Official Trey "Not Davis Bertans" Lyles Thread

[spurraider21]

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[slick'81]

Dude has been god awful but better then nothing i guess

[davidbowie]

now we'll never get to the 2nd round smh

[Leetonidas]

Dude has been god awful but better then nothing i guess

I don't know about that. Yea he hasn't lived up to his potential but he's still young. Definitely worse players on the market still. He shot decently his first 3 years, tho idk what happened to his shot last season

[Gordy58]

Being optimistic here, he a had solid season the year before last year, shot great from three, strung together a lot of nice performances, he has some Diaw potential minus the defense, only 23.
Reason he regressed in my opinion was because he was the odd man out in the nuggets rotation. Never got rhythm and therefore shot horribly.

Just hope its it’s not the full MLE.

[ace3g]

This offseason is still a C+ for me. Lyles is more of a stretch PF, I was hoping for a SF that could play PF.

[spurraider21]

This offseason is still a C+ for me. Lyles is more of a stretch PF, I was hoping for a SF that could play PF.
he's a strictly worse bertans with purely theoretical upside

[sananspursfan21]

Eh, his saving grace is that he’s young. And as everyone knows, our guys are one of if not the best at uncovering talent. I’m trying to see the bright side here!

[Pavlov]

Well, if they can get a 24 year old back to his level of play as a 22 year old, they're going to be doing OK.

[RC_Drunkford]

can he guard Paul George? :lmao

[Drom John]

ESPN Real Plus Minus RPM PFs

48 Amile Jefferson
49 Donatas Motiejunas
50 Marcus Morris
51 TJ Lief

54 Kostas Antetokounmpo
55 Drew Eubanks
56 Semi Ojeleye

74 Alize Johnson
75 Trey Lyles
76 Bobby Portis

[Blackhaus]

This offseason is still a C+ for me. Lyles is more of a stretch PF, I was hoping for a SF that could play PF.

Demarre says hi

[Mr. Body]

What's funny is this guy did in college what Morris did in the pros. He committed to Indiana University then pulled out and went to Kentucky.

This is looking like his last contract. If he doesn't make this, he's basically done. Imagine being 23 with that height and some skills and just being shit.

[slick'81]

Hs no luka samanic tbh

[cjw]

Bertans couldn’t play in the Denver series purely because Lyles wasn’t out there

Let that sink in for a second

[r0drig0lac]

Dude has been god awful but better then nothing i guess

https://media.giphy.com/media/RN9wo1TPU0e0wm4a7l/giphy.gif

[John B]

6’10” with nearly 7’4” wingspan, can shoot the 3, has the body of a phototyphical PF. Can play smallball C. Former 12 overall pick. Spurs need to unlock this guy’s skills and could have great upside. He doesn’t have the toughness that Morris brings though that Spurs seem to be lacking.

[wildbill2u]

CAN HE PLAY DEFENSE? I don't know much about him since he was buried in Denver.

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh brother this guy stinks. Went from the best offseason from RC in years to a typical shit one from him.

[ceperez]

6’10” with nearly 7’4” wingspan, can shoot the 3, has the body of a phototyphical PF. Can play smallball C. Former 12 overall pick. Spurs need to unlock this guy’s skills and could have great upside. He doesn’t have the toughness that Morris brings though that Spurs seem to be lacking.

7'1.5" wingspan according to NBA. 23 years old. I guess we might consider him a rookie with 4 years NBA experience?

[spurraider21]

Oh brother this guy stinks. Went from the best offseason from RC in years to a typical shit one from him.
cant really blame him for marcus morris tbh... he was stuck without a paddle when morris reneged since we had already given away bertans

[Spurs da champs]

The Spurs couldve traded for Jerami Grant, no?

[Kori Ellis]

:lmao

I hope he turns into a decent player, but my hopes aren't high.

[TheGreatYacht]

cant really blame him for marcus morris tbh... he was stuck without a paddle when morris reneged since we had already given away bertans
We can blame for the Carroll salary+ years increase and the Samanic reach. Brandon Clarke will haunt us for years to come, he was one of the surest picks in the draft and would’ve filled this problem we have with the PF position from day 1

[John B]

7'1.5" wingspan according to NBA. 23 years old. I guess we might consider him a rookie with 4 years NBA experience?
I can see the Diaw comparison with his bball IQ and passing, can shoot the 3. He aligns with our young core. I really hope he pans out. I like him to build more muscle, upper body strength to backup C, depend Millsap, Davis.

[HankChinaski]

I'm just wanting to see contract numbers. A one year deal would be the most favorable option.

[ceperez]

Perhaps we can consider him like a Kyle Anderson. But with more atheticism and willing to shoot the 3.

[Slippy]

So hard to get excited about this one. Wonder why. Haha

Spurs getting leftovers that nobody else wanted.

Prove us all wrong. Trey

[Slippy]

So hard to get excited about this one. Wonder why. Haha

Spurs getting leftovers that nobody else wanted.

Prove us all wrong. Trey

[poopbox]

Has he actually signed yet :lol

[slick'81]

Has he actually signed yet :lol


Nobody wanted him and beggars cant be choosers.its a win/win for clutch sports and if he turns into anything well def lose him

[spurraider21]

We can blame for the Carroll salary+ years increase and the Samanic reach. Brandon Clarke will haunt us for years to come, he was one of the surest picks in the draft and would’ve filled this problem we have with the PF position from day 1
carroll contract change was also specifically for morris. we had to turn carroll into a sign and trade to preserve MLE for morris. sign and trades requires 3 year deals minimum, so we HAD to change carroll from 2 to 3 (3rd year has like 1 mil guarantee only). i cant ride RC for the bertans/carroll moves because they cant anticipate morris being a bitch

ive been critical of the samanic pick, too. but at the time was in favor of nassir little because i thought we needed an eventual derozan replacement. if we were going to dump bertans and try to ugprade at the 4, yeah clarke made a ton of sense. would have given us a lot of what we wanted out of morris

[r0drig0lac]

Has he actually signed yet :lol

he will have a recovery season, then will sign with the Lakers or with the Nets

[JADG79]

We want to make from lemons, lemonade with this sign.

We are hurting ourself

[EricB]

The Spurs couldve traded for Jerami Grant, no?


