Shams: Rudy Gay to Sign 2-yr/$32M Deal with Spurs

[BatManu20]

Short-term deal. Nice.

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[slick'81]

I called 15 so 16 isnt awful

[timtonymanu]

Jesus fucking Christ. Gonna be well earned money for him to miss a quarter of the season due to injuries, getting older, and being a no show against Denver.

[NASpurs]

Beaten :lol :pctoss

[BatManu20]

Jesus fucking Christ. Gonna be well earned money for him to miss a quarter of the season due to injuries, getting older, and being a no show against Denver.

I'll take the overpay on a short-term deal over 3 years any day tbh.

[NASpurs]

$16 mil a year :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

:throwup

[Ditty]

Money didn’t matter as long it was two years. Great contract but still don’ t like the player.

[cool cat]

Since we are over the cap already the amount didn’t matter we just needed the years to be low and it is so that’s a win.

[slick'81]

$16 mil a year :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


You had to see this coming nas.Even i predicted 2/30 was totally spurish

[BatManu20]

Beaten :lol :pctoss

We'll call it a tie tbh :lol

[Leetonidas]

Not bad. Only two years and a pretty tradeable contract. Free agent crop is pretty trash next summer anyway

[Genovaswitness]

PATFO :dizzy it’s a little too early to be drinking

[weebo]

That right there is the biggest free agency move the Spurs are making this offseason :lol

[baseline bum]

Better than the Gasol and Mills signings at least.

[Ron Swanson]

I'll take the overpay on a short-term deal over 3 years any day tbh.

[cd021]

Dollars, not years. Pretty good deal tbh. Not going over 2 years is fine.

[slick'81]

Better than the Gasol and Mills signings at least.


The years anyway

[NASpurs]

You had to see this coming nas.Even i predicted 2/30 was totally spurish

Yeah I get the we're over the cap comments so the $$$ didn't matter but fuck I wish we would had moved on.

[timtonymanu]

Maybe Vince Carter is available for the MLE, since he beat us with a game winner in the playoffs 5 years ago.

[r0drig0lac]

PAFTO finally learned, no 3-years contract for old players.

[DAF86]

Meh, 16 millions per year on a 2 years contract isn't bad. It's not like it makes a difference on our cap situation. 16 millions , 9 millions it's the same shit; we can only sign guys for the MLE anyways. The good news is that is only a 2 years contract.

[BatManu20]

To make y’all feel better... at least we’re not Charlotte :lol


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[TDomination]

The 2 year part is great. Thank you.

its about 3-4 million more per than I was hoping but I can live with it

[kobyz]

What an horrible off-season, I predict it only gonna get even more downhill from here..

[Dejounte]

Good signing. How much per year didnt matter

[PICK-N-ROLL]

Not bad. Only two years and a pretty tradeable contract. Free agent crop is pretty trash next summer anyway

When have the spurs ever traded a tradable contract?

[timtonymanu]

To make y’all feel better... at least we’re not Charlotte :lol


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I don’t get why this guy is coveted so much.

[Big P]

Yeah I get the we're over the cap comments so the $$$ didn't matter but fuck I wish we would had moved on.

If we moved on from Rudy, that means, we are under the cap by only about $5mil (no one will sign for that) and we lose the mle so like everyone said it's a win because of being only 2 years... paying him more or paying him less would not have mattered, it's the extra year we did not want....the main thing will be to see who we sign with the mle.

[TD 21]

Meh, 16 millions per year on a 2 years contract isn't bad. It's not like it makes a difference on our cap situation. 16 millions , 9 millions it's the same shit; we can only sign guys for the MLE anyways. The good news is that is only a 2 years contract.

Yeah, the overpay in salary could have been so that they could keep it strictly to 2 years, in which case it makes sense.

Also, let's face it: They probably needed him more than he did them and both positionally and by some advanced metrics, he rates as more valuable than DeRozan and to a lesser extent Aldridge. Granted, they're a lot more durable and have greater pedigree, but it wouldn't have made sense for them to make $28M and $24M respectively and him to make something like $12M.

[Dverde]

I figured it would be about 6 million too much. It was all about the MLE this offseason anyways.

[GreekSpursfan]

Its the two years i'm not expecting us to do anything tbh. We're not winning shit the two years left in DDR's contract so i consider this a good deal.

