Remaining free agent forwards of note

[phxspurfan]

From this list (2019 Free Agent Tracker - nba.com (https://www.nba.com/freeagents/2019/tracker))

All basically replacement level guys.

Dragan Bender 7'1" F (https://www.nba.com/players/dragan/bender/1627733)

Ryan Anderson 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-waives-ryan-anderson-190706)

Jaron Blossomgame 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/jaron/blossomgame/1628417)

Corey Brewer 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/corey/brewer/201147)

Marquese Chriss 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/marquese/chriss/1627737)

Sam Dekker 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/sam/dekker/1626155)

The Corpse of Luol Deng (https://www.nba.com/players/luol/deng/2736)

Kenneth Faried 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/kenneth/faried/202702)

Justin Holiday 6'6" G/F (https://www.nba.com/players/justin/holiday/203200)

Jonas Jerebko 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/jonas/jerebko/201973)

Amir Johnson 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/amir/johnson/101161)

Trey Lyles 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/trey/lyles/1626168)

Ben Moore 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/ben/moore/1628500)

Thabo Sefolosha 6'7" F (https://www.nba.com/players/thabo/sefolosha/200757)

[Joseph Kony]

:vomit:

[Ron Swanson]

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[Dejounte]

Kenneth Faried fared well last year
Ben Moore since he knows the system already
Trey Lyles

[spurraider21]

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:lmao

[SpursDynasty85]

From this list (2019 Free Agent Tracker - nba.com (https://www.nba.com/freeagents/2019/tracker))

All basically replacement level guys.

Dragan Bender 7'1" F (https://www.nba.com/players/dragan/bender/1627733)

Ryan Anderson 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-waives-ryan-anderson-190706)

Jaron Blossomgame 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/jaron/blossomgame/1628417)

Corey Brewer 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/corey/brewer/201147)

Marquese Chriss 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/marquese/chriss/1627737)

Sam Dekker 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/sam/dekker/1626155)

The Corpse of Luol Deng (https://www.nba.com/players/luol/deng/2736)

Kenneth Faried 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/kenneth/faried/202702)

Justin Holiday 6'6" G/F (https://www.nba.com/players/justin/holiday/203200)

Jonas Jerebko 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/jonas/jerebko/201973)

Amir Johnson 6'9" F (https://www.nba.com/players/amir/johnson/101161)

Trey Lyles 6'10" F (https://www.nba.com/players/trey/lyles/1626168)

Ben Moore 6'8" F (https://www.nba.com/players/ben/moore/1628500)

Thabo Sefolosha 6'7" F (https://www.nba.com/players/thabo/sefolosha/200757)

Can see why Spurs are looking for a trade. No 3 pt shooters except Anderson (PF). We have Carroll and Gay (PF) already. Need a more true SF with shooting ability and can defend. *Snif Danny Green. Lakers screwing in little ways...

[r0drig0lac]

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[Mr. Body]

I mean, really, they jettisoned Bertans who really wasn't good for this system. They added Carroll for depth. Otherwise the front line is the same as last year. Just go with it. See if you can trade Beli and Forbes for someone already under contract.

I might suggest Lyles, but boy is he unimpressive.

[phxspurfan]

Kenneth Faried fared well last year
Ben Moore since he knows the system already
Trey Lyles

I think we'll stick with Ben Moore, or just have 2 of the 3 of Weatherspoon, Luka, Keldon on the roster. But starting lineup changes a bit. If we don't make any changes (unlikely)...


LMA
Poeltl/Gay/Carroll
DeRozan
White/Forbes
Murray

Eubanks
Walker
Mills
Luka/Keldon/Weatherspoon
Belinelli/Metu (only one of which may be kept, or neither)
Ben Moore (if one/neither of the above are kept, and one of the 3 rooks is in Austin)

[ZeusWillJudge]

You left out Furkan Korkmaz.


I know he's a guard, but he deserves a place on that list anyway. :lol

[slick'81]

That is one big pile of shit

[phxspurfan]

You left out Furkan Korkmaz.


I know he's a guard, but he deserves a place on that list anyway. :lol

:lol who? Louis Farrakhan?

[RC_Drunkford]

All end of the bench guys. Morris would've been a starter

[GreekSpursfan]

The odor coming out of this thread, yikes.

[slick'81]

All end of the bench guys. Morris would've been a starter


Yes and a quality starter at aposition of need. now its back to poodle and lma

[dbestpro]

Faried provides Carroll type hard play while Ryan Anderson is still one of rhe best big three point shooters. Both are 30 years old only one year older than Morris.

