trump impeachment watch thread

[Winehole23]

(JD, Twitter School of Law)

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1196847685002809344?s=19

oofNothing Trump did was proper.

oof

Now call Vindman a Ukrainian spy. You know you want to.

[boutons_deux]

"Certainly the President is well within his right to do that."

Julie Annie (who has gone quiet?), Sondland, etc were "proper procedures" ?

Trash et al committed bribery, not a proper procedure.

[boutons_deux]

No defense of Trash, only attempts at character assassination, to destroy the witnesses to his crime

Jim Jordan Doubles Down On Attacking Purple Heart Recipient Vindman

Jim Jordan accused an American Purple Heart recipient Lt. Colonel Vindman of being a leaker during Tuesday’s impeachment hearing.

, Republican Counsel Steve Castor suggested Vindman had dual loyalty

Republican Rep. Devin Nunes tried this earlier by leaving off Vindman’s title and he also got shutdown (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/19/vindman-devin-nunes.html) with a reminder of how he should address the officer, “Ranking member, it’s Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, please.”

racism, bigotry, misogyny, ableism — these are all easy, cheap shots that cowards use.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/19/jim-jordan-attacks-purple-heart-vindman.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/19/jim-jordan-attacks-purple-heart-vindman.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

Thanks, Ohio

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1196847685002809344?s=19

oof

Bribery isn't a proper procedure, genius

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1196854416126758912?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepRatcliffe/status/1196847658402566144?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/michaelbeatty3/status/1196806847220465665?s=19

[thispego]

Nothing Trump did was proper.

oof

Now call Vindman a Ukrainian spy. You know you want to.

Take off them blue tinted glasses, son :lol

[Reck]

Chris, this is exactly why you got banned from twitter once for bot like behavior. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RepRatcliffe/status/1196847658402566144?s=19Fact witnesses aren't used to name crimes.

You know this, don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

Take off them blue tinted glasses, son :lolIt's already been done.

Or do you think Vindman has "dual loyalty"?

[Reck]

Kurt Volker right now
https://media.giphy.com/media/1qdetoEYJkrwmIRv28/giphy.gif

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1196898083956822018?s=19

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1196898083956822018?s=19

...until.

:lol Chris obviously not watching the hearing.

[ChumpDumper]

...until.

:lol Chris obviously not watching the hearing.:lol Qhrisbot

Here you go in tweet form:

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Ambassador Volker RUINS Qrhis's retweet about Ambassador Volker!

[ChumpDumper]

Volker is apparently trying to mount some kind of brain damage defense for his previous testimony.

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[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1196893123345108993?s=19

Trump cut off a spigot and Schiff is pissed.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1196893123345108993?s=19

Trump cut off a spigot and Schiff is pissed.The DoD said Ukraine met their requirements for fighting corruption in April.

If Trump had some other formula he is free to tell the American people.

[Reck]

Wow these dudes are nuking Trump right now.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow these dudes are nuking Trump right now.And these guys are nominally pro-Trump. Republicans can't really try to assassinate these guys like the others.

[djohn2oo8]

Volker definitely committed perjury

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[thispego]

It's already been done.

Or do you think Vindman has "dual loyalty"?

“The transcript was accurate”

Alrighr alright pack it up then, boys, let’s go home :lol

[ChumpDumper]

“The transcript was accurate”

Alrighr alright pack it up then, boys, let’s go home :lol:lol "memo as your lifeline" isn't really working.

[thispego]

:lol "memo as your lifeline" isn't really working.

We have the memo (hard evidence) and witness interpretations of said memo (lol). What else do we have? Strong feelings?

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1196847685002809344?s=19

oof
he's right. there are proper procedures to do that. this wasn't one of them. lol

[ChumpDumper]

We have the memo (hard evidence) and witness interpretations of said memo (lol). What else do we have? Strong feelings?Have you watched any of the hearings?

Read any of the testimony?

It really sounds like you haven't.

This is much, much more than a single phone call.

[spurraider21]

Fact witnesses aren't used to name crimes.

You know this, don't you?
witness on the stand in criminal case

prosecutor: did he commit second degree manslaughter?

[Chris]

orange man bad

[thispego]

Have you watched any of the hearings?

Read any of the testimony?

It really sounds like you haven't.

This is much, much more than a single phone call.

Hell no I’m not watching the hearings, I got better things to do. I’ve been briefed. Big ol’ nothing burger. I know Dems desperately want it to be something, and have themselves convinced it is, but it’s just so, so weak.

[ChumpDumper]

Hell no I’m not watching the hearings, I got better things to do. I’ve been briefed. Big ol’ nothing burger. I know Dems desperately want it to be something, and have themselves convinced it is, but it’s just so, so weak.
By whom have you been briefed?

[thispego]

By whom have you been briefed?

Someone who has been watching the coverage

[spurraider21]

Someone who has been watching the coverage
how specific

[ChumpDumper]

Someone who has been watching the coverage:lol a friend?

A family member?

A Twitter pundit?

sundance?

draw and strike?

[thispego]

:lol a friend?

A family member?

A Twitter pundit?

sundance?

draw and strike?

Nobody with first-hand knowledge of the proceedings, but someone who has a brain, a pulse, and their own opinions and interpretations of things they’ve heard and read - that’s good enough right?

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody with first-hand knowledge of the proceedings, but someone who has a brain, a pulse, and their own opinions and interpretations of things they’ve heard and read - that’s good enough right?:lol why are Trumpistas so circumspect about anything resembling sources?

[spurraider21]

Nobody with first-hand knowledge of the proceedings, but someone who has a brain, a pulse, and their own opinions and interpretations of things they’ve heard and read - that’s good enough right?
so that person has their own opinions and interpretations. you dont, and have just swallowed what that mystery person spoon-fed to you?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Nunes is trying to co-opt the "drug deal" term.

[thispego]

:lol why are Trumpistas so circumspect about anything resembling sources?

President Zelensky said there was no pressure. Not even that is good enough for you? :lol

[thispego]

so that person has their own opinions and interpretations. you dont, and have just swallowed what that mystery person spoon-fed to you?


Isn’t that exactly what you guys are doing?? :lol :lol

Thanks for making my point for me, homie. Prahps.

