2020 blue wave

[RandomGuy]

2020 is shaping up to be as bad for Republicans as 2018, and likely worse.

First article, and I will guess that most conservatives won't bother reading the whole thing. Just a hint: it doesn't quite say what you think it does. If you don't look beyond the headline, you are doing yourself a disservice.

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Texas Is Bracing for a Blue Wave in 2020. Yes, Texas.
Why Republicans are getting very nervous about maintaining their stranglehold on the Lone Star State.

...

“The tectonic plates shifted in Texas in 2018,” Senator John Cornyn, the powerful Republican who’s facing reelection in 2020 (with just a 37 percent approval rating) said earlier this year. Cornyn has been sounding the alarms ever since November, warning national Republicans against complacency and spelling out the dire consequences for his party if they can’t stave off the Democratic surge: “If Texas turns back to a Democratic state, which it used to be, then we’ll never elect another Republican [president] in my lifetime,” said Cornyn.

A confluence of events over the past couple of weeks has reinforced Cornyn’s message. In what giddy Democrats are calling “the Texodus,” four Republican members of Congress announced, in short order, that they won’t be running for reelection in 2020; three of their seats, all in the suburbs, will likely go Democratic, adding to the two they took from Republicans in 2018. “We could see other representatives step away too,” said Manny Garcia, executive director of the Texas Democratic Party. “Why would you go into a knockdown, drag-out fight when you’re either going to lose next time, or soon afterward?”

While the Texodus was underway, Republican infighting—the latest episode in a long-running battle between conservatives and the hard right—hit the headlines in the most embarrassing of ways. Republican House Speaker Dennis Bonnen was caught on tape by prominent right-wing activist Michael Quinn Sullivan crudely insulting several lawmakers, while rattling off a “hit list” of insufficiently conservative Republicans he wanted to be taken out in primaries next year. (Democrats filed suit earlier this week, alleging that Bonnen broke state law and violated campaign-finance regulations in the process.)

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Cal Jillson, a venerable political scientist at Southern Methodist University, is among those who think this president has accelerated the Democratic comeback in Texas. “My sense pre-Trump was that there were demographic dynamics that were going to bring two-party competition at some point,” he said. “I thought it would take another 15 to 20 years. But Trump has brought all that forward. It’s happening much more quickly.”

...Texas Democrats were giving Latinos and young whites no reason to engage. That started to change in 2012, when Gilberto Hinojosa, a former judge, was elected party chair. “He wanted a progressive, aggressive institution,” said Manny Garcia, who became one of the new hires charged with “creating a Democratic brand” where there was none, and moving the party into the twenty-first century. Texas Democrats now have full-blown data and digital operations; they’re raising more money online than any state party in the country, Garcia said, while plotting “the largest coordinated campaign in the history of Texas” for 2020. The party’s efforts have been aided considerably by voter-engagement groups like Jolt and Texas Rising, which have focused on Latinos and young voters and helped to send voter registration and turnout soaring; from 2014 to 2018, Texas added some 1.8 million new voters, the majority of them women and people of color. The party estimates that “there’s 30,000 to 50,000 Democrats who arrive in the state every month,” according to Garcia, and now—at last—they’re being asked to register, vote, and run for office.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154723/texas-bracing-blue-wave-2020-yes-texas

Mostly jibes with what I see happening on the ground.

I'll post a bit more here as data comes in. I will emphasize, once again, that Trump's win in 2016 was a narrow one, and he is less popular now than he was then, with the added headwind of an energized Democratic party.

[hater]

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[Monostradamus]

:lmao the annual “Texas is going blue! No, seriously, this time it really is!” bullshit tour has arrived.

Texas is never going blue. Get it through your stupid heads. Stop acting like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

[hater]

https://i.imgur.com/LnUChXD.jpg

[Spurminator]

Donald Trump has a positive approval rating in Texas, and there aren't any statewide candidates like Beto 2018 to make things close.

Texas as a swing state ain't happening next year.

[Pavlov]

Probably more gains in the suburbs, but there are still enough rubes and racists in Texas to keep the state red.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao the annual “Texas is going blue! No, seriously, this time it really is!” bullshit tour has arrived.

Texas is never going blue. Get it through your stupid heads. Stop acting like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

Texas will become blue, with the only question being when. The GOP in the state will implode much as it did in California, for almost the exact same reasons. As the article noted, the generational shift has been likely accelerated by a few years. I have personally seen the effects.

Going to guess you didn't quite read the article either. The state is already becoming more competitive. The Texodus is the canary in the coal mine.

I would expect the 6 point margin of the last presidential election to be narrowed a bit.

In the meantime, I will continue volunteering time and money for voter registration and get out the vote initiatives.

[RandomGuy]

Donald Trump has a positive approval rating in Texas, and there aren't any statewide candidates like Beto 2018 to make things close.

Texas as a swing state ain't happening next year.

Correct. If you had read the article, it says as much.

What will happen in 2020 is that the GOP will lose a few more seats in Congress, and the Democratic party will flip a few more representatives in Austin. That is indicative of the cracks in the dam.

[CosmicCowboy]

https://bluewaveboats.com/content/home/PureBayHome.jpg

Finally, a decent topic from RG...

[RandomGuy]

Probably more gains in the suburbs, but there are still enough rubes and racists in Texas to keep the state red.

Pretty much. Keep in mind... 30,000 to 50,000 new residents each month, mostly Democrats, pushing out into new housing developments.

A few gains to be sure, but Cornyn pretty much said the same thing I have here. Once the flip happens it will virtually end the GOP's chances at the presidency.

As the article noted, Republicans just can't register enough new voters to hold back the tide.

Texas is reverting to the mean in terms of percentage though. I expect that, especially after El Paso, to continue, which does not augur well for the Trump party.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/12/07/texas-voter-turnout-sixth-highest-increase-2018-midterms/

[Pavlov]

Pretty much. Keep in mind... 30,000 to 50,000 new residents each month, mostly Democrats, pushing out into new housing developments.

A few gains to be sure, but Cornyn pretty much said the same thing I have here. Once the flip happens it will virtually end the GOP's chances at the presidency.

As the article noted, Republicans just can't register enough new voters to hold back the tide.

Texas is reverting to the mean in terms of percentage though. I expect that, especially after El Paso, to continue, which does not augur well for the Trump party.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/12/07/texas-voter-turnout-sixth-highest-increase-2018-midterms/Agreed. If Republicans keep demonizing Mexicans it could happen sooner.

[RandomGuy]

https://bluewaveboats.com/content/home/PureBayHome.jpg

Finally, a decent topic from RG...

Howdy there OM. I will be adding a bit more as more data comes in. Just wanted to put it up there for a subscribed thread.

[RandomGuy]

Agreed. If Republicans keep demonizing Mexicans it could happen sooner.

That is pretty much what doomed the California GOP.

Bonner is about to be tossed and replaced with someone likely to pander to more "bathroom" bills that will play well with the extremists that dominate GOP primaries, but continue to alienate voters.

It is a matter of time before they come up with their version of Prop 187. They can't help themselves.

[DMC]

Texas will become blue, with the only question being when. The GOP in the state will implode much as it did in California, for almost the exact same reasons. As the article noted, the generational shift has been likely accelerated by a few years. I have personally seen the effects.

Going to guess you didn't quite read the article either. The state is already becoming more competitive. The Texodus is the canary in the coal mine.

I would expect the 6 point margin of the last presidential election to be narrowed a bit.

In the meantime, I will continue volunteering time and money for voter registration and get out the vote initiatives.

This is fucking retarded. The Earth will be 500 degrees Celsius. It's only a matter of when.

Your thread title says 2020. That's your cutoff, sweetheart.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seriously... why does the left think it's perfectly OK to illegally cross the border and abruptly move to another country without major consequences?


Answer: It's because the left wants their votes.

[DC23]

Trump is going to win reelection quite easily. The Dems do not have a strong candidate. Biden? Ha!

[Millennial_Messiah]

A few gains to be sure, but Cornyn pretty much said the same thing I have here. Once the flip happens it will virtually end the GOP's chances at the presidency.

but then the entire upper Midwest goes Republican... pretty much all significant white majority states outside of New England

[Pavlov]

DMC leads with the usual ignorant troll non-statement.

[DMC]

https://bluewaveboats.com/content/home/PureBayHome.jpg

Finally, a decent topic from RG...

Over priced boat tbh. You don't see many of these along the Texas coast except during the holiday weekends when the 2 times a year middle class dipshit and his BIL show up to fish with shrimp and croakers around public piers and jetties. The rest of the time, in the water that matters, you see the Haynie, Transcat and SCB type rigs.

[ducks]

Probably more gains in the suburbs, but there are still enough rubes and racists in Texas to keep the state red.

Yes only racist vote red no racist ever vote blue!
Has nothing to do with disagreeing with socialism

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/g46xV.png

[DarrinS]

:lmao @ hater

[RandomGuy]

This is fucking retarded. The Earth will be 500 degrees Celsius. It's only a matter of when.

Your thread title says 2020. That's your cutoff, sweetheart.

Sorry, but no. Thread title is meant more for the national environment.

[RandomGuy]

DMC leads with the usual ignorant troll non-statement.

Pretty much.

[Millennial_Messiah]

OP ignores my post mapping how the GOP can win the presidency longterm without Texas or Zona

[DC23]

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/g46xV.png
I live in AZ. It's becoming more liberal here because all the dems from California move here, but I'm not totally convinced the state has flipped yet.
Btw isn't it ironic - dems leave California for AZ because cost of living and taxes are too high yet maintain their political views of wanting to raise taxes and increase social services? I hate it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Over priced boat tbh. You don't see many of these along the Texas coast except during the holiday weekends when the 2 times a year middle class dipshit and his BIL show up to fish with shrimp and croakers around public piers and jetties. The rest of the time, in the water that matters, you see the Haynie, Transcat and SCB type rigs.

Yep. We use the SCB in tournaments.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/g46xV.png

No context, so no comment, other than "77,000".

Hard to know what you are trying to say if you don't spell it out.

[CosmicCowboy]

Over priced boat tbh. You don't see many of these along the Texas coast except during the holiday weekends when the 2 times a year middle class dipshit and his BIL show up to fish with shrimp and croakers around public piers and jetties. The rest of the time, in the water that matters, you see the Haynie, Transcat and SCB type rigs.

Yep. My friend and I use his SCB in tournaments. Missed this year because of knee surgeries.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I live in AZ. It's becoming more liberal here because all the dems from California move here, but I'm not totally convinced the state has flipped yet.
Btw isn't it ironic - dems leave California for AZ because cost of living and taxes are too high yet maintain their political views of wanting to raise taxes and increase social services? I hate it.

Just like all the Califaggots moving to Texas and spreading the LGBT and hipster culture like cancer and demanding the handouts they were used to getting in CA.

[Millennial_Messiah]

No context, so no comment, other than "77,000".

