If HOU Lands Jimmy Butler...

[BatManu20]

Where do you rank them in the West?

Rumors are heating up that he’s their top target, and that they’re currently working a deal to move Capela & Gordon’s contracts to clear the space necessary to sign Jimmy. They’d have 3 stars but would lose some depth.


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[BatManu20]

I imagine a trade could/would look something like:


Houston receives: Jimmy Buckets

Boston receives: Clint Capela

Philly receives: Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, + draft pick

[BatManu20]

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[Russ]

I imagine a trade could/would look something like:

Houston receives: Jimmy Buckets

Boston receives: Clint Capela

Philly receives: Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, + draft pick

Deck chairs on the Titanic . . .

[Trainwreck2100]

I imagine a trade could/would look something like:


Houston receives: Jimmy Buckets

Boston receives: Clint Capela

Philly receives: Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, + draft pick

i can't see Ainge wanting Capela

[BatManu20]

PJ Tucker could also be moved but I’ve read that Houston wants to hang onto him since he’s a good role player on a cheap deal.

[GreekSpursfan]

If they lose both Capela and Gordon then we have to see who they target to replace Capela. Too soon to say anything at this point about their potential. Lets say they go after Brook Lopez, if they get him then they are the favorite to win the west imo.

[NASpurs]

Can Jimmy chuck 6 threes a game? Why is Morey abandoning the 3 ball?

[ducks]

Why would Boston make rockets be able to beat them ?
Ofcourse harden has ball 22 seconds throws it to butler with 1 on clock

[rjv]

i can't see Ainge wanting Capela

rumors are that boston is interested. they are definitely in need of a center.

[Nivek_ogre]

Butler is aging badly. Needs the ball in his hand and his defense is no longer there.

[baseline bum]

Where do you rank them in the West?

Rumors are heating up that he’s their top target, and that they’re currently working a deal to move Capela & Gordon’s contracts to clear the space necessary to sign Jimmy. They’d have 3 stars but would lose some depth.

They'd only have about $10 million in capspace after cap holds are figured in if they salary dumped Gordon and Capella. Their only chance at Butler is through getting Philly to trade him.

[Leetonidas]

They team was at its peak in 2018. Gutting their roster even further to add Butler, who isn't even a great fit and will be relegated to watching harden dribble the clock out and chuck step back threes, isn't really that concerning. Theyll have to likely trade Gordon tucker or Capella to get it done. And then they're left with minimum contracts to fill the roster out.

Spurs really dodged a bullet with CP3 tbh

[rjv]

They team was at its peak in 2018. Gutting their roster even further to add Butler, who isn't even a great fit and will be relegated to watching harden dribble the clock out and chuck step back threes, isn't really that concerning. Theyll have to likely trade Gordon tucker or Capella to get it done. And then they're left with minimum contracts to fill the roster out.

Spurs really dodged a bullet with CP3 tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

Losing both Gordon and Capela for Butler isn't that significant of a move IMO..

The West doesn't have any great teams, though, so they could still win it..

[Pavlov]

Are CP3 and Harden going to be able to coexist another full season?

[gambit1990]

one could argue the rockets are favorites in the west currently (with klay injured and kd injured and/or leaving).

[DPG21920]

Are CP3 and Harden going to be able to coexist another full season?

Jimmy can help that locker ro...:lmao I can’t

[gambit1990]

i think cp3 and jimmy would be fine. it’s their frustration towards harden that could cause an issue.

[Spurs Homer]

i can't see Ainge wanting Capela


What?

Capela is Robert Parish (number 00) - 2.0

[paperboy77]

Boston if they can add Kemba + Capella would make them beast of the east. Philly would be a close second with Gordon and Smart.

Houston getting Butler is an overrated move. Like someone said before me... Harden is still an issue. Plus one of the things that gives him great looks is chance he might lob to Capella. It’s not just great lobs by Harden. Capella is also great positioning himself for the lob.

