Thread for Posters from Elite US Universities

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This thread is exclusively for SpursTalk posters who have been admitted to or obtained a degree from an elite US university, as defined by falling within the top 20 of the US News and World Report National University Rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rice is overrated AF and UT Austin is still ranked way too high at #49. A&M should always be ahead of them in any rankings, no matter what.

But agreed with the top 15 or so. Also, :tu at Princeton being ranked #1 over Harvard.

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Rice is overrated AF and UT Austin is still ranked way too high at #49. A&M should always be ahead of them in any rankings, no matter what.

But agreed with the top 15 or so. Also, :tu at Princeton being ranked #1 over Harvard.
Where do you think Rice should be ranked? Outside the top 20?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Where do you think Rice should be ranked? Outside the top 20?

Like 40s and behind A&M

[spurraider21]

stupid thread tbh

but UCLA does sneak in at 19 :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

stupid thread tbh

but UCLA does sneak in at 19 :lol

Pretty incredible for a public school that isn't terribly hard to get into if you're a CA resident with good grades.

[spurraider21]

Pretty incredible for a public school that isn't terribly hard to get into if you're a CA resident with good grades.
UC is the best public school system in the country and there isn't a close second.

no need for backhanded compliments, btw

[Millennial_Messiah]

UC is the best public school system in the country and there isn't a close second.

no need for backhanded compliments, btw
I'm not saying they aren't. For public schools nearly all of the UC system crack that top 50. But it's not like TX where you have to be top 10% of your class (or an athlete) to get into a decent school

[phxspurfan]

Lot of the UC schools seems overrated. Wtf is Irvine doing on this list, or Santa whatever. Those are obvious party schools. Also, University of Chicago, really?

[spurraider21]

I'm not saying they aren't. For public schools nearly all of the UC system crack that top 50. But it's not like TX where you have to be top 10% of your class (or an athlete) to get into a decent school


Lot of the UC schools seems overrated. Wtf is Irvine doing on this list, or Santa whatever. Those are obvious party schools. Also, University of Chicago, really?
you guys cant post in this thread per its own rules, sorry

[Bynumite]

Checking in :tu

[Uriel]

I think that definition is too restrictive. Any school within the top 25-30 of the US News ranking (particularly schools like Berkeley, Georgetown, and Michigan) can rightly be considered "elite," broadly defined.

That said, still checking in under the original definition :tu

[Spurtacular]

Lot of the UC schools seems overrated. Wtf is Irvine doing on this list, or Santa whatever. Those are obvious party schools. Also, University of Chicago, really?

UCI is easily top UC school in academics; that is no secret among CA residents. It has a top flight medical program that is among the best in the country. Sometimes, UC Berkeley gets considered better based on undeserved folklore that it's up there. It's sort of like some of the IVY league schools who have realistically fallen but get rated high based on reputation rather than a hard look at reality.

UCSB has the hottest chicks bar none. I would doubt it deserves its ranking for academia if it's up there. I didn't look at the list.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I jacked off once on a chick who went to Harvard, does that count

[Millennial_Messiah]

I jacked off once on a chick who went to Harvard, does that count

On the computer screen that displayed such chick? Nope.

[Chucho]

Checking in :tu

LOL. Riggghhhhttttt.

[BD24]

My school rings in the top 50, not quite top 20 though

[DMC]

Doesn't matter where you went, it only matters where you're going. I encounter guys from these schools daily, many of them aren't going anywhere.

[spurraider21]

UCI is easily top UC school in academics; that is no secret among CA residents. It has a top flight medical program that is among the best in the country. Sometimes, UC Berkeley gets considered better based on undeserved folklore that it's up there. It's sort of like some of the IVY league schools who have realistically fallen but get rated high based on reputation rather than a hard look at reality.

UCSB has the hottest chicks bar none. I would doubt it deserves its ranking for academia if it's up there. I didn't look at the list.
UCI is quite good, tbh.. but overall its still squarely behind LA and cal. wasn't that long ago that UCSD was even considered a better school, but Irvine is on the rise and SD has been steadily falling in prestige. their law school is fantastic given that its only a few years old. i dont think they're overtaking LA anytime soon. Cal's lack of med school is a general knock on them when doing an overall ranking

SB is a solid school. it does have a big party reputation... but their academics aren't reflective of that.

when i was applying for colleges out of high school, Cal and UCLA were neck and neck, with UCSD still very high tier but clearly a step below the top 2. then irvine/SB were the next tier, followed by davis/riverside/santa cruz. looking at rankings now, SD has fallen quite a bit with irvine essentially replacing them as the clear #3

[BD24]

Doesn't matter where you went, it only matters where you're going. I encounter guys from these schools daily, many of them aren't going anywhere.
This tbh. Plenty of people I graduated with that aren’t doing shit.

