The official Andrew McCabe Is Doing Awesome Thread

[Spurtacular]

Just another great day for democracy.

[SnakeBoy]

:lol

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1172199426523353095

[Reck]

This is going to be some weak ass case if it ever gets to trial.

It'd be fun to see this can of worns get open. It can only exposed Trump's DOJ. This is a show for Trump first and foremost.

[TSA]

This is going to be some weak ass case if it ever gets to trial.

It'd be fun to see this can of worns get open. It can only exposed Trump's DOJ. This is a show for Trump first and foremost.

https://twitter.com/DavidLeeMAGA/status/1172199838630502400

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/DavidLeeMAGA/status/1172199838630502400

You think he'll actually see the inside of a prison cell is cute. Right along side Susan Rice and Hillary, am I right?

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/DavidLeeMAGA/status/1172199838630502400TSA furiously fapping to twitter QAnon porn.

Is this really what you thought the big prosecution would be after three years of conspiracy posts?

:lmao

[TSA]

You think he'll actually see the inside of a prison cell is cute. Right along side Susan Rice and Hillary, am I right?

Why wouldn't he see time inside a prison cell? Papadapolous saw time for less. Unless you are hoping a two tiered justice system gets McCabe off. Is that what you are hoping for?

[Pavlov]

Why wouldn't he see time inside a prison cell? Papadapolous saw time for less. Unless you are hoping a two tiered justice system gets McCabe off. Is that what you are hoping for?Papadopoulos was on the "pleaded guilty to the crime" tier.

[Reck]

Papadopoulos was on the "pleaded guilty to the crime" tier.

:lmao

[ElNono]

:corn:

[TSA]

This is going to be some weak ass case if it ever gets to trial.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EESNqKiX4AUcIyN?format=jpg&name=900x900

Line prosecutors recommend charges
US prosecutor recommends charges
Deputy Attorney General rejects McCabe appeal
:lol some weak ass case

[Pavlov]

Using the phrase "lack of candor" alone muddies the water for any criminal charges alone since that has more to do with employment violations and disciplinary actions by the employer. Add to that a DC jury and McCabe's chances at acquittal and especially mistrial aren't terrible if it goes to trial.

[MultiTroll]

Anybody gonna die here?
Clintons aren't involved are they?

[Reck]

He lacked candor. ok

I dont think repeating that a dozen times is going to convince a jury to give anyone time. :lol It's like your mother slapping you for being rude.

A salesperson lacked candor at a best buy, gets sentenced to 10 years. :lol TSA

[dabom6]

Is lacking candor a federal crime now? :lol

[Reck]

Is lacking candor a federal crime now? :lol
spurraider21 chime in.

[koriwhat]

i hope mccabe gets the noose tbh. fuck that traitor and those like him.

[Reck]

i hope mccabe gets the noose tbh. fuck that traitor and those like him.

Angry post.

[koriwhat]

Angry post.

i just made $120 in less than 30 mins so what's there to be angry about?

you're just a sad excuse of a man trying to justify your sad existence by claiming bullshit daily. fuck off faggot! grrrr i'm angry!

[Reck]

i just made $120 in less than 30 mins so what's there to be angry about?

you're just a sad excuse of a man trying to justify your sad existence by claiming bullshit daily. fuck off faggot! grrrr i'm angry!

That's how much they giving for head these days? Get it kw, get it.

[spurraider21]

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) chime in.
i'm not a fed crim law expert.

what would the official charges be? false statements to the FBI? lack of candor could just be the FBI manual term for that very conduct. it would be pretty odd if their employee disciplinary language is the same as what would be otherwise found in the US Code as criminal conduct

[DarrinS]

Any moron knows that "lack of candor" is a euphemism for lying. :lol

[koriwhat]

That's how much they giving for head these days? Get it kw, get it.

Angry post.

[Pavlov]

Any moron knows that "lack of candor" is a euphemism for lying. :lolSo why would the accusing party use the euphemism?

[Reck]

So why would the accusing party use the euphemism?

:lol

You would think if that was the case they would just call it lying. Saying person x lied under oath is 100% much more damaging than pussy footing around it and calling it lack of candor.

Would you prefer to tell the jury, this guy lied plain and simple and here's how

or

This guy lacked candor, convict now!

Darrins wants the jury to do the leg work on what this or that means. :lol

[TSA]

i'm not a fed crim law expert.

what would the official charges be? false statements to the FBI? lack of candor could just be the FBI manual term for that very conduct. it would be pretty odd if their employee disciplinary language is the same as what would be otherwise found in the US Code as criminal conduct

Does the term really matter? The OIG recommended a criminal investigation. Line prosecutors recommended to US attorney to charge. US attorney recommended to charge. McCabe cried appeal. Deputy Attorney General told him to pound sand. If they didn’t have a criminal case they were sure they would win they wouldn’t bring it.

The funniest part about this is that this recommended charge is from the first OIG investigation right after the election. The FISC/Russiagate OIG investigation hasn’t even been released. It’s long from over for McCabe.

