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CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 08:55 AM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?

Trill Clinton
09-05-2019, 09:12 AM
I think I'm the only open Christian here

CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 09:29 AM
I think I'm the only open Christian here

Hmmm. Southern Baptist?

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 09:45 AM
I go to church and I believe in its potential value to the community, but I'm agnostic when it comes to a literal view of God and Jesus Christ.

Trill Clinton
09-05-2019, 09:47 AM
Hmmm. Southern Baptist?

Sorta. Nondemoninational.

Thread
09-05-2019, 09:51 AM
You'll do the (old bell & steeple shuffle) if you're lucky enough that you ain't taken by surprise.

Spurs Homer
09-05-2019, 09:51 AM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?

I think Blake is the biggest one here....


true believer - that is...

SpursforSix
09-05-2019, 10:10 AM
Sorta. Nondemoninational.

LOL...was that intentional?

Trill Clinton
09-05-2019, 10:12 AM
LOL...was that intentional?

?

Thread
09-05-2019, 10:13 AM
I think Blake is the biggest one here....


true believer - that is...

I don't think so, Homer. He told me to go fuck myself a week ago. That don't sound like a true believer, fart-face.

CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 10:15 AM
?

Lol demon spelling

Trill Clinton
09-05-2019, 10:17 AM
dang my bad. y'all know what i meant!

Xevious
09-05-2019, 10:20 AM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?
That was always one of my issues. You could also say Native Americans... whoever. Those who are allowed into heaven is dictated by being born in the right place and right time. Doesn't seem right. For an all-knowing, loving Father who created us all in his own image... this seems to be a massive oversight.

dabom6
09-05-2019, 10:28 AM
Agnostic here. Fuck atheists.:lol

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 10:42 AM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?

I'd say I am but I guess it depends on what you mean by true believer. Sounds like you were being taught a rigid interpretation of the bible. Other denominations have different views. Even the Vatican says non christians and non believers can go to Heaven.

Thread
09-05-2019, 10:55 AM
I'd say I am but I guess it depends on what you mean by true believer. Sounds like you were being taught a rigid interpretation of the bible. Other denominations have different views. Even the Vatican says non christians and non believers can go to Heaven.

See how one is afraid at health, whispers & downcast eyes, but, at threat, is loud inside & outside the church, put's one's belief in broad daylight where God can easily, readily see & hear it, so, He makes no mistake..."not everyone will be treated all the same."

Nobody wants to watch the golden ladder reaching down & forbidden to mount it.

boutons_deux
09-05-2019, 11:04 AM
Religion has fucked up mankind across the planet for 1000s of years, by dividing people into ingroups vs outgroups, engendering murderous violence and wars, none of which accomplished much except to fuck up mankind and distract mankind from what really matters.

So, fuck religion

This is not to say that every religion has some excellent, humane, bona fide members.

Catholics vs Jews (Spanish Inquisition)

Catholics vs Protestants (French wars of religion)

Muslim vs Muslim (shia vs sunni)

Muslim vs Jew

Christian vs Jew

Muslim vs Christian

Muslim vs Hindu

etc, etc, etc what a fucking shitshtorm religion has produced and always will.

CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 11:19 AM
I'd say I am but I guess it depends on what you mean by true believer. Sounds like you were being taught a rigid interpretation of the bible. Other denominations have different views. Even the Vatican says non christians and non believers can go to Heaven.

Straight out of the King James version. Language seemed pretty specific. Believe in Jesus or go to hell.

Thread
09-05-2019, 11:25 AM
Religion has fucked up mankind across the planet for 1000s of years, by dividing people into ingroups vs outgroups, engendering murderous violence and wars, none of which accomplished much except to fuck up mankind and distract mankind from what really matters.

So, fuck religion

This is not to say that every religion has some excellent, humane, bona fide members.

Catholics vs Jews (Spanish Inquisition)

Catholics vs Protestants (French wars of religion)

Muslim vs Muslim (shia vs sunni)

Muslim vs Jew

Christian vs Jew

Muslim vs Christian

Muslim vs Hindu

etc, etc, etc what a fucking shitshtorm religiond produce.

& you too, bouts, will do that bell & steeple shuffle, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.

spurraider21
09-05-2019, 11:30 AM
I'd say I am but I guess it depends on what you mean by true believer. Sounds like you were being taught a rigid interpretation of the bible. Other denominations have different views. Even the Vatican says non christians and non believers can go to Heaven.
Cat in the hat can override the word of god?

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 11:51 AM
Cat in the hat can override the word of god?

The bible is not the Word of God.

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:11 PM
https://youtu.be/arJE7QoOdQ0

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:12 PM
https://youtu.be/8WcXH6G2w8w

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:17 PM
Republican/Conservative JESUS

https://youtu.be/cE0_JhLsgPQ

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:19 PM
https://youtu.be/8r-e2NDSTuE

Blake
09-05-2019, 12:20 PM
I think Blake is the biggest one here....


true believer - that is...

You know it

Blake
09-05-2019, 12:22 PM
I don't think so, Homer. He told me to go fuck myself a week ago. That don't sound like a true believer, fart-face.

Bible God gives a big fuck you over and over again to Israel, especially when Israel cucks Bible God. He really hates that.

Blake
09-05-2019, 12:23 PM
The bible is not the Word of God.

According to pretty much every Christian denomination, it is literally the word of Bible God.

Blake
09-05-2019, 12:27 PM
& you too, bouts, will do that bell & steeple shuffle, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.

So you'll be crawling to a mosque at the end then

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:27 PM
https://youtu.be/D6ZEKtEhS2s




And people say we're the greatest country on earth :lol

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:32 PM
https://youtu.be/JDj4WWKc9xg




:lol

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:33 PM
https://youtu.be/FZ68nh00rag




:lol

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:35 PM
https://youtu.be/9mIztXN9U_s




:lol

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 12:38 PM
https://youtu.be/BHCp0EbSgAI




:lmao

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 12:40 PM
Straight out of the King James version. Language seemed pretty specific. Believe in Jesus or go to hell.

Nope. Depends on your interpretation. All Christians believe salvation comes only through Jesus but that does not mean, to the majority Christians, that all non Christians are doomed to hell.

benefactor
09-05-2019, 12:42 PM
Living in the Bible Belt it was what I did...hell, it's what everybody does. I was even in ministry for a while. But as time passed and more and more information became available online it became pretty obvious it was bullshit. I consider myself agnostic now.

The thing about the Bible Belt is that most of the Jesus people are exactly the same as the non Jesus people. The only difference is they go to a meeting on Sunday, think prayer actually works and thank God for dumb shit like passing a test or getting them a close parking place. Otherwise they fuck around on their spouses, get shit hammered at bars on the weekend and shit on their coworkers like the rest of this country does.

spurraider21
09-05-2019, 12:55 PM
The bible is not the Word of God.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS/giphy.gif

spurraider21
09-05-2019, 12:59 PM
also, the actually address the OP, i was raised a believer in the armenain orthodox church. my grandpa was a priest. i went to armenian private school which had weekly religion class, etc.

i would say that through elementary school i believed everything completely. we prayed every morning at school, i would pray every night before going to bed, etc. it was probably around middle school when i started having doubts about some of the specific tales of the bible. it was noah's ark and adam/eve that really threw me off as not making a lot of sense. i then contorted my belief to think some of the stories were just "lessons" like childrens books... or that god existed and his hand guided evolution, etc.

neither of my parents are devout (my dad is agnostic... my mom believes but mostly as its the cultural thing to do, not because she reads the bible or goes to church regularly)... but i remember when i told my mom i was pretty sure the whole thing was fake, her eyes got all wide and she was like "DONT TELL YOUR GRANDPARENTS"

id say by the end of middle school years i didnt believe anymore. and that really just has become more resolute as time has gone by

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:03 PM
According to pretty much every Christian denomination, it is literally the word of Bible God.

