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timvp
07-09-2019, 03:41 PM
1148692976949846016

lmbebo
07-09-2019, 03:42 PM
bastard ... guess thats the reason for the other thread about Belli trade?

jeebus
07-09-2019, 03:42 PM
:lmao

Robz4000
07-09-2019, 03:42 PM
:lmao

Degoat
07-09-2019, 03:43 PM
Ahhh man wtf!?

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:43 PM
Wow. Pretty terrible news. Especially because the free agent market is now empty.

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 03:43 PM
WTF this is BS. We literally traded a player to get him and he pulls this?

DesignatedT
07-09-2019, 03:44 PM
LOL fn terrible.

cd98
07-09-2019, 03:44 PM
Aren’t the Knocks supposed to save their assets for a stupid Westbrook trade?

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 03:44 PM
He'd rather play for the Knicks????

emanueldavidginobili
07-09-2019, 03:44 PM
Wow sucks big time tbh

Chinook
07-09-2019, 03:44 PM
Milutinov coming over by default

BWS-1994
07-09-2019, 03:45 PM
Did PATFO move on, now that Bellineli is being shopped again?

emanueldavidginobili
07-09-2019, 03:45 PM
He'd rather play for the Knicks????
He’s from Philly and they’re going to give him more money, he’s gone smh

Dverde
07-09-2019, 03:45 PM
Morris twin doing Morris twin stuff. Probably wanted RC’s watch added to the deal.

look_at_g_shred
07-09-2019, 03:46 PM
LOL

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 03:46 PM
Wow what the actual fuck. Do we really want this guy now after all then? Seems like an incredibly bad omen.

Dverde
07-09-2019, 03:46 PM
He must have talked to Korver’s wife :lol

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 03:46 PM
of course

:lmao :lmao

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 03:47 PM
Looks like Knicks are offering 1 year 15 mill.

Dr. John R. Brinkley
07-09-2019, 03:47 PM
Holy shit. So the Knicks weasled in?

Player empowerment! Ughh.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 03:47 PM
:lmao after changing carroll's deal and trading bertans?

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:47 PM
Gave away Bertans for nothing :shootme

Ron Swanson
07-09-2019, 03:48 PM
Wow. That’s some bullshit since we traded Bertans to free up the MLE.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 03:48 PM
Gave away Bertans for nothing :shootme
and giving carroll a 3rd year

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 03:48 PM
This is actually ridiculous that a player can do this. Spurs made a specific move to get him and now after agreeing he can just leave. This CBA is a joke

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Uncle Dennis Morris must've gotten to him.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Yeah now losing Bertans for nothing really sucks. Who's Morris' agent?

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
So he is considering $15 million for 1 year from the Knicks versus $20 million over 2 years

Eggeye
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
just get the twin.

Dverde
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Holy shit. So the Knicks weasled in?

Player empowerment! Ughh.

He’s like the fourth PF they signed this offseason.

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:49 PM
Lamond Murray 2.0.

Clipper Nation
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Yeah now losing Bertans for nothing really sucks. Who's Morris' agent?

Rich Paul.

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Yeah now losing Bertans for nothing really sucks. Who's Morris' agent?

Klutch.

look_at_g_shred
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Sign Oubre tbh

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Figures its Rich Paul. JFC, fuck that agency.

sammy
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
What a moron! Not sure I want this POS if he decides to honor his agreement w/the Spurs!

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Sign Oubre tbh

He's a RFA. The Suns would match easily.

DAF86
07-09-2019, 03:51 PM
Can they Spurs re-do the Bertans trade if this shit goes down? It would seem only fair.

Cardinal
07-09-2019, 03:51 PM
Unreal.

If this happens, can the Spurs rework the Carroll/Bertans moves to keep Bertans and sign Carroll with the MLE, or are those moves already done?

exstatic
07-09-2019, 03:51 PM
Was this what the supposed rumblings from PATFO in the last day or so was about? Pop doesn't like shit like this at all. Morris will be dead to him. Just ask Arn Tellem.

Oh shit. His agent is Rich Paul.

kobyz
07-09-2019, 03:51 PM
It probably was planed and PATO fall for it

Dr. John R. Brinkley
07-09-2019, 03:51 PM
Klutch is a tampering shitshow.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 03:52 PM
Sign Oubre tbh

What a shit show this has turned into.

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:53 PM
Klutch Sports just now deleted their Instagram post congratulating Morris for signing with the Spurs. Like literally 30 seconds ago.

He gone, tbh.

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 03:53 PM
1148695412317933569

Dr. John R. Brinkley
07-09-2019, 03:54 PM
And Klutch reps Dejounte. Awkward...

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 03:55 PM
didnt think his character concerns would flare up this early, tbh

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 03:55 PM
NBA is a joke, there's no way this crap should happen. The guy made a committment now make him honour it.

John B
07-09-2019, 03:56 PM
I guess that was the rumble about, trading Belli + for SF who can hit the 3. Are we getting Covington? Oubre? Mean that was bizzare

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 03:56 PM
spurs would probably have a valid lawsuit against morris tbh :lol... but no team would ever actually pursue that kind of stuff

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
1148695412317933569

Looks like Reggie Bullock failed his physical so the Knicks are going to use that money to go after Marcus Morris.

That's a 50% pay increase for Morris but sucks for the Spurs. Damn.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
Klutch Sports just now deleted their Instagram post congratulating Morris for signing with the Spurs. Like literally 30 seconds ago.

