Spurs and DeRozan Discussing Extension

[RC_Drunkford]

do we have cap room to sign him outright? if we have to ship out DDR to get it done, may as well acquire him in the same deal. that may necessitate giving up a pick, but im ok with that

if DeFrozan opts out yes. Or if we move Mills and waive Lyles. A trade is cool but I wouldn't give up any picks for an expiring

[exstatic]

if DeFrozan opts out yes. Or if we move Mills and waive Lyles. A trade is cool but I wouldn't give up any picks for an expiring

Or for a player who’s played 551 games in 12 seasons. He’s the poster child for NBA China dolls.

[EasyMoney]

Danilo is way too injury prone to replace DeMar with.

[Chinook]

Yeah, I'm down with moving Mills and Beli (and a first) to get Gallo. He completes the SL, and giving up the pick is more palatable when it also sheds Mills' money. I'm not okay with a DeRozan/Gallo swap in any fashion, certainly not in one where the Spurs give up DMDR AND a pick.

[CGD]

Sekou, unloading DDR, and getting Galo- who got a lot of all star consideration and fits better with the Spurs than DeRozan does for first. It's a no-brainer to add a first IMO.

Reasonable minds can differ; I just don’t value Gallo on an expiring Deal the same way. So, shipping DDR for essentially Seku and a rental (a nice one maybe) seems a little thin to me.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

ddr saved the spursies ass again

thanks demar

[tim_duncan_fan]

Have we had a breakthrough? Has Demar FINALLY figured out that attacking the basket is the intelligent way to shoot 2-pointers?

[exstatic]

Have we had a breakthrough? Has Demar FINALLY figured out that attacking the basket is the intelligent way to shoot 2-pointers?

Having DJ to facilitate, and allow DD to just score will make a huge difference in his scoring choices.

[Joseph Kony]

Have we had a breakthrough? Has Demar FINALLY figured out that attacking the basket is the intelligent way to shoot 2-pointers?

No. Because he hit a lot of two point jumpers too. DD does this and he did it last year. He will have games where he is on attacking the basket and looking like he is a legit #2. then he has games where he is passive and disinterested and he doesnt get a call at the rim and he gets in his feelings and he doesnt drive. i'll believe it when i see it for a few months tbh

[BackHome]

How about moving him for Brogden the Serbian kid playing for the Kings he has a nice 3 game.

[cd021]

Reasonable minds can differ; I just don’t value Gallo on an expiring Deal the same way. So, shipping DDR for essentially Seku and a rental (a nice one maybe) seems a little thin to me.

There's no reason for OKC to move Galo for two expiring, last season he was viewed as a potential all-star selection. If the asking price is a first for him, then that is a price a team is probably willing to pay for him. That team would also have his bird rights and be in pretty good position to re-sign him. Getting Sekou in that hypothetical would probably be enough to off set the loss of a 1st rounder.

[Mugen]

Yeah, I'm down with moving Mills and Beli (and a first) to get Gallo. He completes the SL, and giving up the pick is more palatable when it also sheds Mills' money. I'm not okay with a DeRozan/Gallo swap in any fashion, certainly not in one where the Spurs give up DMDR AND a pick.

I'd love that but Patty is literally, and without hyperbole, the safest guy on the roster. Pop would never ever trade his ass, he's safer than Dejounte tbh :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah, I'm down with moving Mills and Beli (and a first) to get Gallo. He completes the SL, and giving up the pick is more palatable when it also sheds Mills' money. I'm not okay with a DeRozan/Gallo swap in any fashion, certainly not in one where the Spurs give up DMDR AND a pick.

ideal scenario, but PATFO will never trade Patty

[CGD]

There's no reason for OKC to move Galo for two expiring, last season he was viewed as a potential all-star selection. If the asking price is a first for him, then that is a price a team is probably willing to pay for him. That team would also have his bird rights and be in pretty good position to re-sign him. Getting Sekou in that hypothetical would probably be enough to off set the loss of a 1st rounder.

