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ducks
08-08-2019, 10:36 PM
An off-duty firefighter who had a firearm with him stopped a potential attack from taking place at a Walmart in Missouri after a 20-year-old man showed up to the store with a rifle, body armor, and over 100 rounds of ammunition.

ducks
08-08-2019, 10:37 PM
"His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business," Lt. Mike Lucas with the Springfield Police Department said. "In fact, he’s lucky to be alive still to be honest."

Although it's not yet clear what the man's intent was, Lucas said, "We definitely have some crimes here."

Lucas said that there may have been a Facebook Live posted by the suspect and that law enforcement officials are conducting an investigation and looking through the suspect's social media.

KOLR news anchor tweeted "20-year-old man with rifle, handgun & body armor arrested at Walmart on Republic. SFD Police say he had 100+ rounds of ammunition. Off-duty firefighter with concealed carry gun held him at gunpoint until officers arrived about 3 minutes later"P

ducks
08-08-2019, 10:38 PM
The Springfield Police Department released this statement:

At approximately 4:10 p.m. Springfield Police Officers were dispatched to 3150 W. Republic Rd. to a Walmart Neighborhood Market. An armed white male in his twenties was detained by an armed off-duty fireman until officers arrived on scene and took the suspect into custody. No injuries were reported and no shots were fired. At this time, the investigation is on-going and we are working to determine his motives.

Thread
08-08-2019, 10:45 PM
Is he non-white?

Sir Johnny
08-08-2019, 10:47 PM
So many total freaks wandering around out there any more. The internet isn't helping.

Chumpette
08-08-2019, 10:48 PM
https://www.speakgif.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/i-got-nothing-animated-gif.gif

Trill Clinton
08-08-2019, 10:57 PM
I'm glad someone stopped another white guy from shooting up more innocent people.

ElNono
08-08-2019, 11:05 PM
He was just carrying a rifle and 100 rounds of ammo, what's the crime, tbh?

Sir Johnny
08-08-2019, 11:11 PM
Too bad the guy didn't get shot in the leg, just banged up enought to get ya can't be acting stupid.

Walking around with a rifle, how dumb was this guy?

Sir Johnny
08-08-2019, 11:11 PM
I'm glad someone stopped another white guy from shooting up more innocent people.

White/black really isn't the deal here. Being stupid is.

Thread
08-08-2019, 11:26 PM
I'm glad someone stopped another white guy from shooting up more innocent people.

Dammit! You lucked out once & again. SOB!!!

Thread
08-08-2019, 11:27 PM
White/black really isn't the deal here. Being stupid is.

Nonetheless, I'd like to have a jolly.

Chris
08-09-2019, 01:52 AM
I'm glad someone stopped another white guy from shooting up more innocent people.

The overt troll.


He was just carrying a rifle and 100 rounds of ammo, what's the crime, tbh?

The subtle troll.

Splits
08-09-2019, 02:10 AM
He was just carrying a rifle and 100 rounds of ammo, what's the crime, tbh?

Seriously. What are they going to charge him with?


Police say a man was arrested Thursday after he showed up at a Springfield Walmart store with a loaded rifle and a bulletproof vest.

Lt. Mike Lucas with the Springfield Police Department said the incident occurred at about 4:10 p.m. at the Walmart Neighborhood Market on West Republic Road.

Lucas said the man showed up to the business with body armor and military-style clothing and then walked inside carrying a “tactical rifle” and another gun.

As shoppers were panicking and fleeing the store, Lucas said the man was taking video on his phone and making comments to people while pushing a shopping cart.

Lucas said the suspect then walked out of the store, where an off-duty firefighter held the suspect at gunpoint until police arrived moments later.

The suspect, a 20-year-old white man, was arrested, but Lucas said police are still working to determine his motives and whether he intended to shoot anyone.

Whitey just exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.

Splits
08-09-2019, 02:28 AM
I mean, what's the point of owning all of that "personal protection" if you're not going to use it? With so many crazy white guys running around shooting things up, I wouldn't go to Walmart unarmed. Fuck that. Dude was just protecting himself and his fellow blue-light shoppers, probably just went to pick up some milk. What have we come to as a nation if a guy can't go shopping with his 2nd Amendment protection?

Splits
08-09-2019, 03:08 AM
Also, I'm shocked, SHOCKED, they took him alive.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBf3SfYVAAEZRku?format=jpg

Pavlov
08-09-2019, 03:15 AM
:lol white guy was obviously trolling.

open carry bad now.

lol dipshits

tenbeersbold
08-09-2019, 03:34 AM
I'm glad someone stopped another white guy from shooting up more innocent people.

Yeah because white people are the ones to worry about...
As usual Black people are responsible by FAR for the most amount of spree/mass shootings(defined as three or more victims)

The media may LIE to you but don't let that blind you to the FACTS and REALITY as recorded by every Fed and State law enforcement agency
Hell even the NYT and Washington Post own databases

Between July 16th and July 28th 2019 there were 36 mass shooting across the USA
Blacks were suspects in 34 of them,Whites ONE,Hispanics the other one.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/after_gilroy_mass_shootings_a_white_thing_oh_hell_ no.html

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 03:34 AM
:lol white guy was obviously trolling.

open carry bad now.

lol dipshits

Dat some Blake Zero shit. :lol

Open carry doesn't mean non-concealed, dipshit. And certainly there are restrictions on open carry as it applies to assault weapons, too.

Pavlov
08-09-2019, 03:35 AM
Dat some Blake Zero shit. :lol

Open carry doesn't mean non-concealed, dipshit. And certainly there are restrictions on open carry as it applies to assault weapons, too.What are those restrictions, derp?

Let's talk about those.

Please cite the laws to which you are referring.

Thanks in advance.

tenbeersbold
08-09-2019, 03:40 AM
No one in the media,Twitterverse wants to talk about the beyond tragic levels of gun violence,homicide within the black community.
Because that is where the vast majority of crime and gun violence happens,Black on Black crime in impoverished inner city ghettos.

Its not White people randomly killing their neighbors at alarming rates.

Pavlov
08-09-2019, 03:42 AM
No one in the media,Twitterverse wants to talk about the beyond tragic levels of gun violence,homicide within the black community.
Because that is where the vast majority of crime and gun violence happens,Black on Black crime in impoverished inner city ghettos.

Its not White people randomly killing their neighbors at alarming rates.True, this white guy wasn't doing anything but taking selfies.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 03:44 AM
What are those restrictions, derp?

Let's talk about those.

Please cite the laws to which you are referring.

Thanks in advance.

Are you under the impression that it is lawful to carry an assault weapon into a shopping center, derp chump?

