Fun Fact: Small Forwards (SF) have won every Finals MVP since 2011

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dirk is the last non-small forward to win FMVP... just bizarre, huh? I bet nobody else thought of this.


Is this trend a fluke or an accurate sign of the times? Discuss.

[Yogatti]

Just goes to show you need a elite SF to win this league right now. Can't win anything when you have a $50 million midget as your PG

[Millennial_Messiah]

Just goes to show you need a elite SF to win this league right now. Can't win anything when you have a $50 million midget as your PG

And back in the day all that was needed was a Rick Fox or Bruce Bowen, 3 & D type.

[lefty]

Michael Jordan played against plumbers and Subway sandwich makers

[FrostKing]

And back in the day all that was needed was a Rick Fox or Bruce Bowen, 3 & D type.
1) Centers disappeared
2) C-SF became interchangeble
3) Tall guards became SFs

In today's NBA MJ is a SF and played as one with the Wizards


In the 90s the SF position was the thinnest

[apalisoc_9]

Michael Jordan played against plumbers and Subway sandwich makers

Lol ive seen 16 year old average samdiwsh makers that also plays bball in Highschool that can dribble better than Jeff Hornacek and Get dunk better than 90s players.

[FrostKing]

Lol ive seen 16 year old average samdiwsh makers that also plays bball in Highschool that can dribble better than Jeff Hornacek and Get dunk better than 90s players.
> dribbling & dunking

Bet you adored the And1 tour

[lefty]

Lol ive seen 16 year old average samdiwsh makers that also plays bball in Highschool that can dribble better than Jeff Hornacek and Get dunk better than 90s players.

:lol

True true

[Spurtacular]

:cry But Curry really deserved the 2015 FMVP :cry

[DMC]

Michael Jordan played against plumbers and Subway sandwich makers

And grocery baggers, real talk. John Stark.

[lefty]

And grocery baggers, real talk. John Stark.
:lol yup forgot to mention that one

[FrostKing]

Get lazy Lebron a summer job at dominoes to build work ethic?

[Millennial_Messiah]

:cry But Curry really deserved the 2015 FMVP :cry

Nah. Curry was a volume chucker that series. Absolutely atrocious in Game 3, worse than Kobe's Game 7 2010.

[Chris]

Just takes one center or power forward to come back and dominate the post before the game goes back to inside-out like it's supposed to be. Players like Embiid are more interested in Curry chucking which is detrimental to the game overall imo.

Bob Pettit
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlian
Wes Unseld
Willis Reed
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dave Cowens
Bob McAdoo
Bill Walton
Moses Malone
Charles Barkley
Hakeem Olajuwan
David Robinson
Karl Malone
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki

Who's next?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Just takes one center or power forward to come back and dominate the post before the game goes back to inside-out like it's supposed to be. Players like Embiid are more interested in Curry chucking which is detrimental to the game overall imo.

Bob Pettit
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlian
Wes Unseld
Willis Reed
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dave Cowens
Bob McAdoo
Bill Walton
Moses Malone
Charles Barkley
Hakeem Olajuwan
David Robinson
Karl Malone
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki

Who's next?
New 14 second shot clock on offensive rebounds is stupid... concept is a good idea for the last 2 minutes of the 4th and overtime(s), but not the whole game... this will artificially raise stats and scoring and convolute the league and legacies.

[Arcadian]

Just takes one center or power forward to come back and dominate the post before the game goes back to inside-out like it's supposed to be. Players like Embiid are more interested in Curry chucking which is detrimental to the game overall imo.

Bob Pettit
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlian
Wes Unseld
Willis Reed
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dave Cowens
Bob McAdoo
Bill Walton
Moses Malone
Charles Barkley
Hakeem Olajuwan
David Robinson
Karl Malone
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki

Who's next?

You left off George Mikan, the guy who started it all.

[Chris]

You left off George Mikan, the guy who started it all.

If we're talking ancient history then we should also mention Leroy Edwards who won 3 consecutive MVPs from 1937 to 1940.

[Arcadian]

If we're talking ancient history then we should also mention Leroy Edwards who won 3 consecutive MVPs from 1937 to 1940.

You have Pettit on there, so why not Mikan? If we're drawing a line somewhere, I'd put Mikan above the line. People had no idea how to defend his hook shot with his strength. He was the first superstar. He caused the shot clock, goaltending, and narrower lanes.

[R. DeMurre]

In the 70s thru the early 2000s, a player could thrive as a traditional center or PG. Defensive switching wasn't nearly as important-- if you were a center switched on a smaller player and that player looked like he might take a 23 or 24 foot jump shoot, you'd done your job defensively. An attempt from 24 ft worth 2 points was a poor shoot. The 3 pt era changed all of that.

[R. DeMurre]

And now the Clippers have two SFs that are MVP level, which is interesting. If Kawhi wins a ring in L.A., historians might point out that he out-maneuvered Lebron by wanting to play with another super versatile SF in Paul George but without a Big like Anthony Davis, who in theory might clog up the lane and get in the way of modern ball movement. It'd be a funny footnote to NBA history if one of the under-the-radar reasons Kawhi got another ring was because Ivica Zubac happens to have a significantly lower usage rate than Anthony Davis.