[Pavlov]

Does the term really matter? The OIG recommended a criminal investigation. Line prosecutors recommended to US attorney to charge. US attorney recommended to charge. McCabe cried appeal. Deputy Attorney General told him to pound sand. If they didn’t have a criminal case they were sure they would win they wouldn’t bring it. Sure they would since this seems like the only halfway prosecutable case in your vast conspiracy.

You wanted Hillary executed for murdering Seth Rich.

You're getting "lack of candor.":lol

[koriwhat]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.louisville.com%2Fsites%2Fdefa ult%2Ffiles%2Fu4022%2Fnoose.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

[spurraider21]

oh look, koriwhat wishing for death on somebody

[ducks]

Spursraider wants to kiss criminals and give them money

[Spurs Homer]

Any moron knows that "lack of candor" is a euphemism for lying. :lol

any moron knows that

”lack of candor”

is not in the us penal code


but go ahead and spike the football because mccabe lacked candor 11,996 times LESS than trump

[TSA]

any moron knows that

”lack of candor”

is not in the us penal code


but go ahead and spike the football because mccabe lacked candor 11,996 times LESS than trump

Both have been investigated, only one is up for charges :rollin

[Spurs Homer]

Both have been investigated, only one is up for charges :rollin

individual-1 is most def up for charges

mccabe

not really

he will recover big bucks in a lawsuit

[boutons_deux]

authorized prosecutors to indict his top former FBI official, Andrew McCabe

over a technicality

over statements he made to other D.O.J. officials and investigative colleagues as they probed his contacts with the press.”

“This kind of an indictment would mark the type of

politicized retaliation or criminalization of public service critics were warning about in the Trump era,”

“Can you think of an example in U.S. history where

a president’s administration indicted the person who ran the FBI or an investigation touching on the president?”

“Never,” Ackerman replied.

“I mean, Nixon didn’t even try this,” Melber noted.
“He was not that stupid,” Ackerman replied.

Melber asked if it was an abuse of power.

“It certainly reeks of that,” Ackerman replied. “The optics are terrible.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/the-optics-are-terrible-watergate-prosecutor-blasts-ag-bill-barr-for-destroying-dojs-credibility/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/the-optics-are-terrible-watergate-prosecutor-blasts-ag-bill-barr-for-destroying-dojs-credibility/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

McCabe took over investigation of Trash after Trash fired Comey, so Trash's vendetta must punish McCabe for doing his job.

[Pavlov]

Both have been investigated, only one is up for charges :rollin:lol the same charges you say are nothing.

[Spurtacular]

TSA furiously fapping to twitter QAnon porn.

Is this really what you thought the big prosecution would be after three years of conspiracy posts?

:lmao

:cry A former acting head of FBI is small potatoes :cry

lol dump

[spurraider21]

Spursraider wants to kiss criminals
your wife is a criminal?

[Winehole23]

TSA furiously fapping to twitter QAnon porn.

Is this really what you thought the big prosecution would be after three years of conspiracy posts?

:lmaoMcCabe referred for prosecution for leaking about Hillary Clinton...he was obviously in the tank for her.

[koriwhat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyd8dY8rRtA

[Chucho]

your wife is a criminal?

If ugly was a crime, she'd be on death row.

[Reck]

If ugly was a crime, she'd be on death row.

:lol

[ducks]

Andrew McCabe irks some CNN colleagues: ‘I have no sympathies for him’

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-contributor-andrew-mccabe

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1172534944398217220

:lol Didn't I just talked about the possibility about a no indictment return by the grand jury when Chris and TSA were doing victory laps yesterday?

If this turns out to be the case, :lmao Trump and his DOJ

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1172534944398217220

:lol Didn't I just talked about the possibility about a no indictment return by the grand jury when Chris and TSA were doing victory laps yesterday?

If this turns out to be the case, :lmao Trump and his DOJIt's been a year and a half.

What's the holdup?

[Chris]

McCabe's legal team said move along nothing to see here?

Thanks Scoop!

[Reck]

McCabe's legal team said move along nothing to see here?

Thanks Scoop!

That is not what the letter says. Hell it's spelled out in the tweet for you. :lol

[Pavlov]

McCabe's legal team said move along nothing to see here?

Thanks Scoop!Tick-tock

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1172534944398217220

:lol Didn't I just talked about the possibility about a no indictment return by the grand jury when Chris and TSA were doing victory laps yesterday?

If this turns out to be the case, :lmao Trump and his DOJ

When the reports of a possible indictment for Andrew McCabe surfaced, we noted it would be interesting to see how the Lawfare alliance responds. Today we can see that response.

Andrew McCabe’s defense attorney, Michael Bromwich (also the attorney for ‘beach friend’ Christine Blasey-Ford in the Kavanaugh narrative), leaks his communication with U.S. Attorney for DC, Jessie Liu, to the New York Times.