No

[GreekSpursfan]

Lol at people thinking that Samanic is a bust without even setting foot in an NBA arena while being 19 years old. Spurs will develop him, he will be absolutely fine if he has the work ethic.

[spurraider21]

Lol at people thinking that Samanic is a bust without even setting foot in an NBA arena while being 19 years old. Spurs will develop him, he will be absolutely fine if he has the work ethic.
he's not a bust. he was just overdrafted, given that the spurs dont seem to expect him to be a real contributor to the team anytime soon.

[GreekSpursfan]

he's not a bust. he was just overdrafted, given that the spurs dont seem to expect him to be a real contributor to the team anytime soon.

I'm hearing about this Clarke guy and i made a little research, his ceiling is low, nothing special imo. Spurs did well to draft Samanic and its gonna show after two years when we might be actually able to contend.

[CGD]

https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/ap_17346067871495-e1513226442948.jpg?w=610&h=343&crop=1

There is a scenario where this guys gets signed with the lesser exception (biannual or whatever it’s called now) and the spurs retain the full MLE right?

[Blackhaus]

Maybe that thing air in Denver messed with his game and he can return to form from 2 years ago and build upon it. He’s with the right team to develop, hope he uses this time wisely.

[spurraider21]

There is a scenario where this guys gets signed with the lesser exception (biannual or whatever it’s called now) and the spurs retain the full MLE right?
there's no point in preserving the MLE. there's nobody worth spending it on. better to preserve the biannual for when we actually need it.

[playblair]

= austin daye

[BatManu20]

2-yrs/$11M. 2nd year is Not guaranteed thankfully. Not bad.


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[Mr. Body]

Thankfully not much.

[Blackhaus]

2nd year team option?

[CGD]

https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/ap_17346067871495-e1513226442948.jpg?w=610&h=343&crop=1


there's no point in preserving the MLE. there's nobody worth spending it on. better to preserve the biannual for when we actually need it.

Truth, but was just thinking about the buy out market (Eg to claim Iggy for example)

[vander]

Man, trading Bertans for nothing was such a stupid move. Unload Belli instead or offer more years to Morris, must be that Pop doesn't like Bertans.

[Seventyniner]

This offseason is still a C+ for me. Lyles is more of a stretch PF, I was hoping for a SF that could play PF.

The only thing that's a stretch about Lyles is the idea that he will turn into a useful NBA player.

[cool cat]

Has he actually signed yet :lol

Him and Rich Paul show up to sign the contract and the building is empty.

[ace3g]

The only thing that's a stretch about Lyles is the idea that he will turn into a useful NBA player.


And that is part of the problem - Lyles feels more like an insurance policy than a rotation piece.

[El Santo]

jeff ayers 2.0 ????

[Texas_Ranger]

8th seed here we come. Cant wait for those 3pts per game in the playoffs from trey.

[Hyperhypo]

God, this guy looks trash. I'd rather bring back Livio Jean Charles for the year

[Atl Spur]

The only thing that's a stretch about Lyles is the idea that he will turn into a useful NBA player.

You may be 100% right but I think you are just talking to be talking. I don’t even know one way or the other if he’s trash or not but I’m willing to place a gentleman’s bet with you stating the opposite. You game? It’ll be fun........

[Atl Spur]

God, this guy looks trash. I'd rather bring back Livio Jean Charles for the year

The above offer is also is extended to you too my guy��

[mexicanjunior]

At this point, I just hope this POS doesn't show up for his physical...

[jbspurs]

jeff ayers 2.0 ????

More like Anderson with a little bit of quickness.

[DPG21920]

Watch, Lyles is going to get injured too while Morris stays healthy all year.

[Big P]

jeff ayers 2.0 ????

More like Austin Daye 2.0

[Hyperhypo]

The above offer is also is extended to you too my guy��
if I wasn't such a Spurs fan I would but I can't root against a Spur. He looks like trash but if he's league MVP next year I'd wet myself. I imagine he'll be closer to the bottom than the top of the NBA but I can't root against him :P

[spurraider21]

jeff ayers 2.0 ????
more like austin daye 2.0

edit: Big P beat me to it

[DPG21920]

More like Trey Loles amiright?

[Atl Spur]

if I wasn't such a Spurs fan I would but I can't root against a Spur. He looks like trash but if he's league MVP next year I'd wet myself. I imagine he'll be closer to the bottom than the top of the NBA but I can't root against him :P

Cool; I can respect that.

[slick'81]

Cool; I can respect that.


Just curious atl what are the paramaters of this bet involving lyles?

[ceperez]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).

[szkorhetz]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).

WTF. This guy has some serious character issues...

[spurraider21]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).
austin daye

[Texas_Ranger]

i just outscored Morris with Trey on 2k, 15 to 5. I am way more optimistic now. :rollin

[RC_Drunkford]

Oh brother this guy stinks. Went from the best offseason from RC in years to a typical shit one from him.

this. Can't blame RC though, Morris fucked him over. I don't expect Lyles to be better than Cunningham

[Atl Spur]

Just curious atl what are the paramaters of this bet involving lyles?

I’m listening....... a lot of neg energy surrounding dude. Will he exceed Bertans productivity in your mind?

[John B]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).
Geez did PATFO do their diligence before signing this lazy bum? He better whip it up or his career is over.

[SAGirl]

now we'll never get to the 2nd round smh
:lmao

[Ignazzz]

Bad signing

very bad defender
3 pointer isnt regular at all
good speed
non work etic guy - during Jazz training ( 3 hrs) had problem with it
lazy guy with no chance to fulfill Morris role
there was a concept with Moris and his D
opposite guy

[Prime BEEF]

Yup. Very bad signing.

[jsc8116]

Silver lining though this will help improve our draft position next year, if not make us a lottery team!

[DPG21920]

Spurs are a playoff team, IMO, but it has nothing to do with Lyles. Replacing Cunningham and Pondexter with Carroll and Lyles is fine, but doesn’t move the needle too much. This signing doesn’t hurt SA other than bending the knee to Klutch (IMO), but this team was and is a playoff team due to adding Murray/Lonnie/White improvement.

