Drone strikes knock out half of Saudi oil capacity, 5 million barrels a day

[RandomGuy]

5% of global supply taken out in strike.


Abu Dhabi (CNN)Drone strikes on Saudi Arabian oil facilities have disrupted about half of the kingdom's oil capacity, or 5% of the daily global oil supply, people with knowledge of Saudi's oil operations told CNN Business.

Yemen's Houthi rebels on Saturday took responsibility for the attacks, saying 10 drones targeted state-owned Saudi Aramco oil facilities in Abqaiq and Khurais, according to the Houthi-run Al-Masirah news agency.
Five million barrels per day of crude production have been impacted after fires raged at the sites, one of them the world's largest oil production facility, people with knowledge of the kingdom's operations said. The latest OPEC figures from August 2019 put the total Saudi production at 9.8 million barrels per day.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/business/saudi-oil-output-impacted-drone-attack/index.html

Edit:
There is always a tweet.

Always.

926872941916143616

[hater]

:lmao that American missile defense systems :lmao

Sauds need to buy the Russian S400 ASAP if they want to survive tbqh

[SnakeBoy]

It's a good day for oil & gas investors. $100/barrel coming up.

[FrostKing]

EPIC

[boutons_deux]

https://www.google.com/search?q=saudi+oil+fires+images&sxsrf=ACYBGNRBX6J-aDmroecJz4La9nDHuAY-xQ:1568488916096&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=5aiWuaeU6E49yM%253A%252CU0XpoTN2re0lfM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTo_c7kkb_CmXwUcNo892Q13XMYoQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip_rXFhNHkAhX5FjQIHdFECe0Q9QEwAHoECAkQB g#imgrc=7OsMzteKOAUOqM:&vet=1

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.google.com/search?q=saudi+oil+fires+images&sxsrf=ACYBGNRBX6J-aDmroecJz4La9nDHuAY-xQ:1568488916096&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=5aiWuaeU6E49yM%253A%252CU0XpoTN2re0lfM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTo_c7kkb_CmXwUcNo892Q13XMYoQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip_rXFhNHkAhX5FjQIHdFECe0Q9QEwAHoECAkQB g#imgrc=7OsMzteKOAUOqM:&vet=1

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281105&p=9926646&viewfull=1#post9926646

[TheGreatYacht]

BADASS. NIiiiiice.

[DarrinS]

Good thing we are the world's largest supplier.

[SnakeBoy]

Good thing we are the world's largest supplier.

Won't help prices but our struggling shale producers are doing a happy dance right now.

[Pavlov]

Good thing we are the world's largest supplier.Darrin still laboring under the impression everything is isolated.

[TheGreatYacht]

When is Trump gonna fire Mike Pompeo?

https://mobile.twitter.com/tparsi/status/1172983072364617728

[RandomGuy]

It's a good day for oil & gas investors. $100/barrel coming up.

Inverted yield curve + falling business investment + soaring energy prices +trade war= recession

The only thing keeping the economy moving has been consumer sentiment.

Care to guess where that goes when gas prices double?

[Ghazi]

oh shit, didn't see this thread

:lmao Saudis

[TheGreatYacht]

Houthis Bomb Major Saudi Oil Facility, Pompeo Blames Iran & Assange To Remain Jailed AFTER Sentence

https://youtu.be/IYEx5MKDWT0

[hater]

Pompeo and the other bitches like Mike penis and Little Marco and gayhram are kicking and screaming but ain't shit gonna hapoen

Cause Iran has the missiles to turn American sailors into floating ocean debree

[TimmyBuckets]

EPIC

[RandomGuy]

Trump: US 'locked and loaded depending on verification' of attack on Saudi oil field


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump on Sunday evening tweeted that the US has "reason to believe that we know" who is responsible for an attack on a Saudi Arabian oil field and the country is "locked and loaded depending on verification" following the crippling strike.

"Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!" Trump said.
Trump's tweet, which appeared to raise the specter of a US military response, served to ratchet up tensions in a region already on edge after Saturday's audacious attack on the Saudi oil field.
Trump used similar language in June when he announced he had called off an attack on Iran just as the US was "cocked & loaded" to strike because he decided it would cause too many deaths for a proportionate response to Tehran's downing of a US drone.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/15/politics/trump-us-saudi-arabia-attack-iran-iraq/index.html

[RandomGuy]

It's a good day for oil & gas investors. $100/barrel coming up.


Saudi Arabia Says Iranian Weapons Were Used in Strikes on Oil Facilities
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/16/world/middleeast/saudi-oil.html

------------------------------------------------

We have a lot of evidence that Saudi money has been part and parcel of Trump family business financing.

American foreign policy has been unusually friendly to the Saudis, at Trumps behest, even going so far as to ignore bipartisan Congressional actions limiting support for their war in the wake of our "friends" murdering and dismembering a journalist in their embassy.

You have ignored the implications of the mountains of conflicts of interest from Trump family business dealings, and now we stand on the precipice of a massive regional war on the Saudi's behalf.


Trump: US 'locked and loaded' against attackers of Saudi oil facility 'depending on verification'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-saudi-arabia-attack-locked-loaded-iran

[boutons_deux]

So Trash is compromised by his failed cash-starved, heavily indebted life, beholden to, AT LEAST, Pootin and the Saudis.

[SnakeBoy]

Saudi Arabia Says Iranian Weapons Were Used in Strikes on Oil Facilities
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/16/world/middleeast/saudi-oil.html

------------------------------------------------

We have a lot of evidence that Saudi money has been part and parcel of Trump family business financing.

American foreign policy has been unusually friendly to the Saudis, at Trumps behest, even going so far as to ignore bipartisan Congressional actions limiting support for their war in the wake of our "friends" murdering and dismembering a journalist in their embassy.

You have ignored the implications of the mountains of conflicts of interest from Trump family business dealings, and now we stand on the precipice of a massive regional war on the Saudi's behalf.


Trump: US 'locked and loaded' against attackers of Saudi oil facility 'depending on verification'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-saudi-arabia-attack-locked-loaded-iran

You should be happy since you're a self proclaimed hawk

[RandomGuy]

You should be happy since you're a self proclaimed hawk

https://i0.wp.com/think-liberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/MFaau1O.png?resize=768%2C530&ssl=1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect


he Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence.[1]

Where on the pyramid would you place your response here?

[RandomGuy]

You should be happy since you're a self proclaimed hawk

I would not go to war with Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf.

Trump in his incompetence, ignorance, and outright corruption may do just that. My guess though is that his advisors are telling him what that would do to oil prices, which would hurt his re-election chances due to the pending recession.

A re-election he must win to stay out of jail, as the statute of limitations for the obstruction of justice acts outlined in the Mueller report will not have run out when he leaves office in January 2021.

What will be hit is much more likely to be Houthi targets, rather than Iran, regardless of what Trump has said. His only real concern is re-election.

[boutons_deux]

Before he was elected, President Donald Trump (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/donald-trump) went on Twitter tirades (https://theweek.com/articles/700297/21-tweets-that-may-come-back-haunt-trump-big-trip-abroad) against Saudi Arabia.

In 2014, he was enraged that the oil-rich monarchy could not protect itself—and that America was defending the kingdom.

“Have you been watching how Saudi Arabia has been taunting our VERY dumb political leaders to protect them from isis. Why aren’t they paying?” he tweeted.

A few minutes later, he added,

“Saudi Arabia should fight their own wars, which they won’t,

or pay us an absolute fortune to protect them and their great wealth—$ trillion!”

In 2015, three months before announcing his candidacy, Trump tweeted,

“If Saudi Arabia, which has been making one billion dollars a day from oil,

wants our help and protection,

they must pay dearly! NO FREEBIES.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/in-saudi-arabia-world-oil-supplies-are-in-flames?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewsl etter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_091619&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

Like the "coalition of the billing" after the Gulf War, maybe Trash intends to charge the Saudis?

Will The Best Ever Artful Deal Maker "make that deal" before shooting?

[RandomGuy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6stxODJAE

Iranian cruise missiles are a lot different than "Houthi drones".

Looks like we are faced with a massive escalation.

[boutons_deux]

Threatening New War for Oil, Donald Trump Calls His Own Offer of Iran Talks “Fake News”

https://theintercept.com/2019/09/15/threatening-war-oil-donald-trump-rails-media-not-forgetting-offered-iran-talks/

[phxspurfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6stxODJAE

Iranian cruise missiles are a lot different than "Houthi drones".

Looks like we are faced with a massive escalation.

Middle East countries fighting with each other per par

[boutons_deux]

Middle East countries fighting with each other per par

Religion fucking up the world. Here it's Muslim vs Muslim.

