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phxspurfan
07-20-2019, 06:21 PM
Some Rocky shit

utz8EFGarEU

He went to surgery right after the fight, good thing they stopped the bleeding but dude will never fight again


https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27225273/dadashev-undergoes-brain-surgery-loss

FkLA
07-20-2019, 07:17 PM
Damn, the last few minutes of him struggling to stay on his feet were tough to watch. Best of luck to him.

Spurtacular
07-21-2019, 03:34 AM
Dude was clearly outmatched from the start. He should have been dancing around the ring more and looking to find his spots.

Spurtacular
07-21-2019, 03:58 AM
No thread on this fight?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWSMXMIm3k

phxspurfan
07-21-2019, 04:05 AM
No thread on this fight?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWSMXMIm3k

40 year old PacMan beats 30 year old up and comer lol

40 year old Mayweather shat all over Super Puncher McGregor

Making the current generation of fighters look like chumps

FrostKing
07-21-2019, 04:52 AM
I saw this. Props to his corner for recognizing it and calling the fight early

Spurtacular
07-21-2019, 05:05 AM
I saw this. Props to his corner for recognizing it and calling the fight early

From a medical standpoint, they recognized it about ten rounds too late, tbh. :lol

Mark Celibate
07-21-2019, 05:51 PM
sucks to see. honestly didn't look as bad as I thought it would when watching that last round in OP's video. He's clearly exhausted and out of gas, but to me it wasn't obvious something was wrong until you saw him stagger back to his corner unable to walk properly

Spurtacular
07-21-2019, 06:59 PM
sucks to see. honestly didn't look as bad as I thought it would when watching that last round in OP's video. He's clearly exhausted and out of gas, but to me it wasn't obvious something was wrong until you saw him stagger back to his corner unable to walk properly

Adrenaline propping him up. You could see at the start of the fight his opponent was getting in much harder hits. His corner clearly didn't have a good strategy. I mean, it can be tough to call a fight earlier for a guy's first loss though.

phxspurfan
07-21-2019, 08:24 PM
sucks to see. honestly didn't look as bad as I thought it would when watching that last round in OP's video. He's clearly exhausted and out of gas, but to me it wasn't obvious something was wrong until you saw him stagger back to his corner unable to walk properly

Yeah I didn't see it either even though he was taking huge body shots. There was one uppercut and a huge left hook he took upside his head about :10 where his left leg just twitched. You could tell he was fucked up by then bc he just slumped over on dude's shoulder. Then ofc he started vomiting 5min later. According to wikipedia the loss of coordination combined with the vomiting and not speaking was probably the first sign he was bleeding internally/had severe brain damage. Crazy how subtle it can be. Now he's in a coma and his wife will only see him Tuesday. Fucked up shit really considering how it all went down.

And yeah, the strategy was to run but then his trainer told him to go to the body/smother him in the mid rounds. Bad mistake, he shouldve just kept running. No way he would have won but at least he wouldn't have been beaten so badly.

Spurtacular
07-22-2019, 06:42 AM
https://www.mmamania.com/2019/7/21/20702898/update-boxer-maxim-dadashev-in-medically-induced-coma-following-bad-loss

DAF86
07-22-2019, 12:24 PM
No thread on this fight?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWSMXMIm3k

I forgot this shit went to a split decision. :lol

Manny has gotten his fare share of bullshit decisions going against him in recent years, tbh.

Spurtacular
07-22-2019, 12:28 PM
I forgot this shit went to a split decision. :lol

Manny has gotten his fare share of bullshit decisions going against him in recent years, tbh.

All his sh** goes to decisions. That midget ain't knocking out real contenders.

DAF86
07-22-2019, 12:35 PM
All his sh** goes to decisions. That midget ain't knocking out real contenders.

Unlike whom?

Darth_Pelican
07-23-2019, 11:02 AM
He just died. Damn

RIP

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27244105/boxer-dadashev-dies-friday-fight-injuries?sf216281992=1&fbclid=IwAR2rVKo7uaRFyjMBfXgPVpcVHL7mZR14b4esXQ99x tZRReUUR2zaCbaX3ek

RD2191
07-23-2019, 11:10 AM
Wow. Fucking terrible for his family. RIP Warrior.

