View Full Version : Democratic Leaders Get A Backbone (3 Years Late)
Nbadan
11-01-2005, 02:51 PM
Sen. Ried gets Closed Senate Session...Happening Now!!
They are calling for a "Phase II" investigation on the misinformation and deception of the Administration for going to war!
Currently unraveling on C-SPAN2 (http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2)
boutons
11-01-2005, 03:01 PM
Libby's trial will pit Libby's personal skin-saving and legal rights against the shrub/dickhead's need to keep their war lies secret. Will Libby bend over and take it up the ass to save the administration, or will he take others with him.
And I'm sure the 9/11 commission didn't really get into all the incompetence and mal-governance in the months before 9/11.
Marcus Bryant
11-01-2005, 03:24 PM
What a stunt. Of course, this could piss off the Senate GOP enough that they might bring the nuclear option to the floor and then the Dems can take Bush's judicial nominees up the ass for the remainder of his presidency.
Good work, Reid.
xrayzebra
11-01-2005, 03:46 PM
Well Dan and bountons, your bunch is still doing the same old crap and you are right there wiping their rearends. Old buoutons still cant post anything without using all the "right" words. As usual it is the same old BS. Don't you Libs (socialist) ever get tired of wrong. Hell, you thought you had Bush how many times. And again with the most wonderful Wilson couple you thought you had him again. You know like old song: Happy Days Are Here Again. You poor pathetic, silly people.
Extra Stout
11-01-2005, 04:40 PM
Don't underestimate Harry Reid. His political wiles far exceed those of his predecessor (Daschle), or of his colleague in the House (Pelosi).
His actions are not a sign of weakness.
Vashner
11-01-2005, 07:34 PM
They need penis implants to.. to do with the backbone that's about to be smacked down.
Yonivore
11-01-2005, 07:38 PM
His actions are not a sign of weakness.
No, just desperation.
I was shocked to see ABC even admit it. Leading into their story about the Reid stunt, they said as much...something to the effect of, "disappointed over the Libby indictment story fading, Senate democrats tried to breath life into it..." or something like that.
SA210
11-02-2005, 12:18 AM
Something needs to be done about the lies this administration has usd for us to go to war. Good going.
Vashner
11-02-2005, 12:26 AM
Something needs to be done about the lies the clinton administration used with WMD's for bombing Iraq (an act of war). Good going.
Edit: It was called "Operation Desert Fox" and Clinton wanted to reduce his WMD abilities.
Now anytime a leader of a country orders a bomber to drop bombs that is an act of war. Clinton has blood on his hands too..
SA210
11-02-2005, 12:59 AM
Something needs to be done about the lies this administration has usd for us to go to war. Good going.
gtownspur
11-02-2005, 02:02 AM
Don't underestimate Harry Reid. His political wiles far exceed those of his predecessor (Daschle), or of his colleague in the House (Pelosi).
His actions are not a sign of weakness.
Name one thing he has accomplished?
If there's one group the conservatives worry about it's not Harry Reid or the leadership of the Democrat party. ITs the gang of 14 who is the fork in the plans.
Harry reid and the DnC were shamed by the Roberts hearings on their view of the constitution.
Sometimes i worry about you ES. You seem of the type that reads an anti administration editorial on the NYT, an MSNBC primetime show and gets easily spooked about the future of conservatism.
Nbadan
11-02-2005, 02:53 AM
What a stunt. Of course, this could piss off the Senate GOP enough that they might bring the nuclear option to the floor and then the Dems can take Bush's judicial nominees up the ass for the remainder of his presidency.
Good work, Reid.
Actually, a stunt is something that does not follow the Senate rules, and this move by Harry Reid follows Senate rules, and the Democrats can do it everyday if need be until Senator Roberts stops intentionally delaying the Level 2 Federal investigation into the administration's intelligence failures regarding Saddam Hussien, Iraq and WMD's. Not even the nuclear option, which I think is a bunch of bunk anyway, can change what Reid is doing.
Marcus Bryant
11-02-2005, 02:58 AM
Actually a political stunt can use Senate rules.
Nbadan
11-02-2005, 03:00 AM
Actually a political stunt can use Senate rules.
Argue symantics all you want, but the fact remains that not even the nuclear option can stop Democratic Senators from bringing Senate business to a virtual stand-still if that is their desire.
Marcus Bryant
11-02-2005, 03:04 AM
eh, not really.
Extra Stout
11-02-2005, 08:53 AM
Sometimes i worry about you ES. You seem of the type that reads an anti administration editorial on the NYT, an MSNBC primetime show and gets easily spooked about the future of conservatism.
You simply lack the intellectual capacity to understand my point of view. To me, conservatism is more than waving pom-poms whenever Republican politicans do something.
Besides, I'm not an ideologue anyway. I try to temper it with some pragmatism.
And though I don't agree with Harry Reid's view of things, I've long held that he's one of the few guys who can rile up his base on the one hand, and still keep enough cards in his hand to cut backroom deals with Republicans.
He's not impotent like Daschle. Don't turn your back on Reid.
xrayzebra
11-02-2005, 10:09 AM
And though I don't agree with Harry Reid's view of things, I've long held that he's one of the few guys who can rile up his base on the one hand, and still keep enough cards in his hand to cut backroom deals with Republicans.
