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Yogatti
07-29-2019, 02:11 AM
saying it was a role-player FMVP, saying it was Iguodala type of FMVP aka a joke.

Do you agree with this? I think it's straight up disrespect. They make it sound like it's easy to guard Lebron an entire series while scoring 20+ points. And Lebron was stat padding hard in the finals as well.

SanAntonioSpurs23
07-29-2019, 02:23 AM
I agree. Fuck Kawhi!

apalisoc_9
07-29-2019, 02:27 AM
Top 4 playoff performance in the last 10 years.

Only

Lebron 16, Durants first championship, Kawhi toronto..tops it.

Thread
07-29-2019, 06:25 AM
That's Media keeping Pop safe & warm.

LkrFan
07-29-2019, 08:46 AM
I agree. Fuck Kawhi!

^

phxspurfan
07-29-2019, 12:45 PM
That was Tim Duncan's FMVP tbh

FkLA
07-29-2019, 12:56 PM
It's arguable that he was already capable of carrying a bigger load in 2014 but that doesn't change the fact that he didn't. The offense wasn't going through him like it did in his last few years in SA/1 year in TOR. The Spurs of that era were known for their beautiful game not Nephew's individual greatness.

Obviously it was a role player FMVP. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to rewrite history, tbh.

Robz4000
07-29-2019, 01:43 PM
Top 4 playoff performance in the last 10 years.

Only

Lebron 16, Durants first championship, Kawhi toronto..tops it.

2003 Tim Duncan says hi.

Millennial_Messiah
07-29-2019, 01:48 PM
It's arguable that he was already capable of carrying a bigger load in 2014 but that doesn't change the fact that he didn't. The offense wasn't going through him like it did in his last few years in SA/1 year in TOR. The Spurs of that era were known for their beautiful game not Nephew's individual greatness.

Obviously it was a role player FMVP. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to rewrite history, tbh.

You're a chickenshit for abandoning Kawhi after you repeatedly said in the past that he was your favorite player, tbh.

Arcadian
07-29-2019, 01:49 PM
It's somewhere in between. It was more impressive than 2015 Iguodala, but nowhere near a top-tier performance.

Millennial_Messiah
07-29-2019, 01:50 PM
That was Tim Duncan's FMVP tbh
No. 2013 was. All that needed to happen was for him to have been in the game to collect his last rebound. He only would have needed to make 1 of the 2 ensuing free throws to ice everything. The trophy and champagne were prairie dogging it in the locker room, ready for consumption. But

Millennial_Messiah
07-29-2019, 01:50 PM
It's somewhere in between. It was more impressive than 2015 Iguodala, but nowhere near a top-tier performance.

Basically both the '14 and '15 FMVPs were both out of huge respect to Lebron.

Clipper Nation
07-29-2019, 02:00 PM
That was Tim Duncan's FMVP tbh
No, you're thinking of 2007.

Seventyniner
07-29-2019, 02:39 PM
It's somewhere in between. It was more impressive than 2015 Iguodala, but nowhere near a top-tier performance.

This. Three great games and two duds is nowhere close to top tier.

Also, LeBron was by far the best player on either team but the media will never give FMVP to someone on the losing team.

DJR210
07-29-2019, 02:56 PM
Nah.. He deserved it.. He made life hard for LBJ. He probably would have averaged 45 a game that series without Kawhi.. Plus Kawhi had good scoring nights on 3/5 of those games to help further neutralize LeBron's contributions

phxspurfan
07-29-2019, 03:09 PM
No. 2013 was. All that needed to happen was for him to have been in the game to collect his last rebound. He only would have needed to make 1 of the 2 ensuing free throws to ice everything. The trophy and champagne were prairie dogging it in the locker room, ready for consumption. But

He also beat OKC, which was the real finals in 2014.

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Millennial_Messiah
07-29-2019, 03:11 PM
No, you're thinking of 2007.

Manu deserved the one in 05 though

Laker_1995
07-29-2019, 04:44 PM
Top 4 playoff performance in the last 10 years.

Only

Lebron 16, Durants first championship, Kawhi toronto..tops it.


for me as mentioned above Duncan 2003 is above kawahi
also 2011 dirk
Shit even 2009 Kobe was better.

Arcadian
07-29-2019, 04:53 PM
No. 2013 was. All that needed to happen was for him to have been in the game to collect his last rebound. He only would have needed to make 1 of the 2 ensuing free throws to ice everything. The trophy and champagne were prairie dogging it in the locker room, ready for consumption. But
Yep. He would've been the oldest player since Kareem to win FMVP.

FkLA
07-29-2019, 06:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3y7cWmoBCI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZvNs6r800

DAF86
07-29-2019, 07:21 PM
Unlike Iguodala, Kawhi actually deserved his MVP, but yeah, swap any 3 and D player with Kawhi and the Spurs still probably win that series. In that sense, Kawhi's MVP isn't as relevant as most others in finals MVP history. Heck, Manu was a lot more "valuable" in '05 than Kawhi in '14.

P/S: Kawhi's guarding of Lebron in '14 is one of the most overrated narratives in NBA history. James averaged 30 on 60% shooting.

benefactor
07-29-2019, 07:31 PM
He wasn't MVP worthy, but Diaw made the beautiful game work tbh

Laker_1995
07-30-2019, 12:27 AM
He wasn't MVP worthy, but Diaw made the beautiful game work tbh


I said this a while back. Diaw could have won mvp since kawahi won it. Diaw was so damn perfect that series. Dude was too smart for Miami

MultiTroll
07-30-2019, 09:53 AM
saying it was a role-player FMVP, saying it was Iguodala type of FMVP aka a joke.

Do you agree with this? I think it's straight up disrespect. They make it sound like it's easy to guard Lebron an entire series while scoring 20+ points. And Lebron was stat padding hard in the finals as well.

MultiTroll
07-30-2019, 09:56 AM
Yep. He would've been the oldest player since Kareem to win FMVP.
While we all know it, Duncan would have been recognized by quite a few more Casual Phan / Main Stream Media phaggots with another legit Finals MVP.

KobesAchilles
07-30-2019, 10:11 AM
It’s overrated in the sense that it leads casuals to believe he was the leader of the Spurs that year and led them to a championship. That is not even close to being true.

However, Kawhi played great games 3-5 and clearly deserved/earned the FMVP.

MultiTroll
07-30-2019, 10:23 AM
It’s overrated in the sense that it leads casuals to believe he was the leader of the Spurs that year and led them to a championship. That is not even close to being true.

However, Kawhi played great games 3-5 and clearly deserved/earned the FMVP.
Exactly. It's like if Kwa was not going to be the MVP, then who was?
Ok we're all cool with Duncan being chosen, but even then, Duncs was not clear cut.
Someone was going to be chosen off The Beautiful Game Spurs. It was Kwa. As good a choice as any.

I'm big on momentum plays. Not that one play makes or breaks a game, but one play often feeds into many more plays and even an entire game / series attitude. GNob has had 6 million of these. Robert Horry Spurs had many. Duncs cannot even be counted.
Kwa had some kick ass momentum plays in 2014 Finals.

Neo.
07-30-2019, 10:28 AM
manu was the real mvp of that series

same as kyle lowry being the real mvp this finals