Game Thread: Spurs @ Heat - Oct. 8, 2019 @ 6:30 PM CT - Preseason Game #2

[timvp]

It looks like the Heat are televising this game so no jumbotron feed tonight, boys :danceclub

[Beartrucci]

It looks like the Heat are televising this game so no jumbotron feed tonight, boys :danceclub

Great news! :bobo

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/flag.gif

[Mugen]

If somebody wants to PM me a link to a stream when available , that'd be cool tbh

[Cklbmk]

If somebody wants to PM me a link to a stream when available , that'd be cool tbh

Just check the /r/nba discord server https://discord.gg/ZzK7st they post them all in their stream channel

[BatManu20]

Trey Lyles out tonight. “Rest” lol

[Dex]

Trey Lyles out tonight. “Rest” lol

Really weird...kid hasn't played a single minute yet. He must really be busting his ass in practice :rolleyes

[BWS-1994]

Who else out tonight?

[timvp]

Trey Lyles out tonight. “Rest” lol


Really weird...kid hasn't played a single minute yet. He must really be busting his ass in practice :rolleyes

I'm assuming Lyles came to camp out of shape and the Spurs are running him ragged as a result. Otherwise, how could sitting out the first two preseason games for rest make sense?

Not a good start for him...

[8FOR!3]

Any idea if this game is gonna be on league pass?

[baseline bum]

If somebody wants to PM me a link to a stream when available , that'd be cool tbh

redtube.com

[DPG21920]

I'm assuming Lyles came to camp out of shape and the Spurs are running him ragged as a result. Otherwise, how could sitting out the first two preseason games for rest make sense?

Not a good start for him...

:lmao giving this guy ANY 2nd year guaranteed money. Got absolutely fleeced by Rich again.

[DPG21920]

Any idea if this game is gonna be on league pass?

I believe it is. But if you live in SA that would be blacked out.

[jermaine]

Can you watch it on league pass tonight?

[Beartrucci]

Can you watch it on league pass tonight?

Says “LP” for game on nba.com

[8FOR!3]

Ahh nice, no I live in SC now so I should get the game.

[r0drig0lac]

Jeff McDonald
@JMcDonald_SAEN
Basketball news! Pop says Trey Lyles, who has been dealing with a respiratory illness, is the only player not available in Miami. Also mentioned a desire to see a lot of Lonnie Walker IV tonight.

[Beartrucci]

Jeff McDonald
@JMcDonald_SAEN
Basketball news! Pop says Trey Lyles, who has been dealing with a respiratory illness, is the only player not available in Miami. Also mentioned a desire to see a lot of Lonnie Walker IV tonight.

Good news for those of us that chose Lonnie for game high in points tonight :hat

Looking forward to seeing him get a lot of minutes

[r0drig0lac]

Jeff McDonald
@JMcDonald_SAEN
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Spurs starters: Murray, Forbes, DeRozan, Aldridge, Poeltl

[Arcadian]

Anyone else chuckle at the name Duncan Robinson? He has the best two Spurs in history in his name. :lol

[FkLA]

PM me the link timvp

Also fuck Pop for demoting White.

[ace3g]

Will DeRozan hit a 3 tonight?

[ace3g]

PnR between Rozan and LMA - LMA hits 3 from top of the key.

[Leetonidas]

LA starting the game with a 3 again

[FkLA]

LA starting the game with a 3 again

link?

[davi78239]

Tv?

[Leetonidas]

Lot of shots for Poeltl already

[Leetonidas]

link?

Post #5 in this thread breh

[BillMc]

Anyone with a link please?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/status/1181718468388765696

[joeyjfive]

Dejounte with the good defense and For es with the great box out.

[Leetonidas]

All yall asking for the links - post #5 in this thread

[NASpurs]

Timmy's hair :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Beartrucci]

Link #2 on rojadire.com working for me on my laptop. Not sure about adware etc., but I didn’t have to deal with many pop ups. Good quality stream too

[FkLA]

Post #5 in this thread breh

my nigga :tu

for everyone else to lazy to find it like I was:
http://nba4free.com/stream/live2/

[emanueldavidginobili]

Also on NBA League Pass FYI

[NASpurs]

I have no problems with Mills if he's coming in with White. If he's coming in with Beli or playing alongside Forbes... yikes.

[FkLA]

best PG on the team in :tu

Poop running multiple plays for his pet wombat already :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

DISGUSTING that Marco is coming in before LW...