Hard to know what you are trying to say if you don't spell it out.

The whites become increasingly GOP and the the growing legion of Mexicans along the Southern border turn all the border states blue

Seems to be an increasing overall trend but not all of it favors the left.

At some point the left loses Massachusetts et al. due to extremely high white % pissed off with the left, and it's over.

[RandomGuy]

OP ignores my post mapping how the GOP can win the presidency longterm without Texas or Zona

There we go.

So the only way Republicans can win if they lose Texas is to run the board with every single swing state, with the loss of even one swing state being a loss overall.

Granted. That is indeed possible.

Highly unlikely, but possible.

Now what?

[RandomGuy]

The whites become increasingly GOP and the the growing legion of Mexicans along the Southern border turn all the border states blue

Seems to be an increasing overall trend but not all of it favors the left.

At some point the left loses Massachusetts et al. due to extremely high white % pissed off with the left, and it's over.

"whites become increasingly GOP".

You may want to check the polls on how young people view the GOP. Why don't you post one or two here to prove your point?

[Blake]

Over priced boat tbh. You don't see many of these along the Texas coast except during the holiday weekends when the 2 times a year middle class dipshit and his BIL show up to fish with shrimp and croakers around public piers and jetties. The rest of the time, in the water that matters, you see the Haynie, Transcat and SCB type rigs.


Yep. We use the SCB in tournaments.

Yep. Those mangy middle class boaters are such morons.

During tournament time, Jeeves and I use the Rolls with a V12 Evinrude.

[Pavlov]

Yes only racist vote red no racist ever vote blue!Most of the who vote vote Republican. You should be happy they do.

[Blake]

... 30,000 to 50,000 Democrats who arrive in the state every month,[/B]” according to Garcia,

Just curious, how many Republicans arrive each month?

[boutons_deux]

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/g46xV.png

Trump Closer To Doom As 8 Crucial Swing States Turn On Him

– New Hampshire: 40% approval, 57% disapproval (-17 net approval)

– Wisconsin: 41% approval, 55% disapproval (-14)

– Michigan: 42% approval, 54% disapproval (-12)

– Iowa: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Nevada: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Pennsylvania: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Arizona: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Ohio: 45% approval, 51% disapproval (-6)

– North Carolina: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Florida: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Georgia: 49% approval, 47% disapproval (+2)

– Texas: 51% approval, 45% disapproval (+6) :lol good 'ol Bible-humping shit-kickin' dirt-scratchin' Texas

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html)

[Monostradamus]

OP ignores my post mapping how the GOP can win the presidency longterm without Texas or Zona
How is Minnesota red?

[RandomGuy]

Just curious, how many Republicans arrive each month?

Article doesn't quite say. My guess is roughly numbers on par. Given where most are coming from, and where they are moving to, the balance would probably be Democratic. (setting aside non-aligned who are likely a good 1/3)

[RandomGuy]

Trump Closer To Doom As 8 Crucial Swing States Turn On Him

– New Hampshire: 40% approval, 57% disapproval (-17 net approval)

– Wisconsin: 41% approval, 55% disapproval (-14)

– Michigan: 42% approval, 54% disapproval (-12)

– Iowa: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Nevada: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Pennsylvania: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Arizona: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Ohio: 45% approval, 51% disapproval (-6)

– North Carolina: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Florida: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Georgia: 49% approval, 47% disapproval (+2)

– Texas: 51% approval, 45% disapproval (+6) :lol good 'ol Bible-humping shit-kickin' dirt-scratchin' Texas

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html)

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/08/12/12-electoral-map-2020.w700.h467.jpg
Trump’s State-by-State Approval Ratings Should Scare the MAGA Out of Him
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trumps-state-by-state-approval-ratings-should-scare-him.html

[RandomGuy]

How is Minnesota red?

It's not. Which is why the fantasy about losing Texas but still being able to win the presidency is highly unlikely.

[Millennial_Messiah]

How is Minnesota red?

It was almost red in 2016. Very high white population, smarty pants. They're turning red. Newton's 3rd law, buddy. Let all the mexicans flood in thru the south and not everyone is going to be happy about it.

[Monostradamus]

It was almost red in 2016. Very high white population, smarty pants. They're turning red. Newton's 3rd law, buddy. Let all the mexicans flood in thru the south and not everyone is going to be happy about it.
Minnesota isn’t remotely close to going red, dipshit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I admit I dislike the Bible and Christianity and I hate to align myself with the religious nutcases across the country but between them and communist utopian dystopianism they are by far the lesser of the two evils... the left is trying to create a Harrison Bergeron society

[Millennial_Messiah]

Minnesota isn’t remotely close to going red, dipshit.

MN was awfully close to going red in 2016, dipshit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Trump Closer To Doom As 8 Crucial Swing States Turn On Him

– New Hampshire: 40% approval, 57% disapproval (-17 net approval)

– Wisconsin: 41% approval, 55% disapproval (-14)

– Michigan: 42% approval, 54% disapproval (-12)

– Iowa: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Nevada: 43% approval, 54% disapproval (-11)

– Pennsylvania: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Arizona: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)

– Ohio: 45% approval, 51% disapproval (-6)

– North Carolina: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Florida: 48% approval, 49% disapproval (-1)

– Georgia: 49% approval, 47% disapproval (+2)

– Texas: 51% approval, 45% disapproval (+6) :lol good 'ol Bible-humping shit-kickin' dirt-scratchin' Texas

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/06/trump-closer-to-doom-as-8-crucial-swing-states-turn-on-him.html)

sub 50 percent approval =/= losing

[TimDunkem]

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/attachments/political-issues-discussion/179713d1505438147-hillary-clinton-has-second-new-book-img_5359.png

You meme like a senior citizen.

A fucking Uber Humor watermark. Jesus Christ.

[Monostradamus]

MN was awfully close to going red in 2016, dipshit.
With the shittiest Dem candidate in history who completely ignored the state. And she still won.

[Blake]

I admit I dislike the Bible and Christianity and I hate to align myself with the religious nutcases across the country but between them and communist utopian dystopianism they are by far the lesser of the two evils... the left is trying to create a Harrison Bergeron society

No nutcase here ^

[RandomGuy]

Minnesota isn’t remotely close to going red, dipshit.

Richard Nixon was the last Republican to win. FWIW.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_Minnesota

Trump came within 2% against the most dislike Democratic candidate in a generation.

[RandomGuy]

I admit I dislike the Bible and Christianity and I hate to align myself with the religious nutcases across the country but between them and communist utopian dystopianism they are by far the lesser of the two evils... the left is trying to create a Harrison Bergeron society

No, we are not.

That is what the right-wing propaganda machine says, but, as usual, it is a bit too self-serving to be credible.

The number of outright "communists" on the left is vanishingly small, and the rest is hyperbole.

[boutons_deux]

I posted here somewhere that said the Repugs have spent more money for Trash in TX so far than anywhere else, so they must agree, know that Trash is in trouble even in shithole TX.

[RandomGuy]

You meme like a senior citizen.

A fucking Uber Humor watermark. Jesus Christ.

:lol Saw that.

[RandomGuy]

Yep. We use the SCB in tournaments.

You probably missed this gem in the news this morning:
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/3022648/trump-linked-theme-park-indonesia-drops-chinese-cash-trade

So Trump announces heavy sanctions on Huawei. Chinese agree to loan hundreds of millions to the Indonesia project his organization is to manage.

Trump withdraws sanctions on Huawei.

Trump announces massive new Chinese tarriffs. Chinese loans are canceled for the Indonesian project.

Tip of the shitberg.

[RandomGuy]

The whites become increasingly GOP and the the growing legion of Mexicans along the Southern border turn all the border states blue

Seems to be an increasing overall trend but not all of it favors the left.

At some point the left loses Massachusetts et al. due to extremely high white % pissed off with the left, and it's over.

Maybe next you will be claiming white millennials are abandoning the Democratic party.
https://hillreporter.com/fake-walkaway-ads-feature-images-of-people-from-shutterstock-4319
:lmao

[in2deep]

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/attachments/political-issues-discussion/179713d1505438147-hillary-clinton-has-second-new-book-img_5359.png

:lmao

[hater]

You meme like a senior citizen.

A fucking Uber Humor watermark. Jesus Christ.

And you post like a homo. Clown

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe next you will be claiming white millennials are abandoning the Democratic party.
https://hillreporter.com/fake-walkaway-ads-feature-images-of-people-from-shutterstock-4319
:lmao

They will, just like the Woodstock era / Hippie boomer / Vietnam protest / Early feminism radical left wing generation abandoned the left in droves by the end of the 70s.

[baseline bum]

Texas will become blue, with the only question being when.

When the GOP stops being the Jim Crow white identity party and the Democrats take it back like they were pre-Roosevelt.

[baseline bum]

Seriously... why does the left think it's perfectly OK to illegally cross the border and abruptly move to another country without major consequences?


Answer: It's because the left wants their votes.

The right thinks it's OK too. If they didn't they wouldn't have voted in a guy who hires illegals when they had plenty of other conservative choices in their primaries.

[ducks]

So base wanted the right to elect Clinton and not trump
Lol

Of all 17 republican candidates trump made the most sense

[DMC]

Sorry, but no. Thread title is meant more for the national environment.

Bullshit. You're stuck now.

[DMC]

DMC leads with the usual ignorant troll non-statement.

Chum dumper with the usual "need a friend for the night" chum line hoping to gather some responses all through the night. Going to be another long night for you.

[baseline bum]

So base wanted the right to elect Clinton and not trump
Lol

Of all 17 republican candidates trump made the most sense

Yeah a guy who hires illegals running on a platform centered on condemning illegal immigration makes all the sense in the world.

[boutons_deux]

When the GOP stops being the Jim Crow white identity party and the Democrats take it back like they were pre-Roosevelt.

slave state TX Dems were always racists, just like the rest of the Dems in the Confederate South. Jim Crow was in full force in East TX, and of course Texans and Texas Rangers have killed Mexicans with impunity. Brown lives don't matter.

TX Dems eventually went along switched to be racist Repugs as part of the Nixon/Ailes/Atwater Southern Strategy.

[DarrinS]

When the GOP stops being the Jim Crow white identity party and the Democrats take it back like they were pre-Roosevelt.

The GOP is currently the mid-90's Dem party. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

No, we are not.

That is what the right-wing propaganda machine says, but, as usual, it is a bit too self-serving to be credible.

The number of outright "communists" on the left is vanishingly small, and the rest is hyperbole.

It gets scary when the left politicizes man-made warming/rising sea levels/deforestation as an excuse for population control. And the population they want to "control" are those that vote against them. They don't seem to have a problem with the illegal Latin American immigrant families with 12 kids that will do a lot more "global warming" than a white family with 2-3 kids. But the big difference is, 12 votes for the Dems vs. 3 for the GOP (when they all turn 18) is a major deal.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The right thinks it's OK too. If they didn't they wouldn't have voted in a guy who hires illegals when they had plenty of other conservative choices in their primaries.