[slick'81]

Faried provides Carroll type hard play while Ryan Anderson is still one of rhe best big three point shooters. Both are 30 years old only one year older than Marcus.


Carroll is more of a back up at 20+ minutes anything more and ur asking for trouble

[ZeusWillJudge]

:lol who? Louis Farrakhan?


You know... Furky. Played for the Sixers last year? He's 6'7", and a FA. I think he'd do as well as at least half of that list at SF. :D

[slick'81]

This is depressing make it stop

[GreekSpursfan]

You left out Furkan Korkmaz.


I know he's a guard, but he deserves a place on that list anyway. :lol

He signed with the Sixers a few days ago didn't he?

[phxspurfan]

Faried provides Carroll type hard play while Ryan Anderson is still one of rhe best big three point shooters. Both are 30 years old only one year older than Morris.

FO may be trying to unload Belinelli and Metu to get 2 guys like Faried and Anderson. One for defense the other for offense

[slick'81]

He signed with the Sixers a few days ago didn't he?


He signed with a turkish team

[ThaBigFundamental21]

FO may be trying to unload Belinelli and Metu to get 2 guys like Faried and Anderson. One for defense the other for offense

That would be disgusting. I would rather let Metu take his lumps.

[slick'81]

That would be disgusting. I would rather let Metu take his lumps.


Seriously its comedic now

[phxspurfan]

That would be disgusting. I would rather let Metu take his lumps.

Metu is not an NBA player. Faried would be a huge upgrade over him.

[Mr. Body]

Shaun Livingston now available.

[ZeusWillJudge]

He signed with the Sixers a few days ago didn't he?


Oh, I don't know. It was just a commentary on that list. I thought the emojis were enough, but I guess I should have used blue font.

I guess it's kind of sad that he really would be as good at SF as about half of the list.

[GreekSpursfan]

Oh, I don't know. It was just a commentary on that list. I thought the emojis were enough, but I guess I should have used blue font.

I guess it's kind of sad that he really would be as good at SF as about half of the list.

There is a reason Sixers signed him straight away.

[DC23]

Michael Redd? Cuttino Mobley?

[Gordy58]

Might as well just throw Samanic into the fire lol only thing we can do is offer Oubre the 9 mil or trade for Iggy....
somehow getting RoCo would be ideal.

[Gordy58]

Shaun Livingston now available.
Oh god no

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski
✔
@wojespn
Sources: Warriors are waiving guard Shaun Livingston, who is guaranteed $2M of his $7.7M salary for season. Livingston, 33, is determined to continue playing and becomes one more valuable free agent candidate for contenders. He’s won three NBA titles and reached five Finals.

[slick'81]

Adrian Wojnarowski
✔
@wojespn
Sources: Warriors are waiving guard Shaun Livingston, who is guaranteed $2M of his $7.7M salary for season. Livingston, 33, is determined to continue playing and becomes one more valuable free agent candidate for contenders. He’s won three NBA titles and reached five Finals.

fck no

[ducks]

Shaun is greater then mills

[Spurs9]

Ill take manimal tbh

[buujness]

None of these guys are worth bringing in.

Only way to find an upgrade would be a trade. Gallinari or RoCo might be able to be had.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Michael Redd? Cuttino Mobley?


Amar'e and Monta Ellis are throwing a big workout party in Vegas tonight, trying to get someone to revive their careers.

[TXstbobcat]

Michael Redd? Cuttino Mobley?

i think Jaren Jackson Sr. Is available

[BackHome]

Rather look over seas for someone

[ZeusWillJudge]

He signed with a turkish team


Yep. It's seriously off the point - which was that the list of available forwards really, really sucks. But, yeah, he didn't get an offer from Philly, and he's back in Turkey.

[FkLA]

Trade for Roberson. Bring him home. Just make sure to keep Tony away from his GF.

[LCM]

If Morris deal falls through, would Christian Wood be a possibility for training camp invite?

