, ripping into him and benching him for being late on a rotation that Forbes misses probably 4-5 times per game.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He started in on him last night, ripping into him and benching him for being late on a rotation that Forbes misses probably 4-5 times per game.

Yeah, I don't get Pop coddling of some guys this year (Forbes) and ripping others for essentially doing the same thing. I think the old man is losing touch. I don't see a single young Spur playing with consistent confidence.

[LurkingSpursFan]

Yeah, I don't get Pop coddling of some guys this year (Forbes) and ripping others for essentially doing the same thing. I think the old man is losing touch. I don't see a single young Spur playing with consistent confidence.

Well, Pop knows who Bryn is. He is already at his ceiling and the only reason he is starting is because of overrated spacing perception. With Lonnie and Keldon, Pop know sky is the limit if they put in the work and hence is harder with them.

[NickiRasgo]

I see some Westbrook/Beal of his game. Not saying they're good as those players but there a bit of comparison how he plays.

[tholdren]

Better than murray better than walker almost as good as forbes

[Atl Spur]

Well, Pop knows who Bryn is. He is already at his ceiling and the only reason he is starting is because of overrated spacing perception. With Lonnie and Keldon, Pop know sky is the limit if they put in the work and hence is harder with them.

Exactly........