Pavlov
08-09-2019, 03:45 AM
Are you under the impression that it is lawful to carry an assault weapon into a shopping center, derp chump?derp folds

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 04:20 AM
Fold

Par.

ElNono
08-09-2019, 04:38 AM
The subtle troll.

No, I mean, seriously, what's the criminal charge here?

And if this guy did this in New York or California you'll be working that tweetbox overtime on how muh 2nd amendment rights were violated and libural fascism :lol

Splits
08-09-2019, 08:05 AM
No, I mean, seriously, what's the criminal charge here?

And if this guy did this in New York or California you'll be working that tweetbox overtime on how muh 2nd amendment rights were violated and libural fascism :lol


The open carrying of firearms is legal in Missouri, as long as the weapon is not displayed in a threatening manner, according to the National Rifle Association’s website (https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/missouri/)

:lol I hope the "good fireman with a gun" is arrested for unlawful detention

midnightpulp
08-09-2019, 08:25 AM
When the right cites these instances, they do in intellectual dishonestly, as if to say, "See, more good guys with a gun will reduce these events! Gun control not needed!" I think most gun control advocates wouldn't object to:

- A fireman (typically responsible citizens) carrying a weapon.
- The carrying of handguns as personal defense weapons (if you without a doubt prove yourself responsible).

We can actually flip it and say the good guy with a gun didn't need an AR-15 with a 100 round drum mag to stop the situation. In any event, this situation still illustrates that yet another disgruntled individual obtained possession of an AR-15 and a very high capacity magazine.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:26 AM
Im thinking the way to go here for a nut case is to conceal, pretend you are threatened, pull the gun and fire away?
Or not depending on your mood and if you can really carry through. Maybe you run a few trials.
Any rules on limits of ammo one can have on their person while... shopping for ammo at Walmart?
One stop shopping at its finest.

midnightpulp
08-09-2019, 08:43 AM
Yeah, ElNono and Gardn masterfully flipped here. If people possessing AR-15s and 100 round drum mags aren't an issue, why was our "good guy with a gun" so concerned by a fellow citizen freely exercising his 2nd Amendment right? And if carrying an AR-15/possessing a 100 drum mag in public is against the law in Missouri, prompting our good guy into action, then obviously Missouri lawmakers see AR-15s differently than 9mm handguns.

This situation seems to more prove the gun control (not "gun grabbing") advocate side than the other way around.

Splits
08-09-2019, 09:03 AM
Are you under the impression that it is lawful to carry an assault weapon into a shopping center, derp chump?

It is in Missouri.

Do you think it should be illegal?

midnightpulp
08-09-2019, 09:03 AM
And let's be fair here, it wasn't like the shooter was raising his rifle and then our hero drew on him and diffused the situation. The guy was walking through Walmart for a bit, causing a panic, before the intervention.


The man was pushing a cart and recording himself walking through the store with a cell phone when the manager pulled the fire alarm to notify customers to escape, according to CNN affiliate KYTV.

"All we know is the fact that he walked in here heavily armed with body armor on, in military fatigues and caused a great amount of panic inside the store. So he certainly had the capability the potential to harm people," Lucas said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-man-arrested-at-missouri-walmart/ar-AAFxtzS?ocid=spartanntp

Who knows how many he could've claimed if that was really his intent. I'm thinking, since he had out his cell phone, he was yet another incel who was looking to emulate New Zealand and had second thoughts, or maybe he was doing some loony protest experiment to prove a point about how easy it is to walk into a public establishment armed to the teeth.

Trill Clinton
08-09-2019, 09:11 AM
potential shooter was a 20 year old father of 2. dude was probably hoping a cop would come and suicide him.

Splits
08-09-2019, 09:13 AM
And let's be fair here, it wasn't like the shooter was raising his rifle and then our hero drew on him and diffused the situation.

Our hero was waiting outside, only after our 2nd Amendment warrior left the store did he intervene

rjv
08-09-2019, 09:38 AM
wonder if that fireman needed an assault rifle and 100 rounds of ammo to stop him.

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 09:43 AM
Gun laws in Missouri


Open carry

Missouri allows open carry without a permit, so long as the firearm is not displayed in an angry or threatening manner.[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Missouri#cite_note-20)

Some localities prohibit open carry;

however, concealed carry license holders are exempted from this restriction.[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Missouri#cite_note-21)

Missouri does not prohibit the open carry of any specific weapon,

nor do most of the restrictions in RSMo 571.030 apply to the open carry of a firearm or other weapon.

It is not a crime under Missouri law to openly carry a weapon into any place where concealed carry is prohibited,

except for a church, school bus, school, or onto the grounds of a school function.

According to RSMo Section 571.030, there is no age limit to openly carry a handgun, long gun or any deadly weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Missouri#Open_carry

Typical red/slave state whored to the NRA

Trainwreck2100
08-09-2019, 09:45 AM
If the ask why he was wearing body armor, he can say because he was afraid to go to Walmart without protection

rjv
08-09-2019, 09:48 AM
If the ask why he was wearing body armor, he can say because he was afraid to go to Walmart without protection

:lol

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 09:53 AM
It is in Missouri.

Do you think it should be illegal?

I can see a level of value to it; and I respect the people's right to make their own laws.

Nathan89
08-09-2019, 09:57 AM
Yup the guy was seemingly just exercising his 2nd amendment rights.

Splits
08-09-2019, 09:59 AM
I can see a level of value to it; and I respect the people's right to make their own laws.


Dat some Blake Zero shit. :lol

Open carry doesn't mean non-concealed, dipshit. And certainly there are restrictions on open carry as it applies to assault weapons, too.


Are you under the impression that it is lawful to carry an assault weapon into a shopping center, derp chump?

:lmao

ducks
08-09-2019, 10:05 AM
If the ask why he was wearing body armor, he can say because he was afraid to go to Walmart without protection

Do you protect your body parts with clothes ?

Splits
08-09-2019, 10:08 AM
Do you protect your body parts with clothes ?

Do you show your body parts to 12 year old girls when you pee on them?

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 10:26 AM
I think TX gun assholes can walk around with long guns anywhere anytime.

starbucks texas:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBX8mNbWsAMqmun?format=jpg&name=medium

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 10:26 AM
:lmao

I did use the term open carry when I meant concealed carry. I was unaware that Missouri is open carry; I figured they had went with the trend to stop open carry; but they haven't.

So, is your contention that this guy was in full compliance with all gun laws?

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 10:27 AM
I think TX gun assholes can walk around with long guns anywhere anytime.

starbucks texas:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBX8mNbWsAMqmun?format=jpg&name=medium

But the store (still yet the company) probably has the a policy against it, I would guess.