[venitian navigator]

I would go the young route...I love reclamation projects and I frankly think we are one of the best organizations to change a playe's destiny for the good. Its just necesary the guys have good carachter and will to improve and become something.
That said, of the names out there, two could be worth some attention...
I mean Chriss and Bender.
Both top ten draft picks just three years ago.
Both picked by a team known for being awful at developing players.
Both with obvious phisycal skills and basketball skills.
Both at the very bottom of their careers.
Both in roles of our actual need...
I would propose them a developmental contract actually exceeding by a large amount their actual market value but with a full committment from their part about a full immersion shedule about development.
we have the full MLE? well, for both of them a 4 years contract for half the MLE with only first season of guaranteed contract (aka first year guarantee, years 2, 3 and four as team options).
For them is probably impossible to get something better.
For us, imho, its mid risk high reward...
Obviously PATFO knows the pro and cons of these two players better than me...but its a fact that just three years ago they were considered unamimously two legitimate top ten prospects (Bender top five)...so its kind of uncomprehensible, at least to me, how in this limited time they lost all of their supposed talent...and they are still, respectively, 21 and 22 years old...so I refuse to think they can not improve at such young age...

[rudwick]

Jerebko seems like a fit.

[raybies]

I know he doesn’t help much this year but id love to have Dragan Bender. I have a hard time believing every Suns picks are busts... they got to have the worst development department of any team in the league.

The angle I have is that he’s Croatian like Samanic. You can have them duke it out for spot minutes. He’s a power forward/center so he can technically fill the third big spot on the roster and is versatile enough to play the four. I’m think he’s got a lot of tools and it’s not too late for him. He’s a hard worker and with a little TLC he could be a solid rotation piece in the near future. He just needs direction. He had no foundation in PHX. He’s also only 22. He still has a couple pup years to grow.

Personally I’d take Korver and Bender, and waive metu.

[outmap]

If Morris deal falls through, would Christian Wood be a possibility for training camp invite?

The kid is underrated, and he can be signed for the minimum.

[Hyperhypo]

never mind...

[donaldsonian]

Can Hanga be bought out?

[Hyperhypo]

Shaun Livingston now available.
We got too many of those guys

[SouthTexasRancher]

The problem now is playing teams like both LA teams. We don't have the kind of guys who can play havoc with KaWhitter and Paul George or Lea' Brown'e' and Anthony Davis.

[JeffDuncan]

...
That said, of the names out there, two could be worth some attention...
I mean Chriss and Bender. ...

Marquese Chriss is interesting in that he was a teammate of Dejounte Murray at the U. of Wash. Otherwise, I know little about him. He has the size to be a PF.

[paperboy77]

If we are at the worst case scenario why not get Corey Brewer? Never followed him for an full season but when I do the guy makes great defensive plays and big threes. From that list I say Brewer. Ben Moore hasn’t shown me shit.

[Mr. Body]

If we are at the worst case scenario why not get Corey Brewer? Never followed him for an full season but when I do the guy makes great defensive plays and big threes. From that list I say Brewer. Ben Moore hasn’t shown me shit.

Brewer is a swing 2/3; what the Spurs need is more of a swing 3/4.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

Marquese Chriss is interesting in that he was a teammate of Dejounte Murray at the U. of Wash. Otherwise, I know little about him. He has the size to be a PF.

Chriss is still only 22 I believe. His biggest mistake was coming out after only 1 yr at Washington. He didn't start playing basketball until he was 14. He needs a lot of development in terms of bball iq. More time in college or even spending some time in the G league or overseas would have probably been better for his development than being thrown into the NBA. I haven't watched him enough in his NBA career to really have an opinion on whether he would be worth trying to salvage

[JeffDuncan]

Here's what draftnet said about Chriss.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/marquese-chriss

It speaks of him needing the D League for a year or two. Maybe he still does. But the Spurs need somebody now.

IOW, it says the same thing you did, SpaceCoast.

[duncan2150]

I will take a flyer on Bender and Faried

I'm not high on Lyles but why not.

[SpursDynasty85]

Can Hanga be bought out?

Spurs reneged on him after he flew down and stayed in SA last offseason.

[cd98]

The reality is that everything that is left is garbage heap. Spurs may be better off spending pennies of their mid-level and hoping that a decent wing gets bought out and they have most of the MLE to sign the player versus the rest of the league.

[Dverde]

I hear Tony Parker is high on Sam Dekker.

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/screen-shot-2017-05-28-at-8-32-24-am-e1495978504272.png?w=953&h=531&crop=1

[8FOR!3]

I don't see that Bender is really any better than Luka. Chris is a center in a PF's body.

[venitian navigator]

I don't see that Bender is really any better than Luka. Chris is a center in a PF's body.