[Beartrucci]

The hell was that hook shot Lma :lol

[spurraider21]

best PG on the team in :tu
patty?

[NASpurs]

The hell was that hook shot Lma :lol

Looks like he hasn't seen a basketball in five months.

[TimD]

Patty has that 2014 energy from the get go tonight. Hangover from the summer?

[KDKSpurs24]

DISGUSTING that Marco is coming in before LW...

[Leetonidas]

White bricking wide open layups. Smh

[Beartrucci]

Man White is really off his game

[r0drig0lac]

Mills and Marco = 0 defense

[Leetonidas]

Lol at "dion time." so iso dribble then long jumper at the end of the shot clock? Sounds like harden time :lol

[spurraider21]

Mills White and Marco = 0 defense
gotta get all defensive team dejounte back out there

[BillMc]

my nigga :tu

for everyone else to lazy to find it like I was:
http://nba4free.com/stream/live2/

Many thanks.

[Beartrucci]

So what happened to Pop wanting to see a lot of Lonnie? Maybe he was talking about the second half

[TimD]

Patty has that 2014 energy from the get go tonight. Hangover from the summer?

Nevermind:rolleyes

[spurraider21]

are we even sure white is good enough to be a bench combo guard? might want to give weatherspoon a look tbh

[NASpurs]

Whoever guessed Poeltl to be the leading scorer... you deserve more money.

[SPURt]

Damn Herro

[r0drig0lac]

Lonnie!!!

[NASpurs]

The All Predator squad out there. Should had kept Patty in to complete the look.

[Beartrucci]

There he is. Is Carrole 77?

nvm yea that’s him

[FkLA]

way to fuck with White's confidence, Pop

you fucking faggot

[Beartrucci]

Damn Hero can ball

[NASpurs]

Remember when there were trade rumors about Marco getting traded during the summer? Good times.

[Leetonidas]

way to fuck with White's confidence, Pop

you fucking faggot

:lol I hope white isn't that much of a mental midget

[8FOR!3]

Herro is killing it. We need to clean up on the turnovers and rebound better.

[Dex]

way to fuck with White's confidence, Pop

you fucking faggot

Maybe White should stop playing like he is afraid to shoot the ball

Oh right...that's Pops fault :rolleyes

[KDKSpurs24]

Get Marco out of the damn game!!

[D-Wade]

Herro is legit tbh

[spurraider21]

way to fuck with White's confidence, Pop

you fucking faggot
:lmao white shits the bed on both ends and goes back to the bench, and you are outraged

[Dex]

Whoever guessed Poeltl to be the leading scorer... you deserve more money.

Apparently he has been working on some post offense in the summer, so lets hope that it translates.

We don't need him to score 20 a game or anything, but being more than a threat off wide-open dunks would be nice.

[Dex]

:lmao white shits the bed on both ends and goes back to the bench, and you are outraged


:cry POP DID IT :cry

[GusT15]

Maybe White should stop playing like he is afraid to shoot the ball

Oh right...that's Pops fault :rolleyes

Shoot the ball? The way he missed that lay up he looked scared to even hold the ball.

I dunno wtf is wrong with him but he should stop overthinking everything and just play ball.

[Beartrucci]

Ugly bullshit shot by Adebayo

[FkLA]

:lmao white shits the bed on both ends and goes back to the bench, and you are outraged

Both ends? Are you blind?

[NASpurs]

Tyler Herro can't help but shit on the scrubs that are Forbes and Belinelli.

[Leetonidas]

Carroll didn't do anything particularly noticeable but man it's nice to have another dude his size on the perimeter. Pondexter and Cunningham were a fuckin joke

[spurraider21]

Both ends? Are you blind?
yes. no.

[BatManu20]

Great block by D-White

[Spurs4#5]

It’s too bad this is game 7 of the nba finals and not game game 2 of the preseason.

[Spurs4#5]

It’s too bad this is game 7 of the nba finals and not game game 2 of the preseason

[FkLA]

:cry POP DID IT :cry

Look, it's no secret that White isn't the most confident guy in the world. Even during his Spurs story Pop described him as "unconfident". Not that surprising given his journey to the NBA.

So why is noone acknowledging the fact that instead of helping build his confidence, Pop has done things that have negatively affected it? They bend over backwards to protect psyche of career loser in DeRozan but give a big fuck you to a promising young player.