[boutons_deux]

Trump says (LIES) U.S. does not need Middle East oil, but cargoes keep coming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Amid a flurry of Twitter posts on Monday morning, U.S. President Donald Trump turned to the weekend attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil facilities and assured his audience the United States had become such a big producer it no longer needed oil from the Middle East.

U.S. government data tells a different story: The technology-driven U.S. drilling boom that started more than a decade ago has made the United States a massive producer,

but imports of crude oil and petroleum products from the Gulf region last year still flowed in abundantly.
“By and large, we are still importing quite a bit and not totally immune to the world market,”

Much of the U.S. shortfall comes from Canada, but

some still comes from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and other Gulf nations

because several U.S. refineries prefer their oil.

As an example, the biggest U.S. refinery – Motiva Enterprises LLC in Port Arthur, Texas – is half-owned by Saudi Arabia’s state energy company, Saudi Aramco, and is set up for Saudi grades.

Other refineries – particularly in California - are isolated from big U.S. oil fields and must also rely on cargoes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-trump/trump-says-u-s-does-not-need-middle-east-oil-but-cargoes-keep-coming-idUSKBN1W12RO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-trump/trump-says-u-s-does-not-need-middle-east-oil-but-cargoes-keep-coming-idUSKBN1W12RO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

[boutons_deux]

RPT-Saudi attacks threaten U.S. gasoline price hikes, particularly in California

- U.S. motorists most likely to feel the hit from rising gas prices following the attacks on Saudi Arabia’s oil facilities are on the West Coast, which

accounts for nearly half of all of U.S. crude imports from the kingdom.

California motorists, some 8,000 miles (13,000 km) away from Saudi Arabia, could be hit the hardest. Refineries in that state rely heavily on imports for supplies due to its isolated location and lack of pipelines to connect it with oil-rich states such as Texas.

Saudi Arabia exports more than 7 million barrels of crude oil every day, much of that to Asia, but about 47% of what it sends to the United States goes to the West Coast.

https://www.reuters.com/article/saudi-aramco-attacks-gasoline/rpt-saudi-attacks-threaten-us-gasoline-price-hikes-particularly-in-california-idUSL2N26700Y

[Yonivore]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8944248/Iran-shows-off-captured-US-drone.html

But, President Obama asked them to return it...

[Pavlov]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8944248/Iran-shows-off-captured-US-drone.html

But, President Obama asked them to return it...:lmao Black President haunts your dreams

[SnakeBoy]

I would not go to war with Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf.

Trump in his incompetence, ignorance, and outright corruption may do just that. My guess though is that his advisors are telling him what that would do to oil prices, which would hurt his re-election chances due to the pending recession.

A re-election he must win to stay out of jail, as the statute of limitations for the obstruction of justice acts outlined in the Mueller report will not have run out when he leaves office in January 2021.

What will be hit is much more likely to be Houthi targets, rather than Iran, regardless of what Trump has said. His only real concern is re-election.

Idk about that. It's looking pretty definitive that this was an act of war on Saudi by Iran. I don't know how Saudi doesn't respond directly against Iran if that's the case.

We don't have to go to war on behalf of Saudi. They have a very capable military. Far superior to Iran in all categories except poor people with guns.

If Iran then attacked us directly Trump would have to respond. If he then pulled a Dubya and tried a regime change democracy in the middle east war then he's finished. On the other hand, if he pulls an H. Dubya and just destroys their military capabilities, well Muricans love a good quick ass kickin. USA! USA! USA!

[ElNono]

:lol damn Yoni been waiting 8 years for that one

[CosmicCowboy]

Glad Bolton is gone.

[Pavlov]

We don't have to go to war on behalf of Saudi. They have a very capable military.As evidenced by what?

[CosmicCowboy]

As evidenced by what?

You sound like a very prejudiced white boy. They have the third largest military budget in the world. They may not be white but they can probably fuck shit up if they want to.

[SnakeBoy]

As evidenced by what?

Are you asking me to list all of their military assets?

[Pavlov]

You sound like a very prejudiced white boy. They have the third largest military budget in the world. They may not be white but they can probably fuck shit up if they want to.
Are you asking me to list all of their military assets?I want you military experts to tell me all of Saudi Arabia's many military achievements other than buying a lot of US equipment.

You think they would've wrapped up Yemen already since you say they're so completely badass.

[CosmicCowboy]

I want you military experts to tell me all of Saudi Arabia's many military achievements other than buying a lot of US equipment.

You think they would've wrapped up Yemen already since you say they're so completely badass.

Does Vietnam ring a bell? Insurgencies aren't always about firepower.

[Pavlov]

Does Vietnam ring a bell? Insurgencies aren't always about firepower.Saudi Arabia's great military achievement was Vietnam?

So far the list is empty.

[TheGreatYacht]

Idk about that. It's looking pretty definitive that this was an act of war on Saudi by Iran. I don't know how Saudi doesn't respond directly against Iran if that's the case.

We don't have to go to war on behalf of Saudi. They have a very capable military. Far superior to Iran in all categories except poor people with guns.

If Iran then attacked us directly Trump would have to respond. If he then pulled a Dubya and tried a regime change democracy in the middle east war then he's finished. On the other hand, if he pulls an H. Dubya and just destroys their military capabilities, well Muricans love a good quick ass kickin. USA! USA! USA!

I don't think it was Iran...only a fool would believe that at this point. But assuming you are correct and it was Iran, I agree. Let the Saudis fight their own wars. Also let the Israelis fight their own wars. Let them all tear each other up. America should stay away. Of course if that were to happen the Zionists would try their hardest to do another 9/11. The only time we should ever go to war is if another country launches missiles and bombs on American soil. Period.

[SnakeBoy]

I don't think it was Iran...only a fool would believe that at this point. But assuming you are correct and it was Iran, I agree. Let the Saudis fight their own wars. Also let the Israelis fight their own wars. Let them all tear each other up. America should stay away. Of course if that were to happen the Zionists would try their hardest to do another 9/11. The only time we should ever go to war is if another country launches missiles and bombs on American soil. Period.

Well I don't agree with the only American soil part but yeah we should not respond on Saudi's behalf when they have a large advanced military.

I'm thinking something is up just because Saudi has been so quiet. Maybe a strike on an Iranian refinery. Would take some time to plan and coordinate contingency plans with us in case Iran responded by attacking US bases in Qatar or UAE.

[SnakeBoy]

I want you military experts to tell me all of Saudi Arabia's many military achievements other than buying a lot of US equipment.

You think they would've wrapped up Yemen already since you say they're so completely badass.

Uh that's apples and oranges. We don't do to well jumping into civil wars either but in a straight military vs military fight we can fuck some shit up quick.

Iran has an antiquated air force, antiquated tanks, and a bunch of dudes with guns. Saudi will fuck them up as long as they don't try to occupy Iran.

[Pavlov]

Uh that's apples and oranges. We don't do to well jumping into civil wars either but in a straight military vs military fight we can fuck some shit up quick.

Iran has an antiquated air force, antiquated tanks, and a bunch of dudes with guns. Saudi will fuck them up as long as they don't try to occupy Iran.The list is still empty.

[SnakeBoy]

The list is still empty.

https://i.imgur.com/Y46ikNb.gif

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/Y46ikNb.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/images/b627f45c768829200132c386a4091254/tenor.gif?itemid=11361547

[hater]

Can someone list me some of USA many military achievements in the last 70 years?

The truth of the matter is USA has been mainly concentrating on offensive weapon systems because they never expected to be attacked. They also fell asleep and did not expect countries to catch up or even eclipse them so quickly on technology.

Everything was banked on invasion and domination. Now the chickens have come home to roost and we realize most of our expensive weaponry is obsolete. Our ships and carriers are floating bathtubs that can be taken out by a swarm of missiles. We have no defense vs drones. Our sailors and marines are sitting ducks not to mention our allies have paid for expensive American garbage disguised as weaponry.

We still don't even know what exactly took out the Saudi oil refineries :lmao we have no fucking clue and are saving face by blaming on Iran cruise missiles to avoid the fact that sandal wearing cucks took a shit on our most sophisticated weaponry.

We ain't going to do shit. We are going to take the punches like a bitch and hopefully take our sailors out if harms way ASAP

[Pavlov]

https://i.imgur.com/Y46ikNb.gifHow can your list be empty?

[DarrinS]

Iran = Totally trustworthy partner

Not

[Pavlov]

Iran = Totally trustworthy partner

NotWhy did we break our part of the agreement first?

[TheGreatYacht]

Why did we break our part of the agreement first?

Bingo. That's a good way to tear him apart Chumper.

[DarrinS]

Why did we break our part of the agreement first?

Why did we make an agreement with that sketchy regime in the first place?

[DarrinS]

Bingo. That's a good way to tear him apart Chumper.

:lmao

Support from most notable board antisemite.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why did we make an agreement with that sketchy regime in the first place?