Luka is 19, Bender 21...with three seasons of (bad) nba experience and the body and height (2.16 centimeters) of a top 4 talented draft pick...why don't try him in the best nba team for developing his skills? plus he's croatian like Samanic...
Chriss maybe a center just because is not developed at all and came in nba too early...but runs the court like a gazelle, jumps high as a kangaroo and has an outside shot (to develop) also from 3 point range (same as Bender)...plus he's from the same university and i think also played with one of the main young guys of our team.. (DJM).
I see a lot of reasons for investment on these two guys...from an outside point of wiew...obviously our PATFO have scrutinazed them in these years and knows better than all of us if they are worth spending money and time on them...but based only on (till now totally wasted) potential, the two guys, imho, could both become a bargain...(at the price and lenght and structure of contract I wrote some post before).

[mo7888]

Luka is 19, Bender 21...with three seasons of (bad) nba experience and the body and height (2.16 centimeters) of a top 4 talented draft pick...why don't try him in the best nba team for developing his skills? plus he's croatian like Samanic...
Chriss maybe a center just because is not developed at all and came in nba too early...but runs the court like a gazelle, jumps high as a kangaroo and has an outside shot (to develop) also from 3 point range (same as Bender)...plus he's from the same university and i think also played with one of the main young guys of our team.. (DJM).
I see a lot of reasons for investment on these two guys...from an outside point of wiew...obviously our PATFO have scrutinazed them in these years and knows better than all of us if they are worth spending money and time on them...but based only on (till now totally wasted) potential, the two guys, imho, could both become a bargain...(at the price and lenght and structure of contract I wrote some post before).

I would prefer a more physical 3rd center but, I'd be ok with Bender in that roll if the FO sees something there.

[exstatic]

Luka is 19, Bender 21...with three seasons of (bad) nba experience and the body and height (2.16 centimeters) of a top 4 talented draft pick...why don't try him in the best nba team for developing his skills? plus he's croatian like Samanic...
Chriss maybe a center just because is not developed at all and came in nba too early...but runs the court like a gazelle, jumps high as a kangaroo and has an outside shot (to develop) also from 3 point range (same as Bender)...plus he's from the same university and i think also played with one of the main young guys of our team.. (DJM).
I see a lot of reasons for investment on these two guys...from an outside point of wiew...obviously our PATFO have scrutinazed them in these years and knows better than all of us if they are worth spending money and time on them...but based only on (till now totally wasted) potential, the two guys, imho, could both become a bargain...(at the price and lenght and structure of contract I wrote some post before).

Chriss is a fucking headcase. The Spurs would never sign him. Bender has enough years in the league that you would literally be developing him for another team if you succeed in fixing his flaws. His next FA period will be unrestricted.

[JADG79]

My coworkers are making fun of me with Carmelo to SAS.
Hope Marcus reconsider to sign with Spurs, maybe they can offer him more years. But Marcus is looking for a big check and I understand him, his last contract was about 4Y/20M to play with his brother in PHX.

There is not SF/PF in the market right now.

[phxspurfan]

We should just go get Iggy:

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-grizzlies-looking-trade-andre-iguodala-no-buyout-plan

[JADG79]

Boston is going to waive Yabusele, maybe is an option. But Spurs are looking for a solid veteran.

[venitian navigator]

Chriss is a fucking headcase. The Spurs would never sign him. Bender has enough years in the league that you would literally be developing him for another team if you succeed in fixing his flaws. His next FA period will be unrestricted.

I know nothing about his mental state, but do you agree that one thing is being a head case when you are twenty, another when you are grown up?...and you can be an headcase how much you want but this could be his last chance to have a career or at least make some money...being a headcase is one thing, being stupid another...I'm sure he's freaking scared to lose all his chances to ba a well paid nba player (or a nba player at all) and could realize this is a lst chance opportunity.
I don't get your point on Bender...ha has already three years of experience and the structure of the contract I proposed for both (one year guarantee, next three years at team option) give the chance to PATFO to evaluate the learning process year by year...and decide year by year if he's progressing enough to be with the team again. So no risk in the sense you are wrinting about...

[cd98]

Sign whoever is not a Klutch client.

[Pavlov]

What the hell happened to Anderson's shot last year? He could've easily replaced Bertans' shooting anytime before that.

[buujness]

None of these names are worth a damn; they'd just be signing a guy to sign a guy, with maybe an exception for Hanga, if he could forgive the Spurs.