[boutons_deux]

President Zelensky said there was no pressure. Not even that is good enough for you? :lol

he was lying, or he was too stupid, naive to understand the Trash's pressure/extortion

[djohn2oo8]

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[Blake]

witness on the stand in criminal case

prosecutor: did he commit second degree manslaughter?

Lol

[thispego]

he was lying, or he was too stupid, naive to understand the Trash's pressure/extortion

boutons we all know how bat shit crazy you are and have been for years. The fact that you’ve chosen the side you have speaks volumes. :lol

No offense tho, lov you too

[boutons_deux]

boutons we all know how bat shit crazy you are and have been for years. The fact that you’ve chosen the side you have speaks volumes. :lol

No offense tho, lov you too

G F Y

[thispego]

G F Y

damn :cry

[ChumpDumper]

President Zelensky said there was no pressure. Not even that is good enough for you? :lolSince he was just about to announce the investigations before the whistleblower ruined the scheme, no-- it's really not good enough.

You do know that Trump could retaliate if Zelensky said or says bad things about Trump, right?

[Blake]

You know it's going bad for Trump when he starts ripping into Fox News

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/471014-foxs-neil-cavuto-rips-into-trump-over-attacks-on-chris-wallaces-impeachment

Lol

[hater]

:lmao demoshits

getting obliterated right nowon primetime :lol

[spurraider21]

Isn’t that exactly what you guys are doing?? :lol :lol

Thanks for making my point for me, homie. Prahps.
no. i dont have time to watch the hearings live during the work day. but its not that difficult to find transcripts of the proceedings posted online, which i read/skim through at night at my leisure

i do pop in here during the day to get some of the headlines/soundbites and reactions.

you have told us that you have a single source filter everything for you and spit out a convenient narrative that you adopt wholesale, since you cant be bothered to do your own analysis/thinking and come to your own conclusion. for whatever reason you're willing to display your gullibility to that degree and yet are reluctant to divulge this source. it implies embarrassment as you know its probably ridiculous

[hater]

called this shit

looking like a retarded version of the Kavanqughty hearings :lmao :lmao

democats :lol

[ChumpDumper]

hater is pego's source

[Reck]

hater is pego's source

Called it!

[thispego]

Since he was just about to announce the investigations before the whistleblower ruined the scheme, no-- it's really not good enough.

You do know that Trump could retaliate if Zelensky said or says bad things about Trump, right?

You say that as if it’s a matter of fact. CNN believed (hoped) that Zelensky might say something like in a scheduled interview, but the interview never happened. Zelensky never confirmed CNN’s belief, sooo....? You got something different?

Zelensky would have been a much more effective whistleblower imvho “hey this guy is threatening to withhold aid if we don’t investigate a political opponent!”. Why has Zelensky NEVER said this? Why has he said the exact opposite of what trump is being accused of?”

Shit doesn’t hold water, bruh

[ChumpDumper]

You say that as if it’s a matter of fact. CNN believed (hoped) that Zelensky might say something like in a scheduled interview, but the interview never happened. Zelensky never confirmed CNN’s belief, sooo....? You got something different?

Zelensky would have been a much more effective whistleblower imvho “hey this guy is threatening to withhold aid if we don’t investigate a political opponent!”. Why has Zelensky NEVER said this? Why has he said the exact opposite of what trump is being accused of?”

Shit doesn’t hold water, bruh:lol I just told you Trump could retaliate and you'd support that too.

What would Zelensky gain from saying Trump is holding the aid hostage?

Why was aid held hostage in the first place and why was it only released after the whistleblower report became known?

Simple questions.

[thispego]

no. i dont have time to watch the hearings live during the work day. but its not that difficult to find transcripts of the proceedings posted online, which i read/skim through at night at my leisure

i do pop in here during the day to get some of the headlines/soundbites and reactions.

you have told us that you have a single source filter everything for you and spit out a convenient narrative that you adopt wholesale, since you cant be bothered to do your own analysis/thinking and come to your own conclusion. for whatever reason you're willing to display your gullibility to that degree and yet are reluctant to divulge this source. it implies embarrassment as you know its probably ridiculous


Your partisan impeachment coverage/recap ain’t doing you any favors, either, bro

[thispego]

:lol I just told you Trump could retaliate and you'd support that too.

What would Zelensky gain from saying Trump is holding the aid hostage?

Why was aid held hostage in the first place and why was it only released after the whistleblower report became known?

Simple questions.


The new Ukrainian leadership was being vetted for corruption that has plagued previous leadership. Standard withholding.

How exactly could Trump retaliate? What cards would Trump hold if Zelensky outed him for extortion? None. Trump would be finished and he’d already be out.

[Reck]

GYM JORDAN ALL CAPPING

[ChumpDumper]

The new Ukrainian leadership was being vetted for corruption that has plagued previous leadership. Standard withholding.Standard?

The DoD approved of their corruption fighting in April. What other vetting was there?

And show me the other instances where this was standard.

How exactly could Trump retaliate? What cards would Trump hold if Zelensky outed him for extortion? None. Trump would be finished and he’d already be out.He could just call him a liar and say they're too corrupt to help. You would agree.

[LkrFan]

let’s see. it takes a simple House majority to impeach Trump.
a 2/3 Senate majority to find Trump guilty

Dem House Majority = Check.
Dem Senate super-majority = Nope

I think we know what’s most likely going to happen. Let’s see who does or doesn’t cross the aisle.


:lmao demoshits

getting obliterated right nowon primetime :lol

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1196937864124280832?s=19

:lol

[benefactor]

hater is pego's source
seems legit

[Blake]

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A new shill is born

[ChumpDumper]

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A new shill is born:lol she just made Tedra Cobb a star.

[Reck]

Trump should go do rallies for her. :tu

[spurraider21]

Your partisan impeachment coverage/recap ain’t doing you any favors, either, bro
what impeachment coverage/recap are you referring to?

[spurraider21]

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A new shill is born
:lol what did she accomplish?

doesnt change the fact that trump withheld aid from them unless they decided to investigate biden's son for his own political benefit, as opposed to any purpose for the benefit of the US

[boutons_deux]

Elise getting destroyed by her campaign opponent and spending

one and done, this silly lady

[Winehole23]

The president's personal lawyer, who used his connection to POTUS as well as those of his business partners Fruman and Parnas to try to get Ukraine to investigate political corruption in Ukraine's energy sector, is being investigated for corrupt business dealings with a Ukrainian energy company, along with his business buddies Fruman and Parnas, who are facing charges of campaign finance crimes -- to wit, illegal foreign contributions to DJT.

https://apnews.com/196b3007d9db4747b55f9019f0f9da91

[boutons_deux]

Nunes keeps referring to the impeachment hearing as a “drug deal.” It’s not as clever as he thinks.