Umm...peace.

Sketchy? Why aren't we sanctioning the hell out of Saudi Arabia who chops people's heads off and throw gays off rooftops? If the Saudis do it doesn't matter. If Iran does it "let's sanction them!" The double standard and blatant hypocrisy :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

Support from most notable board antisemite.

Antisemite pussy ass move to deflect :lmao

[Pavlov]

Why did we make an agreement with that sketchy regime in the first place?Why not?

That's what's going to have to be done at any point in the future.

It's a fair question why Iran would want to deal with a country as sketchy as the US when it comes to their modern history.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why not?

That's what's going to have to be done at any point in the future.

It's a fair question why Iran would want to deal with a country as sketchy as the US when it comes to their modern history.

Yup. Taking away nuclear arsenal from Gaddafi only to have him brutally murdered by Killlary and Obama.

Chump in control so far

[DarrinS]

Umm...peace.

Sketchy? Why aren't we sanctioning the hell out of Saudi Arabia who chops people's heads off and throw gays off rooftops? If the Saudis do it doesn't matter. If Iran does it "let's sanction them!" The double standard and blatant hypocrisy :lol

Iran loves the gays. :lmao

[DarrinS]

Antisemite pussy ass move to deflect :lmao

You've literally devoted your entire posting in this forum to so-called "Zionists".

Sad

[TheGreatYacht]

Iran loves the gays. :lmao
IRAN PUBLICLY HANGS MAN ON HOMOSEXUALITY CHARGES
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-publicly-hangs-man-on-homosexuality-charges-578758/amp

And I'm using a Zionist source :lmao
You ought to believe them DarrinS

[TheGreatYacht]

You've literally devoted your entire posting in this forum to so-called "Zionists".

Sad

Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism

[DarrinS]

Why not?

That's what's going to have to be done at any point in the future.

It's a fair question why Iran would want to deal with a country as sketchy as the US when it comes to their modern history.


Might as well just send them an aircraft full of cash, because, reasons.

[Pavlov]

Might as well just send them an aircraft full of cash, because, reasons.It was their cash.

Do you not understand what happened, champ? I can give you some non-Hannity links.

[DarrinS]

Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism

I just laugh at you, tbh. :lol

Keep posting lame videos :lol

[DarrinS]

It was their cash

Okey dokey

[Pavlov]

Okey dokeyWhat part of that do you not understand?

[DarrinS]

What part of that do you not understand?

I'm sure Iran would use 1.7B responsibly. -no one ever

[Pavlov]

I'm sure Iran would use 1.7B responsibly. -no one everWhat would your incentive for cooperation be, Darrin?

Let's see it.

[DarrinS]

But, but, it was their money and they're so pro-American.

Fuck those mofos

[Pavlov]

But, but, it was their money and they're so pro-American.

Fuck those mofosDarrin folds

[DarrinS]

What would your incentive for cooperation be, Darrin?

Let's see it.

There's no incentive for those crazy fucks

[Pavlov]

There's no incentive for those crazy fucksAnd yet, that worked until your Grand Wizard decided to go back on the agreement.

Why do you think that incentive worked?

[DarrinS]

Man, you would think that this awesome Iran deal, in addition to the awesome Iraq and Libya decisions would be brought up in Democratic debates. Not so much.

[Pavlov]

Man, you would think that this awesome Iran deal, in addition to the awesome Iraq and Libya decisions would be brought up in Democratic debates. Not so much.Darrin pivots hard

[DarrinS]

And yet, that worked until your Grand Wizard decided to go back on the agreement.

Why do you think that incentive worked?


Hillary eulagized a grand wizard.

[Pavlov]

Hillary eulagized a grand wizard.And you now worship one.

Still waiting for your Iran strategy.

[DarrinS]

Darrin pivots hard

Chump can't defend shifty Iran deal.

[Pavlov]

Chump can't defend shifty Iran deal.You haven't even really criticized it, Darrin.

Just some idle bitching.

Was Iran following the terms of the deal?

Yes or no.

My defense of the deal is that Trump had to break the deal for no reason whatsoever.

[DarrinS]

You haven't even really criticized it, Darrin.

Just some idle bitching.

Was Iran following the terms of the deal?

Yes or no.

My defense of the deal is that Trump had to break the deal for no reason whatsoever.


Are you even serious? :lol

[Pavlov]

Are you even serious? :lolQuite.

Feel free to explain it all Darrin.

Educate me.

[Pavlov]

And I'd appreciate your posting it in your own words.

I'm not watching a Prager U. video for you.

[DarrinS]

Quite.

Feel free to explain it all Darrin.

Educate me.

As a person born in 1969, I can't quite remember Iran being trustworthy.

[DarrinS]

No Prager U video is necessary.

[Pavlov]

As a person born in 1969, I can't quite remember Iran being trustworthy.True, Iran overthrew the democratically elected government of the United States only a scant 16 years before that.

[DarrinS]

I'm on America's side. Pavlov is on?

[Pavlov]

I'm on America's side. Pavlov is on?ad hominem

If you can't actually discuss this, just say so.

[DarrinS]

Pav did a lot to affect the Iran hostage crisis, during which, he wasn't alive.

[Pavlov]

Pav did a lot to affect the Iran hostage crisis, during which, he wasn't alive.What did you do to affect the Iran hostage crisis, during which you were alive?

[DarrinS]

What did you do to affect the Iran hostage crisis, during which you were alive?

Not much, tbh. I hung yellow ribbons with my grandmother.

[Pavlov]

Not much, tbh. I hung yellow ribbons with my grandmother.I believe "fuck all" is the phrase you're looking for.

[DarrinS]

But I remember. Fuck iran, tbh

[DarrinS]

I believe "fuck all" is the phrase you're looking for.

Pretty much. Why do they deserve your resect?

[Pavlov]

But I remember. Fuck iran, tbhAnd why did they take those hostages, Darrin?

[Pavlov]

Pretty much. Why do they deserve your resect?straw man

If you can't actually discuss this, just give the word.

[DarrinS]

And why did they take those hostages, Darrin?

Iranian Islamic revolution. Do you think I this is a good argument? :lol

[Pavlov]

Iranian Islamic revolution. Do you think I this is a good argument? :lolAnd why was there a revolution, Darrin?

[SnakeBoy]

And why was there a revolution, Darrin?

John Lennon?

[Pavlov]

John Lennon?No, try again.

[DarrinS]

And why was there a revolution, Darrin?

America bad + Islam good?

[Pavlov]

America bad + Islam good?
Nope. Try again.

Why was there a revolution?

[Winehole23]

America bad + Islam good?It's just possible history isn't dichromatic.

[Pavlov]

It's just possible history isn't dichromatic.

They're either completely ignorant or shitting their pants at the thought of being honest.

[DarrinS]

It's just possible history isn't dichromatic.


When thesaurus use goes wrong.

[Winehole23]

When thesaurus use goes wrong.Nah, check the first definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dichromatic

[Winehole23]

When pedantry goes wrong :lol

[DarrinS]

When pedantry goes wrong :lol

You must be the death of any party. :lol

[Winehole23]

Darrin's ratio of instant self-owns remains at the remarkably high level it was 10 years ago when I joined this board. Only Spurtacular and Wild Cobra come anywhere close, IMO.

[Winehole23]

You must be the death of any party. :lolYou beefed.

[DarrinS]

Darrin's ratio of instant self-owns remains at the remarkably high level it was 10 years ago when I joined this board. Only Spurtacular and Wild Cobra come anywhere close, IMO.

How will I go on?

[Winehole23]

How will I go on?Self-owning your way through threads, as you so reliably do.

[DarrinS]

Self-owning your way through threads, as you so reliably do.

We should expect the Iranians to act in good faith, per history.

[DarrinS]

But the pedantry.

:dramaquee

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

No, try again.

That's all I got.

Why was there a revolution, Pavlov?

[Pavlov]

That's all I got.Figures.

[hater]

Why did we make an agreement with that sketchy regime in the first place?

The same thing must be asked daily by Iranians on their forums tbqh.

USA is way more sketchy than Iran.

Ignorant Americans thinking complete surrender by countries like Iran or NK Isa possibility :lmao

Wake the fuck up and smell the kebob. Iran nor NK will surrender to US demands. They will fight to the death.

The sooner arrogant Americans realize this the better. Starting with the big ol orange with hair sitting in the Monika Lewinsky oral observatory

[Winehole23]

We should expect the Iranians to act in good faith, per history.Ditto the USA

[hater]

Ditto the USA

:lmao ameridumbs thinking their country acts in good faith

[boutons_deux]

Anybody forgetting the history of USA/CIA overthrowing, always spreading freedom and democracy for BigOil, democratically elected Mossadegh in 1953 so the pro-West Shah could be an oppressive, murderous dictator until Khomeini's revolution?