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 10:36 AM
But the store (still yet the company) probably has the a policy against it, I would guess.

asshole was protesting Howie Schultz' policy.

America is one sick assed country.

MultiTroll
08-09-2019, 10:39 AM
The hell is Bitch Mc and Oranges reasons for not wanting further background checks before issuing mass murderors an assault rifle?

Thread
08-09-2019, 10:48 AM
The hell is Bitch Mc and Oranges reasons for not wanting further background checks before issuing mass murderors an assault rifle?

They don't want to end up like Diblasio in New York,,,with his troops turning their backs on him.

I done warned the old man Tuesday morning this is precisely what will happen if he signs it.

Instead put that red flag happy horseshit up there. The SC will strike that down faster than Leonard left Texas.

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 10:52 AM
The hell is Bitch Mc and Oranges reasons for not wanting further background checks before issuing mass murderors an assault rifle?

reasons? $10Ms from NRA/BigGun, and NRA's influence on the voting of its gun-fellating sheeple

Just one of 1000s of examples where the oligarchy buys and operates govt to enable/protect/increase its profits.

some corrupt lawyer would come up with the argument that b/g check limits a person's exercise of his 2nd Amendment rights to access guns.

Felons can get guns, but in many states, they can't vote EVER.

Trill Clinton
08-09-2019, 11:06 AM
I think TX gun assholes can walk around with long guns anywhere anytime.

starbucks texas:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBX8mNbWsAMqmun?format=jpg&name=medium

i wish i could do that

Blake
08-09-2019, 11:59 AM
I did use the term open carry when I meant concealed carry. I was unaware that Missouri is open carry; I figured they had went with the trend to stop open carry; but they haven't.

So, is your contention that this guy was in full compliance with all gun laws?

Is it your contention he's breaking a gun law?

Trainwreck2100
08-09-2019, 12:01 PM
i wish i could do that

You can, you just can't do it twice

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 12:19 PM
i wish i could do that

what's stopping you?

Trill Clinton
08-09-2019, 12:23 PM
what's stopping you?

white supremacy. i'd get shot as soon as i step out the car.

Thread
08-09-2019, 12:24 PM
white supremacy. i'd get shot as soon as i step out the car.

Please. You've been the protected species for a 1/2 century +.

Trill Clinton
08-09-2019, 12:27 PM
Please. You've been the protected species for a 1/2 century +.

i'll be dead. wife with no husband and son with no father. i'd be gone fam.

Blake
08-09-2019, 12:30 PM
Please. You've been the protected species for a 1/2 century +.

Oh you mean like Michael Brown

Splits
08-09-2019, 12:32 PM
I did use the term open carry when I meant concealed carry. I was unaware that Missouri is open carry; I figured they had went with the trend to stop open carry; but they haven't.

No, you didn't. That lie makes no sense. How do you conceal a rifle?



So, is your contention that this guy was in full compliance with all gun laws?


Authorities identified the man who walked into a Walmart with tactical weapons on Thursday as 20-year-old Dmitriy Andreychenko.Andreychenko was booked into jail on suspicion of making a terrorist threat. Formal charges had not been filed as of Friday morning.

That doesn't sound like a firearm charge.

TSA
08-09-2019, 12:32 PM
Oh you mean like Michael Brown

Of all the examples you could have come up with this is the one you chose :lol terrible choice.

Thread
08-09-2019, 12:34 PM
Oh you mean like Michael Brown

The gentle giant had committed a strong arm robbery minutes before he was sent to live with Jesus full-time.

DMX7
08-09-2019, 12:41 PM
An off-duty firefighter who had a firearm with him stopped a potential attack from taking place at a Walmart in Missouri after a 20-year-old man showed up to the store with a rifle, body armor, and over 100 rounds of ammunition.

How do we know the 20-year-old wasn't carrying it for self defense? Bad to judge people.

Blake
08-09-2019, 12:56 PM
Of all the examples you could have come up with this is the one you chose :lol terrible choice.

So there's plenty of other examples then. Thanks

boutons_deux
08-09-2019, 01:16 PM
white supremacy. i'd get shot as soon as i step out the car.

oh, right.

anyway, these ignorant, childish assholes with tiny dicks and serious emotional problems can go fuck themselves.

A few them need to be shot dead by others defending themselves with "I Feared For My Life", which has a perfect record for cops.

clambake
08-09-2019, 01:23 PM
You can, you just can't do it twice

lol

Spurminator
08-09-2019, 02:37 PM
i wish i could do that

I could get away with it but I prefer not to look like a hysterically deranged moron with a small penis.

Winehole23
08-09-2019, 02:52 PM
Please. You've been the protected species for a 1/2 century +.Passing civil rights and voting rights acts for certain classes of people who ought to have had them by birthright suggests a more or less intractable social and political problem.

The US racial caste system problem wasn't fixed by passing laws fifty years ago, and it's not fixed today. Fear of the law didn't change the hearts of men and women, nor has the law leveled the playing field.

Splits
08-09-2019, 04:54 PM
According to a probable cause statement filed in court Friday, Andreychenko told police he was recording himself in case somebody tried to stop him and tell him to leave. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
"I wanted to know if that Wal-Mart honored the 2nd amendment," Andreychenko said, according to the documents. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
He told police he had intended to buy grocery backs and didn't think people would react the way that they did. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
"This is Missouri, I understand if we were somewhere else like New York or California, people would freak out," he said. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)

Andreychenko is vehemently pro-gun, according to his social media pages. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)

Widely circulated screenshots of a Facebook post reportedly from Andreychenko railed against Walmart for raising the age limit for buying a gun from 18 to 21 in February. BuzzFeed News was not able to independently verify the post was written by the suspect, as his Facebook page was made private by Friday.

(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)"It's official. I hate Walmart. Apparently they won't sell Rifle and shotgun ammo if your under 21," the alleged post said. "'New policy' However I can walk into the store with a loaded .40 and nobody says anything. What a joke." (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
His public profile indicates he followed several right-wing Facebook pages that posted hordes of pro-gun memes, as well as pro-Trump, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and anti-trans memes. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
(https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)
His Instagram bio — which declares "Love my guns" — also includes the ancient Greek phrase "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ," meaning "come and take them," which is a popular motto in the pro-gun community. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/juliareinstein/missouri-walmart-gun-panic-body-armor-shooting-scare)

Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you exhibit-A, your standard gun-fetish freak.

:lmao the 'good guy with a gun' story

spurraider21
08-09-2019, 04:59 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you exhibit-A, your standard gun-fetish freak.

:lmao the 'good guy with a gun' story
but how is he supposed to defend himself from a cruise missile without his .40?