[SAGirl]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).
Not like Anderson. Anderson was a good defender, and a combo forward who even in Memphis was assigned to defend wings. Lyles is strictly a PF.

Frankly reminds me of Joffrey Lauvergne, but I hope he’s better than JoLo, bc he wasn’t an NBA player after all.

[ceperez]

this. Can't blame RC though, Morris fucked him over. I don't expect Lyles to be better than Cunningham

Cunningham actually shot the 3 pretty well last season. He just couldn't guard anyone! Well, maybe Lyles length can guard someone.

[Dverde]

Maybe he can guard Denver’s ogre for 10 minutes a playoff game. Should have guarded him a ton in practice.

[pad300]

I gotta admit, I'm not in love with this signing. $5.5 this year and a partial next year is enough that the Spurs could go looking at the Euro market. Milutinov isn't neccesarily the fit we want, but I'm not to sure that Lyles is a better bet than say Chris Singleton, Nicolo Melli or Shengelia. IF we widen the position considered a bit more, Will Clyburn would be another option (and there's somebody else, a center with a 3 pt shot, who can play down at the 4, but I just can't pull his name to mind...).

[ceperez]

I get this feeling that the Spurs is the last stop for free-agents to jump start their career.

Cunningham and Pondexter don't appear to be getting a contract by anyone.
David Lee, Lauverne, Brandon Paul, Pau Gasol all haven't signed anywhere after their Spurs stint.

It's different if the Spurs find a player from elsewhere:

Boban, Jamychal Green, Simmons, Tolliver, Arcidiacono

In short, if you don't play well with the Spurs, you won't play well anywhere else!!

[Mr. Body]

I get this feeling that the Spurs is the last stop for free-agents to jump start their career.

Cunningham and Pondexter don't appear to be getting a contract by anyone.
David Lee, Lauverne, Brandon Paul, Pau Gasol all haven't signed anywhere after their Spurs stint.

It's different if the Spurs find a player from elsewhere:

Boban, Jamychal Green, Simmons, Tolliver, Arcidiacono

In short, if you don't play well with the Spurs, you won't play well anywhere else!!

Not sure the distinction you're making. They've found a good number of players off the ash heap and revived their careers -- Danny Green is the prime recent example. But they do have to go bargain hunting.

[ceperez]

Not sure the distinction you're making. They've found a good number of players off the ash heap and revived their careers -- Danny Green is the prime recent example. But they do have to go bargain hunting.

I'm saying that if you go to the Spurs and don't play well, then other teams don't sign you. Meaning, the league expectations is that you have to be pretty bad if you can't contribute while playing in the Spurs system.

I mean even Boris Diaw (who should have won finals MVP in 2014) was sent to Utah, but was never re-signed after his original contract expired.

[paperboy77]

Austin Daye type? Hope not.

[BackHome]

Nope your are 100 % correct.

[horseshue]

I remember Trey as a man who guarded Kobe on last possesion un his final game and let him score a game winner.

[phxspurfan]

Spurs are a playoff team, IMO, but it has nothing to do with Lyles. Replacing Cunningham and Pondexter with Carroll and Lyles is fine, but doesn’t move the needle too much. This signing doesn’t hurt SA other than bending the knee to Klutch (IMO), but this team was and is a playoff team due to adding Murray/Lonnie/White improvement.

1. Clippers
2. Nuggets
3. Lakers
4. Blazers
5. Rockettes
6. Jazz
7. Warriors
8/9. Spurs/Kings
10/11/12. TPups/Mavs/Thunders

tbh we will be fighting all year to barely make it, if the talent at the top holds up. It will be a dogfight like the West hasn't seen in 10 years

[slick'81]

1. Clippers
2. Nuggets
3. Lakers
4. Blazers
5. Rockettes
6. Jazz
7. Warriors
8/9. Spurs/Kings
10/11/12. TPups/Mavs/Thunders

tbh we will be fighting all year to barely make it, if the talent at the top holds up. It will be a dogfight like the West hasn't seen in 10 years


Hopefully murray/white/walker take a leap and we can finally get out the 7/8th hole

[tonski17]

kyle anderson 2.0. just my opinion

[SAGirl]

Trey lyles will always be remembered for this game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y64OsZNYhp0

[gerald]

https://www.theringer.com/2016/8/25/16043504/trey-lyles-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-b3edb76c6ad9:

"Trey Lyles should be a household name. He was one of the best prospects in his high school class, taken in the lottery after only one season in college. Lyles is an archetypal modern power forward, with the size (6-foot-10, 234 pounds, with a 7-foot-2 wingspan) of a traditional big man and the offensive game of a perimeter player. His only real fault in college was being a part of a Kentucky recruiting class that included one of the best prospects of his generation in Karl-Anthony Towns, a player who occupied Lyles’s natural position at the 4 in their lone year in Lexington. It’s hard to stand out in college when the no. 1 overall pick is forcing you to play out of position and off the ball."

[playbonner15]

Hope his 'worst' season is behind him - can't get a shot in, can't pass, poor def. Imagine him being worse in SA :lol

[Mr. Body]

https://www.theringer.com/2016/8/25/16043504/trey-lyles-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-b3edb76c6ad9:

"Trey Lyles should be a household name. He was one of the best prospects in his high school class, taken in the lottery after only one season in college. Lyles is an archetypal modern power forward, with the size (6-foot-10, 234 pounds, with a 7-foot-2 wingspan) of a traditional big man and the offensive game of a perimeter player. His only real fault in college was being a part of a Kentucky recruiting class that included one of the best prospects of his generation in Karl-Anthony Towns, a player who occupied Lyles’s natural position at the 4 in their lone year in Lexington. It’s hard to stand out in college when the no. 1 overall pick is forcing you to play out of position and off the ball."

It's funny because KAT is another wildly overrated prospect who is also actively getting worse as he ages in the pros.

[JuneJive]

What's with all the hate for Kentucky players?

[jjktkk]

We can blame for the Carroll salary+ years increase and the Samanic reach. Brandon Clarke will haunt us for years to come, he was one of the surest picks in the draft and would’ve filled this problem we have with the PF position from day 1

Only a stupid fuck with a agenda on here would blame RC for Morris reneging on a contract and forcing the Spurs to scramble for a replacement.

