So this time Pop has nothing to say?

[monty4329]

This China thing is big.

The NBA is basically subscribing to Chinese Communist Party dictating American freedom of speech laws.

And Pop has nothing to say?
He is always very happy to criticize the government and the President. Meantime Kerr stutters some sorry-ass excuse not to comment...

Got to love the progressive NBA.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

China owns us and the NBA by the balls not even Pop or Kerr would cross that line, chinese overlords would banish them

[Chinook]

Yeah. Pop has to be worried about the whole world as much as the country he lives and pays taxes in.

Get out of here with this shit. Of all people, Trumpers shouldn't be the ones worried about other nations.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

pop tends to give his straight opinion on non-basketball stuff when a reporter axes him about it. (or when he’s trying to deflect after a poor team performance). give him time

[kobyz]

every leftwinger activist is an hypocrite!

[monty4329]

Yeah. Pop has to be worried about the whole world as much as the country he lives and pays taxes in.

Get out of here with this shit. Of all people, Trumpers shouldn't be the ones worried about other nations.

You don't seem to understand that Morey is an american citizen, expressing his view -BTW a quite banal view than any 5 y.o. American child can agree upon.
The Chinese Communist party exercised censorship IN America, not in China. I guess you like it that way.

[Genovaswitness]

Wish the NBA was this apolitical all the time tbh

:lmao fucking idiot morey Twitter activism about to cost his team and the league hundreds of billions of dollars

:lmao fat fuck stat nerd

:lmao what are the advanced stats for this situation :lmao

[spurraider21]

You don't seem to understand that Morey is an american citizen, expressing his view -BTW a quite banal view than any 5 y.o. American child can agree upon.
The Chinese Communist party exercised censorship IN America, not in China. I guess you like it that way.
daryl morey isn't being prosecuted for his comments. that's freedom of speech. if the NBA wants to prioritize its bottom line, it can do that. freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequence

[EasyMoney]

Has a member of media ask him publicly yet?

[Pavlov]

Another ragethread posted from Chinese equipment.

[BackHome]

Has a member of media ask him publicly yet?

No I don’t think the team made him available to press - Walker and Mills were asked and they both stuck to talking points.

[Philthemage]

I'm a Spurs fan from Hong Kong and usually read more than I post.

We have been protesting since early June against the extradition bill. The initial message wasn't even for independence, but simply objection to a law which would have severely encroach on our civil liberties. There was a weekend where two million people came out for a peaceful march which was ignored by the government.

What started off as peaceful protests were met with violent clashes with the police trying to suppress the message. While I don't condone the violence, I see how the government pushes these protestors to this point with the police instigating the situation with the generous use of tear gas and pepper spray. Keep in mind these are almost all high school and university students in the forefront who are getting beaten and arrested. It's terrifying seeing the city become the police authoritarian state which the western world fears.

I respect Morey for speaking up, but it's just a shame he took it down right away. As a resident of Hong Kong we would love to see the NBA take a firm stance on what they believe in, free speech without a fear of repercussions. If they can allow for players to speak about black lives matter openly, the same should be done for supporting Hong Kong without the fear of the Chinese Communist party pulling the plug. It's definitely difficult to swallow the fact that money speaks louder than morals and principles.

[Joseph Kony]

Some of you dummies really need to learn what free speech / the first amendment is. the american government cannot infringe upon your free speech. you can however face repercussions at your job for voicing an opinion contrary to that of a highly valuable business partner. not that hard to understand.

[Proxy]

Blizzard did something similar today too, sucks to see tbh

[cd98]

Yeah. Pop has to be worried about the whole world as much as the country he lives and pays taxes in.

Get out of here with this shit. Of all people, Trumpers shouldn't be the ones worried about other nations.

I disagree. Pop frames things in terms of right and wrong, not USA vs. Foreign Country. In a world where we are all interconnected, he should be consistent in his truth telling. Now, I think we can't assume that he will say nothing, if given the opportunity. Maybe he'll say something in the near future. But if he doesn't, then any progressive Spurs fan should be a little disappointed. It's not hard to bad mouth Trump to a fawning media that is going to put you on their shoulders and parade you around as hero. It's hard to truth tell when you would suffer some detriment. China would respond to Pop criticizing their human rights violations. But if you are a truth teller and right and wrong is the highest priority, then Pop should speak out the most against China, if in fact he is a truth teller. If not, then he's just a joe-shmo giving his biased opinion of politics in a painless forum.

[spurraider21]

Another ragethread posted from Chinese equipment.
should we not criticize the US government if we ever bought a product made in the US? i dont understand this

[Genovaswitness]

I disagree. Pop frames things in terms of right and wrong, not USA vs. Foreign Country. In a world where we are all interconnected, he should be consistent in his truth telling. Now, I think we can't assume that he will say nothing, if given the opportunity. Maybe he'll say something in the near future. But if he doesn't, then any progressive Spurs fan should be a little disappointed. It's not hard to bad mouth Trump to a fawning media that is going to put you on their shoulders and parade you around as hero. It's hard to truth tell when you would suffer some detriment. China would respond to Pop criticizing their human rights violations. But if you are a truth teller and right and wrong is the highest priority, then Pop should speak out the most against China, if in fact he is a truth teller. If not, then he's just a joe-shmo giving his biased opinion of politics in a painless forum.

“progressive” spurs fans smdh. shut up and dribble

[elbamba1]

I don't know why anyone cares what Pop thinks about Trump, China, or any other political issue. I just hope the Spurs are good this year.

[BWS-1994]

*in before the lock?


I'm a Spurs fan from Hong Kong and usually read more than I post.

We have been protesting since early June against the extradition bill. The initial message wasn't even for independence, but simply objection to a law which would have severely encroach on our civil liberties. There was a weekend where two million people came out for a peaceful march which was ignored by the government.

What started off as peaceful protests were met with violent clashes with the police trying to suppress the message. While I don't condone the violence, I see how the government pushes these protestors to this point with the police instigating the situation with the generous use of tear gas and pepper spray. Keep in mind these are almost all high school and university students in the forefront who are getting beaten and arrested. It's terrifying seeing the city become the police authoritarian state which the western world fears.

I respect Morey for speaking up, but it's just a shame he took it down right away. As a resident of Hong Kong we would love to see the NBA take a firm stance on what they believe in, free speech without a fear of repercussions. If they can allow for players to speak about black lives matter openly, the same should be done for supporting Hong Kong without the fear of the Chinese Communist party pulling the plug. It's definitely difficult to swallow the fact that money speaks louder than morals and principles.

Adam Silver released a statement in a press con in Japan.

Looks like the CCP disagreed. All NBA pre season games will no longer be televised, if I’m not mistaken.

[monty4329]

I disagree. Pop frames things in terms of right and wrong, not USA vs. Foreign Country. In a world where we are all interconnected, he should be consistent in his truth telling. Now, I think we can't assume that he will say nothing, if given the opportunity. Maybe he'll say something in the near future. But if he doesn't, then any progressive Spurs fan should be a little disappointed. It's not hard to bad mouth Trump to a fawning media that is going to put you on their shoulders and parade you around as hero. It's hard to truth tell when you would suffer some detriment. China would respond to Pop criticizing their human rights violations. But if you are a truth teller and right and wrong is the highest priority, then Pop should speak out the most against China, if in fact he is a truth teller. If not, then he's just a joe-shmo giving his biased opinion of politics in a painless forum.

+1

[BWS-1994]

Blizzard did something similar today too, sucks to see tbh

Adam Silver’s recent statement was not received well by China. I wonder if Blizzard would do something similar?

[Play Boban]

The NBA hates America and is in bed with China. Confirmed.

[RD2191]

As we all type on our Chinese made phones and computers. :lol fuck outta here

[MVPCues]

I'm a Spurs fan from Hong Kong and usually read more than I post.

We have been protesting since early June against the extradition bill. The initial message wasn't even for independence, but simply objection to a law which would have severely encroach on our civil liberties. There was a weekend where two million people came out for a peaceful march which was ignored by the government.

What started off as peaceful protests were met with violent clashes with the police trying to suppress the message. While I don't condone the violence, I see how the government pushes these protestors to this point with the police instigating the situation with the generous use of tear gas and pepper spray. Keep in mind these are almost all high school and university students in the forefront who are getting beaten and arrested. It's terrifying seeing the city become the police authoritarian state which the western world fears.

I respect Morey for speaking up, but it's just a shame he took it down right away. As a resident of Hong Kong we would love to see the NBA take a firm stance on what they believe in, free speech without a fear of repercussions. If they can allow for players to speak about black lives matter openly, the same should be done for supporting Hong Kong without the fear of the Chinese Communist party pulling the plug. It's definitely difficult to swallow the fact that money speaks louder than morals and principles.

Thanks for your post.

[Frenchfred]

This China thing is big.

The NBA is basically subscribing to Chinese Communist Party dictating American freedom of speech laws.

And Pop has nothing to say?
He is always very happy to criticize the government and the President. Meantime Kerr stutters some sorry-ass excuse not to comment...

Got to love the progressive NBA.

like Trump stopped manufacturing all his goods in China while he is parading pretending to fight against China to defend the American worker :sleep

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He's got 11 million reasons to stay mum on the topic. How many of you would risk that just to say Hong Kong shouldn't honor their contract with China...albeit a sh!tty one.

[Mugen]

Probably found out that Bryn is half Chinese or something.

[ZeusWillJudge]

:lmao fucking idiot morey Twitter activism about to cost his team and the league hundreds of billions of dollars


No. Just no. I don't know what the NBA's total revenue was this past season, but in 2018 it was $8B. That's total money taken in, not profit. So, no, even if China were to cut off the NBA completely, it won't be a loss of hundreds of billions. You mental fucking midget.

[Yogatti]

Popob1tch is a coward with no integrity just like every other social justice warriors in the NBA. Not surprising at all. If Tim Duncan didn’t exist he would never be relevant, wasn’t he close to getting fired before Tim GOATcan saved his sorry ass

[acoelho1]

China is one of the most repressive regimes whereas the US is one of the freest nations in the world but Americans consistently whine about how bad they have it. I don't expect Pop or any of the star players to say a peep about China's human rights record or the situation in Hong Kong. They are quick to jump all over Trump because it's convenient and doesn't cost them anything but when true injustice occurs, they are silent.

