DeMarre Carroll to the Spurs

[MoSpur02]

Per Shams

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145473887808958464

[MoSpur02]

2 years $13 million

[timtonymanu]

1 Demar wasn’t enough.

[Immortal Spur]

I like it

[GAustex]

Well that is something

[HarlemHeat37]

I like it, the only realistic move they were going to make was for a backup SF/PF and he fits that role..he's almost washed, but he should be solid as a backup 15 MPG guy..

[r0drig0lac]

thanks GOD

[Floyd Pacquiao]

As long as Marco is gone

[Cardinal]

Fantastic!

[objective]

I know he's washed and all, but can he even hang with small forwards at this point in his career or is just a 4 now?

[timtonymanu]

Good signing though. Please get rid of Beli.

[FkLA]

We're back, boys!

:flag:

[Harry Callahan]

The team is being smart to keep a massive amount of cap space to money slap a top tier free agent or two in 2021. I like that discipline.

[Immortal Spur]

I like it, the only realistic move they were going to make was for a backup SF/PF and he fits that role..he's almost washed, but he should be solid as a backup 15 MPG guy..
Yup. He’s a placeholder. 2 year deal on a solid contract. He’ll play solid, make few mistakes and not be a threat to the youth. He’s familiar with similar systems so you can plug and play.

[widowmaker]

Dude Spurs always seem to sign a guy thats damn near washed up.

[Seventyniner]

Is this guy any better than a slightly richer man's Dante Cunningham?

[timvp]

First reaction: If the Spurs weren't in the running for a bigger fish, DeMarre Carroll is good value. Solid player, fits a role, has played well on good teams. A little disappointed that they didn't go after a full MLE target .... but then again, the options weren't that amazing. Kaminsky? Even Thad Young is pretty meh for the MLE.

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145473887808958464

[TDomination]

Overall happy with it... I think.

[siraulo23]

:tu

I kinda like this move

[davidbowie]

nba finals bound

[ceperez]

Well, I guess that's the end of free agency for the Spurs?

Murray/Forbes/Patty
White/Walker/Belinelli
DeRozan/Carroll/Johnson
Gay/Bertans/Saminic
Aldridge/Poetl/Metu


2 -way . Eubanks, Weatherspoon

[mexicanjunior]

Spare...Cunningham/Poindexter clone...

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Patty mills makes more than him

[RD2191]

Why not Stanley Johnson?

[Ditty]

I like this move!

[TDomination]

2021 looks to be our next big summer

[Genovaswitness]

Great move. Way better than what we have and insanely cheap

[TD 21]

With the money being thrown around, he's good value, but another guy that has to be managed. Not that big a deal in this case though, considering they don't need him to play a near 30 mpg role.

Still, even in his athletic prime of a few years ago, he couldn't physically guard James (Scumbag would more than likely be too much for him too).

No room for a third center. Do they go with Eubanks? Does Metu get waived? Do they make a trade considering it's unclear who'll start or how the rotation will shake out? Lots of questions.

[cjw]

Nice thing about keeping a piece of the MLE fresh is they can throw more money at guys than the veteran minimum later in FA or if someone gets bought out should the opportunity present itself.

Roster is possibly set now, but the fact that they didn’t use full MLE is interesting.

[jag]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145473887808958464

Not a bad move considering the other possibilities. It's actually a pleasant surprise

[timtonymanu]

Murray/Patty
White/Forbes/Walker
Derozan/Carroll
Gay/Bertans/Samanic
Aldridge/Poeltl

Hopefully Beli is gone and I would be fine with this team next year.

[Immortal Spur]

Now just cut metu and sign Stanley Johnson

[timvp]

I'd rather have Carroll at two-year, $13 million than paying Aminu $30 million, tbh.

[RD2191]

Another old pile of shit. West is as wide open as ever and Spurs doing jack shit about it. :lol

[NASpurs]

Why not Stanley Johnson?

Ten years too young compared to Carroll. SJ won't be a Spur until the year 2030.

[slick'81]

Meh how old is he

[KobesAchilles]

So who is the starting SF for our team then? Carrol and Rudy off the bench. Doesn’t sound too bad

[Robz4000]

Solid signing considering they only need him to play 15-20 mins a night.

[Kurgan]

Our two free agency moves were signing two washed up 32 year olds. Not surprised. Pop loves his vets.

[timtonymanu]

It was better than bringing back Cunningham and/or Pondexter again

[NASpurs]

It was better than bringing back Cunningham and/or Pondexter again

True and that's the type of spin we need to not blow our brains out.

[Russ]

Why not Stanley Johnson?
:clap

[r0drig0lac]

Now just cut metu and sign Stanley Johnson

[BatManu20]

I like it, considering our options tbh

[Budkin]

Always loved this dude! Good stuff!

[phxspurfan]

Championship!

[Solid D]

I love this signing. Disruptive defender.

[BatManu20]

He’s about to turn 33 in a couple weeks also so he’s right around PATFO’s target age range tbh :lol

[Ditty]

So who is the starting SF for our team then? Carrol and Rudy off the bench. Doesn’t sound too bad

My guess is Poetl, Aldridge, Derozan, Walker and Murray are your starters. Rudy is your small ball four, Carroll replaces Demar, Forbes replaces White and White replaces Murray. Marco and Patty fit in somehow with veteran roles.

[Dverde]

Solid vet. About the caliber of player I expected.

[razor247]

Garbage

[EricB]

Spare...Cunningham/Poindexter clone...