Blake
08-09-2019, 05:17 PM
but how is he supposed to defend himself from a cruise missile without his .40?

Cruise missile? How about a van!

Splits
08-09-2019, 05:18 PM
but how is he supposed to defend himself from a cruise missile without his .40?

Henckels

clambake
08-09-2019, 05:33 PM
he looks like johnny manzel.

Chris
08-09-2019, 06:32 PM
No, I mean, seriously, what's the criminal charge here?

Terroristic threats; faces up to 4 years in prison


(you're welcome)

Pavlov
08-09-2019, 06:33 PM
Terroristic threats; faces up to 4 years in prison


(you're welcome)Cosplay is a threat?

Blake
08-09-2019, 06:34 PM
.

Blake
08-09-2019, 06:36 PM
Lol I almost hope it sticks

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 06:56 PM
No, you didn't. That lie makes no sense. How do you conceal a rifle?


You don't (not counting within an automobile trunk). My thought was that such open carry would be illegal.

Chris
08-09-2019, 06:57 PM
:lol I hope the "good fireman with a gun" is arrested for unlawful detention

welp :lol

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 06:58 PM
Is it your contention he's breaking a gun law?

Not from what I've seen. What say you?

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 07:03 PM
asshole was protesting Howie Schultz' policy.

America is one sick assed country.

It wouldn't bother me if it was in a case and preferably not loaded (clip can be in case). I think a guy acting like he's in a military field is beyond the pale in these allegedly more civilized times.

Whether or not it's illegal, this guy's an asshole for doing that, imo.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 07:50 PM
Ducks with the complete backfire thread...

Chris
08-09-2019, 07:54 PM
Ducks with the complete backfire thread...


How is it a backfire?

Dude got charged with terroristic threats, and the fireman was lauded. If anything it backfired on all the Liberal/Democrats ITT who came rushing to his defense.

Splits
08-09-2019, 07:56 PM
How is it a backfire?

Dude got charged with terroristic threats, and the fireman was lauded. If anything it backfired on all the Liberal/Democrats ITT who came rushing to his defense.

:lmao

Splits
08-09-2019, 07:58 PM
This is probably the loudest backfire thread of the year

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:00 PM
How is it a backfire?

Dude got charged with terroristic threats, and the fireman was lauded. If anything it backfired on all the Liberal/Democrats ITT who came rushing to his defense.

OH its that clear to you.
Go back and read.

So show me what that means?
Whats the law and how much time does in carry if sentenced?

And you get back to me when he is found guilty of this instead of ending up in a mental institute.

Chris again with the goods.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:04 PM
Terroristic threats; faces up to 4 years in prison

(you're welcome)

Slippery slope.

Chris
08-09-2019, 08:06 PM
OH its that clear to you.
Go back and read.

So show me what that means?
Whats the law and how much time does in carry if sentenced?

And you get back to me when he is found guilty of this instead of ending up in a mental institute.

Chris again with the goods.

pgardn again with the bads.

"go back and read"

Solid take there fella.

Chris
08-09-2019, 08:07 PM
Slippery slope.

They were so happy when they thought he wasn't going to get charged :lol

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:13 PM
They were so happy when they thought he wasn't going to get charged :lol

Of course not.
Its the fact that he could basically do the same thing and not get charged you idiot.
Not say a word just smile and wave (and then cut people down if he really wanted to follow thru) or not.
I already presented that.
So the ex-fireman pulling a gun, you dont see a problem here?

You like these citizen arrest type situations with people like you evaluating who the threat is and who is not?
I dont...
4 years is the maximum. Wow.
Not if he was Muslim.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:14 PM
4 years is the maximum. Wow.
Not if he was Muslim.

Poor picked on homicidal muslims, amirite?

Chris
08-09-2019, 08:16 PM
So the ex-fireman pulling a gun, you dont see a problem here?

No, I don't see a problem there. Color me crazy.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:16 PM
Poor picked on homicidal muslims, amirite?

A terrorist is a terrorist under the law.
Is there a specific race of terrorist derptacular?

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:17 PM
No, I don't see a problem there. Color me crazy.

Then you are the idiot I thought you were.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:17 PM
A terrorist is a terrorist under the law.
Is there a specific race of terrorist derptacular?

I'm speaking more on a realistic level than the rigors you're trying to hide behind.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:19 PM
I'm speaking more on a realistic level than the rigors you're trying to hide behind.

Oh.
You mean the shut in "I hate girls" and I cant decide what sex I like level?

Chris
08-09-2019, 08:20 PM
Then you are the idiot I thought you were.

Good guy with a gun beats bad guy with a gun. You're upset about this for some asinine reason, but unable to articulate why. Carry on.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:22 PM
Good guy with a gun beats bad guy with a gun. You're upset about this for some asinine reason, but unable to articulate why. Carry on.

Sure.

Its always gonna turn out like this.
We have never had a situation any different.
The good guys, white hats, the bad guys...

Its always clear who is good and bad.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:26 PM
Im thinking the way to go here for a nut case is to conceal, pretend you are threatened, pull the gun and fire away?
Or not, depending on your mood and if you can really carry through. Maybe you run a few trials.
Any rules on limits of ammo one can have on their person while... shopping for ammo at Walmart?
One stop shopping at its finest.

I edited this for your thoughts.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:27 PM
Sure.

Its always gonna turn out like this.
We have never had a situation any different.
The good guys, white hats, the bad guys...

Its always clear who is good and bad.

That Waco biker shootout was cool.
If you had a gun, choose sides, if you did not, run.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:28 PM
Oh.
You mean the shut in "I hate girls" and I cant decide what sex I like level?

That's not anything I was getting at. I don't lose sleep on what happens to these idiots.

I'm saying if you belong to a neanderthal religion willfully, then don't cry "Oh, the humanity!" when shit doesn't go your way.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:31 PM
That's not anything I was getting at. I don't lose sleep on what happens to these idiots.

I'm saying if you belong to a neanderthal religion willfully, then don't cry "Oh, the humanity!" when shit doesn't go your way.

So a Christian terrorist is all good...
Yes, there are Christian terrorists.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:34 PM
So a Christian terrorist is all good...
Yes, there are Christian terrorists.

I get that you want to grandstand, Less Than Blake.

Do you think it makes any sense for a person to willfully be a part of the oppressive Muslim culture?

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:38 PM
I get that you want to grandstand, Less Than Blake.

Do you think it makes any sense for a person to willfully be a part of the oppressive Muslim culture?

Blake always on your mind.
Has he taken the lead in your thoughts over Reck?

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:42 PM
Blake always on your mind.
Has he taken the lead in your thoughts over Reck?