There's no reason for Iran to trust the USA, esp under a unstable, bullshitting, sick freak like Trash.

[pgardn]

The same thing must be asked daily by Iranians on their forums tbqh.

USA is way more sketchy than Iran.

Ignorant Americans thinking complete surrender by countries like Iran or NK Isa possibility :lmao

Wake the fuck up and smell the kebob. Iran nor NK will surrender to US demands. They will fight to the death.

The sooner arrogant Americans realize this the better. Starting with the big ol orange with hair sitting in the Monika Lewinsky oral observatory

Yeah.

And the Russian and Chinese forums.
They all talk about it freely.
Hater, do you think you are being followed by the FBI?

[baseline bum]

America bad + Islam good?

Islam bad implies America good?

[TheGreatYacht]

DarrinS showing everybody the blind patriot and good Zionist that he is :lmao

[RandomGuy]

:lmao ameridumbs thinking their country acts in good faith

Is now a good time to note that the Saudi Government rents an entire floor in the Trump World Center in New York?

[RandomGuy]

Chump can't defend shifty Iran deal.

I can. It was about as good as anyone could get got. The only reason it was scrapped was because it was Obama's, and you know it.

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484

Vastly more than you can defend the Republican alternative.

What is the proposed Republican alternative deal? Be specific and as detailed as you can.

[SnakeBoy]

I can. It was about as good as anyone could get got. The only reason it was scrapped was because it was Obama's, and you know it.

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484

Vastly more than you can defend the Republican alternative.

What is the proposed Republican alternative deal? Be specific and as detailed as you can.

Admittedly, no one can tell with certainty which way Iran will go. It is true that Iran has a large number of people who want their government to decrease its isolation from the world and focus on economic advancement at home. But it is also true that this desire has been evident in Iran for thirty-five years, yet the Iranian leaders have held a tight and undiminished grip on Iran, successfully maintaining their brutal, theocratic dictatorship with little threat. Who’s to say this dictatorship will not prevail for another ten, twenty, or thirty years?

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great.

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be.

[RandomGuy]

Idk about that. It's looking pretty definitive that this was an act of war on Saudi by Iran. I don't know how Saudi doesn't respond directly against Iran if that's the case.

We don't have to go to war on behalf of Saudi. They have a very capable military. Far superior to Iran in all categories except poor people with guns.

If Iran then attacked us directly Trump would have to respond. If he then pulled a Dubya and tried a regime change democracy in the middle east war then he's finished. On the other hand, if he pulls an H. Dubya and just destroys their military capabilities, well Muricans love a good quick ass kickin. USA! USA! USA!

Saudi Military: 227,000
Iranian: 523,000 with 1,300,000 in reserves.

Saudi military capability has been stretched in Yemen, against a relatively small insurgency, and depends VERY heavily on US logistics. It is technologically superior, but that capability is "thin". The Saudis lack the industrial base or logistical base to support that army in the field for any length of time.

It cannot effectively fight a two front war without even more significant help. A full on war would see Saudi oil production effectively halted, as well as risks of an outright sectarian war that goes beyond national boundaries.

Further, Iran is four times larger than Iraq, and has been preparing to meet the US for four decades. It took months of sustained bombing to knock Iraqi capabilities down.

If you think it will be some kind of "easy" fight, you are probably a Trump voter.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/caitoz/status/1173971556768210944

[TheGreatYacht]

Admittedly, no one can tell with certainty which way Iran will go. It is true that Iran has a large number of people who want their government to decrease its isolation from the world and focus on economic advancement at home. But it is also true that this desire has been evident in Iran for thirty-five years, yet the Iranian leaders have held a tight and undiminished grip on Iran, successfully maintaining their brutal, theocratic dictatorship with little threat. Who’s to say this dictatorship will not prevail for another ten, twenty, or thirty years?

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great.

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be.


https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeCamp/status/1172551261066911750

SnakeBoy showing his neocon and sociopathic nature. SnakeBoy being a sperm shielder apologizing for daddy Trump in scrapping the Iran nuclear deal :lmao

[RandomGuy]

Admittedly, no one can tell with certainty which way Iran will go. It is true that Iran has a large number of people who want their government to decrease its isolation from the world and focus on economic advancement at home. But it is also true that this desire has been evident in Iran for thirty-five years, yet the Iranian leaders have held a tight and undiminished grip on Iran, successfully maintaining their brutal, theocratic dictatorship with little threat. Who’s to say this dictatorship will not prevail for another ten, twenty, or thirty years?

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great.

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be.

Then you will have to deal with a nuclear state capable of disrupting your energy supplies, where you have no negative leverage to inflict pain because you have already put in place the most effective sanctions you can.

The agreement halted their progress. No deal means they are free to pursue nuclear weapons as fast as they are able to.

All the while, you will have China undermining those sanctions and eroding their effectiveness, as they have been already doing.

The agreement was the least bad option.

[TheGreatYacht]

Then you will have to deal with a nuclear state capable of disrupting your energy supplies, where you have no negative leverage to inflict pain because you have already put in place the most effective sanctions you can.

The agreement halted their progress. No deal means they are free to pursue nuclear weapons as fast as they are able to.

All the while, you will have China undermining those sanctions and eroding their effectiveness, as they have been already doing.

The agreement was the least bad option.

And soon we will have another N Korea

[SnakeBoy]

Triggering conference live
http://www.reuters.tv/l/P12q/2019/09/17/saudi-energy-minister-news-conference-in-jeddah

[TheGreatYacht]

Triggering conference live
http://www.reuters.tv/l/P12q/2019/09/17/saudi-energy-minister-news-conference-in-jeddah

Can't understand their language. Are they trying to convince the world that it was Iran? Are they planning out what orders to give Trump?

[SnakeBoy]

Can't understand their language. Are they trying to convince the world that it was Iran? Are they planning out what orders to give Trump?

Probably both of those and more. Keep going the sky is the limit.

[hater]

Looking more like a hoax ma niglets

http://www.jimstone.is/pages/nowayiran.jpg

[hater]

Take a look at this picture. All the tanks were hit the same way in exactly the same spot, with precison that is not attainable by those accused, as well as precise limited damage not attainable by those accused.

Look in the lower right hand corner of the photo. There is a car or pickup truck there. That shows how large the tanks are. Iran's smallest cruise missile has approximately a 290 pound warhead. If an Iranian cruise missile hit those tanks (as some have claimed) the hole would be approximately as far across as 5 of those cars if the tank was robustly built, and more if it was not. AND IF there was no additional explosive effects provided by the fuel in the tank. The entire story line for the refinery attack is an obvious hoax. There's no way a 290 pound warhead hit that tank.

This attack was prepared for, because NONE of the tanks exploded, UPDATE: These were likely natural gas tanks that were fully purged of oxygen and would not explode, but that still can't explain the holes that look like they were poked by needles. What are the chances of that happening at random? I'd say zilch, and am probably right. AND HOW THE HELL ARE THE FIRES OUT SO SOON AFTER THE "ATTACK" THAT A PHOTO LIKE THIS COULD BE TAKEN RIGHT AWAY? These fires were out in ONE DAY. That needs some explaining, - explaining that can't be done outside of this attack being hoaxed for max impression and minimal damage.

BOTTOM LINE: If it is all out so quickly and the damage is that uniform and the damage is that minimal, first of all Iranian cruise missiles did not do this because the damage is not enough (all of them carry 130 KG (286 pound) warheads and up) which would obliterate a large section of those tanks and not just leave a little hole (Oh, I know what did this, the Iranian navy put limpet mines on those tanks, YEP, that would end up looking like the photo) and magically and mysteriously got all of them right where they would not ignite any vapors and blow the whole thing. Forget about how they sailed into that refinery to do it, IRAN DID IT, IRAN DID IT, IRAN DID IT!!!!
The Yemenis did not do this either, they were simply not capable of that kind of precision. Even the U.S. would likely not have an attack pattern be so uniform and perfect, this looks like a hand placement job and someone was brainless about making it look credible. FINAL ANSWER.


Jimstone. Is

[hater]

And this:

Saudi just said their oil output is back to normal :lmao :lmao

They also said their air defenses did not detect the "missiles" because they are ll pointing south toward Yemen :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/Leo_Iratus/status/1173993992364707841?s=20

:lmao us for believing this pathetic excuse of a false flag :lol

No wonder putin, erdogan and rouhani were laughing it up and trolling :lmao

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Cruise missiles etc were always fake news by default given all the anti-air tech in that region

[hater]

Cruise missiles etc were always fake news by default given all the anti-air tech in that region

Yup and so is flying drones hundreds of miles from Yemen or Iraq.

The only explanation would be if drones were flown from within the area, but the mathematical like precision rules that out.