I agree that OKC would need to be incentivized with a first. I just think DET should be the ones to pay it (not SAS). They’re getting the best player in the package, and the risk of Gallo walking is significant. Dude wants to go somewhere he can win now; Spurs are rebuilding and if they’re trading DDR they sure as hell aren’t overplaying for Gallo (years, $$, or both).

[cd021]

I agree that OKC would need to be incentivized with a first. I just think DET should be the ones to pay it (not SAS). They’re getting the best player in the package, and the risk of Gallo walking is significant. Dude wants to go somewhere he can win now; Spurs are rebuilding and if they’re trading DDR they sure as hell aren’t overplaying for Gallo (years, $$, or both).

It's not like the teams that will have significant cap space will sign Galo considering that all are non playoff teams and are rebuilding themselves. Don't think a team would have to overpay to keep him.

The Spurs would be getting the best haul of the three teams imo and Detroit may be unwilling to give up the 15th pick in this past draft plus another for DDR.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs gonna so overpay for this ass-hat. Book it.

[T_Carter]

Hoping to God you guys trade him before the deadline. Has been depressing watching him on this team for the last year.

[BatManu20]

I was gonna say some really nice things about DeMar after this game, especially about his 3rd quarter performance. Then he comes out and totally shuts the bed the last 5 minutes of the game.

Gotta be better in the clutch, DeMar..

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[Mugen]

Two missed FTs and airballed another key jumper. Jesus christ, please don't let his regular season BS fool the team into extending him.

[TDomination]

Two missed FTs and airballed another key jumper. Jesus christ, please don't let his regular season BS fool the team into extending him.

He is the exact opposite of Timmy, Manu, and Parker. When DDR does make a shot in the clutch, its more lucky than good. Todays game is more like how he usually is.

[MultiTroll]

Two missed FTs and airballed another key jumper. Jesus christ, please don't let his regular season BS fool the team into extending him.
I was hoping he'd hit those ft's so other teams might be snookered into accepting him in a trade.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

DDR made this a winnable game with his third quarter play. thank you based derozan

[ducks]

Gallo is definitely my target in the upcoming offseason. But no need to give up any assets when he's an expiring anyway

Counting that he signs is without trading for his is risky ask
Lakers about Paul George

[daslicer]

Spurs can win a lot of regular season games with him but like always he's not somebody they can rely on in the playoffs.

[baseline bum]

Hoping to God you guys trade him before the deadline. Has been depressing watching him on this team for the last year.

I know man, how does a guard shoot 15.6% from the three point line in 2019?

[tbdog]

I was gonna say some really nice things about DeMar after this game, especially about his 3rd quarter performance. Then he comes out and totally shuts the bed the last 5 minutes of the game.

Gotta be better in the clutch, DeMar..

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He sat on the bench for the whole 4th until Pop checked him in with 3 mins to go.

[RC_Drunkford]

Had a great game taking it to the rim, but was terrible in the 4th. At least hit one free throw so it's a 2 possession game. Does anybody know what happened to his jumper? He's worse from midrange than last season. Seems like lay ups and dunks are the only shots he's hitting

[Fireball]

last game mr. clutch but shitty for three quarters ... this game two great quarters and anti-clutch in the end

overall I am still pleased with him ... not max-pleased of course

[cjw]

Had a great game taking it to the rim, but was terrible in the 4th. At least hit one free throw so it's a 2 possession game. Does anybody know what happened to his jumper? He's worse from midrange than last season. Seems like lay ups and dunks are the only shots he's hitting

He was hitting them the rest of the game and finished the game at 78%. Just stings that the two misses came at the end with a chance to ice.

He was solid yesterday but needs to cut down on the turnovers. If anything is hurting this team, it’s that. Year after year, Pop’s teams have one of the lowest turnover ratios in the league. Hopefully reverts back to that.

