Why don't people give Kawhi credit for his 2014 FMVP?

[Rusty]

People saying he was just a roleplayer in that finals series.

Yeah he only scored 9 points in the first 2 games, but he scored 29, 24, 20 in the last 3 games.

He was also guarding Lebron James the entire series. That's all-star performance right there. Why are the haters disrespecting Kawhi?

[Thread]

Because it's a door stopper, an eBay Item, a dust collector, a pretty, brix-brack.

I've been tellin' ya silly SOBs since I lit here:::Make the playoffs. Win the last game you play. There is nothing else.

TELLIN'!!!!!!!!!

[MultiTroll]

People saying he was just a roleplayer in that finals series.
Outside of butthurt SpursFan are people saying this?

That Timmy Duncan should have gotten it holds some merit. But Kwa had just as good if not better all around game so...

[SpurSpike]

Because he WAS a role player back then, basically the whole team was role players because the stars were mostly past their prime. Its why you saw the "beautiful game".

[Bynumite]

I actually rank his FMVP with the spurs over the one with Toronto, due to the fact that he carried TOSB Jim to his 5th. That's a huge accolade on Kiwi's resume imho.

[LkrFan]

I actually rank his FMVP with the spurs over the one with Toronto, due to the fact that he carried TOSB Jim to his 5th. That's a huge accolade on Kiwi's resume imho.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Laker_1995]

If anything Diaw contributed the same as kawahi. He could have won it too. Duncan so unselfish he gave it to the young buck. But fuck that spurs team was a well oiled machine

[KobesAchilles]

I give credit for his Finals MVP. He deserved it. He had an amazing last 3 games of the series and set the tone for the team in games 3&4. However, I take issue when people say he led the Spurs to a title. He didn’t do that bc honestly he was mediocre in every other series.

[RC_Drunkford]

Cause he wasn't a #1 option. He got his 20 within the motion offense, that was the best Team Basketball ever played in the last 2-3 decades

[Millennial_Messiah]

Outside of butthurt SpursFan are people saying this?

That Timmy Duncan should have gotten it holds some merit. But Kwa had just as good if not better all around game so...

Tim would have gotten it in 2013 if Spurs had held on.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Aside... nobody felt more pain over 6 than Tracy McGrady

[Spurtacular]

Aside... nobody felt more pain over 6 than Tracy McGrady

He said it wouldn't have meant anything to him b/c he did nothing to help the team win; but that's probably a half truth. He surely was disappointed.

[timtonymanu]

People don’t discredit him getting the Finals MVP. It’s the illusion that he was in 2011 Dirk mode the entire playoffs. There wasn’t a clear cut 1st option that entire run. Duncan, Manu, Green, Diaw were also just as important. But let people go on with their revisionist history.

[Millennial_Messiah]

He said it wouldn't have meant anything to him b/c he did nothing to help the team win; but that's probably a half truth. He surely was disappointed.

Career second round virgin as a starter; made the WCSF Game 7 once in '09 on the IR, and damn near won a ring to show for his career in '13 as a garbage time ballhog. I'd say he was disappointed. He sure had a disappointing career despite all the potential.

[Mr. Body]

Popovich was the Finals MVP. Once he figured out the Heat defense and put them in the blender, it was over.

[Kawhitstorm]

People don’t discredit him getting the Finals MVP. It’s the illusion that he was in 2011 Dirk mode the entire playoffs. There wasn’t a clear cut 1st option that entire run. Duncan, Manu, Green, Diaw were also just as important. But let people go on with their revisionist history.

LMAO, who said he was lights out the entire playoffs? If anything most folks compare it to Iggy's '15 MVP when Kawhi was actually being defended by LeBron instead of being dared to shoot while being ignored by Mozgov.:lol

Folks also try to discredit his defense claiming PEAK LeBron averaged 28 on 57% shooting when he was Harrison Barnes status w/ Kawhi as his primary defender & stat padded in garbage time in the final 3 games. LeBron also had just as many turnovers as assists in the series b/c he being guarded 1-on-1.

But...but...but....Iggy did a better job. '15 LeBron was very inefficient against the Bulls WITH a healthy Kyrie & performed better against the Duds while actually playing 1-on-5. He destroyed Iggy for the following 3 finals matchups.

Kawhi in the '14 Finals was just as good as KG in the '08 Finals, '15 Iggy is a false equivalence.

[Kawhitstorm]

Popovich was the Finals MVP. Once he figured out the Heat defense and put them in the blender, it was over.

Yeah the solution was asking Kawhi to be aggressive on offense & he delivered:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmDkBoqOu-0

[Neo.]

because the real MVP of that series was obviously Wade

manu was more deserving imo as well

[313]

Because when you don't defend your title, people view it as less legitimate. One and done, lightning in a bottle type deal.

[Thread]

Because when you don't defend your title, people view it as less legitimate. One and done, lightning in a bottle type deal.

& in cruel fashion you were defending your 5th NBA Title. Bitterly you had to win it a 2nd time.

& lettin' Ray Allen get in there in your kitchen & eat your lunch like that. The cold-hearted SOB did ya dirt & you know what kind of dirt, the worst kind:::damnable dirt.

