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ivanfromwestwood
09-23-2019, 06:33 PM
Out of all the youngsters on our team I feel like Forbes has another offensive level he can take it to.

Leetonidas
09-23-2019, 06:34 PM
Lol. No

Capt Bringdown
09-23-2019, 06:35 PM
Forbes is at best a poor-man's Patty Mills.

Yogatti
09-23-2019, 06:35 PM
poor man's Seth Curry

weeks
09-23-2019, 06:38 PM
He's already over-achieved compared to what our expectations were

exstatic
09-23-2019, 06:40 PM
Forbes is better than Mills or Seth Curry, will get paid, but will never be an elite scorer.

SpurPadre
09-23-2019, 06:41 PM
:lmao

ivanfromwestwood
09-23-2019, 06:50 PM
I think after his performance in the Denver series his confidence coming into this year will probably be at an all-time high. You know how I can tell he's got his confidence? He stopped licking his fingers and grabbing the bottom of his shoes every 5 Seconds :lol

SpurPadre
09-23-2019, 06:55 PM
I think after his performance in the Denver series his confidence come into this year will probably be at an all-time high. You know how I can tell he's got his confidence? He stopped licking his fingers and grabbing the bottom of his shoes every 5 Seconds :lol

As the most vocal Forbes hater throughout most of last season, I admit in the playoffs, he showed the team that he belonged. But where he belongs and is best utilized is off the bench. His defense is still one of the worst in the league and no kind of confidence will change that from him. Also, he simply does not have the athleticism or BBIQ to ever take his offense to an elite level.

mookie2001
09-23-2019, 07:37 PM
Forbes keeps getting better he is impressive. And he led the nba in games played, huge.

weeks
09-23-2019, 08:07 PM
baseline bum: you're welcome amigo

R. DeMurre
09-23-2019, 08:25 PM
Nope. He did a admirable job filling in during injury issues, but I expect him to slip behind White, Murray, and Walker by the middle of this upcoming season.

Spurtacular
09-23-2019, 08:32 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/27EhcDHnlkw1O/giphy.gif

Chinook
09-23-2019, 08:55 PM
See zero reason he can't keep getting better, but I don't think he has it in him to be an elite scorer. For one thing, he's a bit too small. There are a couple of great scoring guards, but I think it really helps to be big enough to create mismatches, and Forbes can't do that. Maybe he can get to where Lou Williams is, though. I just feel like in addition to being too small, he is a little too slow to really get his shot off against concentrated defense like he would have to as a main option.

Dex
09-23-2019, 10:58 PM
See zero reason he can't keep getting better, but I don't think he has it in him to be an elite scorer. For one thing, he's a bit too small. There are a couple of great scoring guards, but I think it really helps to be big enough to create mismatches, and Forbes can't do that. Maybe he can get to where Lou Williams is, though. I just feel like in addition to being too small, he is a little too slow to really get his shot off against concentrated defense like he would have to as a main option.

Agreed. He is obviously a great catch and shoot threat, can get his shot off behind a screen, and has a serviceable floater. But he is still undersized and hasn't really shown the ability to create his own shot, which are those are the kind of qualities it takes to become an "elite" scorer.

TimmyBuckets
09-23-2019, 11:07 PM
If only he was taller


He's already over-achieved compared to what our expectations were

ivanfromwestwood
09-23-2019, 11:51 PM
Agreed. He is obviously a great catch and shoot threat, can get his shot off behind a screen, and has a serviceable floater. But he is still undersized and hasn't really shown the ability to create his own shot, which are those are the kind of qualities it takes to become an "elite" scorer.

When he was featured in the summer league he was a scoring machine. And yeah I know it's a damn Summer League but still. This year I'm hoping him and dejounte get the start and Derrick White and Lonnie Walker off the Bench

KobesAchilles
09-24-2019, 12:21 AM
I definitely think he can be an elite scorer... In Austin

Spurtacular
09-24-2019, 01:37 AM
Patfo had an elite scorer with Jimmer. But then they decided Frenchie, Fatty, and Black Ollie were more important.

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 02:15 AM
Patfo had an elite scorer with Jimmer.:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin

GusT15
09-24-2019, 05:46 AM
Bryn was averaging what,12pts in 28MPG in the regular season and 11pts in 30MPG in the Playoffs?

You don't want him to up his scoring,you want him to up his effectiveness and get his 10ppg in 20mpg instead of 30.
That way the defense has less holes,the bench shooting is stronger,the rotations work better.

Forbes was shooting 42% from 3 in the regular season (in 5 attempts per game) and 48% from 3 in the playoffs (4attempts pg).
The Spurs goal is to help him keep those numbers at those heights,and hide him better in defense.