[slick'81]

Yeah, the overpay in salary could have been so that they could keep it strictly to 2 years, in which case it makes sense.

Also, let's face it: They probably needed him more than he did them and both positionally and by some advanced metrics, he rates as more valuable than DeRozan and to a lesser extent Aldridge. Granted, they're a lot more durable and have greater pedigree, but it wouldn't have made sense for them to make $28M and $24M respectively and him to make something like $12M.


Lets face it he had to make more then patty

[NASpurs]

If we moved on from Rudy, that means, we are under the cap by only about $5mil (no one will sign for that) and we lose the mle so like everyone said it's a win because of being only 2 years... paying him more or paying him less would not have mattered, it's the extra year we did not want....the main thing will be to see who we sign with the mle.

All good points but I just really want to move on from some players already. It's killing me :lol

[slick'81]

All good points but I just really want to move on from some players already. It's killing me :lol


Just pray this isnt a sign derozan is hanging around

[GB20]

Cool!! Two years is a good deal.

[timtonymanu]

All good points but I just really want to move on from some players already. It's killing me :lol

They can't even move on from Pau yet. :lol still paying him a salary next season

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs are the gift that keeps on giving.

[spurraider21]

its only 2 years and we were already gonna be above the cap both years in all likelihood anyway. we still have the full MLE so this doesn't move the needle much.

[Big P]

All good points but I just really want to move on from some players already. It's killing me :lol

lol...I'm with you, but I am glad they did not make another gasol mistake.

[Chinook]

This is fine. It means they should definitely be looking into extending Murray if they can save money by doing so, but besides that, there's little difference between $32 Million and, say, $25 Million in how the Spurs were going to operate. My thing is that this shouldn't be the last "big news" we hear from the team this off-season. They still need one or two major transactions to show they're taking this year seriously. I'm cool with them locking in Gay's role for the rest of the LMA/DMDR era. But that trio alone won't win the Spurs a title, even in what looks like it could be a down year league-wide.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Good contract. Money's irrelevant, they're not close to the tax.It won't affect other acquisitions. Great it's for 2 years. Perfect.

[Texas_Ranger]

so, when are we giving Mills contract extention?

[Dejounte]

If Kawhi signs with the Clippers, the championship is out for grabs for ANY playoff contending team.

[objective]

It's quite an overpay for him. Keeping him is nice, no more than 2 years is nice, but as the free agency period has drawn closer I doubt the market was there at more than 2/24. Classic 12:01 Spurs.

What impact could this have on the Murray extension?

Spurs will have a hard time convincing Rich Paul to take anything reasonable now. No way Murray takes less than 20 a year when an old, crumbling Gay gets 16. Even coming off the ACL.

Kind of how it made it hard for the Spurs to try and cheapskate down Kawhi from a super Max when they're giving $50 million to an unplayable Mills and paper $48 to a washed Pau.

[timtonymanu]

If the team can get rid of Beli at least, I can live with this. I'm with Chinook's point, the Gay signing only looks really bad if the Spurs go the old "oh we like what we have." I still don't think Murray and an improved Lonnie alone can mask the flaws of the rest of the roster. There's too many useless vets that are getting in the way of the younger guys.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs will have a hard time convincing Rich Paul to take anything reasonable now. No way Murray takes less than 20 a year when an old, crumbling Gay gets 16. Even coming off the ACL.


Don't think they'll bring Gay's contract in the negotiation, it's not relevant. Now, Rozier's new contract ... I think they'll look for something better than Rozier's and can't see the Spurs giving him an extension until next summer.

[slick'81]

We probably had to overpay to get him at 2 seasons.Its rudys last big deal and our core remains-lma,ddr,gay,mills

[Robz4000]

I'm fine with it since it's only two years.

[John B]

2 years a great deal and Semanic taking some of his minutes should keep his legs fresh. :toast:toast

[NASpurs]

If the team can get rid of Beli at least, I can live with this. I'm with Chinook's point, the Gay signing only looks really bad if the Spurs go the old "oh we like what we have." I still don't think Murray and an improved Lonnie alone can mask the flaws of the rest of the roster. There's too many useless vets that are getting in the way of the younger guys.

Man that's exactly where I'm at. Too many people in the way of Walker, Murray and White. Let those young horses run and get rid of the deadweight in front of them.