He gone, tbh.

I mean would the Spurs still want him?

What the fuck are the Knicks actually doing anyway. what the fuck does one year of Marcus Morris do for them?

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
LeBron and his peeps continue to ruin this league. Doesn't surprise me.

kobyz
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
Rich Paul/LeBron revenge for Spurs not willing to trade Kawhi to Lakers last summer

slick'81
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
Karma for all the shit we gave lakers if he cucks us tbh

BWS-1994
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
Spurs getting “Deandre’d”.

Are the Knicks planning an all F/C line up?

WTF.

Dverde
07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
I was surprised the Spurs were open to him. Look at the tax rates dummy. Lebron is probably behind this.

TimmyBuckets
07-09-2019, 03:58 PM
I hate this league.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-09-2019, 03:58 PM
There should be penalties from the league for this kind of shit. Revoke Klutch's agency license for a year or two, no reps for them. :td

Add a tampering fine on top too, fuck that clown show.

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 03:58 PM
Looks like Reggie Bullock failed his physical so the Knicks are going to use that money to go after Marcus Morris.

That's a 50% pay increase for Morris but sucks for the Spurs. Damn.

Contracts should have to be signed not agreed to and there wouldn't be these issues

Harry Callahan
07-09-2019, 03:58 PM
Klutch Sports just now deleted their Instagram post congratulating Morris for signing with the Spurs. Like literally 30 seconds ago.

He gone, tbh.

A player's word now means nothing. Contracts mean nothing either based on the actions of the Neph. Many of these players have no training in how to conduct their business professionally.

The NBA better get their program in order.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 03:58 PM
We would be significantly worse if this happens

timvp
07-09-2019, 03:59 PM
Now the Spurs kinda have to sign Trey Lyles and hope his three-point stroke comes back. :lol :cry :lol

slick'81
07-09-2019, 03:59 PM
I mean would the Spurs still want him?

What the fuck are the Knicks actually doing anyway. what the fuck does one year of Marcus Morris do for them?

theyre the knicks bruh

LaMarcus Bryant
07-09-2019, 03:59 PM
:lol Today's Spurs FO

TimDunkem
07-09-2019, 03:59 PM
The fucking hilarious thing is he will end up losing money because of taxes....Dumb dick move of epic proportions.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Karma for all the shit we gave lakers if he cucks us tbh

Karma for him if he blows his knee out and never plays again. He'll get $15M from the Knicks and not $20M from us.

dubross
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
If the knicks wanted him, why didn't they just get him in the first place?

Spurs da champs
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Sign Ben Moore.

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Smh. I actually thought about this yesterday when news that all the other deals had been completed except his. I figured there was no way and that I was just being paranoid though.

:pctoss

LaMarcus Bryant
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Kawhi has shown the world how stupid spurs FO is, we're finished

duncan2150
07-09-2019, 04:00 PM
I hope the spurs will make a claim for this one, nothing will change but you can’t do that especially if you trade a player to make the move

will be one of the unclassy move ever by an nba player.

That really sucks for us

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 04:01 PM
Now the Spurs kinda have to sign Trey Lyles and hope his three-point stroke comes back. :lol :cry :lol

We're in the darkest of timelines.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:01 PM
Fckn terrible news

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:02 PM
Kawhi has shown the world how stupid spurs FO is, we're finished

How on EARTH do you see the Spurs FO as stupid in this matter?

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:02 PM
Now the Spurs kinda have to sign Trey Lyles and hope his three-point stroke comes back. :lol :cry :lol


This isnt remotely funny tbh

TimmyBuckets
07-09-2019, 04:02 PM
LeBron and his peeps continue to ruin this league. Doesn't surprise me.

Its become a disease.

John B
07-09-2019, 04:02 PM
I guess that was the rumble about, trading Belli + for SF who can hit the 3. Are we getting Covington? Oubre? Mean that was bizzare


Rich Paul/LeBron revenge for Spurs not willing to trade Kawhi to Lakers last summer
That’s bad blood on LeBron, Rich Paul and the Knicks. Real low

Mugen
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
crofl, and this is why you don't sign a Morris twin

lmbebo
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
Should get draft compensation or some shit if a team/player renegs on a deal.

anon
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
Deal wasn't even three days old and a player is already repudiating the Spurs. Did one of the baby Holts drop a colorful comment once again? :lmao

jermaine
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
Fuck that nigga man. I was happy about him but if he dont wanna be here, fuck'em. Bye Felicia

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
The Knicks???? Guy is dumber than I thought.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
We lost a trade piece in bertans and are left with shit now and nothing to go after

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:03 PM
Well, people said there were issues with his character - so there you have it

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Should get draft compensation or some shit if a team/player renegs on a deal.

nope

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Kawhi has shown the world how stupid spurs FO is, we're finished

The whole NBA offseason is based off of players not reneging on their agreements. Not sure how Spurs can be blamed, tbh.

What sucks is the Spurs jumped through hoops to get Morris that contract. Trading away Bertans, giving Carroll more money ... only to get screwed at the end.

But, I mean, what can you do, tbh?

lmbebo
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Its become a disease.

Player empowerment is good. But they all act like effing divas now. F Lebron/Rich Paul/Uncle Dennis/Quitter/PG/etc

Cardinal
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
What exactly are the possible formal/informal consequences for a player/his rep for pulling this type of move? The obvious move would be for the Spurs to blackball Klutch but they've got to deal with them because of Dejounte.