[KDKSpurs24]

I know this is preseason but it seems like the Heat can finish anywhere between 3-6 in the East with this versatility and defense. Just depends on their health because they’ve had the worst luck with injuries in the league the last few seasons.

[Leetonidas]

Jesus man again with the missed FTs

[Genovaswitness]

ONE (1) POINT AT THE HALF FOR WHITE

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA


AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH


CUT THIS FUCKING LOSERRRRRRR POP!!!!!!

[SpursDynasty85]

Another ridiculous TO by White. He needs to shore this stuff up.

[GusT15]

White has the Fultz? He forgot how to play?

[Leetonidas]

Eh, white can suck it up all he wants in the preseason but dude needs to get over these yips before the season begins

[Dex]

So why is noone acknowledging the fact that instead of helping build his confidence, Pop has done things that have negatively affected it?

What has Pop done to negatively affect it, other than benching him in Game 7 last year when he obviously didn't come ready to play?

If that's enough to break White's confidence, he ain't gonna survive the NBA. Just because he had a good rookie season doesn't mean he doesn't have to continue to prove that he deserves to be on the floor...and he's looked like shit so far in the preseason and didn't really stand out with Team USA either despite being gifted a spot.

I like White and want him to succeed...but the coaching staff can't do that for him.

[jbspurs]

White thinks he is better than he actually is, he is careless with the ball now.

[TimDunkem]

What has Pop done to negatively affect it, other than benching him in Game 7 last year when he obviously didn't come ready to play?

If that's enough to break White's confidence, he ain't gonna survive the NBA. Just because he had a good rookie season doesn't mean he doesn't have to continue to prove that he deserves to be on the floor...and he's looked like shit so far in the preseason and didn't really stand out with Team USA either despite being gifted a spot.

I like White and want him to succeed...but the coaching staff can't do that for him.
Careful. Some in here think he really deserved that spot.

[J_Paco]

Maybe White should stop playing like he is afraid to shoot the ball

Oh right...that's Pops fault :rolleyes

Yeah, his inability to get by his man one - on - one (weak first - step) and passivity are gonna still be a hindrance. SMDH

We need him to step up and take minutes & PG duties away from Patty. Still looks unsure and uneven with his play.


But, forgot that's all Pop's fault and his really a max - salary player & better than Jamal Murray.:lol:lol:lol

[Dex]

Careful. Some in here think he really deserved that spot.

I'm not saying he didn't earn it...but he also got helped by a dozen or so players dropping out late or getting injured.

That's not on White, he made on the most of his opportunity...but let's not act like he outplayed everybody to get there.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, his inability to get by his man one - on - one (weak first - step) and passivity are gonna still be a hindrance. SMDH

We need him to step up and take minutes & PG duties away from Patty. Still looks unsure and uneven with his play.


But, forgot that's all Pop's fault and his really a max - salary player & better than Jamal Murray.:lol:lol:lol

His ceiling is Delonte West, tbh.

[FkLA]

What has Pop done to negatively affect it, other than benching him in Game 7 last year when he obviously didn't come ready to play?

If that's enough to break White's confidence, he ain't gonna survive the NBA. Just because he had a good rookie season doesn't mean he doesn't have to continue to prove that he deserves to be on the floor...and he's looked like shit so far in the preseason and

How about demoting him for a guy that never had as good of a season as he had last season? How about at least not starting him alongside Murray? Not everybody is going to handle being a 6th man like Manu did. Part of being a good leader, and something Pop is really good at, is understanding players' individual personalities. Ego wise, White can handle being a 6th man no problems but confidence wise? How does he not realize that will negatively affect him when he himself describes White as "unconfident"?

White won't struggle like this at all times. Only an idiot would think it would affect him to that extent. I think it's possible that it can impact the player he ultimately becomes though.


didn't really stand out with Team USA either despite being gifted a spot.

Yeah, fuck off.

[J_Paco]

Look, it's no secret that White isn't the most confident guy in the world. Even during his Spurs story Pop described him as "unconfident". Not that surprising given his journey to the NBA.

So why is noone acknowledging the fact that instead of helping build his confidence, Pop has done things that have negatively affected it? They bend over backwards to protect psyche of career loser in DeRozan but give a big fuck you to a promising young player.

Cause he still hasn't proven to be a consistent threat on offense and Murray has more upside as a starter and player in general.