[DMC]

This tbh. Plenty of people I graduated with that aren’t doing shit.

I do a lot of consulting work in many of these schools in their science and physics departments and a good number of the grad students I encounter couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were on the bottom. Even some of the assoc profs don't impress me. Usually the professors are accomplished though.

[phxspurfan]

"I didn't go to an Ivy League school, but I got plenty of Ivy leaguers working for me!" - Charles Barkley

[Millennial_Messiah]

"I didn't go to an Ivy League school, but I got plenty of Ivy leaguers working for me!" - Charles Barkley

"I didn't go to Mexico (and consider chips and queso my favorite Mexican food), but I got plenty of Mexicans working for me!" - ??

[phxspurfan]

"I didn't go to Mexico (and consider chips and queso my favorite Mexican food), but I got plenty of Mexicans working for me!" - ??

I went to Taco Bell, the Ivy League of Mexican cuisine...

[phxspurfan]

Damn, party schools be takin over this nerdfest thread

[Mitch]

Guess I qualify if the top 15 of that list is good enough :lol

Never ran into an instance that what college I went to really mattered, tbh. Might have helped some of my resumes when I was starting out, I guess.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I don't see Telferner Tech?

[Millennial_Messiah]

I went to Taco Bell, the Ivy League of Mexican cuisine...

Ivy League of Mexican cuisine is in San Antonio.

I don't love a lot about SA, but the Mexican food is second to none there. Better than California, Arizona, anywhere up north, Dixie, Houston, or whitewashed-ass-Dallas.


Protip:

-Chips and salsa is MEXICAN food.
-Chips and queso is white American food that whites try to pass off as Mexican.

[SpursforSix]

Ivy League of Mexican cuisine is in San Antonio.

I don't love a lot about SA, but the Mexican food is second to none there. Better than California, Arizona, anywhere up north, Dixie, Houston, or whitewashed-ass-Dallas.


Protip:

-Chips and salsa is MEXICAN food.
-Chips and queso is white American food that whites try to pass off as Mexican.

You're an imbecile

[140]

You're an imbecile
:lol

[Mark Celibate]

I do a lot of consulting work in many of these schools in their science and physics departments and a good number of the grad students I encounter couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were on the bottom. Even some of the assoc profs don't impress me. Usually the professors are accomplished though.

agreed with this. tbh I'm training a couple of new engineers in my field that we just hired right now, and one of them went to a good school but can't seem to wipe his own ass without me showing him the mechanics . Dude just came from a rich family who stuffed him in a billion AP classes from the time he was 9 years old. He can probably rattle off some of the elements on the periodic table, but literally needs help opening up a package from FedEx. whereas the other guy is an army vet, only one year older, only community college under his belt, and is running laps around him. I barely need to tell him anything before he's already finished one assignment and asking me what else he can do :lol

wouldn't surprise me if the "elite college" guy got fired sometime in the next few months

[spurraider21]

Guess I qualify if the top 15 of that list is good enough :lol

Never ran into an instance that what college I went to really mattered, tbh. Might have helped some of my resumes when I was starting out, I guess.
helps with first job tbh. if you're any good at your job, it shouldn't hold you back past that imo

[Mitch]

helps with first job tbh. if you're any good at your job, it shouldn't hold you back past that imo

I'd figure, seeing Harvard pops out but if you score any internships that's going to weigh more I figure. Had a few years of paid internship and that probably helped a lot more.

[Millennial_Messiah]

agreed with this. tbh I'm training a couple of new engineers in my field that we just hired right now, and one of them went to a good school but can't seem to wipe his own ass without me showing him the mechanics . Dude just came from a rich family who stuffed him in a billion AP classes from the time he was 9 years old. He can probably rattle off some of the elements on the periodic table, but literally needs help opening up a package from FedEx. whereas the other guy is an army vet, only one year older, only community college under his belt, and is running laps around him. I barely need to tell him anything before he's already finished one assignment and asking me what else he can do :lol

wouldn't surprise me if the "elite college" guy got fired sometime in the next few months
yeah, school is overrated, and it's something you can easily lie about on a resume if you're in a high demand career like tech. Work experience is harder to lie about and even if you do it really shows up hard when you actually get the job.

Work experience >>>>>>> school. School especially university is a big scamjob. It's only good for college football and easy pussy.

[Mark Celibate]

yeah, school is overrated, and it's something you can easily lie about on a resume if you're in a high demand career like tech. Work experience is harder to lie about and even if you do it really shows up hard when you actually get the job.

Work experience >>>>>>> school. School especially university is a big scamjob. It's only good for college football and easy pussy.

yeah that's the field I'm in, and it's really just about articulating the specific skills/projects you've been involved in or lead. it's too specialized to get in just with a nice looking diploma. For other fields though, like spurraider said a good school will definitely get you a foot in the door for jobs that aren't as specialized

[pgardn]

yeah, school is overrated, and it's something you can easily lie about on a resume if you're in a high demand career like tech. Work experience is harder to lie about and even if you do it really shows up hard when you actually get the job.