[RGMCSE]

Pop is a coward.

[ZeusWillJudge]

daryl morey isn't being prosecuted for his comments. that's freedom of speech. if the NBA wants to prioritize its bottom line, it can do that. freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequence

You do realize that the NBA couldn't exist without an anti-trust exemption? So by your theory, if Silver says something the government doesn't like, they could just cut off the exemption to "prioritize our national bottom line". Silver could still say whatever he wants, so it doesn't violate his freedom of speech. We would just make it so expensive that he couldn't afford to.

"You can say whatever you want, but if you say something we don't like, we will bankrupt you." You can call that kind of move whatever you want to, but the bottom line is that only one political point of view gets expressed, and that is the exact thing the First Amendment was created to prevent. China censors the shit out of people in their country, and now they are trying to keep someone in this country from expressing an idea that they don't like. And some of you little muppets think that's okay.

The fact is, Silver actually did stand up for freedom of speech for its employees. And the OP's observation about Pop is well founded. He considers himself an advocate for what is "right" all the time. He should be the first to stand up for the fundamental freedom to express oneself, even if he doesn't agree with the comment.

[Genovaswitness]

No. Just no. I don't know what the NBA's total revenue was this past season, but in 2018 it was $8B. That's total money taken in, not profit. So, no, even if China were to cut off the NBA completely, it won't be a loss of hundreds of billions. You mental fucking midget.

break out the calculator lmao :lmao

[spurraider21]

You do realize that the NBA couldn't exist without an anti-trust exemption? So by your theory, if Silver says something the government doesn't like, they could just cut off the exemption to "prioritize our national bottom line". Silver could still say whatever he wants, so it doesn't violate his freedom of speech. We would just make it so expensive that he couldn't afford to.

"You can say whatever you want, but if you say something we don't like, we will bankrupt you." You can call that kind of move whatever you want to, but the bottom line is that only one political point of view gets expressed, and that is the exact thing the First Amendment was created to prevent. China censors the shit out of people in their country, and now they are trying to keep someone in this country from expressing an idea that they don't like. And some of you little muppets think that's okay.

The fact is, Silver actually did stand up for freedom of speech for its employees. And the OP's observation about Pop is well founded. He considers himself an advocate for what is "right" all the time. He should be the first to stand up for the fundamental freedom to express oneself, even if he doesn't agree with the comment.
i'm just saying what "free speech" actually means with respect to the constitution

[ZeusWillJudge]

Has a member of media ask him publicly yet?


He seeks out the media when there's a message that he wants to spout. And they are always ready to put a microphone in front of him. There's nothing more fundamental than freedom of expression, and he ought to be using his big microphone to say so.

[koriwhat]

China is one of the most repressive regimes whereas the US is one of the freest nations in the world but Americans consistently whine about how bad they have it. I don't expect Pop or any of the star players to say a peep about China's human rights record or the situation in Hong Kong. They are quick to jump all over Trump because it's convenient and doesn't cost them anything but when true injustice occurs, they are silent.

:tu

[ZeusWillJudge]

i'm just saying what "free speech" actually means with respect to the constitution


It doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want, but we'll punish the shit out of you if you say something we don't like.

How about if someone were to go to a Gay Pride parade, and their employer fired them for it? Maybe contact other employers to blackball them? "You can say and do whatever you want, but because we control the money, we'll starve you out if you step out of line." Do you think that sort of thing has a chilling effect on free speech, freedom of expression? Don't even bother. You know the answer.

The Constitution doesn't say jack shit about that, directly. But when the intent is to totally silence one whole side of an issue, it's not what 1A intended.

[GAustex]

So far... good for Silver.

[Light]

It doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want, but we'll punish the shit out of you if you say something we don't like.

How about if someone were to go to a Gay Pride parade, and their employer fired them for it? Maybe contact other employers to blackball them? "You can say and do whatever you want, but because we control the money, we'll starve you out if you step out of line." Do you think that sort of thing has a chilling effect on free speech, freedom of expression? Don't even bother. You know the answer.

The Constitution doesn't say jack shit about that, directly. But when the intent is to totally silence one whole side of an issue, it's not what 1A intended.

And in that same breath, the company that fires the employee for going to a Gay Pride parade will have to suffer whatever backlash/boycott from that community and others, as a result.

[spurraider21]

It doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want, but we'll punish the shit out of you if you say something we don't like.

How about if someone were to go to a Gay Pride parade, and their employer fired them for it? Maybe contact other employers to blackball them? "You can say and do whatever you want, but because we control the money, we'll starve you out if you step out of line." Do you think that sort of thing has a chilling effect on free speech, freedom of expression? Don't even bother. You know the answer.

The Constitution doesn't say jack shit about that, directly. But when the intent is to totally silence one whole side of an issue, it's not what 1A intended.
the constitution only refers to state action. private employers arent within its scope

[spurraider21]

And in that same breath, the company that fires the employee for going to a Gay Pride parade will have to suffer whatever backlash/boycott from that community and others, as a result.
yup. free speech is about the preservation of the marketplace of ideas, not to promote or dissuade certain viewpoints

[cd98]

Again I say...we can't use the term "owner" now because somehow that inspires a plantation mentality, but players/coaches/NBA is silent about China using dissidents to harvest organs because there is too much money at stake.

I understand not wanting to meddle in another's business. I don't think players/coaches need to opine on whether England should be part of the EU. But when outspoken people are silent about concentration camp behavior, then you have to question how "woke" they really are. We turned a blind eye before WWII as well because it was inconvenient to call out the Nazis. What China is doing to dissidents is on that level. And through money, they are telling us what movies can say and what entertainers can say. Kudos for South Park for calling them out.

[Beartrucci]

David Robinson joining Rachel Nichols and RJ from Shanghai right now on The Jump

Meh never mind didn’t talk about China situation. Not surprising

[acoelho1]

These guys are such cowards. They are experts on gun control and how government should run but now they plea ignorance on the China situation. So convenient.

Also, when the media anointed Kapernick a civil rights leader, they were so quick to comment but where are they now. Being able to play football verse being jailed for your political beliefs is not even comparable.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/outspoken-warriors-coach-steve-kerr-no-comments-nb-as-china-controversy-043403491.html

[Pavlov]

should we not criticize the US government if we ever bought a product made in the US? i dont understand thisIt's just funny tbh. I don't even see anyone here actually criticizing the Chinese government -- they're just looking for another excuse to criticize Pop and black men.

[Genovaswitness]

It's just funny tbh. I don't even see anyone here actually criticizing the Chinese government -- they're just looking for another excuse to criticize Pop.

it’s just funny how sanctimonious pop is about every issue du jour but keeps his mouth shut on something remotely uncomfortable. not everything is as easy as ORANGE MAN BAD :lmao

[cd98]

It's just funny tbh. I don't even see anyone here actually criticizing the Chinese government -- they're just looking for another excuse to criticize Pop and black men.

See topic of thread. This is about Pop. Start a China thread and start defending the Chinese government and you'll get your dissent. This isn't a racism thread, which is a red herring, it's a hypocrisy thread.

[gospursgojas]

Lol same people calling Pop a coward for not chiming in on China are the same that say he should keep his mouth shut and focus on basketball.

[Ignazzz]

China is one of the most repressive regimes whereas the US is one of the freest nations in the world but Americans consistently whine about how bad they have it. I don't expect Pop or any of the star players to say a peep about China's human rights record or the situation in Hong Kong. They are quick to jump all over Trump because it's convenient and doesn't cost them anything but when true injustice occurs, they are silent.
First part of sentence agree but „USA one of the freest? „ From european perspective sounds very funny.

[Pavlov]

it’s just funny how sanctimonious pop is about every issue du jour but keeps his mouth shut on something remotely uncomfortable. not everything is as easy as ORANGE MAN BAD :lmaoCase in point.

[Pavlov]

See topic of thread. This is about Pop. Start a China thread and start defending the Chinese government and you'll get your dissent. This isn't a racism thread, which is a red herring, it's a hypocrisy thread.The people criticizing Pop and the black men are certainly showing their hypocrisy.

Good job!:tu

[cd98]

The people criticizing Pop and the black men are certainly showing their hypocrisy.

Good job!:tu

So are the people looking the other way.

[cd98]

Lol same people calling Pop a coward for not chiming in on China are the same that say he should keep his mouth shut and focus on basketball.

I think it's more, if you are going to open your mouth, be consistent. I think Kerr is the one that really has egg on his face. He's acting like he's never heard of China oppressing its dissidents. China has been doing this for years and years. Kerr's dad was a diplomat (tragically killed in his service), so I can't imagine Kerr not knowing what is going on in China.

That said, it is true that as much as we as Americans will complain about China, we still buy there stuff and allow our government to borrow money from them.

[Pavlov]

So are the people looking the other way.Well, on what other foreign civil conflicts not involving the US have Pop and the black men taken a public stand?

Do you expect them to comment on every single one?

[baseline bum]

Why is Pop supposed to say shit about China? It's not his fucking country.

[Pavlov]

Ultimately a weird hill to demand American black men and NBA coaches die upon.

We fully support the protests demanding Chinese criminals in China not be extradited to...[checks notes]...China.

[cd98]

Well, on what other foreign civil conflicts not involving the US have Pop and the black men taken a public stand?

Do you expect them to comment on every single one?

I do when they have a direct financial interest and the country has concentration camps.

[FvckMavs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0FehMH4r6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa_wgTXI5dA



I'm a Spurs fan from Hong Kong and usually read more than I post.

We have been protesting since early June against the extradition bill. The initial message wasn't even for independence, but simply objection to a law which would have severely encroach on our civil liberties. There was a weekend where two million people came out for a peaceful march which was ignored by the government.

What started off as peaceful protests were met with violent clashes with the police trying to suppress the message. While I don't condone the violence, I see how the government pushes these protestors to this point with the police instigating the situation with the generous use of tear gas and pepper spray. Keep in mind these are almost all high school and university students in the forefront who are getting beaten and arrested. It's terrifying seeing the city become the police authoritarian state which the western world fears.

I respect Morey for speaking up, but it's just a shame he took it down right away. As a resident of Hong Kong we would love to see the NBA take a firm stance on what they believe in, free speech without a fear of repercussions. If they can allow for players to speak about black lives matter openly, the same should be done for supporting Hong Kong without the fear of the Chinese Communist party pulling the plug. It's definitely difficult to swallow the fact that money speaks louder than morals and principles.