[Genovaswitness]

the thing is demar will have 2 or 3 games like last night’s and then suck dick for the next 10. Do not want

[DJR210]

Isn't a free throw the easiest mid range shot in the game? Pressure made sweet love to DeMar again smh

[Harry Callahan]

I don't know about having this guy long term. Lamarcus has been really good past 30, but his game is so smooth and sound on the offensive end he has a much longer shelf life.

LMA is around for 2 more years and I think he will be able to hold up. DeRozan could fall off a cliff when his quickness and athletic ability declines a little bit.

[cd98]

Absent a catastrophic injury, DeRozan will be a good enough athlete for the next two years. You really see guys drop off around 34.

[RC_Drunkford]

He was hitting them the rest of the game and finished the game at 78%. Just stings that the two misses came at the end with a chance to ice.

He was solid yesterday but needs to cut down on the turnovers. If anything is hurting this team, it’s that. Year after year, Pop’s teams have one of the lowest turnover ratios in the league. Hopefully reverts back to that.

nah he only turned it over twice during the game. But he messed up 4-5 possessions in crunch time and wasn't able to score on Rodney Hood. His passes out of the pick & roll to Aldridge were late and he waved Belinelli off for no reason when that would've switched CJ McCollum on him. Just dumb offense.

[poopbox]

Dude is just not a good fit with murray, white, walker, or really anybody on this roster who isn't around 30 or older. Spurs need to move on. He is just getting in the way of young players.

[Prose]

demar has two types of games...
1. ass all game and then shows up in the fourth
2. good first 3 quarters then ass in the clutch.

kind of like danny "feast or famine" green...(just remember we lost danny bc of kawahi, so fuck kawahi)

[look_at_g_shred]

All of his shots need to be at the rim. He's such a different player when he's imposing his size in the post.

[exstatic]

All of his shots need to be at the rim. He's such a different player when he's imposing his size in the post.

Many of them have been this year.

[Rosewood]

Trade him for Steven Adams.

OKC is rebuilding and Steve could be our center for the next 8 years.

[FkLA]

Trade him for Steven Adams.

OKC is rebuilding and Steve could be our center for the next 8 years.

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[exstatic]

Trade him for Steven Adams.

OKC is rebuilding and Steve could be our center for the next 8 years.

Adams is a fucking dinosaur staring up at the meteor that will be his doom: today’s NBA. He got played off the floor in the playoffs.

[Rosewood]

Adams is a fucking dinosaur staring up at the meteor that will be his doom: today’s NBA. He got played off the floor in the playoffs.


What exactly has Derozan done in the playoffs? I think Steve would be great in this system.

[gambit1990]

i would trade demar for adams and diallo.

[TimDunkem]

I don't get it. Poeltl good, Adams bad dinosaur? How are they that much different other than what they're paid? I swear, PATFO fluffers overrate Spurs scrubs but everyone else is trash...Until they're Spurs. *cough* DD, LMA, Gay *cough*

[tbdog]

What exactly has Derozan done in the playoffs? I think Steve would be great in this system.

LMA is essentially the 30 min center. Poeltl can give 80% of Adams for a fraction of the cost. Adams is getting paid star money but will never sniff an allstar game. Poeltl should get more production in 2 to 3 years time than Adams will.

[Chomag]

Not saying we could trade for him but are people here really calling Adam's not a good effective player? That's nonsense ! For starters He would bring grit and an enforcer type that we seriously need.

[Collins21]

I don't get it. Poeltl good, Adams bad dinosaur? How are they that much different other than what they're paid? I swear, PATFO fluffers overrate Spurs scrubs but everyone else is trash...Until they're Spurs. *cough* DD, LMA, Gay *cough*

I can see how people can hate DeRozan I don't but I can see how other people can. However you can't tell me that if Rudy Gay was drafted by the Spurs instead of the Grizzlies he wouldn't b a better player. You talk about LaMarcus and Rudy like their bums.