& you'd done an admirable job of scaring the bejeesus outta James there, nullifying his frightened ass. A scrum ensues & just like that I'm straightened out.

ha, ha.

[Laker_1995]

Because when you don't defend your title, people view it as less legitimate. One and done, lightning in a bottle type deal.


Yes sir. Lucked out and dipped.

[313]

& in cruel fashion you were defending your 5th NBA Title. Bitterly you had to win it a 2nd time.

& lettin' Ray Allen get in there in your kitchen & eat your lunch like that. The cold-hearted SOB did ya dirt & you know what kind of dirt, the worst kind:::damnable dirt.

& you'd done an admirable job of scaring the bejeesus outta James there, nullifying his frightened ass. A scrum ensues & just like that I'm straightened out.

ha, ha.coming back and winning the next year was damn impressive, cub

Tim: 5
Kobe: 5

Tim: 3
Kobe: ​2

[313]

Yes sir. Lucked out and dipped.
If Kawhi wins another one with the Clippers this year or the next, it’ll be interesting how it’s viewed by the fans. He has a strange career so far.

[Laker_1995]

coming back and winning the next year was damn impressive, cub

Tim: 5
Kobe: 5

Tim: 3
Kobe: ​2

i remember the interview before the 2014 finals. Duncan was fucken mad lmao I’ve never really seen him like that with the media and from there you knew Miami was done

[Thread]

coming back and winning the next year was damn impressive, cub

Tim: 5
Kobe: 5

Tim: 3
Kobe: ​2

But, '13 & '14 are two distinctly different events. Total waste & loss in '13. '14 is a ring. Each one has no effect on the other's place in history. They're completely unattached. '14 doesn't lessen the loss of '13. & '13 can't, or, (should not) be used as a means to an end/'14.

[Thread]

i remember the interview before the 2014 finals. Duncan was fucken mad lmao I’ve never really seen him like that with the media and from there you knew Miami was done

Because he was no longer distracted by his estrangement from his wife. His wounds weren't completely healed, but, they were no longer sending messages to his physiological "motherboard." He'd become (still). He was able to see (clearly) now..."To be honest, and I won't admit this to another living soul, but, I'm better off."

It was over.

The timing of this Duncan event was exquisite. Did (she) mark the time, this timing,,,we'll never know, but, the real results are in the books.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Because he was no longer distracted by his estrangement from his wife. His wounds weren't completely healed, but, they were no longer sending messages to his physiological "motherboard." He'd become (still). He was able to see (clearly) now..."To be honest, and I won't admit this to another living soul, but, I'm better off."

It was over.

The timing of this Duncan event was exquisite. Did (she) mark the time, this timing,,,we'll never know, but, the real results are in the books.
Duncan didn't lose 6. He had 32 & 17 and could have easily had the game-sealing 18th if Pizza Face hadn't been an all-time dumbass.

[phxspurfan]

LeBron was still great in that series. It's not like Kawhi held him to zero. These were his stat lines

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-finals-heat-vs-spurs.html

game 1
LeBron 9/17 25pts 6rb 3ast 3stl 4TO
Kawhi 3/5 9pts 2rb 1stl 4TO

game 2
LeBron 14/22 35pts 10rb 3ast 2stl 4TO
Kawhi 3/9 9pts 2rb 3ast 1stl 0TO

game 3
LeBron 9/14 22pts 5rb 7ast 5stl 7TO
Kawhi 10/13 29pts 4rb 2ast 2stl 2blk 1TO

game 4
LeBron 10/17 28pts 8rb 2ast 3TO
Kawhi 7/12 20pts 14rb 3ast 3stl 3blk 1TO

game 5
LeBron 10/21 31pts 10rb 5ast 2blk 1TO
Kawhi 7/10 22pts 10rb 2ast 1stl 1blk 3TO



...that and Kawhi's an autistic fgt.

[Thread]

that and Kawhi's an autistic fgt.

Though he had enough on the ball to get under your skin & out of town. How you could let him escape is criminal.

[313]

LeBron was still great in that series. It's not like Kawhi held him to zero. These were his stat lines

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2014-nba-finals-heat-vs-spurs.html

game 1
LeBron 9/17 25pts 6rb 3ast 3stl 4TO
Kawhi 3/5 9pts 2rb 1stl 4TO

game 2
LeBron 14/22 35pts 10rb 3ast 2stl 4TO
Kawhi 3/9 9pts 2rb 3ast 1stl 0TO

game 3
LeBron 9/14 22pts 5rb 7ast 5stl 7TO
Kawhi 10/13 29pts 4rb 2ast 2stl 2blk 1TO

game 4
LeBron 10/17 28pts 8rb 2ast 3TO
Kawhi 7/12 20pts 14rb 3ast 3stl 3blk 1TO

game 5
LeBron 10/21 31pts 10rb 5ast 2blk 1TO
Kawhi 7/10 22pts 10rb 2ast 1stl 1blk 3TO



...that and Kawhi's an autistic fgt.While I don’t expect any star player to sit the fourth quarter of an NBA finals game, Lebron essentially stat padded the last three games.