Derrick white

[Dhbsr555]

Looks like complete garbage

[Collins21]

Looks like complete garbage

All that garbage about him being better than Murray should be over by now.

[FkLA]

Get back to me when Instagram Baller wins us a playoff game, idiot.

but his jumpshot looks good in preseason :cry

[Degoat]

Leave it to ST to make a big deal about a preseason game lol

[Genovaswitness]

lol not even televised and I knew it was gonna play out like this. fivehead motherfucker is shook coming into the season :lmao

[Babyboy]

Get back to me when Instagram Baller wins us a playoff game, idiot.

but his jumpshot looks good in preseason :cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KzdI77qJq4

[apalisoc_9]

problem with derrick is a limited moveset and hes not an elite athlete.

But he reads the game so much better than Murray..But Murray has so much more potential since he is a significantly better ahtlete

[TimDunkem]

His ceiling is Delonte West with a brain.

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KzdI77qJq4

He won that game for the Spurs? :lol

IIRC he had to bring up the ball up the court with his ass turned towards the defender because Beverly kept picking his pocket. :lol

[Babyboy]

He won that game for the Spurs? :lol

IIRC he had to bring up the ball up the court with his ass turned towards the defender because Beverly kept picking his pocket. :lol
that was a previous game in the series, this is the one where he locked down Harden

[Genovaswitness]

He won that game for the Spurs? :lol

IIRC he had to bring up the ball up the court with his ass turned towards the defender because Beverly kept picking his pocket. :lol

I expect doubling down like this all year.

[J_Paco]

that was a previous game in the series, this is the one where he locked down Harden

Let the idiot go with his narrative.

[FkLA]

that was a previous game in the series, this is the one where he locked down Harden

:lmao

Green guarded Harden fool. IB played like 20 minutes that game.

[timtonymanu]

OP is a faggot.

[timtonymanu]

All that garbage about him being better than Murray should be over by now.

Preseason game, you dense faggot. Pop is just experimenting with lineups and of course Murray would be motivated after missing the entire last season. He’s got more to prove while Derrick is more established right now. Bring this shit up if white looks bad the entire year.

[BD24]

I expect doubling down like this all year.
This is the same faggot that said Doncic sucked tbh. I would take his player analysis with a grain of salt

[timtonymanu]

Murray could become a better player than White over time but lol @ the premature Derrick White sucks talk based on a preseason game.

[Play Boban]

Get back to me when Instagram Baller wins us a playoff game, idiot.

but his jumpshot looks good in preseason :cry
I hate Instagram Balla as much as anyone, but White was garbage in the playoffs last year too tbh....our “promising” backcourt is a bunch of scrubs per par.

[FkLA]

I hate Instagram Balla as much as anyone, but White was garbage in the playoffs last year too tbh....our “promising” backcourt is a bunch of scrubs per par.

15/3/3 on 55% shooting in what was essentially his rookie year is garbage? The IB fans are going crazy bc their guy put up those numbers in one game, in preseason. :lol

[Yogatti]

MVWhite will bounce back. :ihit I believe in him

[ismael-robert]

Since white IS more established n played fiba ball you'd expect him to dominate this preseason game not go 1 for 9. Murray hasnt had real comp in a year n came out looking like the one with experience

[RC_Drunkford]

problem with derrick is a limited moveset and hes not an elite athlete.

But he reads the game so much better than Murray..But Murray has so much more potential since he is a significantly better ahtlete

yet people always say Derrick is sneaky athletic and was one of the best athletes at the draft combine. To me he still looks slow when driving to the rim. Got blocked a lot on drives to the hoop last year

[apalisoc_9]

yet people always say Derrick is sneaky athletic and was one of the best athletes at the draft combine. To me he still looks slow when driving to the rim. Got blocked a lot on drives to the hoop last year

sneaky athele = above average.

his limited movesets kinda makes it a must for him to be elite atheleticlly but he is not

[Play Boban]

15/3/3 on 55% shooting in what was essentially his rookie year is garbage? The IB fans are going crazy bc their guy put up those numbers in one game, in preseason. :lol
Game 7 though tbqh.