[TimDunkem]

I can see how people can hate DeRozan I don't but I can see how other people can. However you can't tell me that if Rudy Gay was drafted by the Spurs instead of the Grizzlies he wouldn't b a better player. You talk about LaMarcus and Rudy like their bums.

I'm just saying literally everyone on these forums hated these guys before they were Spurs, and this hating on Adams stuff reminds me of it.

[Collins21]

I'm just saying literally everyone on these forums hated these guys before they were Spurs, and this hating on Adams stuff reminds me of it.
The only thing I will say about Adams vs Poeltl is that Poeltl is cheaper but other than that it's pretty much the same.

[lmbebo]

Adams > Poetl, but not worth the extra $10-12 million or whatever it costs to have him in this day and age.

[TimDunkem]

^Sure that's a valid criticism, but let's not pretend that Adams is some scrubby "dinosaur" while Poeltl is the best thing ever when they're practically the same player.

[gambit1990]

LMA is essentially the 30 min center. Poeltl can give 80% of Adams for a fraction of the cost. Adams is getting paid star money but will never sniff an allstar game. Poeltl should get more production in 2 to 3 years time than Adams will.
:td

poeltl isn’t adams and never will be.

[tbdog]

:td

poeltl isn’t adams and never will be.


I disagree. Poeltl is closer than you obvious think. We haven't seen Poeltl play 30mins a game because he is behind LMA. Regardless, Adams cost 25mil p/y. Poeltl would accept 8mil p/y right now.

[timvp]

Adams is a fucking dinosaur staring up at the meteor that will be his doom: today’s NBA. He got played off the floor in the playoffs.

Well said. :lol

Adams got his $100 million contract back when teams actually paid traditional centers. I'd much rather have Poeltl at $6 or $7 million or whatever he'll get this summer than taking on that prehistoric Adams contract.

[illusioNtEk]

would you guys be happy with 70mil x 3 year?

[tbdog]

would you guys be happy with 70mil x 3 year?

LMA extended 72mil/3years, which is what I want the Spurs to offer DD. But the cap has gone up a little (but could go down depending on the China issue).

[Fireball]

would you guys be happy with 70mil x 3 year?

obviously you referred to Demar but as the conversation shifted to Poeltl I was like :wow

[Coach X]

Contract-year-DeRozan looks good so far. Better defense, 3pt shooting sightings, good adaptation to the new starting unit under Murray plus only one big, clutch scoring including game winner...

Still early to calculate his value for this team. I reckon Walker, Murray and White's progression will have a lot to do with the offer PATFO puts on the table.

[SpursDynasty85]

Contract-year-DeRozan looks good so far. Better defense, 3pt shooting sightings, good adaptation to the new starting unit under Murray plus only one big, clutch scoring including game winner...

Still early to calculate his value for this team. I reckon Walker, Murray and White's progression will have a lot to do with the offer PATFO puts on the table.


I like your optimism and I agree that individually Demar seems in shape and sharp when he is aggressive and focused. I will have to disagree on being well-adapted to the starting unit. He has been way too hesitant. He needs to just go to the rim and score first. Guys are hanging off him and he is passing out of a swarm of players keying in on him. His defense has not been impressive either really.

[Coach X]

I like your optimism and I agree that individually Demar seems in shape and sharp when he is aggressive and focused. I will have to disagree on being well-adapted to the starting unit. He has been way too hesitant. He needs to just go to the rim and score first. Guys are hanging off him and he is passing out of a swarm of players keying in on him. His defense has not been impressive either really.

Regarding his defense, he's not suddenly becoming a great defender. Last season he started as a bad defender and showed the will of reaching a decent level. This season, he looks more adapted to the defensive schemes.
I see DeMar avoiding contact in screens more often than past season. In P&R defense, that allows him to chase down his man and disturb the pass to the roll or defend the floaters from behind. Being able of scaping from being catched in the pick, allows him also to go for the late switch if needed.
Probably contaged by Murray, I see him more active when he's away from the ball. DeJounte's deflections provide steal+fastbreak opportunities specially appealing for DeRozan.