Havent watched the NBA in a while have you

[MoSpur02]

I'm not excited about the signing, but at least it shows they're looking to improve that position

[Dverde]

I hope he drinks coffee.

[razor247]

This team needs shooters not big stupids...dm can't shoot a 2 much less a 3

[Kurgan]

My guess is Poetl, Aldridge, Derozan, Walker and Murray are your starters. Rudy is your small ball four, Carroll replaces Demar, Forbes replaces White and White replaces Murray. Marco and Patty fit in somehow with veteran roles.

Walker will not start. Pop fell in love with Forbes last year. He will be the starting SG next season.

[TD 21]

You'd think a trade would be coming to make sense of this roster, but they almost never make a trade to alleviate a logjam. Still, right now, 2 of the 3 of Bertans, Belinelli, Walker, won't be in the rotation. Sure, the likes of Murray, Gay and Carroll, are likely to be given more than a few rest games, but still. Too many rotational bodies, no clear, coherent rotation and no third center (Kornet?).

[Russ]

Short term the old guys. No problem.

Is this guy related to Joe Barry Carroll?

[DPG21920]

It’s not surprising seeing sas lack of commitment to pushing hard to win now. I called the mle being 2 years for SA since their plan seems to be to hedge and maintain for 2 seasons until they can change things with DeRozan and LMA off books.

Given that mindset Carroll is a good get for that plan.

Disappointed they aren’t really truly trying but not bad.

[Shohoku High]

For those who aren't aware. In April, DeMarre Carroll wife had a few things to say about his free agency.

DeMarre Carroll says that his wife will be making his free-agency decision this summer: “I'm dictating this free agency," Carroll said his wife told him recently. "It's been 10 years and I've been sitting aside” and she said it's my time. So it's her time, all I can do is sit back. I hope my wife picks a good destination and hopefully its back here but we'll see what happens.”

[Ditty]

Walker will not start. Pop fell in love with Forbes last year. He will be the starting SG next season.

I seriously doubt that :lol. I know Pop is an idiot at times but even you can see the gap in talent between those two. Unless something dramatic happens before the end of the season he is most likely starting.

[Spurs da champs]

Could've been worse, this is an ok move.

[sananspursfan21]

Excellent news. I just wish he were about 3 years younger, but I’ll take it

[playbonner15]

Meh but couldve been worse

[sasaint]

Ten years too young compared to Carroll. SJ won't be a Spur until the year 2030.

SJ will not be in the league in a couple of seasons much less 2030.

[Leetonidas]

For those who aren't aware. In April, DeMarre Carroll wife had a few things to say about his free agency.

DeMarre Carroll says that his wife will be making his free-agency decision this summer: “I'm dictating this free agency," Carroll said his wife told him recently. "It's been 10 years and I've been sitting aside” and she said it's my time. So it's her time, all I can do is sit back. I hope my wife picks a good destination and hopefully its back here but we'll see what happens.”


Kinda surprising but SA is a nice family city. So for someone at his age I suppose it's understandable. Maybe his wife wanted to ensure wherever they went had absolutely no nightlife :lol

[callo1]

Good addition

[GAustex]

Carroll has a chance guarding bronbron and #2 so we got that going for us

[slick'81]

Yea 3 years ago woulda been ideal

[Slippy]

Dude Spurs always seem to sign a guy thats damn near washed up.

Not sure about washed up but on the tail end of his careers I don't mind as much. This guy can still contribute unlike Dante and Quincy. Hey will be a veteran presence that sets the example to the younger guys on hardnosed play. Spurs should thank his wife. Apparently he was leaving the decision on where to sign to his wife.

Now sign Patrick Beverly on the cheap, offload Patty or demar and call it the best offseason the spurs could hope for.

[kobyz]

Is it making DeMar happy kind of move bringing his good friend, or also basketball related move?

[objective]

I seriously doubt that :lol. I know Pop is an idiot at times but even you can see the gap in talent between those two. Unless something dramatic happens before the end of the season he is most likely starting.

I would love Walker to start

But come on. Mills didn't play the last 18 minutes of a game 7 because he was playing well. It's because he was Mills.

Mills is getting his 20 minutes. Forbes has Pop's trust. White might not have his trust but he's been around. Murray is getting minutes as the future.

Walker will get his garbage time and DNP-CDs.

Sad but it's the future, with DeRozan, Marco and now Carroll at the SF.

[cutewizard]

The perfect bench player for the Spurssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[cutewizard]

One more player, and we shall COMPETE boys,

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[cutewizard]

I like this signing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI_RQGVfDsM

[DAF86]

Spurs finally making coherent offseason moves.

[cutewizard]

Great move. Way better than what we have and insanely cheap


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Seconded

[cutewizard]

Spurs finally making coherent offseason moves.

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Indeed

[objective]

Started watching the few Brooklyn games I still have dvr'd.

Only 1 quarter in but early impressions and overreactions are his defense is trash, lol

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNZGIfsE138

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOzuZWDA68

[C-Dub]

With this signing and no other move. I see this lineup for the upcoming season:

1. DJM, Forbes, DDR, Gay, LMA
2. White, Mills, Carroll, Bert, Poeltl
3. LW4, Beli, KJ, Luka, Metu

But... something tells me that a trade is incoming. I can not see LW4 and Beli being 3rd strong this year and Luka may get more minutes than expected if Bertans ends up in the doghouse. If a trade does happen I see it involving Beli and/or Bertans for a pretty good PF/C. If that happens then this is the lineup I would like to see for this upcoming season:
1.DJM, Forbes, DDR, PF/C, LMA
2. White, Mills, Carroll, Gay, Poeltl
3. LW4, KJ, Luka, Metu, Open

If LW4 plays well to start the season I can see him moving up from the 3rd string and bumping one of Mills/Forbes down in minutes.