[Chinook]

It's quite an overpay for him. Keeping him is nice, no more than 2 years is nice, but as the free agency period has drawn closer I doubt the market was there at more than 2/24. Classic 12:01 Spurs.

What impact could this have on the Murray extension?

Spurs will have a hard time convincing Rich Paul to take anything reasonable now. No way Murray takes less than 20 a year when an old, crumbling Gay gets 16. Even coming off the ACL.

Kind of how it made it hard for the Spurs to try and cheapskate down Kawhi from a super Max when they're giving $50 million to an unplayable Mills and paper $48 to a washed Pau.

Murray was going to want more than this regardless. He's not signing an extension for less than $20M APY, I'd guess. Plus, the Spurs probably believe Gay is better than Murray and won't struggle to justify paying him a lot.

[Solid D]

Very glad this happened. Rudy saved the Spurs’ bacon numerous times last season.

[cjw]

Good to see most people in here get it. The people complaining about the money don’t understand how the cap works.

[dbestpro]

I see a trade coming in January.

[timtonymanu]

That post Big 3 era reality. :lol "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

I’m not sure if this is making lemonade or polishing a turd, so to speak. Ultimately, I call it a success based on the years. And on the macro level, it is cool how he has transformed from a low to high efficiency player. I never thought that would happen with him.

[TimDunkem]

That post Big 3 era reality. :lol "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."

Imagine how this board would have reacted in 2014 if we said our core in a few years would be DD/LMA Touches/ and post-ruptured achilles Rudy Gay.

[MoSpur02]

Those $32 million guaranteed?

[Collins21]

That post Big 3 era reality. :lol "Rudy Gay saved us from being no lower than a 7th seed in the West. He had to be brought back."

People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last title in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.

[Trill Clinton]

You know it's a good deal when ST is raging.

[Seventyniner]

We need a good long look at the list of 2021 FAs.

[TimDunkem]

People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last title in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.

Because this FO consistently failed to put decent pieces around an aging core. The Big 3 wasn't overrated all that much...It was this FO.

[Immortal Spur]

People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last title in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.
Tru... RJ and Blair as starters...

[Collins21]

Because this FO consistently failed to put decent pieces around an aging core. The Big 3 wasn't overrated all that much...It was this FO.

Fair point

[timtonymanu]

People like to overrate the Big 3 years. From the last title in 07 to the first year of Kawhi the Big 3 while winning 50 games a year were still a mediocre team in the playoffs until they got Kawhi.

Umm but Duncan and Manu are special, generational kinds of players. And Parker had a winning mentality. They may not have had more championships but their ceiling was higher and their attitudes were infinitely better than Aldridge bitching about not getting his touches or Derozan not being mentally strong. This current crop of vets on the Spurs is nothing to write home about. Murray/White/Walker can't take over soon enough. The fact that Rudy gay is our savior says a lot right now.

[Collins21]

Tru... RJ and Blair as starters... Even thought they were winning 50 games I really hated those spurs teams from 08-11. I hated the 62 win team in 2010-2011 the most.

[TimDunkem]

Fair point

Matt Bonner, RJ, Blair, Kurt Thomas, ancient McDyess, Roger Mason, Keith Bogans....C'mon, man...

[timtonymanu]

Spurs from 08 - 11 >>>>> the Spurs of the last two seasons tbh.

[Dejounte]

Matt Bonner, RJ, Blair, Kurt Thomas, ancient McDyess, Roger Mason, Keith Bogans....C'mon, man...

You can list any team and their history of bad players...

[Collins21]

Umm but Duncan and Manu are special, generational kinds of players. And Parker had a winning mentality. They may not have had more championships but their ceiling was higher and their attitudes were infinitely better than Aldridge bitching about not getting his touches or Derozan not being mentally strong. This current crop of vets on the Spurs is nothing to write home about. Murray/White/Walker can't take over soon enough. The fact that Rudy gay is our savior says a lot right now.

Like I said revisionist history. They were gentleman swept by the Mavs in 09. Swet by the fucking Suns in 10 and the worst of all beat in 6 as a 1 seed in 2011. Those years were horrible.

[objective]

Murray was going to want more than this regardless. He's not signing an extension for less than $20M APY, I'd guess. Plus, the Spurs probably believe Gay is better than Murray and won't struggle to justify paying him a lot.