These modafuckas must be smoking some good shit if they thought this would work :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

My boy hater doing what he does best debunking all the BS lies by our government.

The Saudis and Israelis are trying their asses off to get us in a war w Iran but people aren't buying their BS anymore.

[hater]

My boy hater doing what he does best debunking all the BS lies by our government.

The Saudis and Israelis are trying their asses off to get us in a war w Iran but people aren't buying their BS anymore.

This hoax could easily be the intro to naked gun 10 and a 1/2 or some shit :lol

It's too stupidly done to even be intro to Rambo or MI :lol

[hater]

:lmao ameridumbs thinking their country acts in good faith

Called it

[SnakeBoy]

The US has reportedly identified locations in Iran from which drones and cruise missiles were launched against major Saudi oil facilities on Saturday.

Senior US officials told media outlets that the locations were in southern Iran, at the northern end of the Gulf.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49733558

[hater]

The US has reportedly identified locations in Iran from which drones and cruise missiles were launched against major Saudi oil facilities on Saturday.

Senior US officials told media outlets that the locations were in southern Iran, at the northern end of the Gulf.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49733558

:lmao

I heard they will also release re enacted flight paths of the missiles

Not real flight path data but basically Ms Paint paths :lol

[RandomGuy]

And soon we will have another N Korea

With oil and Russia and China actively supporting it, and the EU unwilling to do much to support the US sanctions.

Trump's dislike of Obama has harmed US interests, and made the world less safe.

[RandomGuy]

Take a look at this picture. All the tanks were hit the same way in exactly the same spot, with precison that is not attainable by those accused, as well as precise limited damage not attainable by those accused.

Look in the lower right hand corner of the photo. There is a car or pickup truck there. That shows how large the tanks are. Iran's smallest cruise missile has approximately a 290 pound warhead. If an Iranian cruise missile hit those tanks (as some have claimed) the hole would be approximately as far across as 5 of those cars if the tank was robustly built, and more if it was not. AND IF there was no additional explosive effects provided by the fuel in the tank. The entire story line for the refinery attack is an obvious hoax. There's no way a 290 pound warhead hit that tank.

This attack was prepared for, because NONE of the tanks exploded, UPDATE: These were likely natural gas tanks that were fully purged of oxygen and would not explode, but that still can't explain the holes that look like they were poked by needles. What are the chances of that happening at random? I'd say zilch, and am probably right. AND HOW THE HELL ARE THE FIRES OUT SO SOON AFTER THE "ATTACK" THAT A PHOTO LIKE THIS COULD BE TAKEN RIGHT AWAY? These fires were out in ONE DAY. That needs some explaining, - explaining that can't be done outside of this attack being hoaxed for max impression and minimal damage.

BOTTOM LINE: If it is all out so quickly and the damage is that uniform and the damage is that minimal, first of all Iranian cruise missiles did not do this because the damage is not enough (all of them carry 130 KG (286 pound) warheads and up) which would obliterate a large section of those tanks and not just leave a little hole (Oh, I know what did this, the Iranian navy put limpet mines on those tanks, YEP, that would end up looking like the photo) and magically and mysteriously got all of them right where they would not ignite any vapors and blow the whole thing. Forget about how they sailed into that refinery to do it, IRAN DID IT, IRAN DID IT, IRAN DID IT!!!!
The Yemenis did not do this either, they were simply not capable of that kind of precision. Even the U.S. would likely not have an attack pattern be so uniform and perfect, this looks like a hand placement job and someone was brainless about making it look credible. FINAL ANSWER.


Jimstone. Is

Sounds like Cosmoreds jacket flaps, tbh.

[hater]

Possibly

But the Iranian cruise story sounds like ramblings from Collin Powell :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The US has reportedly identified locations in Iran from which drones and cruise missiles were launched against major Saudi oil facilities on Saturday.

Senior US officials told media outlets that the locations were in southern Iran, at the northern end of the Gulf.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49733558

Fake news

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

I heard they will also release re enacted flight paths of the missiles

Not real flight path data but basically Ms Paint paths :lol

It was pretty obvious that the Houthis lack the operational sophistication to carry this off.

The Iranians have been emphasizing this technology for decade or so.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Shahed_129_%284%29.jpg/800px-Shahed_129_%284%29.jpg


The Shahed 129 (Persian: شاهد ۱۲۹‎, English: "Eyewitness"; sometimes S129) is an Iranian single-engine medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed by Shahed Aviation Industries for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The Shahed 129 is capable of combat and reconnaissance missions and has an endurance of 24 hours; it is similar in size, shape and role to the American MQ-1 Predator[5] and is widely considered the most capable drone in Iranian service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahed_129


From 2014:
Like It or Not, Iran Is a Drone Power
Sanctions have not stopped Tehran’s robot development [Snakeboy, you may want to read this sentence out loud to yourself a few times.]

America isn’t the only country that deploys drones to spy on its enemies. In the skies over Syria’s bloody civil war, above Iraq’s jihadist insurgency and across a number of regional conflicts, Iran’s drones are becoming an increasingly common sight.

Ever since the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, Iran has been an early adopter of unmanned technology. But as drones have become more important in warfare, Iran’s development of the pilotless aircraft has intensified.

Iranian officials’ penchant for showing off fake new weapons can make it hard to separate the fact from fiction about what Tehran’s drones can do. So much of what we know—or what we think we know—about Iranian unmanned aerial vehicles comes from propaganda outlets, which are only too keen to play down the impact of sanctions and play up Iran’s martial and engineering skill, often with ludicrous assertions.

The truth, as ever, lies somewhere in between two extremes. Sanctions haven’t stopped the the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps from putting more unmanned planes in the air. But the Guards still face challenges in arming them with air-to-ground missiles and building a communications infrastructure with greater bandwidth and range in order to control the robots over more distant battlefields.

The story of Iran’s drone development isn’t the underdog tale of scrappy Iranian engineers scrambling to catch up with the United States, as the Guards so often claim. Instead, it’s the story of Iran’s military prudently developing UAVs that are just good enough—and progressively improving successful designs.

A number of export control laws, multilateral agreements and international sanctions complicate Iran’s ability to purchase drone parts on the open market. Moreover, the United States, the United Nations and other countries and world bodies have levied specific sanctions against Iranian entities — and those of Tehran’s allies — for their role in Iran’s UAV production.

Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial Company, Qods Aviation and Hezbollah’s Stars Holding Group are all subject to sanctions.
https://warisboring.com/like-it-or-not-iran-is-a-drone-power/


Their bandwidth limitation noted in the 2014 article was probably eased by acquisition of Chinese technology. Think Huawei's 5G push, and how they were skirting US sanctions. Hello dual use technology.

[TheGreatYacht]

As The US Claim About The Saudi Attack Changes Again, Even The WSJ & NYT Point Out Contradictions

https://youtu.be/lBMHLs9TA20

[hater]

Oh shit that cartoon :wow

[hater]

https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1173990781507579905?s=19

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1173990781507579905?s=19

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/05/RTX3717G/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1533691885

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1173434704302751744?s=19

[hater]

:lmao Tulsi treating Orange bastard like a used bloody tampon :lmao

[RandomGuy]

:lmao Tulsi treating Orange bastard like a used bloody tampon :lmao

1170914148919590914

Not as bad as Christine Tiegen.

[hater]

:lmao uncle sam

:lmao tasking the Saudis to build a compelling argument for war with Iran is like me tasking my dog to build me a new fence :lmao :lmao

Statement from the Iranians "Saudi press confrence shows they are clueless about how attack was executed and know nothing about the military capabilities of their adversary".

How stupid can you be to task the Saudi to do anything coherent??? :lmao Mike pompoopoo


:lmao orange with hair

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1173434704302751744?s=19

Fuck :rollin

[boutons_deux]

Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack

“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” said Japanese defense minister Taro Kono.

Japanese Defense Minister Taro Kono told reporters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-japan/japan-defense-minister-not-aware-of-any-iran-involvement-in-saudi-attacks-idUSKBN1W30KV) Wednesday that

he has not seen any intelligence indicating Iran was behind the attacks on Saudi Arabian oil facilities over the weekend,

contradicting Saudi and Trump administration claims about the incident (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/16/saudi-arabia-first-trump-accused-letting-saudis-dictate-us-foreign-policy-after-oil).

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/disputing-trump-claims-japan-says-no-evidence-iran-was-behind-saudi-attack/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1498 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/disputing-trump-claims-japan-says-no-evidence-iran-was-behind-saudi-attack/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1498)

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1173434704302751744?s=19
:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Fuck :rollin

Seen somewhere else:
Saudis vow to fight the Iranians to the last American

[in2deep]

Antagonizing Japan and having them break off from us constantly now might be the stupidest move Trump has done in foreign policy so far


Japan was basically our towel boy and would jump at any US request. Trump stupidly demanded them trade concessions threatening them with massive car tariffs if not.