White flaggin' it. :tu

pgardn
08-09-2019, 08:46 PM
White flaggin' it. :tu

Yeah you did with that Christian terrorist thing.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 08:53 PM
Yeah you did with that Christian terrorist thing.

White Christian terrorists? Were these shooters yelling God is great?

Nice philo, Less Than Blake.

Also, :lol at you sperm shielding for muzzies.

ElNono
08-09-2019, 08:56 PM
Terroristic threats; faces up to 4 years in prison

(you're welcome)

Thanks, all good in my book. Hope the charges stick, one less armed gun nut, tbh. :tu

Oh and:
“Patterson is thankful that no one was injured at the Walmart, and asks that you join with him in your thoughts and prayers for the Battlefield Police Officer and citizen who were injured in a vehicle collision as the officer responded to the Walmart,” the release said.

Thoughts and prayers

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:00 PM
White Christian terrorists? Were these shooters yelling God is great?

Nice philo, Less Than Blake.

Also, :lol at you sperm shielding for muzzies.

IRA and the Palestinians worked together and discussed strategies, weapons, and you worry what they are screaming...

So you I guess you eat sperm.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:02 PM
Thanks, all good in my book. Hope the charges stick, one less armed gun nut, tbh. :tu

Oh and:
“Patterson is thankful that no one was injured at the Walmart, and asks that you join with him in your thoughts and prayers for the Battlefield Police Officer and citizen who were injured in a vehicle collision as the officer responded to the Walmart,” the release said.

Thoughts and prayers

He is going to a mental institution, my bet.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 09:02 PM
IRA and the Palestinians worked together and discussed strategies, weapons, and you worry what they are screaming...

So you I guess you eat sperm.

Non coherence.

These guys weren't shooting for God, Less Than Blake.

Chris
08-09-2019, 09:03 PM
Thanks, all good in my book. Hope the charges stick, one less armed gun nut, tbh. :tu

Oh and:
“Patterson is thankful that no one was injured at the Walmart, and asks that you join with him in your thoughts and prayers for the Battlefield Police Officer and citizen who were injured in a vehicle collision as the officer responded to the Walmart,” the release said.

Thoughts and prayers

Sure thing pal.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:06 PM
Non coherence.

These guys weren't shooting for God, Less Than Blake.

Oh so thats it, instead of Kill Those Protestant English Bastards.
Good deal. So God has to be a part of Terror. Damn, thats what they believe and.... IT INVOLVES GOD. And they believe another group should die. And...


Why are you an idiot...

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:07 PM
Sure thing pal.

Chris(tian) casting dispersions.

ElNono
08-09-2019, 09:07 PM
He is going to a mental institution, my bet.

Depends on the lawyer he can afford.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 09:08 PM
Oh so thats it, instead of Kill Those Protestant English Bastards.
Good deal. So God has to be a part of Terror. Damn, thats what they believe and.... IT INVOLVES GOD. And they believe another group should die. And...


Why are you an idiot...

They're not religiously motivated attacks. Keep trying to apply your bigotry though. :lol

DMC
08-09-2019, 09:23 PM
Chris(tian) casting dispersions.

:lmao

"educated"

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:25 PM
:lmao

"educated"

Mrs. Crutchfield showing her superiority.
And the emoji for her words.

Aspersions.

But the iphone mic does what it will as I have stated before.

Chris
08-09-2019, 09:26 PM
:lol

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:28 PM
:lol

Chris.

Neither you or I caught it in time.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:30 PM
They're not religiously motivated attacks. Keep trying to apply your bigotry though. :lol

Oh they are religious in nature and land grabbing motivated attacks.
Thats never happened with the muslims/Israelis and the West who basically granted the land grab.
Protestants and Catholics have never had this problem.

Keep going.

dig that hole.

Chris
08-09-2019, 09:35 PM
Chris.

Neither you or I caught it in time.

I was number one in my class English I-IV. I finished vocabulary tests in less than 2 minutes.

Don't lump me in with your ignorance, and just take the L like a man.

P.S. Your posts butcher the English language; most posters here have no idea what you're raving about.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:39 PM
I was number one in my class English I-IV. I finished vocabulary tests in less than 2 minutes.

Don't lump me in with your ignorance, and just take the L like a man.

P.S. Your posts butcher the English language; most posters here have no idea what you're raving about.

Wow.
You are even better than DMC!


And... you psd me!

Of course.
You have perfectly constructed English sentences and have no idea what I am writing (actually talking and then punching at a screen), but you somehow answer exactly as a fake Chris(tian) should.
So, we communicate.

Chris
08-09-2019, 09:44 PM
Wow.
You are even better than DMC!


And... you psd me!

Of course.
You have perfectly constructed English sentences and have no idea what I am writing (actually talking and then punching at a screen), but you somehow answer exactly as a fake Chris(tian) should.
So, we communicate.

DMC has a few more years experience than I, and he's a smart fellow. Smarter than me I don't mind admitting.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 09:46 PM
Oh they are religious in nature and land grabbing motivated attacks.
Thats never happened with the muslims/Israelis and the West who basically granted the land grab.
Protestants and Catholics have never had this problem.

Keep going.

dig that hole.

Nonsense mode activated.

I give you credit for taking five or six posts to get there instead of doing it right off like you often do.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:51 PM
DMC has a few more years experience than I, and he's a smart fellow. Smarter than me I don't mind admitting.

What is smart Chris?

Memorizing your vocabulary?
How did you come out in college, were you number 1?

Blake
08-09-2019, 09:53 PM
Are you under the impression that it is lawful to carry an assault weapon into a shopping center, derp chump?


I did use the term open carry when I meant concealed carry. I was unaware that Missouri is open carry; I figured they had went with the trend to stop open carry; but they haven't.

So, is your contention that this guy was in full compliance with all gun laws?


Is it your contention he's breaking a gun law?


Not from what I've seen. What say you?

Derp flipping probably not realizing he flipped.

I don't know what "gun law" he might have broken so I think none. They're gonna go after terrorist charges though and right now I'm not sure which way it could go.

pgardn
08-09-2019, 09:54 PM
Nonsense mode activated.

I give you credit for taking five or six posts to get there instead of doing it right off like you often do.

Now we got a white flag.

So religious zealotry makes for the worst terrorist.
The terrorist that feels motivated by race hatred or multiple past historical wrongs including a religious component, are not as bad.

You keep making up those rules and I will keep slapping you.

Blake
08-09-2019, 09:59 PM
I was number one in my class English I-IV. I finished vocabulary tests in less than 2 minutes.

Don't lump me in with your ignorance, and just take the L like a man.

P.S. Your posts butcher the English language; most posters here have no idea what you're raving about.

How the fuck do you not know double negatives are okay?