The conservative choices were mostly duds. A right-libertarian would have been nice. Maybe weed would have been legalized too and they'd have a chokehold on states like Colorado & put Oregon in play, for example. But the same old religious right was worse and more boring than Trump and I think that's what the voters identified from the start. They wanted a break from the Bush/McCain/Romney/McConnell types.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The GOP is currently the mid-90's Dem party. :lol

& the Bernie/Warren brand on the left is the party of Lenin.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's not. Which is why the fantasy about losing Texas but still being able to win the presidency is highly unlikely.

Okay, I'll give you Minnesota. Even without taking back Arizona:

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/r46BX.png

[Reck]

LMAO do you really think the Chrises and Darrin's of Texas are going to allowed a Democrats in there? They'd put Roy Moore in there if it came to that.

Something even Alabama couldn't stomach to do. lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Yep. Those mangy middle class boaters are such morons.

During tournament time, Jeeves and I use the Rolls with a V12 Evinrude.

And you still just caught hardheads.

[DMC]

And you still just caught hardheads.

ladyfish for him and event those would probably cheat on him.

[BD24]

:lmao the annual “Texas is going blue! No, seriously, this time it really is!” bullshit tour has arrived.

Texas is never going blue. Get it through your stupid heads. Stop acting like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.
Texas will eventually become blue due to the changing demo and influx of people from blue states.

It won’t happen in 2020 though, probably not in 2024 either for that matter. Maybe 2028 though. We will see

[Pavlov]

Chum dumper with the usual "need a friend for the night" chum line hoping to gather some responses all through the night. Going to be another long night for you.DMC with another vacuous attempt at a personal insult just proving he has zero to say about any actual topic.

[Chucho]

LMAO do you really think the Chrises and Darrin's of Texas are going to allowed a Democrats in there? They'd put Roy Moore in there if it came to that.

Something even Alabama couldn't stomach to do. lol


You're stereotyping the entire state. Texas is becoming what California once was before it went down the can, the Republican population is being overtaken by educated migrants moving into a booming state economy. Smarter people live there and they might "allowed" it in future elections.

[ElNono]

There’s one of these alleged ‘waves’ prognosticate before every election, even though we’re all aware the odds are generally remote. Better to temper expectations, and be realistic.

[Thread]

There’s one of these alleged ‘waves’ prognosticate before every election, even though we’re all aware the odds are generally remote. Better to temper expectations, and be realistic.

Especially after the old man threw Clinton down a flight of stairs & wrecked her shit.

[Splits]

Especially after the old man threw Clinton down a flight of stairs & wrecked her shit.

That's Fredo's shit.

Get your own shit.

[Thread]

That's Fredo's shit.

Get your own shit.

CC threatened it, the old man actually did it.

[Splits]

CC threatened it, the old man actually did it.


FBI arrests Ohio teen for online threats and finds 25 firearms, 10,000 rounds of ammo

Aug. 14, 2019, 1:09 AM GMT+2By David K. Li
The FBI arrested an 18-year-old from Ohio for making online threats — including against the federal government and Planned Parenthood — and found a large cache of weapons, authorities said.

When agents raided the Boardman, Ohio, house where Justin Olsen was living they recovered 15 rifles, 10 semi-automatic pistols and roughly 10,000 rounds of ammunition, according to a criminal complaint written by FBI Special Agent Themistocles Tsarnas and seen by NBC News.

Olsen, who wrote under the name "ArmyOfChrist," was charged Monday with one count of threatening to assault a federal law enforcement officer.
"ArmyOfChrist discussed supporting mass shootings, and assault and/or targeting of Planned Parenthood," according to Tsarnas.

Assistant Mahoning County Prosecutor Michael McBride decided authorities had to act swiftly on the threats in the wake of the recent mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, NBC affiliate WFMJ reports (http://www.wfmj.com/story/40908087/feds-boardman-threat-suspect-used-screen-name-armyofchrist).

The case against Olsen began earlier this year when FBI agents in Anchorage, Alaska, working in a chat room called "iFunny," found a user named ArmyOfChrist making threatening comments.

That user wrote online that he supported the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the shootings of ATF agents at the siege of the Branch Davidians compound in Waco, Texas, in 1993.

"Hell even the Oklahoma City bombing shows that armed resistance is a viable method of political change. There is no legal solution," ArmyofChrist wrote on Aug. 6, according to the complaint. "In conclusion, shoot every federal agent on sight."

Agents raided his place of residence, described in the complaint as his father's home, on Aug. 7 and found a large number of guns and bullets throughout the house and in a gun vault in Olsen's room.

Sounds like your offspring

[KenMcCoy]

When agents raided the Boardman, Ohio, house where Justin Olsen was living they recovered 15 rifles, 10 semi-automatic pistols and roughly 10,000 rounds of ammunition, according to a criminal complaint written by FBI Special Agent Themistocles Tsarnas and seen by NBC News.


Pretty tame numbers. He needs to work on it some more...

[Thread]

Sounds like your offspring

& yet Madonner, in broad daylight threatens to blow up the WH & the F.B.I. lifts nary a finger.

Just shows ta go ya.

[Thread]

Pretty tame numbers. He needs to work on it some more...

...& absolutely nothing illegal.

[Splits]

& yet Madonner, in broad daylight threatens to blow up the WH & the F.B.I. lifts nary a finger.

Just shows ta go ya.

Tell us more about your affinity for Koresh and McVeigh

[weebo]

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/attachments/political-issues-discussion/179713d1505438147-hillary-clinton-has-second-new-book-img_5359.png

:lmao

[DMC]

DMC with another vacuous attempt at a personal insult just proving he has zero to say about any actual topic.

What do you think? Be specific.

[DMC]

Pretty tame numbers. He needs to work on it some more...

Yeah that's pretty pedestrian among some circles.

[Thread]

Tell us more about your affinity for Koresh and McVeigh

They thought they was walkin' away from that.

They were wrong.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/15/751365915/trump-camp-thinks-new-hampshire-is-winnable-in-2020

Trump campaign looking to expand the battleground states, building infrastructure in a few normally blue states. New Mexico, Nevada and New Hampshire

A bit more here, if you don't want or can't listen to the above piece:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/04/trump-campaign-2020-election-map-1352437

[Thread]

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/15/751365915/trump-camp-thinks-new-hampshire-is-winnable-in-2020

Trump campaign looking to expand the battleground states, building infrastructure in a few normally blue states. New Mexico, Nevada and New Hampshire

A bit more here, if you don't want or can't listen to the above piece:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/04/trump-campaign-2020-election-map-1352437

We've been trying to move into NV. & NM. for decades & it keeps moving away from us. He's got the money though and perhaps it's a diversion to make the Dems defend those blue states,,,keep them out of AZ. & TX..

[RandomGuy]

They will, just like the Woodstock era / Hippie boomer / Vietnam protest / Early feminism radical left wing generation abandoned the left in droves by the end of the 70s.

Not really how it works. Voters tend to be more conservative as they age, but party identity is remarkably sticky.

The Southern Strategy of appealing to racists had as much to do with the Republican surge as anything, and we are seeing the after effects of that today, Spencer, Duke, King, et al.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/partisan-loyalty-begins-at-age-18/

https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-47910


But making the case to older voters for Democrats is super easy. Most have not saved enough for retirement so are hugely dependent on Social Security.

Republicans run on gutting these programs entirely.

The script writes itself. Trump swore up and down he wouldn't touch SS or Medicare, and broke that promise when the Republican controlled congress presented him with the first opportunity to do so.

[RandomGuy]

We've been trying to move into NV. & NM. for decades & it keeps moving away from us. He's got the money though and perhaps it's a diversion to make the Dems defend those blue states,,,keep them out of AZ. & TX..

We are already in Texas, as the article in the OP notes.

The organization and experience we built in 2018 will be the starting point for our 2020 efforts, so we are a couple of steps ahead of where we were organizationally then. I can speak from first-hand experience in one of the counties that flipped our state rep in Austin.

[Thread]

We are already in Texas, as the article in the OP notes.

The organization and experience we built in 2018 will be the starting point for our 2020 efforts, so we are a couple of steps ahead of where we were organizationally then. I can speak from first-hand experience in one of the counties that flipped our state rep in Austin.

I know that. He's trying to retard that entrenchment though.

[Splits]

They thought they was walkin' away from that.

They were wrong.

Is "they" your heroes, or government agents who's deaths you celebrate?

[RandomGuy]

There’s one of these alleged ‘waves’ prognosticate before every election, even though we’re all aware the odds are generally remote. Better to temper expectations, and be realistic.

Waves are not predicted in every election. There are always some cheerleaders on both sides doing that, but the data rarely backs that up. A interesting topic to be sure though, hence the thread title.

Last election was predicted to be a wave year, and it was not quite by most analysis, with RCP being about par for what I read, i.e. a GOOD year, but not a full wave:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/16/so_was_it_a_wave_138677.html

Second terms rarely see any president win MORE votes/states than they did in the first term, and Trump is decidedly less popular than he was in 2016. 2020 will see a highly energized, organized opposition as well.

Still way too far out to really call, other than fivethirtyeights generic ballot, which is a pretty fair predictor:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/

The last election saw an eight point lead with attendant results, and that lead was pretty consistent.
Currently running D+6, with the caveat that is is very, very early, and very few polls have yet to be done, so there is a lot of variability.

My guess is that turnout will be vastly higher than 2016, and that will not favor the GOP, and make a true 1:1 comparison to 2018 a bit harder. Trump will be on the ballot, for good or ill.

[Thread]

Is "they" your heroes, or government agents who's deaths you celebrate?

Asked & answered.

[RandomGuy]

I know that. He's trying to retard that entrenchment though.

retard... your word not mine, but yeah I would describe Trumps campaign that way. :lol

[Thread]

retard... your word not mine, but yeah I would describe Trumps campaign that way. :lol

I hoped, but, I feared you'd stoop at that term. Act like somebody.

[Splits]

Asked & answered.

I can only assume your being obtuse about your affinity and past praise of your heroes Koresh, McVeigh, and Nichols et al is due to a dude with your exact same rhetoric getting snatched by the Feds for it.

[RandomGuy]

Okay, I'll give you Minnesota. Even without taking back Arizona:

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/r46BX.png

Again, possible, but unlikely. Your map shows a margin of TWO EC votes. Two. Any ONE state lost in your selection means a loss for the Trump party.

To which I say: 77,000 or less than 1% of three states that trump is currently trailing well behind. Trump won the presidency by that minimal margin of popular vote in three states.

Many of the states you have listed here as red are tossup states that are close to 50/50. So you are, pretty much saying that the Trump party can win if a series of coin tosses all come up heads.

