Rudy Gay - 2019 Free Agent

[timvp]

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Rudy Gay
Position: SF/PF
Age: 32.9
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 230 pounds
College: UConn
Years Pro: 13
Status: Unrestricted Free Agent

Stats (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gayru01.html)

[JeffDuncan]

Last contract, $10 million and change.

I hope the Spurs can re-sign him at the same price, or near it. However, I don't think there's much chance he'll be significantly better in future years, than he was last season. Anything over, oh, $12 million would look a lot like one of PATFO's infamous loyalty contracts, rather than an earned contract.

[monty4329]

Besides White, and maybe LMA the last months of the season, did we have any other player with a better season?

Sign him July 1st, blank check.

[slick'81]

Hell retire a spur tbh

[playblair]

plz let him walk...........he is a ball stopper

[sananspursfan21]

He’s kinda got the Spurs by the balls on this one. He’ll be a good resign but for a lot more than he’s worth. Glad he’s got bird rights I spose

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Bracing myself for a three-year contract...

[mookie2001]

Least European style player in the history of the nba.

[Big Empty]

�� yep. It was cool at 7/10 million. A long term 3 year contract will screw us.
Bracing myself for a three-year contract...

[look_at_g_shred]

Thanks for everything. Good luck!

[GreekSpursfan]

I'm afraid we have to resign him, fuck.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

I wonder if all that Bogdonavich talk is merely posturing to affect the Gay negotiations?

[Drom John]

Correlating ESPN Real Plus Minus Wins to NBA salaries, Rudy Gay was worth $15,944,154 in value last year.

[JeffDuncan]

Correlating ESPN Real Plus Minus Wins to NBA salaries, Rudy Gay was worth $15,944,154 in value last year.

Well, there's a little comfort in that, if the Spurs do offer Gay significantly more. I hope PATFO can restrain themselves, and offer no more than 2 years, with the second year a team option. Gay's foot problems are probably not going away completely.

[phxspurfan]

Yes, Spur for the rest of his bball life.

[Mugen]

Besides White, and maybe LMA the last months of the season, did we have any other player with a better season?

Sign him July 1st, blank check.

Easily, one of the dumbest new posters on this board :lol

[DPG21920]

2 year MAX deal for Rudy with 2nd year only 2-3M guaranteed please. So basically he get his max salary year 1 + 2/3M in “year two” which ups his max for one year deal. I don’t think that one year total would be far off from what he would get if he signed a two year deal with another team since I don’t see anyone maxing him.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Easily, one of the dumbest new posters on this board :lol

Or his agent?

[cjw]

Max they can give him is $17.5 million in year one

[cjw]

Max they can give him is $17.5 million in year one

[ceperez]

I like his efficiency. But, he's a ticking time bomb, waiting for an injury to happen that'll take him into retirement.

[slick'81]

Thanks for everything. Good luck!


:lmaoHes not going anywhere

[John B]

He’s Spurs’ best 6th man. Can shoot over any defender, creates mismatches, high 3pt percentage. Other bench Mills/Bertans/Belli streaky and defense lisbility. Walker has yet to show his value and consistency. I don’t know if we see Samanic/Keldon. So Gay has the best value. I like Spurs bring in an athletic SF and backup PF/C that should help with the minutes and his legs fresh

[temujin]

I like his efficiency. But, he's a ticking time bomb, waiting for an injury to happen that'll take him into retirement.

[spurraider21]

i'm fine with keeping him going on short term deals. dont want to lock into 3 year deals or anything like that. ideally a 2 year deal with only a partial guarantee on the 2nd. but he'll get paid a healthy amount for year 1

[ZeusWillJudge]

2 year MAX deal for Rudy with 2nd year only 2-3M guaranteed please. So basically he get his max salary year 1 + 2/3M in “year two” which ups his max for one year deal. I don’t think that one year total would be far off from what he would get if he signed a two year deal with another team since I don’t see anyone maxing him.


I've been thinking they give him 2 plus a part-guaranteed third. I hope I'm wrong and they make a deal like yours.

[DPG21920]

I've been thinking they give him 2 plus a part-guaranteed third. I hope I'm wrong and they make a deal like yours.