DJR210
07-23-2019, 12:54 PM
Crazy. R.I.P

midnightpulp
07-23-2019, 12:59 PM
No one should die playing a sport. I wouldn't mind to see pro boxing institute headgear, even if it's perceived as "pussy." We understand biomechanics better than ever before and this means fighters of all weight classes will be punching harder than ever before. NFL players still get their brains rocked wearing a helmet. Now think what a boxer's brain goes through taking 100 blows to the head every bout.

Ghazi
07-23-2019, 02:17 PM
:(

Spurtacular
07-23-2019, 02:31 PM
Dude's corner let him down, tbh.

Spurtacular
07-23-2019, 02:32 PM
No one should die playing a sport. I wouldn't mind to see pro boxing institute headgear, even if it's perceived as "pussy." We understand biomechanics better than ever before and this means fighters of all weight classes will be punching harder than ever before. NFL players still get their brains rocked wearing a helmet. Now think what a boxer's brain goes through taking 100 blows to the head every bout.

You're probably right. A lot of money would be lost though. Not sure the boxers want that.

phxspurfan
07-23-2019, 02:47 PM
RIP, Mad Max, we all prayed for you, and it turned out it was not God's will. Perhaps you had a higher purpose of enlightening all of us still here.




Looks like some really sad combination of circumstances, tbh. He fell unconscious in the ambulance, so he was probably already going by then. They diverted to what people describe as a 2 star hospital and not an L1 trauma center. Hard to call that a mistake since it's the first responders' call, and they were driving on Friday night in likely horrible Washington DC traffic.
They likely chose not to go to another (better/L1 trauma) hospital, and, controversially, that may have also been a factor in whether he lived or died. We all know there's a big difference between medical facilities and quality of care.

But like Max Kellerman said in his interview about the topic, these situations are usually the most difficult to judge because it's typically a combination of 1. a hard, but not devastating puncher as the opponent, and 2. a strong fighter with a great chin who just becomes a little too heroic and doesn't want to quit.

I'd also add that it may be in part due to a weakened state due to losing/gaining all the weigh in weight, leading the fighter's immune system to be sweakened at fight time. I'm not an expert on fight science, but I've always cringed at fighters who have to lose a significant amount of weight to make weight, only to emergency hydrate and get back to full health right before the fight. It should be you weigh what you weigh at a random time before the fight, not 2 guys starving their bodies with diuretics and water, and then one guy ends up being much larger than the other at fight time (is it looked like with Mattias vs. Dadshev).

Also of note, he was fighting for his Green Card, in order to be able to bring his wife stateside. Also really sad was I'm not sure if he hung on long enough for his wife to make it to his bedside. She was slated to arrive Tues. morning, and the news that he was dying was announced by his manager Monday evening.

RD2191
07-23-2019, 02:50 PM
RIP, Mad Max, we all prayed for you, and it turned out it was not God's will. Perhaps you had a higher purpose of enlightening all of us still here.




Looks like some really sad combination of circumstances, tbh. He fell unconscious in the ambulance, so he was probably already going by then. They diverted to what people describe as a 2 star hospital and not an L1 trauma center. Hard to call that a mistake since it's the first responders' call, and they were driving on Friday night in likely horrible Washington DC traffic.
They likely chose not to go to another (better/L1 trauma) hospital, and, controversially, that may have also been a factor in whether he lived or died. We all know there's a big difference between medical facilities and quality of care.

But like Max Kellerman said in his interview about the topic, these situations are usually the most difficult to judge because it's typically a combination of 1. a hard, but not devastating puncher as the opponent, and 2. a strong fighter with a great chin who just becomes a little too heroic and doesn't want to quit.