:lol

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 10:00 PM
Now we got a white flag.

So religious zealotry makes for the worst terrorist.
The terrorist that feels motivated by race hatred or multiple past historical wrongs including a religious component, are not as bad.

You keep making up those rules and I will keep slapping you.

A correction from earlier. I should've said utter nonsense mode activated. Of course, you typically do nonsense each time.

You just mad you couldn't back of your bull shit.

Blake
08-09-2019, 10:02 PM
He is going to a mental institution, my bet.

Doubtful, imo. I think he's fully competent and was trying to make a point.

Chris
08-09-2019, 10:02 PM
How the fuck do you not know double negatives are okay?

:lol

In standard English, each subject-predicate construction should only have one negative form.

You're still butt hurt I corrected your dumb ass, and it's been years! :lol

You used a triple negative. :lol

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 10:03 PM
Derp flipping probably not realizing he flipped.

I don't know what "gun law" he might have broken so I think none. They're gonna go after terrorist charges though and right now I'm not sure which way it could go.

There's no flipping, dipshit. I was originally of the assumption that carrying the assault weapon into the store was a crime. That was then clarified and further comments were appropriately made based on that understanding.

:lmao Cuck grudge posting like an idiot :lmao

Chris
08-09-2019, 10:04 PM
:lmao Cuck grudge posting like an idiot :lmao

YEARS...:lol

pgardn
08-09-2019, 10:08 PM
A correction from earlier. I should've said utter nonsense mode activated. Of course, you typically do nonsense each time.

You just mad you couldn't back of your bull shit.

Just keep manipulating a basically worthless contention that one type of terror is somehow worse than another.
Its pretty easy to make you look foolish, especially close-minded fools like yourself who don’t know any history.

I can hone your argument a bit to make it look better, would you like that?

Blake
08-09-2019, 10:14 PM
In standard English, each subject-predicate construction should only have one negative form.

Lmao nope, wrong. You suck at grammar.

Blake
08-09-2019, 10:16 PM
There's no flipping, dipshit. I was originally of the assumption that carrying the assault weapon into the store was a crime. That was then clarified and further comments were appropriately made based on that understanding.

:lmao Cuck grudge posting like an idiot :lmao

:lol "I didn't flip I just changed my mind after I understood it."

It's okay to admit you flipped, derp.

Chris
08-09-2019, 10:41 PM
Lmao nope, wrong. You suck at grammar.

Explain how it's wrong. "lmao" and "nope" isn't helping your case.

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 10:58 PM
Just keep manipulating a basically worthless contention that one type of terror is somehow worse than another.
Its pretty easy to make you look foolish....

You'd think it would be if you're gonna attribute arguments I'm not making to me. Yet you always fail, Less Than Blake.

:lmao

Spurtacular
08-09-2019, 11:01 PM
:lol "I didn't flip I just changed my mind after I understood it."

It's okay to admit you flipped, derp.

You can't even say how I am to have flipped. I give you credit though; a borderline spurious argument is really really good by your cuck standards. :lol

DMC
08-09-2019, 11:14 PM
Mrs. Crutchfield showing her superiority.
And the emoji for her words.

Aspersions.

But the iphone mic does what it will as I have stated before.

"The iphone mic"

:lol my ass

Chris
08-09-2019, 11:16 PM
"the iphone mic"

Classic :lmao

DMC
08-09-2019, 11:16 PM
Like he used talk to text to put "Chris(tian)" in parenthesis.

:lmao

ElNono
08-09-2019, 11:28 PM
I'll be pretty surprised if the NRA doesn't send a lawyer, tbh... Charging law-abiding citizens for open carry, in a city that allows open carry, with terror laws would be a pretty bad judicial precedent for them...

Blake
08-10-2019, 02:49 AM
Explain how it's wrong. "lmao" and "nope" isn't helping your case.

This isn't a formal English message board. You don't use formal English here either.

I'm also not going to disprove your claim. It's on you to back it up with a legitimate source. But you won't. You're a lazy, lying idiot.

Blake
08-10-2019, 02:50 AM
I'll be pretty surprised if the NRA doesn't send a lawyer, tbh... Charging law-abiding citizens for open carry, in a city that allows open carry, with terror laws would be a pretty bad judicial precedent for them...

I don't think the NRA wants anything to do with this case

Blake
08-10-2019, 02:52 AM
You can't even say how I am to have flipped. I give you credit though; a borderline spurious argument is really really good by your cuck standards. :lol


Jesus.

In first two posts i quoted you, you thought he broke the law. Then you said he broke no laws.

Seriously, again, you have the poorest reading comprehension skills here. You're literally retarded. It's ridiculous.

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 03:01 AM
Dude wasn't a closet homo incel like the actual shooters. But he was a liberal institution flunky, which is why he thought it was a good idea to posture.



His wife, Angelice Andreychenko, told investigators that she warned him it was not a good idea, adding that he was an immature boy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-man-at-walmart-says-he-was-testing-right-to-bear-arms/ar-AAFxBg0?ocid=spartanntp

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 03:03 AM
Jesus.

In first two posts i quoted you, you thought he broke the law. Then you said he broke no laws.

Seriously, again, you have the poorest reading comprehension skills here. You're literally retarded. It's ridiculous.

This has been explained to you that I put forth an argument based on wrong assumption. Then, my following arguments line up with the correction.

I know you want to cuck it up on my time, but pull yourself together, incel.

ElNono
08-10-2019, 03:04 AM
If the ask why he was wearing body armor, he can say because he was afraid to go to Walmart without protection

Andreychenko said his intention was to buy grocery bags. The rifle had a loaded magazine inserted, but a round was not chambered. A handgun on his right hip was loaded with one round in the chamber.

He said he bought the rifle and body armor because of three recent shootings and a stabbing, and said he wanted to protect himself.

:lol

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 03:30 AM
Reasonable doubt tbh.

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 03:32 AM
Andreychenko said his intention was to buy grocery bags. The rifle had a loaded magazine inserted, but a round was not chambered. A handgun on his right hip was loaded with one round in the chamber.

He said he bought the rifle and body armor because of three recent shootings and a stabbing, and said he wanted to protect himself.

:lol

So, following the law is a "terror threat"?

You can argue that the law(s) is (are) poor; but I don't see how he broke the law.

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 03:33 AM
So, following the law is a "terror threat"?

You can argue that the law(s) is (are) poor; but I don't see how he broke the law.Are you flipping again or is it flopping now?

It's getting hard to keep track.

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 03:36 AM
Are you flipping again or is it flopping now?

It's getting hard to keep track.

Are you blaking again or is it chumping now?

It's getting hard to keep track. J/K; it's lashing out either way. :lmao

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 03:39 AM
Are you blaking again or is it chumping now?