White is soon going to be 25, if he isn't already, and doesn't have much more development left (even if he's a late bloomer). He needs to be more assertive and aggressive on offense, while you need to stop scapegoating with this bullshit about it being "Pop's fault."

[FkLA]

BTW for the last fucking time. The entire team outside of one or two guys didn't come ready to play in Game 7. Still have yet to hear a good explanation for why everyone else except White was allowed to play through it and contribute to the failed second half comeback.

[FkLA]

Cause he still hasn't proven to be a consistent threat on offense and Murray has more upside as a starter and player in general.

White is soon going to be 25, if he isn't already, and doesn't have much more development left (even if he's a late bloomer). He needs to be more assertive and aggressive on offense, while need to stop scapegoating with this bullshit about it being "Pop's fault."

shut up faggot

[J_Paco]

His ceiling is Delonte West, tbh.

I think he's a little more talented than Delonte was. His ceiling is a poor man's Manu but he needs to be more assertive and aggressive on offense. All this passivity is only going to get him benched and the Spurs moving on to the next prospects (Weatherspoon & Walker IV), TBH.

[Dex]

How about demoting him for a guy that never had as good of a season as he had last season? How about at least not starting him alongside Murray? Not everybody is going to handle being a 6th man like Manu did. Part of being a good leader, and something Pop is really good at, is understanding players' individual personalities. Ego wise, White can handle being a 6th man no problems but confidence wise? How does he not realize that will negatively affect him when he himself describes White as "unconfident"?

White won't struggle like this at all times. Only an idiot would think it would affect him to that extent. I think it's possible that it can impact the player he ultimately becomes though.



Yeah, fuck off.

Listen, man. I want White to succeed just like you do, because that is only going to benefit the Spurs and that's really all I care about. But you seem to be putting a lot of eggs in his basket when he really only flashed star potential a few times last season. And the only reason he got that spot last season was because Murray got injured. Wouldn't it also be unfair to demote Murray who has seemingly done everything right, been the more vocal leader, and was the youngest-ever player to be elected to All NBA Defense?

As a professional athlete, your coach saying you are playing "unconfident" should light a fire under your ass...especially when he is still giving you all the opportunities to succeed. It's not like he has stuck White in the doghouse by any means.

Do you think Pop didn't get on Tim or Tony or Manu in the same way? Hell, Pop used to treat Parker like his fucking whipping boy, and Parker used it as motivation.

I'm not saying Pop's approach is always perfect, but I also expect White to be able to succeed without being coddled. If not, he is probably not suited for the Spurs and probably won't last long in the league because he isn't going to get any more handouts than the Spurs staff has already given him.

[J_Paco]

shut up faggot:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:depressed:depressed:dep ressed

:lol:lmao:lmao:lmao

I want White to succeed, but your hard - on for him is beyond ridiculous.

:lmao:lmao

[Leetonidas]

Ah, bricking soft jumpers and down double digits most of the game. There's the current spurs I know :cry

[r0drig0lac]

agressive Murray

[KDKSpurs24]

Listen, man. I want White to succeed just like you do, because that is only going to benefit the Spurs and that's really all I care about. But you seem to be putting a lot of eggs in his basket when he really only flashed star potential a few times last season. And the only reason he got that spot last season was because Murray got injured. Wouldn't it also be unfair to demote Murray who has seemingly done everything right, been the more vocal leader, and was the youngest-ever player to be elected to All NBA Defense?

As a professional athlete, your coach saying you are playing "unconfident" should light a fire under your ass...especially when he is still giving you all the opportunities to succeed. It's not like he has stuck White in the doghouse by any means.

Do you think Pop didn't get on Tim or Tony or Manu in the same way? Hell, Pop used to treat Parker like his fucking whipping boy, and Parker used it as motivation.

I'm not saying Pop's approach is always perfect, but I also expect White to be able to succeed without being coddled. If not, he is probably not suited for the Spurs and probably won't last long in the league because he isn't going to get any more handouts than the Spurs staff has already given him.
Very well said.

[Down Under]

If I see Mills take 1 more shot a foot inside the 3 point line, I'm gonna lose it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Uuuuhhhh

Is there seriously going to be no one on the team who shoots 3s?

