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DC23
07-03-2019, 04:02 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146514603767152641

This summer the Suns managed to give away Josh Jackson and TJ Warren and get nothing in return.

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07-03-2019, 04:16 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1146514603767152641

This summer the Suns managed to give away Josh Jackson and TJ Warren and get nothing in return.

Wow, Melton! They talked highly of him all season. Now? They'll call him everything but a black man.

They were warned repeatedly & at length about Jackson & refused to abide. Their regrets are their own. I've no sympathy for them.

baseline bum
07-03-2019, 04:24 PM
Drunkford really wanted Josh Jackson at the draft for some reason.

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07-03-2019, 04:30 PM
https://arizonasports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DgU510FVQAID8PK.jpg

A year ago. tee, hee.

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07-03-2019, 04:32 PM
Notice how they dumped this news on the other side of noon on a major national holiday eve.

TDMVPDPOY
07-03-2019, 05:26 PM
memphis stocking up on draft picks

clearly they on a full rebuild with a turn around around 20/21 season to get back into the picture of playoffs?

Will Hunting
07-03-2019, 08:01 PM
Josh Jackson definitely wasn't a great pick, but he had more value than this. The cap space isn't getting used anywhere else, so it even makes more sense to hold onto him for another year to see if there's any more development.

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07-03-2019, 08:07 PM
Josh Jackson definitely wasn't a great pick, but he had more value than this. The cap space isn't getting used anywhere else, so it even makes more sense to hold onto him for another year to see if there's any more development.

The straw that broke the camel's back was the story about his son's mother accusing him of blow pot smoke in the baby's face and getting him high. Who knows if it was true but the optics were ugly. & he was never recalcitrant about his mistakes. Not a word of remorse.

Will Hunting
07-03-2019, 08:09 PM
The straw that broke the camel's back was the story about his son's mother accusing him of blow pot smoke in the baby's face and getting him high. Who knows if it was true but the optics were ugly. & he was never recalcitrant about his mistakes. Not a word of remorse.
To your point, he had character issues like that coming out of school. If you found that kind of shit bothersome, don't draft him. If you do draft him, you should be walking into the situation with some patience knowing he's going to do stupid shit on and off the court until he grows up.

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07-03-2019, 08:11 PM
To your point, he had character issues like that coming out of school. If you found that kind of shit bothersome, don't draft him. If you do draft him, you should be walking into the situation with some patience knowing he's going to do stupid shit on and off the court until he grows up.

True. They kept changing Head Coaches & GM's his entire time here. That didn't help. New HC Monty Williams was going to try and (fix him) when the pot smoking popped up.

Will Hunting
07-03-2019, 08:16 PM
True. They kept changing Head Coaches & GM's his entire time here. That didn't help. New HC Monty Williams was going to try and (fix him) when the pot smoking popped up.
Exactly. The Suns organization isn't exactly a bedrock of stability. You can be pretty sure anyone who walks into it who has issues is only going to get worse.

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07-03-2019, 08:20 PM
Exactly. The Suns organization isn't exactly a bedrock of stability. You can be pretty sure anyone who walks into it who has issues is only going to get worse.

Great materiel, Will.

Jeremy
07-03-2019, 09:32 PM
Josh Jackson definitely wasn't a great pick, but he had more value than this. The cap space isn't getting used anywhere else, so it even makes more sense to hold onto him for another year to see if there's any more development.

Moving Jackson was the only way to clear enough space to sign Rubio—other than stretching Tyler Johnson which they didn’t want to do even to get Russell. Dumping both Melton and Okobo still left them about $800k short.

baseline bum
07-03-2019, 09:35 PM
Moving Jackson was the only way to clear enough space to sign Rubio

Even more reason not to do the trade :lol

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-04-2019, 08:11 AM
Drunkford really wanted Josh Jackson at the draft for some reason.

ST has a collective hard on for trading LMA for the pick and selecting Josh Jackson.

313
07-04-2019, 09:18 AM
I know he’s a headcase like Cousins, but at least Cousins was talented. Josh was the #1 prospect out of HS and then played pretty well in college. Wonder why he cant put it all together at the NBA level.

baseline bum
07-04-2019, 09:29 AM
I know he’s a headcase like Cousins, but at least Cousins was talented. Josh was the #1 prospect out of HS and then played pretty well in college. Wonder why he cant put it all together at the NBA level.