Maybe an overreaction on my part

But I can see it now, the Spurs still trying to cheap out on Murray (even justifiably).

[TimDunkem]

You can list any team and their history of bad players...

Yeah like DD, Rudy Gay, washed up Belli, washed up Mills, washed up Gasol, Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter...See a trend? A FO that consistently makes shit moves until they luck out in the draft.

The last good signing this team made was Boris Diaw in 2012.

[Capt Bringdown]

32 mill for a 32 year old player who is a trash playoff performer.

[BatManu20]

JJ Redick to the Pelicans on 2-yr/$26.5M deal. David Griffin's not messing around.

[timtonymanu]

Like I said revisionist history. They were gentleman swept by the Mavs in 09. Swet by the fucking Suns in 10 and the worst of all beat in 6 as a 1 seed in 2011. Those years were horrible.

in what world is having 3 legit hall of famers and 2 generational talents overrated and not ideal compared to watching a trio of non-winners put up empty stats so the Spurs can keep losing in the 1st round?

[BatManu20]

JJ Redick to the Pelicans on 2-yr/$26.5M deal. David Griffin's not messing around.

[Dejounte]

Yeah like DD, Rudy Gay, washed up Belli, washed up Mills, washed up Gasol, Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter...See a trend? A FO that consistently makes shit moves until they luck out in the draft.

The last good signing this team made was Boris Diaw in 2012.

Like I said you can choose any team in the league. Probably find half the league with worse moves than you listed for the Spurs.

Im really not sure why you count Quincy and Pondexter in your list either...grasping for straws? Those were such minor moves.

[Collins21]

in what world is having 3 legit hall of famers and 2 generational talents overrated and not ideal compared to watching a trio of non-winners put up empty stats so the Spurs can keep losing in the 1st round?

That's the point those 3 Hall of Famers she the bed plenty.

[TimDunkem]

Like I said you can choose any team in the league. Probably find half the league with worse moves than you listed for the Spurs.

The worst part though is that it happened with an all time great core...smh

[JuneJive]

Some people are bitching just to show they are alive. Gtfo.

His annual salary doesn't matter. The MLE is in play...

[tbdog]

Over the last few contracts, this became a 4 year 50mil dollar deal. Deng on 72 mil for example.

[Hoops Czar]

its only 2 years and we were already gonna be above the cap both years in all likelihood anyway. we still have the full MLE so this doesn't move the needle much.

The Spurs are the only organization I know that never has a pot to piss in when max free agents are available. Both DeRozan and Aldridge can be Free agents next year and the beat they'll be able to do is sign they're own junk because this FO is too stupid to play the market. They would rather overpay their own scrubs with minimal value than free up cap space for future free agents.

Sometimes, it isn't always about the money but the quality of the player. Gay isn't that good.

[timtonymanu]

Some people are bitching just to show they are alive. Gtfo.

His annual salary doesn't matter. The MLE is in play...

Lot of us bitching have been posting a long time so I guess you can know I'm alive too.

[Dejounte]

The worst part though is that it happened with an all time great core...smh

You make a great point there... Who helped establish that great core? Oh yeah the same team that made those bad moves that you listed. There are no perfect organizations. You take the good with the bad.

[Hoops Czar]

Some people are bitching just to show they are alive. Gtfo.

His annual salary doesn't matter. The MLE is in play...
Don't kid yourself. The MLE will most likely be used on two players with very little value.

[TimDunkem]

You make a great point there... Who helped establish that great core? Oh yeah the same team that made those bad moves that you listed. There are no perfect organizations. You take the good with the bad.

Tanking and luck mostly.

[spurraider21]

The Spurs are the only organization I know that never has a pot to piss in when max free agents are available. Both DeRozan and Aldridge can be Free agents next year and the beat they'll be able to do is sign they're own junk because this FO is too stupid to play the market. They would rather overpay their own scrubs with minimal value than free up cap space for future free agents.

Sometimes, it isn't always about the money but the quality of the player. Gay isn't that good.
how do you think we got aldridge?

[slick'81]

The MLE will most likely be used on two players with very little value.


My fear

[JuneJive]

Lot of us bitching have been posting a long time so I guess you can know I'm alive too.

Bitching about an obvious non-issue is what is sad.

Bitching about a real problem is another thing.

