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Millennial_Messiah

07-25-2019, 08:29 PM

For residents like Mitch , Will Hunting , monosylab1k / mono , Boston Pancake , Mark Celibate etc. to discuss week to week about how receiver X sucks, McCourty twin X is washed up, the sky is falling because it's December and we're only 11-3 and 2nd place in the AFC , etc.

My official prediction for 2019 is, 12-4 and another first round bye. 5-1 in the division. Bad division. 2nd place in the division gets 5 wins.

Looks like the Pats and Bill Belichick are at it again:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27259041/patriots-switch-etling-qb-receiver-role

Similar beginnings to Julian Edelman, but in Etling's case he is a 6'3" 220 dude, so potentially an outside receiver who can maybe ultimately play some slot, hybrid tight end if necessary. I don't doubt Belichick at all for making this guy into a lowkey star in time.

:toast

Mitch

07-25-2019, 08:58 PM

Don't ping me, Andy ya pig fucker :lol

Millennial_Messiah

07-25-2019, 09:37 PM

I’m happy as hell that they peaked at the right time last season, but I think their regular season performance is more indicative of where this Patriots run is headed. Nkeal Harry will be a nice addition, but losing Gronk really hurts the run game. I’m expecting 11-5 or 10-6 this year, with Brady continuing to incrementally decline but not fall off the cliff. Probably making another AFC title game but this might actually be the last one. If Josh Gordon gets reinstated then all bets are off.

I just don't get why? Their schedule is easier than the last 2 years. Unlike the last 2 years they don't have any particularly hard AFC road games... at all. You can argue Baltimore which they might lose but it's not a given they'll be very good with a gimmick at QB. (Then again, the Pats lost to Bortles and Mariota last year so anything is possible.) They probably lose at Philly, too. But all the other playoff contender opponents (Browns, Chiefs, Cowboys & [arguably] Steelers)... are at home for the Patriots. The rest of their opponents (Bengals, Redskins, Giants, Texans, and of course the division games) should be fairly easy victories. You could argue they lose 1 of those, say a clunker Week 2 in Miami, but no more than that.

Mark Celibate

07-25-2019, 10:18 PM

:lol why am I quoted in the OP? I hardly ever talk about New England

Millennial_Messiah

07-25-2019, 10:33 PM

:lol why am I quoted in the OP? I hardly ever talk about New England

I've seen you with a NE skin before

I always thought you were Mono. Are you BUMP instead?

spurraider21

07-25-2019, 11:00 PM

AFC E is still a steaming pile of shit so they'll coast their way to another division crown

lack of gronk is going to be a huge deal tbh... i think 10-6 or 11-5 (just by virtue of having so many easy divisional matchups) and a loss in the first or second round sounds right

Sir Johnny

07-26-2019, 12:49 AM

Belichick/Brady.............that is the best coach/QB combo ever, until that changes the Pats will be in the mix.

We had a great combo...Walsh/Montana, and look what we did.

Noll/Bradshaw
Lombardi/Starr
Brown/Otto......in the old AAFC

It all starts right there.

Millennial_Messiah

07-26-2019, 11:11 PM

Official 2019 Game-to-Game Prediction - NE

vs PIT W - Banner ceremony, possibly Brady's last, against the weakest Steelers team since 2013. No-brainer here.
@ MIA L - Tom Brady, Florida, and September have always been a dreadful combination. Early Season Fitzmagic strikes yet again.
vs NYJ W - Le'Veon Bell returns to Gillette Stadium, where he has never played well for his career. Comfort win for the Pats.
@ BUF W - Bill Belichick/Tom Brady's utter domination and ownership of the Buffalo franchise continues.
@ WAS W - Simply a mismatch. The Skins' D-Line will hurt Brady a few times, but that secondary won't hold up their end for long.
vs NYG W - Eli's final matchup against the team he is famous for vanquishing doesn't end well for the spiraling Giants. Dan Jones time?
@ NYJ W - Pats pull off a relatively close road win this time. Upstart Jets play them tough at home.
vs CLE W - At home, but closer than one might expect. Browns give them a big run for their money, but the Pats score a clutch win.
@ BAL L - Belichick gets questioned after getting beat by a running QB over and over again. Ravens' D gives Brady a relative off night.
@ PHI L - Patriots' secondary is very good, but they have an off game against the brutal passing attack of the Flyin' Eagles.
vs DAL L - At this point, the sky is falling in New England. Three losses in a row, are you kidding me? When has this ever happened?
@ HOU W - After a shaky first half fuels the media fire (is Brady finally done?), the Pats then dominate and win handily. Order restored.
vs KC W - Huge, clutch win against the #1 team and offense in the AFC, similar to last year and in 2013. Really helps to be at home.
@ CIN W - Cincinnati at this point is a disaster and likely trying out other QBs in preparation for the end of the mundane Dalton era.
vs BUF W - Playoff push, and they own the Bills. They win, but are eliminated from the #1 seed on the same day.
vs MIA W - Possibly a meaningless victory, but they won't lose at home to the Dolphins who are playing to lose for draft position.