[slick'81]

Started watching the few Brooklyn games I still have dvr'd.

Only 1 quarter in but early impressions and overreactions are his defense is trash, lol


Hes old tbh and his best years are behind him.Hes a vet presence and insurance nothing more

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1145488129220104192

[tbdog]

So, Gay, Carroll, Bertans and Samanic. Plus Poeltl gets his token minutes along with LMA. I still can see Bertans getting traded here.

[BatManu20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGaKgGDPB0

[Russ]

So, Gay, Carroll, Bertans and Samanic. Plus Poeltl gets his token minutes along with LMA. I still can see Bertans getting traded here.

Yeah, I like Bertans but wouldn't object to a good trade at this point . . .

[MoSpur02]

Spurs need to trade Belinelli or Bertans to Brooklyn for Harris

[ironman2886]

This is a solid pick up. Cheap too.

[rudwick]

So that gives us:
Dejounte
Demar
Derrick
Demarre

Next target, Demarcus?

[DAF86]

Started watching the few Brooklyn games I still have dvr'd.

Only 1 quarter in but early impressions and overreactions are his defense is trash, lol

Yeah, at this point Carroll is more of an ilusion of a 3 and D player than a reality, but at least he isn't Cunningham or Pondexter. Hopefully PATFO can find the next Danny Green to mold into that real 3 and D player we so desperately need but for the time being Carroll should do.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Not too excited but not an awful deal. Dude played like dumpster juice in the playoffs last season. Last really good year was his last one with Atlanta

[Dejounte]

Yeah, at this point Carroll is more of an ilusion of a 3 and D player than a reality, but at least he isn't Cunningham or Pondexter. Hopefully PATFO can find the next Danny Green to mold into that real 3 and D player we so desperately need but for the time being Carroll should do.

Nobody thought PJ Tucker would have renaissance before he got picked up by the Rockets

[offset formation]

Well, I guess that's the end of free agency for the Spurs?

Murray/Forbes/Patty
White/Walker/Belinelli
DeRozan/Carroll/Johnson
Gay/Bertans/Saminic
Aldridge/Poetl/Metu


2 -way . Eubanks, Weatherspoon

You know what that is, is three fairly solid rotations. Nothing in and of itself that scares you but collectively, they will wear teams down with defense and attacking offense.

I think I like it.

[spurs1990]

Well, I guess that's the end of free agency for the Spurs?

Murray/Forbes/Patty
White/Walker/Belinelli
DeRozan/Carroll/Johnson
Gay/Bertans/Saminic
Aldridge/Poetl/Metu


2 -way . Eubanks, Weatherspoon

This is a really good 15 man roster. Not really a 'scrub' on there like normal rosters go.
Either established vets, up and comers, promising youth, and the championship pedigree/culture of Mills and Belinelli anchoring the end of the bench. Break in case of emergency guys.

Best of all you're only integrating three out of 15 guys and Carroll should have a low learning curve. Luka , Johnson and Metu work on their game in Austin and move up depth chart in 2020.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Well, I guess that's the end of free agency for the Spurs?

Murray/Forbes/Patty
White/Walker/Belinelli
DeRozan/Carroll/Johnson
Gay/Bertans/Saminic
Aldridge/Poetl/Metu


2 -way . Eubanks, WeatherspoonUebanks will be part of the roster before Metu will be.

[DAF86]

I like it, the only realistic move they were going to make was for a backup SF/PF and he fits that role..he's almost washed, but he should be solid as a backup 15 MPG guy..

I think it makes more sense to start him. The idea of signing a veteran "3 and D" player is to buy you some minutes wearing down the other teams' best player at the start of each half.

I think a nominal starting spot playing 18/20 minutes is the most reasonable role for Carroll.

Rotation I would like to see:

Murray, White, DeRozan, Carroll, Aldridge

Forbes, Walker, Bertans, Gay, Poeltl

Rotation Pop Will probably play (barring more moves):

Murray, Forbes, DeRozan, Carroll, Aldridge

White, Mills, Belinelli, Gay, Poeltl

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

I like it, the only realistic move they were going to make was for a backup SF/PF and he fits that role..he's almost washed, but he should be solid as a backup 15 MPG guy..Almost washed?

[BatManu20]

https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/35_DeMarre_Carroll.jpg

[EricB]

I would love Walker to start

But come on. Mills didn't play the last 18 minutes of a game 7 because he was playing well. It's because he was Mills.

Mills is getting his 20 minutes. Forbes has Pop's trust. White might not have his trust but he's been around. Murray is getting minutes as the future.

Walker will get his garbage time and DNP-CDs.

Sad but it's the future, with DeRozan, Marco and now Carroll at the SF.


Guess SS the coaches who are planning on walker being the first player off the bench better be told otherwise.

[DPG21920]

I think you start Carroll...Rudy isn’t designed to start and fits well with the bench.

Murray / White / DeRozan / Carroll / LMA

Bryn / Lonnie / Bertans / Rudy / Poeltl

[DPG21920]

I think you start Carroll...Rudy isn’t designed to start and fits well with the bench.

Murray / White / DeRozan / Carroll / LMA

Bryn / Lonnie / Bertans / Rudy / Poeltl

[callo1]

I suspect the front office will possibly look at the buy out market, or a trade deadline situation from here on out.

With some new young talent to evaluate, that philosophy seems like a good one to have.