[timtonymanu]

Bitching about an obvious non-issue is what is sad.

Im gonna keep doing it so people like you keep being bothered by my opinions.

[KobesAchilles]

To make y’all feel better... at least we’re not Charlotte :lol


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I had made a joke reply in the NBA forum that Charlotte was gonna sign Rozier and trade for DDR. A line up of Rozier, DDR, Batum and MGK has Jordan thinking deep playoff run. Well part one of my joke was fulfilled. Now it’s time for part two to take place :hungry:

[NASpurs]

Bitching about an obvious non-issue is what is sad.

Bitching about a real problem is another thing.

People on forums bitch. News at 11.

[Hoops Czar]

how do you think we got aldridge?

He's a B-lister free agent. He might also be a contributing factor in Kawhi wanting to leave.

[JuneJive]

Im gonna keep doing it so people like you keep being bothered by my opinions.

Bother would suggest caring. Bye.

[BatManu20]

Trevor Ariza to the Kings 2-years/$25M

[timtonymanu]

Bother would suggest caring. Bye.

You took the time to reply so you obviously cared :lol

[timtonymanu]

People on forums bitch. News at 11.

"I don't care what you think, but let me tell you anyways."

[NASpurs]

"I don't care what you think, but let me tell you anyways."

while bitching about it.

[FkLA]

Some of you are clueless. It doesn't affect the Spurs cap situation in any way and because of said cap situation, the Spurs would've gotten worse if they didn't bring him back.

but the per year is a little high for me :cry
as if y'all are the ones writing the checks :rolleyes

[FkLA]

Trevor Ariza to the Kings 2-years/$25M

PHX one year, SAC the next. That dude really doesn't care about anything except the money at this stage of his career.

[DAF86]

That's the point those 3 Hall of Famers she the bed plenty.

lol the mom of this kid please come to put him in his place. And while you're at it, teach him a bit about Spurs' history.

[james evans]

Goddamn Popovich is killing this team.

[james evans]

PHX one year, SAC the next. That dude really doesn't care about anything except the money at this stage of his career.
And you’re acting like that’s a bad thing. Or maybe he should take a $10 million payout for a piece of jewelry. Some people have their priorities right.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1145469458669961217

[phxspurfan]

Solid (re) signing

[offset formation]

Meh, 16 millions per year on a 2 years contract isn't bad. It's not like it makes a difference on our cap situation. 16 millions , 9 millions it's the same shit; we can only sign guys for the MLE anyways. The good news is that is only a 2 years contract.

[timvp]

Two years is great news. I really didn't want it to be stretched to a third year :tu

[DPG21920]

Two years is great news. I really didn't want it to be stretched to a third year :tu

Any chance you think year 2 is a partial or team option?

[DPG21920]

I also like how we are happy just by SA not doing something overtly dumb now lol

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1145469458669961217

"compete for a 'ship"; DeRozan is still on the team. Those two things don't belong together.

[Russ]

Two years is great news. I really didn't want it to be stretched to a third year :tu

Yeah, I'd rather overpay for two years than commit to a third . . .

[timtonymanu]

"compete for a 'ship"; DeRozan is still on the team. Those two things don't belong together.

He’s reaching but I at least like that attitude better than “im still hurt by my last team.” And “I only show up if I get my touches, otherwise I check out.”

[timvp]

Any chance you think year 2 is a partial or team option?

Exactly what I'm trying to find out :tu

[MultiTroll]

Zzzzz
Over 30? check
Injury prone? check
2 years instead of 1? check

Like Rudy as a player but it's an overpay and will not help long term Championship prospects.
Good for filler and 2nd Round ceiling tho.
Rudy probably doesn't talk back. :pop:

[ginobilized]

I’m glad that we have one small forward now.
Better than zero.
Contract seems par for the course in today’s NBA.
Curious as to that 2nd yr.

[Kurgan]

Zzzzz
Over 30? check
Injury prone? check
2 years instead of 1? check

Like Rudy as a player but it's an overpay and will not help long term Championship prospects.
Good for filler and 2nd Round ceiling tho.
Rudy probably doesn't talk back. :pop:

lol, we have no championship prospects as long as Derozan is on this team. Just enjoy the treadmill in the meantime and hope that Pop give the youngsters some minutes.