He thinks he’s owning the libs. He’s really owning himself.

House Intelligence Committee ranking member Devin Nunes (R-CA) derisively referred to the impeachment inquiry as a “drug deal” — a turn of phrase

meant to depict Democrats as being up to something illicit.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/19/20973297/nunes-impeachment-hearing-drug-deal

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1196965122196922368?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/aabramson/status/1196963308546482176?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1196962643493498880?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

Schiff destroying the corrupt 40% american traitors in the USA

THAT was a “perfect” summation

unlike trumps perfect bribery/extortion phone call

[boutons_deux]

https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/N-xPCGJlzJwTS-BW8ogKcnNw9tP-1z83S6WI86iZx1MysjR7QeCQMtHjIVz23G0fJPALPVETNRvnjA 8MJXPL83WbeuxQMYt0E24_RC4Mf5bFyhk72XAIP8qBv1N_XXVb yJmU5RRYvAVHxdPnWiSfRk80xE3qhev9TCH7jRMnjSkihLO_88 CYig=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/11/19/us/politics/oakImage-1574205083898/oakImage-1574205083898-articleLarge.png

[FlAVaK]

https://youtu.be/nFsaYLEBZas

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1196962643493498880?s=19Seeing nothing wrong with the call, then going directly to the NSC lawyer to put a lid in it is an interesting sequence of events.

It was interesting watching Volker, an obviously smart guy, pretend to be clueless about what was going on all around him.

Today we saw two reluctant witnesses who were basically compelled by their own oaths and the testimony of others, to give derogatory information about Trump's bid to get Ukraine involved in his campaign for reelection.

[Winehole23]

(No link given because that's my direct impression from listening to Volker and Morrison today.)

[boutons_deux]

Jeffrey Toobin on Vindman, Volker Impeachment Testimony:

‘Today Was a Graveyard for Republican Talking Points’

“Let’s start with three of them.”

“One, the idea that all of this information here was just second-hand.

“Second point, the idea that this couldn’t be an exchange because Ukraine didn’t know that the aid and the meeting were being withheld because of the failure to investigate,”

“And third, the idea ‘What’s this big deal because Ukraine got the money anyway? Ukraine didn’t have to do an investigation.'”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeffrey-toobin-on-vindman-volker-impeachment-testimony-today-was-a-graveyard-for-republican-talking-points/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeffrey-toobin-on-vindman-volker-impeachment-testimony-today-was-a-graveyard-for-republican-talking-points/)

Repugs got nothing but lies, slander, ad hominems, character assassination, and ALL of it is being squashed.

[Winehole23]

Pompeo, according to three anonymous Republicans, is searching for the off ramp:

https://time.com/5732232/mike-pompeo-kansas-senate-run-state-exit/

[TheGreatYacht]

The Moment The Impeachment Hearing Unraveled

https://youtu.be/HsE3JMdxijg

[thispego]

Standard?

The DoD approved of their corruption fighting in April. What other vetting was there?

And show me the other instances where this was standard.
He could just call him a liar and say they're too corrupt to help. You would agree.

Presidents withhold aid all the time

Yeah that’s why Trump had over a dozen listen in on the call, so he could go back and call a Zelensky a liar if he got tattled on.

[thispego]

what impeachment coverage/recap are you referring to?


Whichever liberal owned partisan fake news outlet you subscribe to

[spurraider21]

Whichever liberal owned partisan fake news outlet you subscribe to
so you have no clue how i get my news but already know that im getting it from partisan fake news

[thispego]

so you have no clue how i get my news but already know that im getting it from partisan fake news

One can only assume, given your stance

[pgardn]

You say that as if it’s a matter of fact. CNN believed (hoped) that Zelensky might say something like in a scheduled interview, but the interview never happened. Zelensky never confirmed CNN’s belief, sooo....? You got something different?

Zelensky would have been a much more effective whistleblower imvho “hey this guy is threatening to withhold aid if we don’t investigate a political opponent!”. Why has Zelensky NEVER said this? Why has he said the exact opposite of what trump is being accused of?”

Shit doesn’t hold water, bruh

The shit above is what you get when you don’t read about foreign affairs.

Zelensky is newly elected brand new to this crap called politics, he does not want to upset EITHER side. Especially when he is most likely told by any advisors that they have no idea where this problem in the US will end up. He certainly has to know Trump will get through the Senate no matter what he says. Zelensky can’t out anyone, he will ruin his own position immediately.

Does not hold water, are you fckn kidding?
It makes perfect sense Zelensky stays the hell out of it. People pretend to know the Ukrainian side and they don’t know shit. The new guy basically had no idea what WAS going on to begin with, he will say he is glad to have the support of the US. Why would he say anything else? He needs our help, not get involved in our domestic politics.

[pgardn]

People act like Ukraine is playing from some position of strength?... like they have the ability to sway this mess in the US to help them? honest to God, no wonder this whole ordeal and a basic “perfect” phone call escapes the red team.

The Ukrainians have got to wish this whole ordeal never involved them.
Wtf... people are lost.

[spurraider21]

One can only assume, given your stance


no. i dont have time to watch the hearings live during the work day. but its not that difficult to find transcripts of the proceedings posted online, which i read/skim through at night at my leisure

i do pop in here during the day to get some of the headlines/soundbites and reactions.

you have told us that you have a single source filter everything for you and spit out a convenient narrative that you adopt wholesale, since you cant be bothered to do your own analysis/thinking and come to your own conclusion. for whatever reason you're willing to display your gullibility to that degree and yet are reluctant to divulge this source. it implies embarrassment as you know its probably ridiculous

[DarrinS]

Someone thought this impeachment inquiry was a good idea

:lmao

[pgardn]

Someone thought this impeachment inquiry was a good idea

:lmao

Yeah

the orange freak when he released the stupidest phone call ever and forced the blue team to nut up.

[Winehole23]

Someone thought this impeachment inquiry was a good idea

:lmao
You think it's going well for DJT?

[DarrinS]

You think it's going well for DJT?