I'd also add that it may be in part due to a weakened state due to losing/gaining all the weigh in weight, leading the fighter's immune system to be sweakened at fight time. I'm not an expert on fight science, but I've always cringed at fighters who have to lose a significant amount of weight to make weight, only to emergency hydrate and get back to full health right before the fight. It should be you weigh what you weigh at a random time before the fight, not 2 guys starving their bodies with diuretics and water, and then one guy ends up being much larger than the other at fight time (is it looked like with Mattias vs. Dadshev).

Also of note, he was fighting for his Green Card, in order to be able to bring his wife stateside. Also really sad was I'm not sure if he hung on long enough for his wife to make it to his bedside. She was slated to arrive Tues. morning, and the news that he was dying was announced by his manager Monday evening.

My first thought was that he was taken to a shitty hospital. Sucks for his family.

dylankerouac
07-23-2019, 04:28 PM
Didn’t watch the fight but this is tragic. Rest In Peace.

313
07-23-2019, 09:38 PM
No one should die playing a sport. I wouldn't mind to see pro boxing institute headgear, even if it's perceived as "pussy." We understand biomechanics better than ever before and this means fighters of all weight classes will be punching harder than ever before. NFL players still get their brains rocked wearing a helmet. Now think what a boxer's brain goes through taking 100 blows to the head every bout.Should be the standard, but you know profits take priority like you said.

hater
07-23-2019, 09:52 PM
RIP, Mad Max, we all prayed for you, and it turned out it was not God's will. Perhaps you had a higher purpose of enlightening all of us still here.




Looks like some really sad combination of circumstances, tbh. He fell unconscious in the ambulance, so he was probably already going by then. They diverted to what people describe as a 2 star hospital and not an L1 trauma center. Hard to call that a mistake since it's the first responders' call, and they were driving on Friday night in likely horrible Washington DC traffic.
They likely chose not to go to another (better/L1 trauma) hospital, and, controversially, that may have also been a factor in whether he lived or died. We all know there's a big difference between medical facilities and quality of care.

But like Max Kellerman said in his interview about the topic, these situations are usually the most difficult to judge because it's typically a combination of 1. a hard, but not devastating puncher as the opponent, and 2. a strong fighter with a great chin who just becomes a little too heroic and doesn't want to quit.

I'd also add that it may be in part due to a weakened state due to losing/gaining all the weigh in weight, leading the fighter's immune system to be sweakened at fight time. I'm not an expert on fight science, but I've always cringed at fighters who have to lose a significant amount of weight to make weight, only to emergency hydrate and get back to full health right before the fight. It should be you weigh what you weigh at a random time before the fight, not 2 guys starving their bodies with diuretics and water, and then one guy ends up being much larger than the other at fight time (is it looked like with Mattias vs. Dadshev).

Also of note, he was fighting for his Green Card, in order to be able to bring his wife stateside. Also really sad was I'm not sure if he hung on long enough for his wife to make it to his bedside. She was slated to arrive Tues. morning, and the news that he was dying was announced by his manager Monday evening.

That's fucked up. Was he fighting at the MGM? That's actually in Maryland and there's a fucking great hospital across the Potomac in Virginia. Fairfax Hospital. Only 15 min away.

Fuck that MGM. They couldn't even afford a fucking helicopter ride?

I been to that MGM a couple months ago and it's a shit hole. Full of hood nigas, it's actually in the middle of the hood and they charge abou $25 a drink in the casino!

Plus that place is cursed imo. A little girl got electrocuted there and died last year and now this.

Fuck that cursed place

phxspurfan
07-23-2019, 10:04 PM
That's fucked up. Was he fighting at the MGM? That's actually in Maryland and there's a fucking great hospital across the Potomac in Virginia. Fairfax Hospital. Only 15 min away.

Fuck that MGM. They couldn't even afford a fucking helicopter ride?

I been to that MGM a couple months ago and it's a shit hole. Full of hood nigas, it's actually in the middle of the hood and they charge abou $25 a drink in the casino!

Plus that place is cursed imo. A little girl got electrocuted there and died last year and now this.