They did reach a trade agreement but obviously are pissed off. Even broke off cooperation with South Korea.

Stupid stupid move by a fucking retard president

[RandomGuy]

Possibly

But the Iranian cruise story sounds like ramblings from Collin Powell :lol

Cruise missiles do not grow on trees, and neither do drones. Missile and drone capabilities are measurable, known things, both of which Iran has, and has motive to use in this case.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Awful Middle East Policies Are Coming Back to Haunt Him

Trump’s in a pickle, and he’s the one responsible for it.

By needlessly reneging on the U.S.-Iranian nuclear deal :lol But he vindictively spited Obama for WHCD! :lol

and launching a sanctions campaign that amounts to economic warfare against Tehran,

he has strengthened the Iranian hard-liners and

further destabilized a region that was already in turmoil.

By enabling Saudi Arabia in bombing Yemen and carrying out horrendous war crimes,

he has contributed to a terrible humanitarian crisis:

about 3.3 million of the Yemenis who have fled remain displaced, and

another fourteen million desperately need food, medicine, and other assistance.

So far in his Presidency,

Trump has largely escaped personal responsibility or political consequences for his bad and foolhardy policies.

Now some of the repercussions are hitting home.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-awful-middle-east-policies-are-coming-back-to-haunt-him?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewslett er_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_091819&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-awful-middle-east-policies-are-coming-back-to-haunt-him?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewslett er_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_091819&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily)

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao uncle sam

:lmao tasking the Saudis to build a compelling argument for war with Iran is like me tasking my dog to build me a new fence :lmao :lmao

Statement from the Iranians "Saudi press confrence shows they are clueless about how attack was executed and know nothing about the military capabilities of their adversary".

How stupid can you be to task the Saudi to do anything coherent??? :lmao Mike pompoopoo


:lmao orange with hair

Did you hear of his John Botlon replacement? Another war monger and Zionist neocon.

Drain the swamp my ass checks :lmao

[RandomGuy]

Admittedly, no one can tell with certainty which way Iran will go. It is true that Iran has a large number of people who want their government to decrease its isolation from the world and focus on economic advancement at home. But it is also true that this desire has been evident in Iran for thirty-five years, yet the Iranian leaders have held a tight and undiminished grip on Iran, successfully maintaining their brutal, theocratic dictatorship with little threat. Who’s to say this dictatorship will not prevail for another ten, twenty, or thirty years?

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great.

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power. Better to keep U.S. sanctions in place, strengthen them, enforce secondary sanctions on other nations, and pursue the hard-trodden path of diplomacy once more, difficult as it may be.

This specific attack outlines the limitations of that. Iran has little to lose by these attacks at this point.

This was a message meant to outline their capabilities and impatience with the sanctions, and fits their pattern of escalation.

Trumps response is "moar sanctions", no doubt restrained by the Saudis who are now realizing how truly vulnerable their infrastructure is. We may well see some kinetic response, but I will guess that will happen after they have a chance to bolster their defenses.

[Winehole23]

Islam bad implies America good?It's weird how soi disant political realists deny everybody can be wrong simultaneously. Neither you being wrong, nor me pointing it out, makes me right.

[Winehole23]

Arg dp

[Winehole23]

But the pedantry.

:dramaquee

:lolIs that what they call correct, primary definitions now?

:lol

[hater]

Pompeo and the other bitches like Mike penis and Little Marco and gayhram are kicking and screaming but ain't shit gonna hapoen

Cause Iran has the missiles to turn American sailors into floating ocean debree

Called that shit :tu

https://twitter.com/yenisafakEN/status/1174685533483745280?s=19

[Ghazi]

Khamenei RAHBAR

MARG BAR AMRIKA
MARG BAR ISRAEL!

[SnakeBoy]

Saudi Arabia looks to import oil in order to keep exports flowing
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/saudi-arabia-looks-to-import-oil-in-order-to-keep-exports-flowing-2019-09-19?mod=hp_investing

Let’s review:
Saudi production restored..it’s all good
No financial impact…we’re fine don’t worry about it
100Mbls in reserves…we gotcha covered

Oh by the way…can we borrow some oil? :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Iran’s Supreme Leader Approved Saudi Attacks: Washington
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Irans-Supreme-Leader-Approved-Saudi-Attacks-Washington.html


Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei approved the attacks on Saudi oil infrastructure, a U.S. government official told CBS, adding that the approval had been granted on the condition that Iran’s involvement could be denied.


While ordering the Pentagon to draft several response alternatives, the U.S. commander in chief said "There's plenty of time to do some dastardly things. We'll see what happens."

[TheGreatYacht]

Iran’s Supreme Leader Approved Saudi Attacks: Washington
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Irans-Supreme-Leader-Approved-Saudi-Attacks-Washington.html

US Government narrative = Fake News

[hater]

Iran’s Supreme Leader Approved Saudi Attacks: Washington
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Irans-Supreme-Leader-Approved-Saudi-Attacks-Washington.html

It's all BS unless they provide some solid proof

[TheGreatYacht]

It's all BS unless they provide some solid proof
Blame first, investigate later? White House allegations Iran fit pattern

https://youtu.be/sPBhZRRI3OI

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/morphonios/status/1174436244429955077

[SnakeBoy]

Blame first, investigate later? White House allegations Iran fit pattern

https://youtu.be/sPBhZRRI3OI

:lmao

lol RT we din do nuttin network

[TheGreatYacht]

lol RT we din do nuttin network

The truth stings :lol

[RandomGuy]

Saudi Arabia looks to import oil in order to keep exports flowing
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/saudi-arabia-looks-to-import-oil-in-order-to-keep-exports-flowing-2019-09-19?mod=hp_investing

Let’s review:
Saudi production restored..it’s all good
No financial impact…we’re fine don’t worry about it
100Mbls in reserves…we gotcha covered

Oh by the way…can we borrow some oil? :lol


Saudi bourse executive says Tadawul ready for Aramco IPO

RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi bourse Tadawul is ready for Aramco’s initial public offering and it has done massive changes and upgrades to its system to handle the mega deal, the bourse’s chief of markets, Mohammed al-Rumaih, said at a conference.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-exchange-aramco/saudi-bourse-executive-says-tadawul-ready-for-aramco-ipo-idUSKBN1W40SN

All this set against the backdrop of the largest IPO in history.

Somehow I doubt it will be as large as it would have been.

If the Iranians were really smart about twisting the knife they would have waited until a few minutes after the IPO hit the markets. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

CNN Host Is Daring Trump be more hawkish and Not Be A Pussy

https://youtu.be/Ui44dJ-3ouc

[in2deep]

:lmao cnn

They are the worst organization in news circles

[SnakeBoy]

Saudi Arabia looks to import oil in order to keep exports flowing
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/saudi-arabia-looks-to-import-oil-in-order-to-keep-exports-flowing-2019-09-19?mod=hp_investing

Let’s review:
Saudi production restored..it’s all good
No financial impact…we’re fine don’t worry about it
100Mbls in reserves…we gotcha covered

Oh by the way…can we borrow some oil? :lol

It's all good in the kingdom

1175114646350700545

[boutons_deux]

EXCLUSIVE: Donald Trump made millions from Saudi Arabia, but trashes Hillary Clinton for Saudi donations to Clinton Foundation

Donald Trump has blasted Hillary Clinton for accepting money from Saudi Arabia through her foundation, but a Daily News investigation reveals he has padded his bank account with cash from the same country.

Trump sold the 45th floor of Trump World Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million in June 2001, according to a city Finance Department spokeswoman.

In 2008, the apartments became part of the Saudi Mission to the United Nations, records show.

The five apartments included 10 bedrooms and 13 bathrooms at the time of the sale, and had yearly common charges of $85,585 for building amenities, documents obtained by The News show. If those common charges remain the same,

Trump was paid at least $5.7 million by the Saudi government since 2001.

Ocampo, 67, and her company, Housing International, which specialized in housing for diplomats, sued Trump in 2001, seeking a broker's fee for the deal. :lol Trash stiffed the broker :lol

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211?fbclid=IwAR0thzTWpqlAkT7OXDTkRAYEQmrJYuG Ll3JeggyRHSLHr4xAmpn3uucDJOo (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211?fbclid=IwAR0thzTWpqlAkT7OXDTkRAYEQmrJYuG Ll3JeggyRHSLHr4xAmpn3uucDJOo)

So now Trash is sending troops to protect the Saudis.

[SnakeBoy]

United States sending troops to bolster Saudi defenses after attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-usa-pentagon-idUSKBN1W52K3

The Pentagon said the deployment would involve a moderate number of troops - not numbering thousands - and would be primarily defensive in nature.