Final Regular Season Record: 12-4
AFC East Place: 1st
AFC Ranking/Seed: 2

spurraider21

08-18-2019, 04:52 PM

Super legit #1 WR dontrelle inman cut

Spurtacular

08-18-2019, 07:30 PM

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Not including the residents, :lol at all those frontrunners.

Monostradamus

08-22-2019, 11:54 AM

:lol also, half of those are me

Monostradamus

08-22-2019, 11:56 AM

And my nigga Pat Chung busted for cocaine

chunticakes

08-22-2019, 11:58 AM

Super legit #1 WR dontrelle inman cut

Another one of Andy's great takes.

Will Hunting

08-22-2019, 03:55 PM

Super legit #1 WR dontrelle inman cut
Good thing he gave it the usual Andy caveat with some irrational argument I’m forgetting the specifics of but I know it basically was if he gets cut it doesn’t mean Andy was wrong.

Millennial_Messiah

08-22-2019, 04:29 PM

Good thing he gave it the usual Andy caveat with some irrational argument I’m forgetting the specifics of but I know it basically was if he gets cut it doesn’t mean Andy was wrong.

Chargers will use him well. Tyrell Williams will be replaced more than adequately.

Millennial_Messiah

08-22-2019, 04:30 PM

And my nigga Pat Chung busted for cocaine

Don't they still have that freak 6'5" 4.4 speed guy on the team? Henry "Obi" Melifonwu or something like that? Basically Calvin Megatron but on defense? He was a 2nd round pick and touted as the next and more athletic Kam Chancellor, tbh. Perfect Belichick project; if they can get him up to speed, Chung will be quickly forgotten.

Trill Clinton

08-22-2019, 06:08 PM

https://i.imgur.com/7PGgU4r.gif

Millennial_Messiah

08-26-2019, 06:49 PM

One thing some Pats fans on here were wrong about... Mike Pennel:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/patriots-to-release-dt-mike-pennell-in-unexpected-move/ar-AAGlPdW?ocid=spartanntp

Millennial_Messiah

08-26-2019, 07:01 PM

Devastating news. This young man's career is in jeopardy and he hasn't made it to his big (second) contract yet. Think Chris Bosh. And this one actually might seriously hurt the Patriots on the football field, this time:

https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2019/08/patriots-c-david-andrews-expected-to-miss-significant-time-due-to-blood-clots-in-lungs-report.html

Will Hunting

08-26-2019, 09:11 PM

Mark Celibate

08-26-2019, 11:36 PM

Don't they still have that freak 6'5" 4.4 speed guy on the team? Henry "Obi" Melifonwu or something like that? Basically Calvin Megatron but on defense? He was a 2nd round pick and touted as the next and more athletic Kam Chancellor, tbh. Perfect Belichick project; if they can get him up to speed, Chung will be quickly forgotten.

never heard of the guy but now that you jinxed him, I imagine he'll finish with like 5 tackles this season

anyway, you actually bring up a good point with the schedule. I see another 12-4 season IMO. There's only six games that I think they even have a chance at losing. Mia (just because of history IMO), @BAL, @PHI, DAL, @HOU, and KC. Since it's New England, no way they don't win atleast two of those. Any other loss on the schedule is a huge upset

Millennial_Messiah

08-27-2019, 01:48 AM

I think Danny Shelton must have looked really good for them to cut Pennel.

If Andrews is done for the season that’s a game changer. Shaq Mason is their best lineman but he’s probably their most important lineman.

Shaq Mason is their best run blocker but not pass protector... Cannon is (one of the biggest OL contract discounts in today's NFL imo), followed by Andrews and Thuney. Pretty amazing how they've just plugged LTs in now for awhile like running backs with pretty good success. LT and C are both big question marks now, but at this point who doesn't have faith in Coach Dante to make it work again?