[KobesAchilles]

Game 7 though tbqh.
He played as well as the 50 million dollar man that game. That’s all you can ask. Still waiting for Instagram Baller to win us a playoff game tbh. Dude seems to only play well in the preseason

[phxspurfan]

Needs some more consistency / mental toughness to develop into his ceiling, Andre Miller, IMO

[SpurPadre]

Murray could become a better player than White over time but lol @ the premature Derrick White sucks talk based on a preseason game.

Could? He simply IS better than White but that doesn't mean we can't like both of them. I'm not goint to root against either one. I want them both to succeed but Murray clearly is the better player, IMO.

[Slippy]

Too funny , there would of been one guy out there trying to impress while most of last season's team be like it's just a warm up game.

[FkLA]

Could? He simply IS better than White but that doesn't mean we can't like both of them. I'm not goint to root against either one. I want them both to succeed but Murray clearly is the better player, IMO.

shut up faggot

[Down Under]

So this is the new Manu v TP debate for the next decade?

[Beartrucci]

So this is the new Manu v TP debate for the next decade?

If FkLA has his way yes

Wasn’t he big on the Manu vs. TP thing too? :lol

[Pavlov]

He played as well as the 50 million dollar man that game. That’s all you can ask.:lmao no it's not

[Play Boban]

He played as well as the 50 million dollar man that game. That’s all you can ask. Still waiting for Instagram Baller to win us a playoff game tbh. Dude seems to only play well in the preseason
Instagram Baller makes me sick tbh. I would cut him if it were up to me, but PATFO doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to do that per par smh tbh.

[Play Boban]

Could? He simply IS better than White but that doesn't mean we can't like both of them. I'm not goint to root against either one. I want them both to succeed but Murray clearly is the better player, IMO.
If he’s better, why wasn’t Instagram Baller on Team USA tbh?

[8FOR!3]

Is this gonna be like Parker/Ginobili where you have to choose a favorite? sheesh.

White is a good player, Murray is a good player. They will both have a rough game every once in a while lol. They have also both proven that they can play. The only jury out right now is how Murray will look coming off his injury and if he's made improvements to his game but regardless he's not a bad player and neither is White.

[Dex]

Is this gonna be like Parker/Ginobili where you have to choose a favorite? sheesh.

White is a good player, Murray is a good player. They will both have a rough game every once in a while lol. They have also both proven that they can play. The only jury out right now is how Murray will look coming off his injury and if he's made improvements to his game but regardless he's not a bad player and neither is White.

Nope, you can only like one player and really, its just Pop and the stupid Spurs holding that player back from being the next Jordan.

[Down Under]

If FkLA has his way yes

Wasn’t he big on the Manu vs. TP thing too? :lol
Ugh God. White's understanding, decision making & ability to move quickly in tight spaces is awesome & he will be a star when he learns to assert himself. Murray is a better athlete & you can see how he's tightened his handles & his J has improved. They're both going to be awesome.

[timtonymanu]

shut up faggot

:lol

[Slippy]

Manu and Tony were proven.

DW IS proven. his selection to the US team is proof. DJ IS unproven with a big question mark on how he responds to a major injury this season.

There is no debate yet tbh.

[SpurPadre]

If he’s better, why wasn’t Instagram Baller on Team USA tbh?

Still recovering. And White was towel waiving most games, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

If he’s better, why wasn’t Instagram Baller on Team USA tbh?

Still recovering. And White was towel waiving most games, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

:lol

Oooh, yeah, I sure was told off by a kid. How can I recover? :rolleyes

[timtonymanu]

Oooh, yeah, I sure was told off by a kid. How can I recover? :rolleyes

SpurPadre: I'm not gonna root against White, but let me keep bringing up that he choked in Game 7 (so did Manu in the 2013 finals but let's keep acting like White is the only person to disappear in a playoff game). And that White was towel waving during FIBA.