Degoat
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Some major BS

mo7888
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
That sucks.... Now man up and either make a trade for Covington or work a deal with Phoenix for Oubre. Then make room to sign a third big and let's go..

FvckMavs
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
I guess in Vegas Rich Paul asked RC for a max extension for Murray. RC said fuck no so Rich Paul brought this shit.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Honestly? If Dejounte blows up this year, you have to trade him with value high. RP seems to have the red ass after Pop interfered with his AD plans in February by telling Demps not to trade him. If you let him, he'll spike DJ's value like the group did Kawhi's with some sort of demand.

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Why Spurs take the time and didn't sign him close to the agreement?

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 04:05 PM
Kawhi has shown the world how stupid spurs FO is, we're finished


How the fuck do you blame the FO for this?

lmbebo
07-09-2019, 04:05 PM
What exactly are the possible formal/informal consequences for a player/his rep for pulling this type of move? The obvious move would be for the Spurs to blackball Klutch but they've got to deal with them because of Dejounte.

Maybe complicate any extension/deal for Dejonte?

Harry Callahan
07-09-2019, 04:05 PM
Adam Silver needs to step in an do his job. Shoot down the knicks trying to sign this guy.

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
fuck. now we won't finish 7th, but we'll be 8th. sucks...

LakerHater
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
The Knicks :rollin:rollin

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
That sucks.... Now man up and either make a trade for Covington or work a deal with Phoenix for Oubre. Then make room to sign a third big and let's go..


By offering wat

DAF86
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
Contracts should have to be signed not agreed to and there wouldn't be these issues

This. The NBA is pretty fucking retarded in some aspects.

LakerHater
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
I thnk he worried he won't get touches

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:06 PM
PATFO need a revolution, they are done!

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 04:07 PM
The only thing that the Spurs could've done different was hold off on the trade of Bertans and hold off on signing Carroll on that three year deal until Morris actually signed his contract.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:07 PM
There is no recourse. He never signed here. Silver can't do shit, not that he would anyway. NY is a big market.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:07 PM
We literally gave away bertans for nothing

YoungbuckMurray
07-09-2019, 04:08 PM
Adam Silver needs to step in an do his job. Shoot down the knicks trying to sign this guy.

This. And change the way its done. It's not agreements its sign a contract and be done. Not being able to re work this or re work that. The whole CBA is a disaster imo

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:08 PM
I thnk he worried he won't get touches

Nah, Knicks have about 8 PFs. This is about a 50% pay increase.

mexicanjunior
07-09-2019, 04:08 PM
Spurs are a lottery team at this point tbh...

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:08 PM
Now spurs need immediately to trade Murray for Russ

Degoat
07-09-2019, 04:09 PM
Man even Stanley Johnson and RHJ have already been signed too lol

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:09 PM
If yall's boy Instagram Baller was really as loyal to the Spurs as he claims he is, he'd find different representation. Not that Klutch needs him or anything but just to make a point about how unprofessional this was.

This sucks, boys. :depressed

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Kawhi has shown the world how stupid spurs FO is, we're finished

FO is not to blame here. It's the rules and the player. Your word it's suppposed to mean something. Now it doesn't mean anything anymore.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Lost him over 5 mil

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Spurs are a lottery team at this point tbh...

Don't be fucking stupid. This team is miles better than last year's already.

Dverde
07-09-2019, 04:11 PM
Adam Silver needs to step in an do his job. Shoot down the knicks trying to sign this guy.

Madam Silver ain’t doing nothing. Deandre was different it was the players begging him not to leave. How can the Knicks offer contracts for someone already committed? Shady stuff

mo7888
07-09-2019, 04:11 PM
By offering wat

For Covington- belinelli + forbes + a 1st

For Oubre (more complicated)- convince Phoenix to allow the S&T by offering them a 1st and convince oubre's camp to take the MLE because theres no money on the market left for him. His choice would be take the QO or the security of the MLE.

Theres even a scenario where you could do both.

UZER
07-09-2019, 04:11 PM
LeBron and his peeps continue to ruin this league. Doesn't surprise me.

I’ve said many times before on here, if you are still a player, you should not be allowed to own/run a sports agency that’s represents players in the league you are still participating in as a player. It’s creates way too many conflicts of interest. Other sports, fine, but not the one you are still playing in.

Lebrons dealings has turned this league into a joke over the years.

DAF86
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
The whole NBA offseason is based off of players not reneging on their agreements. Not sure how Spurs can be blamed, tbh.

What sucks is the Spurs jumped through hoops to get Morris that contract. Trading away Bertans, giving Carroll more money ... only to get screwed at the end.

But, I mean, what can you do, tbh?

I need somebody to tell me if the Bertans/Carroll trade can be re-negotiated. The Spurs got royally fucked here. League should interfer, imho.

Let Morris go sign anywhere but at least re-do the Bertans/Carroll trade.

Mugen
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
Welp, there's a clearer path for Lonnie seeing regular minutes now behind Derozan at the 3. Still sucks though.

