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Trill Clinton
09-13-2019, 01:02 PM
What not to study: The 20 college majors with the highest unemployment rates (https://www.businessinsider.com/college-degrees-with-the-highest-unemployment-rates)

20. International Relations
19. Visual and Performing Arts
18. Commercial art and Graphic Design
17. Foreign language
16. Industrial production technologies
15. Industrial and organizational psychology
14. Composition and rhetoric
13. Mathematics and computer science
12. United States history
11. Fine arts
10. Communication technologies
9. Actuarial science
8. Public policy
7. Drama and theater arts
6. Miscellaneous fine arts
5. Mass media
4. Film video and photographic arts
3. Materials engineering and materials science
2. Cognitive science and biopsychology
1. Petroleum Engineering

BD24
09-13-2019, 01:45 PM
Hmm. Odd they combined mathematics and Computer Science. I find it hard to believe the unemployment rate for Comp Sci is bad tbh

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 03:09 PM
Computer science? Actuarial science? Petroleum engineering? What kind of crack is that writer on

phxspurfan
09-13-2019, 03:40 PM
Horrible list tbh. So many unemployed English majors though. That should be tops, with History and Art History, as well as music majors (sadly).

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 03:47 PM
Computer science? Actuarial science? Petroleum engineering? What kind of crack is that writer on

What are you talking about?

Mitch
09-13-2019, 03:58 PM
Too many people jumped on the petroleum engineering bandwagon, tbh. I don't know the stats for the job market, but I know you can find a fresh graduate easier than a lot of other engineers

Xevious
09-13-2019, 04:38 PM
I can't imagine an 18-year-old ever saying that they are going to college for a public policy degree.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 04:40 PM
Horrible list tbh. So many unemployed English majors though. That should be tops, with History and Art History, as well as music majors (sadly).

yeah... this is easily the dumbest list I've ever seen


It's almost impossible for a Music major to get a W2 job at all unless they double major in education and even then there's a lot more of a supply of these people than music teachers/band director vacancies in schools, so the competition is intense and plenty of people are left standing in the musical chairs game (pun intended).

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 04:43 PM
Too many people jumped on the petroleum engineering bandwagon, tbh. I don't know the stats for the job market, but I know you can find a fresh graduate easier than a lot of other engineers

yes, but #1 on the list over all the liberal arts and social "sciences" and such is just ridiculous. Last time I checked, PetE still has among the highest average starting salaries.

https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/compensation/petroleum-engineering-projected-as-top-paid-class-of-2016-engineering-major/

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 05:04 PM
yes, but #1 on the list over all the liberal arts and social "sciences" and such is just ridiculous. Last time I checked, PetE still has among the highest average starting salaries.

https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/compensation/petroleum-engineering-projected-as-top-paid-class-of-2016-engineering-major/

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 05:06 PM
You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Seems like you're the one, tbh.

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 05:18 PM
Seems like you're the one, tbh.

There’s really no point in trying to show you why you’re wrong because you’ll just ignore it or change the subject. You should really do more research before you post. Using starting salary as a stand alone indicator of employment rates for all industries is flawed.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 05:30 PM
There’s really no point in trying to show you why you’re wrong because you’ll just ignore it or change the subject. You should really do more research before you post. Using starting salary as a stand alone indicator of employment rates for all industries is flawed.

saying an Engineering major has worse job prospects out of college than a liberal arts or Music major is severely retarded.

spurraider21
09-13-2019, 05:33 PM
tbh a lot of these majors are complete horseshit as 4 year degrees and really function as stopgaps before getting into a postgrad program

poly sci into law school is very common, for example. but wtf are you going to do with nothing but a poli sci degree? jack shit

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 05:44 PM
saying an Engineering major has worse job prospects out of college than a liberal arts or Music major is severely retarded.