FkLA and I just don't buy your bullshit, tbh.

[timtonymanu]

For White, it's his 2nd real year in the league...and he managed to make the USA National Team. If that's not a shot in the arm, I don't know what is.

As for last year's playoffs, Derrick started off hot but once the defense keyed in on him...he disappeared. We can debate until the cows come home whether that was the right decision, but my opinion is that he got passive the last couple games and kinda deserved the hook. (And yes, Mills wasn't a great alternative, but there are only so many players on the bench)

As for DJ, he has a lot to prove and he has talked a lot of talk. He has to prove that he can walk the walk...but he also deserves that chance.

BTW Murray only played 14 minutes (all in the first half), and 7 of his 11 points came on jump shots including one from deep. So maybe that jumper will start working for him.

Now this is a legitimate take I can respect from another thread

[SpurPadre]

SpurPadre: I'm not gonna root against White, but let me keep bringing up that he choked in Game 7 (so did Manu in the 2013 finals but let's keep acting like White is the only person to disappear in a playoff game). And that White was towel waving during FIBA.

FkLA and I just don't buy your bullshit, tbh.

Bullshit? Stating facts when it needs to be called upon, tbh. Tough love is better than pure dick sucking while name calling the other guy who plays on the same team. Also, Manu was a made man and surefire HOF when he fucked up in the 13 Finals, in which all of us called him out on.

[timtonymanu]

Bullshit? Stating facts when it needs to be called upon, tbh. Tough love is better than pure dick sucking while name calling the other guy who plays on the same team. Also, Manu was a made man and surefire HOF when he fucked up in the 13 Finals, in which all of us called him out on.

Typical Padre talking out of his ass. Sometimes, it's hard to take you seriously as a poster but let me humor you more. You proved my point further. Even the best of players choke in big moments and from what I remember, people on here called out White for his Game 7 performance, but you always take it to a stupid route whenever people hype him up (player fans will be player fans, tbh, but most people on here had reasonable opinions of White all of last season) and you always say "well he choked Game 7, but let me hype up Murray unreasonably also."

I say bullshit cause you're a hypocrite, tbh. I'm gonna need more than "I think Murray is better because I say so, and White is garbage. :cry But i promise I'm still rooting for him," that BS you constantly spew to take your "opinion" seriously. As i said earlier, Dex summed it up best without looking like a jackass.

[SpurPadre]

Typical Padre talking out of his ass. Sometimes, it's hard to take you seriously as a poster but let me humor you more. You proved my point further. Even the best of players choke in big moments and from what I remember, people on here called out White for his Game 7 performance, but you always take it to a stupid route whenever people hype him up (player fans will be player fans, tbh, but most people on here had reasonable opinions of White all of last season) and you always say "well he choked Game 7, but let me hype up Murray unreasonably also."

I say bullshit cause you're a hypocrite, tbh. I'm gonna need more than "I think Murray is better because I say so, and White is garbage. :cry But i promise I'm still rooting for him," that BS you constantly spew to take your "opinion" seriously. As i said earlier, Dex summed it up best without looking like a jackass.

I feel the same way about you. You cherry pick to fit your narrative. We're just gonna keep going round and round with this but I legitimately want to see both players thrive while acknowledging that one may be better than the other. Do you have that capacity instead of using the straw man and ad hominem approaches?

[timtonymanu]

I feel the same way about you. You cherry pick to fit your narrative. We're just gonna keep going round and round with this but I legitimately want to see both players thrive while acknowledging that one may be better than the other. Do you have that capacity instead of using the straw man and ad hominem approaches?

I clearly said in this thread that Murray could be better than White and you chime in with "no it's a fact." You and your agenda per usual. So yeah, with you I don't have that capacity cause you don't give reasonable arguments other than arrogantly stating your opinion about the situation and try to dial back with "but I'm rooting for him to succeed here." There will be the White vs. Murray debate as long as both are Spurs. I can admit both players have their shortcomings but also their strengths and props to Murray for working on his jumpshot which was his biggest weakness coming into the league. I don't honestly favor one over the other. I just call out the hypocrisy for what it is with you.