Maybe it pushes them to trade Beli and Forbes for a Marvin Williams type.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
I mean honestly anyone who chooses the Knicks organization over the Spurs probably isn't someone you want on your team. It's trading Bertans for basically nothing that really sucks. We'll still have the MLE, but the MLE probably not as good as having the trade chip would have been.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
Time to split the mle up between melo,lyles and whomever

Dverde
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
At least we opened a spot for Thomas Robinson. I’d rather have more size on the roster instead of what is out there.

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
The only thing that the Spurs could've done different was hold off on the trade of Bertans and hold off on signing Carroll on that three year deal until Morris actually signed his contract.

Reneging on deals in the NBA is pretty rare. Over 99% of the time, if a player/agent agree to a contract, they'll end up signing it. Bad luck, tbh.

Reggie Bullock failed his physical at the last second, which has opened up just enough room to entice Morris.

Cardinal
07-09-2019, 04:12 PM
The only thing that the Spurs could've done different was hold off on the trade of Bertans and hold off on signing Carroll on that three year deal until Morris actually signed his contract.

Didn't the Spurs need to make those other moves first or am I mistaken?

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:13 PM
Lol that RC Drunkford poster. :cry he’s not a problem

NASpurs
07-09-2019, 04:13 PM
Welp, there's a clearer path for Lonnie seeing regular minutes now behind Derozan at the 3. Still sucks though.

Maybe it pushes them to trade Beli and Forbes for a Marvin Williams type.

Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe it pushes them to trade those two since they know they have an actual need now.

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:13 PM
I need somebody to tell me if the Bertans/Carroll trade can be re-negotiated. The Spurs got royally fucked here. League should interfer, imho.

Let Morris go sign anywhere but at least re-do the Bertans/Carroll trade.

Carroll trade is done. Bertans is gone.

RC_Drunkford
07-09-2019, 04:13 PM
This is retarded. We would lose a starter and the Knicks already signed 3 PFs. It makes no sense for them to go after Morris

tonight...you
07-09-2019, 04:13 PM
Spurs are a lottery team at this point tbh...
I understand your pessimism. You have Jason Garrett in your avi on a Spurs forum.
Or some cat that looks like him in a clown Cowboys hat...
Either way.

What hope is there, when you're a Cowboys fan?

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:14 PM
Reneging on deals in the NBA is pretty rare. Over 99% of the time, if a player/agent agree to a contract, they'll end up signing it. Bad luck, tbh.

Reggie Bullock failed his physical at the last second, which has opened up just enough room to entice Morris.


Yea this is a major cucking

ace3g
07-09-2019, 04:14 PM
Spurs should file for the "Bertans" exception - when a player is traded for salary cap prior to signing a player that agreed to a contact and then said player decides to go to another team....

SPURt
07-09-2019, 04:14 PM
Welp, Thomas Robinson is feeling good today

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:14 PM
Atleast we got an xtra year for demarre lmao

Dverde
07-09-2019, 04:14 PM
:lol trending google searches in San Antonio is “best remaining nba free agents”

TD 21
07-09-2019, 04:15 PM
They should have known better than to jump the gun with Bertans and Carroll. This shit isn't without precedent. The Kings just did it last year with Bjelica and Ferrell. The Thunder gave Burks (took them up on it) and Muscala the option after George altered their course.

Once again, Spurs do something stupid, can't catch a break and get screwed.

This league is a disgrace. Once an agreement in principle is reached, teams shouldn't be allowed to continue to negotiate with players.

SAGirl
07-09-2019, 04:15 PM
Did PATFO move on, now that Bellineli is being shopped again?
Hmmm I do wonder how this is related to the Belli trade rumors. Sucks for the Spurs they definitely were ready to move on with Davis Bertans but traded him to make space sign Morris. They are now looking for a forward who can shoot. Hm?

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:15 PM
This is retarded. We would lose a starter and the Knicks already signed 3 PFs. It makes no sense for them to go after Morris

So much for that Morris hype from you. Fuck that headcase

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:15 PM
I need somebody to tell me if the Bertans/Carroll trade can be re-negotiated. The Spurs got royally fucked here. League should interfer, imho.

Let Morris go sign anywhere but at least re-do the Bertans/Carroll trade.
nothing spurs can do as far as those deals. they're done.

they hypothetically could have legal recourse against morris for damages, but i dont foresee that happening tbh :lol

John B
07-09-2019, 04:15 PM
Is he worth 15mil? Should Spurs up the ante? He’ll be off the books next year when Luka/Keldon with a year on their belt

Spurs da champs
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
This is retarded. We would lose a starter and the Knicks already signed 3 PFs. It makes no sense for them to go after Morris
3 PFs and loaded at SF with Barrett/Knox.

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Time to split the mle up between melo,lyles and whomever

Maybe sign Iggy, he's getting waive soon

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Is he worth 15mil? Should Spurs up the ante? He’ll be off the books next year when Luka/Keldon with a year on their belt
we cant just pay him more. we cleared up the MLE and offered it to him in full. that's all we can give him, as we are above the cap

Collins21
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
At least we opened a spot for Thomas Robinson. I’d rather have more size on the roster instead of what is out there.

Have you seen Robinson in Summer League? I'd rather have trey Lyles easily over him.

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Sources: The Milwaukee Bucks have waived forward Jon Leuer.

Here is our Morris replacement guys. :rollin

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Instagram Baller needs to switch representation or he can GTFO. Klutch players need to be blacklisted for this.

Dex
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Well, that's an asshole move if I ever saw one.