Work experience >>>>>>> school. School especially university is a big scamjob. It's only good for college football and easy pussy.

Yeah well that can be absolute BS.
In Science you go to school and ask to work with a professor after doing well in his/her class and don’t worry about a “no room for you”. You keep doing this and you keep meeting new people with new ideas. You learn new techniques from different labs in your area. (Yes, even as an UG) You need to know PEOPLE and you need to know your shit. If you don’t have the background for jobs dealing with the forefront of a scienceor a technology, you will get exposed and you will be embarrassed. I will add it helps to be good all the sciences form Physics all the way to the most complex, Biology. With Chemistry sandwiched between.

And of course there are very valuable people who can’t use a nail gun or solder.
But you would like them to be able to.

[Millennial_Messiah]

yeah that's the field I'm in, and it's really just about articulating the specific skills/projects you've been involved in or lead. it's too specialized to get in just with a nice looking diploma. For other fields though, like spurraider said a good school will definitely get you a foot in the door for jobs that aren't as specialized

If you have a bachelor's degree and no work experience... you get an "entry level software developer" campus program job where they hold your hand for awhile and pay you entry level salary, $70k/year in DFW.

If you spent those 4 years working instead with an actual employer in lieu of the degree... you get immediately onboarded to a project and you're easily making $90-100k salary or more and you have money saved up from your previous 4 years of employment instead of student loan debt.

The Indian recruiters/staffers who call you don't give a damn about education. All they care about is "years of work experience". The first question they ask after they tell you the implementation partner, end client, location and target salary of the job is how many years of work experience do you have in career field X (for example, java development). They'll never ask you about where you went to school or if you even have a degree at all because they just don't give a damn, and why would they? The way computer programming/IT is taught academically is galaxies apart from the real tech world in the office. If anything I'd see the degree as a negative for that reason IMO.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah well that can be absolute BS.
In Science you go to school and ask to work with a professor after doing well in his/her class and don’t worry about a “no room for you”. You keep doing this and you keep meeting new people with new ideas. You learn new techniques from different labs in your area. (Yes, even as an UG) You need to know PEOPLE and you need to know your shit. If you don’t have the background for jobs dealing with the forefront of a scienceor a technology, you will get exposed and you will be embarrassed. I will add it helps to be good all the sciences form Physics all the way to the most complex, Biology. With Chemistry sandwiched between.

And of course there are very valuable people who can’t use a nail gun or solder.
But you would like them to be able to.
The academic far-left who can't do a damn thing practical, zero motor skills, can't change the AC filter much less fix a fence, zero actual money-making career ambition etc. are pathetic. Sure you NEED education for some things like health professional school including medical school. But something like business analytics, java developers, front end developers, database developers, data scientists? You can learn that shit in high school or on the side when going to high school. Get a job doing that straight out of high school, forego college, make solid money while your friends are going balls deep in debt for a piece of shiny piece of paper. Get your own apartment and visit your friends at their dorms and frat houses and drink their beer on their dime. Save that money and buy a house with cash (no mortgage) before you're 25. Livin' the life.

[pgardn]

The academic far-left who can't do a damn thing practical, zero motor skills, can't change the AC filter much less fix a fence, zero actual money-making career ambition etc. are pathetic. Sure you NEED education for some things like health professional school including medical school. But something like business analytics, java developers, front end developers, database developers, data scientists? You can learn that shit in high school or on the side when going to high school. Get a job doing that straight out of high school, forego college, make solid money while your friends are going balls deep in debt for a piece of shiny piece of paper. Get your own apartment and visit your friends at their dorms and frat houses and drink their beer on their dime. Save that money and buy a house with cash (no mortgage) before you're 25. Livin' the life.

Yeah.

Sure.


Academic left that work for Universities, are the movers of a business, and event a new technology.
Ghastly for you that they actually exist. You see some English Professor who is the leading authority on 60s Science Fiction. There are people of all political stripes that can’t work with electricity or a pneumatic jack hammer.

[Mark Celibate]

Yeah well that can be absolute BS.
In Science you go to school and ask to work with a professor after doing well in his/her class and don’t worry about a “no room for you”. You keep doing this and you keep meeting new people with new ideas. You learn new techniques from different labs in your area. (Yes, even as an UG) You need to know PEOPLE and you need to know your shit. If you don’t have the background for jobs dealing with the forefront of a scienceor a technology, you will get exposed and you will be embarrassed. I will add it helps to be good all the sciences form Physics all the way to the most complex, Biology. With Chemistry sandwiched between.