It'll be interesting to see if he pulls a D'Angelo Russell and becomes a good player after escaping a shit organization.

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07-04-2019, 11:38 AM
It'll be interesting to see if he pulls a D'Angelo Russell and becomes a good player after escaping a shit organization.

Your organization did the opposite with Leonard. tee, hee.

phxspurfan
07-04-2019, 01:49 PM
Your organization did the opposite with Leonard. tee, hee.

?? We developed Leonard then won a championship whilst he utterly destroyed the current leader of your franchise. Years ago, when LeBron was a much better player. Hard to knock that

He went on to another team and won another ring, but he was the same player here.

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07-04-2019, 02:09 PM
?? We developed Leonard then won a championship whilst he utterly destroyed the current leader of your franchise. Years ago, when LeBron was a much better player. Hard to knock that

He went on to another team and won another ring, but he was the same player here.

He repudiated you, in broad daylight. You ain't walkin' away from that, bub. No-fuckin'-way.

phxspurfan
07-04-2019, 02:18 PM
He repudiated you, in broad daylight. You ain't walkin' away from that, bub. No-fuckin'-way.

Shall we begin


Russell became a good player after leaving a shit organization, and so did Leonard with the Spurs?


Spurs lost their starting PG at the beginning of the season and still made it to the last minute of game 7 against the 2 seed in the stacked West. All while your boy Kobe Jr. tried to trade the entire team publicly mid-season, then gave up on the team to start planning a comic book movie about outer space basketball players.

With all those years of being completely irrelevant, your team only drafted two (2) good players and let them BOTH go for nothing (Russell and Randle). Then gave the keys to the franchise to the son of Big Baller Brand.

Then hired Magic, and a year before he quit on your/his hometown team (quite publicly I might add), Magic begged LeBron to come over and make your team Cavaliers West.

Then they struck out on hiring Fucking Tyron Lue. Couldn’t get fucking Tyron Lue my dude.

What else...got fleeced by the cross town clippers for another one of your good young prospects (Zubac) for nothing. I could go on but wow

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07-04-2019, 02:26 PM
Shall we begin


Russell became a good player after leaving a shit organization, and so did Leonard with the Spurs?


Spurs lost their starting PG at the beginning of the season and still made it to the last minute of game 7 against the 2 seed in the stacked West. All while your boy Kobe Jr. tried to trade the entire team publicly mid-season, then gave up on the team to start planning a comic book movie about outer space basketball players.

With all those years of being completely irrelevant, your team only drafted two (2) good players and let them BOTH go for nothing (Russell and Randle). Then gave the keys to the franchise to the son of Big Baller Brand.

Then hired Magic, and a year before he quit on your/his hometown team (quite publicly I might add), Magic begged LeBron to come over and make your team Cavaliers West.

Then they struck out on hiring Fucking Tyron Lue. Couldn’t get fucking Tyron Lue my dude.

What else...got fleeced by the cross town clippers for another one of your good young prospects (Zubac) for nothing. I could go on but wow

Boiled down:::Leonard

Killakobe81
07-04-2019, 04:32 PM
Drunkford really wanted Josh Jackson at the draft for some reason.

So did Deeps...
But DPG owned that miscalculation...

Killakobe81
07-04-2019, 04:33 PM
I know he’s a headcase like Cousins, but at least Cousins was talented. Josh was the #1 prospect out of HS and then played pretty well in college. Wonder why he cant put it all together at the NBA level.