Millennial_Messiah

08-27-2019, 01:58 AM

never heard of the guy but now that you jinxed him, I imagine he'll finish with like 5 tackles this season

anyway, you actually bring up a good point with the schedule. I see another 12-4 season IMO. There's only six games that I think they even have a chance at losing. Mia (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=48241) (just because of history IMO), @BAL, @PHI, DAL, @HOU, and KC. Since it's New England, no way they don't win atleast two of those. Any other loss on the schedule is a huge upset
They will lose @ MIA because it's Week 2, Brian Flores' revenge game, it's at Miami, and Brady doesn't take hot and humid weather well (1-12 career in Florida in the month of September). Also, early season Fitzmagic is always a thing. Everything points to a loss there. I'd honestly be shocked if the Pats actually won that game.

@BAL could go either way, and Belichick has a way at handling gimmick QBs, but BAL has the best secondary 1-6 in the entire NFL and it isn't even really close. They'll likely go around 8-8, but that's a home game for the Ravens.

Patriots have lost at least 1 to the NFC every year except their perfect regular season, so I suspect they'll lose either one or both of the Philly/Dallas games. Especially Philly at Philly, I'd give the Eagles a 75-25 shot. Dallas at home could go either way, 50-50, obviously if there's no Zeke that's a different story.

@NYJ is one that could be closer than you'd think, but you have to like the Pats to pull it out in the end, though it's not a guarantee-

@HOU - HOU is one of those teams that people overrate for no good reason every single year. Very top heavy team, and the Patriots have downright OWNED them over the years, regular season and playoffs. Bad OL and secondary, flaws that play right into the hands of both Belichick and Brady. I don't see them losing that one.

KC - yes that could go either way, but I'd give the Pats a slight upper hand because they're at home and it's later in the year.

So 12-4 it is.

Millennial_Messiah

09-01-2019, 12:36 AM

Patriots got experienced center Russell Bovine for a late 6th round pick. Steal. Also looks like DeMaryius Thomas has officially gone the way of classmate Dez Bryant in similar fashion, and his playing days might be over.

Will Hunting

09-01-2019, 09:25 AM

Shaq Mason is their best run blocker but not pass protector... Cannon is (one of the biggest OL contract discounts in today's NFL imo), followed by Andrews and Thuney. Pretty amazing how they've just plugged LTs in now for awhile like running backs with pretty good success. LT and C are both big question marks now, but at this point who doesn't have faith in Coach Dante to make it work again?
What the fuck do you mean they’ve just “plugged left tackles for awhile”? Prior to last year, they had gone over 15 years with either Matt Light or Nate Solder as their starting left tackle. It had been a position where they had great continuity.

Either way though, left tackle isn’t their problem, losing Andrews is. Brady has always been able to overcome inconsistent left tackle play outside of when Von Miller was unstoppable. The middle part of his career when he didn’t win any super bowls was filled with patchwork starters at RG/C who allowed a-gap pressure at the wrong time, not to mention a left guard (Mankins) who played great in the regular season but regularly shat the bed in the playoffs.

Will Hunting

09-01-2019, 09:29 AM

They will lose @ MIA because it's Week 2, Brian Flores' revenge game, it's at Miami, and Brady doesn't take hot and humid weather well (1-12 career in Florida in the month of September). Also, early season Fitzmagic is always a thing. Everything points to a loss there. I'd honestly be shocked if the Pats actually won that game.

@BAL could go either way, and Belichick has a way at handling gimmick QBs, but BAL has the best secondary 1-6 in the entire NFL and it isn't even really close. They'll likely go around 8-8, but that's a home game for the Ravens.

Patriots have lost at least 1 to the NFC every year except their perfect regular season, so I suspect they'll lose either one or both of the Philly/Dallas games. Especially Philly at Philly, I'd give the Eagles a 75-25 shot. Dallas at home could go either way, 50-50, obviously if there's no Zeke that's a different story.

@NYJ is one that could be closer than you'd think, but you have to like the Pats to pull it out in the end, though it's not a guarantee-

@HOU - HOU is one of those teams that people overrate for no good reason every single year. Very top heavy team, and the Patriots have downright OWNED them over the years, regular season and playoffs. Bad OL and secondary, flaws that play right into the hands of both Belichick and Brady. I don't see them losing that one.

KC - yes that could go either way, but I'd give the Pats a slight upper hand because they're at home and it's later in the year.