[DPG21920]

Exactly what I'm trying to find out :tu

Jabari got scoop; it’s no option (Team or Player). Appears to be fully guaranteed other than 4M of the money being bonus money if he hits certain marks.

Interesting that Jabari references Mills in the article and says this was payback for Rudy giving back money when he left Kings.

SA taking care of players for better or worse.

[MultiTroll]

lol, we have no championship prospects as long as Derozan is on this team. Just enjoy the treadmill in the meantime and hope that Pop give the youngsters some minutes.
Right, so what good does it do to give Rudy minutes (along with LOLMills )if the plan is just stay mediocre til Pock rides off to his Olympic-Warriors gig.
Ok see it was just posted that mmmaybe it's a 2nd year team option.

[Kurgan]

Right, so what good does it do to give Rudy minutes (along with LOLMills )if the plan is just stay mediocre til Pock rides off to his Olympic-Warriors gig.
Ok see it was just posted that mmmaybe it's a 2nd year team option.

Like I said, the Spurs don't want to contend or rebuild. They're in treadmill territory as long as Derozan is on this team. Which is good enough for Pop. As long as he makes the playoffs as a 7th/8th seed, he's happy(as are the Holts).

[C-Dub]

Gay at 2 for $32 or Ariza at 2 for $25? I say Rudy because he already knows the system but I hope he doesn't always try and dunk the ball at his age when driving to the basket instead just score on a simple but guaranteed bucket. And Hope's he plays with a little more physicality. It will help Rudy now because of the Carroll signing. Want have to play as minutes at the SF position.

[SpurSpike]

I for one am extremely happy Rudy decided to stick around. He is worth every cent of that 2 year contract imo.

[playbonner15]

I also like how we are happy just by SA not doing something overtly dumb now lol
:lol

[Russ]

Any chance you think year 2 is a partial or team option?

I think his agent would be up for a malpractice suit if it's really just one year.

I would doubt the Spurs have any control over year two.

[DPG21920]

I think his agent would be up for a malpractice suit if it's really just one year.

I would doubt the Spurs have any control over year two.

A functional 1-year/20M deal when he may have only gotten 3/30 from another team is malpractice? I think that would be some great agent-ing

[XDT76]

It's quite an overpay for him. Keeping him is nice, no more than 2 years is nice, but as the free agency period has drawn closer I doubt the market was there at more than 2/24. Classic 12:01 Spurs.

What impact could this have on the Murray extension?

Spurs will have a hard time convincing Rich Paul to take anything reasonable now. No way Murray takes less than 20 a year when an old, crumbling Gay gets 16. Even coming off the ACL.

Kind of how it made it hard for the Spurs to try and cheapskate down Kawhi from a super Max when they're giving $50 million to an unplayable Mills and paper $48 to a washed Pau.

Gay's number are still relatively better than Murray. With so many other crazy contracts given out by other teams, Gay's contract means nothing when reference to during contract negotiation. They will use Rozier's instead.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Fair deal

[XDT76]

Stop bitching about deals that can help the Spurs to get into the POs. By tanking the young guys don't get to experience the POs, it does not helps their growth. So many posted here that PO is different to RS and then expect our young guys to tank and don't experience PO and suddenly win a championship is amazing.

[Kurgan]

Spurs from 08 - 11 >>>>> the Spurs of the last two seasons tbh.

Easily. Defrozen ball is the most hideous, ugly bball I've seen from this franchise since the 1997 lottery season. I absolutely despise watching them play when Demar is on the court.

[illusioNtEk]

I think its fair

[EricB]

Easily. Defrozen ball is the most hideous, ugly bball I've seen from this franchise since the 1997 lottery season. I absolutely despise watching them play when Demar is on the court.

Lol bullshit

[GAustex]

Easily. Defrozen ball is the most hideous, ugly bball I've seen from this franchise since the 1997 lottery season. I absolutely despise watching them play when Demar is on the court.
Keep fighting the good fight
Some may not want to hear but Kurgan speaks the truth

[JeffDuncan]

Easily. Defrozen ball is the most hideous, ugly bball I've seen from this franchise since the 1997 lottery season. I absolutely despise watching them play when Demar is on the court.

Same here. Except, add Mills to that, too.