We’re not talking about an engineering major in general but specifically, a petroleum engineer.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 05:54 PM
tbh a lot of these majors are complete horseshit as 4 year degrees and really function as stopgaps before getting into a postgrad program

poly sci into law school is very common, for example. but wtf are you going to do with nothing but a poli sci degree? jack shit

become a "community organizer"

become senator

pay people to change your birth certificate from Kenya to Hawaii

become president

?????

profit

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 05:56 PM
We’re not talking about an engineering major in general but specifically, a petroleum engineer.

Pet.E. is generally considered the cream of the engineering crop, civil engineering is usually considered the runt of the litter. Very few universities even offer Pet.E., even many large flagships in the US don't. I think for Texas it's either A&M or Tech, but most states are lucky to have one.

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 06:03 PM
Pet.E. is generally considered the cream of the engineering crop, civil engineering is usually considered the runt of the litter. Very few universities even offer Pet.E., even many large flagships in the US don't. I think for Texas it's either A&M or Tech, but most states are lucky to have one.

Who cares if it’s the cream of the crop. It’s employment in one of the most cyclical industries in the country. One where a downturn means 100,000+ jobs cut. And those never fully return. Technology also has enabled one person to do a job that used to take a whole staff.

Amyway, what’s your basis for disagreeing with the op? Surely you have some data.

spurraider21
09-13-2019, 06:09 PM
become a "community organizer"

become senator

pay people to change your birth certificate from Kenya to Hawaii

become president

?????

profit
obama went to harvard law school and got his JD

Mitch
09-13-2019, 06:50 PM
yes, but #1 on the list over all the liberal arts and social "sciences" and such is just ridiculous. Last time I checked, PetE still has among the highest average starting salaries.

https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/compensation/petroleum-engineering-projected-as-top-paid-class-of-2016-engineering-major/

Andy quit quoting me, go pork your hamnbeast or soemthing before you clock out at bath and bodyworks :lol

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 09:17 PM
Who cares if it’s the cream of the crop. It’s employment in one of the most cyclical industries in the country. One where a downturn means 100,000+ jobs cut. And those never fully return. Technology also has enabled one person to do a job that used to take a whole staff.

Amyway, what’s your basis for disagreeing with the op? Surely you have some data.

I don't disagree with that, but they do "return" at some point in an inflationary economy.

Obviously the job market for that was better before late 2014 when gas (in Texas, for example) went from $3.79 to close to 2 bucks.

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 09:18 PM
obama went to harvard law school and got his JD

I know Obama did..> I'm just saying what you can do with a poly sci degree as a completely non-professional type of worker and have great success. But of course that's an outlier. That post was intended to be a joke.

Trainwreck2100
09-13-2019, 09:19 PM
jesus christ those arts medians are atrocious

Millennial_Messiah
09-13-2019, 09:26 PM
jesus christ those arts medians are atrocious
If you're lucky enough to even get a steady job. Many of those medians are teacher salaries. Because academia is often the only realistic career path for many of those.

SpursforSix
09-13-2019, 11:20 PM
I don't disagree with that, but they do "return" at some point in an inflationary economy.

Obviously the job market for that was better before late 2014 when gas (in Texas, for example) went from $3.79 to close to 2 bucks.

1) No...all those jobs don’t return.
2) Petroleum engineer employment has very little to do with gas prices. Both are reactionary to oil and natural gas prices.

You need to stick to talking about things you understand. Hopefully one day you find what that is.

InRareForm
09-13-2019, 11:59 PM
You can teach English online for $20-25 an hour with any degree

Millennial_Messiah
09-14-2019, 02:11 AM
1) No...all those jobs don’t return.
2) Petroleum engineer employment has very little to do with gas prices. Both are reactionary to oil and natural gas prices.


well, yeah, technically I named correlative variables not a true X and Y, but you get the concept

koriwhat
09-14-2019, 06:31 PM
90% of college has been phased out by the internet tbh. worthless waste of money unless you're going into a specialized field.

Millennial_Messiah
09-14-2019, 10:25 PM
90% of college has been phased out by the internet tbh. worthless waste of money unless you're going into a specialized field.

or you're just going to meet cool bros/potentially lifelong friends, and get pussy tbh.