I think it is going horribly wrong for the dems

[DarrinS]

I think it is going horribly wrong for the dems

And the public can now see it

[Winehole23]

And the public can now see itYou speak for the public?

[Winehole23]

We don’t see things as they are; we see them as we are.https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/03/09/as-we-are/

[DarrinS]

You speak for the public?

Did I claim that?

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Did I claim that?Contextually implied.

What do you think the public saw today?

[pgardn]

And the public can now see it

Elise Stefanik(R star) questions Impeachment Witnesses:

Elise: So did you know the president would make the perfect phone call on a July 25 ?

Morrison: No

Volker: No

Elise: But you thought you heard that the president had made this phone perfect call on July 25 in April, correct?

Morrison: no, never did

Volker: No

Elise: And it was reported the perfect call was made on July 25 by Zelensky to you?

Morrison: No

Volker: Nope, never was...

Elise: Let the record show that these two witnesses have answered NO on every question concerning the perfect call July 25. Drops mic on the walk off.




Fckn hilarious!

[DarrinS]

Elise Stefanik(R star) questions Impeachment Witnesses:

Elise: So did you know the president would make the perfect phone call on a July 25 ?

Morrison: No

Volker: No

Elise: But you thought you heard that the president had made this phone perfect call on July 25 in April, correct?

Morrison: no, never did

Volker: No

Elise: And it was reported the perfect call was made on July 25 by Zelensky to you?

Morrison: No

Volker: Nope, never was...

Elise: Let the record show that these two witnesses have answered NO on every question concerning the perfect call July 25. Drops mic on the walk off.




Fckn hilarious!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZJs5iHLB0

[Winehole23]

No own take, DarrinS?

Do you suppose the public saw the minority's witnesses (Volker and Morrison) undermine some of the President's defenses?

Volker backflipped on Biden and Burisma and called the hypothesis that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election "a conspiracy theory" without any merit.

Morrison confirmed that Zelenskiy dishing dirt on Biden was a non-negotiable condition of US aid and praised Joe Biden.

I missed the Jennifer Williams testimony, what did she say?

(I'll stipulate that questions by members, (D) and (R), is largely theatrical and often cringey. It matters less than testimony.)

[Blake]

I think it is going horribly wrong for the dems

The polarization we have here is beyond incredible

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZJs5iHLB0

Of course there was not.

On that call. We all know that, we read it.

That call basically showed that the president “merely” asked a foreign leader to interfere in our election dumbass.

And of course the Ukrainian President did nothing, they had no fckn idea what was going on!

And did she ever get back to the article that put the timeline of the aid being delayed in question ?
I’ll help you with this.


No

pgardn drops mic on the walkoff.

[DarrinS]

No own take, DarrinS?

Do you suppose the public saw the minority's witnesses (Volker and Morrison) undermine some of the President's defenses?

Volker backflipped on Biden and Burisma and called the hypothesis that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election "a conspiracy theory" without any merit.

Morrison confirmed that Zelenskiy dishing dirt on Biden was a non-negotiable condition of US aid and praised Joe Biden.

I missed the Jennifer Williams testimony, what did she say?

(I'll stipulate that questions by members, (D) and (R), is largely theatrical and often cringey. It matters less than testimony.)


This is just my opinion , but I think Volker has been the best witness. He was not a a good witness for the dems.

[Winehole23]

This is just my opinion , but I think Volker has been the best witness. He was not a a good witness for the dems.
How so?

[pgardn]

Here it’s what Lindsay Graham thought about Trump and his inability to make Zelensky understand exactly what was tied to Trump continually asking for an investigation.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/lindsey-graham-trump-too-incoherent-for-quid-pro-quo.html

“I’ll just cover my eyes and try to know as little as possible what this orange twit has gone and done. I need to manipulate the orange funk for OUR foreign policy objectives but he is so stubbornly stupid all I can do is praise him personally, yet admonish him when he acts like his age and IQ. I hate this game yet he will get red deeds done. Defend Ukraine against Russia”

[Blake]

How so?

Because that's the going righty narrative these days

[Winehole23]

:lol

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1196851329127370752?s=19

[DMX7]

:lol

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You can't bring that up. I think Jim has actually said it's illegal to even talk about it.

[Blake]

Doesn't matter what else comes out..... Everyone's already made up their minds

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/19/780540637/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-say-impeachment-hearings-wont-change-their-minds

[Winehole23]

Doesn't matter what else comes out..... Everyone's already made up their minds

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/19/780540637/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-say-impeachment-hearings-wont-change-their-minds
The only suspense left is the minor suspense of a Senate vote on removal. The only way I can imagine it happening is Sen. McConnell deciding DJT is a liability to his leadership of the US Senate and whipping Republicans to pink slip him.

Which is to say, a very remote chance.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[LkrFan]

¡Buenos días a mis perras y a mis negros! ¡Empecemos con esta mierda! :toast

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1197155064093257730?s=19

[LkrFan]

1197151498666422272



:lmao

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1197155833303457793

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1197156174220660737?s=19

:wow

[djohn2oo8]

1197154612387729408


Goldman is licking his chops

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/gregolear/status/1197156337341403137?s=19

#PresidentPelosiPERI:lolD

[djohn2oo8]

1197156306064461825

#TheSnitching

[LkrFan]

1197156306064461825

#TheSnitching

Kobe and D'Lo would be proud :lol

[Winehole23]

Like DarrinS said last night, the public sees what's happening. Sondland is throwing Giuliani, Pompeo and Pence under the bus. He's also confirming DJT's corrupt shakedown of Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1086541

[djohn2oo8]

1197156832667734017

[djohn2oo8]

1197157826541637632

[djohn2oo8]

1197158439736229888

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/1197159250344235008?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

Nunes “live from alternate planet” spouting his garbage

[Winehole23]

Pretty much the only defense available now is that DJT's actions aren't impeachable; Sondland just kicked the legs off the stool DJT' s defenders -- and DJT himself -- were sitting on.

[djohn2oo8]

1197158017839587328

[Spurs Homer]

Pretty much the only defense available now is that DJT's actions aren't impeachable; Sondland just kicked the legs off the stool DJT' s defenders -- and DJT himself -- were sitting on.


meaning - pelosi’s use of

bribery

that is in the constitution

was pretty brilliant!