US destroyer famous for ‘self-defense strikes’ on Yemen redeploys to Saudi coast as Pentagon prepares more purely defensive assets
https://www.rt.com/news/469335-nitze-destroyer-yemen-saudi-iran/

[SnakeBoy]

Iran says it will destroy any aggressor as tensions build in Gulf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/22/iran-says-it-will-destroy-any-aggressor-as-tensions-build-in-gulf

If this comes to war I hope our military knows to target all Iranian flags. That's where they keep their missiles.

[SnakeBoy]

Yemeni Rebels Warn Iran Plans Another Strike Soon
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yemeni-rebels-warn-iran-plans-another-strike-soon-11569105344




BEIRUT—Houthi militants in Yemen have warned foreign diplomats that Iran is preparing a follow-up strike to the missile and drone attack that crippled Saudi Arabia’s oil industry a week ago, people familiar with the matter said.

Leaders of the group said they were raising the alarm about the possible new attack after they were pressed by Iran to play a role in it, these people said.

[hater]

Yemeni Rebels Warn Iran Plans Another Strike Soon
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yemeni-rebels-warn-iran-plans-another-strike-soon-11569105344

I don't believe that bullshit. Iran are houti allies why would houti out them makes no sense :lol

LOL have to subscribe to shitty wsj to read the actual detaiks

Fake news imo

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't believe that bullshit. Iran are houti allies why would houti out them makes no sense :lol

LOL have to subscribe to shitty wsj to read the actual detaiks

Fake news imo

Agree. Anything that comes out of the United States or Israeli government's mouth is fake news. Only blind patriots and neocons think otherwise.

[pgardn]

I don't believe that bullshit. Iran are houti allies why would houti out them makes no sense :lol

LOL have to subscribe to shitty wsj to read the actual detaiks

Fake news imo

Your opinion...

RT news man has an opinion.
You drop the worst shit on this board. Its the Great Floating Turd worthy.
Which is worthless.

[hater]

I don't believe that bullshit. Iran are houti allies why would houti out them makes no sense :lol

LOL have to subscribe to shitty wsj to read the actual detaiks

Fake news imo

Called it:

The only named source in the piece is the Houthi spokesman who fully denies the above nonsense.

:lmao WSJ fake news :lmao


:lmao begging for subscriptions in this day and age :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Called it:

The only named source in the piece is the Houthi spokesman who fully denies the above nonsense.

:lmao WSJ fake news :lmao


:lmao begging for subscriptions in this day and age :lmao


Agree. Anything that comes out of the United States or Israeli government's mouth is fake news. Only blind patriots and neocons think otherwise.

Forgot to add neoliberal/Democrat/CNN viewers like pgardn

[TheGreatYacht]

Iran Narrative Implodes, Saudis Bomb Yemen In Retaliation, MSM Silent, & US Sanctions Venezuela Food

https://youtu.be/Y6GqpDlBTj8

[TheGreatYacht]

CBS News Pushes 100% Propaganda On I-R-A-N

https://youtu.be/sKfYQU5NNCk

[SnakeBoy]

1176231264174694401

[RandomGuy]

Iran Narrative Implodes, Saudis Bomb Yemen In Retaliation, MSM Silent, & US Sanctions Venezuela Food

https://youtu.be/Y6GqpDlBTj8

It is hardly "imploding" when main European allies all say Iran did it.

Iran had both the motive and opportunity. The strike was well within their capabilities.

[SnakeBoy]

Why The Saudis Are Lying About Their Oil Production
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-The-Saudis-Are-Lying-About-Their-Oil-Production.html

[RandomGuy]

Your opinion...

RT news man has an opinion.
You drop the worst shit on this board. Its the Great Floating Turd worthy.
Which is worthless.

If I had to pick one fucker here who was a paid Russian troll, it would be hater. It would certainly explain his affinity for RT.

[RandomGuy]

Why The Saudis Are Lying About Their Oil Production
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-The-Saudis-Are-Lying-About-Their-Oil-Production.html


The first of these, as OilPrice.com was informed repeatedly by senior oil traders throughout the day, was the lack of real understanding that senior Saudi officials seem to have on how the oil market works or any details of Saudi’s own oil industry.

“I used to think the Saudis thought all of us [oil traders] were idiots, with all the rubbish they used to come out with and thought we’d believe, but recently it’s occurred to me that they genuinely don’t know anything about the oil industry, so they don’t understand that other people actually do know what they’re talking about and this has also been one of the reasons for the constant delaying of the Aramco sale, by the way,” one senior oil trader based in Asia told OilPrice.com.

https://theawesomedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/mind-boggling-questions-feat-1-620x350.jpg

That would not surprise me. Not exactly a meritocracy over there.

[RandomGuy]

Why The Saudis Are Lying About Their Oil Production
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-The-Saudis-Are-Lying-About-Their-Oil-Production.html

Hmm. Seriously eye-opening article.


“Engineers we have spoken to have said that following an incident like this it would take several weeks just to assess the damage, never mind to begin doing anything about it, rather than the few days that the Saudis have taken and then announced the actual timeline – and a very short timeline at that – to bring back various stages of capacity,” said Energy Aspects’ Mallinson.

My gut said "there is no effing way that a complex system damaged by explosions like that could bounce back so quickly". I was more than a bit dubious of their timeline. We will see though. They have a couple of weeks to do something. My bet would be it will take a lot longer.



The supreme irony, of course - as OilPrice.com has repeatedly underlined, and as many in the oil markets now know, although apparently not the Saudis - is that a cornerstone strategy used by Iran to circumvent current U.S. sanctions against it (as was also the case in the previous period of sanctions) is to rebrand its oil into Iraqi oil, which is extremely easily done, both at the massive and porous border between the two or via various pipeline and shipping routes.

It may well be, then, that Saudi Arabia ends up boosting the bank accounts of the very people that it thinks was behind the attacks on its own oil infrastructure, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps – a staunch and active supporter of Yemen’s Houthis - through its various oil-industry associated businesses by buying Iranian oil, albeit with the stickers changed on the barrels.


This much I did know about. This gives even more motive for Iran.

[SnakeBoy]

Hmm. Seriously eye-opening article.


Lot's of great perspectives on oilprice.com for all things energy, not just oil.

[RandomGuy]

Lot's of great perspectives on oilprice.com for all things [fossil fuel] energy, not just oil.

FIFY.

"Great perspectives" from one very distinct filter. It is as bad as the rah rah renewables websites that do the same for green energy, albeit with more financing and content. Yet another information bubble for people who will be ill-prepared for the way the world is changing.

[SnakeBoy]

FIFY.

"Great perspectives" from one very distinct filter. It is as bad as the rah rah renewables websites that do the same for green energy, albeit with more financing and content. Yet another information bubble for people who will be ill-prepared for the way the world is changing.

Sounds like you got triggered by the name and didn't actually look at the site.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fox Host Gets Savaged For Daring To Make Sense

https://youtu.be/f-_i9Zq-CxI

SnakeBoy

[RandomGuy]

Sounds like you got triggered by the name and didn't actually look at the site.

You wish I get triggered by this stuff, as it suits your fucktarded internal narrative. Browsed fair amount of it, but missed the renewable tab. mea culpa.

[Winehole23]

1176231264174694401If they had proof of direct Iranian involvement they would say so. They don't yet.

[Winehole23]

Why The Saudis Are Lying About Their Oil Production
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-The-Saudis-Are-Lying-About-Their-Oil-Production.htmlhere's another bit from Oil Price, hypothesizing that Iran looks like the strategic winner so far:


The Iran-proxy strike on Saudi Arabia (https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Impact-Of-The-Saudi-Oil-Attack-Is-Far-From-Over.html) and the ensuing threats to the US served both as a demonstration of the impotence of Saudi Arabia and its guardians, and as a diversion of attention away from the crucial and successful Iranian surge westward to the Mediterranean.

The Iranian declaratory threats of escalation remained focused on the Persian Gulf and particularly on warning the US against intervention. The Houthi strike reiterated anew the inherent vulnerability of Saudi Arabia, as well as its inability and unwillingness to act unilaterally against Iran. Tehran has long insisted that the US is reluctant to act against Iran, and every passing day reinforces the veracity of the Iranian message.

Hence, Tehran argues, all regional states and entities should take notice of the inherent power of Iran and Iran’s proxies, as well as of the absence of US protection.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Irans-Ultimate-Middle-East-Power-Play.html

[Winehole23]

United States sending troops to bolster Saudi defenses after attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-usa-pentagon-idUSKBN1W52K3


US destroyer famous for ‘self-defense strikes’ on Yemen redeploys to Saudi coast as Pentagon prepares more purely defensive assets
https://www.rt.com/news/469335-nitze-destroyer-yemen-saudi-iran/Hope they don't go ashore.

Do you recall what happened the last time we sent US troops to the KSA?