And of course there are very valuable people who can’t use a nail gun or solder.
But you would like them to be able to.

not necessarily talking about those types. I'll never scoff at someone for not knowing a menial task, that's just Dunning-Kruger coping...I do get annoyed at the (usually recent) college grads who don't have that "figure it out for myself" thought process. They need a professor to give them the lecture for them to regurgitate word for word, and then need their employer to tell them how to do literally everything consistently. The ones who are in perpetual "training" mode. Those people are useless

[pgardn]

not necessarily talking about those types. I'll never scoff at someone for not knowing a menial task, that's just Dunning-Kruger coping...I do get annoyed at the (usually recent) college grads who don't have that "figure it out for myself" thought process. They need a professor to give them the lecture for them to regurgitate word for word, and then need their employer to tell them how to do literally everything consistently. The ones who are in perpetual "training" mode. Those people are useless

What employer? Fast food?

Natural selection says hi.
Or have daddy give you millions. Give you a start and allow you to “learn” from huge mistakes.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah.

Sure.


Academic left that work for Universities, are the movers of a business, and event a new technology.
Ghastly for you that they actually exist. You see some English Professor who is the leading authority on 60s Science Fiction. There are people of all political stripes that can’t work with electricity or a pneumatic jack hammer.

Academic left usually don't do business. They shun them.


Those English professor types are almost 100 percent left wing, tbh.

[pgardn]

Academic left usually don't do business. They shun them.


Those English professor types are almost 100 percent left wing, tbh.

BS

They spawn business in science.
Somebody got to do basic research that leaks into technology.
You don’t realize the very tight coexistence of academics and businesses.
Geologists keep you in your car.

[Millennial_Messiah]

BS

They spawn business in science.
Somebody got to do basic research that leaks into technology.
You don’t realize the very tight coexistence of academics and businesses.
Geologists keep you in your car.
And then want to tax, tax, tax and regulate, regulate, regulate and propose nazi like policies.

Hypocritical.

[pgardn]

And then want to tax, tax, tax and regulate, regulate, regulate and propose nazi like policies.

Hypocritical.

What?

[Millennial_Messiah]

What?

"Green New Deal" ?

Seems strangely familiar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml54UuAoLSo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnddMpzPsM

[xfegasbf]

I am appalled that this thread, which is supposed to be an enclave for the educated elite, has been taken over by riff-raff from third-tier universities.

[Mark Celibate]

What employer? Fast food?

Natural selection says hi.
Or have daddy give you millions. Give you a start and allow you to “learn” from huge mistakes.

meh, there's many corporate jobs out there where you can get away with this shit for years on end. Or basically forever until it's time for layoffs and you're the first to go. Hell, there's a lot of corporate jobs out there where certain employees can just roll over and die and productivity wouldn't take a hit at all

[DMC]

agreed with this. tbh I'm training a couple of new engineers in my field that we just hired right now, and one of them went to a good school but can't seem to wipe his own ass without me showing him the mechanics . Dude just came from a rich family who stuffed him in a billion AP classes from the time he was 9 years old. He can probably rattle off some of the elements on the periodic table, but literally needs help opening up a package from FedEx. whereas the other guy is an army vet, only one year older, only community college under his belt, and is running laps around him. I barely need to tell him anything before he's already finished one assignment and asking me what else he can do :lol

wouldn't surprise me if the "elite college" guy got fired sometime in the next few months

Now he'll be promoted to manager because he won't be a loss at the level he's at now. Then they'll introduce him as manager with some email with his background and education listed in there to impress people who don't know him and likely will never actually meet him.

[DMC]

What employer? Fast food?

Natural selection says hi.
Or have daddy give you millions. Give you a start and allow you to “learn” from huge mistakes.

You sound like a fucking idiot. I bet you do laundry for a living.

[spurraider21]

andy showing nothing but resentment and diploma penis envy ITT :lol...

"everyone who went to better schools than me is a far left liberal elitist who has no actual skills or money earning/generating ability while wanting to pass the green new deal!"

the extreme defensiveness is really odd considering almost everyone who has commented here has acknowledged that your ability/employability is dependent on many factors and merely coming from a good alma mater doesn't make you better than others

[pgardn]

You sound like a fucking idiot. I bet you do laundry for a living. Hello Guy who pretends to head hunt for academics in science and physics. The guy who can see wind and can measure it by feel.

You might check off boxes, might...
“Does applicant have a head? “ check

[Mitch]

andy showing nothing but resentment and diploma penis envy ITT :lol...

"everyone who went to better schools than me is a far left liberal elitist who has no actual skills or money earning/generating ability while wanting to pass the green new deal!"

the extreme defensiveness is really odd considering almost everyone who has commented here has acknowledged that your ability/employability is dependent on many factors and merely coming from a good alma mater doesn't make you better than others

Andy is a beto voter, tbh. Not sure why he pretends to be right wing

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

No Edna State?