[FireMicoHalili]

Random thoughts
1. Based off last year’s stats, this guy sucks
2. Scouting reports from college don’t do him any favors either
3. He’s been in two different situations with only one decent season
4. Doesn’t seem like a hard worker
5. Doesn’t look like he hits he gym regularly
6. Alarming his game, at best, reminds us of Diaw, with way less passing skill
7. Draftniks have been giving him the benefit of time for quite some time now

all signs point to him being a dud lmao. What makes this more unnerving is the fact JaMychal signed with the Clips AFTER it was reported Morris was headed to SA. Green would’ve been a solid signing and I would’ve preferred him over Lyles.

[TheGreatYacht]

Only a stupid fuck with a agenda on here would blame RC for Morris reneging on a contract and forcing the Spurs to scramble for a replacement.
Did you read the post you quoted you toothless cac? Morris wasn’t mentioned once. You love getting nutted on by me don’t you faggot

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/TreyLyles/status/1150123024722669575

And for those interested - his social media links:

https://www.instagram.com/treylyles/

https://twitter.com/TreyLyles

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/TreyLyles/status/1150123024722669575

And for those interested - his social media links:

https://www.instagram.com/treylyles/

https://twitter.com/TreyLyles

This dude already put 'apart' instead of 'a part.' Dudes already gone. :lol

[beirmeistr]

What other spurs have worn no. 41?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.


good. fuck utah.

[JuneJive]

This dude already put 'apart' instead of 'a part.' Dudes already gone. :lol

:lol

[Spurs Brazil]

What other spurs have worn no. 41?

Will Perdue
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/will-perdue-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-looks-on-against-the-sacramento-picture-id497871674?s=612x612

[ace3g]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/bvNGJLPqaLdMF_eu7ZKRQlKRPGY=/0x0:4555x3037/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:4555x3037)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/45563260/usa-today-8337816.0.jpg

[BWS-1994]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/bvNGJLPqaLdMF_eu7ZKRQlKRPGY=/0x0:4555x3037/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:4555x3037)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/45563260/usa-today-8337816.0.jpg

Who? Looks like Omar Epps...

[ace3g]

^
JaMychal Green

[Seventyniner]

^
JaMychal Green



Lyles took his jersey number and his salary slot. Savage.

[jjktkk]

Did you read the post you quoted you toothless cac? Morris wasn’t mentioned once. You love getting nutted on by me don’t you faggot


Oh brother this guy stinks. Went from the best offseason from RC in years to a typical shit one from him.

You know what I'm talking about you brain dead faggott.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA5CTdDNvDk

[cutewizard]

make him shoot the three, hahahaha

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAcPZMhAWyk

[ZeusWillJudge]

Does seem to like practices.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865697362/Former-Utah-Jazz-player-Trey-Lyles-rips-on-Utah-Quin-Snyders-practices.html

Quin Snyder used to coach Austin. He's a Spurs product.

I suspect he's like Kyle Anderson but with more speed and athleticism. He probably can do everything, but not one elite skill. At least Bertans had one elite skill (i.e. shoot the 3).



Great. Three hour practices are too much for him, and he put Utah on a "Worst Cities" list. Reminds me of the line from Animal House: "Fat, lazy, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." At least he's not fat.

[Marcus Bryant]

Fuck Utah, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAcPZMhAWyk

Lol. Someone gave a shit enough to film this. Someone gave a shit enough to watch this. Someone gave a shit enough to post this.

[cutewizard]

Hahaha

[cutewizard]

Someone gives a shit enough to watch the NBA

It is known

[TheGreatYacht]

You know what I'm talking about you brain dead faggott.
Was I wrong you inbred retard? Tell me what was great about this offseason. Go, pussy.

[John B]

Trey lyles will always be remembered for this game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y64OsZNYhp0
Kobe was having a Mamba moment. But in fairness to Lyles, he was there to close out. And for his size those were commendable fast feet. Better coaching by Spurs should improve his defense if he’s willing to put in the time. He has the skill set. And based on his twitter, he is excited to be a part of Spurs winning organization so hopefully he’s ready to work.

There was a reason why he was a lottery pick. It’s up to Spurs to highlight his talent. If hungry, he could bring more than Morris could ever dream of. Let’s go Lyles!

[RD2191]

Tbh this dude looks like a bonafide scrub.

[jjktkk]

Was I wrong you inbred retard? Tell me what was great about this offseason. Go, pussy.
Yeah you're wrong retard? Why in the fuck do you think I call your stupid ass out repeatedly on here? Because of your brilliant takes? :lol

[Spurtacular]

Tbh this dude looks like a bonafide scrub.

Did we get the Nuggets' Errors or something? I don't even remember him from the Spurs-Nuggets series, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah you're wrong retard? Why in the fuck do you think I call your stupid ass out repeatedly on here? Because of your brilliant takes? :lol
Couldn’t name one great thing Drunkford did this offseason :lmao

Just what I thought, pussy.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Now i know why this guy looks familiar. Dude almost got murdered by Lonnie.

https://youtu.be/70khKN4Dd3E

[John B]

Now i know why this guy looks familiar. Dude almost got murdered by Lonnie.

https://youtu.be/70khKN4Dd3E
:lmao Almost got immortalized by Lonnie

[K...]

Is it wortha thread to ask whether Simmons at $170 million is better than Lyle's at $5¿.

[exstatic]

What's with all the hate for Kentucky players?

They tank pretty often. UK is just a mill to get players from HS to the NBA, and they receive very little actual coaching. It shows. Notice that their players are slipping later into the first round these days. Gm's are catching on to the fact that there is a lot of work to do with these players.

[JuneJive]

Gotchu. It sure seems like some of their guys entering the NBA in recent history are kind of late bloomers.

[exstatic]

Gotchu. It sure seems like some of their guys entering the NBA in recent history are kind of late bloomers.

Unfortunately, it does no good to pile a ton of development effort into a player who will likely bloom on another team.

[Drom John]

Is it wortha thread to ask whether Simmons at $170 million is better than Lyle's at $5¿.

Five Thirty Eight

Ben Simmons 5-yr market value: $362.0m

Trey Lyles 5-yr market value: $40.7m
Most comparable player Kevin Loder 1983

[Mr. Body]

Gotchu. It sure seems like some of their guys entering the NBA in recent history are kind of late bloomers.