He's not impotent like Daschle. Don't turn your back on Reid.
Reid did something that wasn't and wont be taken lightly by all Senators. He violated protocol. It will cost him dearly in days to come.
SA210
11-02-2005, 10:45 AM
What this admisistration has done has been costing the american people dearly.
xrayzebra
11-02-2005, 03:14 PM
What this admisistration has done has been costing the american people dearly.
Like what Clinton did, didn't? Want to compare notes?
gtownspur
11-03-2005, 12:08 AM
You simply lack the intellectual capacity to understand my point of view. To me, conservatism is more than waving pom-poms whenever Republican politicans do something.
Besides, I'm not an ideologue anyway. I try to temper it with some pragmatism.
And though I don't agree with Harry Reid's view of things, I've long held that he's one of the few guys who can rile up his base on the one hand, and still keep enough cards in his hand to cut backroom deals with Republicans.
He's not impotent like Daschle. Don't turn your back on Reid.
I dont like the pres on border issues and govt spending. Attacking the president though is the easiest thing to do in this forum. iF you think its virtous to do so, that your so enlightened, then by all means go on in your condescending ways.
Harry Reid is not riling the base. IT is Cindy sheehan, Howard dean, the anti war movement and Ted kennedy as well Schumer. Harry reid could not draw the media like daschle. Daschle was targeted by the conservative movement for extinction. Harry reid is just a brick on the wall. but ofcourse i'm just an idealogue pointing out the obvious.
SA210
11-04-2005, 12:19 AM
Like what Clinton did, didn't? Want to compare notes?
Oh yea, Clinton did get that blowjob yall can't get over. My bad, you're right. we are suffering so bad right now because of that. Ol' Bill , can't keep that peepee in his pants. :rolleyes
RandomGuy
11-07-2005, 08:47 AM
Hell, you thought you had Bush how many times.
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
The summary of these polls all basically say that the American public thinks Bush is doing a bad job.
The truth has finally started to pierce the right-wing media's message.
The goose-stepping stormtroopers of the right wing attack machine can't save him now. Maybe Ann Coulter could write a new book...
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/liberals.jpg
yes I hope democrats investigate it all....
The sole point of the non-findings of the Fitzgerald non-investigation, into the non-commission of non-crimes and the non-outing of a non-covert CIA bureaucrat, is (as Messrs. Kerry, Krugman, Rich, and others keep reminding us) that it might even yet trigger the long-awaited inquest into the Iraq intervention. I very strongly hope that there is a full-dress post-mortem into this country's Iraq policy, though I am not ready to assume that "inquest" or "post-mortem" are the correct terms for it. Let's just say a serious blue-ribbon, bipartisan, full-out inquiry. This inquiry, however, could hardly be confined—as Kerry, Krugman, and Rich so obviously hope—to the years 2001-05.
At the very minimum, the starting point of such a retrospective should be the decision, in 1991, to confirm Saddam Hussein in power after his expulsion from Kuwait and to keep his population under international sanctions. Another place to begin might be the apparent "green light," given by the Carter administration, for Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran. Real specialists and buffs might wish to start with the role of the CIA in the 1960s military coup—or coups—that brought the Baath Party to power in Baghdad in the first place...
dam kennedy and johnson...
1963: Qasim's government is overthrown in a coup bringing the Arab nationalist Ba'ath party to power. They favour the joining together of Iraq, Egypt and Syria in one Arab nation. In the same year, the Ba'ath also come to power in Syria, although the Syrian and Iraqi parties subsequently split.
The Ba'ath strengthen links with the U.S. During the coup, demonstrators are mown down by tanks, initiating a period of ruthless persecution. Up to 10,000 people are imprisoned, many are tortured. The CIA supply intelligence to the Ba'athists on communists and radicals to be rounded up. In addition to the 149 officially executed, about 5,000 are killed in the terror, many buried alive in mass graves. The new government continues the war on the Kurds, bombarding them with tanks, artillery and from the air, and bulldozing villages.
Yonivore
11-07-2005, 02:45 PM
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
The summary of these polls all basically say that the American public thinks Bush is doing a bad job.
So, you base your understanding of the legitimacy or illegitimacy of a policy on polls? Thank God we don't have someone like you for President. Then again, we did for 8 years.
The truth has finally started to pierce the right-wing media's message.
Or the left's propaganda has found some footage. But, that's quickly dissipating. Seriously, who on the left - who opposed the war in Iraq - has a shred of credibility left?
The goose-stepping stormtroopers of the right wing attack machine can't save him now. Maybe Ann Coulter could write a new book...
He doesn't need saving. He's going to be President until January 20th, 2009 and he's going to pursue the right and just path until then. There's nothing you can do about it but make "background noise."
I hope Ann does write another book. She's entertaining...
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/liberals.jpg
Cute. So, get your "L" already.
Ocotillo
11-07-2005, 02:53 PM
What a stunt. Of course, this could piss off the Senate GOP enough that they might bring the nuclear option to the floor and then the Dems can take Bush's judicial nominees up the ass for the remainder of his presidency.Good work, Reid.
That pre-supposes that the Repubs hold the Senate in '06.
Marcus Bryant
11-07-2005, 02:54 PM
...as well as that a vote to overturn said option could pass, regardless of who is in charge.
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