I don't believe that's true but you can list each denomination and if they believe that if you want to prove it.

The majority of Christians do not believe that.

Sacred Scripture is the written testimony of the divine Word, the canonical memory that attests to the event of Revelation. However, the Word of God precedes the Bible and surpasses it. That is why the centre of our faith isn't just a book, but a salvation history and above all a person, Jesus Christ, the Word of God made flesh. - The Pope

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:04 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS/giphy.gif

see #39

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 01:08 PM
How did I become an atheist? I just read the whole bible :lol

Seriously...a talking snake, a two-headed dragon, slavery, animal sacrifices, noah's ark, walking on water, etc. How people still believe this shit blows my mind.

There are over 4,000 religions. Do Christians really think that because they were born at the right place and at the right time that their religion is the one and that Jesus is the true God?

Religion was made up by men to brainwash and control people :lol

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:08 PM
According to pretty much every Christian denomination, it is literally the word of Bible God.


I don't believe that's true but you can list each denomination and if they believe that if you want to prove it.

The majority of Christians do not believe that.

Sacred Scripture is the written testimony of the divine Word, the canonical memory that attests to the event of Revelation. However, the Word of God precedes the Bible and surpasses it. That is why the centre of our faith isn't just a book, but a salvation history and above all a person, Jesus Christ, the Word of God made flesh. - The Pope

Snakeboy is right.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/210704/record-few-americans-believe-bible-literal-word-god.aspx

Only 30% of Christians in 2017 believed that the Bible was the literal word of God. Most believe it is "God-inspired."

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:13 PM
How did I become an atheist? I just read the whole bible :lol

This is not unusual. I was turned off by Christianity by the early OT chapters where God is commanding the Israelites to basically slaughter and pillage all of the other tribes.

Then less than 3000 years later he comes back as Jesus and is like, "Just kidding, love your enemies."

I love Jesus' teachings. The OT, and much of Paul's, not so much.

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:19 PM
Who would have guessed that a triggered Atheist would spam this thread.

Blake
09-05-2019, 01:25 PM
Nope. Depends on your interpretation. All Christians believe salvation comes only through Jesus but that does not mean, to the majority Christians, that all non Christians are doomed to hell.

My anecdotal evidence says your anecdotal evidence about a "majority" believing that way is way off.

Blake
09-05-2019, 01:27 PM
Snakeboy is right.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/210704/record-few-americans-believe-bible-literal-word-god.aspx

Only 30% of Christians in 2017 believed that the Bible was the literal word of God. Most believe it is "God-inspired."

Gallup poll =/= denominational belief

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:28 PM
My anecdotal evidence says your anecdotal evidence about a "majority" believing that way is way off.

My qualitative evidence posted above trumps your anecdotal evidence.

Joseph Kony
09-05-2019, 01:28 PM
i cant fathom how grown adults can still have imaginary friends and really think some dude in the clouds is watching over them and actually gives a fuck about their meaningless lives :lmao :lmao fucking sad, really.

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:28 PM
Gallup poll =/= denominational belief

The poll breaks out Catholics and Protestants. You said "pretty much every denomination." If this were the case, those percentages would be higher than 35% and 21%, respectively.

Blake
09-05-2019, 01:31 PM
I don't believe that's true but you can list each denomination and if they believe that if you want to prove it.

I'm not down for that type of homework assignment just for you.

I'll meet you half way tho. You pick a Christian denomination you might snag me on, and I'll post the text plus link.

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 01:32 PM
This is not unusual. I was turned off by Christianity by the early OT chapters where God is commanding the Israelites to basically slaughter and pillage all of the other tribes.

Then less than 3000 years later he comes back as Jesus and is like, "Just kidding, love your enemies."

I love Jesus' teachings. The OT, and much of Paul's, not so much.

That's how I was too. I like the story of Jesus and his teachings. But I've met pastors/preachers who get drunk all the time, cheat on their wives, steal, etc. Then I see all these Christian fundamentalists and Evangelicals who are the most self-righteous and judgmental assholes. My point is believing in God or being a Chrisitan DOES NOT make you a good person. A lot of people don't realize this and that's how they get brainwashed and controlled. According to the bible, preachers and pastors are supposed to be an extension of God. That is BS based on my experiences :lol

Most of the atheists I've encountered are better human beings that the so called "Chrisitans." One doesn't need the fear of God and burning in hell to be a good person. Going against our free will does more harm than good IMO. Biggest proof is all the child molesters and rapists...most of them happen to be religious.

Religion does more harm than good tbh...

Religion Makes Kids Less Altruistic, More Mean

https://youtu.be/Eqm5u8k7rlQ

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:33 PM
I'm not down for that type of homework assignment just for you.

I'll meet you half way tho. You pick a Christian denomination you might snag me on, and I'll post the text plus link.

I believe the word you're looking for is "doctrine," not "denomination."

Blake
09-05-2019, 01:33 PM
The poll breaks out Catholics and Protestants. You said "pretty much every denomination." If this were the case, those percentages would be higher than 35% and 21%, respectively.

Protestants could mean non-denominational.

And are these people that are polled devout religious types or are they that middling type that just go to church on Easter and Christmas?

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:36 PM
You pick a Christian denomination you might snag me on, and I'll post the text plus link.

I already gave you a quote from the pope, leader of the largest Christian denomination by far. So let's stick with that one.

Ready, Set, Google Blake

CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 01:36 PM
The muslims sales pitch is clearly better. 70 virgin ho's vs. A fucking harp.

Blake
09-05-2019, 01:38 PM
I believe the word you're looking for is "doctrine," not "denomination."

So if someone says they are a member of said denomination but doesn't follow the doctrine, are they really a member of that denomination?

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:40 PM
So if someone says they are a member of said denomination but doesn't follow the doctrine, are they really a member of that denomination?

If a scientist disagrees with a scientific theory, is he really a scientist.

People have their own minds and they don't all fit into your little boxes.

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 01:40 PM
Mommy and daddy told me that Jesus is real :cry

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:43 PM
Protestants could mean non-denominational.

And are these people that are polled devout religious types or are they that middling type that just go to church on Easter and Christmas?

It's everyone that identified as a Christian. "All Christians" = 30% believe in the literal word of God. There is no way that "pretty much every denomination" equates to 30%.

The vast majority of identifying Christians from the major denominations attend church once a month or more.
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/attendance-at-religious-services/

I'm not sure why you're clinging to your argument against this kind of empirical evidence. It's okay to be wrong. I was ready to contradict Snakeboy on his claim about Christians believing in hell, and then I looked it up and saw he was right about that too.

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 01:46 PM
So if someone says they are a member of said denomination but doesn't follow the doctrine, are they really a member of that denomination?

There are a lot of different standards and qualifications for membership. Ultimately, it's up to the church to decide. Given that the Bible is open to interpretation and given that, as we established, most Christians don't believe the Bible is to be taken literally, it shouldn't be surprising that most churches don't require literal and 100% adherence to Biblical doctrine.

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:46 PM
TGY is all kinds of triggered :lol

CosmicCowboy
09-05-2019, 01:51 PM
There are a lot of different standards and qualifications for membership. Ultimately, it's up to the church to decide. Given that the Bible is open to interpretation and given that, as we established, most Christians don't believe the Bible is to be taken literally, it shouldn't be surprising that most churches don't require literal and 100% adherence to Biblical doctrine.

Sounds like they are just hedging their bets. " hey, I dont feel like following the instructions in the owners manual, but I'm gonna claim I believe just in case that afterlife shit is true..."

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 01:51 PM
TGY is all kinds of triggered :lol

Yeah I'm triggered by all the Jewish supremacists, muslim rapists and Christian Zionists running this world. We are ruled by psychos and sociopaths :lol

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 01:55 PM
Yeah I'm triggered

It's obvious to everyone. Really you didn't need to confirm but thanks.

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 02:05 PM
The muslims sales pitch is clearly better. 70 virgin ho's vs. A fucking harp.

Careful, they'll turn on you if you bring Islam into the conversation

Spurminator
09-05-2019, 02:09 PM
Sounds like they are just hedging their bets. " hey, I dont feel like following the instructions in the owners manual, but I'm gonna claim I believe just in case that afterlife shit is true..."

The owners manual has a built-in failsafe. Fundamental to Christian belief is that we're all "sinners," so we need forgiveness.

For non-literal believers, this simply means we acknowledge our flaws and try to be better. There are obviously very widely varying degrees of adherence to this, as evidenced by how many truly shitty people identify as Christians.

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 02:10 PM
TGY if you don't ignore me and you acknowledge my existence then I have triggered you. I got your attention. I feel so accomplished :clap

:tu

Blake
09-05-2019, 02:23 PM
I already gave you a quote from the pope, leader of the largest Christian denomination by far. So let's stick with that one.

Ready, Set, Google Blake

Here's a quote you left out from that same speech from 2018:

"In fact, Sacred Scripture is the Word of God in that it is written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

https://www.learnreligions.com/pope-francis-word-of-god-3970724

Lol "ready set Google" as if going with your preconceived anecdote is better.

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 02:25 PM
Here's a quote you left out from that same speech from 2018:

"In fact, Sacred Scripture is the Word of God in that it is written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

Lol "ready set Google" as if going with your preconceived anecdote is better.

That doesn't say what you think it says. Keep trying.

Let me help you though. You need to learn what the "Word of God" means or you'll keep making the same mistake.

Blake
09-05-2019, 02:26 PM
If a scientist disagrees with a scientific theory, is he really a scientist.

People have their own minds and they don't all fit into your little boxes.

Science allows for you to say "I'm not sure I could be wrong"

Religious dogma does not

Blake
09-05-2019, 02:29 PM
That doesn't say what you think it says. Keep trying.

Let me help you though. You need to learn what the "Word of God" means or you'll keep making the same mistake.

It means exactly what I think it does. "Sacred scripture is the word of God".

If you want to stop right there with the disagreement, fine with me.

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 02:34 PM
It means exactly what I think it does. "Sacred scripture is the word of God".

If you want to stop right there with the disagreement, fine with me.

W

but I accept your surrender

DMC
09-05-2019, 02:56 PM
I think I'm the only open Christian here

Made blatantly obvious by how you deify a dead rapper.

DMC
09-05-2019, 02:58 PM
Agnostic here. Fuck atheists.:lol

Agnostic means you're afraid to commit to your ideals. You're hedging hoping that whatever deity exist if one does will see you as being less of an aggressor but if the letter of the law is true then your balls are going to burn just like everyone else's you'll just be the coward who never got the full benefit of either side.

dabom6
09-05-2019, 03:10 PM
Agnostic means you're afraid to commit to your ideals. You're hedging hoping that whatever deity exist if one does will see you as being less of an aggressor but if the letter of the law is true then your balls are going to burn just like everyone else's you'll just be the coward who never got the full benefit of either side.

Atheists don't know if there isn't a God. They can't disprove it. To believe that there is not a God as a fact is fucking moronic. The universe is never ending. Never fucking ending. The probability of there being a god is higher than there isn't. That's just facts. So fuck your fake pseudo knowledge. :lmao :lmao

dabom6
09-05-2019, 03:13 PM
And before you fucking reply with some dumbass retort, don't come at me with "rules" as to positions. Fact is you still can't prove there isn't a god. :lmao

dabom6
09-05-2019, 03:18 PM
I can't disprove or prove there isn't a God. That's what Agnostic means. I'm not hedging shit. I'm just not siding with idiots. :lol

Thread
09-05-2019, 03:22 PM
So you'll be crawling to a mosque at the end then


You're actually going to persist on this "mosque/muslim" tact for me, Blake? First, the Winester won't quote my shit in his response, then peeg fucks with my shit & now you with this. I never figured you 3 for such pedestrian behavior. I looked up to ya's.

Frankly, I'd always thought, even concerned that you all were better than me. I was mistaken.

Thread
09-05-2019, 03:24 PM
I can't disprove or prove there isn't a God. That's what Agnostic means. I'm not hedging shit. I'm just not siding with idiots. :lol

You will, when it serves only you.

You must proselytize, bomb. You can't just take from God. You must give, pass His word & teachings.

ADDENDUM:::I was walking a distance from my car to the bowling alley a few months, feeling sorry myself, I'd hung my head, ruminating as you've seen me do here. A kid came out the back of a pizza joint on the strip mall I was cutting thru. He was black and he watched me for a few seconds before he approached me. I wasn't alarmed because he was in a uniform. So, I slowed my pace and we crossed paths. He handed me a "business" card. It was a card for Jesus, an invite to read His word.

I didn't know that when he handed it to me. I stuck in my pocket, no words were spoken twixt us. I just put my head back down and kept walking. In the bowling alley I got a cold drink, sat down to watch the bowlers and remembered the card & pulled it out.

He proselytized the Cubster.

koriwhat
09-05-2019, 03:26 PM
god save us all tbh

TheGreatYacht
09-05-2019, 03:36 PM
god save us all tbh

Do you practice Judaism like your grandfather? Are you a Christian? Or an Agnostic/atheist?

koriwhat
09-05-2019, 04:22 PM
Do you practice Judaism like your grandfather? Are you a Christian? Or an Agnostic/atheist?

you can't put me into a box tbh.

as well, you can't be Jewish unless your mother is or you convert which i never did and never intend to do.

am i christian? no. am i agnostic? no. am i atheist? no. however, i do believe in a higher being/energy.

Blake
09-05-2019, 04:26 PM
W

but I accept your surrender

Lol "w"

I'll accept that you interpret "sacred scripture is the word of God" as something different from those words

Blake
09-05-2019, 05:12 PM
There are a lot of different standards and qualifications for membership. Ultimately, it's up to the church to decide. Given that the Bible is open to interpretation and given that, as we established, most Christians don't believe the Bible is to be taken literally, it shouldn't be surprising that most churches don't require literal and 100% adherence to Biblical doctrine.

If a church decides to go Methodist then it's implied they are conforming to the universal standards of being a Methodist.

I get that many non-denominational Christians nowadays are trying to get away from that word "literal" because they realize how stupid much of the literal Bible is. They want to be able to have wiggle room out of the awful laws and barbaric acts of the Old Testament.

That's why I'm clearly stating "denomination" which the word "doctrine" goes with unless the individual church says different.

Blake
09-05-2019, 05:17 PM
Sounds like they are just hedging their bets. " hey, I dont feel like following the instructions in the owners manual, but I'm gonna claim I believe just in case that afterlife shit is true..."

Exactly

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 09:51 PM
Lol "w"

I'll accept that you interpret "sacred scripture is the word of God" as something different from those words

The W is capitalized

You still don't know what the pope means when he references the Word of God. It isn't the bible.

Blake
09-05-2019, 10:00 PM
The W is capitalized

You still don't know what the pope means when he references the Word of God. It isn't the bible.

What is referencing as "sacred scripture"

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 10:39 PM
What is referencing as "sacred scripture"

lol It's all explained in your own link if you read it. You'd understand if you took my advice to learn what the Word of God means to Catholics.

and stop editing the sentence down further and further

"In fact, Sacred Scripture is the Word of God in that it is written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "

^ the full sentence doesn't support your premise. Once again, Word of God is not a reference to words on paper.

Honestly, I'm not going to play Sunday school teacher here, I'm not even Catholic. Your self chosen task was to prove that the Catholic church believes the bible is the literal word of God. I'm just trying to help you not make the same mistake over and over but clearly it's not working.

You can keep trying but you were right to throw in the towel the first time because you are wrong and that is not what the Catholic church believes.

Blake
09-05-2019, 10:50 PM
I'm not gonna play grammar teacher here either. I'll just have to disagree with your anecdotal interpretation.

Unless you want to lay out your idea of what laws and stories are literally true in the Bible and what aren't.

I'll go ahead and accept your thread ejection coming in 3...2...

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 11:02 PM
I'm not gonna play grammar teacher here either. I'll just have to disagree with your anecdotal interpretation.

Unless you want to lay out your idea of what laws and stories are literally true in the Bible and what aren't.

I'll go ahead and accept your thread ejection coming in 3...2...

lol You are the one failing at your own self chosen challenge. Now you are trying to move the goalpost.

Here, one last attempt to help you understand Word does not mean word

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-1/

SnakeBoy
09-05-2019, 11:19 PM
I'm not gonna play grammar teacher here either. I'll just have to disagree with your anecdotal interpretation.

Unless you want to lay out your idea of what laws and stories are literally true in the Bible and what aren't.

I'll go ahead and accept your thread ejection coming in 3...2...

Now stop deflecting and prove that you know more about what the Catholic Church believes than the fucking Pope.

Or just admit you are wrong. Which you are.

Blake
09-06-2019, 12:20 AM
Now stop deflecting and prove that you know more about what the Catholic Church believes than the fucking Pope.

Or just admit you are wrong. Which you are.

You didn't define "sacred scripture" in either of those two wordy posts.

Those words are the Pope's words, not mine. Define those words or I'll just put you down for blathering arrogant ejection.

Blake
09-06-2019, 12:28 AM
lol You are the one failing at your own self chosen challenge. Now you are trying to move the goalpost.

Here, one last attempt to help you understand Word does not mean word

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-1/

https://dailyverses.net/2-timothy/3/16-17

God inspired with his breath!

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 12:43 AM
lol You are the one failing at your own self chosen challenge. Now you are trying to move the goalpost.

Here, one last attempt to help you understand Word does not mean word

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-1/


Now stop deflecting and prove that you know more about what the Catholic Church believes than the fucking Pope.

Or just admit you are wrong. Which you are.


You didn't define "sacred scripture" in either of those two wordy posts.

Those words are the Pope's words, not mine. Define those words or I'll just put you down for blathering arrogant ejection.

:lol "Wordy"

SnakeBoy
09-06-2019, 12:47 AM
https://dailyverses.net/2-timothy/3/16-17

God inspired with his breath!


You didn't define "sacred scripture" in either of those two wordy posts.

Those words are the Pope's words, not mine. Define those words or I'll just put you down for blathering arrogant ejection.

You're flailing now but at least you've moved on from confusing The Word with words on paper, progress.


You pick a Christian denomination you might snag me on, and I'll post the text plus link.

Still waiting. Show me that the Catholic Church believes the bible is literally the word (not The Word) of bible God.

SnakeBoy
09-06-2019, 12:55 AM
I'm going to bed now but I do look forward to what your google searches come up with.

Blake
09-06-2019, 12:57 AM
You're actually going to persist on this "mosque/muslim" tact for me, Blake? First, the Winester won't quote my shit in his response, then peeg fucks with my shit & now you with this. I never figured you 3 for such pedestrian behavior. I looked up to ya's.

Frankly, I'd always thought, even concerned that you all were better than me. I was mistaken.

It's logic. If you're gonna say we'll all be praying to God at the end for insurance, then might as well cover all the religious bases.

Blake
09-06-2019, 01:01 AM
You're flailing now but at least you've moved on from confusing The Word with words on paper, progress.



Still waiting. Show me that the Catholic Church believes the bible is literally the word (not The Word) of bible God.

I already did. Sorry this doesn't say what you think it says:


Here's a quote you left out from that same speech from 2018:

"In fact, Sacred Scripture is the Word of God in that it is written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

https://www.learnreligions.com/pope-francis-word-of-god-3970724



I'm not flailing. I'm specifically asking you in plain terms what you think "Sacred Scripture" means. It's even posted in capital letters.

But hey, go to sleep in comfort with that W you gave yourself. :tu

Blake
09-06-2019, 01:04 AM
:lol "Wordy"

:lol deflection activated

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 01:13 AM
:lol deflection activated

:lol Deflecting
:lol I'm just :lol'ing at your stupid aspersions.

Winehole23
09-06-2019, 01:24 AM
Sounds like they are just hedging their bets. " hey, I dont feel like following the instructions in the owners manual, but I'm gonna claim I believe just in case that afterlife shit is true..."Pascal's wager.

Paraphrase: Blaise Pascal disdains cosmological and ontological proofs of God in favor of prudential arguments.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/

Blake
09-06-2019, 01:34 AM
:lol Deflecting
:lol I'm just :lol'ing at your stupid aspersions.

Derp here to stalk on cue

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 02:51 AM
Fox News Triggered By Pro-Immigrant Churches

https://youtu.be/CFXYRMxRDWs

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 02:54 AM
Derp here to stalk on cue

Poor picked on cuck.

boutons_deux
09-06-2019, 08:51 AM
Evangelist Benny Hinn renounces the ‘prosperity gospel’ in a stunning reversal: ‘I’m done with it‘


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Screen-Shot-2019-09-05-at-11.55.18-AM.png

Christian televangelist and faith healer Benny Hinn has long been known as one of the most vocal proponents of the “prosperity gospel.”

But now, he’s publicly renouncing the teaching,

Hinn declared that the Gospel “is not for sale.” :lol not anymore! I got mine! :lol

I will never again ask you to give $1,000 or whatever amount, because I think the Holy Ghost is just fed up with it.” :lol

:lol ... so when was the Holy Ghost NOT fed up with it? :lol

“prosperity gospel (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/1/15951874/prosperity-gospel-explained-why-joel-osteen-believes-prayer-can-make-you-rich-trump)” :lol is usually understood as a series of teachings that say believers will be rewarded with health and wealth

as long as they give monetary offerings to their churches and pastors. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/evangelist-benny-hinn-renounces-the-prosperity-gospel-in-a-stunning-reversal-im-done-with-it/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1252

Net Worth $42 Million :lol

Hey, suckers! I Got Mine! Praise The Lord!

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 09:50 AM
https://youtu.be/uo1SsuM6Rls




:lol

MultiTroll
09-06-2019, 10:28 AM
Tounges
:lol
And on the atheist side.
Some quotes:



Do you ask if it's ever proper to help another man? ... Yes — if such is your own desire based on your own selfish pleasure.- Ayn Rand (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand)
We would not let our enemies have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?- Joseph Stalin (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin)
The Marxist outlook ... represents the most consistent and systematic application of the scientific outlook and method.- Bob Avakian
If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.- Camille Paglia (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia)
I am inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really.[B]- James D. Watson (https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=James_D._Watson&action=edit&redlink=1)
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure, / Filled it with vice, and called the thing a nagggger.- H.P. Lovecraft (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/H.P._Lovecraft)

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 10:42 AM
Pastor On Orlando Massacre: 'These People All Should Have Been Killed'

https://youtu.be/xzAe3oJkWo0



MultiTroll...the Christian Taliban

MultiTroll
09-06-2019, 10:44 AM
Pastor On Orlando Massacre: 'These People All Should Have Been Killed'

https://youtu.be/xzAe3oJkWo0
Nutbars on both sides.
I can acknowledge this.
You?

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 10:54 AM
Nutbars on both sides.
I can acknowledge this.
You?

Yes.

But according to studies, children with a religious upbringing show less altruism. Will you acknowledge this?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/children-with-a-religious-upbringing-show-less-altruism/

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 11:07 AM
What Happens When You Raise Kids With No Religion?

https://youtu.be/rYXbXadAT6o




MultiTroll...this explains why most non-religious people tend to be leftists. Ex. Scandinavians

spurraider21
09-06-2019, 11:08 AM
Careful, they'll turn on you if you bring Islam into the conversation
It’s also an absurd religion tbh

but nobody here is calling for discrimination or different treatment of Christians. The “defense” of Muslims you see on ST, besides from ghazi and apa, is never about the legitimacy, truth, or usefulness of the belief system

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 11:17 AM
It’s also an absurd religion tbh

but nobody here is calling for discrimination or different treatment of Christians. The “defense” of Muslims you see on ST, besides from ghazi and apa, is never about the legitimacy, truth, or usefulness of the belief system

Muslims are tools to the Zionists. They are the boogeymen, the excuse and reason to keep fighting Israel's wars. Before Israel was created hardly anyone gave a shit about muslims.

spurraider21
09-06-2019, 11:46 AM
Muslims are tools to the Zionists. They are the boogeymen, the excuse and reason to keep fighting Israel's wars. Before Israel was created hardly anyone gave a shit about muslims.
yeah i know jews bad, got it

Thread
09-06-2019, 12:22 PM
Living proof:::



https://youtu.be/a54iqEr1flQ

Thread
09-06-2019, 12:24 PM
yeah i know jews bad, got it

Tell it, 21. Testify!!!

Blake
09-06-2019, 12:38 PM
Nutbars on both sides.
I can acknowledge this.
You?

There's nutbars in all walks of life. Its irrelevant to whether religion is silly on it's own or not.

Blake
09-06-2019, 12:40 PM
Poor picked on cuck.

Lol "picked on" says the forum jizz rag

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 01:38 PM
jizz rag

that was Sancho's pet name for your ex tbh.

Blake
09-06-2019, 02:20 PM
that was Sancho's pet name for your ex tbh.

Says the og ST jizz rag

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 02:26 PM
Says the og ST jizz rag

says the dude who laughs at you for being a complete and utter bitch. :tu

SnakeBoy
09-06-2019, 02:36 PM
Yes.

But according to studies, children with a religious upbringing show less altruism. Will you acknowledge this?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/children-with-a-religious-upbringing-show-less-altruism/

lol 5 year olds willingness to share stickers demonstrates dictator tendencies

Sounds legit

TheGreatYacht
09-06-2019, 02:59 PM
lol 5 year olds willingness to share stickers demonstrates dictator tendencies

Sounds legit

So being more loving, caring and shareful makes one a dictator? That fox news brainwashing has done it's job on you :lmao

Damn, Jesus Christ was a brutal dictator then.

Blake
09-06-2019, 03:02 PM
says the dude who laughs at you for being a complete and utter bitch. :tu

Sure, druggy

Ball Buster
09-06-2019, 03:10 PM
I grew up Christian, and I really wish I hadn’t. Went to a private Christian school my whole life. It was like going to school on a Fox News set. The high school principal was having an affair with his secretary, embarrassing his wife was an English teacher. The Bible teacher got fired for seating all the pretty girls with mini skirts in the front row, so he could catch beaver shots all day. Another Bible teacher got fired for inappropriate contact with a minor. Hypocrisy galore. Took me years to unlearn that bullshit.

I’m cool with Jesus, and I will except him as a prophet. But the human beings who created a religion around him, and the stupid rules designed to shame people, are full of shit.

No man has the power in this life to damn himself to eternal suffering in hell. It’s horseshit, and it’s bad for you.

Ball Buster
09-06-2019, 03:22 PM
Another thing that bothers me about Christianity. When you go to a church, and look at all the pictures and read all of the religious pamphlets , all of the characters and disciples look like lily white Shakespearean actors.
Something lost on Christians is that Christianity is an Arab religion. It was born in the Middle East. All the cast of characters in the Bible were Arab or Jews. None of them would look anything like the picture is depicted in American Bibles.

For some reason Christians have to pretend everybody depicted in the Bible were white people. Which to me shows how lame the whole thing is if you can’t even show what people actually looked like.

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 03:36 PM
Sure, druggy

seriously dumbfuck what's your deal? i get on ST today just to see that you quoted me because you can't stop stalking me and here we go again... why not stay in your lane and seriously just fuck off already?

faggots like you deserve nothing but bad luck.

K, faggot

Blake
09-06-2019, 04:09 PM
^ so angry

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 04:53 PM
^ so angry

you literally have no concept of the words you use. no one's angry and annoyed is a better descriptor tbh. totally annoyed that a faggot like yourself can't get the hint that you're a nobody and someone i do not care to have a back and forth with. just like your ex, i too am over you and your faggotry.

understand yet bitchBlaKKKe?

Blake
09-06-2019, 05:10 PM
no one's angry

you're a nobody

I am over you

understand yet bitchBlaKKKe?

So not angry

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 05:15 PM
So not angry

you perceive an emotion i'm not feeling atm. it's your perception because frankly you're a bitch. bitches like you are triggered by everything even words on a messageboard.

K, bitchBlaKKKe

ps: stop calling out for men, especially me, and stop stalking me you fucking faggot.

Winehole23
09-06-2019, 05:19 PM
Triggered by words on a messageboard

Blake
09-06-2019, 05:27 PM
you perceive an emotion i'm not feeling atm. it's your perception because frankly you're a bitch. bitches like you are triggered by everything even words on a messageboard.

K, bitchBlaKKKe

ps: stop calling out for men, especially me, and stop stalking me you fucking faggot.

Sure, stalker. So over me.

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 05:41 PM
Lol "picked on" says the forum jizz rag

Bro, you're a real life cuck. Nuff said.

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 05:47 PM
Sure, stalker. So over me.

you're the one who's stalking tbh and you know it. :tu

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 05:47 PM
Bro, you're a real life cuck. Nuff said.

that's the point he's not getting. :lol

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 06:03 PM
that's the point he's not getting. :lol

Dude really struggling to come to terms.

koriwhat
09-06-2019, 07:38 PM
Dude really struggling to come to terms.

no doubt about it. he thinks he's hot shit here on ST but he's still a cuck no matter where he runs and hides out at. :lmao

Blake
09-06-2019, 09:04 PM
Bro, you're a real life cuck. Nuff said.


you're the one who's stalking tbh and you know it. :tu


that's the point he's not getting. :lol


Dude really struggling to come to terms.


no doubt about it. he thinks he's hot shit here on ST but he's still a cuck no matter where he runs and hides out at. :lmao

:wakeup

Spurtacular
09-06-2019, 10:08 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/462/091/096.gif

Blake
09-06-2019, 10:42 PM
:wakeup

Spurtacular
09-07-2019, 01:10 AM
^^^

:lmao That's some serious coping.

TheGreatYacht
09-08-2019, 04:51 AM
Black Pastor Does Epic Sermon And Calls Out Bible Thumpers For Their Hypocrosy On Homosexuas

https://youtu.be/rOe3siDAyJA




Damn...if Christians behaved like this preacher Christianity would more apealling :lol

TheGreatYacht
09-08-2019, 11:14 AM
Joe Rogan Smacks Up Milo Yiannopoulos On Religion

https://youtu.be/VhD_JmYNqoY

boutons_deux
09-08-2019, 03:57 PM
Black Pastor Does Epic Sermon And Calls Out Bible Thumpers For Their Hypocrosy On Homosexuas

https://youtu.be/rOe3siDAyJA

Damn...if Christians behaved like this preacher Christianity would more apealling :lol


The Bible humpers cherry pick from the Bible to justify the hate they bring to the Bible. They particularly love and prioritize the hate, murder, violent, vengeful, scary God of the OT, rather the "All We Need Is Love, Love Is All Need" hippy inclusiveness of the NT Jesus.

Hate is what binds, and motivates the evangelicals, and why they at 80%+ support Trash to execute their hate and hurt on LGBT, Muslims, non-white, non-males.

spurraider21
09-08-2019, 04:51 PM
kingsbury should be fired at the half. not even joking.

david johnson with a 7 yard run on first and goal to get them to the half yard line. 2nd and 1 they call a fucking pass leading to a sack and wind up settling for a field goal. this offense is a dumpster fire, and its just just kyler

TheGreatYacht
09-08-2019, 05:08 PM
The Bible humpers cherry pick from the Bible to justify the hate they bring to the Bible. They particularly love and prioritize the hate, murder, violent, vengeful, scary God of the OT, rather the "All We Need Is Love, Love Is All Need" hippy inclusiveness of the NT Jesus.

Hate is what binds, and motivates the evangelicals, and why they at 80%+ support Trash to execute their hate and hurt on LGBT, Muslims, non-white, non-males.

That's why we shouldn't base our laws on ancient texts. You can justify a left-wing or right-wing government using the bible.

Blake
09-08-2019, 05:13 PM
That's why we shouldn't base our laws on ancient texts. You can justify a left-wing or right-wing government using the bible.

Or a theocracy or a monarchy or a best life Joel Osteen oligarchy

boutons_deux
09-08-2019, 05:28 PM
How Ladder Day Saints cult's bullshit animated Bundy and the Malheur people

How the strange tale of the "Oregon standoff" explains what happened in America in 2016

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/08/how-the-strange-tale-of-the-oregon-standoff-explains-what-happened-in-america-in-2016/

TheGreatYacht
09-09-2019, 09:25 AM
Exposing the Secret Christian Group Seeking Political Power

https://youtu.be/oMxEs4xEH7E

"‘The Family’ is the oldest Christian Conservative Organisations in Washington D.C. and very secretive. Their goal is not to use Christian feelings to help the poor and the needy, but to concentrate on the ‘key’ people such as politicians and businesspeople. Jeff Sharlet was part of the organisation and has published books on his findings. Jeff joined Thom to reveal all and whether this is a cult."

TheGreatYacht
09-09-2019, 09:34 AM
Jordan Peterson: Without Religion There's No Art & Poetry & Morality

https://youtu.be/aw1jtOiPzB0

Ghazi
09-09-2019, 11:35 AM
For God to have a son and a mother just is hard for me to accept, even though I've given Xtianity a chance.

spurraider21
09-09-2019, 11:45 AM
good grief, that jordan peterson clip

"I dont believe in God"

"yes you do, you just don't know it"

for fucks sake...

RandomGuy
09-10-2019, 02:34 PM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?
Qhris says he is.

Phenonomaul is.

koriwhat
09-10-2019, 05:55 PM
For God to have a son and a mother just is hard for me to accept, even though I've given Xtianity a chance.

Lol but you'll bow down to an ideology of hate brought upon by a sick old pedophile. Dipshit!

Ghazi
09-11-2019, 01:53 PM
Lol but you'll bow down to an ideology of hate brought upon by a sick old pedophile. Dipshit!

Ideology of peace brought upon by perhaps the most based man to ever live. ;)

koriwhat
09-11-2019, 01:55 PM
Ideology of peace brought upon by perhaps the most based man to ever live. ;)

You're a sick individual too just like mohammad the pedophile so it's just logical you'd bow down to such a loser.

TheGreatYacht
09-11-2019, 09:36 PM
Joe Rogan Vs Openly Christian Homosexual Milo Yiannopoulos.

https://youtu.be/3AHjsSdapI4

DMC
09-11-2019, 10:07 PM
For God to have a son and a mother just is hard for me to accept, even though I've given Xtianity a chance.

That's not how it works.

A businessman would conclude that Judaism was too demanding, they needed a reprieve from all the giving and dedication of their lives to a belief system. They used the prophesy to conjure up dozens, if not hundreds of christs. Those who settled on that particular Jesus of Nazareth narrative did a lot to carry that to the rest of the world, and tbh Paul of Tarsus never even met Jesus, but spent a lot of time creating the religion we know now as Christianity, as did the Constantine and the CoN (Council of Nicea). Men decided what books were good and what books weren't, and there were a shit ton of books.

There's so many politics behind religion that, by necessity, it has to be false.

The odds that someone's religion is true, imo, are so low that it bears basically ignoring the suggestion. Consider how many religions there are, and give them all basically the same odds of being true, and you still have less than the odds that intelligent alien life exists and will swoop down and take humans to a different planet. We haven't built any landing pads for them. There are churches and shit everywhere.

The odds are much better that no religion is true, especially deity based religions. What that leaves you with, when you realize that (really realize it, not just yap about it) might not be solid enough for some people, so they prefer the charade of having a sky buddy and hanging with other like minded adults pretending to be a community.

CosmicCowboy
09-12-2019, 05:32 AM
Yep. It's hard to accept that dead is just...dead. the platitudes that "he/she is in a better place now" that you hear at every death just rings so false to me.

Roman88
09-12-2019, 06:12 AM
Yes, I am truly believing in Allah.

TheGreatYacht
09-12-2019, 09:49 AM
Religion Is An Excuse

https://youtu.be/3g-f9tPune8

Ghazi
09-12-2019, 10:45 AM
You're a sick individual too just like mohammad the pedophile so it's just logical you'd bow down to such a loser.

Boiled down:::

Muhammad-GOAT
Koriwhat-calf tats

DarrinS
09-12-2019, 11:38 AM
Fify



Boiled down:::

Muhammad-GOAT-fvcker

TheGreatYacht
09-12-2019, 05:24 PM
'Prosperity Gospel' Televangelist Flips & Scolds Fellow Charlatan Pastors!

https://youtu.be/rzDz4u7KYO8

TheGreatYacht
09-15-2019, 10:00 AM
John Hagee EXPOSED. Is He Being Trained by Kabbalah Wizards? A Challenge to Christian Zionists (Part 1/2)

https://youtu.be/qogyb_Yawjk
Part 2

https://youtu.be/vncl0TVn4z8

John Hagee says Jesus didn't come to be the Messiah. How can Christians not see through this false preacher?

TheGreatYacht
09-19-2019, 11:04 AM
Religion Limits Us - David Icke

https://youtu.be/vkBO-GzunEM

TheGreatYacht
09-19-2019, 06:35 PM
Trump Pastor: God Wants Humans To Destroy The Environment

https://youtu.be/-sIXujB8uDs

TheGreatYacht
10-05-2019, 05:21 PM
Pastor Speaking In Tongues Can't Stop Checking His Phone

https://youtu.be/UpIJ6sD7-bI

Blake
10-05-2019, 09:34 PM
^ didn't watch but why is there a bottle of Olive oil there

Spurtacular
10-05-2019, 11:25 PM
^ didn't watch but why is there a bottle of Olive oil there

Biblical cuck scholar doesn't know? I'm sure you'll come up with a jaded cuck version if you need to know. :lol

TheGreatYacht
11-25-2019, 04:44 PM
Rick Perry Says Trump Is Chosen By God

https://youtu.be/Ei-9DMQWnpI

SpursforSix
11-25-2019, 04:47 PM
me2H7Ja93Wg

RandomGuy
11-26-2019, 11:22 AM
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I have had a hard time buying in to organized religion since I was about 10. This was probably the first bible verse that just struck me as being wrong. I had already been indoctrinated in "heaven" and "hell" but it defied logic that someone in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would go to Hell for not knowing about Jesus.

Any true believers in here? Are we all agnostics or non believers? Will we be having a Spurstalk Political Forum GTG in Hell?

Atheist. To be more precise an agnostic atheist.

Sat the on the fence for a while, until an agreement with an evangelical friend had me looking at the arguments/evidence for his version of God. I found a lot of really really bad arguments, and it occurred to be that the creator of the universe should be able to do a LOT better.

Either you believe a God exists, or you don't. If you don't you are an atheist.

Either you claim you know there is no God, or you don't. (gnosticism)

I think the level of evidence to prove there is no god is on par with the amount of evidence required to prove a god exists. Both are far beyond what we have now, or ever may have.

I can say the God of the Bible, or Quran doesn't exist, because the very concepts of God put forth in books like that are flawed to the point of logical impossibility.

If there is a being that might qualify as a god, I see no evidence that being has any hand in the universe or cares about our existence.

RandomGuy
11-26-2019, 11:25 AM
Yep. It's hard to accept that dead is just...dead. the platitudes that "he/she is in a better place now" that you hear at every death just rings so false to me.

A "just so" story. We have no evidence that souls exist. Look up the concept of "ensoulment", such as "do twins share a soul"? what about chimeras? (fraternal twins that merge into one embroyo) etc.

Everything we know about existence shows that it ends when the brain dies. Damage the brain, the person changes.

TheGreatYacht
12-10-2019, 01:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MuslimGroyper/status/1197263732252000256

Why do my conservative Christian friends and Trump supporters hate muslims so much? I wonder who is poisoning their mind with Islamophobia propaganda. I wonder who is responsible for the Muslim refugee crisis. I wonder what group of people want open borders and welcome all the war refugees as result of the Zio wars.

koriwhat since you are well known as the top muslim hater on this forum maybe you can answer my questions.

boutons_deux
12-10-2019, 01:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/MuslimGroyper/status/1197263732252000256

Why do my conservative Christian friends and Trump supporters hate muslims so much? I wonder who is poisoning their mind with Islamophobia propaganda. I wonder who is responsible for the Muslim refugee crisis. I wonder what group of people want open borders and welcome all the war refugees as result of the Zio wars.

in-groups opposing out-groups is fundamental for in-group leaders to indoctrinate, intensify the in-group's sheeple and their group identification.

koriwhat
12-10-2019, 02:49 PM
since you are well known as the top muslim hater on this forum maybe you can answer my questions.

i don't hate muslims, i simply don't trust them nor care to befriend them. it's that simple.

now go post some more zionist bullshit you found on 4chan and youtube.

TheGreatYacht
01-12-2020, 02:00 AM
As always, Chuck Baldwin, thank you for speaking truth. I recently left my pro-Zionist church because of the praise of Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo. My former pastor even applauded what a Godly, Christian man Pompeo is. Really?!?!? Steven Ben-Nun showed documentation back in November where Soleimani was negotiating peace with Saudi Arabia, yet Pompeo told a bold face lie to reporters asking them if they believed the General was seeking peace on a diplomatic mission in Iraq. No doubt Soleimani was not a good guy but he fought against ISIS, whom I believe was created by the CIA and the Mossad. I'm furious at our entire government, with church leaders that stand for Zionists. We truly are now the United States of Israel!!!! Continue the good fight Pastor Baldwin. I'm seeking truth and spreading truth to all who will listen. And thank you for being my pastor even though I live far away. I anxiously await to hear your messages online. May God bless you and keep you safe.

- Pamela Kern

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2954672304543674&id=226997970644468

TheGreatYacht
01-13-2020, 09:57 PM
Kingdom of the War God- Evangelicals Betray Jesus Christ for Israel

https://youtu.be/lLHxM0nrsDA

TheGreatYacht
01-16-2020, 09:52 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/morphonios/status/1216853327935348736

Blake
01-16-2020, 04:03 PM
i don't hate muslims, i simply don't trust them nor care to befriend them.

:lol

koriwhat
01-16-2020, 04:30 PM
:lol

funny how you cry when i simply reply back to you when you weren't part of the conversation in the first place... here we are with you quoting me again but i wonder if this reply will earn some more tears from your bitchass blaKKKe?

koriwhat
01-16-2020, 04:30 PM
as well, you searching for posts by me is right up there with Spurt... guess you are what you claim not to be and what you claim to hate. right bitchass blaKKKe? :tu

Blake
01-16-2020, 04:45 PM
as well, you searching for posts by me is right up there with Spurt... guess you are what you claim not to be and what you claim to hate. right bitchass blaKKKe? :tu

I was reading this thread and saw your hilarious post, dipshit.

koriwhat
01-16-2020, 06:24 PM
I was reading this thread and saw your hilarious post, dipshit.

yeah sure you were you fruity weak son of a bitch :tu

keep crying out for men some more fruityBlaKKKe!

Blake
01-16-2020, 06:44 PM
yeah sure you were you fruity weak son of a bitch :tu

keep crying out for men some more fruityBlaKKKe!

Sure, druggy

koriwhat
01-16-2020, 08:07 PM
Sure, druggy

your faggot ass time and time again goes out of your way to bug the fuck out of me... with that said, you cry endlessly about spurt bugging you but here you are bugging me again for no fucking reason. when you're called out all you do is tuck your tail and hurl false insults like they're worth a fuck. your insults are as worthless as yourself you fucking queer.

Blake
01-16-2020, 08:53 PM
Lol ":cry you go out of the way to bug the fuck out of me :cry"

I've said about twenty words in four posts to you.

And all it took for you to rage was me to lol at one of your retarded posts. That's it.

I have twice as many posts as you do in this thread.

Seriously, you need to chill the fuck out. :lol

DMC
01-16-2020, 11:22 PM
Blake jonsing for some Christianity bashing.. must... bash... must... baaaaassshh...

Blake
01-16-2020, 11:26 PM
Dmc hungry for ankles

TheGreatYacht
01-22-2020, 06:29 PM
Catholic Church Publicly Feuding About Sex

https://youtu.be/ueSeq1XavcU

TheGreatYacht
01-22-2020, 07:16 PM
Evangelist donates 6 million to Israel, says must control Jerusalem

https://youtu.be/XNz_F8305eE

:lol

Blake
01-22-2020, 07:30 PM
Oh yeah Hagee has been a huge Israel supporter for many years. Because Bible.

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2020, 09:41 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Know_More_News/status/1221616349140488192

Sportcamper
01-27-2020, 03:19 PM
It always interest me when people of considerable intellect, (an engineer) raised in the Bible Belt, next to Christian institutions like Dallas Theology Seminary, would use weak arguments to defend their unbelief. "I do not accept Christianity because people in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would not go to heaven for not knowing about Jesus."

I think of scripture like Romans 1-18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. In other words, even tribesman living in remote corners of the world have the ability to reason and have a moral code written in their hearts.

For an in-depth look at this passage see the YouTube. When God abandons a nation. It is worth a listen in its entirety but since most Americans only have an attention span of about 12 minutes you can fast forward to about 24 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz8AA_Oa0EU

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 03:28 PM
"even tribesman living in remote corners of the world have the ability to reason and have a moral code written in their hearts"

and they don't need Christianity at all.

Then we have the Christians esp Catholics fucking up America, so where is Christian/Catholic morality and ethics of Bill Barr, Gingrich, O'Reilly, etc and the 5 Catholics on SCOTUS?

Blake
01-27-2020, 06:17 PM
"....would use weak arguments to defend their unbelief. "I do not accept Christianity because people in India or China that otherwise lived an exemplary life would not go to heaven for not knowing about Jesus."
......
In other words, even tribesman living in remote corners of the world have the ability to reason and have a moral code written in their hearts.

But those tribesmen won't go to heaven tho according to Christianity.

Pick a lane, tbh.

TheGreatYacht
01-27-2020, 06:49 PM
But those tribesmen won't go to heaven tho according to Christianity.

Pick a lane, tbh.

So all the humans that existed before Jesus Christ was born who believed in other Gods are now burning in hell because they were born at the wrong place and at the wrong time?

Blake
01-27-2020, 06:56 PM
So all the humans that existed before Jesus Christ was born who believed in other Gods are now burning in hell because they were born at the wrong place and at the wrong time?

Well yeah pagans go to hell but that's not the big dilemma question. What about all the Old Testament heroes that came before Jesus?

TheGreatYacht
01-27-2020, 07:09 PM
Well yeah pagans go to hell but that's not the big dilemma question. What about all the Old Testament heroes that came before Jesus?

I know right? That logic and questioning is what let me to say "fuck religion" :lol

TheGreatYacht
01-27-2020, 09:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/morphonios/status/1221937183520632832

Blake
01-27-2020, 10:01 PM
I know right? That logic and questioning is what let me to say "fuck religion" :lol

:lol at some intellectual point you get tired of saying/hearing "we'll just have to ask God when we get there why _______ doesn't make sense".

Spurtacular
01-27-2020, 10:12 PM
:lol at some intellectual point you get tired of saying/hearing "we'll just have to ask God when we get there why _______ doesn't make sense".

You don't think God's gonna give you the answer on why you're a cuckold?

Millennial_Messiah
01-28-2020, 06:57 PM
I'm a Metheist like Kobe. Me, myself and I.

TheGreatYacht
01-30-2020, 01:15 AM
Donald Trump’s so-called Deal of the Century unveiled this past Tuesday is actually a deal with the devil. This so-called Middle East Peace Plan would more accurately be called the “Permanent Palestinian Enslavement Act”—otherwise known as the “Save Benjamin Netanyahu’s Derriere Act.”

On the very day that Netanyahu was formally indicted on corruption charges by the Israeli Knesset, Donald Trump rolls out his “Deal of the Century” Middle East peace plan. As with Trump’s assassination of General Soleimani, this is nothing but a ploy to try and save Trump’s partner in crime and fellow Zionist, Benjamin Netanyahu—and to further endear himself to the much beguiled Christian Zionists within America’s evangelical voting bloc.

The people who live under the yoke of Israeli oppression in Palestine, however, know exactly what this is all about. And they rightly reject it.

Trump’s “two-state solution” for the Palestinians is analogous to the way Nazi Germany forced Jews into the Warsaw ghettos. “Be good little slaves and accept our total domination over you, eat your bread and water and live in squalid conditions, and maybe we won’t kill you.” THAT is Trump’s “two-state solution,” his “Deal of the Century.”

Without a doubt, Gaza is the Auschwitz of our time.

Yep! Donald Trump’s “Deal of the Century” is nothing more than an old-fashioned deal with the devil. Then again, many evangelical Christians and former presidents have made that same deal over the last 70+ years.

- Pastor Chuck Baldwin

https://www.facebook.com/226997970644468/posts/2996141713730066/

TheGreatYacht
02-01-2020, 03:08 PM
Brother of Pastor John Hagee, ex-Harris County Pct. 3 captain accused of sexual assault of a child

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2020/01/30/brother-of-pastor-john-hagee-ex-harris-county-pct-3-captain-accused-of-sexual-assault-of-a-child/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=ksat12

Blake
02-01-2020, 04:57 PM
Brother of Pastor John Hagee, ex-Harris County Pct. 3 captain accused of sexual assault of a child

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2020/01/30/brother-of-pastor-john-hagee-ex-harris-county-pct-3-captain-accused-of-sexual-assault-of-a-child/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=ksat12

Well according to his brother he's still going to heaven

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2020, 01:58 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/pagantakes1/status/1036521471277850624https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a742a64eb8a7da99041faaef6a73ec67

Chris

Chris
02-03-2020, 02:07 AM
Cult of Saturn.

I posted quite a few videos if you can find the thread in this forum.

Chris
02-03-2020, 02:15 AM
searching is disabled but here is part 1


ZvzfPKynOEE

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2020, 02:16 AM
searching is disabled but here is part 1


ZvzfPKynOEE

Haven't seen this one. Thanks :tu

Chris
02-03-2020, 02:54 AM
Haven't seen this one. Thanks :tu

Highly suggest watching all parts and other videos on the Cult of Saturn. Interesting that the "Star of David" was found among relics from Sumerians, the oldest known culture.

ElNono
02-03-2020, 07:48 AM
Highly suggest watching all parts and other videos on the Cult of Saturn. Interesting that the "Star of David" was found among relics from Sumerians, the oldest known culture.

:rollin

spurraider21
02-03-2020, 12:19 PM
searching is disabled but here is part 1


ZvzfPKynOEE
so the conspiracy is that christians have been duped into worshipping a roman god of agriculture and theres a jewish conspiracy behind it?

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2020, 12:26 PM
:rollin

You and I are smart enough to realize that religion is a form of mind control but unfortunately the Jewish supremacists and Zionist elites have used that to their advantage.

And I'm not referring to the average jew. The average jew is just as brainwashed as the average Goyim. I'm specifically referring to the very top of the chain elites. The elites actually do beleive in this stuff. They are satanists.

TheGreatYacht
02-03-2020, 01:16 PM
https://i.4pcdn.org/x/1547453155000.jpg

Chris
02-03-2020, 03:22 PM
so the conspiracy is that christians have been duped into worshipping a roman god of agriculture and theres a jewish conspiracy behind it?

nope, try again

spurraider21
02-03-2020, 03:35 PM
nope, try again
should be pretty easy for you to explain it tbh

Chris
02-03-2020, 03:37 PM
should be pretty easy for you to explain it tbh

nope, try again

spurraider21
02-03-2020, 03:48 PM
nope, try again
wow, shuts down when asked to explain what the youtube is saying...

Chris
02-03-2020, 03:52 PM
wow, shuts down when asked to explain what the youtube is saying...

nope, try again

spurraider21
02-03-2020, 03:53 PM
nope, try again


nope, try again


nope, try again
bot-like behavior

Chris
02-03-2020, 03:59 PM
bot-like behavior

nope, try again

Blake
02-03-2020, 04:11 PM
No wonder Twitter banned Chris

Chris
02-03-2020, 04:15 PM
No wonder Twitter banned Chris

nope, try again

Blake
02-03-2020, 04:22 PM
https://66.media.tumblr.com/1cda597f414096cc6b61ddfacdbd39a2/tumblr_mqray9iwQI1qevt7bo1_500.gif

Chris
02-03-2020, 04:31 PM
Disney+ meme/gif

nope, try again

spurraider21
02-03-2020, 05:00 PM
nope, try again


nope, try again


nope, try again


nope, try again


nope, try again


nope, try again
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/e0/b7/92/e0b79222a4d95e5cd981df6ae308f798--lucy-liu-futurama.jpg

benefactor
02-03-2020, 05:24 PM
^:lol

ElNono
02-03-2020, 11:36 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/e0/b7/92/e0b79222a4d95e5cd981df6ae308f798--lucy-liu-futurama.jpg

:lol

TheGreatYacht
02-14-2020, 11:03 PM
Esau & Jacob: The Ancient Conflict

https://youtu.be/BI32dIhSKYU

Blake
02-15-2020, 12:26 PM
Oh neat. A YouTube Bible story

ElNono
02-15-2020, 04:47 PM
Esau & Jacob: The Ancient Conflict

https://youtu.be/BI32dIhSKYU

But hows the wife?

TheGreatYacht
08-14-2020, 02:45 PM
https://i.ibb.co/DbTfJSP/20200814-143249.jpg https://i.ibb.co/JsZR3Dv/113bcf46571524e3112e0026ce5ab4ce.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/dDnY7yz/thumb-did-you-know-the-apple-logo-represents-the-fall-of-15791992.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/CJ1GQC6/applelogos.jpg

Spurtacular, Chumpettes will say that it's a coincidence.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2020, 02:47 PM
https://i.ibb.co/DbTfJSP/20200814-143249.jpg https://i.ibb.co/JsZR3Dv/113bcf46571524e3112e0026ce5ab4ce.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/dDnY7yz/thumb-did-you-know-the-apple-logo-represents-the-fall-of-15791992.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/CJ1GQC6/applelogos.jpg

Spurtacular, Chumpettes will say that it's a coincidence.
What's your theory?

Blake
08-14-2020, 02:53 PM
https://i.ibb.co/DbTfJSP/20200814-143249.jpg https://i.ibb.co/JsZR3Dv/113bcf46571524e3112e0026ce5ab4ce.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/dDnY7yz/thumb-did-you-know-the-apple-logo-represents-the-fall-of-15791992.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/CJ1GQC6/applelogos.jpg

Spurtacular, Chumpettes will say that it's a coincidence.

Quote the Bible verse that specifically names the fruit as an "Apple".