I would say they're often non-bloomers. Anthony Davis ain't much different than when he entered the league. KAT has actively declined and is a non-entity. Cousins is a big, fat, empty meal. Many of them do absolutely nothing but make money and run around. There are some exceptions.

[Mr. Body]

Gotchu. It sure seems like some of their guys entering the NBA in recent history are kind of late bloomers.

I would say they're often non-bloomers. Anthony Davis ain't much different than when he entered the league. KAT has actively declined and is a non-entity. Cousins is a big, fat, empty meal. Many of them do absolutely nothing but make money and run around. There are some exceptions.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1151636969912508417

[jermaine]

Keep sleeping on him Spurs fan. Keep sleeping. You'll will be dick riding after the RRT.

[Mr. Body]

Keep sleeping on him Spurs fan. Keep sleeping. You'll will be dick riding after the RRT.

Zzzzzzzzzz.

[Seventyniner]

:lmao Almost got immortalized by Lonnie

I wonder how much Lonnie is salivating over finishing the job in practice.

[slick'81]

Keep sleeping on him Spurs fan. Keep sleeping. You'll will be dick riding after the RRT.


Hes def got talent jermaine

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1151636969912508417

Tbh, Lyles resorting to fadeaways over Seth Curry is not exactly a good sign for his development.

[Mugen]

"Ay yo, it's been an hour. Let's shut it down!"

[KDKSpurs24]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1151636969912508417
Ugh, Wiggins? This must be the half speed workout crew.. (Well, Rivers seems like he probably works kinda hard to be fair). I'd like to see him in a gym working with someone like Montrezl Harrell. I just hope he really is improving though.

[timtonymanu]

"Ay yo, it's been an hour. Let's shut it down!"

Should fit in fine with Lamarcus who couldn’t finish a practice session with Timmy

[NickiRasgo]

He plays like Kyle Anderson.

[slick'81]

Yea seeing a 6'10 lyles going againt a pg&sg doesnt exactly impress

[Atl Spur]

Yea seeing a 6'10 lyles going againt a pg&sg doesnt exactly impress

Shooting is shooting; playing against smaller players working on foot speed/first step etc...is actually smart. I think you should hold off on being the message board villain on this one����

[XDT76]

Yea seeing a 6'10 lyles going againt a pg&sg doesnt exactly impress

Yeah it's not super impressive, but being able to shoot 3s and get by the guards at least shows that he can be useful in games.

[Pavlov]

He plays like Kyle Anderson.No, I actually saw him shoot the ball.

[Mr. Body]

Imagine him calling up Pop at the end of the summer and saying, "Yeah, I worked out this summer on my game."

And Pop saying, "With who?"

And Lyles says, "Andrew Wiggins."

[TDomination]

I'm gonna give this guy a chance before saying anything. Yeah his track record aint great but he's a spur now and will now be under our system which tends to make so so players good players.

[John B]

Tbh, Lyles resorting to fadeaways over Seth Curry is not exactly a good sign for his development.
That spin though and fade away shots. And this guy is faster and has quicker release than Slo Mo, come on :lol

[slick'81]

Shooting is shooting; playing against smaller players working on foot speed/first step etc...is actually smart. I think you should hold off on being the message board villain on this one����

ok message board hero :tu

[ceperez]

We got Lyles and lost Bertans. Let's just think of Caroll as a Cunningham replacement.

Compared to Bertans, I think he's a better overall basketball player. I would like to have kept Bertans, but Morris screwed that all up.

[NickiRasgo]

No, I actually saw him shoot the ball.

KA too, in Summer League.

[sasaint]

We got Lyles and lost Bertans. Let's just think of Caroll as a Cunningham replacement.

Compared to Bertans, I think he's a better overall basketball player. I would like to have kept Bertans, but Morris screwed that all up.

I pretty much agree. For me it kinda boils down to usage. Under Pop Davis’ usage was totally unpredictable, and then he got benched in the playoffs. I think Trey has the potential to become a more regular rotational piece. Whether he lives up to it remains to be seen. But it seems to me that in Pop’s mind Davis wasn’t going to.

[Drom John]

Lyles has been invited to the Canadian FIBA World Cup training camp (and Cory Joseph).

[Mr. Body]

Lyles has been invited to the Canadian FIBA World Cup training camp (and Cory Joseph).

Well, you can only give Drake so many minutes.

[ceperez]

I pretty much agree. For me it kinda boils down to usage. Under Pop Davis’ usage was totally unpredictable, and then he got benched in the playoffs. I think Trey has the potential to become a more regular rotational piece. Whether he lives up to it remains to be seen. But it seems to me that in Pop’s mind Davis wasn’t going to.

To be fair about Bertans, he was supposed to be traded for Morris. So it's not exactly a reflection of his lack of production in the playoffs. Against the Nuggets, he couldn't contain the guys like Plumlee or Milsap. Also, Pop wouldn't play him at the 3.

[RC_Drunkford]

while Bertans is the better shooter, Lyles is younger, cheaper and has a more diverse skillset. Wouldn't be a surprise if he performs better than Davis

[sasaint]

To be fair about Bertans, he was supposed to be traded for Morris. So it's not exactly a reflection of his lack of production in the playoffs. Against the Nuggets, he couldn't contain the guys like Plumlee or Milsap. Also, Pop wouldn't play him at the 3.

I wasn’t even thinking about the trade angle. It just seemed to me that Pop’s use of Davis indicated that he didn’t really envision Davis as much of a contributor going forward. I don’t think Pop ever regarded him highly enough to really find his niche and develop him in it. I think a shooter like Davis needed more continuity, and Pop would not commit regular rotation usage to him. Defensively he was a 3/4 tweener, and he never developed the consistent toughness to be good enough on the boards to gain regular minutes. In another system perhaps his shooting skill will overshadow his defensive/rebounding issues and he will get more regular use. Maybe he even gets more minutes at the 3. But none of that was going to happen under Pop, so I don’t mind gambling on a player like Lyles who might fit better. I wish Davis well, and I hope that Lyles outshines him.