He was up and down in college.. I saw to much Marvin Williams imho

Spurtacular
07-04-2019, 05:36 PM
Were they taking to many shots? Booker got to get his 50's while the team loses by 30.

spurraider21
07-04-2019, 07:50 PM
Were they taking to many shots? Booker got to get his 50's while the team loses by 30.
chucking to score 50 in blowout nba losses is almost as embarrassing as going to china to score 50

venitian navigator
07-05-2019, 04:43 AM
I don't like Memphis 'cause they have a sort of big rivalry problem against us, but I frankly really appreciate how they are moving forward...this one is a low risk high reward move. and actually, based on their chances to sign back their own players, they look like a team not that far from playoffs...just one year into potential rebuilding season (first year with no Conley/Gasol aka their only two stars of last decade).
Take a look at their potential roster:

pg. Morant - (Delon Wright)
sg Bradley - Jackson - Miles - Allen
f Caboclo - Crowder - Iguodala - (J. Holiday) - Melton
pf Clarke - K. Anderson - S. Hill - Rabb (jm Green) - Watanabe
c Jackson - Valenciunas



they just miss something at back up point guard but Wright, if resigned, is more than decent at it...for the rest they have two future stars (Morant/Jackson), a very talented reclamation project at a potential star level (the newly acquired Jackson) and a lot of promising young guys or valuable vetarans in specific complementary roles...I wouldn't be surprised if they have a good season...

Jeremy
07-05-2019, 03:26 PM
I don't like Memphis 'cause they have a sort of big rivalry problem against us, but I frankly really appreciate how they are moving forward...this one is a low risk high reward move. and actually, based on their chances to sign back their own players, they look like a team not that far from playoffs...just one year into potential rebuilding season (first year with no Conley/Gasol aka their only two stars of last decade).
Take a look at their potential roster:

pg. Morant - (Delon Wright)
sg Bradley - Jackson - Miles - Allen
f Caboclo - Crowder - Iguodala - (J. Holiday) - Melton
pf Clarke - K. Anderson - S. Hill - Rabb (jm Green) - Watanabe
c Jackson - Valenciunas



they just miss something at back up point guard but Wright, if resigned, is more than decent at it...for the rest they have two future stars (Morant/Jackson), a very talented reclamation project at a potential star level (the newly acquired Jackson) and a lot of promising young guys or valuable vetarans in specific complementary roles...I wouldn't be surprised if they have a good season...

Melton is a point guard.

illmatic
07-05-2019, 06:04 PM
Wow, Melton! They talked highly of him all season. Now? They'll call him everything but a black man.

They were warned repeatedly & at length about Jackson & refused to abide. Their regrets are their own. I've no sympathy for them.

I'm just glad Ryan's finally out of the picture.

illmatic
07-05-2019, 06:05 PM
The straw that broke the camel's back was the story about his son's mother accusing him of blow pot smoke in the baby's face and getting him high. Who knows if it was true but the optics were ugly. & he was never recalcitrant about his mistakes. Not a word of remorse.

This right here. Josh Jackson was a complete dumbass, time to admit the mistake and move on.

illmatic
07-05-2019, 06:08 PM
It'll be interesting to see if he pulls a D'Angelo Russell and becomes a good player after escaping a shit organization.

Not gonna happen. He can't shoot, he's a malcontent, he thinks he's better than he really is. He wasn't even the 3rd best small forward on the team. Good riddance.

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07-05-2019, 06:11 PM
Not gonna happen. He can't shoot, he's a malcontent, he thinks he's better than he really is. He wasn't even the 3rd best small forward on the team. Good riddance.

Exactly. He refused to see the light, and you know damn good & well a myriad of people tried talking to him representing the Suns. Sure it ain't life & death, but, it's a tragedy.

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07-05-2019, 06:12 PM
I'm just glad Ryan's finally out of the picture.

That's Burns guys that teams with Gambo in the afternoon called him a "Rock Star" when he was hired. lol!!!

illmatic
07-05-2019, 06:16 PM
That's Burns guys that teams with Gambo in the afternoon called him a "Rock Star" when he was hired. lol!!!

Burns annoys me more than Gambo for some reason. Remember when those two idiots lauded the 2016 draft? Christ. Every move that idiot made with the exception of falling ass backwards into Booker was terrible.

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07-05-2019, 07:28 PM
Burns annoys me more than Gambo for some reason. Remember when those two idiots lauded the 2016 draft? Christ. Every move that idiot made with the exception of falling ass backwards into Booker was terrible.

Yep. You can't take anything those hosts say as their real opinion. Everything is ordered up thru the teams and given to them to report. Very little of import is off the cuff.