[Pavlov]

Hope they don't go ashore.

Do you recall what happened the last time we sent US troops to the KSA?

They don't, which is the most frightening thing of all.

[SnakeBoy]

Hope they don't go ashore.

Do you recall what happened the last time we sent US troops to the KSA?

These aren't sailors

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/26/us-deploy-200-troops-patriot-air-defense-battery-response-saudi-attacks.html

A single Patriot air defense battery, backed up by four Sentinel 3D Radars and 200 troops, will deploy to Saudi Arabia in response to attacks that devastated the kingdom's oil production

[SnakeBoy]

They don't, which is the most frightening thing of all.

Who is "they"?

[Pavlov]

Who is "they"?You certainly haven't mentioned anything.

[Winehole23]

These aren't sailors

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/26/us-deploy-200-troops-patriot-air-defense-battery-response-saudi-attacks.htmlDo you recall what happened last time we had boots on the ground in the KSA?

[TheGreatYacht]

This Is The Latest Desperate MSM Attempt To Trick You Into Buying Their Iran Lie

https://youtu.be/LTamD-FrUbg

[Winehole23]

Tl;dr

What's the trick, TGY?

[SnakeBoy]

You certainly haven't mentioned anything.

I've just been sharing articles related to the topic but I am they lol


Do you recall what happened last time we had boots on the ground in the KSA?

Some people did something?

[Winehole23]

I've just been sharing articles related to the topic but I am they lol



Some people did something?Saudis mainly, bankrolled by a Saudi tycoon.

[SnakeBoy]

Saudi Recovery From Oil Attack Isn’t All It Seems
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-27/saudi-recovery-from-oil-attack-isn-t-all-it-seems-oil-strategy

[spurraider21]

United States sending troops to bolster Saudi defenses after attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-usa-pentagon-idUSKBN1W52K3


US destroyer famous for ‘self-defense strikes’ on Yemen redeploys to Saudi coast as Pentagon prepares more purely defensive assets
https://www.rt.com/news/469335-nitze-destroyer-yemen-saudi-iran/
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170521182043-20-trump-saudi-arabia-0521-exlarge-169.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170521182043-20-trump-saudi-arabia-0521-exlarge-169.jpg

Just curious, do you know what that pic is from? I've seen it posted a lot since the attack but never a mention of what it actually is.

[spurraider21]

Just curious, do you know what that pic is from? I've seen it posted a lot since the attack but never a mention of what it actually is.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-orb-globe-saudi-arabia-what-was-it-2017-5

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-orb-globe-saudi-arabia-what-was-it-2017-5

:tu

Pretty funny the inaugural for the Global Center for Combatting Extremist Ideology has become a symbol for evil global domination.

[Winehole23]

:tu

Pretty funny the inaugural for the Global Center for Combatting Extremist Ideology has become a symbol for evil global domination.What's so funny about that?

I can hardly think of a more perfect Orwellian cover for evil globalism. You start by defining all resistance as deviant and extreme.

[Winehole23]

The memberahip of Saudi Arabia in such an organization should have tipped you off as to the bona fides of this particular "anti-extremist" org.

[SnakeBoy]

What's so funny about that?


https://66.media.tumblr.com/1ee9c8d7cf79e936cf706ac6c1179176/tumblr_nb99x1fR4L1rrkahjo2_250.gif

[clambake]

You start by defining all resistance as deviant and extreme.

[spurraider21]

:tu

Pretty funny the inaugural for the Global Center for Combatting Extremist Ideology has become a symbol for evil global domination.
tbh i first started using it as a meme more than anything... after chrisbot would post random pictures of obama standing in the same shot as comey with captions like "a picture is worth 1000 words" i thought this was a pretty comical comeback. now i just use it everytime trump does saudi's bidding.

and i've also joked about how king salmon coincidentally has his hands over the americas

[SnakeBoy]

Exclusive: Saudi Aramco lures sovereign funds to hit $2 trillion IPO valuation - sources
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-saudi-aramco-ipo-investment-exclusive/exclusive-saudi-aramco-lures-sovereign-funds-to-hit-2-trillion-ipo-valuation-sources-idUKKBN1WB1GD?il=0


“There’s no turning back now,” one of the sources said, adding that Aramco was “going ahead” with the IPO.

One of the sources said Aramco could announce its intention to float on Oct. 20, with analysts’ reports expected the same day. Analysts have been holding meetings at Aramco’s headquarters in Dhahran this week.

Might possibly qualify as a reason to lie about production

[Winehole23]

Exclusive: Saudi Aramco lures sovereign funds to hit $2 trillion IPO valuation - sources
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-saudi-aramco-ipo-investment-exclusive/exclusive-saudi-aramco-lures-sovereign-funds-to-hit-2-trillion-ipo-valuation-sources-idUKKBN1WB1GD?il=0



Might possibly qualify as a reason to lie about productionThat’s nicely understated.

[Winehole23]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1ee9c8d7cf79e936cf706ac6c1179176/tumblr_nb99x1fR4L1rrkahjo2_250.gif
Saudi Arabia upholding human rights and punishing extremism is a sick joke.

[Winehole23]

And so is anyone who would team up with them to do so.

[TheGreatYacht]

How The US Government And MSM Are Knowingly & Aggressively Lying About The Iran Nuclear Deal

https://youtu.be/aaSux-knUuQ

[SnakeBoy]

Yemen's Houthi rebels release Saudi attack video

Saudi Arabia has not yet responded to the Houthi claim that 500 of its forces were killed or wounded in major attack.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/yemen-houthi-rebels-release-saudi-attack-video-190929130644121.html

[SnakeBoy]

Iran's oil sector on 'full alert' against attacks
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/irans-oil-sector-on-full-alert-against-attacks/articleshow/71363300.cms?from=mdr

[Winehole23]

Yemen's Houthi rebels release Saudi attack video

Saudi Arabia has not yet responded to the Houthi claim that 500 of its forces were killed or wounded in major attack.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/yemen-houthi-rebels-release-saudi-attack-video-190929130644121.htmlPoor KSA, can't win a war in Yemen with 10 years of substantial help from the UK, the USA and the UAE. Now they're suffering incursions into their own territory.

Embarrassing!

[Winehole23]

if bona fide, looks like the Houthis surrounded an armored column:

1178309037076680706

[SnakeBoy]

if bona fide, looks like the Houthis surrounded an armored column:

1178309037076680706

Well let's wait and see what our intelligence community says and perhaps recommends.

[Winehole23]

Well let's wait and see what our intelligence community says and perhaps recommends.Waiting for the government to tell you what to think?

[ElNono]

Well let's wait and see what our intelligence community says and perhaps recommends.

hearsay!

[SnakeBoy]

Waiting for the government to tell you what to think?

Your inability to recognize sarcasm is exceptional.

[SnakeBoy]

Saudi crown prince warns of 'Iran threat' to global oil
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49874807


Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has warned that oil prices may soar if the world does not act to deter Iran.

[Winehole23]

Saudi crown prince warns of 'Iran threat' to global oil
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49874807KSA has already proven it can't protect its own facilities, asking us to believe putting more pressure on Iran will keep it secure is a stretch.

It's like Bob Gates said when he was SECDEF: Saudi Arabia wants to fight Iran to the last American.

[Winehole23]

Your inability to recognize sarcasm is exceptional.Oh?

What did you mean?

(Not rhetorical.)

[SnakeBoy]

Oh?

What did you mean?

(Not rhetorical.)

Just meant we lie a lot. "We" being our intelligence community.


hearsay!

:lol better angle tbh. I should've thought of it.

[Winehole23]

Just meant we lie a lot. "We" being our intelligence community.Oh, so you were saying you were waiting for the official lies to make up your mind.

Thanks for the clarification!

[SnakeBoy]

Bin Salman ready to recognize Israel if US helps him defeat Iran: Documentary
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/01/607576/Saudi-Arabia-Crown-Prince-bin-Salman-Israel-normalization-US-President-TrumpIran-Middle-East

[Pavlov]

Bin Salman ready to recognize Israel if US helps him defeat Iran: Documentary
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/01/607576/Saudi-Arabia-Crown-Prince-bin-Salman-Israel-normalization-US-President-TrumpIran-Middle-East:lol presstv

[SnakeBoy]

:lol presstv

I've been providing a variety of views/sources. Fair and Balanced.

[hater]

Presstv has some good tidbits tbqh sure biased but no more than CNN, fox, etc

[Pavlov]

:lol presstv

[SnakeBoy]

Pentagon shifts Mideast command center to US in preparation for war on Iran
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/10/01/iran-o01.html

[TheGreatYacht]

Three Saudi Brigades Annihilated In Devastating Houthi Offensive On Saudi Arabia - MSM Blackout

https://youtu.be/pL6VQgIW9DY