[ceperez]

I wasn’t even thinking about the trade angle. It just seemed to me that Pop’s use of Davis indicated that he didn’t really envision Davis as much of a contributor going forward. I don’t think Pop ever regarded him highly enough to really find his niche and develop him in it. I think a shooter like Davis needed more continuity, and Pop would not commit regular rotation usage to him. Defensively he was a 3/4 tweener, and he never developed the consistent toughness to be good enough on the boards to gain regular minutes. In another system perhaps his shooting skill will overshadow his defensive/rebounding issues and he will get more regular use. Maybe he even gets more minutes at the 3. But none of that was going to happen under Pop, so I don’t mind gambling on a player like Lyles who might fit better. I wish Davis well, and I hope that Lyles outshines him.

Well, at least Spurs got more size with Lyles. Samanic isn't going to play much, but could be as good as Bertans come middle of the season. Meaning, a guy who just camps at the 3 point line and stretches the floor.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1158524488444776448

[BackHome]

To be fair about Bertans, he was supposed to be traded for Morris. So it's not exactly a reflection of his lack of production in the playoffs. Against the Nuggets, he couldn't contain the guys like Plumlee or Milsap. Also, Pop wouldn't play him at the 3.

Both him and Rudy Gay got destroyed by Milsap it was sad to watch them get abused.

[Trill Clinton]

NO7lWGbvV9s

[Mr. Body]

NO7lWGbvV9s

Trey Lyles, Devin Booker, Ben Simmons... Imagine playing with some of the laziest players in the league.

[Genovaswitness]

No bertans is addition by subtraction tbh

[John B]

NO7lWGbvV9s
He has nice shooting form, but he seems to be hanging behind the 3 too much. Definitely a stretch 4. We need his height though

[phxspurfan]

He has nice shooting form, but he seems to be hanging behind the 3 too much. Definitely a stretch 4. We need his height though

We had a stretch 4.

[KDKSpurs24]

I’ve watched a lot of the open runs from this group to check out Lyles and it just seems like he has no killer instinct of competitive fire. Yes I know it’s pickup but you can see that quality from Booker and Simmons.

[buujness]

I'm not a big fan of Trey Lyles. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to Lyles and Poeltl playing together early in the season. I could see some Horns sets leading to Lyles-Poeltl pick-and-roll action, which could be very dangerous.

[San Antonio Slayer]

Lyles is better on post plays, can create his own perimeter shot, a better rebounder. I am sure Bertans would dominate him in 3-point shooting contest. I've always had so high expectations about Bertans but he always looked too tense and "wooden" in everything but spot up 3-pointers and drive&kicks. Too bad. Fuck Morris.

[Frenchfred]

I’ve watched a lot of the open runs from this group to check out Lyles and it just seems like he has no killer instinct of competitive fire. Yes I know it’s pickup but you can see that quality from Booker and Simmons.

I agree, he looks like one of the most apathetic on the floor in this video. He won't play with Pop if he doesn't show any interest no matter how good he is

[ace3g]

B2xf4dGFcvH

[ismael-robert]

Man ace3g u can do better i went to his Twitter/ig n he has nice training photos n vids...not this apathetic im taking a crap position pic

[RD2191]

Forgot this bum was on the team. He starting or what?

[ismael-robert]

.

[SpurPadre]

Man ace3g u can do better i went to his Twitter/ig n he has nice training photos n vids...not this apathetic im taking a crap position pic

But that's what is most indicative of his game, tbh.

[phxspurfan]

:cry It still hurts :cry

Bye Davis, come back soon

https://media.giphy.com/media/VelWewgR6CpNK/giphy.gif

[Uriel]

Still not over Marcus Morris, ugh :td:td:td

[GusT15]

Man ace3g u can do better i went to his Twitter/ig n he has nice training photos n vids...not this apathetic im taking a crap position pic

You are missing the point.
Ace3g is using this pic with a deeper meaning.

Check the 5 banners in the backround.
Now check Lyles in Spurs colours.

This is a "We went from those...to this..."

:tu:ace

[Dverde]

I doubt it but Trey Lyles could be better long term

[Maddog]

I'm not sure even the Spurs are overly optimistic. 2nd year is not guaranteed. He was available, cheap and has some potential.
I'm bettin garbage time and off to elsewhere aft this season.
I hope I'm wrong

[sasaint]

I'm not sure even the Spurs are overly optimistic. 2nd year is not guaranteed. He was available, cheap and has some potential.
I'm bettin garbage time and off to elsewhere aft this season.
I hope I'm wrong

If you are right, that “elsewhere” will likely be China. I think this is Trey’s last chance in the NBA. It’s not like the Spurs has a lot of competition for his services. I am keeping my fingers crossed, hoping he seizes this opportunity with both hands and somehow thrives.

[SAGirl]

for those missing Davis... he looks to have a bigger role in the Wizards since their situation at small forward appears terrible atm. Have to be happy for him and wish him the best.

https://wizofawes.com/2019/09/26/the-washington-wizards-lack-of-sf-depth-is-a-problem/

ttps://www.bulletsforever.com/2019/9/20/20875339/september-mailbag-washington-wizards-davis-bertan-issac-bonga-moritz-wagner-thomas-bryant (https://www.bulletsforever.com/2019/9/20/20875339/september-mailbag-washington-wizards-davis-bertan-issac-bonga-moritz-wagner-thomas-bryant)

[John B]

for those missing Davis... he looks to have a bigger role in the Wizards since their situation at small forward appears terrible atm. Have to be happy for him and wish him the best.

https://wizofawes.com/2019/09/26/the-washington-wizards-lack-of-sf-depth-is-a-problem/

ttps://www.bulletsforever.com/2019/9/20/20875339/september-mailbag-washington-wizards-davis-bertan-issac-bonga-moritz-wagner-thomas-bryant (https://www.bulletsforever.com/2019/9/20/20875339/september-mailbag-washington-wizards-davis-bertan-issac-bonga-moritz-wagner-thomas-bryant)
Our defense would be so much worst without Davis. Oh well...