Fuck that cursed place

It sure as hell was at the MGM. You’re right, they cheaped out by not getting a helicopter to one of the many proper L1 centers in the area.

hater
07-23-2019, 10:11 PM
Holy shit :wow

Almost exactly a year ago :wow

Zynae Green was 6 years old when, while with her family at the MGM National Harbor resort and casino on June 26, she grabbed a "dangerously electrified" staircase railing as she and her siblings made their way down to a large outdoor fountain, according to a complaint filed Monday by the family's lawyers.

Zynae went into cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated before being transported to a hospital. She suffered "severe and permanent neurological injuries," the complaint said.

I guess she didn't die but is a vegetable

gambit1990
07-23-2019, 11:09 PM
boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand :lol

phxspurfan
07-23-2019, 11:58 PM
The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the circumstances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight title ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

DAF86
07-24-2019, 02:21 AM
The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the circumstances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight title ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

:huh

DJR210
07-24-2019, 03:40 AM
boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand :lol

Truth.. Max Kellerman called it a "guilty pleasure"

Spurtacular
07-24-2019, 04:28 AM
Truth.. Max Kellerman called it a "guilty pleasure"

The boxers, past and present could easily strive for change to headgear. They don't b/c they don't want to make one fifth of the money. Dadashev's corner needed to be smarter and call that way fucking sooner. They also could've instructed him to dance way more instead of trying to match a guy hitting much harder punch for punch if they wanted to save some face and take it into a later round before throwing the towel. It was amateur hour. His corner deserves way more criticism. I actually give credit to Dadashev for being a warrior otherwise and getting as far as he did against the odds.

Spurtacular
07-24-2019, 10:37 AM
When did you become aware that the unverified Christopher Steel dossier was used in attaining the FISA application? (And related questions)

Grandpa Bob shuts down. What a fucking joke.

RD2191
07-24-2019, 03:33 PM
The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the circumstances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight title ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

:lol If Russia wasn't such a shit hole country then maybe Dadashev wouldn't have to of died trying to get his family into the United States.

koriwhat
07-24-2019, 03:45 PM
No one should die playing a sport. I wouldn't mind to see pro boxing institute headgear, even if it's perceived as "pussy." We understand biomechanics better than ever before and this means fighters of all weight classes will be punching harder than ever before. NFL players still get their brains rocked wearing a helmet. Now think what a boxer's brain goes through taking 100 blows to the head every bout.

i used to love the full headgear with mouth guard during sparring sessions but i don't think it's adequate during competition. you got a bit of blind spots with it, pressure on the face and head, as well as making it harder to breathe. i never did competitions though but sparring was hard enough with that gear on even though i liked having it on.

Mitch
07-25-2019, 11:51 AM
boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand :lol

Point is to score points, tbh. The tko exists to prevent it fr getting to that point where a boxer will get KOd or seriously injured. A ref should have stopped the fight upon seeing the clear disparity in skill and the damage he was taking.

The Gemini Method
07-25-2019, 12:02 PM
I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.

SpursforSix
07-25-2019, 12:08 PM
I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/yeah-about-that-5aa4a9.jpg

i'm_still_beta
07-25-2019, 12:12 PM
I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.
Unfortunately, he died

phxspurfan
07-25-2019, 01:56 PM
Unfortunately, he died


https://media.makeameme.org/created/yeah-about-that-5aa4a9.jpg

savage...



But yeah he's in heaven, chugging God's best vodkas rn. Unfortunately the sport will definitely suffer, as Russia will demand we treat fighters better with all the mistakes made on this one. Maybe it will become safer, who knows

weebo
07-25-2019, 07:35 PM
This is on his corner and the ref...sometimes boxers need to be saved from themselves

FkLA
07-25-2019, 08:43 PM
Another boxer died. Hugo Santillan, Argie, 23 years old.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/argentine-boxer-becomes-second-to-die-in-last-week-from-injuries-suffered-in-ring

Spurtacular
07-25-2019, 09:20 PM
Point is to score points, tbh. The tko exists to prevent it fr getting to that point where a boxer will get KOd or seriously injured. A ref should have stopped the fight upon seeing the clear disparity in skill and the damage he was taking.