Five coin tosses all coming up heads = 1/32
Six is 1/64
Seven is 1/128


Election analytics website FiveThirtyEight identifies the states of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin as "perennial" swing states that have regularly seen close contests over the last few presidential campaigns.

Twelve potential swing states. To be fair NH is blue on your map, as is NV.

As I said, possible, but unlikely. Don't take my word for it, take Cornyn's. Hopefully Beto will drop out and run against him. Would love to pick up that seat. :D

[RandomGuy]

Bullshit. You're stuck now.

Stuck with your strawman?

That is about your only real trick. Strawman something to death, and when called on it, repeat the strawman, as if, in repetition, it is true the 100th time when it wasn't true the first.

Seems about par for the course for conservatives in general. Find a strawman, and stick with it for cheap points for the faithful.

[Pavlov]

What do you think? Be specific.DMC proving he didn't read any posts in the thread.:tu

[Thread]

I can only assume your being obtuse about your affinity and past praise of your heroes Koresh, McVeigh, and Nichols et al is due to a dude with your exact same rhetoric getting snatched by the Feds for it.

---"Hello, FBI tip line? Yes, I'd like to report a guy out in Arizona who is talking against the FBI particularly in the Waco event. He's old, white, ED'ed, & loves Koresh. I don't know if he's armed, but, I believe he is & heavily so. If you can stop trying to overthrow 45 long enough to send a unit of agents and 50k lbs of equipment to his front yard I think it'd be worth your while. Thank you."

[Splits]

---"Hello, FBI tip line? Yes, I'd like to report a guy out in Arizona who is talking against the FBI particularly in the Waco event. He's old, white, ED'ed, & loves Koresh. I don't know if he's armed, but, I believe he is & heavily so. If you can stop trying to overthrow 45 long enough to send a unit of agents and 50k lbs of equipment to his front yard I think it'd be worth your while. Thank you."

Speak your mind, Dale. Tell us all about your Koresh. There's no such thing as a thought crime.

[RandomGuy]

There's no such thing as a thought crime.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yPxsTkoSnwg/VrpVjbMNs3I/AAAAAAAAeFU/xVG4kGtMVdY/s1600/377220e6f4934dbfc351d6a8e7074d5a.jpg

[Thread]

Speak your mind, Dale. Tell us all about your Koresh. There's no such thing as a thought crime.

The F.B.I. finally have Tom Barkley's balls back. Gonna act like somebody. No more of that sneaking around trying to okey doke 45.

They look like a hundred bucks.

Big shots.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/15/751365915/trump-camp-thinks-new-hampshire-is-winnable-in-2020

Trump campaign looking to expand the battleground states, building infrastructure in a few normally blue states. New Mexico, Nevada and New Hampshire

A bit more here, if you don't want or can't listen to the above piece:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/04/trump-campaign-2020-election-map-1352437

Those "blue" states haven't been blue for all that long; GWB won all 3 of them

[Millennial_Messiah]

Twelve potential swing states. To be fair NH is blue on your map, as is NV.


As is CO and MN. Not to mention AZ and TX are blue on my map, which if the former is red, allows Trump to lose another swing state; whereas winning Texas would allow Trump to lose 3-4 swing states depending on which ones.

CO for example is a staunchly libertarian state, but not distinctly libertarian-left like Washington/Seattle. They will go for whichever party presents the most opportunities to enhance or defend freedoms at the given time. For awhile now it's been the Dems because of gay marriage, marijuana and abortion, but Colorado loves their guns, so if that becomes a real talking point the Dems can easily drop CO, and possibly NV on top of that.

[RandomGuy]

Those "blue" states haven't been blue for all that long; GWB won all 3 of them

2018-1988 = 30 years

[Thread]

2018-1988 = 30 years

"Doesn't it go by in a blink?"

[Millennial_Messiah]

2018-1988 = 30 years

GWB, not GHWB.

so, 14 years.

If you want to go back to GHWB, now that was a true landslide... he even won California and Illinois and dominated in New Jersey. And won a substantial chunk of the Northeast. Weird thing was how Iowa was so liberal back then. Makes you just realize how you can't really predict anything too far into the future.

https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/timeline/margin-of-victory/maps/1988_mov.png

[RandomGuy]

"Doesn't it go by in a blink?"

Certainly did for me. Holy fuckballs.

[RandomGuy]

GWB, not GHWB.

so, 14 years.

If you want to go back to GHWB, now that was a true landslide... he even won California and Illinois and dominated in New Jersey. And won a substantial chunk of the Northeast. Weird thing was how Iowa was so liberal back then. Makes you just realize how you can't really predict anything too far into the future.

https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/timeline/margin-of-victory/maps/1988_mov.png

Ah sorry. I misunderstood.

That was definitely before the GOP in California imploded by demonizing Hispanics, who turned on them after being initially somewhat split. The same California that today has seven more electoral college votes than it did then.

Map has definitely gotten a lot bluer since 1988. It's almost like something is changing... :D

[boutons_deux]

A state voting for GHWB does meant anything beyond that, esp not that the entire state was, is red.

The Congressional contingent and state legislatures determine color

[baseline bum]

Many of the states you have listed here as red are tossup states that are close to 50/50. So you are, pretty much saying that the Trump party can win if a series of coin tosses all come up heads.

Five coin tosses all coming up heads = 1/32
Six is 1/64
Seven is 1/128

Come on RG, this is the same logic that made so much of the media claim Hillary was a lock rather than somewhat of a favorite. Battleground states aren't independent coin flips.

[DMC]

"Doesn't it go by in a blink?"

Meet Joe Black?

[Thread]

Meet Joe Black?

Yep. The old D comes thru in the end!

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ah sorry. I misunderstood.

That was definitely before the GOP in California imploded by demonizing Hispanics, who turned on them after being initially somewhat split. The same California that today has seven more electoral college votes than it did then.

Map has definitely gotten a lot bluer since 1988. It's almost like something is changing... :D
Agree on the Hispanic part. The GOP blew their chance and were absolute dumbasses to not realize the demographic trend in its early stages and bend over backwards to win them over, just as FDR had done the blacks way back when. Illegal immigration is wrong, but it's absolutely ignorant to separate families and such and treat them like second rate citizens, especially considering they would go on to procreate more than twice as much as whites, and of course those kids would eventually grow up and turn 18 and vote......... duh?

The Hispanics are still on average fairly devout Catholic and generally a right wing people, so it's not out of the realm of possibility the GOP can win a majority of them back in the next few decades or so, but it will take significant time (likely 20+ years) since a lot of damage has already been done, especially with Romney, Mitch etc. and then Trump's comments.

Map in 1988 was red mainly because Reagan was perceived as having done an excellent job, very high approval rating, even around 50/50 with registered Democrats. Map wasn't so red in 1976 not too long after Watergate. Details matter.

[RandomGuy]

Come on RG, this is the same logic that made so much of the media claim Hillary was a lock rather than somewhat of a favorite. Battleground states aren't independent coin flips.

The overall odds in Hillary's favor were roughly 60% or so if memory serves. It was a reasonable assumption based on what we knew. Improbable events do happen and 40% chance events still happen 4 times out of 10.

You are correct about swing states not being pure coin tosses, but the analogy is still valid. They are swing states because they are close enough to go either way depending on a lot of fairly random (HA) factors that make it hard to predict with any real degree of certainty, just like a coin toss.

Given the same incomplete data, some assumptions are sort of a given. Simply because the black swan event happened, doesn't mean that the data was wrong or the conclusion based on that data was unreasonable.

[RandomGuy]

Come on RG, this is the same logic that made so much of the media claim Hillary was a lock rather than somewhat of a favorite. Battleground states aren't independent coin flips.

On a mildly related note, an interesting analysis of the battle of Midway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo

From what the Japanese knew, their responses were pretty logical. Interesting analysis.

[RandomGuy]

Agree on the Hispanic part. The GOP blew their chance and were absolute dumbasses to not realize the demographic trend in its early stages and bend over backwards to win them over, just as FDR had done the blacks way back when. Illegal immigration is wrong, but it's absolutely ignorant to separate families and such and treat them like second rate citizens, especially considering they would go on to procreate more than twice as much as whites, and of course those kids would eventually grow up and turn 18 and vote......... duh?

The Hispanics are still on average fairly devout Catholic and generally a right wing people, so it's not out of the realm of possibility the GOP can win a majority of them back in the next few decades or so, but it will take significant time (likely 20+ years) since a lot of damage has already been done, especially with Romney, Mitch etc. and then Trump's comments.

Map in 1988 was red mainly because Reagan was perceived as having done an excellent job, very high approval rating, even around 50/50 with registered Democrats. Map wasn't so red in 1976 not too long after Watergate. Details matter.

The kids in my wifes mostly hispanic high school classes are MAD.

Bashing immigrants who tend to be overwhelmingly central american or hispanic has lost an entire generation, and that will not come back.

The overwhelming white and racist Republican base that votes consistently will not let moderates encouraging favorable reforms through primaries.

The gerrymandering done by the GOP has made too many districts into non-competitive ones, so this racist litmus test will remain one of the defining characteristics of many Republican candidates.

Those kids in my wife's classes get the message loud and clear.

[baseline bum]

The overall odds in Hillary's favor were roughly 60% or so if memory serves. It was a reasonable assumption based on what we knew. Improbable events do happen and 40% chance events still happen 4 times out of 10.

You are correct about swing states not being pure coin tosses, but the analogy is still valid. They are swing states because they are close enough to go either way depending on a lot of fairly random (HA) factors that make it hard to predict with any real degree of certainty, just like a coin toss.

Given the same incomplete data, some assumptions are sort of a given. Simply because the black swan event happened, doesn't mean that the data was wrong or the conclusion based on that data was unreasonable.

RG man, you're all over the board calling it 60/40 one time and a black swan event the next. The analogy only works if the votes are independent, which they aren't. Trump roughly won two coin flips: the rust belt and Florida. And that's why he's president. And even then the two are still still have plenty of correlation through immigration fears and white identity.

[baseline bum]

On a mildly related note, an interesting analysis of the battle of Midway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo

From what the Japanese knew, their responses were pretty logical. Interesting analysis.

面白い。後で見ると思いる。

[RandomGuy]

Hmmm. My gut still says Warren. First few grumblings out of Iowa point that way.

it will be, at the very least Not Biden.

[boutons_deux]

Hmmm. My gut still says Warren. First few grumblings out of Iowa point that way.

it will be, at the very least Not Biden.

yep. Liz has both the fire and the ideas, the elocution to deliver, that none of the other milquetoasts have, except maybe Bernie.

Americans stupidly would rather continue safely to be FUCKED by the oligarchy and Capitalism than try something "dangerously" different.

I think the DNC and its $100Ms will be too powerful to overcome.

Even if a progressive wins the Dem nomination,

the DNC/establishment would not push hard for the progressive to win since their own power would be at risk.