[Pavlov]

I do when they have a direct financial interest and the country has concentration camps.:lol Pop has no direct financial interest in China.

Joe Tsai has a direct financial interest in China and you see what he wrote -- well you probably didn't. Who am I kidding?

[TD 21]

Ultimately a weird hill to demand American black men and NBA coaches die upon.

We fully support the protests demanding Chinese criminals in China not be extradited to...[checks notes]...China.

:tu For using the term "American black men" as opposed to the far more commonly referred to and ignorant "African-American" (funny, I've never heard the term European-American; I guess I missed when they were indigenous to the land).

We've had our basketball related "battles" over the years, but for someone who comes off as a white, middle aged curmudgeon, you're surprisingly "woke".

[Genovaswitness]

Case in point.

cucked reply tbh

[Pavlov]

:tu For using the term "American black men" as opposed to the far more commonly referred to and ignorant "African-American" (funny, I've never heard the term European-American and I missed when they were indigenous to the land).

We've had our basketball related "battles" over the years, but for someone who comes off as a white, middle aged curmudgeon, you're surprisingly "woke".Whenever I say "lol white people" I'm including myself. The best white men can hope for is to not be completely ignorant about what is going on with other groups.

[Pavlov]

cucked reply tbhYou certainly haven't refuted the argument tbh.

[gambit1990]

pop will comment on it. will probably call it a complicated situation (which it is) and probably go further than that.

i don’t think he’s been asked about it by the media yet...

[gambit1990]

but yeah, super sad / lame all these american businesses care so much about $$$ over human rights.

[Down Under]

The problem is the US & it's allies have tried to overthrow dozens of regimes over the past 70 years trying to impart their democracy on countries that simply weren't ready for it. The countries wound up more destablised than with their existing Autocratic leaders in charge & contributed to the deaths of millions & millions of people. It's pretty hard to lecture other countries on human rights & freedom of expression when this is your track record.

[gambit1990]

with all that being said... china didn’t just start being inhumane...

[gambit1990]

:lol @ harden apologizing for morey. pu$$y. morey shouldn’t have deleted his tweet but i’m sure he could feel the pressure from the rockets owner.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I think if Pop is asked he will comment on the situation. I don’t expect him to go as in-depth on the issue as he does with stuff that happens in the USA but I don’t think he would completely go PC with his response.

I definitely understand the viewpoint of some folks trying to call folks hypocrites because it has been known that China political and human rights ideologies are a bit stricter than the USA.

I also know that a lot of Americans didn’t or don’t realize how strict it is in other countries compared to the USA so it’s kind of disingenuous for people to be quick to label some who haven’t spoken out yet because they aren’t as knowledgeable on the facts of the situation being discussed.

I mean it isn't like Morey was openly speaking up about the issues going on in the USA before he tweeted about Hong Kong but that wasn’t used to invalidate what he tweeted about Hong Kong

[ismael-robert]

Just heard pop on woai praising silver and contrasting him to the leadership of the "last 3 years"

[diego]

I'm a Spurs fan from Hong Kong and usually read more than I post.

We have been protesting since early June against the extradition bill. The initial message wasn't even for independence, but simply objection to a law which would have severely encroach on our civil liberties. There was a weekend where two million people came out for a peaceful march which was ignored by the government.

What started off as peaceful protests were met with violent clashes with the police trying to suppress the message. While I don't condone the violence, I see how the government pushes these protestors to this point with the police instigating the situation with the generous use of tear gas and pepper spray. Keep in mind these are almost all high school and university students in the forefront who are getting beaten and arrested. It's terrifying seeing the city become the police authoritarian state which the western world fears.

I respect Morey for speaking up, but it's just a shame he took it down right away. As a resident of Hong Kong we would love to see the NBA take a firm stance on what they believe in, free speech without a fear of repercussions. If they can allow for players to speak about black lives matter openly, the same should be done for supporting Hong Kong without the fear of the Chinese Communist party pulling the plug. It's definitely difficult to swallow the fact that money speaks louder than morals and principles.

Hi, thanks for the info. Just a question since I live in Chile and only keep up a little bit since I have some ties to China and Hong Kong from the 90s. But I seem to recall reading in the very first week of the protest, that the hk administrator or governor not sure what the title is, I remember reading that she pulled back on the extradition law because of the public backlash like I said in the first week or 2nd week. I was surprised that Beijing folded so fast and more surprised that the conflict continued to escalate, is my memory / sources failing me or is that right?

As a leftist, and assuming what I remember and read was true, I'm a little bothered by the double standard here- for example in Chile police regularly use tear gas, pepper spray, water cannons, rubber bullets, and every year there are severe consequences, be it brain damage, lost eyeballs, or dead protestors, also mostly high school/college students. Whenever there is a WTC or g7 summit the same things happen. No one mainstream questions how western govts repress their people, on the contrary, the discussion is always about the use of masks, the violence and destruction of public property, etc. When was the last time protestors in the west successfully made their govts reverse a policy? I realize there is more at stake than just extradition, and that the Chinese govt has worse crimes than how they handle the two systems policy, but it seems the way the western media has covered the situation is not at all consistent with their coverage of similar conflicts in the west. I'd appreciate any correction to my understanding of what's happening.

[Light]

Lol same people calling Pop a coward for not chiming in on China are the same that say he should keep his mouth shut and focus on basketball.


This. When people don't have a valid argument against you, their only option is to try to discredit your opinion.

[Genovaswitness]

This. When people don't have a valid argument against you, their only option is to try to discredit your opinion.

he should speak on all issues and not just the John Oliver talking points ones

ORANGE MAN BAD :lmao

[Light]

he should speak on all issues and not just the John Oliver talking points ones

ORANGE MAN BAD :lmao

so unless you speak on ALL issues in existence, then you can't speak on any issues at all? :lmao

[Pavlov]

he should speak on all issues and not just the John Oliver talking points ones

ORANGE MAN BAD :lmao
You can't speak on this issue if you follow your own demands for others.

[Genovaswitness]

You can't speak on this issue if you follow your own demands for others.

speak english retard

[Mr. Body]

he should speak on all issues and not just the John Oliver talking points ones

ORANGE MAN BAD :lmao

Lol what a fucking cuck

[TimmyBuckets]

sad thread is sad

[Genovaswitness]

Lol what a fucking cuck

ya I know that’s John Oliver for you

[FrostKing]

First part of sentence agree but „USA one of the freest? „ From european perspective sounds very funny.
Which European nation is more so in your opinion?

[FrostKing]

Whenever I say "lol white people" I'm including myself. The best white men can hope for is to not be completely ignorant about what is going on with other groups.
So much for the "race is just a color, we are all the same" song & dance

[spurs10]

Yeah. Pop has to be worried about the whole world as much as the country he lives and pays taxes in.

Get out of here with this shit. Of all people, Trumpers shouldn't be the ones worried about other nations. Yep!

[Pavlov]

So much for the "race is just a color, we are all the same" song & dance

For example, you're terrible at being a white guy. So resentful that you have advantages.

[Pavlov]

speak english retard

Which part are you failing to understand?

[FrostKing]

For example, you're terrible at being a white guy. So resentful that you have advantages.
I see how it is. Black men but white guys

[acoelho1]

I didn't realize human rights stopped at the US border. So as long as you agree with the outrage, it's ok to speak out but if you don't then you cop out with it's not even our country b.s.

[RGMCSE]

Just heard pop on woai praising silver and contrasting him to the leadership of the "last 3 years"

I read his quote and pop made it all about how silver is brave. He made it a point to shit on the President because it’s a popular liberal opinion and the media will take his quote and massage it to appease the dummy’s about how brave pop is. But the reality is pop didn’t specifically address any issue regarding oppressive communist China and or the Hong Kong situation. Pop isn’t dumb but he is a cowardice hypocrite.

[Pavlov]

I see how it is. Black men but white guys

I hesitate to call you a man tbh.

You see how that is?

[Pavlov]

I read his quote and pop made it all about how silver is brave. He made it a point to shit on the President because it’s a popular liberal opinion and the media will take his quote and massage it to appease the dummy’s about how brave pop is. But the reality is pop didn’t specifically address any issue regarding oppressive communist China and or the Hong Kong situation. Pop isn’t dumb but he is a cowardice hypocrite.
Has Trump addressed any of that since this situation started?

[Pavlov]

I didn't realize human rights stopped at the US border. So as long as you agree with the outrage, it's ok to speak out but if you don't then you cop out with it's not even our country b.s.

Are you speaking out against it?

[acoelho1]

Are you speaking out against it?

Do me a favor and try to use your brain when evaluating the hypocrisy of this situation.

[Keepin' it real]

I'm outraged.

[Play Boban]

Pop is spineless.

[Pavlov]

Do me a favor and try to use your brain when evaluating the hypocrisy of this situation.I have done that just fine tbh. I'm waiting for you guys to pick up on it.

[RGMCSE]

Has Trump addressed any of that since this situation started?

Actually yes he has. He called out China for stealing US intellectual property among other issues and sided with Hong Kong democracy. He basically told China to fuck off and play fair.

[spurs1990]

I read his quote and pop made it all about how silver is brave. He made it a point to shit on the President because it’s a popular liberal opinion and the media will take his quote and massage it to appease the dummy’s about how brave pop is. But the reality is pop didn’t specifically address any issue regarding oppressive communist China and or the Hong Kong situation. Pop isn’t dumb but he is a cowardice hypocrite.

Some more his comments transcribed by the SAEN:

""I guess I can go at it this way. Adam is a very progressive leader. We all remember how he handled the situation with the former owner of the Clippers. It made everybody proud because it was the right thing to do. A couple of years ago, I was walking the streets in New York City during the gay pride parade. I turned around and here comes a float, and Adam is standing on a float with a big sign in support of LGBTQ. And I felt great again, just like I did with the Clipper deal.


"He came out strongly for freedom of speech (today). I felt great again. He's been a heck of a leader in that respect and very courageous. Then you compare it to what we've had to live through the past three years, it's a big difference. A big gap there, leadership-wise and courage-wise. It wasn't easy for him to say. He said that in an environment fraught with possible economic peril. But he sided with the principles that we all hold dearly, or most of us did until the last three years. I'm thrilled with what he said. The courage and leadership displayed is off the charts by comparison.

"We've all talked about or heard about all the talking heads have and everybody for the last three years, 'What kind of country do you want to be? Who are we? Where do we want to go?' Adam said something that helps you understand what direction you need to go in, rather than the cowardice of not being able to respond to something of the murder of Mr. (Jamal) Khashoggi. There are many, many incidents like that where leadership and courage mean nothing. It's all about personal aggrandizement. I was thrilled."

Popovich ended his comments with this: "Anybody got anything about the game or anything like that?"

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Popovich-praises-commissioner-s-courage-in-14502199.php

[Light]

Actually yes he has. He called out China for stealing US intellectual property among other issues and sided with Hong Kong democracy. He basically told China to fuck off and play fair.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/nba-china-controversy-trump/index.html

[RGMCSE]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/nba-china-controversy-trump/index.html

Lol what the fuck is this dumb ass shit? I was asked a question whether trump has addressed the Hong Kong protests and the President has done so and supports Hong Kong democracy. This article like many cnn articles paints trump as the problem when the NBA is the actual topic. Trump has not remained silent on this issue and this article is lying to you.

[Light]

Lol what the fuck is this dumb ass shit? I was asked a question whether trump has addressed the Hong Kong protests and the President has done so and supports Hong Kong democracy. This article like many cnn articles paints trump as the problem when the NBA is the actual topic. Trump has not remained silent on this issue and this article is lying to you.

Trump has tweeted about the nba in the past, but since he hasn't tweeted about this event specifically, that makes him a hypocrite :rolleyes

[RGMCSE]

Trump has tweeted about the nba in the past, but since he hasn't tweeted about this event specifically, that makes him a hypocrite :rolleyes

Trump specifically addressed the situation at his last UN speech. I think that holds a little more water than fucking Twitter.

[Pavlov]

Trump specifically addressed the situation at his last UN speech. I think that holds a little more water than fucking Twitter.

And then what?

[RGMCSE]

And then what?

I answered your question with an answer you probably weren’t expecting. That’s what.

[Pavlov]

I answered your question with an answer you probably weren’t expecting. That’s what.

So nothing l. He's said one more thing than the people you're bitching about. Been awhile. Guess he's busy.

[Light]

Trump specifically addressed the situation at his last UN speech. I think that holds a little more water than fucking Twitter.

lol, the whole China - NBA situation happened because a tweet. Besides, the UN speech was before this whole dust up. The point is that he has not said anything in support of the NBA nor NBA owner's freedom of speech; but when it came to the NFL and their owners, he was very outspoken with his opinion. based on op's logic, that makes Trump a hypocrite.

[RGMCSE]

lol, the whole China - NBA situation happened because a tweet. Besides, the UN speech was before this whole dust up. The point is that he has not said anything in support of the NBA nor NBA owner's freedom of speech; but when it came to the NFL and their owners, he was very outspoken with his opinion. based on op's logic, that makes Trump a hypocrite.

trumps not the one that apologized to China for choosing a side because it’s going to affect the cash flow. Your just trying to deflect with trump hate. This isn’t about trump. He has a position and it’s in support of democratic Hong Kong. He made that clear at the highest level. On the other hand you have Silver coming out and apologizing for the tweet. Morey deleted and apologized and the rockets owner bending over. Mean while the most “woke” head coaches are not taking a stand. Kerr basically played dumb ass and avoided it like a coward and pop deflected with trump hate which everyone loves.

[MultiTroll]

Kerr basically played dumb ass and avoided it like a coward and pop deflected with trump hate which everyone loves.
What did these two *woke* posuers say? I didn't know Popped addressed it.

Update: I found Kerrs but not Craters.
https://www.mediaite.com/sports/warriors-coach-steve-kerr-under-fire-for-dodging-on-nba-china-controversy-mealy-mouthed-and-weak-stance/

Ok saw the Pop quote. Didn't want to wade thru the usual spamming Pavlov etc Troll Talk.

Ya his sucks off Silver and spins it over to Trump hate. Soo witty.

[MultiTroll]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Chumplov (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9940675#post9940675)
And then what?



I answered your question with an answer you probably weren’t expecting. That’s what.
:lol
Rack it.

[ElNono]

When Pop says shit.. ":cry I wish Pop would shut the fuck up :cry"

When Pop doesn't say shit ":cry Why is Pop not speaking out about this? :cry"

You niglets need to pick a lane...

And honestly, he should state the obvious: the US far from having any authority to tell any other country how to conduct their business.

As my scros hater and TheGreatYacht always say, we bomb the fuck out of innocent people and call it collateral damage, we make up bullshit terms like "enemy combatant" to remove any kind of due process and skirt the constitution, we disappear people under "extraordinary rendition" worldwide, then torture them. Sure, we're better than Venezuela, but let's stop pretending our human rights track record is pristine.

[gambit1990]

so i guess part of why pop hasn't said something is because he hasn't been asked by the media... but also, he's in a tougher spot than kerr and morey TBH. spurs can't afford to lose another revenue stream... warriors and rockets are relevant...

[Dex]

Pop addressed this over six hours ago, so I'm not sure what some of you people are bitching about other than trying to find reason to bitch.

Full quote:


"I guess I can go at it this way. Adam is a very progressive leader. We all remember how he handled the situation with the former owner of the Clippers. It made everybody proud because it was the right thing to do. A couple of years ago, I was walking the streets in New York City during the gay pride parade. I turned around and here comes a float, and Adam is standing on a float with a big sign in support of LGBTQ. And I felt great again, just like I did with the Clipper deal.

"He came out strongly for freedom of speech (today). I felt great again. He's been a heck of a leader in that respect and very courageous. Then you compare it to what we've had to live through the past three years, it's a big difference. A big gap there, leadership-wise and courage-wise. It wasn't easy for him to say. He said that in an environment fraught with possible economic peril. But he sided with the principles that we all hold dearly, or most of us did until the last three years. I'm thrilled with what he said. The courage and leadership displayed is off the charts by comparison.

"We've all talked about or heard about all the talking heads have and everybody for the last three years, 'What kind of country do you want to be? Who are we? Where do we want to go?' Adam said something that helps you understand what direction you need to go in, rather than the cowardice of not being able to respond to something of the murder of Mr. (Jamal) Khashoggi. There are many, many incidents like that where leadership and courage mean nothing. It's all about personal aggrandizement. I was thrilled."

I'm sure that will give you some new ammunition to whine about.

[ducks]

Kerr is shuttling is pie hole to
Basically the nba told them shut the hell up about it
Kerr and pop are afraid of getting fined only talk on social issues if it does not cost their wallet
Typical liberals

[Dex]

Kerr is shuttling is pie hole to
Basically the nba told them shut the hell up about it
Kerr and pop are afraid of getting fined only talk on social issues if it does not cost their wallet
Typical liberals

Typical poster in this thread with a reading disability

Too busy pushing that agenda to actually read the posts, Pops quote has only been posted a couple times now

[monty4329]

like Trump stopped manufacturing all his goods in China while he is parading pretending to fight against China to defend the American worker :sleep

When did Trump criticize his own government for this?

[monty4329]

trumps not the one that apologized to China for choosing a side because it’s going to affect the cash flow. Your just trying to deflect with trump hate. This isn’t about trump. He has a position and it’s in support of democratic Hong Kong. He made that clear at the highest level. On the other hand you have Silver coming out and apologizing for the tweet. Morey deleted and apologized and the rockets owner bending over. Mean while the most “woke” head coaches are not taking a stand. Kerr basically played dumb ass and avoided it like a coward and pop deflected with trump hate which everyone loves.

a well done summarization

[Light]

trumps not the one that apologized to China for choosing a side because it’s going to affect the cash flow. Your just trying to deflect with trump hate. This isn’t about trump. He has a position and it’s in support of democratic Hong Kong. He made that clear at the highest level. On the other hand you have Silver coming out and apologizing for the tweet. Morey deleted and apologized and the rockets owner bending over. Mean while the most “woke” head coaches are not taking a stand. Kerr basically played dumb ass and avoided it like a coward and pop deflected with trump hate which everyone loves.


When people don't have a valid argument against you, their only option is to try to discredit your opinion.

You're arguing over who's shown the strongest support for democratic Hong Kong, which is a deflection. I'm arguing that Pop's silence on this topic is not a sign of hypocrisy and brought up Trump as an example of how the op's argument is flawed. Based on everything we know of Pop, we have a pretty good idea of where he stands on this issue. But since he hasn't said it verbally, that makes him a hypocrite?

If people are legitimately upset with Pop for not taking a public stand for democratic Hong Kong, then where was this energy before? It's not like China's social issues started over the weekend, so why wasn't anyone looking for Pop and the other "woke" coaches to say something before? To be up in arms about it now seems disingenuous.

[Philthemage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0FehMH4r6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa_wgTXI5dA

As I said, I don't condone the violence and it's heart wrenching to see my city being destroyed each day. But if you want to nitpick and show clips of police getting attacked, there are twice the amount of videos online of them beating protestors, many of them young students.

Four years ago this began as a peaceful sit in outside the government offices. It was the government who ordered the police to move protestors out by force. That was when the sit ins moved to the financial district. And again it was police coming in by force with tear gas.

[Philthemage]

Hey no worries and thanks for your comments.

The extradition bill was originally slated to be passed by June, but the protests against it began months before. The first weekend of June had 1million people march to protest. The government chose to ignore that. On June 16th, close to 2 million people came out to march which was again ignored. And then the violence escalated from both sides. It wasn't until September when she officially withdrew the bill. But by the time damage has been done on both sides. Protestors had more to be angry about with the police brutality, while the police had to put up a stand every weekend.

I think the west has been very critical of police force whether from the west or what's going on in Hong Kong. The light that the black lives matter movement is portrayed in the media is not too different from the protests in HK now. The press have done a great job of keeping the police in check, as each week they're putting their lives on the line because they're in the heart of the protests, getting sprayed by pepper spray, tear gas, hit by Molotov cocktails etc. Right now the press is essentially the last straw from complete police authoritarian state. That's why the police right now are seeing the press as the enemy. They're beating and berating them on the front lines preventing them from filming. So I don't think it's getting any more attention than it is in the west. But perhaps it's just that the press have 100+ cameras each day at the heart of every clash, hence more material.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

pops trolling the eff out of magaland with that answer. praising silver, supporting free speech, strongly implying pro-HK position, while trashing trump lmao lmao

[UZER]

pops trolling the eff out of magaland with that answer. praising silver, supporting free speech, strongly implying pro-HK position, while trashing trump lmao lmao

He’s been trolling the eff out of spurs fans with his coaching for the past few years too.

[BackHome]

What did these two *woke* posuers say? I didn't know Popped addressed it.

Update: I found Kerrs but not Craters.
https://www.mediaite.com/sports/warriors-coach-steve-kerr-under-fire-for-dodging-on-nba-china-controversy-mealy-mouthed-and-weak-stance/

Ok saw the Pop quote. Didn't want to wade thru the usual spamming Pavlov etc Troll Talk.

Ya his sucks off Silver and spins it over to Trump hate. Soo witty.

+1

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

He’s been trolling the eff out of spurs fans with his coaching for the past few years too.

also true

[GAustex]

Good for Pop and Silver. Sticking to your values is admirable in the face of the potential loss of $$$. Whether you agree with him/them or not.

[RD2191]

Pop making OP suck a fat dick. :lol

[Pavlov]

trumps not the one that apologized to China for choosing a side because it’s going to affect the cash flow. Your just trying to deflect with trump hate. This isn’t about trump. He has a position and it’s in support of democratic Hong Kong. He made that clear at the highest level. On the other hand you have Silver coming out and apologizing for the tweet. Morey deleted and apologized and the rockets owner bending over. Mean while the most “woke” head coaches are not taking a stand. Kerr basically played dumb ass and avoided it like a coward and pop deflected with trump hate which everyone loves.
What did Trump actually say about it? I noticed you avoided quoting him.

[acoelho1]

Pop's comments was simply deflecting the issue and this seems to be the talking points given out to the NBA players and coaches. Talk only about what Adam Silver's position on freedom of speech. There was nothing about condemning the Chinese government or their actions. It was reported this morning that some fans showed up to support the Lakers but they hid their faces once the cameras panned in their direction. That should tell you a lot about the regime.

Also, I could care less about what Pop or Steve Kerr thinks about America but if you are going to be so demonstrative on positions that a large portion of the US population disagrees with and call them ignorant and racist, then you can expect some blow back when they see the hypocrisy in this situation.

[Pavlov]

Pop's comments was simply deflecting the issue and this seems to be the talking points given out to the NBA players and coaches. Talk only about what Adam Silver's position on freedom of speech. There was nothing about condemning the Chinese government or their actions. It was reported this morning that some fans showed up to support the Lakers but they hid their faces once the cameras panned in their direction. That should tell you a lot about the regime.

Also, I could care less about what Pop or Steve Kerr thinks about America but if you are going to be so demonstrative on positions that a large portion of the US population disagrees with and call them ignorant and racist, then you can expect some blow back when they see the hypocrisy in this situation.Yeah, you're really showing how little you care.:lol

[Light]

Pop's comments was simply deflecting the issue and this seems to be the talking points given out to the NBA players and coaches. Talk only about what Adam Silver's position on freedom of speech. There was nothing about condemning the Chinese government or their actions. It was reported this morning that some fans showed up to support the Lakers but they hid their faces once the cameras panned in their direction. That should tell you a lot about the regime.

Also, I could care less about what Pop or Steve Kerr thinks about America but if you are going to be so demonstrative on positions that a large portion of the US population disagrees with and call them ignorant and racist, then you can expect some blow back when they see the hypocrisy in this situation.


The only blow back is from people who were already critical of Pop :lol

[acoelho1]

Yeah, you're really showing how little you care.:lol


The only blow back is from people who were already critical of Pop :lol

"There are all kinds of stupid people that annoy me but what annoys me most is a lazy argument." Hitchens

[cool cat]

"I guess I can go at it this way. Adam is a very progressive leader. We all remember how he handled the situation with the former owner of the Clippers. It made everybody proud because it was the right thing to do. A couple of years ago, I was walking the streets in New York City during the gay pride parade. I turned around and here comes a float, and Adam is standing on a float with a big sign in support of LGBTQ. And I felt great again, just like I did with the Clipper deal.

Finally Adam has completed his transformation to Dean Pelton.
http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/tc2oigchuDRvy/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

"There are all kinds of stupid people that annoy me but what annoys me most is a lazy argument." Hitchens
Then why are you leading with your lazy argument?

HE TALK ABOUT ONE THING HE NEED TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING!

[Isitjustme?]

Pop's comments was simply deflecting the issue and this seems to be the talking points given out to the NBA players and coaches. Talk only about what Adam Silver's position on freedom of speech. There was nothing about condemning the Chinese government or their actions. It was reported this morning that some fans showed up to support the Lakers but they hid their faces once the cameras panned in their direction. That should tell you a lot about the regime.

Also, I could care less about what Pop or Steve Kerr thinks about America but if you are going to be so demonstrative on positions that a large portion of the US population disagrees with and call them ignorant and racist, then you can expect some blow back when they see the hypocrisy in this situation.
Yes, you could care much much less since you care a tremendously great deal

[RGMCSE]

What did Trump actually say about it? I noticed you avoided quoting him.

Your still trying to make this about Trump? I wonder why? To be honest this isn’t a right or left issue. Both sides have come out and condemned the NBA. Whether I agree with a persons politics or not if you educated your self a little bit on what China is doing globally you might feel pissed off at people you wouldn’t have thought of. It goes both ways politically when it comes to China. I have done research both for college and professionally and China is a threat to the World. Look at the influence they have over the NBA right now. The NBA is fucking shook. Silver is literally trying to find the right words to say in his presser and has to answer to Yao Ming of all people. If your so curious go find the info. It’s out there. Any dumbass like your self can use google.

[Pavlov]

Your still trying to make this about Trump? I wonder why? To be honest this isn’t a right or left issue. Both sides have come out and condemned the NBA. Whether I agree with a persons politics or not if you educated your self a little bit on what China is doing globally you might feel pissed off at people you wouldn’t have thought of. It goes both ways politically when it comes to China. I have done research both for college and professionally and China is a threat to the World. Look at the influence they have over the NBA right now. The NBA is fucking shook. Silver is literally trying to find the right words to say in his presser and has to answer to Yao Ming of all people. If your so curious go find the info. It’s out there. Any dumbass like your self can use google.:lol I did look it up.

I can see why you're afraid to post it.

Just wanted to get your stonewalling on the record.:lol

[SupremeGuy]

Of course not; him and Kerr are proving everyone right that said they were giant hypocritical pieces of shit.

[Pavlov]

And of course this is about Trump. Every Trumptard on the board is checking in to whine about the dudes who dared speak up against their duce.

[koriwhat]

Any dumbass like your self can use google.

he's the type who needs his hand held tbh.

[RGMCSE]

:lol I did look it up.

I can see why you're afraid to post it.

Just wanted to get your stonewalling on the record.:lol

Afraid of what? Trump already won the presidency. I’m not afraid of shit. I’m just not going to run and spoon feed you the info. I already answered your question and you didn’t have shit to say. Just like now.

[koriwhat]

Of course not; him and Kerr are proving everyone right that said they were giant hypocritical pieces of shit.

it boils down to...

the NBA benefits monetarily from China.

the NBA benefits monetarily from hating on Trump.

[Pavlov]

Afraid of what? Trump already won the presidency. I’m not afraid of shit. I’m just not going to run and spoon feed you the info. I already answered your question and you didn’t have shit to say. Just like now.Yeah, he didn't say anything about being for the democracy movement. He just said that the world will be watching how China treats the demonstrators.

That's what I have to say.:lol

[BackHome]

I remember when North Carolina passed a law about men can only go to men’s room and women can only go to women’s restrooms. Well the LGQPT has a fit and I believe Silver interjected into state politics and said the NBA All Star game would not take place because of the blatant discrimination law. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

[GAustex]

I remember when North Carolina passed a law about men can only go to men’s room and women can only go to women’s restrooms. Well the LGQPT has a fit and I believe Silver interjected into state politics and said the NBA All Star game would not take place because of the blatant discrimination law. Someone correct me if I am wrong...
Pretty sure he said that
But there is a lot of $$ to be made in China so...

[RGMCSE]

Yeah, he didn't say anything about being for the democracy movement. He just said that the world will be watching how China treats the demonstrators.

That's what I have to say.:lol

its not a “democratic movement” you bumbling stumbling quisling idiot. Hong Kong is a democratic nation that was under British rule and China is not honoring that agreement to allow Hong Kong to continue as a free nation. If you would read or at the very least watch Trumps speech in entirety you would clearly hear trump stating that the world expects China to honor that agreement. You are a typical fake news parrot.

[NASpurs]

1182033770829860864

1182034340580077568

[Pavlov]

its not a “democratic movement” you bumbling stumbling quisling idiot. Hong Kong is a democratic nation that was under British rule and China is not honoring that agreement to allow Hong Kong to continue as a free nation. If you would read or at the very least watch Trumps speech in entirety you would clearly hear trump stating that the world expects China to honor that agreement. You are a typical fake news parrot.:lol Hong Kong is not a nation. That's pretty much the stupidest thing anyone has said ITT.

[cd98]

Not sure why people keep defecting to Trump. Surely Trump has some moral ground with his tariff battle, but we all know that the trade war was a miscalculation that is going to harm his ability to get re-elected on the only thing that has kept him relevant...the economy.

But Trump has nothing to do with Silver being so afraid of China that he issued a separate statement for the US and China. His statement here in the US is nice and sweet because he is relying on teams, like Rocket ownership, to reign in all talk about China. Note truth teller, Pop, had time to deflect the issue to Trump instead of mentioning the C word. He's as scared of talking about China as all the players. Why? It's bad for business. The NBA relies on the Chinese market to make big money. Pop want to try to recruit a max level player that will be blacklisted by China the minute he signs with the Spurs if Pop is outspoken?

While I don't blame Pop for cowering, I do think the players and Pop are hypocrites. They speak out on the detention centers for immigrants because its safe to do now that Trump is president. But they are silent on concentration camps where political dissidents are forced into slave/free labor to make goods for the US to buy. Try competing with that labor advantage. And when they aren't busy forcing the dissidents to be Santa's little helpers, they are using them to harvest organs. In any other setting, this would be an affront to the world, but here in the US, so many corporations, including the NBA, rely on those Chinese dollars that they won't take a stand and they will let China dictate what they say. I can't wait to watch Disney's live action Mulan and its script that has been approved by the Chinese government.

[Pavlov]

Not sure why people keep defecting to Trump.It's all the Trump supporting snowflakes that are up in arms about this.

[RGMCSE]

:lol Hong Kong is not a nation. That's pretty much the stupidest thing anyone has said ITT.

You know that Hong Kong operates as its own government under the British agreement with China right? Don’t be stupid or by all means continue to do so. Your so filled with trump hate you can’t even acknowledge the main topic. Typical.

[Spurtacular]

China owns us and the NBA by the balls not even Pop or Kerr would cross that line, chinese overlords would banish them

America is more than capable of making its own balls; but yea, this does come down to financial kowtowing.

[Pavlov]

You know that Hong Kong operates as its own government under the British agreement with China right? Hong Kong is not a nation. Don't double down on your stupid ass declaration.

[cd98]

It's all the Trump supporting snowflakes that are up in arms about this.

Some people here are as obsessed with blaming Trump as people here are in supporting him. But Trump has relatively nothing to do with the NBA and Disney kowtowing to China. It's just the next time I hear them talk about detention centers or using the term "owners" for a team, and then jet off to China to sell sneakers, I'm going to puke.

[RGMCSE]

1182033770829860864

1182034340580077568


BING FUCKING GO!!!

[Spurtacular]

It's all the Trump supporting snowflakes that are up in arms about this.

That's not an argument for anything. That's just you crying that you don't like Trump supporters.

:lmao Inept Neutered Chump :lmao

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

[Pavlov]

Some people here are as obsessed with blaming Trump as people here are in supporting him. But Trump has relatively nothing to do with the NBA and Disney kowtowing to China. It's just the next time I hear them talk about detention centers or using the term "owners" for a team, and then jet off to China to sell sneakers, I'm going to puke.Are you a Trump supporter?

[Spurtacular]

Are you a Trump supporter?

More crying that you don't like Trump supporters.

:lmao Neutered Chump :lmao

[soxxx]

Popovich is a fraud, he should be attacking China relentlessly, he attacks Trump yet, won't attack China.

Either put up or shut up Popovich, you Chinese communist supporting puppet, but go attack Trump whenever you can.

[RGMCSE]

Hong Kong is not a nation. Don't double down on your stupid ass declaration.

One country two systems. Which is that Hong Kong operates under its own government. This a fact that you can’t dispute. Keep deflecting. Multiple people in this thread myself included have already schooled you on how this has nothing to do with trump. But your hate fuels you.

[cd98]

Those videos are pretty funny. Trump is a troll for sure. I'm not a supporter at all of Trump, but I'll give him his kiddos for starting a trade war with China. Yes, it's bad for the economy. Yes, it will destroy the best argument he had for reelection. Yes, he's too stubborn to ever back down. But no other politician had the nerve to start that trade war. Maybe they are more realistic than Trump, but he hasn't kowtowed to the Chinese government yet. Though in fairness, he'll jump on whatever bone they throw him to resolve the trade war on some fake compromise.

[exstatic]

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about Hong Kong, or frankly anything not directly benefiting him. He's just taking a position, because China hurt his fee fees by countering every tariff he put on them.

[Pavlov]

One country two systems. Which is that Hong Kong operates under its own government. This a fact that you can’t dispute. Keep deflecting. Multiple people in this thread myself included have already schooled you on how this has nothing to do with trump. But your hate fuels you.Hong Kong is not a nation. This is a fact you can't dispute. Only a Trump supporter would be this stupid. Your hate fuels your stupidity.

[RGMCSE]

Popovich is a fraud, he should be attacking China relentlessly, he attacks Trump yet, won't attack China.

Either put up or shut up Popovich, you Chinese communist supporting puppet, but go attack Trump whenever you can.


Pop has been exposed as a fraud American hating communist. To think how our country has been fighting for freedom all the wars all the lives lost for Pop to basically stay silent on China. I never thought Pop would be such a fucking coward. He should resign on the spot.

[soxxx]

And of course this is about Trump. Every Trumptard on the board is checking in to whine about the dudes who dared speak up against their duce.

Popovich made this about Trump when he turned his post game conferences into political attacks, well now with China in the fore-front this guy is completely silent.

It just proves he is a fraud and just another typical leftist puppet.

[cd98]

Are you a Trump supporter?

Far from it. I couldn't stand the guy and I can't stand him now. He had like 5 or 6 moments during his run for president that made me say I can't vote for him. And since he's been president, I can't say that he's done anything to change my mind for the next election. What you fail to understand is that some people can call out hypocrisy regardless of their politics.

[Pavlov]

Popovich made this about Trump when he turned his post game conferences into political attacks, well now with China in the fore-front this guy is completely silent.

It just proves he is a fraud and just another typical leftist puppet.:lol see? Of course it's about Trump.

[Pavlov]

Far from it.I'll take your word on it.
I couldn't stand the guy and I can't stand him now. He had like 5 or 6 moments during his run for president that made me say I can't vote for him. And since he's been president, I can't say that he's done anything to change my mind for the next election. What you fail to understand is that some people can call out hypocrisy regardless of their politics.OK, so you're now a hypocrite if you don't comment strongly on every issue in the world.

Your rules.

[cd98]

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about Hong Kong, or frankly anything not directly benefiting him. He's just taking a position, because China hurt his fee fees by countering every tariff he put on them.

I can guarantee he doesn't care, not when he's courting N. Korea, which is worse than China on human rights. He's just hitting the easy softballs that Pop and Kerr are giving him to look like a tough guy and cook up some red meat. Notice that when they ask him what he thinks about the NBA and China, he deflects too.

[soxxx]

:lol see? Of course it's about Trump.

That's because of popovich, if you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen. He should have never turned his NBA press conferences into a political podium.

When it comes to China they are always silent, bunch of frauds.

[cd98]

I'll take your word on it.OK, so you're now a hypocrite if you don't comment strongly on every issue in the world.

Your rules.

I do comment a lot. I follow world events. I'm an international relations major from my college days. But no, Pop doesn't have to speak out on every issue in the world. But when the NBA is thrown in the spotlight, then he should step up and truth tell. He didn't. He deflected to Trump and didn't even mention the C-word. That's why you are defending an indefensible position. And NBA players that are traveling to China every summer to sell sneakers have every responsibility to speak up that they have when they are doing it in the U.S. They aren't traveling to Syria or North Korea (except Rodman). But they are in China every summer. Even injured Nephew couldn't get there fast enough.

[Pavlov]

That's because of popovich, if you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen. He should have never turned his NBA press conferences into a political podium.

When it comes to China they are always silent, bunch of frauds.:lol he just talked about China. Said just as much as Trump did. Get angry about that.

[Pavlov]

I do comment a lot. I follow world events. I'm an international relations major from my college days. But no, Pop doesn't have to speak out on every issue in the world. But when the NBA is thrown in the spotlight, then he should step up and truth tell. He didn't. He deflected to Trump and didn't even mention the C-word. That's why you are defending an indefensible position.
Of course it's defensible. No one is required to talk about everything. Period.

You don't.

[RGMCSE]

That's because of popovich, if you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen. He should have never turned his NBA press conferences into a political podium.

When it comes to China they are always silent, bunch of frauds.


it’s a tactic to deflect the real issue here about the NBA and it’s band of American haters for the all mighty China yuan. The entire nba has been exposed for being bent over by China. So much silence right now it’s deafening. This includes the Spurs org. It’s an embarrassment. All this bullshit about the “nba cares” lol yeah they care a lot. About that China money. Mean while they shit on America T every opportunity and dumbasses still buy that ticket and March their way to the fan shop. Lol.

[Pavlov]

it’s a tactic to deflect the real issue here about the NBA and it’s band of American hate for the all mighty China dollar. The entire nba has been exposed for being bent over by China. So much silence right now it’s deafening. This includes the Spurs org. It’s an embarrassment. All this bullshit about the “nba cares” lol yeah they care a lot. About that China money. Mean while they shit on America T every opportunity and dumbasses still buy that ticket and March their way to the fan shop. Lol.:lol are you wearing your MAGA hat while you're typing this? If the NBA triggers you so massively, why do you watch it on your Chinese TV and post about it from your Chinese phone?

[cd98]

Of course it's defensible. No one is required to talk about everything. Period.

You don't.

If I took the role of truth teller in the NBA and then the NBA was in a huge spotlight like they are right now, I would feel responsible to tell the truth. I mean it's a softball to talk about gun violence or detained refugees. He's saying "what you are supposed to say." But when it comes to China, he refused to speak up for those students in Hong Kong fighting for freedom. The same ones that will be detained for speaking up and will be making Christmas toys for the kids here in America and will be used to harvest organs in China. Those are the guys will balls that no one here has. And they put Pop to shame.

[cd98]

You know who is a truth teller, Daryl Morey. Much respect, even if his owner forced him to take down his tweet.

[Pavlov]

If I took the role of truth teller in the NBA and then the NBA was in a huge spotlight like they are right now, I would feel responsible to tell the truth. I mean it's a softball to talk about gun violence or detained refugees. He's saying "what you are supposed to say." But when it comes to China, he refused to speak up for those students in Hong Kong fighting for freedom. The same ones that will be detained for speaking up and will be making Christmas toys for the kids here in America and will be used to harvest organs in China. Those are the guys will balls that no one here has. And they put Pop to shame.:lol they'll also put you and me and Trump and anyone else to shame. What is your point?

[Pavlov]

You know who is a truth teller, Daryl Morey. Much respect, even if his owner forced him to take down his tweet.And the students put him to shame. If you want to keep track of degrees of shame, go ahead.

[RGMCSE]

You know who is a truth teller, Daryl Morey. Much respect, even if his owner forced him to take down his tweet.

Really he’s the fucking hero in all this. I can’t believe of all people and in such a manner has exposed the China oppressiveness in such a way that this discussion is now open to the masses. He took a typical known news story and ripped the scab off for mainstream media and followers to view.

[Pavlov]

Wait, now no one knew the Chinese government was bad before Morey's tweet?

:lmao these narratives....

[cd98]

I can't wait to see Pop order the US national team that is finally loaded with NBA superstars to lose to China because the Chinese government told them to do so. And then after, he can talk about Trump, even if Trump is no longer in office.

[Pavlov]

I can't wait to see Pop order the US national team that is finally loaded with NBA superstars to lose to China because the Chinese government told them to do so. And then after, he can talk about Trump, even if Trump is no longer in office.wut

[cd98]

Wait, now no one knew the Chinese government was bad before Morey's tweet?

:lmao these narratives....

You are missing the point. China has a long history of abuse, but Hong Kong hasn't been part of the long history, so in some senses, it is kind of new. At the same time, Morey and South Park are letting us all know just how pathetic the USA has become. We used to give lip service about China and its human rights problem. Now we are allowing them to silence us. That's haunting.

[Pavlov]

You are missing the point. China has a long history of abuse, but Hong Kong hasn't been part of the long history, so in some senses, it is kind of new. At the same time, Morey and South Park are letting us all know just how pathetic the USA has become. We used to give lip service about China and its human rights problem. Now we are allowing them to silence us. That's haunting.We as a nation sold out to China a long time ago because we like cheap shit and don't really care who gets exploited to that end. Let all your cheap China shit making your lives better haunt you. Chances are you won't.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Has pop talked about China's human rights issue's and why it's ok to play games in a wretched vile country? If he hasn't he's the hypocrite I knew he was.

[Light]

Morey is a hypocrite. He can support democratic Hong Kong, but he's never tweeted or spoke out about the human rights issues in Sudan. Coward. :lmao

[Floyd Pacquiao]

As long as Mao keeps writing those checks pop and Steve kerr won't say shit about the chinazis. Not a damn thing critical about them :lol

[acoelho1]

I remember when North Carolina passed a law about men can only go to men’s room and women can only go to women’s restrooms. Well the LGQPT has a fit and I believe Silver interjected into state politics and said the NBA All Star game would not take place because of the blatant discrimination law. Someone correct me if I am wrong...

Exactly. I guess opposing mandates on bathroom assignments is more important than human rights. Adam & crew are so courages.

[Pavlov]

Alright, you brave freedom fighters let me know how your China boycott goes. I guess you could mail a letter or something. Watch out where the pen is made tho.

[RGMCSE]

We as a nation sold out to China a long time ago because we like cheap shit and don't really care who gets exploited to that end. Let all your cheap China shit making your lives better haunt you. Chances are you won't.

they sell cheap shit because they steal intellectual property and then ban the originator / developer of a product with their own patents then sell it around the world. If they couldn’t steal intellectual property they wouldn’t have the 2nd largest economy. Anyways this has been going on for decades and it’s finally being called out. Mean while the NBA is getting bent over and silver and the like are crawling and begging.

[Pavlov]

they sell cheap shit because they steal intellectual property and then ban the originator / developer of a product with their own patents then sell it around the world. If they couldn’t steal intellectual property they wouldn’t have the 2nd largest economy. Anyways this has been going on for decades and it’s finally being called out. Mean while the NBA is getting bent over and silver and the like are crawling and begging.Meanwhile what have you done about it the past 30 years, tough guy?

[cd98]

Meanwhile what have you done about it the past 30 years, tough guy?

Yes, but RGMCSE and you and most posters here have very little power to influence China. But guys like Pop, the coach of the national team, and Silver, the head of a multi-billion dollar company have power and opportunity and mouthpiece to stand up to China and instead they are silenced in fear. That's why people are calling them out. To compare the position of Pop and Silver to a Spurstalk poster is not an argument, it's a sign of a lack of an argument.

[Pavlov]

Yes, but RGMCSE and you and most posters here have very little power to influence China. But guys like Pop, the coach of the national team, and Silver, the head of a multi-billion dollar company have power and opportunity and mouthpiece to stand up to China and instead they are silenced in fear. That's why people are calling them out. To compare the position of Pop and Silver to a Spurstalk poster is not an argument, it's a sign of a lack of an argument.
If they "stand up" to China, what changes in China?

Nothing. Not one damn thing.

In that respect, they are exactly the same as SpursTalk posters.

[cd98]

If they "stand up" to China, what changes in China?

Nothing. Not one damn thing.

In that respect, they are exactly the same as SpursTalk posters.

Who's to say? Morey's little tweet started a national conversation.

[Texas_Ranger]

fuck this china talk, did Pop talk about Trumps impeachment already?

[Pavlov]

Who's to say? Morey's little tweet started a national conversation.And nothing changed in China.

Not one damn thing.

[cd98]

If they "stand up" to China, what changes in China?

Nothing. Not one damn thing.

In that respect, they are exactly the same as SpursTalk posters.

Not sure why you are all in to defend Silver and Pop for being silent on human rights abuses in China when they have a huge microphone and could encourage and support the protesters that are risking their lives (including their vital organs). Why are you so against speaking out against China? Is it because you think speaking out against human rights somehow makes you a Trump supporter?

[Pavlov]

Not sure why you are all in to defend Silver and Pop for being silent on human rights abuses in China when they have a huge microphone and could encourage and support the protesters that are risking their lives (including their vital organs).I just said their speaking out changes absolutely nothing in China. And again, no one is required to say anything about anything. Not sure why you're all in on criticizing them when there are millions of other Americans with more skin in any game with China and bigger microphones.

And yes, most of the people whining about Pop are butthurt Trump supporters. Congrats if you aren't one.

[Pavlov]

Seriously the main thing keeping the Chinese government in check here is the presence of the fake news enemy of the people western media. If Xi finds a way to get them out he'll go full Tiananmen on the students.

[RGMCSE]

Meanwhile what have you done about it the past 30 years, tough guy?


China has over 17 + cells of hack groups around the world that they’re sole purpose is to hack MSP’s. When they attain access to these MSP’s they have access to countless companies data. The main reason they target MSP’s? Well for one a poorly run MSP does not use MFA practices and use credentials for multiple site/data stored within the MSP infrastructure for authorization. It’s actually laid out in CISA memos. Multiple agencies and countries are continuously battling these China hacking cells.

[Pavlov]

China has over 17 + cells of hack groups around the world that they’re sole purpose is to hack MSP’s. When they attain access to these MSP’s they have access to countless companies data. The main reason they target MSP’s? Well for one a poorly run MSP does not use MFA practices and use credentials for multiple site/data stored within the MSP infrastructure for authorization. It’s actually laid out in CISA memos. Multiple agencies and countries are continuously battling these China hacking cells. But I’ll leave it at that.You didn't actually say what you do, but regardless still financing them by buying all that cheap shit you're enjoying. I bet a bunch of you are still going to play Call of Duty as well.

[RGMCSE]

You didn't actually say what you do, but regardless still financing them by buying all that cheap shit you're enjoying. I bet a bunch of you are still going to play Call of Duty as well.

Why the fuck would I tell you what I do. Just know that I stay informed and you have nothing but fake news media bias trump hate. Besides any and all consumers have at one point bought something knowingly or not from China. Again you are an idiot. I can’t continue educating your dumb ass. It was fun though.

[Pavlov]

Why the fuck would I tell you what I do. Just know that I stay informed and you have nothing but fake news media bias trump hate. Besides any and all consumers have at one point bought something knowingly or not from China. Again you are an idiot. I can’t continue educating your dumb ass. It was fun though.So you weren't even talking about what you do?:lmao


And :lol at your "fake news" Trump mantra. The media is keeping those protesters in Hong Kong alive. You should be thanking the media if you actually give a shit about the protesters. Doesn't fit what you're told to believe though.

[Trainwreck2100]

All these people mad about China and doing business with them are out there buying their shit at walmart. Because China and what they do don't matter, a coach hurting their feelings does.

[cd98]

All these people mad about China and doing business with them are out there buying their shit at walmart. Because China and what they do don't matter, a coach hurting their feelings does.

Yes, but the criticism is that Pop opens his mouth to criticize the US every time the press asks him a question about some issue in the country, but when they ask them about China, he won't utter the C-word. Basically, he's fine criticizing Americans and how we do things because there is no consequence, even praise. But when his words could mean something in the middle of protesters in Hong Kong looking for support from the outside world, he chooses not to say a word. It makes him look like he's just a biased partisan instead of really being honest in his critiques about our country. Once you take the mantle of truth teller, you can't pick and chose when you want to step on the soapbox without being called out.

[TheGreatYacht]

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Oh man, this is rich coming from Bone Spurs :lmao

1. They don’t speak badly about the US, they speak badly about YOU.
2. This guy said the US intelligence departments were second rate and fluffs up Russia. Also ran his whole campaign around the fact that this country sucked and he wanted to make it great again lol.
3. The guy that’s neutral about all of this China-HK stuff is calling out others for being neutral :lmao

[cd98]

Dude, Trump has no shame. You should know that by now. The guy is a walking contradiction. But Pop and Kerr did lob a softball over the plate and he's going to knock it for a home run. Kerr was particularly weak looking in avoiding the question.

[Pavlov]

Stunningly, American black men and the men who work with them every day seem more concerned with domestic issues they can actually affect and that affect them and/or people they know. Just like pretty much most people in the world.

Crazy.

[Leetonidas]

Lol this rotting pumpkin faced looking faggot is routinely shitting on and talking shit about his own country :lmao can't believe there are retards on here that still felate this dumb fuck every chance they get :lmao

[cd98]

Stunningly, American black men and the men who work with them every day seem more concerned with domestic issues they can actually affect and that affect them and/or people they know. Just like pretty much most people in the world.

Crazy.

Yes, but they speak out and nothing happens. So under your logic, they should stop talking per your other posts. But if they care about human rights, then why not speak out? Hardin was falling over himself to assure China that he is good. Just let the man keep selling his shoes in China and he'll look the other way at whatever.

[TheGreatYacht]

Stunningly, American black men and the men who work with them every day seem more concerned with domestic issues they can actually affect and that affect them and/or people they know. Just like pretty much most people in the world.

Crazy.
Right wingers should know this. The old white boomers in congress took care of the opioids situation in a hurry when it was affecting their fellow whites.

Crazy

[Pavlov]

Yes, but they speak out and nothing happens. So under your logic, they should stop talking per your other postsNo, they can talk if they want to. You were the one pretending it would make a difference.

[paperboy77]

I doubt Morey even considered that his tweet would mean anything except to the "woke" people. This fool stumbled into this mess. BTW.. who didn't already know how shitty communist China was towards its people?

[GAustex]

And nothing changed in China.

Not one damn thing.
I thought I heard some streams were cut off and some sort of event canceled.

[Trainwreck2100]

Yes, but the criticism is that Pop opens his mouth to criticize the US every time the press asks him a question about some issue in the country, but when they ask them about China, he won't utter the C-word. Basically, he's fine criticizing Americans and how we do things because there is no consequence, even praise. But when his words could mean something in the middle of protesters in Hong Kong looking for support from the outside world, he chooses not to say a word. It makes him look like he's just a biased partisan instead of really being honest in his critiques about our country. Once you take the mantle of truth teller, you can't pick and chose when you want to step on the soapbox without being called out.


So you've taken the mantle and gone on to criticize everytime your boy donny contradicts himself?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I don't care about China or what they're doing :lol this is about pop and his moral hypocrisy. Shows the kind of man he is

[Pavlov]

I don't care about China or what they're doing :lol this is about pop and his moral hypocrisy. Shows the kind of man he is:lmao nice to know you have priorities.

Human rights and democracy? Hell naw.

Pop bad for not talking about the thing I don't care about? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS

[paperboy77]

Yes, but RGMCSE and you and most posters here have very little power to influence China. But guys like Pop, the coach of the national team, and Silver, the head of a multi-billion dollar company have power and opportunity and mouthpiece to stand up to China and instead they are silenced in fear. That's why people are calling them out. To compare the position of Pop and Silver to a Spurstalk poster is not an argument, it's a sign of a lack of an argument.

That's such a naive thing to say. What are you 18 and just learning about the world? Really hate when people get their world news from Le Bron and other entertainers like him. Then they assign them this status of being powerful when all they are is a big fish in a small bowl. The NBA is simply caught in a tough spot. Every business is about the bottom line and they have to do what they have to do to "work things out". They just feed you what you want to hear so they can keep you hooked and make money off you.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lmao nice to know you have priorities.

Human rights and democracy? Hell naw.

Pop bad for not talking about the thing I don't care about? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS

Thoughts on pop being a hypocrite ?

[Pavlov]

Thoughts on pop being a hypocrite ?Already posted. Try reading. Oh, you're not here for that either. :lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Already posted. Try reading. Oh, you're not here for that either. :lol

Just tell me

[cd98]

So you've taken the mantle and gone on to criticize everytime your boy donny contradicts himself?

You guys only see the world through politics. That's why you are all mixed up on this and defending the indefensible. I'm not a Trump voter and I'm not a fan. Being silenced by China was an embarrassment to how bad our country is kowtowing to their demands. I am critical of Trump, just read my posts on this thread. The kudos I give him is only for having the balls (or stupidity more likely) to start a trade war with China. But I predict it will either cost him the election (it is the only thing he has to run on...the economy) or he'll reach some fake compromise with China and pretend like he won the trade war.

[cd98]

That's such a naive thing to say. What are you 18 and just learning about the world? Really hate when people get their world news from Le Bron and other entertainers like him. Then they assign them this status of being powerful when all they are is a big fish in a small bowl. The NBA is simply caught in a tough spot. Every business is about the bottom line and they have to do what they have to do to "work things out". They just feed you what you want to hear so they can keep you hooked and make money off you.

I couldn't be more right and I think you prove my point. The NBA was caught in a bad position, the position it put itself in. And the NBA could have taken a stand for human rights and they cowered because money was more important than principal. If every business is about the bottom line, then football players shouldn't kneel, but I bet you disagree with that.

[Bynumite]

Poop is chickenshit and the king of grandstanding when there's nothing on the line. He knows he can rag on Trump at will with no repercussions.

Now in this instance, his words actually carry weight and might add fuel to the fire. So chickenshit Poop decided to pussy out instead.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Poop is chickenshit and the king of grandstanding when there's nothing on the line. He knows he can rag on Trump at will with no repercussions.

Now in this instance, his words actually carry weight and might add fuel to the fire. So chickenshit Poop decided to pussy out instead.

Yup a goddamn shame

[RGMCSE]

So you weren't even talking about what you do?:lmao

hell naw! 😭 I own a bodega / bagel shop in manhattan. Lol.

[weebo]

fuck the chinese and their flea market bull shit

[Yogatti]

President Donald Trump, in his first public comments about the NBA's relationship with China, criticized Warriors coach Steve Kerr and Spurs coach Gregg Popovich for their response to questions about the controversy.

Trump weighed in on the topic Wednesday afternoon, saying the NBA has to "work out their own situation" with China while he was critical of Kerr and Popovich, saying they "were pandering to China."

Kerr, who has been publicly critical of Trump and vocal on several social issues in the United States, said Monday that he had no comment when asked about the fallout from Rockets GM Daryl Morey's tweet last week that showed support for anti-government protesters in Hong Kong.

Trump ripped Kerr two days later, saying that the three-time championship-winning coach "was like a little boy, he was so scared to be even answering the question," Trump said. "He couldn't answer the question -- he was shaking 'Oh, oh, oh, I don't know. I don't know.'

"He didn't know how to answer the question, and yet he'll talk about the United States very badly."

Poop:lmao
Kerr:lmao

[jmill]

It's interesting to see people ITT hold an NBA coach to a higher standard on foreign relations than they do the President of the United States. The hypocrisy argument might be more meaningful if Trump himself didn't alternate between complimenting and berating Xi whenever it suits his interests. His behavior is the definition of the type of criticism people are so eager to lob towards Popovich.

[paperboy77]

I couldn't be more right and I think you prove my point. The NBA was caught in a bad position, the position it put itself in. And the NBA could have taken a stand for human rights and they cowered because money was more important than principal. If every business is about the bottom line, then football players shouldn't kneel, but I bet you disagree with that.

I do disagree with that. But you prove my point. It's all about the money to these people... and i don't blame them one bit. The "kneelers" did their thing but money was not at stake you see.. not to the players at least. I think Kap was the only one that lost money in this (until we find out about the $ coming from Nike). The ultimate sacrifice for a cause short of ending themselves would be to boycott the league! Too easy but they won't because the "cause" doesn't mean as much as money.

Still, I don't expect them to give up their $ just like, sadly, I wouldn't or you likely wouldn't. You can't fix the rest of the world so why try?

[Play Boban]

:lmao Poop and Little Boy Kerr dominated by President Trump :lol

[cd98]

:lmao Poop and Little Boy Kerr dominated by President Trump :lol

Let's be honest. Kerr was a poor little boy the minute Durrant left to sign with the Nets.

[cd98]

Are you a Trump supporter?

Whoa boy, you better have a seat. In addition to me not being a Trump supporter, it turns out Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez agrees with me too.

https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/bc420a63-b1e4-4fe5-bc9e-637d519cfbdb/sasse-nba-letter.pdf

[Pavlov]

Whoa boy, you better have a seat. In addition to me not being a Trump supporter, it turns out Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez agrees with me too.

https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/bc420a63-b1e4-4fe5-bc9e-637d519cfbdb/sasse-nba-letter.pdfUh, that's not AOC.

[Pavlov]

hell naw! 😭 I own a bodega / bagel shop in manhattan. Lol.:lol

Q: What are you doing about China?

A: CHINESE HACKERS EXIST

[cd98]

Uh, that's not AOC.

Uh, it is. She signed on the 2nd page.

[cd98]

Uh, that's not AOC.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/china-nba-dispute-legislators-condemn-league-for-betrayal-of-american-values/

[Pavlov]

Uh, it is. She signed on the 2nd page.Ah sweet.

Are you making the same demands?

What else is Congress doing besides trying to shame the NBA?

I mean it's easy to tell a company to ditch 10% of it's income. What's their sacrifice?

[The Whopper]

The relatively small entity (the NBA) is enslaved by the much larger entity (Nike) which is likewise enslaved by the PRC. Not hard.

[Play Boban]

Uh, that's not AOC.
Can you read GNSF?

[Play Boban]

Pop should be fired from Team USA for this tbh.

[Pavlov]

Can you read GNSF?I didn't get to the second page.

What's your other screen name?

[RGMCSE]

:lol

Q: What are you doing about China?

A: CHINESE HACKERS EXIST


I dominated you like trump dominated little boy Kerr and pop.

[Pavlov]

I dominated you like trump dominated little boy Kerr and pop.:lol you avoided the actual question just like Trump did.

Pussy move tbh.

[RGMCSE]

:lol you avoided the actual question just like Trump did.

Pussy move tbh.

I answered every question with direct poignant answers unlike pop and Kerr.

[Pavlov]

I answered every question with direct poignant answers

:lol

Q: What are you doing about China?

A: CHINESE HACKERS EXIST

[Play Boban]

I didn't get to the second page.

What's your other screen name?
Pavlov

[Play Boban]

I dominated you like trump dominated little boy Kerr and pop.
:lmao

[Pavlov]

PavlovThe best part is the dishonesty from everyone trying to whine about hypocrisy.:lol

[cd98]

It’ll be fun the next time Pop condescendingly wonders how people are not as enlightened as him on some domestic issue and someone asks him is it bad to torture political dissidents by forcing them into slave labor or force them to give up vital organs. He’ll say duh, and then they can ask him what he thinks about what China is doing to it’s dissidents and he’ll pass without saying the C word. He’s lost all moral high ground by cowering to China. Either you believe in everyone’s humanity or you don’t believe in anyone’s humanity.

[Pavlov]

It’ll be fun the next time Pop condescendingly wonders how people are not as enlightened as him on some domestic issue and someone asks him is it bad to torture political dissidents by forcing them into slave labor or force them to give up vital organs. He’ll say duh, and then they can ask him what he thinks about what China is doing to it’s dissidents and he’ll pass without saying the C word. He’s lost all moral high ground by cowering to China. Either you believe in everyone’s humanity or you don’t believe in anyone’s humanity.:lol your press conference fantasies

Posted from your Chinese phone; you really cared about the humanity of the kids putting it together.

[cd98]

:lol your press conference fantasies

Posted from your Chinese phone; you really cared about the humanity of the kids putting it together.

I’m not afraid to criticize China. Pop is. And you defend China by justifying his silence.

[Pavlov]

I’m not afraid to criticize China. Pop is. And you defend China by justifying his silence.You bought the phone. You support and defend China by living high off their laborers. You justify everything China does with your actions.