[KDKSpurs24]

My goodness Mills sure hogs the ball if he gets to touch it

[Leetonidas]

Sucks that this is gonna be another year Pop over plays Mills when he's the worst guard on the roster and Forbes is already a better version of him anyway. This fucker is still going to be the first guard off the bench and hovering around 30mpg :pctoss

[FkLA]

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:depressed:depressed:depressed

:lol:lmao:lmao:lmao

I want White to succeed, but your hard - on for him is beyond ridiculous.

:lmao:lmao

You think JMurray is hot shit. You have no credibility and aren't worth replying to anymore. Time will prove you wrong.


Listen, man. I want White to succeed just like you do, because that is only going to benefit the Spurs and that's really all I care about. But you seem to be putting a lot of eggs in his basket when he really only flashed star potential a few times last season. And the only reason he got that spot last season was because Murray got injured. Wouldn't it also be unfair to demote Murray who has seemingly done everything right, been the more vocal leader, and was the youngest-ever player to be elected to All NBA Defense?

Different personalities. Noone will ever describe IB as "unconfident". Even so, start them both and stagger their minutes throughout the game if need be. There's better ways to handle it.


As a professional athlete, your coach saying you are playing "unconfident" should light a fire under your ass...especially when he is still giving you all the opportunities to succeed. It's not like he has stuck White in the doghouse by any means.

Pretty sure Pop meant he has an "unconfident" personality. Wasn't a specific shot at his play.


Do you think Pop didn't get on Tim or Tony or Manu in the same way? Hell, Pop used to treat Parker like his fucking whipping boy, and Parker used it as motivation.

I'm not saying Pop's approach is always perfect, but I also expect White to be able to succeed without being coddled. If not, he is probably not suited for the Spurs and probably won't last long in the league because he isn't going to get any more handouts than the Spurs staff has already given him.

Again, you're bringing up different personalities.

Noone is saying White needs to be coddled. Funny how they have no problems doing it for DeRozan though. Also not sure WTF you mean by handouts/gifted spots btw. That's BS, imo. Bottom line the Spurs can do more to help White's confidence...not sure why that is so hard to acknowledge for those of you that want White to "do as well as I want him to do".

[GusT15]

Sucks that this is gonna be another year Pop over plays Mills when he's the worst guard on the roster and Forbes is already a better version of him anyway. This fucker is still going to be the first guard off the bench and hovering around 30mpg :pctoss

I highly doubt Mills will play more than Forbes this year but Bryn is currently holding his thigh on the bench,maybe he strained a muscle.

[TimmyBuckets]

Hyped for Murray. Other than that. this team is trash.

[Beartrucci]

Did Rudy look this slow last year?

[GusT15]

Did Rudy look this slow last year?

Neither this slow nor this out of shape.

[Light]

Dejounte walked back to the locker room

[3&D_TBH]

Is he injured? I’m not seeing anything on Twitter.

[SpursDynasty85]

Did Rudy look this slow last year?

Safe to say Rudy took it a bit easy this offseason after the contract and basically 2 straight years of rehab. He will get in playing shape soon.

[poopbox]

Rudy playing like both his legs have bear traps on them

White playing the worst basketball I have seen him play and letting dion waiters go around him like he's not even there

[DC23]

3 point field goal attempts through three quarters

Spurs: 9
Heat: 25

Can't expect to contend in games without 3 point shooting. Spurs need to be conservatively attempting 20-25 3 pointers per game.

[SpursDynasty85]

Rudy playing like both his legs have bear traps on them

White playing the worst basketball I have seen him play and letting dion waiters go around him like he's not even there

Rudy I understand. Dude is old and will need to get in shape. White on the other hand is very frustrating. He has really bulked up but looks much slower and his shot still not hitting yet.

[J_Paco]

You think JMurray is hot shit. You have no credibility and aren't worth replying to anymore. Time will prove you wrong.



Different personalities. Noone will ever describe IB as "unconfident". Even so, start them both and stagger their minutes throughout the game if need be. There's better ways to handle it.



Pretty sure Pop meant he has an "unconfident" personality. Wasn't a specific shot at his play.



Again, you're bringing up different personalities.

Noone is saying White needs to be coddled. Funny how they have no problems doing it for DeRozan though. Also not sure WTF you mean by handouts/gifted spots btw. That's BS, imo. Bottom line the Spurs can do more to help White's confidence...not sure why that is so hard to acknowledge for those of you that want White to "do as well as I want him to do".

Yeah, sure. You are just an idiot dickriding Derrick who still has a lot room for improvement.