So 12-4 it is.
I actually agree with this. Last year they lost games to 5 non-playoff teams and that trend will continue to some extent this year. Over a 16 game season a 42-year old QB is going to have at least a few shitty performances, likely on the road (ie their game against the Titans last year).

Only way they don’t lose at Miami week 2 is if Miami is in complete rebuild mode and doesn’t even try to win this year.

spurraider21

09-01-2019, 11:06 AM

I actually agree with this. Last year they lost games to 5 non-playoff teams and that trend will continue to some extent this year. Over a 16 game season a 42-year old QB is going to have at least a few shitty performances, likely on the road (ie their game against the Titans last year).

Only way they don’t lose at Miami week 2 is if Miami is in complete rebuild mode and doesn’t even try to win this year.
:lmao “if”

Raven

09-01-2019, 11:38 AM

really disappointed by thomas getting cut.. i hope they bring him back

Millennial_Messiah

09-01-2019, 01:32 PM

:lmao “if”

I could still seeing them winning their first 2 at home, beating the Ravens and Patriots on the arm of Early Season Fitzmagic and some clutch interceptions from their surprisingly-still-good secondary guided by Flores (don't forget Xavien Howard, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Reshad Jones are still on the team). Then they will fall off the earth pretty quickly and finish 3-13 or 4-12. Sort of like Tampa last year.

Will Hunting

09-01-2019, 04:03 PM

:lmao “if”
I know they’re always in rebuild mode but they’ve usually been in denial about it :lol.

The fact they’re starting Fitzmagic over Rosen tells me they might revert back to trying to eek out 6-8 wins again rather than going all out investing in a rebuild.

Millennial_Messiah

09-01-2019, 05:07 PM

I know they’re always in rebuild mode but they’ve usually been in denial about it :lol.

The fact they’re starting Fitzmagic over Rosen tells me they might revert back to trying to eek out 6-8 wins again rather than going all out investing in a rebuild.

Fitzpatrick at least brings life. The Bucs had the #1 ranked passing offense in the NFL last year (not joking; their defense was atrocious), largely thanks to him. Rosen on the other hand is a pocket statue, good for at least 3-4 sack fumbles a game.

Millennial_Messiah

09-07-2019, 04:44 PM

Antonio Brown, Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman, DeMaryius Thomas. WOW. Now I think they go 15-1.

spurraider21

09-07-2019, 04:46 PM

now i have brown/gordon/brady on my fantasy team :lol

i'm_still_beta

09-07-2019, 04:49 PM

Damn

Chris

09-07-2019, 04:52 PM

We need some cosmic justice here this shit ain't right

Kim Jong-il

09-07-2019, 04:55 PM

We need some cosmic justice here this shit ain't right
This IS the cosmic justice for the fake news bullshit DeflateGate smear job.

But if it’s any solace, historically, all-time great offenses usually don’t win the Super Bowl.

Millennial_Messiah

09-07-2019, 05:01 PM

now i have brown/gordon/brady on my fantasy team :lol

Brown against the steelers week 1, :lol welp it says he's not eligible so oh well

Millennial_Messiah

09-07-2019, 05:02 PM

This IS the cosmic justice for the fake news bullshit DeflateGate smear job.

But if it’s any solace, historically, all-time great offenses usually don’t win the Super Bowl.

They also have a hell of a secondary and their LB's ain't bad either.

Canyonero

09-07-2019, 05:36 PM

If BB planned this since AB asked to be traded then he deserves to be inducted into the HoF before tomorrow´s kickoff.

spurraider21

09-07-2019, 05:43 PM

Antonio Brown, Josh Gordon, Julian Edelman, DeMaryius Thomas. WOW. Now I think they go 15-1.
i mean he's no inman but he will have to do

chunticakes

09-07-2019, 06:22 PM

i mean he's no inman but he will have to do

:lol

Raven

09-07-2019, 06:31 PM

Millennial_Messiah

09-07-2019, 10:06 PM

:lmao

i fucking called it

On a serious note, for what was projected as an awful receiving corp only a couple months ago, the page has really flipped fast.. Worried they will have to free some cap space though which may mean Thomas getting cut, hopefully no.
If you have 4 former All Pro's, why cut one of them? Cut bait with someone else, they can cut bait with Bennett, Mason, or some combination of White or Burkhead + Chung, make the safety McCourty take a paycut because he's 32.