Fuck Klutch, Fuck Morris, and Fuck the Lakers (just by default).

Have fun wasting a year of your career with the Knicks.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Reneging on deals in the NBA is pretty rare. Over 99% of the time, if a player/agent agree to a contract, they'll end up signing it. Bad luck, tbh.

Reggie Bullock failed his physical at the last second, which has opened up just enough room to entice Morris.

As you said, free agency relies on word - otherwise offer sheets need to be signed and they aren't. But this should send a signal to all teams to change their practices. It's probably a momentous time in NBA history and it could pave the way for a different business dealing in the future. Some people are stuck in blaming the PATFO but they are missing what is actually happening here

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:17 PM
3 PFs and loaded at SF with Barrett/Knox.

Barrett is a 2 and Knox not ready, he's gonna get a lot of minutes at the 3...

SAGirl
07-09-2019, 04:17 PM
Gave away Bertans for nothing :shootme
And a 3 yr deal to Carroll that was initially a 2 yr deal. I didn't even like him for 3 but understood it has to be done. It sucks.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-09-2019, 04:18 PM
At least we opened a spot for Thomas Robinson. I’d rather have more size on the roster instead of what is out there.

Good lord man watch some summer league, Thomas Robinson sucks.

ace3g
07-09-2019, 04:18 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1148702315383103488


Word began circulating at Summer League of Morris’ hesitancy when he didn’t show up to take his physical a few days ago.

of course also this


But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:18 PM
Is he worth 15mil? Should Spurs up the ante? He’ll be off the books next year when Luka/Keldon with a year on their belt

Up the ante, how? We can't offer him $15M this year. That's all he's concerned with, since we offered 2/$20M. He obviously doesn't care about multiple years.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:18 PM
Atleast we still have fatty mills tbh

Genovaswitness
07-09-2019, 04:18 PM
question—what has made the spurs prime candidates for
this kind of cucking

Dverde
07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
Welp there goes Marcus Morris bogglehead night

Cardinal
07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
So what, is he for sure leaving? The tweets imply he is considering the Knicks' offer. If it was a done deal, they would have said so. My read of the situation is the Knicks have this extra money now because of the Bullock situation, suddenly offered a new contract to Morris, and that's given him pause--but we don't necessarily know which way he is leaning.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
DAF86 on suicide watch after bertans trade was literally for nothing

LakerHater
07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
FO reachin out to other Fwrds, guess they know they lost him!!

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:19 PM
My sources tell me Morris is expected to join his US basketball teammates this summer to train for the game under coach Popovich.

anon
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
I guess in Vegas Rich Paul asked RC for a max extension for Murray. RC said fuck no so Rich Paul brought this shit.
Some big boy moves. Dejounte's entourage about to colonize the FO in the next couple of years.

kobyz
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
This is a big blow for Spurs playoff hopes, should they just say fuck and go for rebuild trading DDR and LMA and giving the young guys the minutes?

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
A player's word now means nothing. Contracts mean nothing either based on the actions of the Neph. Many of these players have no training in how to conduct their business professionally.

The NBA better get their program in order.

We know Silver won’t do shit.

Legacy
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
Fuck that clown, tbh.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
My sources tell me Morris is expected to join his US basketball teammates this summer to train for the game under coach Popovich.

Cut on day 1.

pad300
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
nothing spurs can do as far as those deals. they're done.

they hypothetically could have legal recourse against morris for damages, but i dont foresee that happening tbh :lol

Could they sue Klutch? Might be more to the point... Ask the NBA as a league to join the suit as a supporting party due to the damage it does to the league Free Agency process.

Spurs da champs
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1148702315383103488

What a pussy, why commit if your not sold?

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
So what, is he for sure leaving? The tweets imply he is considering the Knicks' offer. If it was a done deal, they would have said so. My read of the situation is the Knicks have this extra money now, offered a new contract to Morris, and that's given him pause.


Hes gone bro spurs already looking at fa scrubs left with their mle

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
Chris Haynes with some interesting tidbits: https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-morris-considering-reneging-on-deal-with-spurs-in-favor-of-knicks-211335219.html


But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said.


The Spurs have started reaching out to other free-agents wings in case Morris decides to join the Knicks, sources said.

prayingdog.jpg @ Morris signing with the Spurs anyways.

Trey Lyles as the backup plan is the only name that makes sense, really. Even though that's quite a fall...

Dex
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
Popovich is beside himself. Driving around downtown Boston begging ( thru telegraph) Morris' family for address to Marcus' home.

John B
07-09-2019, 04:20 PM
we cant just pay him more. we cleared up the MLE and offered it to him in full. that's all we can give him, as we are above the cap
Unless we get somebody take Belli plus. Or is he worth it? I mean business is business, he got offered 5mil more

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:21 PM
This is the right time to double down on Mills with that MLE extra cash

siraulo23
07-09-2019, 04:21 PM
:lmao

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:21 PM
Popovich is beside himself. Driving around downtown Boston begging ( thru telegraph) Morris' family for address to Marcus' home.
:lmao

dubross
07-09-2019, 04:21 PM
"But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said."

From the Chris Haynes Article.

So you are saying there is a chance? :spin

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Chris Haynes with some interesting tidbits: https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-morris-considering-reneging-on-deal-with-spurs-in-favor-of-knicks-211335219.html





prayingdog.jpg @ Morris signing with the Spurs anyways.