Leaks to the NYT and WaPo are how the Lawfare alliance push their narrative. These are the same DOJ/FBI officials who leaked to the same media when constructing the Russian Conspiracy narrative around the Trump campaign. [Same exact people]

(NYT) […] In a letter sent late on Thursday, defense lawyers asked whether a grand jury had considered charges against Mr. McCabe, who is being investigated over whether he lied to internal investigators about interactions with news media. The letter came shortly after the Justice Department told Mr. McCabe’s lawyers that it had rejected their pitch to the deputy attorney general to drop the case.
“It is clear that no indictment has been returned,” the lawyers wrote, citing coverage of the case by The New York Times and The Washington Post. A grand jury hearing evidence that was recalled on Thursday after months of inactivity left for the day without any sign of an indictment, The Post reported. None had emerged on Friday. (more)

The purpose for the letter is to push information gained within the Lawfare network into the media narrative. It is transparently obvious that Lawfare allied lawyers who left the U.S. Attorneys Office in DC are leaking what they know to the Lawfare allied members on McCabe’s defense; this is simply how they operate.

Notice the informality of the letter from Michael Bromwich to U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu. The tone is part of the overall group dynamic. This is a social circle of former and current connected legal interests within the Dept. of Justice.

Bromwich cannot directly say he is aware of Grand Jury evidence, because such information would be illegal to acquire. However, current and former DOJ officials can leak to the Times and Washington Post, and Bromwich can then cite the reporting on those leaks. Everyone knows the game, the bastardization of justice is all done with an internal wink and a nod.

The Lawfare objective is for the media and McCabe’s defense to push out information about how a grand jury may have not returned an indictment in 2018, a ‘no true bill’ finding.

Pushing this information into the public sphere supports the objective of the defense; however, the Lawfare alliance cannot admit how they gained that information -leaks from allies inside the DOJ- because that would be illegal.

In addition to Andrew McCabe and Michael Bromwich, the Lawfare alliance includes: former FBI legal counsel James Baker, former DOJ-NSD lawyer David Laufman (who also represented Monica McLean, Blasey-Ford’s FBI bestie and narrative engineer friend), former SDNY U.S. Attorney Daniel Goldman; Lawfare head Benamin Wittes; James Comey’s leaking buddie Daniel Richman; Obama Administration lawyer Norm Eisen; criminal defense attorney Barry Berke; and a host of current and former FBI and DOJ foot-soldiers. All of the characters network in the same social circle.

This tribal network then extends outward to their media allies. The Lawfare team leak to specific contacts they have within media… the media then write the articles to the benefit of the Lawfare network and collaborative political interests.

Fusion GPS is part of the Lawfare network as a distribution hub for research information needed by the journalists who are writing on behalf of the Lawfare need. Those of you who have followed politics might remember Ezra Klein’s “Journ-o-List”; the email group of 400+ reporters for multiple media outlets who collectively collaborated on stories.

Journ-O-List was a private Google Groups forum for discussing politics and the news media with 400 “left-leaning” journalists, academics and others. Ezra Klein created the online forum in February 2007 while blogging at The American Prospect and shut it down on June 25, 2010 amid wider public exposure. (link)
After they were exposed the media group closed shop on that specific operation, but they never stopped the process. They simply changed and evolved their methods for group planning, strategy and distribution. The network and purpose continues.

The Lawfare Alliance feeds information into this media network based on need.

FBI Director James Comey, FBI Legal Counsel James Baker, Comey memo recepient Daniel Richman, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Comey friend Benjamin Wittes, FBI lead agent Peter Strzok, FBI counsel Lisa Page, Mueller lead Andrew Weissmann and the Mueller team of lawyers, all of them -and more- are connected to the Lawfare group; and this network provides the sounding board for all of the weaponized approaches, including the various new legal theories we saw outlined within the Weissmann-Mueller Report.

The Lawfare continuum is very simple. The corrupt 2015 Clinton exoneration; which became the corrupt 2016 DOJ/FBI Trump investigation; which became the corrupt 2017 DOJ/FBI Mueller probe; is currently the 2019 “impeachment” plan. Weissmann and Mueller delivered their report to evolve the plan from corrupt legal theory into corrupt political targeting. Every phase within the continuum holds the same goal.

And so it goes…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/13/mccabes-lawfare-alliance-working-with-media-allies-to-frame-defense/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[TSA]

McCabe's legal team said move along nothing to see here?

Thanks Scoop!

Also Blasey-Ford’s lawyer :lol

[Pavlov]

Also Blasey-Ford’s lawyer :lolYou just posted a grocer's blog.

[TSA]

Timing of McCabe’s lawyer leaking the letter now makes sense

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1172601980725993477

[TSA]

Timing of McCabe’s lawyer leaking the letter now makes sense

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1172601980725993477

PROCESS: The completion of the draft report indicates: (1) the investigation has concluded; (2) the IG referencer checks are now complete; and (3) the draft is submitted to the DOJ (AG Bill Barr) and FBI (Christopher Wray) for a review.

Depending on the size, scale and content of the report a classification review could take several weeks. This is where President Trump previously granting AG Bill Barr authority to make declassification decisions will come into play. Ultimately the decision on what can be released is now in the hands of U.S. Attorney General William Barr.

Memorandum Here
White House Statement Here
AG Bill Barr’s May 23rd, 2019, declassification authority covers investigative material from the DOJ, FBI, Central Intelligence Agency, State Department, Treasury Department, Department of Energy, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

How much AG Bill Barr will declassify is an unknown; and this part will most likely be the source of a great deal of debate and political positioning.