He can be an elite shooter,he doesn't have to be an elite scorer.

spursparker9
09-24-2019, 07:13 AM
He got muscle and got guts

sananspursfan21
09-24-2019, 07:43 AM
Kind of agree with the majority here. Elite is pushing it, but he can get better. I think it’s more a lack of the physicals than actual skills that prevents him from becoming an elite scorer

spursparker9
09-24-2019, 07:57 AM
If he can be Eddie House or Steve Kerr, it would be good

ZeusWillJudge
09-24-2019, 08:35 AM
Agreed. He is obviously a great catch and shoot threat, can get his shot off behind a screen, and has a serviceable floater. But he is still undersized and hasn't really shown the ability to create his own shot, which are those are the kind of qualities it takes to become an "elite" scorer.


Saved me the trouble of saying it. Forbes can score more... if someone else provided him more opportunities.

"Elite scorer" isn't his role. His job is to stretch defenses, and he does that. If he can learn to make use of the muscle he's put on to become a better defender, then he'll be more valuable to the team. By late season/playoffs, he was showing some signs that he might be learning to play more physical D. That's really all I'm looking for from him.


Patfo had an elite scorer with Jimmer. But then they decided Frenchie, Fatty, and Black Ollie were more important.


I'm afraid I may have sustained some brain damage from reading that. Fortunately I'm a quick healer.

Russ
09-24-2019, 10:10 AM
The Spurs will give Forbes every chance to be the best he can be. That's all a cocky (good cocky) guy can ask for.

Some will continue to be surprised.

As Pop would say, life goes on.

TDomination
09-24-2019, 11:07 AM
last year he likely overachieved but i'm hoping he can do well again this year, but off the bench.

he was great against Denver, and one of our best players on the road in game 7.

To answer the question for this thread, No he won't be an elite scorer, but he can be a solid contributer off the bench.

Drom John
09-24-2019, 11:49 AM
Five Thirty Eight has Forbes as elite in not turning the ball over and rather good at 3P frequency.
Top ten predicted comparisons for 2020:

2014 Wayne Ellington
2010 Kalenna Azubuike
2012 Anthony Morrow
2013 Marco Belinelli
2016 Bojan Bogdanovic
2011 J.J. Redick
1994 B.J. Armstrong
2019 Tyler Johnson
2019 Bogdan Boddanovic
2009 Jason Kapano

benefactor
09-24-2019, 11:54 AM
Rich man's Gary Neal

Spurtacular
09-24-2019, 05:57 PM
:cry

Jimmer always been a great offensive player at every level.

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 06:34 PM
Jimmer never played better in the NBA than Forbes did last season.

joelcwu
09-25-2019, 12:29 AM
I believe Forbes will start at 2 guard position at the beginning of the season until Lonnie Walker IV proves his ability. Current starting line up lacks shooter, and Forbes proved it last season. No, Forbes will not be an elite scorer but he will be an elite shooter, just hope his recently add muscle will help his defense improve.

r0drig0lac
09-25-2019, 06:30 AM
1/10

RC_Drunkford
09-25-2019, 02:03 PM
As the most vocal Forbes hater throughout most of last season, I admit in the playoffs, he showed the team that he belonged. But where he belongs and is best utilized is off the bench. His defense is still one of the worst in the league and no kind of confidence will change that from him. Also, he simply does not have the athleticism or BBIQ to ever take his offense to an elite level.



Bryn was averaging what,12pts in 28MPG in the regular season and 11pts in 30MPG in the Playoffs?

You don't want him to up his scoring,you want him to up his effectiveness and get his 10ppg in 20mpg instead of 30.
That way the defense has less holes,the bench shooting is stronger,the rotations work better.

Forbes was shooting 42% from 3 in the regular season (in 5 attempts per game) and 48% from 3 in the playoffs (4attempts pg).
The Spurs goal is to help him keep those numbers at those heights,and hide him better in defense.

He can be an elite shooter,he doesn't have to be an elite scorer.

These 2 get it

RC_Drunkford
09-25-2019, 02:05 PM
Jimmer always been a great offensive player at every level.

in China where Kyle Anderson would win MVP

PuzzBeterson
09-27-2019, 06:57 AM
poor man's Seth Curry
A broke man's Steph Curry.

ivanfromwestwood
10-05-2019, 09:53 PM
Forbes still on fire from game 7

cool cat
10-05-2019, 09:54 PM
Best 3rd string PG in the league!

ivanfromwestwood
10-05-2019, 09:56 PM
Best 3rd string PG in the league!

:lobt2:

wildcardX
10-05-2019, 09:59 PM
Best 3rd string PG in the league!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/bd/f0/75bdf06df3fd6ddd9d3311d8cb2be029.jpg

timtonymanu
10-05-2019, 10:26 PM
Pretty impressive how he looked nothing more than a training camp invite his rookie season to what he is now. Props to him reaching this level.

duncan2k5
10-06-2019, 06:42 AM
LMFAO

duncan2k5
10-06-2019, 06:43 AM
Five Thirty Eight has Forbes as elite in not turning the ball over and rather good at 3P frequency.
Top ten predicted comparisons for 2020:

2014 Wayne Ellington
2010 Kalenna Azubuike
2012 Anthony Morrow
2013 Marco Belinelli
2016 Bojan Bogdanovic
2011 J.J. Redick
1994 B.J. Armstrong
2019 Tyler Johnson
2019 Bogdan Boddanovic
2009 Jason Kapano

He doesn't pass.. So of course he doesn't turn it over

BillMc
10-06-2019, 09:06 PM
Best 3rd string PG in the league!