Dem establishment would rather have Trash win again than lose their own power and privileges to progressives.

America is fucked and unfuckable.

btw, Liz's CFPB, before the Repugs gutted it, cost Wall ST $11B, so Wall St will spend $100Ms, $Bs, to keep Liz out of power.

[RandomGuy]

yep. Liz has both the fire and the ideas, the elocution to deliver, that none of the other milquetoasts have, except maybe Bernie.

Americans stupidly would rather continue safely to be FUCKED by the oligarchy and Capitalism than try something "dangerously" different.

I think the DNC and its $100Ms will be too powerful to overcome.

Even if a progressive wins the Dem nomination,

the DNC/establishment would not push hard for the progressive to win since their own power would be at risk.

Dem establishment would rather have Trash win again than lose their own power and privileges to progressives.

America is fucked and unfuckable.

btw, Liz's CFPB, before the Repugs gutted it, cost Wall ST $11B, so Wall St will spend $100Ms, $Bs, to keep Liz out of power.




Warren I think would be the right candidate for a lot of reasons.

The generic poll is widening a bit, not that that means anything this far out.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

[boutons_deux]

Warren I think would be the right candidate for a lot of reasons.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

The DNC and BigFinance, who lost an consumer-extractive $11B through Liz's CFPB in one year, will not let Liz win.

And BigFinance actually blocked Liz from running CFPB

[RandomGuy]

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/g46xV.png

Well here is the baseline for a blue wave, with Trump losing all the states where he won narrowly, assuming no other changes.


https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/dQr4n.png

[RandomGuy]

Add in Iowa and Ohio for a true wave election:

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/3oO7n.png

[RandomGuy]

Fun map.

Assume 2024 Texas becomes that swing state, and the Dems lose a few swing states.

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/Dbk63.png

[RandomGuy]

Fun to play with. I would not put much behind any of my guesses here, mostly just playing with scenarios.

[boutons_deux]

Dems winning WH and House will be useless without the Senate

Dems will not be able to fund rebuilding the govt that the Repugs have destroyed, and I don't think the Dems will try very hard.

[Thread]

Fun map.

Assume 2024 Texas becomes that swing state, and the Dems lose a few swing states.

https://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/Dbk63.png

You'll never get Texas, nor Arizona, nor Wisconsin, nor Florida where they were selling your shit.

We may even be able to snag MN., if we can keep those Muslim broads activated.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Yeah I eventually see the white-majority states up north keep trending right and the southern border states including Texas and Zona trending left. It's going to be a full on racial divide soon.

Labor unions no longer matter for Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn, etc. It's all about protecting the white race from usurpation and obsoletion.

[Thread]

Yeah I eventually see the white-majority states up north keep trending right and the southern border states including Texas and Zona trending left. It's going to be a full on racial divide soon.

Labor unions no longer matter for Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn, etc. It's all about protecting the white race from usurpation and obsoletion.

---BOTH SIDES---

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Electoral College Edge Could Grow in 2020, Rewarding Polarizing Campaign

Re-election looks plausible even with a bigger loss in the national popular vote.

A strategy rooted in racial polarization

could at once energize parts of the president’s base and rebuild support among wavering white working-class voters.

Many of these voters backed Mr. Trump in the first place in part because of his views on hot-button issues, including on immigration and race.

Alone, the president’s relative advantage in the Electoral College does not necessarily make him a favorite to win.

His approval rating is well beneath 50 percent in states worth more than 270 electoral votes, including in the Northern battleground states that decided the 2016 election.

And just because racial polarization could work to the president’s advantage in general doesn’t mean that his particular tactics will prove effective.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/upshot/trump-electoral-college-edge-.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/upshot/trump-electoral-college-edge-.html)

Racists, low-ed, low-wage, and Christian Taliban elected Trash to hurt people, what a fucking country.

[FrostKing]

Trump’s Electoral College Edge Could Grow in 2020, Rewarding Polarizing Campaign

Re-election looks plausible even with a bigger loss in the national popular vote.

A strategy rooted in racial polarization

could at once energize parts of the president’s base and rebuild support among wavering white working-class voters.

Many of these voters backed Mr. Trump in the first place in part because of his views on hot-button issues, including on immigration and race.

Alone, the president’s relative advantage in the Electoral College does not necessarily make him a favorite to win.

His approval rating is well beneath 50 percent in states worth more than 270 electoral votes, including in the Northern battleground states that decided the 2016 election.

And just because racial polarization could work to the president’s advantage in general doesn’t mean that his particular tactics will prove effective.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/upshot/trump-electoral-college-edge-.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/upshot/trump-electoral-college-edge-.html)

Racists, low-ed, low-wage, and Christian Taliban elected Trash to hurt people, what a fucking country.



Is your argument

A) Only Trump uses racial tactics
B) Trump uses more racial tactics
C) Trump is more effective at using racial tactics
D) Non-white demographic isn't yet large/united enough

[Pavlov]

Racists really like Trump.

[FrostKing]

Racists really like Trump.
Asian racists too?

[Thread]

Racists really like Trump.

Just like the racists liked Hussein when he was race baiting the countryside for 6 of his 8 years as big cheese.

"I'm going to be President for all Americans, black and white. I promise."

Travyon wanders along & Hussein got his mind right, stepped right into the ca-ca & the pee-pee. "If I had a son, instead of 2 daughters who missed nary branch falling down the ugly tree he'd look like Trayvon, when he was alive."

Then went and authorized the execution of Bin. And without so much as a preliminary hearing, or, trial. Just sent the boys over into a foreign country and killed him. Gee, I certainly hope Bin did it, otherwise Hussein will spend some time, a lot of time in hell.

[Pavlov]

Asian racists too?Sure. Mostly white racists.

[Thread]

Sure. Mostly white racists.

You wish,,,Hussein showed his racist bent during his Presidency. Gonna play it straight. Gonna do it right. Gonna be a man for all seasons, for all Americans. Ha, He shit the bed 1/2 way thru his first 4 years & wallowed in his mess the remainder of the 6 years. That SOB.

Hussein the punk racist.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Just like the racists liked Hussein when he was race baiting the countryside for 6 of his 8 years as big cheese.

"I'm going to be President for all Americans, black and white. I promise."

Travyon wanders along & Hussein got his mind right, stepped right into the ca-ca & the pee-pee. "If I had a son, instead of 2 daughters who missed nary branch falling down the ugly tree he'd look like Trayvon, when he was alive."

Then went and authorized the execution of Bin. And without so much as a preliminary hearing, or, trial. Just sent the boys over into a foreign country and killed him. Gee, I certainly hope Bin did it, otherwise Hussein will spend some time, a lot of time in hell.

Bush would have killed OBL if he had the chance. OBL financed 9/11, the end.

But I'm 100% with you on the Trayvon shit. And, Malia is ugly a-f just like her hideous mother.

[Thread]

Bush would have killed OBL if he had the chance. OBL financed 9/11, the end.

But I'm 100% with you on the Trayvon shit. And, Malia is ugly a-f just like her hideous mother.

You got any proof of that, or, is like the Russian proof that we can't see? "Trust us, it's there, but, we can't show you because of actors & methods."

Yeah, right. I wouldn't trust those motherfuckers any further than I could throw 'em.

[boutons_deux]

Dumping Texas voters’ favorite shortcut might hurt down-ballot candidates — and Democrats

Straight-ticket voting helped candidates down-ballot in 2018, and according to a new study, it helped Democrats, too. So Texas Republicans got rid of it.

The state’s decision to kill straight-ticket voting could cut turnout in down-ballot races in the 2020 elections — even if more voters show up to the polls.

Without straight-ticket voting — where voters register support for all of their parties’ candidates with a single vote — down-ballot candidates will have to win with the support of the relatively few voters who make it past the marquee contests.

Two-thirds of Texans voted straight ticket in 2018.

Democratic candidates depending on a growing base of voters may suffer,

the increased competitiveness of Democrats in many counties was abetted by straight-ticket voting.”

It’s not so much that Democrats were depending on straight tickets for their strength;

it’s that strong candidates at the top of the ticket — like Democrat Beto O’Rourke — were making it easier for the rest of the party’s candidates to win some votes.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/30/lost-texas-voters-shortcut-might-hurt-downballot-candidates-democrats/

[RandomGuy]

You'll never get Texas, nor Arizona, nor Wisconsin, nor Florida where they were selling your shit.

We may even be able to snag MN., if we can keep those Muslim broads activated.

Racism and white victimhood is a dead end.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/08/trump-2020-democrats-racism/596155/

It is amusing to see people like you who delude themselves into believing it is a winning strategy.


“I think the cost is, he doesn’t attract anybody new,” says Lynn Vavreck, a UCLA political scientist and a co-author of Identity Crisis, a book about the role of race in the 2016 presidential election. “And that could be a cost. The man won by 77,000 votes in three states. If African American turnout goes back to the Obama levels, he needs more voters. He could be fighting the last battle.”

Someone else ran the numbers. :D

[RandomGuy]

Dumping Texas voters’ favorite shortcut might hurt down-ballot candidates — and Democrats

Straight-ticket voting helped candidates down-ballot in 2018, and according to a new study, it helped Democrats, too. So Texas Republicans got rid of it.

The state’s decision to kill straight-ticket voting could cut turnout in down-ballot races in the 2020 elections — even if more voters show up to the polls.

Without straight-ticket voting — where voters register support for all of their parties’ candidates with a single vote — down-ballot candidates will have to win with the support of the relatively few voters who make it past the marquee contests.

Two-thirds of Texans voted straight ticket in 2018.

Democratic candidates depending on a growing base of voters may suffer,

the increased competitiveness of Democrats in many counties was abetted by straight-ticket voting.”

It’s not so much that Democrats were depending on straight tickets for their strength;

it’s that strong candidates at the top of the ticket — like Democrat Beto O’Rourke — were making it easier for the rest of the party’s candidates to win some votes.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/08/30/lost-texas-voters-shortcut-might-hurt-downballot-candidates-democrats/




Which is exactly why they did it, to defend weak unpopular candidates like Cruz.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao the annual “Texas is going blue! No, seriously, this time it really is!” bullshit tour has arrived.

Texas is never going blue. Get it through your stupid heads. Stop acting like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

Clinton/Trump spread: 5%

Cruz/Beto spread: 2.6%

Sorry long term trends aren't up to your instant gratification standards. "never" is a LONG time.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/attachments/political-issues-discussion/179713d1505438147-hillary-clinton-has-second-new-book-img_5359.png

Tell you what will happen.

Trumpites will claim "rigged" elections.

Trump will not concede gracefully, if at all.

I would consider it highly likely at that point, that the Trump cult will commit violence.

[RandomGuy]

fivethirtyeight Started tracking the generic ballot with a 5% spread, that has slowly widened to six and is now a bit shy of 7% spread.