After the classification review, and possible declassification determinations by AG Bill Barr, the draft report will be returned to the Office of Inspector General for a Final Draft assembly. Any information remaining classified will be placed into a separate “Classified Appendix” that will not be public.

The Final Draft could, likely will, be shared with key stakeholders who are outlined within the report during the Principal Review Phase (generally two/three weeks). Here the IG may accept feedback on the investigative findings. If the IG accepts feedback for placement in the report; the referencer will generally provide additional material specific to the allowed response from the principal(s), with further comment from the IG.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/13/inspector-general-horowitz-completes-investigation-notifies-congress-of-classification-review/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Pavlov]

Is there an indictment?

[Chris]

Also Blasey-Ford’s lawyer :lol

wReck :lol

[Reck]

wReck :lol

QChris cant even name tag right. :lol

You and TSA jerking each other last night expecting an indictment that never came.

[TSA]

QChris cant even name tag right. :lol

You and TSA jerking each other last night expecting an indictment that never came.

:lol you thinking there would or wouldn’t be an indictment last night

[Reck]

:lol you thinking there would or wouldn’t be an indictment last night

You and QChris sure as fuck were expecting it. :lol Even bumping months old posts.

[Spurs Homer]

When the reports of a possible indictment for Andrew McCabe surfaced, we noted it would be interesting to see how the Lawfare alliance responds. Today we can see that response.

Andrew McCabe’s defense attorney, Michael Bromwich (also the attorney for ‘beach friend’ Christine Blasey-Ford in the Kavanaugh narrative), leaks his communication with U.S. Attorney for DC, Jessie Liu, to the New York Times.

Leaks to the NYT and WaPo are how the Lawfare alliance push their narrative. These are the same DOJ/FBI officials who leaked to the same media when constructing the Russian Conspiracy narrative around the Trump campaign. [Same exact people]

(NYT) […] In a letter sent late on Thursday, defense lawyers asked whether a grand jury had considered charges against Mr. McCabe, who is being investigated over whether he lied to internal investigators about interactions with news media. The letter came shortly after the Justice Department told Mr. McCabe’s lawyers that it had rejected their pitch to the deputy attorney general to drop the case.
“It is clear that no indictment has been returned,” the lawyers wrote, citing coverage of the case by The New York Times and The Washington Post. A grand jury hearing evidence that was recalled on Thursday after months of inactivity left for the day without any sign of an indictment, The Post reported. None had emerged on Friday. (more)

The purpose for the letter is to push information gained within the Lawfare network into the media narrative. It is transparently obvious that Lawfare allied lawyers who left the U.S. Attorneys Office in DC are leaking what they know to the Lawfare allied members on McCabe’s defense; this is simply how they operate.

Notice the informality of the letter from Michael Bromwich to U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu. The tone is part of the overall group dynamic. This is a social circle of former and current connected legal interests within the Dept. of Justice.

Bromwich cannot directly say he is aware of Grand Jury evidence, because such information would be illegal to acquire. However, current and former DOJ officials can leak to the Times and Washington Post, and Bromwich can then cite the reporting on those leaks. Everyone knows the game, the bastardization of justice is all done with an internal wink and a nod.

The Lawfare objective is for the media and McCabe’s defense to push out information about how a grand jury may have not returned an indictment in 2018, a ‘no true bill’ finding.

Pushing this information into the public sphere supports the objective of the defense; however, the Lawfare alliance cannot admit how they gained that information -leaks from allies inside the DOJ- because that would be illegal.

In addition to Andrew McCabe and Michael Bromwich, the Lawfare alliance includes: former FBI legal counsel James Baker, former DOJ-NSD lawyer David Laufman (who also represented Monica McLean, Blasey-Ford’s FBI bestie and narrative engineer friend), former SDNY U.S. Attorney Daniel Goldman; Lawfare head Benamin Wittes; James Comey’s leaking buddie Daniel Richman; Obama Administration lawyer Norm Eisen; criminal defense attorney Barry Berke; and a host of current and former FBI and DOJ foot-soldiers. All of the characters network in the same social circle.

This tribal network then extends outward to their media allies. The Lawfare team leak to specific contacts they have within media… the media then write the articles to the benefit of the Lawfare network and collaborative political interests.

Fusion GPS is part of the Lawfare network as a distribution hub for research information needed by the journalists who are writing on behalf of the Lawfare need. Those of you who have followed politics might remember Ezra Klein’s “Journ-o-List”; the email group of 400+ reporters for multiple media outlets who collectively collaborated on stories.

Journ-O-List was a private Google Groups forum for discussing politics and the news media with 400 “left-leaning” journalists, academics and others. Ezra Klein created the online forum in February 2007 while blogging at The American Prospect and shut it down on June 25, 2010 amid wider public exposure. (link)
After they were exposed the media group closed shop on that specific operation, but they never stopped the process. They simply changed and evolved their methods for group planning, strategy and distribution. The network and purpose continues.

The Lawfare Alliance feeds information into this media network based on need.

FBI Director James Comey, FBI Legal Counsel James Baker, Comey memo recepient Daniel Richman, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Comey friend Benjamin Wittes, FBI lead agent Peter Strzok, FBI counsel Lisa Page, Mueller lead Andrew Weissmann and the Mueller team of lawyers, all of them -and more- are connected to the Lawfare group; and this network provides the sounding board for all of the weaponized approaches, including the various new legal theories we saw outlined within the Weissmann-Mueller Report.

The Lawfare continuum is very simple. The corrupt 2015 Clinton exoneration; which became the corrupt 2016 DOJ/FBI Trump investigation; which became the corrupt 2017 DOJ/FBI Mueller probe; is currently the 2019 “impeachment” plan. Weissmann and Mueller delivered their report to evolve the plan from corrupt legal theory into corrupt political targeting. Every phase within the continuum holds the same goal.

And so it goes…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/13/mccabes-lawfare-alliance-working-with-media-allies-to-frame-defense/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


TSA: tap dance...juggle...self-pretzel twisting...backflips...tap dance....juggle....backflips...uh... no indictment but but her emails..



:lmao:lmao:lmao

[boutons_deux]

McCabe team pressures DOJ to show cards amid grand jury speculation

A lawyer for Andrew McCabe (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-attorney-recommends-proceeding-with-charges-against-mccabe-as-doj-rejects-last-ditch-appeal), the former FBI official facing the possibility of federal charges, is

making a fresh attempt to pressure prosecutors to drop the case against him –

citing supposed "rumors" that a grand jury has already declined to indict him.

Grand jury proceedings are highly secretive, and the status of McCabe's case remains unclear.

, McCabe's legal team sought to pressure the Justice Department to show its cards,

citing “rumors from reporters starting this morning that the grand jury considering charges against Mr. McCabe had declined to vote an indictment.”

Attorney Michael Bromwich said if this is the case, “

the only fair and just result is for you to accept the grand jury’s decision and end these proceedings.”

They urged the DOJ not to "resubmit" the case if "the evidence presented by your office was insufficient to convince 12 members of the grand jury to find probable cause to believe that Mr. McCabe had committed any crimes."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccabe-team-pressures-doj-to-show-cards

Totally political now under Trash/Barr. Trash's vendetta against McCabe for the Russian investigation.

[dabom6]

TSA: tap dance...juggle...self-pretzel twisting...backflips...tap dance....juggle....backflips...uh... no indictment but but her emails..



:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lol

[TSA]

You and QChris sure as fuck were expecting it. :lol Even bumping months old posts.

Prove I was expecting it that night.

[TSA]

Let me begin with the basics. No competent federal prosecutor should ever get a no true bill from a grand jury. In nearly 20 years as a prosecutor, it not only never happened to me; I could count on one hand the number of times I heard of it happening to any other prosecutor in the office, and still have fingers to spare.

This is not because of the old saw that the deck is so stacked against a suspect in grand-jury proceedings that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich. To be sure, grand-jury proceedings are very one-sided. Still, there are many cases that grand juries do not like and would not charge. Nevertheless, these cases do not result in no true bills. Instead, there is steady dialogue between the prosecutors and the grand jurors over each case. The latter ask questions and, when they are troubled, convey that fact to the former. Before submitting a proposed indictment, it is customary for the prosecutor to ask whether the grand jurors believe they have heard enough evidence, whether they would like to hear from other witnesses, whether they have other concerns, or whether they would like to consider an indictment. The prosecutor is well aware if the grand jury has doubts about the case; if there are indications that the grand jury is not inclined to vote for charges, the prosecutor simply refrains from presenting an indictment.

Bear in mind, moreover, that a grand jury, unlike a trial jury, is not being asked to find proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Its modest task is to determine whether a significantly lower proof hurdle — probable cause — has been met. Also unlike a trial jury, the grand jury need not be unanimous; federal grand juries have up to 23 members, and only 12 need assent for an indictment to be approved. The grand jurors know they are not being asked to convict anyone; just to determine that there is enough evidence to warrant having a trial, at which the defendant will be given all the due-process protections the Constitution ensures. And double-jeopardy principles are not in play at the grand-jury stage as they are at trial: On the rare occasion that a federal grand jury votes a no true bill, prosecutors are free to re-present the case to the same or another grand jury.

Assuming that the false statements capably outlined in the Horowitz report are the only potential crimes under consideration, it is hard to believe any grand jury could find insufficient probable cause to indict. Even McCabe is not claiming that what he told investigators was true; he seems to be saying he didn’t mean to lie (multiple times). When a suspect has committed all the acts necessary for a penal offense, and the only question is whether he had criminal intent, probable cause is usually a given.

Of course, we do not know that the false statements are the only matters under consideration, or even that McCabe is the only subject of the grand jury’s investigation. It is entirely possible that the grand jury has not yet been asked to indict because relevant conduct is still under consideration — conduct related to McCabe, related to other suspects, or both.

And then there is the matter of prejudice to consider.

Besides the ongoing grand-jury investigation of McCabe’s alleged false statements, the former deputy director is also among the current and former officials who are subjects of another IG probe of abuses of power in the Russia investigation. On Friday evening, IG Horowitz wrote a letter to leaders of the Senate and House Judiciary Committees, explaining that his report is substantially complete and is undergoing a classification review to determine what portions may be disclosed. We can safely assume, then, that the release of that report, which is apt to be explosive, is imminent. Meanwhile, Connecticut U.S. attorney John Durham also has an ongoing investigation into the origins of the Russia investigation. There have been reports that Durham is using a grand jury to gather evidence and testimony.

Why are these other investigations germane to what is happening with the Washington grand jury? Well, sometimes, when a suspect is under scrutiny in multiple investigations, the Justice Department will ask the court to seal any indictments returned by the grand jury. That way, there can be no credible claim that the grand jurors in one case were swayed by allegations filed by another grand jury. Relatedly, sometimes if a grand jury’s investigation has not yet been completed, but a major development in another investigation involving the subject — such as an IG report — is about to occur, the Justice Department will ask the grand jury to file charges, but then seal the indictment. That way, it cannot credibly be said that the grand jury’s decision to indict was swayed by negative publicity surrounding developments in the other investigation.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/why-its-unlikely-the-mccabe-grand-jury-voted-against-indictment/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[boutons_deux]

McCabe’s attorney made a particularly telling statement about any attempt to indict McCabe:

“[We are] confident that,

unless there is inappropriate pressure from high levels of the Administration,

the U.S. Attorney’s Office would conclude that it should decline to prosecute.”

Prescient. Very prescient.

And there’s every reason to think the

U.S. Attorney’s Office moved entirely based on a pile of “inappropriate pressure” applied by Barr, or Trump, or both.

In just the last two months, Trump has referred to

McCabe as a “dirty cop,”

a “disgrace,” and

“a major sleazebag.”

McCabe’s attorneys reads,

“We believe that if the grand jury has indeed voted a no true bill,

the Justice Manual compels you

to not resubmit the case to the same or a different grand jury.”

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Harry Litman
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)✔@harrylitman
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)A Grand Jury's refusal to return an indictment is something that happens maybe once every five years in a given office.

If it occurred here, given the magnitude and visibility of the McCabe case,

it is a stunning and humiliating rebuke for overreaching and playing politics.

12:04 PM - Sep 13, 2019 (https://twitter.com/harrylitman/status/1172556617021190144)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/13/1885270/-Trump-and-Barr-get-an-embarrassing-slap-down-as-Grand-Jury-reportedly-will-not-indict-Andrew-McCabe?detail=emaildkre

Trash "testifying", sliming, slandering political opponent McCabe from his Bully Pulpit.

[dabom6]

McCabe’s attorney made a particularly telling statement about any attempt to indict McCabe:

“[We are] confident that,

unless there is inappropriate pressure from high levels of the Administration,

the U.S. Attorney’s Office would conclude that it should decline to prosecute.”

Prescient. Very prescient.

And there’s every reason to think the

U.S. Attorney’s Office moved entirely based on a pile of “inappropriate pressure” applied by Barr, or Trump, or both.

In just the last two months, Trump has referred to

McCabe as a “dirty cop,”

a “disgrace,” and

“a major sleazebag.”

McCabe’s attorneys reads,

“We believe that if the grand jury has indeed voted a no true bill,

the Justice Manual compels you

to not resubmit the case to the same or a different grand jury.”

============

Harry Litman
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)✔@harrylitman
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)
(https://twitter.com/harrylitman)A Grand Jury's refusal to return an indictment is something that happens maybe once every five years in a given office.

If it occurred here, given the magnitude and visibility of the McCabe case,

it is a stunning and humiliating rebuke for overreaching and playing politics.

12:04 PM - Sep 13, 2019 (https://twitter.com/harrylitman/status/1172556617021190144)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/13/1885270/-Trump-and-Barr-get-an-embarrassing-slap-down-as-Grand-Jury-reportedly-will-not-indict-Andrew-McCabe?detail=emaildkre

Trash "testifying", sliming, slandering political opponent McCabe from his Bully Pulpit.




:lol

[dabom6]

When TSAbitch and Chrissy girl are on the case. :lmao :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Did mccabe get matching prison jumpsuits with comey?

uh- er wait!


sorry i was thinking of paulie and the fixer in their jumpsuits!


lolololol

[koriwhat]

Did mccabe get matching prison jumpsuits with comey?

uh- er wait!


sorry i was thinking of paulie and the fixer in their jumpsuits!


lolololol

don't lie, you don't know how to think let alone critically. you're a fucking mentally ill retard.

[Spurs Homer]

don't lie, you don't know how to think let alone critically. you're a fucking mentally ill retard.


koritwat: “trump 12000 lies plus treason - nothing to see hear!”


“Mccabe - broke company policy - cut his head off!!!”


lol

[koriwhat]

koritwat: “trump 12000 lies plus treason - nothing to see hear!”


“Mccabe - broke company policy - cut his head off!!!”


lol

you literally need help... you know, like a psyche-ward, a padded room, and a straight jacket. you're a cause of concern for all in public.

those like you deserve nothing less.

[spurraider21]

Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe won't be charged, Justice Department says (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-charged-justice-department/story?id=68989166)

[Spurs Homer]

koritwat: “trump 12000 lies plus treason - nothing to see hear!”


“Mccabe - broke company policy - cut his head off!!!”


lol

no one will bat an eye that just a couple of months ago

trumps lie count was ONLY at 12000 lies confirmed-


today - well OVER 16000


let that sink in....


would anyone here KEEP anyone in THEIR lives that had lied TO YOUR FACE

just 10-20 times——



let alone 16000 times...



oh yeah btw-




MCCABE = called that shit!

[Spurs Homer]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/politics/andrew-mccabe-donald-trump-department-of-justice/index.html



:lmao:lmao:lmao



Deeep state conspiracy in the shitter!

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/politics/andrew-mccabe-donald-trump-department-of-justice/index.html



:lmao:lmao:lmao



Deeep state conspiracy in the shitter!

Yep, & CNN is going to parade him across the shows all weekend long.

[Spurs Homer]

Yep, & CNN is going to parade him across the shows all weekend long.

culb


lets boil down what this means - all bullshit aside -
let us boil it down and then

please answer the question lingering afterwards....


we know there is/never was- a deep state or a deep state conspiracy-

which of course means- trump did what we all said he did-

he cheated the 2016 election/accepted russias help (whether Mueller failed to prove conspiracy on his own or with Barr corrupting the investigation- we will find out later)

meaning- your cult leader is pretty fucking treasonous and sold out the usa



so...


why Culbear- why support someone who is not faithful to our country?


why?

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culb


lets boil down what this means - all bullshit aside -
let us boil it down and then

please answer the question lingering afterwards....


we know there is/never was- a deep state or a deep state conspiracy-

which of course means- trump did what we all said he did-

he cheated the 2016 election/accepted russias help (whether Mueller failed to prove conspiracy on his own or with Barr corrupting the investigation- we will find out later)

meaning- your cult leader is pretty fucking treasonous and sold out the usa



so...


why Culbear- why support someone who is not faithful to our country?


why?

I disagree, Homer, I heartily believe there was & is a deep state. (It) made a conscious decision to thwart Trump at every turn & they've never turned from that commitment, that bent. Refusing to charge McCabe changes nothing.

[Spurs Homer]

I disagree, Homer, I heartily believe there was & is a deep state. (It) made a conscious decision to thwart Trump at every turn & they've never turned from that commitment, that bent. Refusing to charge McCabe changes nothing.

wrong

mccabe opened a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation into DJT

meaning- there was enough evidence that DJT was or might be coordinating with an enemy foreign govt to corrupt our democracy- to corrupt our democratic elections-

DJT labeled it all a HOAX and people like you went along and were complicit in this russian inspired propaganda


McCabe was just cleared

meaning


NO HOAX

mccabe LAWFULLY and rightfully opened that investigation and there WAS evidence of trump treason


there is no deep state - if there was

mccabe and co would be facing indictments and would be called criminals

they are not

DJT did this and more


what makes you take his side OVER your own country?

[TSA]

wrong

mccabe opened a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation into DJT

meaning- there was enough evidence that DJT was or might be coordinating with an enemy foreign govt to corrupt our democracy- to corrupt our democratic elections-

DJT labeled it all a HOAX and people like you went along and were complicit in this russian inspired propaganda


McCabe was just cleared

meaning


NO HOAX

mccabe LAWFULLY and rightfully opened that investigation and there WAS evidence of trump treason


there is no deep state - if there was

mccabe and co would be facing indictments and would be called criminals

they are not

DJT did this and more


what makes you take his side OVER your own country?
lets boil this down

:lol stupid fuck doesn't even know that the news on McCabe today had nothing to do with the investigation into Trump/Russia
:lol stupid fuck doesn't even realize the Durham investigation into Comey, McCabe, Brennan, etc is still ongoing

spurraider21 this type of shit is why I don't have him on ignore, it's just too easy.

[spurraider21]

lets boil this down

:lol stupid fuck doesn't even know that the news on McCabe today had nothing to do with the investigation into Trump/Russia
:lol stupid fuck doesn't even realize the Durham investigation into Comey, McCabe, Brennan, etc is still ongoing

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) this type of shit is why I don't have him on ignore, it's just too easy.
thats a reason to ignore him. rarely anything intelligible. just a lot of rambling

[TSA]

thats a reason to ignore him. rarely anything intelligible. just a lot of rambling

I can't pass up shitting on the guy who runs to bump a thread celebrating McCabe when not even know which investigation he was cleared of.

[Thread]

wrong

mccabe opened a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation into DJT

meaning- there was enough evidence that DJT was or might be coordinating with an enemy foreign govt to corrupt our democracy- to corrupt our democratic elections-

DJT labeled it all a HOAX and people like you went along and were complicit in this russian inspired propaganda


McCabe was just cleared

meaning


NO HOAX

mccabe LAWFULLY and rightfully opened that investigation and there WAS evidence of trump treason


there is no deep state - if there was

mccabe and co would be facing indictments and would be called criminals

they are not

DJT did this and more


what makes you take his side OVER your own country?

...because I know how this country can be. Instead of taking the loss & making the best of it, "you" shit all over it, cheat him at every turn & attempt to steal what is his. "We can lie, cheat and steal because we ain't POTUS." Instead of tossing the towel, grabbing the children & Mel & going back to the Tower he instead lies, cheats & steals to thwart you, Homer, to combat you, to keep what he won.

Me? I'd a been back in the Tower long ago. Life is too short.

[Spurs Homer]

lets boil this down


:lol stupid fuck doesn't even know that the news on McCabe today had nothing to do with the investigation into Trump/Russia
:lol stupid fuck doesn't even realize the Durham investigation into Comey, McCabe, Brennan, etc is still ongoing

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) this type of shit is why I don't have him on ignore, it's just too easy.


#1- the ONLY reason mccabe was investigated was because the traitor in chief had his henchmen investigate him and the ONLY reason that happened is because mccabe opened an investigation into trump and trump had to retaliate

otherwise trump has ZERO reason to magically hold a grudge over some fbi career guy

you are stupid if you believe the biggest liar on the planet

#2- the Durham sham is more of the same

there is ZERO reason any of these obscure fbi career agents would even be known to anyone - EVER-

except that the traitor was busted and started his russian tactics to “investigate the investigators”
because that is all he has

he cannot allow investigations into his treason just go - and allow the truth to exonerate him-


he has to do what russia taught him-

when you get caught- just deny,deflect and turn it all around and attack the people investigating you.


only idiots believe the biggest liar on the planet


so

what happened to your deep state?

oh yeah- that was russian bullshit- rube

[TSA]

#1- the ONLY reason mccabe was investigated was because the traitor in chief had his henchmen investigate him and the ONLY reason that happened is because mccabe opened an investigation into trump and trump had to retaliate

otherwise trump has ZERO reason to magically hold a grudge over some fbi career guy

you are stupid if you believe the biggest liar on the planet

#2- the Durham sham is more of the same

there is ZERO reason any of these obscure fbi career agents would even be known to anyone - EVER-

except that the traitor was busted and started his russian tactics to “investigate the investigators”
because that is all he has

he cannot allow investigations into his treason just go - and allow the truth to exonerate him-


he has to do what russia taught him-

when you get caught- just deny,deflect and turn it all around and attack the people investigating you.


only idiots believe the biggest liar on the planet


so

what happened to your deep state?

oh yeah- that was russian bullshit- rube

Actually McCabe got caught up in the OIG investigation the Democrats called for after the 2016 election.

You really have no fucking clue what you’re talking about :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Tack on another complete and total exoneration for the Deep State.:tu

[TSA]

:lol Trump had zero reason to hold a grudge

These career FBI guys being investigated were running an illegal FISA surveillance operation on a member of his campaign

[ChumpDumper]

All Dennison had to do was let them do their jobs and everything would've ended in mid-2017 with no problems.

:lol you rubes worship him for needlessly fucking himself.

[spurraider21]

:lol Trump had zero reason to hold a grudge
:lmao

[TSA]

:lmao

You’ll have to take Spurs Homer off ignore to understand my quote :lol

[Splits]

I have a feeling that the search being disabled right now is really helping TSA...Didn't that faggot predict McCabe going down on multiple counts?

[TSA]

I have a feeling that the search being disabled right now is really helping TSA...Didn't that faggot predict McCabe going down on multiple counts?

I probably did. The OIG criminally referred him for lying under oath to both the FBI and OIG. Why wouldn’t I think he’d be charged?

Do you believe there should be a two tiered justice system where people like McCabe skate for lying to the FBI and people like Papadapolus serve time for lying to the FBI?

By the way McCabe is still under investigation.

[ChumpDumper]

I probably did. The OIG criminally referred him for lying under oath to both the FBI and OIG. Why wouldn’t I think he’d be charged?

Do you believe there should be a two tiered justice system where people like McCabe skate for lying to the FBI and people like Papadapolus serve time for lying to the FBI?I think people on the "pleaded guilty to a felony" tier should probably pay the penalty.

[RandomGuy]

Tack on another complete and total exoneration for the Deep State.:tu

Is it an unlawful exoneration? :rollin

[Spurs Homer]

Mccabe and comey in prison yet?

strock?
page?
ohr?
Brennan?
hillary?

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[TSA]

Mccabe and comey in prison yet?

strock?
page?
ohr?
Brennan?
hillary?

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

6 out of 7 still under federal investigation :rollin

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1228447191519285249

https://mobile.twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1228450031868366849

[ChumpDumper]

6 out of 7 still under federal investigation :rollinHow many years you gonna kick det can?

[Spurs Homer]

6 out of 7 still under trump/barr sham russian directed investigation :rollin


fify

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All Dennison had to do was let them do their jobs and everything would've ended in mid-2017 with no problems.

:lol you rubes worship him for needlessly fucking himself.

It will never end, Dumps:::4, 8 years,,,then on to the grave, then the children. He took up with the wrong mother fuckers.

Not only teaches the old man a lesson,,,sends word ahead for any other wise guy who gets a notion to make President.