People here always overreact when the front office makes, or doesn't make a move...really funny actually.

If DJ was healthy, there is no way the Spurs lose to Denver. It isn't like the Spurs are far from the mark.

[callo1]

Double post fixed.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI_RQGVfDsMLMAO, took him over 10 years to hit a career high of 26 points. Dude makes fat head look fast.

[timtonymanu]

I think you start Carroll...Rudy isn’t designed to start and fits well with the bench.

Murray / White / DeRozan / Carroll / LMA

Bryn / Lonnie / Bertans / Rudy / Poeltl

Would love a situation where Patty isn’t in the rotation but doesn’t seem possible with Pop

[slick'81]

As long as he gives you that 1.5 three per game i guess dc could start and give way to gay

[DAF86]

I think you start Carroll...Rudy isn’t designed to start and fits well with the bench.

Murray / White / DeRozan / Carroll / LMA

Bryn / Lonnie / Bertans / Rudy / Poeltl

This is the rotation we would all like to see but you know it isn't the one Pop is gonna run with.

[UZER]

With the Warriors dismantled, there is blood in the water.

[FkLA]

Would love a situation where Patty isn’t in the rotation but doesn’t seem possible with Pop

This. Would be ideal but it's pretty much a pipe dream.

[spurraider21]

he's a viable reserve SF, which oddly enough, we didn't have last year. It's why Cunningham was forced into a role early in the year, until pop basically gave up and played midget ball all year with Marco as our backup 3 :lol

fits a need at a resaonble price and a short term deal. hard not to like. no need committing the full MLE just for the hell of it on a target you aren't completely sold on.

this season is going to be all about internal improvement with murray/white/walker, with the hope that LMA doesn't decline

[Kurgan]

Would love a situation where Patty isn’t in the rotation but doesn’t seem possible with Pop

Can't believe we still have to watch this scrub play for another two years. Absolutely brutal contract.

[DPG21920]

This is the rotation we would all like to see but you know it isn't the one Pop is gonna run with.

Well the only questionable one not in there is Mills. Beli is done you would think. No one beside Mills that isn’t on that list is going to be fighting for PT. So it should be close to that.

[Degoat]

2 years/13 million is nothing compared to some of these deals being given out

[anon]

Derozen/Belinelli/Gay/Carroll/Poeltl

The San Antonio Craptors

[spurraider21]

Spurs need to trade Belinelli or Bertans to Brooklyn for Harris
what incentive would they have to deal harris for belinelli?

[slick'81]

2 years/13 million is nothing compared to some of these deals being given out

6.5 is what hes worth

[slick'81]

Derozen/Belinelli/Gay/Carroll/Poeltl

The San Antonio Craptors


:pctoss

[heyheymymy]

Murray/White/Mills
Forbes/Walker/ Belinelli
Derozan/Gay
Carroll/Bertans
Aldridge/Poetl

[Marcus Bryant]

Decent signing. Wonder who the rest of the MLE goes to?

[Chomag]

Meh not good but not bad either, no upgrade to anything. In other words just our FO's usual fetish for washed up players on their way out

[Trueblood]

The big question mark right now is DDR. He either needs to re-sign or be traded. This move doesn't feel like a win now move, it seems like a space holder for two years. It feels like if we wanted to win now we would have used the full MLE on a higher quality player. Between this contract and Gays contract or feels like were just waiting till 2021 to see our guys develop and see if we can get a max player. Which leads me to the hope that we're trading him away for future assets ��

[timvp]

Decent signing. Wonder who the rest of the MLE goes to?

Probably not enough money for Milutinov ... but maybe.

[Marcus Bryant]

Probably not enough money for Milutinov ... but maybe.

Was thinking that. Otherwise maybe a speculative young FA signing.

[FkLA]

Meh not good but not bad either, no upgrade to anything. In other words just our FO's usual fetish for washed up players on their way out

Of course it's an upgrade. The Spurs had to rely on Cunningham and Belli to eat up back-up SF minutes last season.

The Spurs' biggest problem last season was overrelying on Forbes, Wombat, Belli. With the addition of Murray, Carroll, Samanic+moving Walker into the rotation...Forbes can be play a role that is better suited for him (15 MPG), Belli gets moved or removed from the rotation, and Wombat takes a backseat to both White and Murray.

[MannyIsGod]

I would love Walker to start

But come on. Mills didn't play the last 18 minutes of a game 7 because he was playing well. It's because he was Mills.

Mills is getting his 20 minutes. Forbes has Pop's trust. White might not have his trust but he's been around. Murray is getting minutes as the future.

Walker will get his garbage time and DNP-CDs.

Sad but it's the future, with DeRozan, Marco and now Carroll at the SF.

This completely ignores that Pop plays young players when they are capable of contributing. Especially after year 1. The idea that Walker is just going to sit on the bench if he's the best option is false.

How many young players that the Spurs have had around have they traded away before they blow up? I can't think if of a single one. Can you? If Walker doens't play its because he's not good enough (and I don't expect that to be the case).

[MannyIsGod]

With this signing and no other move. I see this lineup for the upcoming season:

1. DJM, Forbes, DDR, Gay, LMA
2. White, Mills, Carroll, Bert, Poeltl
3. LW4, Beli, KJ, Luka, Metu

But... something tells me that a trade is incoming. I can not see LW4 and Beli being 3rd strong this year and Luka may get more minutes than expected if Bertans ends up in the doghouse. If a trade does happen I see it involving Beli and/or Bertans for a pretty good PF/C. If that happens then this is the lineup I would like to see for this upcoming season:
1.DJM, Forbes, DDR, PF/C, LMA
2. White, Mills, Carroll, Gay, Poeltl
3. LW4, KJ, Luka, Metu, Open

If LW4 plays well to start the season I can see him moving up from the 3rd string and bumping one of Mills/Forbes down in minutes.

THere is absolutely zero chance of White being on the bench to start this season if he is healthy.

[Marcus Bryant]

This completely ignores that Pop plays young players when they are capable of contributing. Especially after year 1. The idea that Walker is just going to sit on the bench if he's the best option is false.

How many young players that the Spurs have had around have they traded away before they blow up? I can't think if of a single one. Can you? If Walker doens't play its because he's not good enough (and I don't expect that to be the case).

:tu Pop started a 19 year old from France at the 1 once upon a time.

[MannyIsGod]

I think you start Carroll...Rudy isn’t designed to start and fits well with the bench.

Murray / White / DeRozan / Carroll / LMA

Bryn / Lonnie / Bertans / Rudy / Poeltl

I see this as a much more realistic lineup than anything else I've seen posted in this thread.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah, at this point Carroll is more of an ilusion of a 3 and D player than a reality, but at least he isn't Cunningham or Pondexter. Hopefully PATFO can find the next Danny Green to mold into that real 3 and D player we so desperately need but for the time being Carroll should do.

They have. His name is Keldon Johnson, tbh.

[Dejounte]

THere is absolutely zero chance of White being on the bench to start this season if he is healthy.

Better for the team if he comes off the bench.

[Jordan Jackson]

The team is being smart to keep a massive amount of cap space to money slap a top tier free agent or two in 2021. I like that discipline.

Pop is coaching team USA where most of these players start talking about playing together. They should make the space.

If if this is their plan I can get behind that.

[Marcus Bryant]

Classic Spurs signing. Entering this offseason given their cap room and need at the 3 Carroll is a solid pull. Ability to play the 4 is a plus. 3,D, and board for 15 to 20 minutes.

[MannyIsGod]

I dont expect the Spurs to trade anyone like Bertans or Marco in the offseason. Any trades for those players available now, are available in Feb. They'll probably see what they have with the youth and then make trades later in the year if at all. But unless something amazing comes up, they're likely done.

[FkLA]

I see this as a much more realistic lineup than anything else I've seen posted in this thread.

Yeah, Wombat aka carrier of the culture torch aka leader of the coffee gang aka closer of Game 7s turning into an 11th man is really realistic. :rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

Better for the team if he comes off the bench.

Yeah no. Don't agree with this at all.

[SpurPadre]

I usually hate PATFO's Old Fuck fetish but this is a solid move for a player who has much more to offer than Cunningham and Pondexter, tbh.

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs already adding Murray and Walker to the mix next season. Carroll takes care of the backup 3 and can slide to 4. Next need to add a 4/5.

[Dejounte]

Yeah no. Don't agree with this at all.

Whats not to understand? Dejounte, Demar, White all are effective with the ball in their hands. Why not spread that out?

[SpurPadre]

Yeah no. Don't agree with this at all.

Well, Murray should certainly not come off the bench so would you feel comfortable in not having a back court that can defend coming off the bench? If not, White has to be our 6th man.

[NickiRasgo]

If they will not move Derozan, can they just move the following? Mills, Forbes, Belinelli and Bertans.

[MannyIsGod]

Whats not to understand? Dejounte, Demar, White all are effective with the ball in their hands. Why not spread that out?

Because Derrick White might be the best with his ball in his hand the way the Spurs play out of that group. Furthemore, Dejonte's effectiveness in that role is still to be seen. And finally, White is by far the best shooter from 3 point land out of those 3.

[Dejounte]

Because Derrick White might be the best with his ball in his hand the way the Spurs play out of that group. Furthemore, Dejonte's effectiveness in that role is still to be seen. And finally, White is by far the best shooter from 3 point land out of those 3.

Dejounte showed he was a leader in that role and was on his way to be a walking triple double. Let me rephrase this... I dont foresee both DJ and White starting together...whether that means DJ coming off the bench or White. One needs to come off the bench.

[SpurPadre]

Poetl
LMA
Carroll
DeMar
Murray

Bench:
White
Gay
Walker
Forbes
Bertans
Johnson
Luka
Metu

[SpurPadre]

Starters
Poetl
LMA
Carroll
DeMar
Murray

Bench:
White
Gay
Walker
Forbes
Bertans
Johnson
Luka
Mills

[MannyIsGod]

Dejounte showed he was a leader in that role and was on his way to be a walking triple double. Let me rephrase this... I dont foresee both DJ and White starting together...whether that means DJ coming off the bench or White. One needs to come off the bench.

Assuming both are healthy to start the season, they are both starting. I'm about as close to 100% sure about this as possible. It makes no sense to bench one.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah, Wombat aka carrier of the culture torch aka leader of the coffee gang aka closer of Game 7s turning into an 11th man is really realistic. :rolleyes

Yeah don’t know what Manny is smoking there

[Atl Spur]

White being the six man is great and necessary.

[FkLA]

White >>> Instagram Baller

[Dejounte]

Assuming both are healthy to start the season, they are both starting. I'm about as close to 100% sure about this as possible. It makes no sense to bench one.

They might be starting for the first two games. I'm 100% sure both wont start by half way into next season. Thats not what the Spurs are planning and it wont set the Spurs apart from other contenders. Thats what made Ginobili so special. Derrick or Murray both dont need to start. Them not starting doesnt equal to less minutes for either.

[timtonymanu]

White >>> Instagram Baller

Easily but you can’t convince IB fans otherwise

[GAustex]

I think White is more trustworthy handling the ball
I hope Dejounte shows equal or better but I am not sure I trust Dejounte until he proves it
Before he got hurt he was showing positive signs
Preference is that they can find a way to both work

[MannyIsGod]

They might be starting for the first two games. I'm 100% sure both wont start by half way into next season. Thats not what the Spurs are planning and it wont set the Spurs apart from other contenders. Thats what made Ginobili so special. Derrick or Murray both dont need to start. Them not starting doesnt equal to less minutes for either.

I was waiting for you to bring up Manu. Neither of these players are Manu. We don't have players of Tony Parker and Tim Duncan quality on the roster right now. There's no reason to bench them in order to give Forbes or Patty Mills more minutes.

It makes zero sense.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p48RXmmY-Rk

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZH7phDnvY

[UZER]

Put White at 2. Hes got the b-ball iq to play off the ball.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DUHKdjOYgQ

[Dejounte]

I was waiting for you to bring up Manu. Neither of these players are Manu. We don't have players of Tony Parker and Tim Duncan quality on the roster right now. There's no reason to bench them in order to give Forbes or Patty Mills more minutes.

It makes zero sense.

We'll go back to this thread mid-season.

[cutewizard]

good young boys

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke2lIIcux3g

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VAiWE4_ePw

[cutewizard]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpNv9Uf3zxU

[cutewizard]

i think he was brought in as a mentor to the young guys, hmmmmmm

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DwDESH4xnw

[cutewizard]

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

[cutewizard]

steven a smith =========== THE BEYONDER, ahahahahahahahaha

[tmtcsc]

Spare...Cunningham/Poindexter clone...

Not at all. Much better than both those dudes. High motor guy who at least competes and plays with emotion.

EDIT:: Ah shit, scratch that. I mistook him for Montrezel Harrell. Yeah, meh.

[spurraider21]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
whats the point of these posts you make all the time?

[cutewizard]

fashion elegance arrives to Spursland!!!!!!!!


yyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Carrolllllllllllllll!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

whats the point of these posts you make all the time?


-----------

insight generating pause, hmmmmmm?

lol

:elephant

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9DTsRBtiM

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPyjD51i-e4



what a fashionable human, hehehehe

[BD24]

Good signing.

Decent player on a pretty cheap deal that fits a need we have.

[Marcus Bryant]

White and Murray should get a healthy chunk of minutes next season.

[wildcardX]

Dude Spurs always seem to sign a guy thats damn near washed up.

Yeah, they squeeze every last ounce out of a guy then in a year or two get the next almost washed up guy. Solid pick up and he came for cheap.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGaKgGDPB0

[cutewizard]

Do we have money left for another player guys??

[benefactor]

Jesus cutewizard take your lithium

[wildcardX]

I think White is more trustworthy handling the ball
I hope Dejounte shows equal or better but I am not sure I trust Dejounte until he proves it
Before he got hurt he was showing positive signs
Preference is that they can find a way to both work

Dejounte probably will get limited minutes even if he starts. Probably would need preseason and the first one or two months of reg season to get in game shape. Not conditioning wise but more in rhythm and chemistry with teammates and playing at game speed.

[benefactor]

Anyway, it's a nice vet signing at a good price. Definitely filled a need.

[GB20]

Jesus cutewizard take your lithium

:lol

[Ron Swanson]

Jesus cutewizard take your lithium

:lmao

[ace3g]

BzW3TKSHJ7M

[cutewizard]

:hungry:

[slick'81]

Junkyard dog

[Stump]

Do we have money left for another player guys??
We didn't use all the MLE, so we could still sign someone starting at about 3 mil a year for up to 4 years. If we utilize pay increases every year, that could get around a 3.5 mil annual salary.

We don't have great high-end talent, but we are deep, so I don't know if we'll even use it. I suppose we could either sign a young European project (Milutinov?) or wait and maybe use it on a mid-season buyout candidate.

[r0drig0lac]

Jesus cutewizard take your lithium

haha

[DPG21920]

Spurs already adding Murray and Walker to the mix next season. Carroll takes care of the backup 3 and can slide to 4. Next need to add a 4/5.

Can’t unless something changes. Waive Metu or trade away someone

[mookie2001]

I’m worried he’s not getting enough easy buckets, dunks and layups when he’s shooting 39%. I had to triple check his game logs and yeah he shot 39% last year

[DAF86]

I see this as a much more realistic lineup than anything else I've seen posted in this thread.

Literally three posts above :lol


I think it makes more sense to start him. The idea of signing a veteran "3 and D" player is to buy you some minutes wearing down the other teams' best player at the start of each half.

I think a nominal starting spot playing 18/20 minutes is the most reasonable role for Carroll.

Rotation I would like to see:

Murray, White, DeRozan, Carroll, Aldridge

Forbes, Walker, Bertans, Gay, Poeltl

Rotation Pop Will probably play (barring more moves):

Murray, Forbes, DeRozan, Carroll, Aldridge

White, Mills, Belinelli, Gay, Poeltl

[Mugen]

Good signing. It would have been even better last summer when me and a bunch of other posters said they should go after him.....

:lol This f'n FO and the pop suckers always being a year behind...

[cutewizard]

:bobo:bobo

[MannyIsGod]

Literally three posts above :lol

Sorry man didn't see it. Good call.

[MoSpur02]

This guy sure does like to post a lot of pictures of his funky outfits with a hashtag of SrSwagdaddyy.

[KayBee]

Yes X 1 thousand. So much more appealing than 3 years of Aminu, or someone similar.
Great signing, when considering the alternatives.

[Darkwaters]

nba finals bound

You can't be in the Finals every year. This is a good bridge signing while the team develops its wealth of young talent and waits for 2021 when they'll have enough cap space for two max free agents.

[Darkwaters]

Yeah, at this point Carroll is more of an ilusion of a 3 and D player than a reality, but at least he isn't Cunningham or Pondexter. Hopefully PATFO can find the next Danny Green to mold into that real 3 and D player we so desperately need but for the time being Carroll should do.

I think that was kind of the point of drafting Keldon Johnson, wasn't it?

[DAF86]

I think that was kind of the point of drafting Keldon Johnson, wasn't it?

Johnson doesn't have the size needed.

[crc21209]

IMO it’s a good signing for what was out there. Aminu was gone and so was Young, so I’ll take Carroll. He brings some length and size to our team that’s filled with some undersized guards. We basically needed someone to spot Rudy a couple breathers a game and I think Carroll can provide that and then some.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1145779739048759296

[Darkwaters]

Johnson doesn't have the size needed.

To be a 3 and D wing? Nonsense.

Danny Green had a 6'10 wingspan and a 8'7 standing reach
Keldon Johnson has a 6'9.25 wingspan and a 8'8 standing reach

[Spurtacular]

Now cut Mills.

[GAustex]

Now cut Mills.
Or trade him for some Cheetos the hot kind

[DAF86]

To be a 3 and D wing? Nonsense.

Danny Green had a 6'10 wingspan and a 8'7 standing reach
Keldon Johnson has a 6'9.25 wingspan and a 8'8 standing reach

Danny Green couldn't guard the Durants, Lebrons, Georges, Giannises and Kawhis of this World.

[Pavlov]

Danny Green couldn't guard the Durants, Lebrons, Georges, Giannises and Kawhis of this World.Who can to the level it would make any difference?

[DAF86]

Who can to the level it would make any difference?

"Any" difference? Depending who guards those guys you can find many differences. If Lebron is guarded by Mills you will have a result, if he's guarded by Green another and if he's guarded by Kawhi another.

To guard those big SF's a 6'6" SG won't be enough most times.

[cool cat]

Danny Green couldn't guard the Durants, Lebrons, Georges, Giannises and Kawhis of this World.

Those aren't really wings they are forwards.

[DAF86]

Those aren't really wings they are forwards.

Small forwards are wings.

[cool cat]

Small forwards are wings.

The game has changed so much in the last 3-5 years that most those players play Power forward.

[Pavlov]

"Any" difference? Depending who guards those guys you can find many differences. If Lebron is guarded by Mills you will have a result, if he's guarded by Green another and if he's guarded by Kawhi another.

To guard those big SF's a 6'6" SG won't be enough most times.You didn't answer the question.

[DAF86]

You didn't answer the question.

I did. You just need better reading comprehension skills.

[DAF86]

The game has changed so much in the last 3-5 years that most those players play Power forward.

And they still play like wings.

[Pavlov]

I did. You just need better reading comprehension skills.No. You need to answer the question.

I asked you for names. I got a random bitch from you.

Who can guard those players to the level it would make any difference?

[DAF86]

No. You need to answer the question.

I asked you for names. I got a random bitch from you.

Who can guard those players to the level it would make any difference?

There you go son

https://fadeawayworld.net/2018/05/14/the-best-defenders-against-lebron-james-over-the-past-5-seasons/

[Chinook]

Danny Green couldn't guard the Durants, Lebrons, Georges, Giannises and Kawhis of this World.

Eh, he's always been able to guard George well enough, and he'd probably be able to guard Leonard if they ever find themselves on opposite teams. He even used to be fine on Durant back in the day. Lebron and Giannis are both PFs who had the athleticism to warrant wing defenders. There's no shame in Green or Johnson not guarding those guys. That's what guys like Carroll are for.

[Pavlov]

There you go son

https://fadeawayworld.net/2018/05/14/the-best-defenders-against-lebron-james-over-the-past-5-seasons/Wow, the two best players in the NBA and the best defensive player in the NBA.

That's one.

Now do the rest of the players you listed.

And what are PJ Tucker's measurements BTW?

Thanks in advance.

[DAF86]

Eh, he's always been able to guard George well enough, and he'd probably be able to guard Leonard if they ever find themselves on opposite teams. He even used to be fine on Durant back in the day. Lebron and Giannis are both PFs who had the athleticism to warrant wing defenders. There's no shame in Green or Johnson not guarding those guys. That's what guys like Carroll are for.

That's exactly what I'm saying, but Pavlov got into his usual mind numbing arguative mode for some reason.

[Pavlov]

That's exactly what I'm saying, but Pavlov got into his usual mind numbing arguative mode for some reason.Oh, so Carroll is fine.

Problem solved, apparently.

Let us never speak of this again.:tu

[Chinook]

That's exactly what I'm saying, but Pavlov (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343) got into his usual mind numbing arguative mode for some reason.

I think it's foolish to expect one guy to check all of those players. Maybe Pippen could. Maybe Leonard can. Maybe Hunter will be able to. But especially in the modern NBA, it doesn't make sense to have a designated "stopper" anyway. Just have good defensive players at all levels and a unit that understands the game plan and how to cover for each other. Johnson can do that and be just as big of a part of it as Murray, White or Poeltl. You don't put him on an island with James and Giannis and expect him to come out ahead, but you also don't avoid playing him at SF because he can't guard someone as big as Karl Malone or David Robinson. You put your power-forward on them and know that Johnson should be fine against the Middletons or Kuzmas of the world.

[DAF86]

Wow, the two best players in the NBA and the best defensive player in the NBA.

Cool last second edit, tbh. :lol


And what are PJ Tucker's measurements BTW?

Thanks in advance.

6'6" but thick like a PF. Still, he was the worst defender of the bunch.


That's one.

Now do the rest of the players you listed.

Nop, I'm off to bed. i have to work tomorrow. Stay scratching that pathological arguative itch with someone else, tbh. Good night.

[timtonymanu]

Chump gets so bothered by anything :lol.

[Pavlov]

Cool last second edit, tbh. :lol



6'6" but thick like a PF. Still, he was the worst defender of the bunch.



Nop, I'm off to bed. i have to work tomorrow. Stay scratching that pathological arguative itch with someone else, tbh. Good night.Nope. You said problem solved.

And we didn't even have to get the best player in the league.:tu

[DAF86]

Oh, so Carroll is fine.

Problem solved, apparently.

Let us never speak of this again.:tu

It's fine-ish, tbh. Too old to be a real full time stopper. That's why I said I was fine with the hiring but I hoped PATFO could find a younger 3 and D guy. If you weren't so jumpy about coming to PATFO's defense at every little opportunity, you should have seen that, tbh.

Anyway, bye for real now. I don't want to regret staying up on ST tomorrow. :lol

[Pavlov]

It's fine-ish, tbh. Too old to be a real full time stopper. That's why I said I was fine with the hiring but I hoped PATFO could find a younger 3 and D guy. If you weren't so jumpy about coming to PATFO's defense at every little opportunity, you should have seen that, tbh.

Anyway, bye for real now. I don't want to regret staying up on ST tomorrow. :lolProblem solved:tu

[SpursGenius]

Senile crater face will play

Mills belinelli demare demar forbes
in crunch time

[Drewlius]

I fucking love this signing, instantly the best wing defender on the team. If Murray has improved his range as much everyone says, then let this man space the floor in the Bowen corner. It goes without saying that this will open room for LMA and Derozan to operate in the mid range.

[YGWHI]

I like this move. He shot .37 and .34% from 3 in last two seasons with the Nets. I guess he will get ton of better open looks on Spurs offense.

Plus, it will be nice to have a guy that can hit a 3-point shot in Spurs' starting lineup since Murray/Derozan/LMA don't do it very often.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1146546999027752962

BzeJrbrHcwY

[JuneJive]

What's with the purse?

[slick'81]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1146546999027752962

BzeJrbrHcwY


Hell fit right in with gay

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1146546999027752962

BzeJrbrHcwY

Jesus

[look_at_g_shred]

Jesus
Bro chill, I could hear the fapping from here.

[DAF86]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1146546999027752962

BzeJrbrHcwY

NBA players gotta be trolling with this shit. :lol

[DAF86]

If I get caught off guard walking on the streets, I would think he is a drag at first glance, tbh.

[hombre]

So many dudes on this forum care about how other dudes dress.

[DAF86]

So many dudes on this forum care about how other dudes dress.

You got that from a couple cheeky comments on the internet? :lol

[NASpurs]

I need to bleach my eyes. Can't unsee.

[Stump]

Is it too late to revoke the offer? :lol

[ZeusWillJudge]

So many dudes on this forum care about how other dudes dress.

Dudes? Who the fuck says dudes?

That outfit looks like Bi-Curious George.

[NASpurs]

You guys are missing the caption along with it:

"Silk is a fine, delicate, soft, illuminating, beautiful substance..... Are you enjoying your SILK this summer?!?! Well...SRSWAGDADDY is enjoying his...because he does this EVERYDAY...����#♂️��������"

Holy fuck.

[Ice009]

He's into fashion from what I read. He's worn some pretty funky outfits in the past, this might be one of the worst, though.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think it's foolish to expect one guy to check all of those players. Maybe Pippen could. Maybe Leonard can. Maybe Hunter will be able to. But especially in the modern NBA, it doesn't make sense to have a designated "stopper" anyway. Just have good defensive players at all levels and a unit that understands the game plan and how to cover for each other. Johnson can do that and be just as big of a part of it as Murray, White or Poeltl. You don't put him on an island with James and Giannis and expect him to come out ahead, but you also don't avoid playing him at SF because he can't guard someone as big as Karl Malone or David Robinson. You put your power-forward on them and know that Johnson should be fine against the Middletons or Kuzmas of the world.


He's an incremental improvement. The Spurs weren't going to get a guy who guards the opponents' best player every night for the MLE.

I'd like to see him get his 3P% back up to at least his career average of .360. But even at the .342 he shot last year, I'd give him 100% of Belli's minutes without hesitation - he's a MUCH better defender than Belli, and he gets to the line twice as much as Belli. His net contribution will be much more than Belli's.

Incremental improvement.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Dudes? Who the fuck says dudes?

That outfit looks like Bi-Curious George.It's a lot better than a dumbass saying nigga.

[MoSpur02]

Does he have lip gloss or lipstick on? SMH

[GreekSpursfan]

https://twitter.com/DeMarreCarroll1/status/1146546999027752962

BzeJrbrHcwY


While others are preoccupied with his outfit i like the fact that he's slim af meaning he still is taking care of his body, very good proffecional.

[Pavlov]

What's with the purse?IT'S EUROPEAN