The Spurs options really are to make a trade for RoCo or Gallinari; or just leave the spot open, move Carroll to the spot where Morris would have been, and let KJ soak up some minutes backing up DeMar at the three. Until you find a decent buyout option, that is.

[NASpurs]

So can we keep the MLE and use it in the buyout market because what’s left right now outside of Oubre is hot shit.

[JADG79]

None of these names are worth a damn; they'd just be signing a guy to sign a guy, with maybe an exception for Hanga, if he could forgive the Spurs.

The Spurs options really are to make a trade for RoCo or Gallinari; or just leave the spot open, move Carroll to the spot where Morris would have been, and let KJ soak up some minutes backing up DeMar at the three. Until you find a decent buyout option, that is.

Bertans was key for a trade for RoCo or Gallo. Now we don’t have to match salary.

[cjw]

So can we keep the MLE and use it in the buyout market because what’s left right now outside of Oubre is hot shit.

Yes, they’d be able to.

I think you can use it all the way until the start of the new league year, right (someone who has memorized CBA FAQ may know). If that’s the case, why not offer it to Nikola at the end of the season and he’d essentially get paid twice ... unless money is prorated? They’d then have the MLE available again next season.

[spurs50_]

Sign Oubre already.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sign Oubre already.

[cjw]

Sign Oubre already.

He isn’t taking $10mm per year, and no teams have cap space anymore

At this point he’s going to play out the $5mm-ish QO unless the Suns give him something he likes. Otherwise, will be a UFA in a crappy FA class.

[exstatic]

I know nothing about his mental state, but do you agree that one thing is being a head case when you are twenty, another when you are grown up?...and you can be an headcase how much you want but this could be his last chance to have a career or at least make some money...being a headcase is one thing, being stupid another...I'm sure he's freaking scared to lose all his chances to ba a well paid nba player (or a nba player at all) and could realize this is a lst chance opportunity.
I don't get your point on Bender...ha has already three years of experience and the structure of the contract I proposed for both (one year guarantee, next three years at team option) give the chance to PATFO to evaluate the learning process year by year...and decide year by year if he's progressing enough to be with the team again. So no risk in the sense you are wrinting about...

I don't think you can structure a contract as a 4 year deal with each year a team option, and no one would sign one if you could. The best you could do is 3 years, year 3 a team option, and he'd probably leave then. Why invest the time?

Chriss is a nut case, and while he's not 20, he's only 22, and probably hasn't done much growing up yet. The same things apply to him, contract wise. If you invest in developing him, he's going to leave at the end of his deal.

[venitian navigator]

I don't think you can structure a contract as a 4 year deal with each year a team option, and no one would sign one if you could. The best you could do is 3 years, year 3 a team option, and he'd probably leave then. Why invest the time?

Chriss is a nut case, and while he's not 20, he's only 22, and probably hasn't done much growing up yet. The same things apply to him, contract wise. If you invest in developing him, he's going to leave at the end of his deal.

I think a similar deal was made with Blair...but maybe the rules were different at that time so I can't say...I'm not that expert in the current cba. That said, one sure thing is that if a player signs a three years contract you have his bird rights...so you have an easier way to sign him again and decide to exploit or not the assumed development he had thanks to you.

[phxspurfan]

If you invest in developing him, he's going to leave at the end of his deal.

I love how this is a repeating theme in :lol Today's NBA :lol


:depressed

[Atl Spur]

Bender for a 3 year team friendly deal ( team option 3 year ).

[JADG79]

I will take a flyer on Bender and Faried

I'm not high on Lyles but why not.

Spurs can take a chance and waive a player now and take two player using MLE.
I like Faried as a defender and rebounder. Spurs doesn't have an athletic player like Faried in the bench.
The second player could be a failed PF project from another team with a developed body. (Bender, Yabusele, Diallo etc...)

Or try to convince OKC to buyout Gallo at half salary with the promise that they will give him full MLE.
Is a win win for both teams. OKC does have to pay 11M and Spurs get the player they need.

[ceperez]

Spurs can take a chance and waive a player now and take two player using MLE.
I like Faried as a defender and rebounder. Spurs doesn't have an athletic player like Faried in the bench.
The second player could be a failed PF project from another team with a developed body. (Bender, Yabusele, Diallo etc...)

Or try to convince OKC to buyout Gallo at half salary with the promise that they will give him full MLE.
Is a win win for both teams. OKC does have to pay 11M and Spurs get the player they need.

I like the Spurs new flexibility now that Morris is gone!