Trey Lyles as the backup plan is the only name that makes sense, really. Even though that's quite a fall...

off a fucking cliff

szkorhetz
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Finally Spurs man up and do some real difference maker moves and this happens..

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
That Haynes article does say:

"But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said."

but there's a bad feeling in the air now that this is public.

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
This dumb nigga complained in Boston that the guys didn’t care about winning enough and he’s considering going to the fucking Knicks?! Meh if he signs with them, whatever. We don’t need stupid people on the team.

Dex
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
I think I already know the answer, but is there any way salary / cap-wise Spurs can get closer to the Knicks offer? Or is their ceiling the MLE?

Someone get that guy some Whataburger gift cards!

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Instagram Baller needs to switch representation or he can GTFO. Klutch players need to be blacklisted for this.

Who has IB on instagram? Someone tell him to back up his words about his loyalty to the Spurs.

TDomination
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
Is he worth 15mil? Should Spurs up the ante? He’ll be off the books next year when Luka/Keldon with a year on their belt

do the spurs have the money to increase the pay?

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
You up the ante by offering more years bruh, you can offer a 3rd partially guaranteed year brah,

Hey dumbass, we're already offering more guaranteed money at $20M. Since next year is a free agent desert, he'll want out THEN with his opt out, not 2021 when there are better options available.

pad300
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
Cut on day 1.

Quit on day 1, after being assigned 100 hrs of punishment wind-sprints for being of low character...

tonight...you
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
This is the right time to double down on Mills with that MLE extra cash
Hot damn.

Long Live Patty!

TimmyBuckets
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
We could've kept Bertans and Carrol and still be better than last year. Morris fucked us. Majority of fans don't even have a team they are loyal to anymore. Players and player fans rule everything. Sure there is more parity now, but this league is utter trash. The sense of entitlement is through the roof and there is clear player vs team mentality out there. Fuck Morris and his entire inbred family.

Joseph Kony
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
WTF? is this a joke? if true F this dude because this will make our off-season go from really solid to complete trash if we traded Bertans for nothing to give Carroll a 3 year deal. this clown is going to get boo'd more than leonard if so. wtf man, reneging doesnt happen often at all, so this is some BS

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:23 PM
Do the right thing marcus :nopespurs will take care of you down the road just look at fatty mills hes rich af

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Could they sue Klutch? Might be more to the point... Ask the NBA as a league to join the suit as a supporting party due to the damage it does to the league Free Agency process.
no, klutch is just doing what their client instructs. the agreement or "promise" was between the spurs and morris. the legal theory would be "promissory estoppel" because the spurs acted to their detriment (trading bertans, adding a 3rd year to carroll's deal) based on reasonable reliance on assurances given by morris. even if those assurances/promises werent in the form of a binding contract, courts could enforce based on the spurs damages.

but yeah, this is all just a mental exercise. dallas went through the same thing with deandre. not the first time this has happened. though i dont know that dallas made any specific roster moves purely because of deandre's commitment, the way spurs did with bertans/carroll

Cardinal
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
So what, is he for sure leaving? The tweets imply he is considering the Knicks' offer. If it was a done deal, they would have said so. My read of the situation is the Knicks have this extra money now because of the Bullock situation, suddenly offered a new contract to Morris, and that's given him pause--but we don't necessarily know which way he is leaning.

More to my point, the Hayne's article leaves some hope that he won't actually back out of the agreement with the Spurs... we've been a bit alarmist here. Thought my sense is he probably is gone.

"But there is optimism Morris and the Spurs will finalize their contract, sources said." - https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-morris-considering-reneging-on-deal-with-spurs-in-favor-of-knicks-211335219.html

EricB
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Dejounte about to find himself on the trade block. The NBA needs to sanction Kluth and Paul for this. You can’t allow this shit in your league to happen.

Aggie Hoopsfan
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Chris Haynes with some interesting tidbits: https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-morris-considering-reneging-on-deal-with-spurs-in-favor-of-knicks-211335219.html





prayingdog.jpg @ Morris signing with the Spurs anyways.

Trey Lyles as the backup plan is the only name that makes sense, really. Even though that's quite a fall...

Maybe we could offer it to Iggy, but I have a feeling he's just going to go to the Clips no matter what.

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Knicks have already signed Julius Randle, Taj Gibson and Bobby Portis. Morris doesn't exactly fit ... but that'd be a lot of money to walk away from.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Huge cockblocking maneuver by the Knicks

Manu20
07-09-2019, 04:26 PM
Can Morris financial advisor let him know that Texas has no state tax.....The state tax in NY and cost of living will eat up that extra 5 mill! Okay maybe not but just thinking out loud lol

Gibbz
07-09-2019, 04:26 PM
What a fucking woman.

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 04:26 PM
Knicks have already signed Julius Randle, Taj Gibson and Bobby Portis. Morris doesn't exactly fit ... but that'd be a lot of money to walk away from.

They probably want him as a trade chip come the deadline.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:28 PM
Don't be upset that you missed that he is looking for even more guaranteed money and he can be offered a 3rd year that is partially guaranteed to do it.

This is a negotiating ploy by Rich and Klutch for MORE MONEY and threatening to sign with another team is a way to facilitate MORE MONEY than he was offerred.

To deny this is about MONEY just makes you look foolish.