Who is winning The Race For Congress?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

seven percent spread was the final spread for the 2018 wave.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-best-tool-for-predicting-midterm-elections-works-in-presidential-years-too/

[boutons_deux]

fivethirtyeight Started tracking the generic ballot with a 5% spread, that has slowly widened to six and is now a bit shy of 7% spread.

Who is winning The Race For Congress?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

seven percent spread was the final spread for the 2018 wave.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-best-tool-for-predicting-midterm-elections-works-in-presidential-years-too/

assume the Dems take the Senate, House, and WH.

I expect they, Nancy and Chuck, would do very little legislatively, but Pres Warren could clean out Exec branch of Repug/BigCorp filth

[RandomGuy]

assume the Dems take the Senate, House, and WH.

I expect they, Nancy and Chuck, would do very little legislatively, but Pres Warren could clean out Exec branch of Repug/BigCorp filth

Taking the Senate is an uphill battle, but 2020 offers the best shot that Democrats have had in a while.

[Reck]

Taking the Senate is an uphill battle, but 2020 offers the best shot that Democrats have had in a while.

Not if they keep talking about impeaching everyone they dont like. Impeach Trump, impeach Kavanaugh etc.

Dems need to calm down with their white knighting. Today alone we had half the candidates calling for Kavanaugh's impeachment. And you wonder why we're always losing.

If you want to win, you have to let somethings go. Kavanaugh is in there for life so stop being dumb cucks and focus on what they can actually do.

[RandomGuy]

Not if they keep talking about impeaching everyone they dont like. Impeach Trump, impeach Kavanaugh etc.

Dems need to calm down with their white knighting. Today alone we had half the candidates calling for Kavanaugh's impeachment. And you wonder why we're always losing.

If you want to win, you have to let somethings go. Kavanaugh is in there for life so stop being dumb cucks and focus on what they can actually do.

Stop standing on principle when potential crimes have been committed, for the sole purpose of political expediency?

Seems like "more of the same" to me. What if taking a principled stand is what wins elections?

[boutons_deux]

Taking the Senate is an uphill battle, but 2020 offers the best shot that Democrats have had in a while.

Without the Senate, the Dems in WH and House are screwed, never mind also screwed by the Federal judiciary.

[Reck]

Stop standing on principle when potential crimes have been committed, for the sole purpose of political expediency?

Seems like "more of the same" to me. What if taking a principled stand is what wins elections?

Yeah morality and principle won them 2016 and 2018.

Voting against Kavanaugh cost them at least 3 seats. Keep harping about impeachment though.

[florige]

Tell you what will happen.

Trumpites will claim "rigged" elections.

Trump will not concede gracefully, if at all.

I would consider it highly likely at that point, that the Trump cult will commit violence.



If he loses in 2020 he will literally have to be escorted off the WH property. This will be some reality show type debacle we would witness trying to get that clown to leave gracefully.

[boutons_deux]

If he loses in 2020 he will literally have to be escorted off the WH property. This will be some reality show type debacle we would witness trying to get that clown to leave gracefully.

and he'll leave the WH stinking of fast food

[RandomGuy]

If he loses in 2020 he will literally have to be escorted off the WH property. This will be some reality show type debacle we would witness trying to get that clown to leave gracefully.

He spends most of the time golfing or at Mar-A-Lago.

All you really have to do is change the locks... heh

[RandomGuy]

Brace for a Voter-Turnout Tsunami
Even with a surge in overall participation, white working-class voters could still remain decisive in the 2020 election

Signs are growing that voter turnout in 2020 could reach the highest levels in decades—if not the highest in the past century—with a surge of new voters potentially producing the most diverse electorate in American history.

But paradoxically, that surge may not dislodge the central role of the predominantly white and heavily working-class voters who tipped the three Rust Belt states that decided 2016: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Even amid a tide of new participation, those same voters could remain the tipping point of the 2020 election.

With Donald Trump’s tumultuous presidency stirring such strong emotions among both supporters and opponents, strategists in both parties and academic experts are now bracing for what Michael McDonald, a University of Florida political scientist who specializes in voting behavior, recently called “a voter turnout storm of a century in 2020.”

In a recent paper, the Democratic voter-targeting firm Catalist projected that about 156 million people could vote in 2020, an enormous increase from the 139 million who cast ballots in 2016. Likewise, Public Opinion Strategies, a leading Republican polling firm, recently forecast that the 2020 contest could produce a massive turnout that is also unprecedentedly diverse.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/2020-election-voter-turnout-could-be-record-breaking/591607/

I expect the march of Republican retirements to continue. Such an event would almost certainly favor Democrats, who have a lot more room on the upside for turnout rates.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao the annual “Texas is going blue! No, seriously, this time it really is!” bullshit tour has arrived.

Texas is never going blue. Get it through your stupid heads. Stop acting like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

Gonna bookmark this post. If you are still here in a few years, have fun eating your words, kid. No one ever said it was going to happen instantly, just that it was going to happen. Trump has helped make it happen a lot sooner.


American Migration Patterns Should Terrify the GOP
Millennial movers have hastened the growth of left-leaning metros in southern red states such as Texas, Arizona, and Georgia. It could be the biggest political story of the 2020s.

This drip-drip-drip of young residents trickling down into red-state suburbs is helping to turn southern metros into Democratic strongholds. (Of course, migration isn’t the only factor pushing these metros leftward, but more on that later.) In Texas, Democrats’ advantage in the five counties representing Houston, Dallas–Fort Worth, San Antonio, and Austin (the “Texas Five” in the graph below) grew from 130,000 in the 2012 presidential election to nearly 800,000 in the 2018 Senate election.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/american-migration-patterns-should-terrify-gop/598153/

[SnakeBoy]

You expected Hillary in the WH, Dem control of House and Senate, and liberal majority on the SC

So we'll see

[RandomGuy]

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2019/09/unnamed_1-1/7ca74be85.png


What’s remarkable about these changes isn’t just their size, but their resemblance to Trump’s 2016 margins. Trump won Texas in 2016 by 800,000 votes. He won Arizona by 90,000 votes. He won Georgia by 170,000 votes. If these states’ biggest metros continue to move left at the same rate, there is every reason to believe that Texas, Arizona, and Georgia could be toss-ups quite soon.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/american-migration-patterns-should-terrify-gop/598153/

[RandomGuy]

You expected Hillary in the WH, Dem control of House and Senate, and liberal majority on the SC

So we'll see

Hillary was the most probable winner based on what was known at the time. Don't really remember what I thought about the congress, but the next president was going to get to replace Scalia, so if that were Hillary, the SCOTUS pick was also fairly reasonable.

My thinking is influenced a lot by fivethrityeight, given their quant leanings.

I did tell you that 2018 was going to be a crushing defeat for the GOP in the house and that the Senate would likely stay in the GOP. The same indications and trends will flow into 2020 and will be worse for that intellectually and morally bankrupt party.

As I said before, after 2024, it will be increasingly hard for the GOP, due to migration and demographic trends. Once the Republican party loses Texas, the electoral college map will be almost impossible for a Republican nominee to win, no matter how much they cheat through gerrymandering, voter ID laws, and poll closings.

2020 will also see Democrats take out the long knives of having their turn to gerrymander in a lot of places.

[SnakeBoy]

Hillary was the most probable winner based on what was known at the time. Don't really remember what I thought about the congress, but the next president was going to get to replace Scalia, so if that were Hillary, the SCOTUS pick was also fairly reasonable.

My thinking is influenced a lot by fivethrityeight, given their quant leanings.

I did tell you that 2018 was going to be a crushing defeat for the GOP in the house and that the Senate would likely stay in the GOP. The same indications and trends will flow into 2020 and will be worse for that intellectually and morally bankrupt party.

As I said before, after 2024, it will be increasingly hard for the GOP, due to migration and demographic trends. Once the Republican party loses Texas, the electoral college map will be almost impossible for a Republican nominee to win, no matter how much they cheat through gerrymandering, voter ID laws, and poll closings.

2020 will also see Democrats take out the long knives of having their turn to gerrymander in a lot of places.

Predicting the opposition takes the House in the midterms when one party has full control doesn't make you Nostradamus.

Polls mean nothing right now. You need a candidate first. I don't see one that can lead you to the promised land but I didn't think Trump had a chance so we'll see.

[RandomGuy]

Predicting the opposition takes the House in the midterms when one party has full control doesn't make you Nostradamus.

Polls mean nothing right now. You need a candidate first. I don't see one that can lead you to the promised land but I didn't think Trump had a chance so we'll see.

I merely stick to the best data available, try to set aside confirmation bias as well as other known failings of humans when thinking about information, and never claim to be any kind of infallible arbiter of the future.

As for candidates:

We will see another flood of women candidates on the Democratic side, with the Republican party remaining solely a white male party. This will continue to happen up and down the ballot.

That is not a sustainable long term strategy for any party.

As for president, I am guessing Warren will get the nod. She will out populist Donald Trump and be universally reviled by Wall Street, a sure fire vote-getter these days.

[boutons_deux]

Trump and be universally reviled by Wall Street, a sure fire vote-getter these days.

money talks, and Trash already has $300M? then BigFinance, BigCorp, BigOil, (oligarchy) will give many $100Ms to defeat Warren

[SnakeBoy]

As for president, I am guessing Warren will get the nod. She will out populist Donald Trump and be universally reviled by Wall Street, a sure fire vote-getter these days.

If she wins she will also ensure that you see another GOP POTUS in your lifetime

[RandomGuy]

If she wins she will also ensure that you see another GOP POTUS in your lifetime

We'll get to see.

I have less confidence in your prognostication than you have in mine.

[boutons_deux]

The astounding advantage the Electoral College gives to Republicans, in one chart


In close elections, Republicans are favored to win even when they lose the popular vote.

“Republicans should be expected to win 65% of Presidential contests

in which they narrowly lose the popular vote.”

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/jvYWq-jk3jq-Xy_hbBf-_7UD5aY=/0x0:519x268/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:519x268):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19205189/EC_chart.png

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/17/20868790/republicans-lose-popular-vote-win-electoral-college (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/17/20868790/republicans-lose-popular-vote-win-electoral-college)

[RandomGuy]

If she wins she will also ensure that you see another GOP POTUS in your lifetime


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkM_NG6HkqY

[TSA]

Not if they keep talking about impeaching everyone they dont like. Impeach Trump, impeach Kavanaugh etc.

Dems need to calm down with their white knighting. Today alone we had half the candidates calling for Kavanaugh's impeachment. And you wonder why we're always losing.

If you want to win, you have to let somethings go. Kavanaugh is in there for life so stop being dumb cucks and focus on what they can actually do.

https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1174055299537416192

[boutons_deux]

...