Agree. But I don't think judges routinely apply that standard. The standard seems to be if someone's about to black out.

Spurtacular
07-25-2019, 09:26 PM
Another boxer died. Hugo Santillan, Argie, 23 years old.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/argentine-boxer-becomes-second-to-die-in-last-week-from-injuries-suffered-in-ring

At least he won the fight.

Mark Celibate
07-25-2019, 10:42 PM
At least he won the fight.

yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

Spurtacular
07-25-2019, 10:43 PM
yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

Well, who wants to go out a loser?

Spurtacular
07-25-2019, 10:44 PM
savage...



But yeah he's in heaven, chugging God's best vodkas rn. Unfortunately the sport will definitely suffer, as Russia will demand we treat fighters better with all the mistakes made on this one. Maybe it will become safer, who knows

They have Russian Heaven? Not sure I'd want to go if vodka is what's on tap.

apalisoc_9
07-25-2019, 11:54 PM
yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

:lmao

RGMCSE
07-26-2019, 09:32 PM
This is on his corner and the ref...sometimes boxers need to be saved from themselves


Normaly I would agree but after watching the fight I just came away thinking the guys got heart and kept fighting. It wasn’t so obvious that the poor man would pass. But damn the other boxer basically put on an offensive clinic.

phxspurfan
07-26-2019, 09:58 PM
Normaly I would agree but after watching the fight I just came away thinking the guys got heart and kept fighting. It wasn’t so obvious that the poor man would pass. But damn the other boxer basically put on an offensive clinic.

The other boxer is a real fighter. Poor kid from a real ghetto (not LA or NY lol), did time, would shadow box in his cell. Dadashev was a skinny chess playing kid who tried to be a real fighter and got outmatched in a serious way. No way he would have ever been in this fight with Mattias. They need to tell certain boxers who have no business being fighters to stop before they really get hurt like this. It’s like the Canelo-Cesar Chavez Jr fight was. Kid had no chance.

Spurtacular
07-26-2019, 10:12 PM
The other boxer is a real fighter. Poor kid from a real ghetto (not LA or NY lol), did time, would shadow box in his cell. Dadashev was a skinny chess playing kid who tried to be a real fighter and got outmatched in a serious way. No way he would have ever been in this fight with Mattias. They need to tell certain boxers who have no business being fighters to stop before they really get hurt like this. It’s like the Canelo-Cesar Chavez Jr fight was. Kid had no chance.

Not sure that's a fair characterization. But I do question that these fighters were both really in the same weight class. Matias looks like he has 20-25 pounds on Dadashev.

From what I've seen, the problem is that there was no seminal moment that made it easy for the ref to stop the fight. It was just a cumulative build-up round after round.

Spurtacular
07-26-2019, 10:13 PM
"I'd rather him be mad at me for a day or two than for him to be mad at me for the rest of his life."

That quote didn't age well.

weebo
07-27-2019, 09:00 AM
Normaly I would agree but after watching the fight I just came away thinking the guys got heart and kept fighting. It wasn’t so obvious that the poor man would pass. But damn the other boxer basically put on an offensive clinic.

Battered, disoriented, etc....you can't leave that decision to the boxer...these guys are competitors

The Gemini Method
07-31-2019, 02:16 PM
Unfortunately, he died
Yeah, that's unfortunate. R.I.P

RGMCSE
07-31-2019, 03:02 PM
Battered, disoriented, etc....you can't leave that decision to the boxer...these guys are competitors

Ive seen many fights where the boxer is disoriented and has a good chin to no fault of his own and still fight back. Just as this fighter did. He just kept fighting and that’s the thing that sticks out is that he kept fighting. It’s probably what ultimalety got him killed. Plus he was fighting for his family to join him in the US so his brain just wasn’t going to quit. I wonder if there wasn’t so much at stake for the fighter other than pride would he have kept fighting that way?