It's about money THIS YEAR, you fuck wit. He wants out next summer, unless he suffers some catastrophic injury. That's the barren FA year. He might get a $20M/yr deal next summer.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:28 PM
The trading risk for some in the Spur's roster has gone up considerably now - me thinks the Spurs could be forced to trade one of the sacred cows now that this has blown up

dubross
07-09-2019, 04:28 PM
1148704063439032320

Degoat
07-09-2019, 04:28 PM
Have the knicks signed Taj Gibson yet lol steal him from them

itzsoweezee
07-09-2019, 04:29 PM
I thought Bertans had been waived by the wizards (and maybe they could get him back), but now I realize it was his brother who was waived by New Orleans :bang

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:29 PM
No woder the belli trade made no sense. Spurs are kicking the tires looking for a morris replacement with all they have left to offer

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:29 PM
They probably want him as a trade chip come the deadline.

A player on a one year contract essentially has a no trade clause. They can't send him anywhere he doesn't want to go.

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:29 PM
1148699722569437184

Lamond Murray was bad. But, yeah, this would be worse.

Man...

TimDunkem
07-09-2019, 04:29 PM
I thought he had a player option though? He could still become a free agent and have some of that money made up with the lack of state income taxes eating into it. Hebcould also earn more by playing a big role on a WC team.

Duuuumb.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:30 PM
1148699722569437184

Lamond Murray was bad. But, yeah, this would be worse.

Man...


He knows what the spurs gave up to aquire him....a complete raw backdoor fcking

tbdog
07-09-2019, 04:30 PM
This sucks. And what a dumb move. They have Gibson and Randle and Barrett and knox. Hello Morris, your starting for the Spurs.

Dverde
07-09-2019, 04:30 PM
Can we sign Morris and trade him for Taj Gibson

toki9
07-09-2019, 04:31 PM
1. What are the Knicks doing? This can't help their FO reputation around the league, right?
2. Murray's upcoming contract should be really interesting.
3. Ugh, Klutch...

DAF86
07-09-2019, 04:31 PM
Knicks have already signed Julius Randle, Taj Gibson and Bobby Portis. Morris doesn't exactly fit ... but that'd be a lot of money to walk away from.

Maybe the Spurs can tell Morris, off the record, that they will offer him a really good contract the following offseason.

EricB
07-09-2019, 04:31 PM
He’s gone. Will be bought out mid season and then sign with LA. All instructed by LeBron and Klutch.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:31 PM
Can we sign Morris and trade him for Taj Gibson
no

SpursDynasty85
07-09-2019, 04:32 PM
Dang... Guess we know what the rumblings are about.....

IDK, I hope Morris keeps his word and doesnt go to one of the worst franchises just for a little more money. He will definitely want to be playing and scoring a lot which is why I think his advisors are telling him Knicks is the smarter choice.

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:32 PM
Time to step up, DJ "natural leader" Murray. Convince your Klutch bro to stop being a bitch.

itzsoweezee
07-09-2019, 04:32 PM
I thought he had a player option though? He could still become a free agent and have some of that money made up with the lack of state income taxes eating into it. Hebcould also earn more by playing a big role on a WC team.

Duuuumb.

I read that he could qualify for a bigger payout next year if his salary was $15 million this year. I'm not exactly sure why, by the Ms definitely favor signing the bigger deal with New York

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:33 PM
Maybe the Spurs can tell Morris, off the record, that they will offer him a really good contract the following offseason.
https://i.gyazo.com/3d055de05df04f5eaaa8cb4945867261.png

MannyIsGod
07-09-2019, 04:33 PM
He’s gone. Will be bought out mid season and then sign with LA. All instructed by LeBron and Klutch.

Holy shit if that happens the NBA has to do something.

tonight...you
07-09-2019, 04:34 PM
Time to step up, DJ "natural leader" Murray. Convince your Klutch bro to stop being a bitch.
Nah... call him a bitch and show him what's up.
Go languish in NYC with that extra several million... dollars...

Damn.
I don't blame him.

RC_Drunkford
07-09-2019, 04:34 PM
Maybe the Spurs can tell Morris, off the record, that they will offer him a really good contract the following offseason.

They should promise to resign him for 20 if he opts out and then not resign him at all

timvp
07-09-2019, 04:35 PM
Time to step up, DJ "natural leader" Murray.

Is this going to be your shtick for the next decade, tbh?

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:36 PM
Lol @ thinking the NBA and Silver are doing anything. All those times Draymond avoided suspensions in the playoffs should have been telling. And to think people hated David Stern during his time. Silver killed the NBA allowing all this shit but hey it pleases the dumb casual fans and makes the big bucks.

toki9
07-09-2019, 04:36 PM
Isn't this the kind of thing that the Commission should step in? I doubt much can be done about Morris/Klutch, but the Knicks behavior is pretty horrible, too, isn't it?

Seventyniner
07-09-2019, 04:36 PM
Gonna be damn awkward if he ends up signing with the Spurs after all. You can't leave something like this unaddressed, but what is he going to do to try and save face?

LkrFan
07-09-2019, 04:37 PM
Yeah now losing Bertans for nothing really sucks. Who's Morris' agent?

LeKlutch :lol

John B
07-09-2019, 04:37 PM
I guess Ewwwbanks is in?? :rolleyes:rolleyes

TimDunkem
07-09-2019, 04:38 PM
I guess Ewwwbanks is in?? :rolleyes:rolleyes

Gross.