I love Texas but really hate this version of the Rockets.

[Harry Callahan]

Morey has the patience of a squirrel on meth. How many times has he torn the roster apart to no avail. That dude should have been fired years ago.

[rasuo214]

3 ball dominant players and 2 (maybe 3) of them are locker room problems.

[Maddog]

Morey has the patience of a squirrel on meth. How many times has he torn the roster apart to no avail. That dude should have been fired years ago.

:rollin

He's like that guy in your organization that always has meetings because it looks like something is happening.

[r0drig0lac]

with James Harden as the best player, they would have the same status as all previous years: team with no title chances

[BD24]

Gordon is a big loss tbh. They would need to find someone to somewhat replace his role

[Ron Swanson]

Butler, CP3, and Harden. That’s a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

[cd98]

Butler, CP3, and Harden. That’s a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

Agreed. From all the reports, CP3 and Harden can't play with each other. Now you add Butler. Unless the NBA changes the rules to allow three balls on the court at once, this will only end in fights.

[sasaint]

I imagine a trade could/would look something like:


Houston receives: Jimmy Buckets

Boston receives: Clint Capela

Philly receives: Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, + draft pick

Almost looks like a trade engineered by the Celts.

[spurraider21]

everyone shit on ainge because he didnt trade the farm for AD, a guy whose agent said he does not intend to resign with boston... now they can end up snagging capela and kemba in FA

[timvp]

Butler is expensive for someone who will spend a majority of his time standing in the corner while Harden goes one-on-one, tbh.

[sasaint]

everyone shit on ainge because he didnt trade the farm for AD, a guy whose agent said he does not intend to resign with boston... now they can end up snagging capela and kemba in FA

Would be a huge offseason for the Celts.

[cd98]

Butler is expensive for someone who will spend a majority of his time standing in the corner while Harden goes one-on-one, tbh.

You don't think he'll be happy just being there to play defense? But my guess is he feels the same way as Chris Paul did when he had to stand in the corner on offense.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know how you would even build the perfect team around Harden..ideally, it's him + shooters and defenders, but then you ultimately run into the same issues as Houston does every year in the playoffs..

The coach is irrelevant, as well, as they fired McHale and then brought in D'Antoni, yet they don't even use the latter's system/style..

[sasaint]

Butler is expensive for someone who will spend a majority of his time standing in the corner while Harden goes one-on-one, tbh.


You are thinking in basketball terms - not Morey’s MO.

[Ocotillo]

Morey has the patience of a squirrel on meth. How many times has he torn the roster apart to no avail. That dude should have been fired years ago. He actually is the type of GM a lot of Spurstalk posters seem to want. Lot's of churn and burn. Just do something dammit.

[DJR210]

They team was at its peak in 2018. Gutting their roster even further to add Butler, who isn't even a great fit and will be relegated to watching harden dribble the clock out and chuck step back threes, isn't really that concerning. Theyll have to likely trade Gordon tucker or Capella to get it done. And then they're left with minimum contracts to fill the roster out.

Spurs really dodged a bullet with CP3 tbh

:lol we may have dove safely out of the way of the CP3 bullet, but ended up taking a DDR hollow point just before being able to get cover behind a car

[BillMc]

Team with terrible depth gets even more top heavy. Butler, Harden, and Paul all in the same locker room? Good times ahead.

[Dave_ET]

someone on BSPN was saying its most likely Butler's camp applying pressure to PHI to offer the max salary + years to him

I'm betting PHI pays him, can never be sure though

[Harry Callahan]

:lol we may have dove safely out of the way of the CP3 bullet, but ended up taking a DDR hollow point just before being able to get cover behind a car

You can't dodge a bullet when the muzzle is placed against your temple. A 40 grain 22 cal would take you out in that scenario. Don't even need a hollow point.

[Leetonidas]

:lol we may have dove safely out of the way of the CP3 bullet, but ended up taking a DDR hollow point just before being able to get cover behind a car

:lol true but at least that bum isn't a locker room cancer and is only on the books for another year. CP3s making 40+ million on average thru 2022 :wow

[Killakobe81]

:rollin

He's like that guy in your organization that always has meetings because it looks like something is happening.

I hate those type of managers, tbh

[BatManu20]

Gordon is a big loss tbh. They would need to find someone to somewhat replace his role

JJ Redick?

[BD24]

JJ Redick?
Naw. Gordon can create, reddick is just a spot up shooter tbh

[slick'81]

Hou will still probably be better then us next season

[cd98]

Naw. Gordon can create, reddick is just a spot up shooter tbh

JJ would work great in their system, but I don't think they can afford him as they are already out of money. And if he was taking less money, he'd probably just go to the Lakers who definitely could use him. But we are talking playing for the minimum because if the Lakers use that extra space for a third max deal, they won't have any money to fill out their roster.

[look_at_g_shred]

Hou will still probably be better then us next season
Well yeah because harden is better than anyone on the spurs' roster.

[tbdog]

I just want more stars going east. Lakers and Clippers are going for a max contract.

[cd021]

If they lose both Capela and Gordon then we have to see who they target to replace Capela. Too soon to say anything at this point about their potential. Lets say they go after Brook Lopez, if they get him then they are the favorite to win the west imo.

Rumor has it that its DeAndre Jordan.

[mo7888]

It looks like a net negative for Houston to me, even more reason to go all in on this season. As a bonus, things get tougher for nephew if he stays up north.

[GreekSpursfan]

Rumor has it that its DeAndre Jordan.

Dumb move if it is.

[tonight...you]

Well yeah because harden is better than anyone on the spurs' roster.
He is the truest example of a dual edged blade in this sport. He cuts both ways and I mean both for and against his team's goals.

[Marrow]

They will then have 3 guys that need that need the ball in their hands...I see them imploding after a move like this

4 to 8 seed at best especially with them sacrificing their depth

[FkLA]

I'd rather have both Capella+Gordon instead of only having Butler. They're idiots for not running it back with GS out of the picture.

[dbreiden83080]

About the same. He and Harden won't mesh. He needs to stay in Philly. That team is right for him, and the fans love him..

[YGWHI]

The good thing with Butler playing for Rockets and Kawhi with Lakers? We still have Suns, Pels and Kings in the West.

The Spurs will make playoffs every f*cking season with that type of teams in the Western Conference.

[YGWHI]

If Rocks are gonna shop Gordon and PJ Tucker...I wonder if there is a way the Spurs could get them. Because we really need a 3-point shooter with DJ Murray/Derozan/LMA trio on court, and a defender like Tucker.

[XDT76]

They will then have 3 guys that need that need the ball in their hands...I see them imploding after a move like this

4 to 8 seed at best especially with them sacrificing their depth

The team already have issue with CPE and Harden adding Butler will just make it worse.

[AlexJones]

I don't know how you would even build the perfect team around Harden..ideally, it's him + shooters and defenders, but then you ultimately run into the same issues as Houston does every year in the playoffs..

The coach is irrelevant, as well, as they fired McHale and then brought in D'Antoni, yet they don't even use the latter's system/style..

Him and MDA have a floor of 50 wins

[RC_Drunkford]

Rockets still don't realize that Harden is the problem. As long as he plays 1-on-1 iso ball and doesn't do shit off the ball, it doesn't matter how many other options you bring in. You'll never win. Harden made the finals once: As a 6th man

[Kurgan]

Rockets still don't realize that Harden is the problem. As long as he plays 1-on-1 iso ball and doesn't do shit off the ball, it doesn't matter how many other options you bring in. You'll never win. Harden made the finals once: As a 6th man

Harden was OKC's worst player in the finals too. Big time chokejob. Really frustrating cause he burned us in the previous series.

[BackHome]

Butler ain’t going to Houston :dizzy