Kinda like graduating last in medical school, you're still called "doctor."

John B
10-06-2019, 10:29 PM
He needs to pattern his play with JJ Reddick, Beli. He was forced to play PG but should slide back to SG. He is a shooting specialist at best.

paperboy77
10-06-2019, 10:59 PM
Lol. No

if he was 6-6 you’d be on the nuts. The guys overachieving at a high rate. What’s an elite scorer anyway? Lou Williams one? Dame? Bryn proved last year when it mattered that he can be impactful. I say he’ll keep surprising. BTW I was big on getting rid of him until last year in the PO.

Joseph Kony
10-06-2019, 11:26 PM
if he was 6-6 you’d be on the nuts. The guys overachieving at a high rate. What’s an elite scorer anyway? Lou Williams one? Dame? Bryn proved last year when it mattered that he can be impactful. I say he’ll keep surprising. BTW I was big on getting rid of him until last year in the PO.

there's a difference between being an elite scorer in the nba and a good shooter like Forbes. if Forbes was 6'6'' everyone would be on his nuts :lol but he's not so your point is irrelevant. forbes is a solid player, but he will never be an elite scorer. his ceiling is kyle korver // jj reddick. great shooters who could go off but no sane person would call them elite scorers. and no, Lou Williams is not an elite scorer

acoelho1
10-07-2019, 06:27 AM
The issue with Forbes is not height but his confidence. If he had 1/4 of Curry’s confidence, he could be an elite scorer. I would even settle for Gary Neal type of confidence. This attribute is what separates the good from great players along with talent and work ethic. He has the latter 2 in spades.

cutewizard
10-07-2019, 06:58 AM
Hmmmmm

TimDunkem
10-07-2019, 07:04 AM
there's a difference between being an elite scorer in the nba and a good shooter like Forbes. if Forbes was 6'6'' everyone would be on his nuts :lol but he's not so your point is irrelevant. forbes is a solid player, but he will never be an elite scorer. his ceiling is kyle korver // jj reddick. great shooters who could go off but no sane person would call them elite scorers. and no, Lou Williams is not an elite scorer

Nah. Those guys are elite at moving off the ball. Forbes is just a chucker.

paperboy77
10-07-2019, 07:25 AM
there's a difference between being an elite scorer in the nba and a good shooter like Forbes. if Forbes was 6'6'' everyone would be on his nuts :lol but he's not so your point is irrelevant. forbes is a solid player, but he will never be an elite scorer. his ceiling is kyle korver // jj reddick. great shooters who could go off but no sane person would call them elite scorers. and no, Lou Williams is not an elite scorer

Good answer. My point was that the guy has overachieved to a point that I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s making a name for himself for sure.

KDKSpurs24
10-07-2019, 12:56 PM
The issue with Forbes is not height but his confidence. If he had 1/4 of Curry’s confidence, he could be an elite scorer. I would even settle for Gary Neal type of confidence. This attribute is what separates the good from great players along with talent and work ethic. He has the latter 2 in spades.
To me he obviously looks like he has that confidence now so... I guess we will see this season. But I have high hopes. I don’t know about elite scorer but I see that Bryn can be highly impactful on offense

ginobilized
10-07-2019, 02:54 PM
Byn's shooting form is near perfect. Right behind Klay Thompson in mechanics. Elite scorer? Probably not. 3-point assassin who can take the dribble on closeouts, yes.
This should be a great offensive season for Bryn, he looks ready. Pop has given him the green light and that puts him in the rarefied air of Michael Finley, Gary Neal, Steve Kerr, etc.
His shot is legit.

Arcadian
10-07-2019, 03:32 PM
Probably not

acoelho1
10-07-2019, 07:39 PM
To me he obviously looks like he has that confidence now so... I guess we will see this season. But I have high hopes. I don’t know about elite scorer but I see that Bryn can be highly impactful on offense

Ive seen steady improvement from him in terms of confidence but not enough to say he could be elite. That shot is money though and he’s a much improved ball handler and gets to his spot with ease. Looks like he’s not ready to give up mins to anyone.

ivanfromwestwood
10-08-2019, 06:27 PM
Honestly think if he shoots more he'll average 20 all day

TimDunkem
10-08-2019, 07:42 PM
Honestly think if he shoots more he'll average 20 all day

That's honestly stupid. He can barely get his own shot off unless he's wide open.

But yeah - okay - give any NBA player enough shots and he'll average 20. So, maybe you're right. It would probably take him 30 fg per game though.

MultiTroll
10-08-2019, 11:16 PM
He can barely get his own shot off unless he's wide open.

But yeah - okay - give any NBA player enough shots and he'll average 20. So, maybe you're right. It would probably take him 30 fg per game though.Yep.
Gonna be more of the same. 24 points on 75% true shooting % followed by 2-7 the next night.
I'll love it if he proves otherwise.