FkLA
07-09-2019, 04:38 PM
Is this going to be your shtick for the next decade, tbh?

He's not going to be here for a decade if he remains a Klutch athlete after this bullshit.

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:38 PM
15>10
20>15
3 years 33 partially guaranteed
25/27>20>15>10

He can go back into the FA market in 2021 2022 makes no difference

Savey?

I didn't think you had to be given a refresher on 3rd-grade math, but apparently, you do.

What year he goes on the FA market makes a HUGE difference, dumb ass. Next year, there's almost no one available. Good pickings for middle of the road guys like Morris.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:38 PM
Gonna be damn awkward if he ends up signing with the Spurs after all. You can't leave something like this unaddressed, but what is he going to do to try and save face?
eh, he can just throw the media under the bus

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
Gonna be damn awkward if he ends up signing with the Spurs after all. You can't leave something like this unaddressed, but what is he going to do to try and save face?


Its not looking likely he didnt even show up for his physical and is being offered more money

MoSpur02
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
Can Morris financial advisor let him know that Texas has no state tax.....The state tax in NY and cost of living will eat up that extra 5 mill! Okay maybe not but just thinking out loud lol

You think this idiot has a financial advisor?

ThaBigFundamental21
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
Adam Silver needs to step in and do his job. This is getting out of control. There is zero professionalism in the NBA.

RD2191
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
:lmao :lmao Spurms fans. This is what you salty faggots get. Karma this and karma that for Kawhi, looks like the Karma is coming the Spurs way. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO :lmao :lmao

Spurs da champs
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
1148700498171744256

:lmao

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
Isn't this the kind of thing that the Commission should step in? I doubt much can be done about Morris/Klutch, but the Knicks behavior is pretty horrible, too, isn't it?

If Morris doesn't sign I think the Spurs have a shot legally to at least fight for the exception in dealing Bertans. There is plausible damage there. But I don't think the Spurs will pursue something like that.

anon
07-09-2019, 04:40 PM
Rich Paul just tattooed a "Bitch. Use at your pleasure" sign on Buford's forehead if Spurs fail to consummate this deal. Blow it all up.

slick'81
07-09-2019, 04:40 PM
1148700498171744256

:lmao


Savage af

bluebellmaniac
07-09-2019, 04:40 PM
Rich Paul ... Klutch Sports

They also represent Dejounte.

Fuck em all. Blackball them and let it be known that they will never get another deal with this team. With whatever pull Pop has with his coaching tree, have them blackball them too.

There are rules. It's what separates us from the animals.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
You think this idiot has a financial advisor?
this is the problem with somebody like rich paul having this much power. usually agents are attorneys who are professional and well versed. rich paul is an amateur who fell into the role as lebron's agent and picked up form there

SpurOutofTownFan
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
:lmao :lmao Spurms fans. This is what you salty faggots get. Karma this and karma that for Kawhi, looks like the Karma is coming the Spurs way. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO :lmao :lmao

Known for a while you aren't a Spurs fan. Only an idiot could be celebrating over this. If you look at yourself a little bit and read your own comments you will see how ridiculous you sound

timtonymanu
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
:lmao :lmao Spurms fans. This is what you salty faggots get. Karma this and karma that for Kawhi, looks like the Karma is coming the Spurs way. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO :lmao :lmao

:lol replies to this should be good.

Degoat
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
I think things get settled, relax guys.... but if he goes to the Knicks, then deuces

exstatic
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
Rich Paul just tattooed a "Bitch. Use at your pleasure" sign on Buford's forehead if Spurs fail to consummate this deal. Blow it all up.

Oh, shut the fuck up.

Mr. Body
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
no, klutch is just doing what their client instructs. the agreement or "promise" was between the spurs and morris. the legal theory would be "promissory estoppel" because the spurs acted to their detriment (trading bertans, adding a 3rd year to carroll's deal) based on reasonable reliance on assurances given by morris. even if those assurances/promises werent in the form of a binding contract, courts could enforce based on the spurs damages.

but yeah, this is all just a mental exercise. dallas went through the same thing with deandre. not the first time this has happened. though i dont know that dallas made any specific roster moves purely because of deandre's commitment, the way spurs did with bertans/carroll

I believe Carlos Boozer's agency dropped him after he broke his word, and what he did wasn't close to this bad. This is a serious breach of what an agency should do.

Desert Spur
07-09-2019, 04:41 PM
This is actually ridiculous that a player can do this. Spurs made a specific move to get him and now after agreeing he can just leave. This CBA is a joke

Appears contracts and agreements are worthless these days.

spurraider21
07-09-2019, 04:42 PM
i mean, it was one thing when we salary dumped splitter to open up a max slot for aldridge. we didnt do that because aldridge gave us any assurances. they took a calculated risk/gamble and paid off. but we only traded bertans and adjusted carroll's deal after reaching an agreement with morris. total bush-league stuff

TD 21
07-09-2019, 04:42 PM
Damned if they do, damnde if they don't. I'm sure they'd love to tell him and his agent to go fuck themselves, but they're screwed at this point if he reneges. If not, they'd they have to kowtow to a role player. Disgusting.

I'd be tempted to go with the former anyway.

LkrFan
07-09-2019, 04:42 PM
I was surprised the Spurs were open to him. Look at the tax rates dummy. Lebron is probably behind this.

LeBron is just an NBA player. WTH? :lol