"Duh. I'd give Derrick the max in a heartbeat. Duh" LOLOLOLOLOL

And he continued to shit the bed in the 2nd half, too. LMAO

But, for real whatever is going on hopefully he can get out of this funk. The Spurs need him to be good if they want a chance at a playoff berth. I pray these two terrible games aren't indicative of his effort all season (they probably aren't).

And Spurs fans have warped concept of what "shitty" team looks like. The Suns, Wizards and Knicks are "shitty" teams. The Spurs are a middling team until or if one of their young players really breaks out.

[SpurPadre]

Murray is fine. Why are people stirring shit up?

[Dennis the Menace]

It’s going to be a loooooong season. This roster and system is trash

[poopbox]

I am just watching Metu and boy is he a trainwreck on both ends of the floor...

[itzsoweezee]

All you people saying this team is not a first round knockout, you better not disappear you clowns. All you people riding DDR, this is your team. Congrats

[itzsoweezee]

3 point field goal attempts through three quarters

Spurs: 9
Heat: 25

Can't expect to contend in games without 3 point shooting. Spurs need to be conservatively attempting 20-25 3 pointers per game.

This team made zero adjustments in the off-season. Lol. If they're timid about shooting 3s in the preseason, no way in hell they're shooting then when the games count

[TimDunkem]

Sucks that this is gonna be another year Pop over plays Mills when he's the worst guard on the roster and Forbes is already a better version of him anyway. This fucker is still going to be the first guard off the bench and hovering around 30mpg :pctoss

Gotta justify that 14 mill somehow.

[SpurPadre]

:lol People cliff-jumping after Game 2 of the preseason with our best players still healthy.

[Light]

Is he injured? I’m not seeing anything on Twitter.

It's probably nothing. He seemed to be walking okay, but he was followed by someone that looked like training staff.

[Genovaswitness]

WHITE STILL HAS ONE POINT LOL

STILL BITCH MADE AND SHOOK LOL

[TimDunkem]

This team made zero adjustments in the off-season. Lol. If they're timid about shooting 3s in the preseason, no way in hell they're shooting then when the games count

B...b...b..but Murray who can't shoot is back, and we have DeMarre Carroll now! Lonnie Walker! We got slightly better for sure. Good thing no one else in the league improved or we might just be a painfully mediocre team!...Wait.

[Chomag]

Perhaps we should just face the fact that the Spurs system and ways is to old and tired now and the NBA has passed it by. Things won't change as long as Pop is still at the helm as he is stuck in his ways.

[TimDunkem]

:lol People cliff-jumping after Game 2 of the preseason with our best players still healthy.

Things literally look the same with this team.

[FkLA]

Yeah, sure. You are just an idiot dickriding Derrick who still has a lot room for improvement.

"Duh. I'd give Derrick the max in a heartbeat. Duh" LOLOLOLOLOL

And he continued to shit the bed in the 2nd half, too. LMAO

But, for real whatever is going on hopefully he can get out of this funk. The Spurs need him to be good if they want a chance at a playoff berth. I pray these two terrible games aren't indicative of his effort all season (they probably aren't).

And Spurs fans have warped concept of what "shitty" team looks like. The Suns, Wizards and Knicks are "shitty" teams. The Spurs are a middling team until or if one of their young players really breaks out.

Don't be a faggot by bringing up an obvious joke post about giving him the supermax. JMurray sucks too.

It's so obvious that it's a confidence thing right now. He was efficient and in control all of last season. His AST/TO ratio and midrange jumper was solid. He was much more aggressive with taking and making threes. He didn't magically lose all that ability overnight. He'll snap out of it, but again I don't understand why people that want him to succeed wouldn't want the Spurs to help him out with his confidence more. He's not reaching his full potential without helping him get rid of that "unconfident" label that Pop mentioned.

[cool cat]

I'll just say the Heat commentators are really solid.

[Dennis the Menace]

Perhaps we should just face the fact that the Spurs system and ways is to old and tired now and the NBA has passed it by. Things won't change as long as Pop is still at the helm as he is stuck in his ways.

Fans that understand the game at a high level have been saying this for the past several years. Pop should’ve retired with Timmy. Just like he said he would.

[TimDunkem]

Perhaps we should just face the fact that the Spurs system and ways is to old and tired now and the NBA has passed it by. Things won't change as long as Pop is still at the helm as he is stuck in his ways.