[RandomGuy]

[miscellaneous twitter bullshit about corey lewendowski or however the fuck you spell it]

http://i.imgur.com/KCMkucT.jpg

[boutons_deux]

16th Republican quits the House so he can seek redder pastures back at home (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/17/1886068/-16th-Republican-quits-the-House-so-he-can-seek-redder-pastures-back-at-home)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1886068

[TSA]

http://i.imgur.com/KCMkucT.jpg

Completely relevant to the TDS I quoted forum dunce highlighting.

[SnakeBoy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1174055299537416192

Hilarious he used dumbass Nadler to launch his Senate campaign

[Reck]

Hilarious he used dumbass Nadler to launch his Senate campaign

Where is he running?

[RandomGuy]

Where is he running?

New Hampshire.

Presumedly against Janine Shaheen.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/lewandowski-senate-run-announcement-1501807
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_senators_from_New_Hampshire

[Reck]

New Hampshire.

Presumedly against Janine Shaheen.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/lewandowski-senate-run-announcement-1501807
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_senators_from_New_Hampshire

DOA campaign then.

Shaheen is well liked, is the incumbent, strong state for Dems and a momentum year for them as well.

This guy is the best thing that could happen to her in terms of getting re-elected going away.

[RandomGuy]

DOA campaign then.

Shaheen is well liked, is the incumbent, strong state for Dems and a momentum year for them as well.

This guy is the best thing that could happen to her in terms of getting re-elected going away.

Agreed.

If he gets the nod in the GOP primary, which he has yet to win. My guess is that with Captain Bonespurs' endorsement, he will get it though.

The theatrics that play well with the GOP base, don't work that well with independents. It will be fun seeing him get crushed like a bug.

[TheGreatYacht]

LEAKED: Who & What Trump Is Scared To Run Against

https://youtu.be/aGpip7D0yvs

[RandomGuy]

LEAKED: Who & What Trump Is Scared To Run Against

https://youtu.be/aGpip7D0yvs

Without watching: Biden

He is an idiot, so his opinion as to what/who counts for little, IMO. no offense.

[TheGreatYacht]

Without watching: Biden

He is an idiot, so his opinion as to what/who counts for little, IMO. no offense.

Wrong. You didn't watch. It's Bernie. The socislists. The squad. They live in his head 24/7. He dreads them. He fears them.

[RandomGuy]

Wrong. You didn't watch. It's Bernie. The socislists. The squad. They live in his head 24/7. He dreads them. He fears them.

ah. Ok.

[TheGreatYacht]

Out of touch CNN GOPer lectures Dems on how to beat Trump (By Abandoning The Left)

https://youtu.be/-GYCbS6m8PM

John T. Stankey (born 1962) is an American businessman who is the current CEO of WarnerMedia who owns CNN. Stankey donated $2,000 to Tennessee Republican Senate candidate Marsha Blackburn's successful 2018 election campaign.

FYI He's a Zionist Jew.

[baseline bum]

Out of touch CNN GOPer lectures Dems on how to beat Trump (By Abandoning The Left)

https://youtu.be/-GYCbS6m8PM

Always hilarious hearing the right lecture the Democrats on how they need to basically nominate Hillary again.

[TheGreatYacht]

Always hilarious hearing the right lecture the Democrats on how they need to basically nominate Hillary again.

John T. Stankey (born 1962) is an American businessman who is the current CEO of WarnerMedia who owns CNN. Stankey donated $2,000 to Tennessee Republican Senate candidate Marsha Blackburn's successful 2018 election campaign.

FYI He's a Zionist Jew.

[spurraider21]

John T. Stankey (born 1962) is an American businessman who is the current CEO of WarnerMedia who owns CNN. Stankey donated $2,000 to Tennessee Republican Senate candidate Marsha Blackburn's successful 2018 election campaign.

FYI He's a Zionist Jew.
link?

[RandomGuy]

Out of touch CNN GOPer lectures Dems on how to beat Trump (By Abandoning The Left)


Always cute when they attempt to peer outside their information bubble.

[TheGreatYacht]

link?

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/jewish-control-of-the-media-in-the-united-states-and-therefore-around-the-world.5249/

[Reck]

Careful, goyim.

Two words in and I had to click out of there. :lol

[spurraider21]

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/jewish-control-of-the-media-in-the-united-states-and-therefore-around-the-world.5249/
thank you for a link to a "jewish control of the media" thread in some random forum where a random forum poster described mr stankey as a jew, a fact we already knew.

you specifically called him a zionist, and have made a point (imo, one you dont really believe) that you distinguish between jew and zionists.

so where's the proof that mr stankey is not just a jew, but a zionist

[TheGreatYacht]

Two words in and I had to click out of there. :lol

Here's some more..
http://www.renegadetribune.com/do-they-control-the-media/
https://zogathome.wordpress.com/who-controls-att/

[spurraider21]

Here's some more..
http://www.renegadetribune.com/do-they-control-the-media/
https://zogathome.wordpress.com/who-controls-att/
great. more links to random blogs that refer to stankey as jewish

you specifically called him a zionist, and have made a point (imo, one you dont really believe) that you distinguish between jew and zionists.

so where's the proof that mr stankey is not just a jew, but a zionist

[TheGreatYacht]

thank you for a link to a "jewish control of the media" thread in some random forum where a random forum poster described mr stankey as a jew, a fact we already knew.

you specifically called him a zionist, and have made a point (imo, one you dont really believe) that you distinguish between jew and zionists.

so where's the proof that mr stankey is not just a jew, but a zionist

The proof is that CNN is always pushing Israel's wars. CNN is CIA and FBI propaganda. CNN fired that black reporter for telling the truth about Israel. That's my proof.


https://youtu.be/eLejq2Iuzro

[spurraider21]

The proof is that CNN is always pushing Israel's wars. CNN is CIA and FBI propaganda. CNN fired that black reporter for telling the truth about Israel. That's my proof.


https://youtu.be/eLejq2Iuzro
where is your proof that john stankey is a zionist

[TheGreatYacht]

2020 Election WIDE Open As Rust Belt Abandons Trump

https://youtu.be/s85NjkEZ8NU

[TheGreatYacht]

Very Clear & Simple Reasons To Vote Bernie Over Warren

https://youtu.be/ZZbJQx5fpcw

[Reck]

Very Clear & Simple Reasons To Vote Bernie Over Warren

https://youtu.be/ZZbJQx5fpcw

This is the part where the ultra progressives start to turn on someone the loved before. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

This is the part where the ultra progressives start to turn on someone the loved before. :lol

She's a shill. She'll be Obama 2.0 the moment she gets into office.

[Pavlov]

lol Bernie

[Spurtacular]

She's a shill. She'll be Obama 2.0 the moment she gets into office.

She's an uber progressive in Wreck's world.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bogus “Working Families Party” Endorsement Of Warren Exposed

https://youtu.be/xJyVTPX5F_c

[TheGreatYacht]

BOMBSHELL: Warren Used Sleazy Trick To Take Big Money In The Primary

https://youtu.be/tgUzfEszlEE

[RandomGuy]

Bogus “Working Families Party” Endorsement Of Warren Exposed

https://youtu.be/xJyVTPX5F_c

Tell me again why I should care?

Ah shit, Jimmy Dore. Stopped at ten seconds.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tell me again why I should care?

Ah shit, Jimmy Dore. Stopped at ten seconds.

Everything That’s Wrong With Elizabeth Warren

https://youtu.be/3LeFbqK2Pf8

[RandomGuy]

Everything That’s Wrong With Elizabeth Warren

https://youtu.be/3LeFbqK2Pf8

Another Jimmy Dore hit piece. Dude gives Trump way too much credit, and is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. In your own words man.

[RandomGuy]

Guess I'm not getting anything but Jewtube conspiracy channels.

Jeez. I didn't think I was asking for much.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah morality and principle won them 2016 and 2018.

Voting against Kavanaugh cost them at least 3 seats. Keep harping about impeachment though.

Guess we will get to test your theory. First bits of polling says you are wrong.

[RandomGuy]

Just like all the Califaggots moving to Texas and spreading the LGBT and hipster culture like cancer and demanding the handouts they were used to getting in CA.

93.5% Of Eligible Voters In Travis County Are Registered To Vote. That's A Record.
https://www.kut.org/post/935-eligible-voters-travis-county-are-registered-vote-thats-record

[Millennial_Messiah]

93.5% Of Eligible Voters In Travis County Are Registered To Vote. That's A Record.
https://www.kut.org/post/935-eligible-voters-travis-county-are-registered-vote-thats-record

a lot of people "register" to vote and don't actually turnout?

Me? I only "registered" to vote once, in 2012, voted for Mitt the Twit because he was better of the two evils, and haven't been an eligible voter anywhere in the USA since 2013. It's better that way, so I can't get picked for jury duty.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle Explains Exactly How The Left Wins & Gets Our Policies Implemented

https://youtu.be/S6Fo-cM-WVE

[DMC]

Guess I'm not getting anything but Jewtube conspiracy channels.

Jeez. I didn't think I was asking for much.

So antisemitic remarks are good left material now.

[DMC]

Kyle Explains Exactly How The Left Wins & Gets Our Policies Implemented

https://youtu.be/S6Fo-cM-WVE

You still selling hits to YTers?

[LkrFan]

Facebook is doing its part to help the Repugs stave off the 2020 Blue Wave
https://twitter.com/SaysHummingbird/status/1183862767666765824?s=19

[LkrFan]

AOC just retweeted this
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1183789521751724032?s=19

[pgardn]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2019/10/15/key-excerpts-secret-recording-house-speaker-dennis-bonnen/amp/

goodbye

[boutons_deux]

"That should be proof enough that Bonnen was an dope for falling into Sullivan’s trap,

something that should (but shockingly may not) cost Bonnen the speakership.

But consider the more serious strategic stupidity Bonnen demonstrated during the meeting.

Early on in the transcript, after considerable small talk, the men begin discussing next year’s election.

Bonnen expresses concern.

“I just think we’ve got to get through 2020, guarantee, if we try and hold this majority – which,

with all due respect to Trump, :lol

who I love, :lol

by the way –

he’s killing us in urban-suburban districts,” he said.

https://therivardreport.com/recording-transcript-shows-speaker-bonnen-to-be-both-hypocrite-and-political-dunce/

[boutons_deux]

Yes, Texas is a battleground: Millions more dollars flow into U.S. House races than in 2018 election

The spike reflects the intense early interest in Texas’ reemergence as a competitive state

the intense early interest in Texas’ reemergence as a competitive state after decades of GOP dominance,

along with continued turnover in its large congressional delegation.

Democrats are “pouring money into Texas” to bring their “extremist, leftist” views to the state. :lol

a stunning turnabout from Texas’ role as a political piggy bank more for the rest of the country than for its own native sons and daughters,

particularly in a presidential election year when candidates are keen to swoop in to fill up their campaign coffers.

Big chunks of money are now staying home — or coming in from elsewhere — as House contests for the 2020 cycle take off.

(https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/10/18/yes-texas-is-a-battleground-millions-more-dollars-flow-into-us-house-races-than-in-2018-election/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Bonnen+won+t+seek+reelection%2C+Trump+ and+O+Rourke+s+dueling+Texas+rallies%2C+Rick+Perry +s+legacy&utm_campaign=PoliticalPoints102219)https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/10/18/yes-texas-is-a-battleground-millions-more-dollars-flow-into-us-house-races-than-in-2018-election/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Bonnen+won+t+seek+reelection%2C+Trump+ and+O+Rourke+s+dueling+Texas+rallies%2C+Rick+Perry +s+legacy&utm_campaign=PoliticalPoints102219

is "extremist, rightist" shithole TX really in play?

[RandomGuy]

So antisemitic remarks are good left material now.

You try so hard and fail so... badly.

It's almost as if you can't understand it, but think you do.

[DMC]

You try so hard and fail so... badly.

It's almost as if you can't understand it, but think you do.

You're the poster child here for downhill slide into stupidity. Boutons will catch you once you hit bottom.

[RandomGuy]

You're the poster child here for downhill slide into stupidity. Boutons will catch you once you hit bottom.

If I am that dumb what does it say about you that you fail at any kind of valid critique of my posts, and are left with empty ad hominems?

Try harder.

[RandomGuy]

Democrats just pulled off a huge win, taking control of Virginia’s state legislature

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/5/20944109/virginia-elections-legislature-results-democrats

https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/getty/2019/3/30/1c3bbb55-49fa-48a7-823c-b0b625cb5db3-getty-1128064094.jpg?w=970&h=546&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format&q=70

https://wtvr.com/2019/11/05/democrats-have-taken-control-of-virginias-general-assembly-for-the-first-time-in-two-decades/

Big story here was turnout for Democrats.

[RandomGuy]

...

[boutons_deux]

What will KY Dems do with their control of govt?

same question if Dems take control in 2020 of Congress and Exec. (We know they will be blocked by Repug SCOTUS whores)

[RandomGuy]

Democratic Challenger Andy Beshear Upsets Republican Matt Bevin in Kentucky Gubernatorial Race

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/democratic-challenger-andy-beshear-upsets-republican-matt-bevin-in-kentucky-gubernatorial-race/

Big story here was turnout and the total swing from 2016.

Message to a certain Senator from Moscow... "you're next"

[RandomGuy]

What will KY Dems do with their control of govt?

same question if Dems take control in 2020 of Congress and Exec. (We know they will be blocked by Repug SCOTUS whores)

They will probably roll back some of the dumbest and more fascist things that the GOP did while they had control of the state government. Just a guess.

[Winehole23]

The centrist Dem thing to do is as little as possible, cowering in fear of the inevitable cries of "socialism" from the GOP.

[RandomGuy]

The centrist Dem thing to do is as little as possible, cowering in fear of the inevitable cries of "socialism" from the GOP.

That is indeed the normal thing to do. The party will have to face though, a surging progessive wing that does not give a shit about that particular cliched charge anymore. Trump's administration's radical policy positions and actions have allowed room for the left to pull.

We may actually have a discussion about things, because the Republican party has so overused the charge that is has lost its power. How much conservatives are, or are not, losing the narrative war, remains to be seen. It will be interesting to find out.

[boutons_deux]

They will probably roll back some of the dumbest and more fascist things that the GOP did while they had control of the state government. Just a guess.

iow, no progress, as the BigDollar corporatists Dems are not in any way progressive.

[boutons_deux]

a surging progessive wing

Multi-millionaire establishment Pelosi sniffs at The Squad as "what? just five? on twitter"?

And NY Schumer is totally owned by BigFinance.

And much of the rest of the 200+ Dems are the same.

Both parties are more retrograde, more conservative than their voters.

[boutons_deux]

Internet mocks Trump for big Kentucky loss with

#ByeByeBevin: ‘This is where you pretend you never met Bevin’

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/internet-mocks-trump-for-big-kentucky-loss-with-byebyebevin-this-is-where-you-pretend-you-never-met-bevin/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2897 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/internet-mocks-trump-for-big-kentucky-loss-with-byebyebevin-this-is-where-you-pretend-you-never-met-bevin/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2897)

[boutons_deux]

High Turnout of Smart Voters in Kentucky Terrifies Rand Paul

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5dc2eb32b88ffd0008eee9f0/master/w_727,c_limit/Borowitz-RandPaulKentucky.jpg

WASHINGTON —Surprisingly high turnout among smart voters in Kentucky on Tuesday has left Senator Rand Paul “terrified and shattered,” one of Paul’s aides has revealed.

As the election returns came in Tuesday night, it became clear that

intelligent voters, who had never played a prominent role in any of Senator Paul’s electoral contests, :lol

were making their feelings known in unprecedented numbers.

“What we were seeing was huge participation by voters who apparently both consume and comprehend verifiable facts,”

the senator’s aide said.

“As far as Rand Paul is concerned, this is the doomsday scenario.”

As the night wore on, the aide said, Paul stared at the Kentucky election returns on TV in a near-catatonic state, finally moaning,

“Where are all of these smart people coming from, damn it?”

The aide cautioned that it remains to be seen whether the heavy turnout of sentient Kentucky voters is a one-off fluke, but,

if it turns out to be a lasting trend,

“Rand Paul is going to have to find a dumber state.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/high-turnout-of-smart-voters-in-kentucky-terrifies-rand-paul (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/high-turnout-of-smart-voters-in-kentucky-terrifies-rand-paul)

[TheGreatYacht]

High Turnout of Smart Voters in Kentucky Terrifies Rand Paul

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5dc2eb32b88ffd0008eee9f0/master/w_727,c_limit/Borowitz-RandPaulKentucky.jpg

WASHINGTON —Surprisingly high turnout among smart voters in Kentucky on Tuesday has left Senator Rand Paul “terrified and shattered,” one of Paul’s aides has revealed.

As the election returns came in Tuesday night, it became clear that

intelligent voters, who had never played a prominent role in any of Senator Paul’s electoral contests, :lol

were making their feelings known in unprecedented numbers.

“What we were seeing was huge participation by voters who apparently both consume and comprehend verifiable facts,”

the senator’s aide said.

“As far as Rand Paul is concerned, this is the doomsday scenario.”

As the night wore on, the aide said, Paul stared at the Kentucky election returns on TV in a near-catatonic state, finally moaning,

“Where are all of these smart people coming from, damn it?”

The aide cautioned that it remains to be seen whether the heavy turnout of sentient Kentucky voters is a one-off fluke, but,

if it turns out to be a lasting trend,

“Rand Paul is going to have to find a dumber state.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/high-turnout-of-smart-voters-in-kentucky-terrifies-rand-paul (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/high-turnout-of-smart-voters-in-kentucky-terrifies-rand-paul)

I used like Rand Paul. He's become another Trump boot licker amd and a Zionist shill. He is NOTHING like his father Ron Paul.

[RandomGuy]

I used like Rand Paul. He's become another Trump boot licker amd and a Zionist shill. He is NOTHING like his father Ron Paul.

They are both idiots.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs intend to steal the governorship from the Dems

Senate president: Kentucky governor's race could be decided by state legislature

Kentucky Senate President Robert Stivers (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/columnists/2019/01/15/urban-rural-divide-robert-stivers-louisville-champion/2575280002/) threw another wrench into the state's razor-thin gubernatorial outcome late Tuesday night, saying that the legislature could decide the race.


Stivers' comments came shortly after Gov. Matt Bevin refused to concede to Attorney General Andy

Beshear (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2019/11/05/kentucky-governors-race-2019-andy-beshear-leads-incumbent-matt-bevin/4096321002/), who led by roughly 5,100 votes when all the precincts were counted.
“There’s less than one-half of 1%, as I understand, separating the governor and the attorney general,” Stivers said.

“We will follow the letter of the law :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

and what various processes determine.”

Stivers, R-Manchester, said based on his staff’s research, the decision could come before the Republican-controlled state legislature.

Under state law, Bevin has 30 days to formally contest the outcome once it is certified by the State Board of Elections.

Candidates typically ask for a re-canvass of voting machines and a recount first.

The last contested governor's race was the 1899 election of Democrat William Goebel

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/06/beshear-vs-bevin-legislature-could-decide-race-senate-president-says/4174103002/ (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/06/beshear-vs-bevin-legislature-could-decide-race-senate-president-says/4174103002/)

Trustworthy, honest, good-faith Repugs counting the votes? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

CNN Puffs Up Mayor Pete w/ Obama Comparison Segment

https://youtu.be/mWKMFoQltYI

[boutons_deux]

CNN Puffs Up Mayor Pete w/ Obama Comparison Segment

neither one is Jewish, so what's your problem?

[boutons_deux]

Matt Bevin becomes the latest red state Republican to find out you don't mess with teachers (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897629/-Matt-Bevin-becomes-the-latest-red-state-Republican-to-find-out-you-don-t-mess-with-teachers)

He insulted them,

he went after their pensions,

he blamed their activism for the death of a child, and,

as he was losing on election night, a tweet saying (https://twitter.com/JCPS_PR/status/1191908411014864897)

“Hey @MattBevin (https://twitter.com/MattBevin), we finally found something you can accurately blame the teachers for” went semi-viral.

“The teachers’ movement has energized Democrats in red states,

with record numbers of educators running for office.

But it may have had an even greater impact on Republican politics.

In primaries, it has picked off Republican legislators who opposed funding for teachers and schools.

And it has convinced conservative leaders that

voters, particularly suburban parents,

are looking for full-throated support, and open pocketbooks, for public education.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1897629 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1897629)

[TheGreatYacht]

neither one is Jewish, so what's your problem?


Both are fake progressives. Both are corporatists. That's my problem.

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh, they're both Zionists too

[koriwhat]

CNN Puffs Up Mayor Pete w/ Obama Comparison Segment

well, they both suck dick so... good comparison. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

BIG WIN For Ranked Choice Voting & State Dems!

https://youtu.be/0WLa4fcqV9k

[spurraider21]

10 candidates qualified for november debate :rolleyes

they need to trim the fat a lot quicker than they're doing

[RandomGuy]

10 candidates qualified for november debate :rolleyes

they need to trim the fat a lot quicker than they're doing

agreed. I think the first few primaries will do that. Once the candidate is finalized, I would expect a tidal wave of actual donations from grassroots. Once it crystallizes, I expect a massive effort to spring up virtually overnight.

Before then though, having a field of candidates to choose from steals oxygen from Golfy-McDumb's tweet shits, not a bad thing, IMO.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Should've been 5% all along. No need to keep the life support on.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Should've been 5% all along. No need to keep the life support on.

Dunno. Scale it up over time, let's dark horses that might not ordinarily be considered do their thing.

[ChumpDumper]

Dunno. Scale it up over time, let's dark horses that might not ordinarily be considered do their thing.Maybe. I'm just tired of seeing the same clown car lineup.