[Winehole23]

Also, the impeachment inquiry could get bigger. State Department and the VP were either in on it or sat on their hands while this all played out.

Loyalty to DJT has been very expensive for many of the men who serve him, and will be again.

[Winehole23]

meaning - pelosi’s use of

bribery

that is in the constitution

was pretty brilliant!Not my point, and it strikes me as more obvious than brilliant. Bribery is a straightforward description of the kind of abuse of power at issue.

[Spurs Homer]

Rich boy sonland begging for sympathy...

state dept/WH -

threw him under the bus - asked him NOT to cooperate then -
sabotaged him by not helping him to prepare

making him look like a liar lol


thrown under the bus


so pompeo et al now get thrown under too...

[Winehole23]

This strikes me as a particularly dangerous juncture. The implication that the VP either knew or was somehow involved, raises the possibility he will be impeached as well.

If that happens all hell will break loose.

[djohn2oo8]

Dayummmm!!!

[boutons_deux]

This strikes me as a particularly dangerous juncture. The implication that the VP either knew or was somehow involved, raises the possibility he will be impeached as well.

If that happens all hell will break loose.

Dems don't have the balls to impeach SoS and VP

Barr's 100% LYING synopsis of Mueller is 100% impeachable, esp since the report had 9 instances of impeachable obstruction by Trash

[Winehole23]

Dems don't have the balls.

Barr's 100% LYING synopsis of Mueller is 100% impeachable.You think everything is impeachable, boutons.

[Spurs Homer]

Putin convinced dumbshit trump that

”ukraine tried to take me down”


fucking ass-clown trump

[Winehole23]

Anybody watching this?

Sondland better have a bulletproof limo to leave this hearing.

[Spurs Homer]

...all roads lead to russia...


this ukraine plot ...in the end


would exonerate russia!

[djohn2oo8]

That was a whole lot of names

[Spurs Homer]

Anybody watching this?

Sondland better have a bulletproof limo to leave this hearing.

lol

john wick is picking him up in the basement garage!

[Winehole23]

That was a whole lot of names
Sondland is throwing everybody under the bus. Big CYA energy.

[Spurs Homer]

Trump gonna need another

”medical check-up”


:rollin:rollin

[boutons_deux]

You think everything is impeachable, boutons.

no, just a LOT of Trash and his mafiya is impeachable.

Total Barr dishonesty as US AG is impeachable coverup of Trash's impeachable obstruction.

[djohn2oo8]

Yes!!!!! :lol

[Spurs Homer]

Quid pro quo is so..


last week

[Blake]

Sondland is throwing everybody under the bus. Big CYA energy.

Well the next step for Trumpets is to discredit Sondland now as biased and angry

[djohn2oo8]

More names :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Trump: “activate the goal post moving crew”

and

”dispatch the GOP conspiracy- rabbit-hole special unit”

immediately!

[djohn2oo8]

This is amazing

[djohn2oo8]

Pence!!!! :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Sondland's hotel business is apparently suffering.

[Trill Clinton]

Whoa whoa whoa!

[Trill Clinton]

pardon if already posted

1181560708808486914

[boutons_deux]

The incompetence is UnPresidented

A new White House adviser just flubbed Gordon Sondland's title. Here's why that's noteworthy. (https://theweek.com/speedreads/879652/new-white-house-adviser-just-flubbed-gordon-sondlands-title-heres-why-thats-noteworthy)



Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi,

who was temporarily brought onto (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/17/trump-great-womem-typo/4222255002/) the White House team to deliver "proactive impeachment messaging and other special projects as they arise," per an administration official (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/06/trump-impeachment-pam-bondi-tony-sayegh-066919),

stumbled when it came to that very messaging during a CBS interview Wednesday before a major public impeachment hearing.

"Hired to bolster White House communications on impeachment,

Pam Bondi goes on TV and repeatedly calls the US ambassador to the EU the US ambassador to Ukraine. (This distinction is pretty important here.)"

“He was the Ambassador to Ukraine,” Bondi said inaccurately multiple times on CBS.

“The President does not know him very well. :lol Of course he knows him, he’s the Ambassador.” :lol

https://theweek.com/speedreads/879652/new-white-house-adviser-just-flubbed-gordon-sondlands-title-heres-why-thats-noteworthy (https://theweek.com/speedreads/879652/new-white-house-adviser-just-flubbed-gordon-sondlands-title-heres-why-thats-noteworthy)

Florida Woman, rapid study, quick learner

[Winehole23]

Well the next step for Trumpets is to discredit Sondland now as biased and angry

Sure.

Sondland didn't inspire confidence in his credibility when he revised his testimony previously. He's also relying heavily on the the State Dept stonewalling for his lack of recollection. State didn't let Sondland have call readouts and diplomatic cables to prepare for testimony. Pompeo more or less hung Sondland out to dry -- which may explain Sondland's openness today.

[Winehole23]

Majority counsel just laid the grounds for obstruction by the SOS.

[boutons_deux]

Sure.

Sondland didn't inspire confidence in his credibility when he revised his testimony previously. He's also relying heavily on the the State Dept stonewalling for his lack of recollection. State didn't let Sondland have call readouts and diplomatic cables to prepare for testimony. Pompeo more or less hung Sondland out to dry -- which may explain Sondland's openness today.

he "has the receipts" which bolsters his credibility.

The Big Highlights From Gordon Sondland’s Opening Statement

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-big-highlights-from-gordon-sondlands-public-impeachment-testimony (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-big-highlights-from-gordon-sondlands-public-impeachment-testimony)

[Spurs Homer]

Schiff nailed down the two

official acts
(wh mtg/400 million in military aid)


BRIBERY

[djohn2oo8]

Goldman is great

[TSA]

Sondland slams the door on Trump holding up military aid and all you fucks are left with is a White House meeting being held up :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Sondland slams the door on Trump holding up military aid and all you fucks are left with is a White House meeting being held up :rollin
Sondland just testified the aid was tied to the investigations. Quid pro quo you illiterate motherfucker :lmao

[Winehole23]

Sondland's obviously not going for a pardon, he's pot committed to let it all hang out -- if he's smart, no guarantees there.

[Spurs Homer]

Sondland slams the door on Trump holding up military aid and all you fucks are left with is a White House meeting being held up :rollin

you must be watching a different hearing

schiff nailed those two things down

[Winehole23]

Sondland slams the door on Trump holding up military aid and all you fucks are left with is a White House meeting being held up :rollin
How do you figure that?