Is it really the system though and not the front office? They're the ones who decided to build around 2pt shooting chokers and abandoned everything (that was in their control) that made them contenders from 2011-2015.

[SpurPadre]

Things literally look the same with this team.

Except we finally have our best PG back healthy. There are obvious concerns but it's still way too early to consider this a lost season already.

[Russ]

Weatherspoon looks awful good . . .

[TimDunkem]

Except we finally have our best PG back healthy. There are obvious concerns but it's still way too early to consider this a lost season already.

You realize just about every other team improved too, right? An incremental improvement just leaves us where we were last year, and that's an 8th or possibly 7th seed at best.

[FkLA]

Except we finally have our best PG back healthy. There are obvious concerns but it's still way too early to consider this a lost season already.

He's over the plantar fascitis he had last year but he might be a little fatigued from FIBA, tbf.

[TimDunkem]

Damn. If White is already fatigued then it's going to be a loooong year. It's not like he didn't have a break after being bounced out of the playoffs in April...

[GAustex]

On the road
Second exhibition game
Keep on pounding the rock and then we will see

[SpurPadre]

You realize just about every other team improved too, right? An incremental improvement just leaves us where we were last year, and that's an 8th or possibly 7th seed at best.

The Dubs lost Durant and will be without Klay for a while. There are no clear cut favorites or dominant teams out there other than Paul George's Clippers and they have that bitch made faggot's load managing shenanigans to deal with. The season is up for grabs, tbh.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It's 2019-2020 and exactly one guy will go off from 3 on a semi-regular basis.

We fucked up.

[Dennis the Menace]

Not even Prime Timmy could carry this roster

[TimDunkem]

The Dubs lost Durant and will be without Klay for a while. There are no clear cut favorites or dominant teams out there other than Paul George's Clippers and they have that bitch made faggot's load managing shenanigans to deal with. The season is up for grabs, tbh.

Yeah, it is, but not for us. Also, as soon as Klay is back that'll be another team better than the Spurs.

[GAustex]

It's 2019-2020 and exactly one guy will go off from 3 on a semi-regular basis.

We fucked up.
Running Davis out might have been and option
Oh well...

[SpursDynasty85]

Damn. If White is already fatigued then it's going to be a loooong year. It's not like he didn't have a break after being bounced out of the playoffs in April...

No way White is fatigued. You can tell he must've done a lot of squats or something because his legs just look heavier even during the World Cup. Hopefully he can get his speed and rhythm back. He played like 12 MPG, ITS DEFINITELY NOT FATIGUE.

[SpurPadre]

Not even Prime Timmy could carry this roster

Prime Manu would, though, if given the chance to start. Prime Manu would murk today's league.

[daslicer]

The Dubs lost Durant and will be without Klay for a while. There are no clear cut favorites or dominant teams out there other than Paul George's Clippers and they have that bitch made faggot's load managing shenanigans to deal with. The season is up for grabs, tbh.

Just calling my shot now but the Warriors are a bunch of liars about Klay's injury due to them needing to sell tickets for their new arena. He's not coming back this year. I have never seen a player comeback from an ACL tear in less than a year ever. Just look at Dejounte, Porzingis. Lavine. All these guys are below the age of 25 and it took them a year or longer to comeback from the injury. Klay is now close to 30 doubt he can have a ridiculous recovery time better than those guys.

[TimDunkem]

It's 2019-2020 and exactly one guy will go off from 3 on a semi-regular basis.

We fucked up.

That's just poor roster construction, tbh.

I mean, fine, if you want to run your offense through chokers with outdated games then okay.

But to fail to surround them with even a couple of truly competent 3pt shooters - and I'm not talking about old, washed up, one-dimensional scrubs like Fatty or Belli - in this league is just fucking inexcusable.

[BillMc]

Luka getting no burn. Pissing me off.

[Collins21]

Except we finally have our best PG back healthy. There are obvious concerns but it's still way too early to consider this a lost season already.

Pay him no mind as soon as the regular season starts and they look good he will disappear.

[SpurPadre]

Just calling my shot now but the Warriors are a bunch of liars about Klay's injury due to them needing to sell tickets for their new arena. He's not coming back this year. I have never seen a player comeback from an ACL tear in less than a year ever. Just look at Dejounte, Porzingis. Lavine. All these guys are below the age of 25 and it took them a year or longer to comeback from the injury. Klay is now close to 30 doubt he can have a ridiculous recovery time better than those guys.