Murray takes the best offensive guard from rivals but I'm intrigued about the matchups if the opponent has one or two great scorers/creators between the PG, SG,SF positions. DeMar and/or Forbes will be tested and I'm looking forward to it.

[GAustex]

obviously you referred to Demar but as the conversation shifted to Poeltl I was like :wow
Me also when I read it

[gambit1990]

sign him to a slightly more expensive deal than murray... then trade him.

[Kurgan]

Contract-year-DeRozan looks good so far. Better defense, 3pt shooting sightings, good adaptation to the new starting unit under Murray plus only one big, clutch scoring including game winner...

Still early to calculate his value for this team. I reckon Walker, Murray and White's progression will have a lot to do with the offer PATFO puts on the table.

:lol What the fuck are you talking about. He has yet to make a three this year. His three point attempts per game are even lower than last year's abysmal rate. There's no indication his three point shooting has changed at all. He's the same shitty player he was last year besides drawing more free throws. His impact is still negative overall. He will still be a cancer come playoff time too.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Don't forget him choking the other night at the line :rolleyes

This guy is a mental midget, the max would be Patty/Gasol level stupid.

[Genovaswitness]

Don't forget him choking the other night at the line :rolleyes

This guy is a mental midget, the max would be Patty/Gasol level stupid.

That retarded fucking fade away air ball he took at the end rather than run out some clock :lmao

[exstatic]

sign him to a slightly more expensive deal than murray... then trade him.

Yeah, except he won't sign that low, which may be the Spurs plan. Offer him a few million less than MAX, he opts out, and goes somewhere else.

[R. DeMurre]

Adams is a fucking dinosaur staring up at the meteor that will be his doom: today’s NBA. He got played off the floor in the playoffs.

I agree on Adams, but DeRozan isn't far behind. He didn't get played off the floor in the playoffs but did post the worst advanced stats on the team that clearly showed the Spurs were more effective with him on the bench-- and that's in a very close seven game series. In six playoff years, DeRozan has never posted a positive On Court number or a positive on court/off court number-- that's a pretty damning stat. Compare with a Ginobili or even an average player like Batum, Rudy Gay, Thaddeus Young... Being entirely in the red statistically so consistently is a rare achievement.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/derozde01.html

[marinoman]

He is the biggest nba playoff choker of all time. And until he starts shooting and making 3s I don’t even want him on the roster

[spurraider21]

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[CGD]

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Damn Charles murdered the kid

[gambit1990]

all in:
https://i.imgur.com/HZYq2iZ.png

spurs upgrade ball handling, defense, their center position. gallo would be the 6th man.

[Dancelot]

all in:
https://i.imgur.com/HZYq2iZ.png

spurs upgrade ball handling, defense, their center position. gallo would be the 6th man.

I would hang on the Keldon Johnson (even though pop isn’t gonna play him for 6 years)

[gambit1990]

Poeltl can give 80% of Adams for a fraction of the cost. Adams is getting paid star money but will never sniff an allstar game. Poeltl should get more production in 2 to 3 years time than Adams will.

The only thing I will say about Adams vs Poeltl is that Poeltl is cheaper but other than that it's pretty much the same.

I'd much rather have Poeltl at $6 or $7 million or whatever he'll get this summer than taking on that prehistoric Adams contract.
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the shortsightedness of you all overlook the fact that adams will allow for la to conserve a considerable amount of energy on the defensive side. la wants to score, not be the anchor defensively. and poeltl is no anchor.

[ZeusWillJudge]

the shortsightedness of you all overlook the fact that adams will allow for la to conserve a considerable amount of energy on the defensive side. la wants to score, not be the anchor defensively. and poeltl is no anchor.


:pop: "You've only got one job, Steven. Help LaMarcus conserve energy."