It's getting hard to keep track. J/K; it's lashing out either way. :lmaoNo, I'm asking you straight up what you think of this individual's actions.

Well?

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 04:25 AM
No, I'm asking you straight up what you think of this individual's actions.

Well?

Plenty of my thoughts in this thread already. Feel free to review.

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 04:26 AM
Plenty of my thoughts in this thread already. Feel free to review.Thjat's just it -- You've been all over the map on this one.

Just post your actual thoughts at this point.

You are free to flip-flop again later. It's expected.

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 04:33 AM
Thjat's just it -- You've been all over the map on this one.

Just post your actual thoughts at this point.

You are free to flip-flop again later. It's expected.

:lmao Playing cuckball.
:lmao Running with your bestie's failed narrative.

pgardn
08-10-2019, 07:47 AM
You'd think it would be if you're gonna attribute arguments I'm not making to me. Yet you always fail, Less Than Blake.

:lmao

Oh...
Screaming God is Great has no implied meaning whatsoever in your argument.
Go back and read Again.
You started with it fool, you just have no idea how to finish

Blake fetish alert.

pgardn
08-10-2019, 07:54 AM
White Christian terrorists? Were these shooters yelling God is great?

Nice philo, Less Than Blake.

Also, :lol at you sperm shielding for muzzies.

Right here.
Like this makes a difference.
“Muslim terrorist worse, yelling things I don’t like.”

And an earlier Blake fetish alert.

tenbeersbold
08-10-2019, 05:53 PM
What are those restrictions, derp?

Let's talk about those.

Please cite the laws to which you are referring.

Thanks in advance.

MAYBE just maybe try and think for yourself...

Why guns????

The amount of people who die from mass shootings fluctuates every year from the high teens to maybe a tad over a hundred

This pales in comparison to say opioid deaths which number around 30,000-40,000 per year the last few years

Car accidents kill another 70,000 a year

Hell being fat wipes out 300,000 people a year

But yet there is no public SJW/twitterverse to ban cars and candy bars and oxycontin????

Which cause far more death and destruction.

Why because there's no agenda behind candy bars but there sure as hell is one behind banning guns

Christ even of the average 30-40,000 firearm deaths in the USA a whopping two thirds are suicides!!!

So less than 12,000 Americans die from gunfire on avg every year

ElNono
08-10-2019, 06:05 PM
So, following the law is a "terror threat"?

You can argue that the law(s) is (are) poor; but I don't see how he broke the law.

I don't think he broke any law. That was my contention from the get go. We're on the same page here, and I would agree there's a slippery slope if we start treating these cases as 'terror'.

That's why I said the NRA is probably very interested in making sure Mississippi courts don't set a precedent on this.

ElNono
08-10-2019, 06:09 PM
Question for spurraider21 or vy65. The prosecution claims that this is akin to yelling "fire" or "bomb" on a crowded place, a well known 1st Amendment exception.

However, this is perhaps the purest exercise of the 2nd Amendment right, and, as we know, no right is above the other. What do you guys make of this?

I don't think he can be criminally liable for exercising his right. He might be civilly liable to Walmart, or an 'alter the peace' style misdemeanor towards the city.

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 06:46 PM
MAYBE just maybe try and think for yourself...

Why guns????

The amount of people who die from mass shootings fluctuates every year from the high teens to maybe a tad over a hundred

This pales in comparison to say opioid deaths which number around 30,000-40,000 per year the last few years

Car accidents kill another 70,000 a year

Hell being fat wipes out 300,000 people a year

But yet there is no public SJW/twitterverse to ban cars and candy bars and oxycontin????

Which cause far more death and destruction.

Why because there's no agenda behind candy bars but there sure as hell is one behind banning guns

Christ even of the average 30-40,000 firearm deaths in the USA a whopping two thirds are suicides!!!

So less than 12,000 Americans die from gunfire on avg every year
Hey, another deflection!

Spurtacular
08-10-2019, 06:50 PM
Hey, another deflection!

Sucks that he hit you with arguments that you hated, amirite?

Pavlov
08-10-2019, 06:55 PM
Sucks that he hit you with arguments that you hated, amirite?

He had no argument at all except he never wants to talk about gun violence ever unless it's the blacks of course.

You ever get around to denouncing the El Paso shooting?

I'm calling you out.

Express an actual opinion or fold.

Trainwreck2100
08-11-2019, 10:19 AM
So that firefighter getting charged or what? He pulled a gun on some guy in a parking lot

DMC
08-11-2019, 11:08 AM
MAYBE just maybe try and think for yourself...

Why guns????

The amount of people who die from mass shootings fluctuates every year from the high teens to maybe a tad over a hundred

This pales in comparison to say opioid deaths which number around 30,000-40,000 per year the last few years

Car accidents kill another 70,000 a year

Hell being fat wipes out 300,000 people a year

But yet there is no public SJW/twitterverse to ban cars and candy bars and oxycontin????

Which cause far more death and destruction.

Why because there's no agenda behind candy bars but there sure as hell is one behind banning guns

Christ even of the average 30-40,000 firearm deaths in the USA a whopping two thirds are suicides!!!

So less than 12,000 Americans die from gunfire on avg every year

Aside from being the victim of a car accident, the other things you mention are self imposed hazards. Having a crowd of people killed while shopping in the largest corporate retailer in the US, that's legislation generating shit. You cannot legislate choice, and the things you mentioned are choice, with basically known risks (accidents not withstanding). Shopping at Walmart isn't supposed to be a risk (other than shitty merchandise and seeing white trash).

DMC
08-11-2019, 11:10 AM
So that firefighter getting charged or what? He pulled a gun on some guy in a parking lot

Wonder if he was a plumber if they even mention his profession.

Thread
08-11-2019, 12:16 PM
MAYBE just maybe try and think for yourself...

Why guns????

The amount of people who die from mass shootings fluctuates every year from the high teens to maybe a tad over a hundred

This pales in comparison to say opioid deaths which number around 30,000-40,000 per year the last few years

Car accidents kill another 70,000 a year

Hell being fat wipes out 300,000 people a year

But yet there is no public SJW/twitterverse to ban cars and candy bars and oxycontin????

Which cause far more death and destruction.

Why because there's no agenda behind candy bars but there sure as hell is one behind banning guns

Christ even of the average 30-40,000 firearm deaths in the USA a whopping two thirds are suicides!!!

So less than 12,000 Americans die from gunfire on avg every year

That little tidbit put the stopper in the bottle on Tapper's round table this morning...just some grumblings & mutterins' & they went to break to sell wampum.

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:02 PM
He had no argument at all except he never wants to talk about gun violence ever unless it's the blacks of course.

You ever get around to denouncing the El Paso shooting?

I'm calling you out.

Express an actual opinion or fold.

Well IT IS Black people that are responsible for killing BLACK people right about at a 95% average

The rest is BS and SJW deflection as the FACTS as collected by every damn statistical State and Fed agency,Justice Dept etc confirm and are readily available to confirm.

The National Review has a series of really eye opening articles on poverty concerning white/black majority differences

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/which-party-can-we-blame-for-poverty-and-crime/


(https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/which-party-can-we-blame-for-poverty-and-crime/)https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/


Did you know the poorest county in America is Owsley County in Kentucky??
It's topped the most poverty stricken place in the USA for years

It has the second-highest level of child poverty in the country. Almost a quarter of the population under the age of 65 is classified as having a disability. It is 98 percent white. It is an overwhelmingly Republican county

There’s a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two-thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service.

Owsley County’s median household income is half of Baltimore’s, and its poverty rate is 70 percent higher, but it has a violent crime rate that not only is radically lower than Baltimore’s but much lower than the national average.

(https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/)

Pavlov
08-11-2019, 07:05 PM
Well IT IS Black people that are responsible for killing BLACK people right about at a 95% average

The rest is BS and SJW deflection as the FACTS as collected by every damn statistical State and Fed agency,Justice Dept etc confirm and are readily available to confirm.

The National Review has a series of really eye opening articles on poverty concerning white/black majority differences

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/which-party-can-we-blame-for-poverty-and-crime/


(https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/which-party-can-we-blame-for-poverty-and-crime/)https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/


Did you know the poorest county in America is Owsley County in Kentucky??
It's topped the most poverty stricken place in the USA for years

It has the second-highest level of child poverty in the country. Almost a quarter of the population under the age of 65 is classified as having a disability. It is 98 percent white. It is an overwhelmingly Republican county

There’s a great deal of drug use, welfare fraud, and the like, but the overall crime rate throughout Appalachia is about two-thirds the national average, and the rate of violent crime is half the national average, according to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service.

Owsley County’s median household income is half of Baltimore’s, and its poverty rate is 70 percent higher, but it has a violent crime rate that not only is radically lower than Baltimore’s but much lower than the national average.

(https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/)So don't worry about terrorist attacks with assault type weapons at all?

Is this your advice?

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:07 PM
Aside from being the victim of a car accident, the other things you mention are self imposed hazards. Having a crowd of people killed while shopping in the largest corporate retailer in the US, that's legislation generating shit. You cannot legislate choice, and the things you mentioned are choice, with basically known risks (accidents not withstanding). Shopping at Walmart isn't supposed to be a risk (other than shitty merchandise and seeing white trash).

Well tbh I don't see any reason to ban guns based on a yearly fluctuating mass shooting total of 15 to 100 people
Because that's the actual numbers we're talking about.

And when I lived in the US,I avoided Walmart and its ilk just for those reasons,same way I avoided bad neighborhoods in the cities I lived in
It's really just statistics,if you do the math you know what/where to avoid

Pavlov
08-11-2019, 07:08 PM
Well tbh I don't see any reason to ban guns based on a yearly fluctuating mass shooting total of 15 to 100 people
Because that's the actual numbers we're talking about.So don't worry about terrorist attacks with assault type weapons at all?

Is this your advice?

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:15 PM
So don't worry about terrorist attacks with assault type weapons at all?

Is this your advice?

Ummm yeah because if you run the percentages,its so infinitesimal it shouldn't be remotely on anyone's radar

Sorry but actually I only deal in facts here,no prejudices or Twitterverse fantasies at all

Cmon now tell me...of the 300 million plus people that live in the USA what are your chances of being one of the on average of 24 people killed yearly by mass shootings since 1982???

I'll do the math for you

IT'S 0.000008%

https://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:19 PM
That little tidbit put the stopper in the bottle on Tapper's round table this morning...just some grumblings & mutterins' & they went to break to sell wampum.

Emotions in motion is what I call most media reporting these days....

Facts just aren't sexy enough I guess...
Victimhood on the other hand...

Pavlov
08-11-2019, 07:31 PM
Ummm yeahMuslims too?

OK. Seems pretty stupid to just let Muslim terror run wild because you don't want to worry about it.

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:38 PM
Muslims too?

OK. Seems pretty stupid to just let Muslim terror run wild because you don't want to worry about it.

Umm the math doesn't lie or discriminate,it is what it is

Fact is in the USA Black inner city neighborhoods are far more dangerous than Muslims

Pavlov
08-11-2019, 07:40 PM
Umm the math doesn't lie or discriminate,it is what it is

Fact is in the USA Black inner city neighborhoods are far more dangerous than MuslimsSo don't worry about Muslims one little bit. Be afraid of the blacks because you're in black inner city neighborhoods all the time.

Got it.

tenbeersbold
08-11-2019, 07:44 PM
So don't worry about Muslims one little bit. Be afraid of the blacks because you're in black inner city neighborhoods all the time.

Got it.

I guess the "last word" is your kinda deal so please do have at it..
But yeah the facts prove that overwhelmingly Black inner city neighborhoods are by far the most dangerous places in the USA
As measured by homicides,gun deaths,rapes,robberies,burglaries,assaults etc

Thread
08-11-2019, 08:00 PM
Emotions in motion is what I call most media reporting these days....

Facts just aren't sexy enough I guess...
Victimhood on the other hand...

Tell it, 10. Testify!!!

pgardn
08-11-2019, 09:14 PM
I guess the "last word" is your kinda deal so please do have at it..
But yeah the facts prove that overwhelmingly Black inner city neighborhoods are by far the most dangerous places in the USA
As measured by homicides,gun deaths,rapes,robberies,burglaries,assaults etc

Why is the TSA even present anymore?
I want to get on my flight quickly.

Good news folks.
You are more likely to die in Somalia than in the US.
Sleep tight.

DMC
08-11-2019, 09:17 PM
Well tbh I don't see any reason to ban guns based on a yearly fluctuating mass shooting total of 15 to 100 people
Because that's the actual numbers we're talking about.

And when I lived in the US,I avoided Walmart and its ilk just for those reasons,same way I avoided bad neighborhoods in the cities I lived in
It's really just statistics,if you do the math you know what/where to avoid

It's not the numbers but the political hay that can be made immediately following a mass shooting. Prime example is on this forum - nary discussion about guns or banning them until a mass shooting, then give it a week and the talk shifts to whomever tweeted last.

Pavlov
08-11-2019, 09:28 PM
DMC doesn't care about Chicago.

Or really anything since he never talks about topics unless someone else brings it up.