[RC_Drunkford]

Like I said he can be a nice reclamation project. Seems to me like his biggest strength is his high bball IQ. You know Pop loves high IQ players. He has great court awareness and does the little things on both ends. Here are some nice clips out of his Denver days


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTX1vY336hg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQpvjHcKkk

He seems to be the type of versatile player that PATFO wanted Kyle Anderson to be. He's faster than Kyle and a better defender, rebounder and post up player than Bertans on offense. His main issue is his shot, but he had 2 seasons where he shot over 38% from 3 on 128 and 218 attempts. I think Chip can definitley help him with that and by the way, he's only 23, turning 24 next month. I like him in the starting line up for now

[look_at_g_shred]

I did have flashbacks of bobo i'm not going to lie. He just seemed to always be in the right spot and not clog lanes. I wasn't expecting much from him, so what i was quite pleasing. No complaints here. Excited to see his growth in our system.

[ceperez]

Like I said he can be a nice reclamation project. Seems to me like his biggest strength is his high bball IQ. You know Pop loves high IQ players. He has great court awareness and does the little things on both ends. Here are some nice clips out of his Denver days


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTX1vY336hg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQpvjHcKkk

He seems to be the type of versatile player that PATFO wanted Kyle Anderson to be. He's faster than Kyle and a better defender, rebounder and post up player than Bertans on offense. His main issue is his shot, but he had 2 seasons where he shot over 38% from 3 on 128 and 218 attempts. I think Chip can definitley help him with that and by the way, he's only 23, turning 24 next month. I like him in the starting line up for now

:bobo

[Seventyniner]

I did have flashbacks of bobo i'm not going to lie. He just seemed to always be in the right spot and not clog lanes. I wasn't expecting much from him, so what i was quite pleasing. No complaints here. Excited to see his growth in our system.

Just what I was thinking. A low-usage facilitator who always seems to be in the right place at the right time fits the starting lineup like a glove. At least, if he's a decent enough shooter to not be completely ignored.

[NASpurs]

I talked shit about him but I'm beginning to do a 180. He's just been steady and solid for a couple of preseason games and the first game last night which is more than we can hope.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

He has looked solid the last few games. If he starts knocking down shots at a decent clip we might have gotten a nice pick up.

[Joseph Kony]

If he can just regain that 38% shooting from deep, he might actually be a solid player for us in the SL. impressed with his defense thus far

[Dennis the Menace]

Thinking it may have been better for White to have worked 24/7 with Chip in the summer rather than the Olympic charade

[spurraider21]

I did have flashbacks of bobo i'm not going to lie. He just seemed to always be in the right spot and not clog lanes. I wasn't expecting much from him, so what i was quite pleasing. No complaints here. Excited to see his growth in our system.
he reminded me of fat bobo on defense tbh

[Chinook]

I was meh on him, honestly. Him not being able to shoot is just such a huge drain on his value. He made sense in this game and competed hard sometimes, but he doesn't make me forget about the team's lack of a PF. I guess he and Carroll can exchange spots in the rotation depending on how big the opponent plays.

[RC_Drunkford]

I was meh on him, honestly. Him not being able to shoot is just such a huge drain on his value. He made sense in this game and competed hard sometimes, but he doesn't make me forget about the team's lack of a PF. I guess he and Carroll can exchange spots in the rotation depending on how big the opponent plays.

I'd still like to upgrade the position at the trade deadline, but Lyles is young so he has upside. He's also never been a regular starter, so maybe that will boost his confidence

[Dennis the Menace]

If you watched Derozan’s post game interview he described Lyles as “smooth” and “doesn’t get in people’s way”. I think that is very spot on.

He was the 12th ranked recruit in the nation. Drafted at #12 and only 23 years old. With the Spurs development program and developing his shot with Chip, there’s no telling how much more he can improve.

I think we we got a potential steal here especially if they develop him like DJ, White, Walker, Keldon, etc.

[jermaine]

If you look back at the beginning of this signing, I was on board an said I think he'll be great for this team.

[DAF86]

"Not Davis Bertans" :depressed

[timtonymanu]

He’ll have good and bad games but never understand the sudden comparison to Bobo. He wasn’t even close

[John B]

Trey Lyles looks good rebounding, 50/50 plays and can push the ball. He seems to know the plays remarkably well for being played Spurs system only a short period of time. Pop giving him skin after the game in approval of his hard work. I think he’s getting better every time and should soon find quality shots. He might just be the steal of the summer

[SAGirl]

Still not shooting well ... aptly naked thread.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Such a bizarre player. Completely different to the reputation he came with. Good effort, good rebounding, good ball handling, good passing. OK defense compared to others. Bad shooting and scoring. It's like they've found a different player and renamed him Trey Lyles.

[SAGirl]

^ He had a bad shooting season last year it’s possible the fluke was him shooting 38% from 3 two seasons ago and this is who he really is, but it’s early and I am hoping he catches fire sometime, but we’ll see.

[DAF86]

Make a fucking shot.

[Longlonglongtimelurk]

I feel like it’s a bad case of performance anxiety. If he can continue to rebound, hustle and play within the system then I imagine he will loosen up and they’ll start to fall. Would be nice to see him hit a couple to make defenses pay some attention to him, though.

[ceperez]

I feel like it’s a bad case of performance anxiety. If he can continue to rebound, hustle and play within the system then I imagine he will loosen up and they’ll start to fall. Would be nice to see him hit a couple to make defenses pay some attention to him, though.

I agree. He's new, it'll come naturally as the season makes progress.

[Raven]

so far he's really annoying me.

[CGD]

If he can hit a corner 3 reliably and keep up the rebounding, this will be a great reclamation project

[Dverde]

I’m going to start calling him “Yesterday’s bread”. We only have him because everything else good was sold out. You pick it up and tell yourself it looks fine on the outside. When you bite into your sandwich you realize it sucks and you should have went to another store and got fresh bread, but now you are stuck with yesterday’s bread.

[Mr. Body]

I'm impressed by his rebounding. He's actively hitting those spots and cleaning the boards. I don't think he was much of a shooter to begin with and don't expect much, but whenever you start a new job, your old skills can fall off as you learn new ones.

[daslicer]

Is Lyles the first spurs player since Rodman to get 10 are more rebounds and have 0 points?