[gambit1990]

:pop: "You've only got one job, Steven. Help LaMarcus conserve energy."
adams' ability to finish at the rim speaks for itself, didn't think i'd have to mention it but here i am.

[EasyMoney]

This team would be a whole lot better of they had Steven Adams tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

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the shortsightedness of you all overlook the fact that adams will allow for la to conserve a considerable amount of energy on the defensive side. la wants to score, not be the anchor defensively. and poeltl is no anchor.

You mean the defensive anchor that Aldridge scored 56 points on?

[exstatic]

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the shortsightedness of you all overlook the fact that adams will allow for la to conserve a considerable amount of energy on the defensive side. la wants to score, not be the anchor defensively. and poeltl is no anchor.

The shortsightedness of you all overlooks the fact that the defensive "water carrier" role isn't worth $26M/yr.

[gambit1990]

This team would be a whole lot better of they had Steven Adams tbh
:tu


You mean the defensive anchor that Aldridge scored 56 points on?
la had 32 when adams got injured. adams himself had 19 on 61.5% shooting.


The shortsightedness of you all overlooks the fact that the defensive "water carrier" role isn't worth $26M/yr.
most players are overpaid. adams is a championship starting caliber center.

[ElNono]

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:lol

[gambit1990]

"He'S nOt WoRtH tHe MoNeY"

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the dude is 26 and has one more year left on his contract :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs need Gallinari way more than Adams

[mo7888]

Spurs need Gallinari way more than Adams

This × 10

[gambit1990]

Spurs need Gallinari way more than Adams
i like gallo too. that's why i included him:

all in:
https://i.imgur.com/HZYq2iZ.png

spurs upgrade ball handling, defense, their center position. gallo would be the 6th man.

[gambit1990]

okc would be the best trade partner for the spurs. they have way more than ATL, DET, ORL.

[gambit1990]

most of ST wants the spurs to make the POs / "compete"... swap ddr with cp3 and no doubt the spurs make the POs. one is a mastermind and the other is a bonehead.

ST doesn't want to pay cp3... even though the spurs won't be using that money to sign a high caliber player with.

one thing kawhi is great at is playing at his tempo. that's what cp3 is great at too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGz48cJCP-o

[BackHome]

If we still had Manu and Timmy yeah getting Cp3 sounds nice but HELL no I don’t want another old has been on this team. Let’s all face facts the good days are over we need to tank hard and fast like Golden Stare like Dallas and like how we did the year before we got Timmy.

[Prime BEEF]

If you’re going to do a trade with okc....


derozan/Mills/Marco(or Jacob) for Gallo/Adams

makes no sense to trade for CP3 when we have Murray and White

[gambit1990]

If you’re going to do a trade with okc....


derozan/Mills/Marco(or Jacob) for Gallo/Adams

makes no sense to trade for CP3 when we have Murray and White


it makes sense because murray and white aren't ready. cp3 is a master floor general.

who would you rather have the ball in the clutch: ddr or cp3?

[Kyle_Kuzma]

from kawhi to derozan to terrence ross

https://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/magic/ross-2018.png


to think y’all could have brandon ingram plus future picks

:lmao

[Chucho]

from kawhi to derozan to terrence ross

https://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/magic/ross-2018.png


to think y’all could have brandon ingram plus future picks

:lmao

LOL, you waited hella long to make sure it was safe to log into that alt :lol

[Kyle_Kuzma]

LOL, you waited hella long to make sure it was safe to log into that alt :lol
suck mah dick chucho

[Chucho]

suck mah dick chucho

:lol you're a decade late on the shit-laker-troll bonanza

:lol you're to trolls like what rubbers are to cock sucking

[RC_Drunkford]

from kawhi to derozan to terrence ross

https://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/magic/ross-2018.png


to think y’all could have brandon ingram plus future picks

:lmao


drafting Lonzo Ball when you could've had Jayson Tatum or Donovan Mitchell :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao