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Clipper Nation
09-03-2019, 09:01 PM
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Imagine giving this much money to a robotic game manager who can't do anything without McVay's instructions. He can't even call an audible unless McVay tells him which one to call first.

Blake
09-03-2019, 11:31 PM
Eh not the best thing but I get it.

What I don't get is that ridiculous Gurley contract

benefactor
09-04-2019, 08:21 AM
Eh not the best thing but I get it.

What I don't get is that ridiculous Gurley contract
The Gurley contract is less ridiculous now:lol

spurraider21
09-04-2019, 12:35 PM
i can see it. yeah, the system helps him a lot, and he gets coached up a lot, but you also have to imagine that he's absorbing it a la Brady. brady went from being a "system qb" to basically becoming the system.

Goff is very accurate, good not great arm, and good deep ball. makes more sense to set the market now than wait 2 years and set the market then

Kobe'sAchilles
09-04-2019, 12:51 PM
I think the quarterback position is going to plateau very soon as far as new records being set for salary. The only 2 guys who are going to receive a big payday anytime soon are Watson and Mahomes. Everybody else has either already been paid or are too old to realistically demand that kind of money (Brees, Rivers, Brady). It will be interesting to see what Baker and Darnold will demand from their teams if they pan out like everybody thinks they will.

Millennial_Messiah
09-04-2019, 01:22 PM
I think the quarterback position is going to plateau very soon as far as new records being set for salary. The only 2 guys who are going to receive a big payday anytime soon are Watson and Mahomes. Everybody else has either already been paid or are too old to realistically demand that kind of money (Brees, Rivers, Brady). It will be interesting to see what Baker and Darnold will demand from their teams if they pan out like everybody thinks they will.
hopefully Prescott isn't on the list, unless it's from another team, for example one of those shitty Florida teams.

I don't think Watson's performance justifies 30M+, but he'll likely get it because "the market" and Houston is a poorly run franchise.

Baker has the support system and talent around him to succeed. Also, Baker is better than Darnold. Darnold plays for a shitty franchise with a shitty offensive line and receivers, and has well below average arm strength. I don't think Darnold ever becomes an above average QB, though he's still a starter and will get overpaid.

Millennial_Messiah
09-04-2019, 01:26 PM
also, CN, what's your take on Wentz, and Wentz vs Goff?

spurraider21
09-04-2019, 03:02 PM
I think the quarterback position is going to plateau very soon as far as new records being set for salary. The only 2 guys who are going to receive a big payday anytime soon are Watson and Mahomes. Everybody else has either already been paid or are too old to realistically demand that kind of money (Brees, Rivers, Brady). It will be interesting to see what Baker and Darnold will demand from their teams if they pan out like everybody thinks they will.
QB salaries will plateau when the salary cap plateaus

its not only high end QB's that set the market. matt stafford, joe flacco, kirk cousins, derek carr were all "highest paid qbs in NFL history" at one point.

Chinook
09-07-2019, 01:45 AM
I'd really like to see a team who tries just drafting QBs every couple of years and developing them before letting them walk rather than constantly keeping mediocre or just good guys. Like how many teams would seriously fall apart without their QBs? Some for sure, but not as many as there are ridiculous contracts. And that's with teams often not really putting in the resources into depth at that position. Teams only draft a bunch of young QBs if they aren't panning out, and of course then you have shitty depth. And every time someone who already has a QB locked in drafts/develops a solid depth guy, they trade him off to a needy team and go back to having shitty depth themselves. Sure, that's good business in a way, especially if you aren't planning on paying the depth guy. But there are a number of times where the young player with his cheap contract might be the better building block than the good-but-not-great starter who still makes like $30 Million-plus a year for some reason.

Playing QB has to be easier than ever nowadays, but it seems like there's a lack of dark-horse title-winning ones. Something about the way most teams are developing the position is broken right now. There should be enough supply to drive down demand, not have demand explode like this. Maybe teams just need to trust their developmental staffs a lot more.

Millennial_Messiah
10-25-2019, 05:33 PM
3rd best team in the division tbh.

Millennial_Messiah
11-03-2019, 11:33 PM
3rd best team in the division tbh.

yep. 0-2 in the division, but with the performance of the NFC North today (0-4 against the AFC West) looks like the NFC West will surely get 2 in, with a shot at 3 depending on how the Panthers do.

Millennial_Messiah
11-08-2019, 03:37 PM
Is Goff even better than *backup* Mason Rudolph? We'll see on Sunday.

Millennial_Messiah
11-08-2019, 03:38 PM
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Millennial_Messiah
11-10-2019, 07:58 PM
Goff had a terrible game, but the refs really fucked them over.

Millennial_Messiah
11-10-2019, 08:00 PM
Clipper Nation any words?

Millennial_Messiah
11-11-2019, 12:00 AM
At least Prescott had a good game, unlike Gawful with his zero TDs and 3 turnovers :lol

Clipper Nation
11-26-2019, 01:26 AM
Pretty obvious at this point that Goff is trash. The league collectively needs to stop overpaying game managers. MLB teams finally learned how to be disciplined with their spending, how do NFL teams keep making the same mistakes over and over again?

The Gemini Method
11-27-2019, 01:35 PM
Goff is reverting back to FisherGoff. The mystery that is Gurley II is showing that paying Jared was a monumental mistake. Oh well, the last two years were fun while it lasted.