Bennett is my obvious choice, he'll be 34 this season and is due for falling off... Eagles let him go for a reason.

spurraider21

09-08-2019, 12:08 AM

If you have 4 former All Pro's, why cut one of them? Cut bait with someone else, they can cut bait with Bennett, Mason, or some combination of White or Burkhead + Chung, make the safety McCourty take a paycut because he's 32.

Bennett is my obvious choice, he'll be 34 this season and is due for falling off... Eagles let him go for a reason.
because you only need so many WRs. why sacrifice depth at DE so you can have a 4th wide receiver?

Millennial_Messiah

09-08-2019, 12:35 AM

because you only need so many WRs. why sacrifice depth at DE so you can have a 4th wide receiver?

in part because they don't have a TE. Why not spread the field with Gordon - Edelman - OLine - Brown - Thomas and the promising young bell cow in the backfield Michel? The TE doesn't need to see the field that way.

Will Hunting

09-08-2019, 08:11 AM

This IS the cosmic justice for the fake news bullshit DeflateGate smear job.

But if it’s any solace, historically, all-time great offenses usually don’t win the Super Bowl.
The one concern I have is that Belichick was so eager to throw a $15mm deal at this guy so quickly. I don’t see him doing that unless there’s a big concern he’s trying to address, but with Gordon cleared to play I don’t see how that’s the case. On paper this is the most stacked receiver group Brady has ever had, by far. The Moss/Welker teams had fuck all in terms of depth, while this group has three great options right off the bat and possibly two more depending on Demaryius Thomas and Harry.

Raven

09-08-2019, 11:21 AM

If you have 4 former All Pro's, why cut one of them? Cut bait with someone else, they can cut bait with Bennett, Mason, or some combination of White or Burkhead + Chung, make the safety McCourty take a paycut because he's 32.

Bennett is my obvious choice, he'll be 34 this season and is due for falling off... Eagles let him go for a reason.

mason you mean shaq mason? that would be the dumbest move BB has ever made

Millennial_Messiah

09-08-2019, 11:41 AM

The one concern I have is that Belichick was so eager to throw a $15mm deal at this guy so quickly. I don’t see him doing that unless there’s a big concern he’s trying to address, but with Gordon cleared to play I don’t see how that’s the case. On paper this is the most stacked receiver group Brady has ever had, by far. The Moss/Welker teams had fuck all in terms of depth, while this group has three great options right off the bat and possibly two more depending on Demaryius Thomas and Harry.
Harry is out for the season on IR but that doesn't matter at this point. The Pats have FOUR receivers with all pro and pro bowl to their name. Including two future hall of famers who just so conveniently line up best in the slot. And Michel is in his second year which is usually a great year for a running back. There are concerns on the OL but it's still better than a lot of teams'. Best team since '07 honestly. Doesn't guarantee a ring, though, but that offense should be incredible.

Looks like BB was willing to trade the Raiders a 1st to get Brown :lol but they got lucky

Raven

09-08-2019, 11:52 AM

spurraider21

09-08-2019, 01:43 PM

The one concern I have is that Belichick was so eager to throw a $15mm deal at this guy so quickly. I don’t see him doing that unless there’s a big concern he’s trying to address, but with Gordon cleared to play I don’t see how that’s the case. On paper this is the most stacked receiver group Brady has ever had, by far. The Moss/Welker teams had fuck all in terms of depth, while this group has three great options right off the bat and possibly two more depending on Demaryius Thomas and Harry.
pre-planned tbh. cheatriots special

mortensen said AB spoke with social media consultants to best figure out how to accelerate getting cut. rosenhaus immediately says AB has a robust market and within 15 minutes the guy has a huge 1 year deal from pats lined up and agreed to

Millennial_Messiah

09-08-2019, 01:45 PM

I mean this team should be good down the line if they manage to stay healthy, but early on there should be a lot of rust as these people basically never played toghether and the blocking will be worse no matter what..
I had them winning tonight and losing next weekend at Miami, but Miami looks god awful today... not even sure about that at this point

spurraider21

09-08-2019, 02:08 PM

:lmao patriots fans thinking they were losing to dolphins in week 2

thats some clipper nation level bullshit

Mark Celibate

09-08-2019, 03:17 PM

What the fuck do you mean they’ve just “plugged left tackles for awhile”? Prior to last year, they had gone over 15 years with either Matt Light or Nate Solder as their starting left tackle. It had been a position where they had great continuity.