[RC_Drunkford]

The most intriguing thing about Lyles is that he will turn 24 in a few days. He's young and has some upside to him. But him scoring 0 points is not a good sign. He has to be able to at least put up 8-10, that's not too much to ask from a starter

[Seventyniner]

The thread title is quite apt. Lyles is the anti-Bertans. He can do everything but score.

[Genovaswitness]

The thread title is quite apt. Lyles is the anti-Bertans. He can do everything but score.

Things that transfer to the post season

[John B]

I like it that he doesn’t push scoring. It will come naturally. I like to play with people who’ll play defense and rebound the ball, not try to complain about not scoring. He moves well. He has very high bball iq. He will get open.

[Chinook]

I just don't like him. I'm glad he's rebounding and moving the ball, but this isn't the "Beautiful Game" roster anymore where there are loads of finishers. The only finisher in the SL is Forbes right now. He might be more useful off the bench with Poeltl, Mills and Beli, since he and White can share the ball. Maybe Rudy's superior shooting would help the SL avoid the slow starts they've been off to recently. There seems to be things Lyles does better than Gay like rebounding and staying on quicker players. I just don't really think those things are more important than the near-complete lack of shooting.

[Big P]

If he can hit a corner 3 reliably and keep up the rebounding, this will be a great reclamation project


He can't even hit a chip shot, let alone a 3 pointer...rebounds are nice but we have enough problems scoring in a lot of games, with him out there, it's like we are playing 4 on 5.

[Gibbz]

He's 9th in Rebounding % among players who've played 100+ minutes. I thought it was encouraging when he called for the ball and shot a 3 with confidence last night even though it didn't go in. I think he'll be fine.

[CGD]

He can't even hit a chip shot, let alone a 3 pointer...rebounds are nice but we have enough problems scoring in a lot of games, with him out there, it's like we are playing 4 on 5.

Hoping it comes. In any event, I like taking a chance on a reclamation project whose really close to playing themselves out of the league. Feels like he’s aware of that given his play.

Another player I’d like for that is Bender. Sure most of that I’ll will flame out, but there’s a chance it clicks for one and that’s worth a gamble.

[GAustex]

Lyles seems like he is defending OK, rebounding well and meshing in.
More scoring would be nice. His promising start to me earns him time to find his offensive game.

[Truth4sale$]

Lyles knows this is basically his last shot in the nba. Nest stop is Europe. He is buying into what the spurs are saying because he finally has an opportunity to start and consistently play. Sometimes you need a hustle, energy player and he is providing the Spurs that which is lacking on this team. Still miss Bertans outside shooting.

[DJR210]

Next stop is China. .

FIFY

[ceperez]

He's 9th in Rebounding % among players who've played 100+ minutes. I thought it was encouraging when he called for the ball and shot a 3 with confidence last night even though it didn't go in. I think he'll be fine.

No hesitation. Not like Kyle Anderson.

[cd021]

No hesitation. Not like Kyle Anderson.
He's definitely hesitating on shots, he did against GSW. He has a fairly open looks, up fakes, drives and then passes. Kyle Anderson is actually a pretty good comparison but worse defensively and teams think he can shoot.

Hopefully he can start knocking down jumpers but i'm skeptical.

[ElNono]

He’s a great utilitarian player, tbh, I like him. Unlike Bertans which always looked like he had a higher ceiling but never quite delivered on that, you sorta know what you’re getting with this guy.

[XDT76]

The best value that the current Lyles bring is to give the Spurs an extra or 2 second chances and to allow LMA and DDR to exert abit lesser on rebounding which allows them to be a bit more effective in 4Q.

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop called him a good shooter and said he has to stop hesitating, so he must shoot it well in practice

[Mugen]

It's the same story as last year... 20-25 games before Pop (and the Seat Sniffers) realizes he sucks. We saw it last season with Dante and Pau tbh :lol

[stu scotts eye]

Just like I've been saying. Dude blows until he starts making 3s. If he wasnt out there getting rebounds, someone (multiple) people on the team would.

[kobyz]

He's basically a smaller softer Noah Vonleh, lol paying him that much while Minnesota sign Vonleh for the minimum...

[duncan2k5]

He would be better served coming off the bench alongside Poetl... And Rudy would be better off starting

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm pretty sure that Samanic will be a way better player than Trey Lyles is now next season

[DAF86]

At what point does it become a possibility to start Samanic over this non-threat?

[phxspurfan]

At what point does it become a possibility to start Samanic over this non-threat?

In two years when Samanic knows the system and Gets Over Himself (tm)

[John B]

He would be better served coming off the bench alongside Poetl... And Rudy would be better off starting
Gay wouldn’t have enough touches. Trey just needs to shoot when open. He’s a shooter and moves well. The ball will find him.

[FkLA]

Give it time, boys.

He'd be looking a lot better if just 26% (his career low) of his 3s were falling. If he gets closer to his career high of 38%, then watch out. If it's somewhere in between he'll be solid. Obviously, if he continues shooting 0% it's a problem but you can't pull the plug after 6 games. You have to give him a chance to regress to the mean. Especially since he's been surprisingly doing ok in other areas.

[timtonymanu]

He’s 3 of 4 from 3 in the last two games. Hopefully he will be hitting those more now. It’s the only way he will fit in the starting 5.

[FkLA]

Give it time, boys.

He'd be looking a lot better if just 26% (his career low) of his 3s were falling. If he gets closer to his career high of 38%, then watch out. If it's somewhere in between he'll be solid. Obviously, if he continues shooting 0% it's a problem but you can't pull the plug after 6 games. You have to give him a chance to regress to the mean. Especially since he's been surprisingly doing ok in other areas.

https://media.tenor.com/images/f203bbd60006dedaaef4c0fae63c7fdd/tenor.gif

[Harry Callahan]

Lyles looked like he was interested in competing tonight, unlike some of the other starters.

[John B]

Is this guy in a Demarre Carroll type doghouse? The guy didn’t even get in when everybody got pulled.

[daslicer]

Is this guy in a Demarre Carroll type doghouse? The guy didn’t even get in when everybody got pulled.

He's just garbage that's why he doesn't play often.

[John B]

The guy has total of 10 mins the last 4 games. He messed up or said something I think. Zero minutes against a much taller team.

[duncan2k5]

Why do we care? Lyle's is a POS