[r0drig0lac]

Nope, you can only like one player and really, its just Pop and the stupid Spurs holding that player back from being the next Jordan.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I hope that Murray turns out to be way better than White. And I hope that Walker IV is even better still. I want as much talent on the Spurs as possible. I think there is a chance that the Spurs end up with the best guard rotation in the NBA: Murray, White, Walker, and Forbes. It's a team game.

[picnroll]

I wonder if White having taken such a back seat passive role on team USA hasn’t been detrimental and hurt his confidence. Not sure playing for them has ultimately been beneficial.

[NameLess Scrub]

I didn't believe in White until he proved me wrong, and I hadn't watched him get his pocket picked in consecutive possessions or shoot like he doesn't know how to like I've seen Murray.

I'll consider White the better basketball player and Murray the best pure athlete until I see Murray prove otherwise in real games.

And I'll of course hope both of them turned out great.

[Collins21]

I didn't believe in White until he proved me wrong, and I hadn't watched him get his pocket picked in consecutive possessions or shoot like he doesn't know how to like I've seen Murray.

I'll consider White the better basketball player and Murray the best pure athlete until I see Murray prove otherwise in real games.

And I'll of course hope both of them turned out great.

Tha stuff you mentioned about Murray happened three years ago!! When he played his last healthy season he wasn't getting his pocket picked. Shooting yes that was a concern coming into this season but the whole ball security thing hasn't been an issue since his rookie year.

[NameLess Scrub]

Tha stuff you mentioned about Murray happened three years ago!! When he played his last healthy season he wasn't getting his pocket picked. Shooting yes that was a concern coming into this season but the whole ball security thing hasn't been an issue since his rookie year.

You're probably right, but I still haven't forgotten :lol

The thing here is that he's a PG, and his shooting was so bad I wondered who taught him how to shoot. He also seemed promising but not as a PG to me.

In any case I'll be happy to see him improve. Really looking forward to see what he's got in actual season games.

[acoelho1]

The problem with White is when things don't go his way, he hasn't shown the mental toughness to fight through it. His physical skills are very good but he needs to work on his mental makeup, which I'm not sure you can improve that aspect.

[Play Boban]

Still recovering. And White was towel waiving most games, tbh.

White was an affirmative action addition to Team USA tbh

[Larry O]

In my humble opinion, I don't think that DW4 has had the opportunity over the summer to really concentrate on working on needed aspects of his game such as his shooting, etc., due to his commitment with FIBA. Although he was playing basketball, it was all centered on team practice, game preparations & shoot-a-rounds. In some ways, the FIBA experience may have had some benefits to it, ie: playing organized team basketball, etc., but I think that if he would have spent more time this summer to hone in on his shooting, etc., we may be seeing an improved White this season.

[Yogatti]

If things don't work out Derrick White is welcome to join the Clippers. Come home, brother:tu

He's from LA right? :lol

[KDKSpurs24]

In my humble opinion, I don't think that DW4 has had the opportunity over the summer to really concentrate on working on needed aspects of his game such as his shooting, etc., due to his commitment with FIBA. Although he was playing basketball, it was all centered on team practice, game preparations & shoot-a-rounds. In some ways, the FIBA experience may have had some benefits to it, ie: playing organized team basketball, etc., but I think that if he would have spent more time this summer to hone in on his shooting, etc., we may be seeing an improved White this season.
Before I say this I’m not coming at your opinion but more like adding to this statement:

If this is truly the case for DWhite then it can be said that’s it’s hard to bash the players who dropped out. Maybe they felt they couldn’t improve the way they wanted to this summer if they were confined to the team.

[FkLA]

The problem with White is when things don't go his way, he hasn't shown the mental toughness to fight through it. His physical skills are very good but he needs to work on his mental makeup, which I'm not sure you can improve that aspect.