Either way though, left tackle isn’t their problem, losing Andrews is. Brady has always been able to overcome inconsistent left tackle play outside of when Von Miller was unstoppable. The middle part of his career when he didn’t win any super bowls was filled with patchwork starters at RG/C who allowed a-gap pressure at the wrong time, not to mention a left guard (Mankins) who played great in the regular season but regularly shat the bed in the playoffs.

:lmao

talking out of his ass per, par , etc.

Chris

09-10-2019, 09:51 PM

We need some cosmic justice here this shit ain't right

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1171583605576892416?s=20

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Millennial_Messiah

09-10-2019, 09:56 PM

Patriots are the one team that, if their entire starting offensive line and receiving corps were off the team tomorrow and replaced by backups and practice squad guys, I'd still pick them to win almost any given game.

Will Hunting

09-11-2019, 07:43 AM

pre-planned tbh. cheatriots special

:cry muh cheatriots :cry

DC23

09-22-2019, 12:35 PM

Gostkowski missed another extra point. That's 2 so far this year plus a missed field goal...

BD24

09-23-2019, 04:23 PM

Millennial_Messiah

09-23-2019, 04:28 PM

That’s because you are a fucking idiot

as long as they have BB&B, not to mention the 2nd best off-ball LB corps in the NFL, and the 4th or 5th best secondary... they're extremely hard to beat

DC23

09-29-2019, 04:18 PM

Gostkowski missed another extra point today. Is he injured? He may be out of the door soon.

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 04:23 PM

not sure how great they are at this point, the offense definitely looks worse than previous years, but the competition has been downright atrocious. 3-0 in the division, should be ultimately 6-0 easily before the end of the season. Their schedule is definitely backloaded, another easy cupcake next week against the 0-4 Deadskins

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 04:30 PM

DC23

09-29-2019, 04:34 PM

I'm predicting a 13-3 regular season record.

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 04:52 PM

I'm predicting a 13-3 regular season record.

which 3 do they lose?

Philly
Dallas
????

DC23

09-29-2019, 05:03 PM

which 3 do they lose?

Philly
Dallas
????
Chiefs. Patriots could go 14-2, sure, but I'm just being on the conservative side.

Will Hunting

09-29-2019, 05:10 PM

the vibe I get from this team is 2015, easy schedule and undefeated for awhile, but backloaded schedule makes them lose a few times down the stretch, and they ultimately don't have quite enough horsepower to win the AFC.
They lost a few down the stretch that year because of an ungodly amount of injuries.

As usual you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 05:14 PM

Chiefs. Patriots could go 14-2, sure, but I'm just being on the conservative side.

the Chiefs game is at home though, so I'd pick the Pats to win there

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 05:15 PM

:lmao thinking they’ll lose to Dallas.

the last one in 2011 was a late miracle by Hernandez away from happening, and that was with a far worse Cowboys team

also the Garrett era Cowboys play up against strong competition, and down to weaker tbh historically

DC23

09-29-2019, 05:52 PM

the Chiefs game is at home though, so I'd pick the Pats to win there
I'm aware but the way Mahomes is currently playing I don't think it matters tbh

Millennial_Messiah

09-29-2019, 05:54 PM

We
I'm aware but the way Mahomes is currently playing I don't think it matters tbh

Were you watching the same game I was today? Mahomes played like dogshit. He's missing routine intermediate throws badly. Zero TDs for Mahomes today, first time in his career.

DC23

09-29-2019, 06:04 PM

We

Were you watching the same game I was today? Mahomes played like dogshit. He's missing routine intermediate throws badly. Zero TDs for Mahomes today, first time in his career.
Didn't catch today's but his first three games he looked unstoppable. Guess we'll see how the next few weeks play out.

Cuppycake Gumdrop

10-22-2019, 09:34 AM

A second rounder for Sanu???? Pretty steep price for an average receiver. If you’re gonna spend a second round pick for a receiver. I would much rather have gotten Emmanuel Sanders.

spurraider21

10-22-2019, 11:59 AM

Millennial_Messiah

10-22-2019, 09:33 PM

yeah, a second feels like a gross overpay for sanu imo. and it doesnt read like the pats bent over, supposedly they tried to get him for a second during the draft and were turned down, and now the falcons gave in and agreed to it. he's still 29, though, and is under contract through next season.

that's definitely a head scratching move for the Pats, sort of like when the Eagles wasted a 3rd on Golden Tate last year and now he's gone. Especially if Emmanuel Sanders was on the trading block. Sanu is a declining possession receiver, not a speedster at all but he can do other things like block and throw. Bet the Pats use him as a thrower at least twice before the year is up.