[ismael-robert]

Funny that pop was impressed with his facilitation n ball movement n he had great assist numbers for first year

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1148297841720188928?s=19

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/jgsiegel/status/1148399448415850502

[RC_Drunkford]

He was great last year, but needs to go. He's not even a better bench player than Trey Lyles at this point

[TimDunkem]

So many bad takes here while I, of course, knew it was an awful move.

[MoSpur02]

I know from reports earlier in the season that Pop was unhappy with Gay's play.

[timtonymanu]

I dreaded him coming back too, because it's not like Rudy is young and unbroken. It was basically another "Thank you, Pau," and "Thank you, Patty," type of deal. Now Rudy is even more broken than last year. That's why I hated the deal.

[gambit1990]

rudy seems like a good guy but this didn't make sense to me.

[Robz4000]

The fact it was only for two years makes it fine, even with him losing a step or seven. They couldn't spend that money on anyone else and he'll be easily tradable if they wanna move him at the deadline or in the off season. The Carroll signing is much worse.

[sasaint]

The fact it was only for two years makes it fine, even with him losing a step or seven. They couldn't spend that money on anyone else and he'll be easily tradable if they wanna move him at the deadline or in the off season. The Carroll signing is much worse.

So much money thrown away in the last few years...!

[RC_Drunkford]

I dreaded him coming back too, because it's not like Rudy is young and unbroken. It was basically another "Thank you, Pau," and "Thank you, Patty," type of deal. Now Rudy is even more broken than last year. That's why I hated the deal.

this

[RC_Drunkford]

So much money thrown away in the last few years...!

Gay, Carroll and Belinelli combine for 29!!! million. Add Pau's 5 million to that and you have the salary of another max player :lmao :lmao :lmao

RC Drunkford had too much Henny again

[sasaint]

Gay, Carroll and Belinelli combine for 29!!! million. Add Pau's 5 million to that and you have the salary of another max player :lmao :lmao :lmao

RC Drunkford had too much Henny again

When we made our charge tonight, Bryn, Gay and LMA were on the bench. I think Dumbmar was on the bench some of the time, too. At any rate, he took a backseat (thankfully) while the young guys, plus Poodle and Patty led the charge. At least Dumbmar didn't try to take control with his isos.

But, yeah, let's hang on to those guys, because we would surely tank if we got rid of them...

[Chinook]

I think the Spurs should trade him if he has value, but this wasn't a bad decision to re-sign him. He's still set to expire when the team needs space, and the team had no reason to believe he'd fall apart so utterly. They would not have been better had they let him walk. If anything, they're better for having him, because they have his contract to trade. It's a shame that Rudy's looked utterly putrid, because I'd be the Spurs could've tricked a team like LAL into giving up Kuzma and expirings for him had Gay been even decent.

It's possible that like DMDR, Rudy needs to play up two positions to best match-up in the modern league. He might need some real small-ball center minutes, though those are hard to come by with Poeltl. He just doesn't have the burst to play a perimeter floor-game against forwards most of the time.

[tbdog]

Spurs signed Gay for 6mil for the first year and 10mil for year 2. Then he signed this one. He out played his contact in those first two years.

[SpurPadre]

I think the Spurs should trade him if he has value, but this wasn't a bad decision to re-sign him. He's still set to expire when the team needs space, and the team had no reason to believe he'd fall apart so utterly. They would not have been better had they let him walk. If anything, they're better for having him, because they have his contract to trade. It's a shame that Rudy's looked utterly putrid, because I'd be the Spurs could've tricked a team like LAL into giving up Kuzma and expirings for him had Gay been even decent.

It's possible that like DMDR, Rudy needs to play up two positions to best match-up in the modern league. He might need some real small-ball center minutes, though those are hard to come by with Poeltl. He just doesn't have the burst to play a perimeter floor-game against forwards most of the time.

One wouldn't expect a 33 year old who had a significant injury previously to fall apart?

[Ignazzz]

Gay, Carroll and Belinelli combine for 29!!! million. Add Pau's 5 million to that and you have the salary of another max player :lmao :lmao :lmao

RC Drunkford had too much Henny again
Add Mills and You get Leonard max

[TimDunkem]

One wouldn't expect a 33 year old who had a significant injury previously to fall apart?

Right? It wasn't hard to see this coming. It was actually quite likely...

[dbestpro]

Gay has no return game. Once you pass him the ball you will never see it back. I would love to see him moved along with Carroll for a wing with height and bounce.