Of course that can improve, dipshit.

But it's harder to improve that when you get benched for an inferior player in a Game 7, demoted for an unproven guy, and get no respect from refs, media, or casual fans. He is arguably the most slept on player in the league, tbh.

[FkLA]

The dude is at his best when he knows he belongs. Look at last year with IB out, or when he was still on the Select Team, or the GLeague. Which is why its annoying that even his own damn team and fans do/say things that could affect his confidence.

He'll take what's his eventually but noone seems to be helping him along the way.

[SAGirl]

yet people always say Derrick is sneaky athletic and was one of the best athletes at the draft combine. To me he still looks slow when driving to the rim. Got blocked a lot on drives to the hoop last year
I think that has to do with his first step... basically he may be a great athlete overall but not elite on that first step and thus cannot get separation, specially if his jumpshot isn't falling and they play off him a little. I have to say I do expect him to look better and get over this slow start.

His role may be changing and he maybe has trouble adapting. I am not really sure about FkLA raising the "confidence" issues and I hope it's just a streaky shooting spell. He needs his jumpshot to be respected to create some space for himself other ways too.

I am a Murray fan, but I appreciate White as well... I don't really get all this player fan hating on players in the same team. I suppose there are some trolls, but for other fans it simply keeps things interesting to have this competition. For me, I want White to snap out of it. Team needs him to play well. Others too, but since this is about DWhite... I hope he shits on some of his haters.

[SAGirl]

The problem with White is when things don't go his way, he hasn't shown the mental toughness to fight through it. His physical skills are very good but he needs to work on his mental makeup, which I'm not sure you can improve that aspect.
things like that definitely reflect on shooters. It affected Forbes, he needed a lot of trust from the coach even when he didn't look all that good his first couple of years to build his confidence. Some shooters like Davis Bertans have said that he always thinks his shots go in and if he misses a lot early in the game it only increases the odds of him catching fire. I am not sure Derrick has that mamba mentality, nor that it is encouraged, but bench players need to be impactful right away. They don't have a lot of minutes to settle into a game and go with the flow to speak. This is all from comments I have seen over the years from Manu and other bench leaders. He may be struggling in a new role. I hope he snaps out of it.

[venitian navigator]

A lot of people thinks White has to be a sort of Manu in a Manu role from the bench...imho he is best suited for a starting role while DJM is better suited for a bench role a la Manu.
White is obviously the better play maker and team player. He makes LMA better giving him the ball in the right time and in the right places. Still shoots better than DJM (not in these last days) and can defend. On the opposite, DJm can give the team exactly what Manu gave in his days...energy, Hustle, Defense and change of pace. He's also better suited for playing with players better suited for a role from the bench (small guards like Mills or Forbes).
Imho patfo is also making a big mistake these days...just for let DJM feel more confortable.
White deserved the starting role for what he did last year...and DJM was best suited for a big role from the bench after a full year out.
Also, after we gave away Bertans (another big mistake, because of the best four 3 point shooters we had, aka Beli, Forbes, Mills and Him, he was the one with most future potential as an important nba player), its definitevely time to se if our other big project (Walker) is or not the player he was supposed to be...at the point that last year he was projected to play a big amount of minutes just before his injury.

imho the startin line up should be White - Walker - DDR - x (Carroll? Lyles?) - LMA
bench DJM - Forbes (Mills/QW) - Belli (KJ) Gay Poeltl

[monty4329]

Of course that can improve, dipshit.

But it's harder to improve that when you get benched for an inferior player in a Game 7, demoted for an unproven guy, and get no respect from refs, media, or casual fans. He is arguably the most slept on player in the league, tbh.

Right on point.

Although I am not sure the game-7 benching wasn't beneficial to him. We would have probably lost anyway (well, he could have been guarding Murray, that's true...) and he would have been pointed at as the culprit. Nevertheless, he earned the starting spot to open the season.