Be specific if you can.

[djohn2oo8]

1197180658579312640

[DMX7]

In any court of law, this would be case closed: Guilty. What else is there to say?

[boutons_deux]

TSA and other Trash-fellating ilk LOSING horrifically.

Now the Senate Repugs will prove themselves to be craven assholes for not convicting Trash.

[Spurs Homer]

Pence is more dangerous than trump

he knows when to

say nothing
admit nothing
confirm nothing

and basically - be invisible.

[Winehole23]

1197160466604314624

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/taradublinrocks/status/1197179324773781504?s=19

[DarrinS]

So, we're back to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?

[DMX7]

Pence is more dangerous than trump

he knows when to

say nothing
admit nothing
confirm nothing

and basically - be invisible.

Ninja Pence

[Winehole23]

So, we're back to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?Same thing, tbh.

[LkrFan]

Sondland just testified the aid was tied to the investigations. Quid pro quo you illiterate motherfucker :lmao

The
Stupid
Aas

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Sondland hotels are facing backlash over Trump ties: ‘Do you want to support him?’

has been bad for his personal business.

social media users are venting their frustration against his hotel chain on Yelp,

“If you’re looking for a hotel owned by a Trump supporter who gave the campaign a million dollars

in exchange for an ambassadorship that he’s unqualified for

so he can extort foreign leaders into attacking fellow Americans, look no further,”

“BONUS: plush bath robes and white hoods available in each room.”

Customers once raved about the hotels, but since his role in the Ukraine scheme has become known, they have been

peppered with one-star reviews.

“Booked a rez and then discovered Dossier is owned by Gordon Sondland, a MAJOR TRUMP DONOR,”

The negative reviews usually mention Sondland’s ties to Trump and the impeachment saga,

“I won’t be patronizing this business anymore, nor the others that he owns.”

“Anyone who cares about America should not do any business or stay at any of Gordon Sondland’s hotels.

Not until he fulfills his duty as a citizen to testify and turn over all relevant documents to the House of Representatives,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/sondlands-hotels-are-facing-backlash-over-trump-ties-do-you-want-to-support-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3047 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/sondlands-hotels-are-facing-backlash-over-trump-ties-do-you-want-to-support-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3047)

[DMX7]

So, we're back to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?

Please explain what you perceive to be the difference between "quid pro quo" and bribery.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1197184380973793281?s=19

[TSA]

How do you figure that?

Be specific if you can.

We are right back where we were with his closed door testimony and today Sondland repeatedly testified that he never heard from Trump that military aid was tied to investigations. In fact he never heard from anyone the military aid was tied to investigations.

Trying to impeach over a White House visit being held up :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1197184380973793281?s=19
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Please explain what you perceive to be the difference between "quid pro quo" and bribery.

:lol

Darrin EXPLAIN anything? :lol

[TSA]

Sondland just testified the aid was tied to the investigations. Quid pro quo you illiterate motherfucker :lmao

Who told him that the aid was tied to the investigations?

[Winehole23]

TSA thinks DJT not talking about the linkage explicitly, but instead outsourcing the deal to his personal lawyer -- "talk to Rudy" -- is a positive defense.

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1197184380973793281?s=19


:elephant

[djohn2oo8]

1197181523943985152

[djohn2oo8]

Who told him that the aid was tied to the investigations?
Who told him it wasn’t ?

[Splits]

We are right back where we were with his closed door testimony and today Sondland repeatedly testified that he never heard from Trump that military aid was tied to investigations. In fact he never heard from anyone the military aid was tied to investigations.

Trying to impeach over a White House visit being held up :rollin

:lmao this logic

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeamPelosi/status/1197184901503737862?s=19

Orange Tweetstorm coming in 3, 2... :lol

[TSA]

TSA thinks DJT not talking about the linkage explicitly, but instead outsourcing the deal to his personal lawyer -- "talk to Rudy" -- is a positive defense.

Who testified that Rudy told them the military aid was tied to investigations?

[Spurs Homer]

Who told him that the aid was tied to the investigations?

TWO witnesses who took meticulous notes

BOTH

testified that sonland told them he had just spoken to trump and both aid & mtg were conditioned


so i predict sonland will AMEND his testimony- yet again

so - comrade

be careful spiking that ball!


lololol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/gregolear/status/1197187227807309830?s=19

[Splits]

:lmao yeah, that's the headline from this morning

https://i.imgur.com/G7uN9CE.png

[TSA]

Who told him it wasn’t ?

dodge #1

Who told him that the aid was tied to the investigations?

[boutons_deux]

TSA scrambling heroically with shitty little "technicalities", with Trash's cum dripping down his chin.

[Spurs Homer]

Fox news contorting themselves into pretzels lol

[TSA]

TWO witnesses who took meticulous notes

BOTH

testified that sonland told them he had just spoken to trump and both aid & mtg were conditioned


so i predict sonland will AMEND his testimony- yet again

so - comrade

be careful spiking that ball!


lololol

Sondland repeatedly testified Trump never told that military aid was tied to investigations. Sondland repeatedly testified he just assumed it was.

These hearings are a joke and you are hoping for impeachment based upon a White House meeting being held up. Support for impeachment has been dropping since the hearings started :lol

[Winehole23]

Who testified that Rudy told them the military aid was tied to investigations?Not sure we're there yet, but that's the understanding all the diplomats seem to have taken from their conversations with Giuliani, and no one contradicted that understanding until it was clear the whistleblower complaint would be made public.

[Spurs Homer]

Nunes with the tin foil response!

[Splits]

TSA getting his "yes or no" questions from Fox chyrons

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance/status/1197187950993399814?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/AriMelber/status/1197190387456196616?s=19

[TSA]

Not sure we're there yet, but that's the understanding all the diplomats seem to have taken from their conversations with Giuliani, and no one contradicted that understanding until it was clear the whistleblower complaint would be made public.

Not sure we're there yet? No one has testified to that to this point, who do you think is left to testify that is going to say that?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1197190375812861953?s=19

[Splits]

1197189206629593091

Never Trumper Wallace

[Winehole23]

dp

[Winehole23]

Not sure we're there yet? No one has testified to that to this point, who do you think is left to testify that is going to say that?Sondland just said "Guiliani made certain demands."