My guess is that in free agency Rudy would be happy to get 12M per year, maybe 2-3 years. If it’s two years, 24M, then signing the 2 year deal I described gets Rudy 20.5M basically for one year. I think it’s a more than fair deal where Rudy can still cash in the same 2 year deal next year when he hits FA again with another team.

[ZeusWillJudge]

My guess is that in free agency Rudy would be happy to get 12M per year, maybe 2-3 years. If it’s two years, 24M, then signing the 2 year deal I described gets Rudy 20.5M basically for one year. I think it’s a more than fair deal where Rudy can still cash in the same 2 year deal next year when he hits FA again with another team.


It's like the draft. There's what I'd like to see the Spurs do, and what I think they might do. Your logic is sound - I've just got this feeling they are going to try and keep him in SA for two seasons.

[DPG21920]

It's like the draft. There's what I'd like to see the Spurs do, and what I think they might do. Your logic is sound - I've just got this feeling they are going to try and keep him in SA for two seasons.

I’d be fine with that - if that’s it. Means DeRozan/LMA core gets 2 full more years before the real changes. Or if DeRozan bounces Gay is still an expiring trade ballast. Just say no to anything year 3!

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Pass

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

He’s Spurs’ best 6th man. Can shoot over any defender, creates mismatches, high 3pt percentage. Other bench Mills/Bertans/Belli streaky and defense lisbility. Walker has yet to show his value and consistency. I don’t know if we see Samanic/Keldon. So Gay has the best value. I like Spurs bring in an athletic SF and backup PF/C that should help with the minutes and his legs freshYou forgot the part about how he sucks in the playoffs.

[Dex]

Money-wise, he is the best FA we can sign due to his Bird rights circumventing the cap. He had his ups-and-downs last season (who didn't?) but overall I was impressed with his production and his chemistry with the team.

His friendship with DeMar is worrisome though, considering the questions surrounding DeRozans contract situation. If the Spurs bring back Gay for 2 years, I feel like that puts more pressure on them to extend DDR.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Money-wise, he is the best FA we can sign due to his Bird rights circumventing the cap. He had his ups-and-downs last season (who didn't?) but overall I was impressed with his production and his chemistry with the team.

His friendship with DeMar is worrisome though, considering the questions surrounding DeRozans contract situation. If the Spurs bring back Gay for 2 years, I feel like that puts more pressure on them to extend DDR.

Why? Just because they are friends? Their contracts are totally independent of each other and if Rudy signs an extension and Demar doesn't it is not going to effect the way he plays basketball. That's just ridiculous.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

No more than 2 years!!!! I figure if his game falls off a cliff in the 2nd year of the deal he is a good expiring contract, so hopefully they don't sign him for any longer than that.

[wildbill2u]

He's going to have to move to full time PF so that takes him out of the starting rotation as long as LMA is healthy. Most people have him penciled in as starting at SF, but he's not as quick as he used to be or would need to be. That leaves us still looking for a SF
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[sasaint]

He's going to have to move to full time PF so that takes him out of the starting rotation as long as LMA is healthy. Most people have him penciled in as starting at SF, but he's not as quick as he used to be or would need to be. That leaves us still looking for a SF
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Pretty much the same as last year, the Spurs will play SF by unqualified committee. At least that is what I expect.

[SequSpur]

Correlating ESPN Real Plus Minus Wins to NBA salaries, Rudy Gay was worth $15,944,154 in value last year.

Minimum. He ain't worth that much... IDGAF what those stats say.

[EricB]

Minimum. He ain't worth that much... IDGAF what those stats say.


“I disagree with math”. Brilliant shorty.

[monty4329]

Easily, one of the dumbest new posters on this board :lol

Thanks, from you it is a compliment. This confirms how right I am.

[MaNu4Tres]

Money-wise, he is the best FA we can sign due to his Bird rights circumventing the cap. He had his ups-and-downs last season (who didn't?) but overall I was impressed with his production and his chemistry with the team.

His friendship with DeMar is worrisome though, considering the questions surrounding DeRozans contract situation. If the Spurs bring back Gay for 2 years, I feel like that puts more pressure on them to extend DDR.

Rudy Gays friendship w/ DeMar isn't going to make them do anything.

Spurs traded away Duncans best friends for years ( Antonio/Malik/Monty Williams).

But now they are going to extend DeMar because of Gay's friendship with him?

Gay isn't a long term piece either.

[SpurSpike]

Rudy is about to bend the Spurs over... He's got to know that he plays a position of great need for this team also the Spurs may have some competition in his fee agency. Rudy played well last year, I have a feeling lots of teams would be interested in a player like him and he may go after the money this time now that he is fully healed and feeling his old self again.

[look_at_g_shred]

Would rather spend money on stanley johnson who is almost 10 years younger.

[look_at_g_shred]

SJ fits the timeline of our young guys too.

[DPG21920]

Would rather spend money on stanley johnson who is almost 10 years younger.

Rudy is significantly better than SJ

[Legacy]

Give these guys a chance. GEEZZ!!

[slick'81]

So other then luka i guess gays our only pf right now?

[GreekSpursfan]

So other then luka i guess gays our only pf right now?


LMA is a pf and plays like a soft pf..

[Joseph Kony]

So other then luka i guess gays our only pf right now?

Bertans

[spurraider21]

Easily, one of the dumbest new posters on this board :lol


Thanks, from you it is a compliment. This confirms how right I am.
Mugen: 1
Random new poster (who is obviously a boomer as he is rocking a gervin avatar): 0

[RC_Drunkford]

Would make sense to overpay for him this season if the Spurs are indeed staying over the cap and then get him to sign a discount deal next year tbh

[Dejounte]

So other then luka i guess gays our only pf right now?

Big forwards (sf/pf)
Gay
Luka

Combo big (pf/c)
Aldridge
Metu

[GusT15]

Big forwards (sf/pf)
Gay
Luka

Combo big (pf/c)
Aldridge
Metu

Add Bertans and Poeltl in there so it seems less depressive/thin of a frontcourt

Combo Forwards
Gay
Bertans
Satanic

Combo Big
Aldridge
Metu

Center
Poeltl
Eubanks (2 way?)

[Dejounte]

Add Bertans and Poeltl in there so it seems less depressive/thin of a frontcourt

Combo Forwards
Gay
Bertans
Satanic

Combo Big
Aldridge
Metu

Center
Poeltl
Eubanks (2 way?)

He only asked for pfs, so thats what i listed. Bertans at pf is such a major liability and i hate putting him there.

[GusT15]

He only asked for pfs, so thats what i listed. Bertans at pf is such a major liability and i hate putting him there.

Bertans is a defensive liability both at SF and PF.Good hustle,but defensive deficiencies when checking slashing SFs,not enough core strength to check post PFs.And elite shooting on offense.That was always his player description.

Either way he's under contract and is a SF/PF.

[JeffDuncan]

Would make sense to overpay for him ...

That's just your enlarged liver talking, RC. Ignore it.

[wildbill2u]

2 years for 25 million with second year team option. Can you offer a player performance goals for additional payments?

[DPG21920]

2 year MAX deal for Rudy with 2nd year only 2-3M guaranteed please. So basically he get his max salary year 1 + 2/3M in “year two” which ups his max for one year deal. I don’t think that one year total would be far off from what he would get if he signed a two year deal with another team since I don’t see anyone maxing him.

Still could be exactly what they did. Let’s see the year 2 details

[Seventyniner]

Still could be exactly what they did. Let’s see the year 2 details

Since the Spurs only have Gay's Early Bird rights, isn't this about the most they could have offered him over 2 years? Of course we still have yet to hear about options and non-guaranteed money, but I would expect this to be fully guaranteed with no option, a concession for each side.

[DPG21920]

Since the Spurs only have Gay's Early Bird rights, isn't this about the most they could have offered him over 2 years? Of course we still have yet to hear about options and non-guaranteed money, but I would expect this to be fully guaranteed with no option, a concession for each side.

In wouldn’t be surprised if it’s fully guaranteed. However Rudy was rumored to be in the 9-12M range. So if SA gave him 1/20 functionally he easily comes out ahead next year in free agency. We will see.

[Seventyniner]

In wouldn’t be surprised if it’s fully guaranteed. However Rudy was rumored to be in the 9-12M range. So if SA gave him 1/20 functionally he easily comes out ahead next year in free agency. We will see.

Good point. I also am interested in hearing the details. I doubt we hear much about them before he actually signs the contract on July 6.