[Winehole23]

No surprise Nunes didn't drill down on that one.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1197184965894651910?s=19

I don't know this MuFucka!
--David Dennison, pr:lolbably

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1197192345357295625?s=19

[spurraider21]

So, we're back to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?
:lmao Darrin focusing on the big issues as usual

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status/1197193169248669697?s=19

[djohn2oo8]

1197193502536454145
:lmao

[Splits]

Does everyone forget about Mulvaney?


Did he also mention to me in passing the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about that. But that's it, and that's why we held up the money."

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1197194407772119040?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1197194386028793859?s=19

[Winehole23]

Are Pompeo, Mulvaney and Bolton under subpoena?

If not, hardly seems avoidable now.

[TSA]

Sondland just said "Guiliani made certain demands."

What demands? Be specific.

[boutons_deux]

Does everyone forget about Mulvaney?

dumberer TX hick shitbag Jimmy Ricky Perry member of Three Amigos.

[Winehole23]

What demands? Be specific.Sondland didn't say, but the question makes his reply contextually clear.

I would imagine that'll be followed up on when the majority members get to question Sondland.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1197196071308582912?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1197195864554516486?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1197196336447328257?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DemWrite/status/1197170899935301632?s=19

He out there sanging like Elvis :lol

[boutons_deux]

Cadet Bone Spurs Accuses Vindman of Becoming a War Hero Just to Make Him Look Bad

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5dd552f2b174d900084c843c/master/w_727,c_limit/Borowitz-Vindman.jpg


WASHINGTON )—Moments after the decorated veteran testified to Congress on Tuesday, Donald Trump accused Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman of becoming a war hero “just to make me look bad.”

In a vicious broadside on Twitter, Trump claimed that

Vindman carried out an “evil plan, years in the making” to “load himself up with medals”
that would give his future testimony against Trump greater credibility.

“Fifteen years ago, he went to fight in Iraq, thinking to himself, ‘Boy, this is going to help me when I try to attack Trump someday,’ ” Trump tweeted. “This is how the Never Trumpers roll.”

When Vindman earned a Purple Heart, Trump wrote, “His scheme to attack me personally really started coming together.”

Trump contrasted Vindman, whom he called a “disgraceful showboat,”

unfavorably with Representative Devin Nunes, whom he labelled “a great American.”

“Say what you will about Devin Nunes, he’ll never go and do something heroic,” Trump tweeted.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-vindman-of-becoming-a-war-hero-just-to-make-him-look-bad (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-vindman-of-becoming-a-war-hero-just-to-make-him-look-bad)

[LkrFan]

Cadet Bone Spurs Accuses Vindman of Becoming a War Hero Just to Make Him Look Bad

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5dd552f2b174d900084c843c/master/w_727,c_limit/Borowitz-Vindman.jpg


WASHINGTON )—Moments after the decorated veteran testified to Congress on Tuesday, Donald Trump accused Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman of becoming a war hero “just to make me look bad.”

In a vicious broadside on Twitter, Trump claimed that

Vindman carried out an “evil plan, years in the making” to “load himself up with medals”
that would give his future testimony against Trump greater credibility.

“Fifteen years ago, he went to fight in Iraq, thinking to himself, ‘Boy, this is going to help me when I try to attack Trump someday,’ ” Trump tweeted. “This is how the Never Trumpers roll.”

When Vindman earned a Purple Heart, Trump wrote, “His scheme to attack me personally really started coming together.”

Trump contrasted Vindman, whom he called a “disgraceful showboat,”

unfavorably with Representative Devin Nunes, whom he labelled “a great American.”

“Say what you will about Devin Nunes, he’ll never go and do something heroic,” Trump tweeted.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-vindman-of-becoming-a-war-hero-just-to-make-him-look-bad (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accuses-vindman-of-becoming-a-war-hero-just-to-make-him-look-bad)

:lmao

[TSA]

:lol there was nothing to investigate :lol

https://tass.com/world/1090971/amp?__twitter_impression=true

KIEV, November 20. /TASS/. The Ukrainian Office of the Prosecutor General has drawn up an indictment against the owner of the Burisma Holdings energy company, ex-Ecology Minister Nikolai Zlochevsky, that contains information that the son of former US Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter, as a Burisma board member along with his partners received $16.5 million for their services, Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada MP from the ruling Servant of the People party Alexander Dubinsky told a press conference on Wednesday, citing the investigation’s materials. According to him, the money came from duplicitous criminal activity.
"Zlochevsky was charged with this new accusation by the Office of the Prosecutor General but the press ignored it," the MP said. "It was issued on November 14."
According to the politician, "the son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering." He also clarified that "Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens."
Dubinsky stressed that the information on Hunter Biden’s income under his contract with Burisma is a "link that reveals how money is siphoned [from Ukraine]."
The MP explained that this information makes up a part of a large-scale scheme of Zlochevsky’s money laundering that involved politicians from the time of ex-President Viktor Yanukovich who continued this scheme under another (now former) President Pyotr Poroshenko, with the backing of former Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine Valeria Gontareva.
"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," Dubinksy claimed. He then added that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."
Another Verkhovna Rada MP, Andrei Derkach, claimed that the US Franklin Templeton Investments management company was also involved in the scheme. "The investigation suggests that the Yanukovichs illegally obtained $7.4 billion and laundered it through an investment fund close to the US Democratic Party as government domestic loan bonds," he pointed out.
Dubisky stressed that through the implementation of this scheme Ukraine has money siphoned from it with high interest rates — "40% of the state budget is spent on the debt service." "This amount — 440 billion hryvnia [around $18.18 billion — TASS] in the end of 2020 — is the last step towards a default and then Ukraine will go bankrupt either by the end of 2020 or the beginning of 2021," he concluded.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Rosie/status/1197171701194338304?s=19

:wow

[ChumpDumper]

So, we're back to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?Darrin, are you a stupid person?

Serious question.

[LkrFan]

Mike Pompeo bout to tap out
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1197199002141376513?s=19

[LkrFan]

Darrin, are you a stupid person?

Serious question.

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1197179739355508736?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1197201606883848192?s=19

:lmao

[Spurs Homer]

:lol there was nothing to investigate :lol

https://tass.com/world/1090971/amp?__twitter_impression=true

KIEV, November 20. /TASS/. The Ukrainian Office of the Prosecutor General has drawn up an indictment against the owner of the Burisma Holdings energy company, ex-Ecology Minister Nikolai Zlochevsky, that contains information that the son of former US Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter, as a Burisma board member along with his partners received $16.5 million for their services, Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada MP from the ruling Servant of the People party Alexander Dubinsky told a press conference on Wednesday, citing the investigation’s materials. According to him, the money came from duplicitous criminal activity.
"Zlochevsky was charged with this new accusation by the Office of the Prosecutor General but the press ignored it," the MP said. "It was issued on November 14."
According to the politician, "the son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering." He also clarified that "Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens."
Dubinsky stressed that the information on Hunter Biden’s income under his contract with Burisma is a "link that reveals how money is siphoned [from Ukraine]."
The MP explained that this information makes up a part of a large-scale scheme of Zlochevsky’s money laundering that involved politicians from the time of ex-President Viktor Yanukovich who continued this scheme under another (now former) President Pyotr Poroshenko, with the backing of former Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine Valeria Gontareva.
"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," Dubinksy claimed. He then added that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."
Another Verkhovna Rada MP, Andrei Derkach, claimed that the US Franklin Templeton Investments management company was also involved in the scheme. "The investigation suggests that the Yanukovichs illegally obtained $7.4 billion and laundered it through an investment fund close to the US Democratic Party as government domestic loan bonds," he pointed out.
Dubisky stressed that through the implementation of this scheme Ukraine has money siphoned from it with high interest rates — "40% of the state budget is spent on the debt service." "This amount — 440 billion hryvnia [around $18.18 billion — TASS] in the end of 2020 — is the last step towards a default and then Ukraine will go bankrupt either by the end of 2020 or the beginning of 2021," he concluded.




***alert*****

”rabbit-hole” ahead!!!!

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1197201468119486464?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lol there was nothing to investigate :lol

https://tass.com/world/1090971/amp?__twitter_impression=true

KIEV, November 20. /TASS/. The Ukrainian Office of the Prosecutor General has drawn up an indictment against the owner of the Burisma Holdings energy company, ex-Ecology Minister Nikolai Zlochevsky, that contains information that the son of former US Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter, as a Burisma board member along with his partners received $16.5 million for their services, Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada MP from the ruling Servant of the People party Alexander Dubinsky told a press conference on Wednesday, citing the investigation’s materials. According to him, the money came from duplicitous criminal activity.
"Zlochevsky was charged with this new accusation by the Office of the Prosecutor General but the press ignored it," the MP said. "It was issued on November 14."
According to the politician, "the son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering." He also clarified that "Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens."
Dubinsky stressed that the information on Hunter Biden’s income under his contract with Burisma is a "link that reveals how money is siphoned [from Ukraine]."
The MP explained that this information makes up a part of a large-scale scheme of Zlochevsky’s money laundering that involved politicians from the time of ex-President Viktor Yanukovich who continued this scheme under another (now former) President Pyotr Poroshenko, with the backing of former Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine Valeria Gontareva.
"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," Dubinksy claimed. He then added that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."
Another Verkhovna Rada MP, Andrei Derkach, claimed that the US Franklin Templeton Investments management company was also involved in the scheme. "The investigation suggests that the Yanukovichs illegally obtained $7.4 billion and laundered it through an investment fund close to the US Democratic Party as government domestic loan bonds," he pointed out.
Dubisky stressed that through the implementation of this scheme Ukraine has money siphoned from it with high interest rates — "40% of the state budget is spent on the debt service." "This amount — 440 billion hryvnia [around $18.18 billion — TASS] in the end of 2020 — is the last step towards a default and then Ukraine will go bankrupt either by the end of 2020 or the beginning of 2021," he concluded.Good to see you're getting your news directly from Russian state sources now, comrade.

[Spurs Homer]

Good to see you're getting your news directly from Russian state sources now, comrade.

lol

might as well come right out and fly his russian flag proudly!

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1197198960609439748

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_War_Economy/status/1197200480532914176

:lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Suuuure....

both volker and sonland


two ukrainian experts representing the USA


NEVER EVER

connected Burisma & Bidens


oh sure...

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1197198960609439748

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_War_Economy/status/1197200480532914176

:lmaoHey, TSA. Have the Russians or any other of your sources come up with a totes innocent narrative for all these actions RE: Ukraine?

All of you shut the fuck up about it whenever you're asked. Something wrong with your cut-n-paste fingers?

[Splits]

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this is a Spurs board so...

[djohn2oo8]

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[benefactor]

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:lol

[TSA]

Suuuure....

both volker and sonland


two ukrainian experts representing the USA


NEVER EVER

connected Burisma & Bidens


oh sure...George Kent testified he was so concerned about Burisma and the Bidens that he took those concerns to the Obama administration in 2015 and 2016.

Your goddess Marie Yovanovitch sure knew about the connections between Burisma and Bidens. The Obama administration was so concerned about these connections that they coached her on how to answer questions if asked.

[TSA]

These hearing were a joke and had the exact opposite effect that dems were hoping for. The public now cares less and wants impeachment less :lol

[ChumpDumper]

George Kent testified he was so concerned about Burisma and the Bidens that he took those concerns to the Obama administration in 2015 and 2016.

Your goddess Marie Yovanovitch sure knew about the connections between Burisma and Bidens. The Obama administration was so concerned about these connections that they coached her on how to answer questions if asked.What crimes are you saying Hunter Biden committed?

[boutons_deux]

These hearing were a joke and had the exact opposite effect that dems were hoping for. The public now cares less and wants impeachment less :lol

Most Americans Think Trump Committed An Impeachable Offense

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-think-trump-committed-an-impeachable-offense/

:lol :lol TSA + ilk's DESPERATION is hilarious

Repugs and WH are shitting their pants

trying to defend Trash by attacking, character assassinating each and every witness,

not by PROVING that Trash + mafiya are innocent

Why is Trash, acting as always GUILTY AS HELL, blocking people and docs from the Dems?

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao President Sharpie Dennison's cue cards.

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[boutons_deux]

Ken Starr: Sondland’s Testimony

‘Has Been One Of Those Bombshell Days’

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ken-starr-sondland-testimony-reaction?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ken-starr-sondland-testimony-reaction?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

It would be deliciously HILARIOUS if Trash lost his Presidency trying to smear Biden then Biden not getting the nomination. :lol