True. He's not coming back this season.

[Degoat]

Good to see pop played belly and mills 15 and 17 minutes while Lonnie only got 11 minutes:bang

[J_Paco]

Except we finally have our best PG back healthy. There are obvious concerns but it's still way too early to consider this a lost season already.

These idiots have nothing better to do than rag on their own "favorite" team. The team needs to clearly play better on both ends, but cliff jumping and complaining because of a bunch of preseason losses is just stupid.

[NASpurs]

Good to see pop played belly and mills 15 and 17 minutes while Lonnie only got 11 minutes:bang

Well then get ready for less minutes during the regular season. Pop loves him some Mills and Beli.

[TimDunkem]

Good to see pop played belly and mills 15 and 17 minutes while Lonnie only got 11 minutes:bang

It's the same shit every year, people...Lonnie won't get big minutes from Pop until it's too late unless he looks like an all-star. His year is likely 2021.

[KDKSpurs24]

I'll just say the Heat commentators are really solid.
They usually always are.

[SpurPadre]

Pay him no mind as soon as the regular season starts and they look good he will disappear.

We can easily be an 8th seed team but I just can't see us missing the playoffs barring injury from Murray, LMA, or DeRozan.

[KDKSpurs24]

Luka getting no burn. Pissing me off.
Yeah that’s pretty ridiculous that he isn’t.

[Dejounte]

Metu earned some playing time today. Quick on his feet and played decent defense.

In limited time, Keldon showed flashes of being a really good player in the future. His movements remind me of a star.

Luka is getting some serious rookie treatment. I wonder if he's not over himself.

Everyone else was forgettable.

I hate seeing Mills play. Such a low ceiling for this team if he continues to play as much as he does.

[daslicer]

These idiots have nothing better to do than rag on their own "favorite" team. The team needs to clearly player better on both end, but cliff jumping and complaining because a bunch of preseason losses is just stupid.

I don't take preseason seriously. It's hard to say how this team is going to look right now. We'll know the first 10-15 regular season games on how good or how bad this team is going to be.

[SpurPadre]

These idiots have nothing better to do than rag on their own "favorite" team. The team needs to clearly player better on both end, but cliff jumping and complaining because a bunch of preseason losses is just stupid.

I still consider the Spurs as a team that makes the playoffs by default. The system still works.

[daslicer]

I still consider the Spurs as a team that makes the playoffs by default. The system still works.

Lamarcus is in great shape which is a plus. If he continues to play at a high level then they will get in the playoffs again.

[NASpurs]

Only way this team can make any headlines this season is by being a top 5-10 defense because it's going to be the same offense as last year in the 3 point shooting era.

[J_Paco]

I don't take preseason seriously. It's hard to say how this team is going to look right now. We'll know the first 10-15 regular season games on how good or how bad this team is going to be.

Shit, even that isn't enough time to indicate how the team will do. Remember, they got blown out two or three times and had a losing or .500 record after ten games last season.

[FkLA]

We can easily be an 8th seed team but I just can't see us missing the playoffs barring injury from Murray, LMA, or DeRozan.

:huh

Didn't they make the playoffs last year with the 2nd best PG on the team out for the year?

[spurraider21]

Look, it's no secret that White isn't the most confident guy in the world. Even during his Spurs story Pop described him as "unconfident". Not that surprising given his journey to the NBA.

So why is noone acknowledging the fact that instead of helping build his confidence, Pop has done things that have negatively affected it? They bend over backwards to protect psyche of career loser in DeRozan but give a big fuck you to a promising young player.
i'm admittedly trolling at times, but your cult-like impulsive need to defend d-white at all costs is a bit comical tbh, just like your impulsive need to shit on murray

i mean seriously... :cry why doesnt pop baby derrick white because he needs to be coddled :cry... smh didnt realize DePression's mental weakness would spread to other players like this

[J_Paco]

Only way this team can make any headlines this season is by being a top 5-10 defense because it's going to be the same offense as last year in the 3 point shooting era.

Um, the offense was in the top half of the league last season. Only the idiots on here that don't want to accept that cry about the offense being "archaic."

The shit defense and inability to win on the road is what doomed last season.

[UZER]

Is it really the system though and not the front office? They're the ones who decided to build around 2pt shooting chokers and abandoned everything (that was in their control) that made them contenders from 2011-2015.

As long as Pop is around, they are one in the same.



Luka getting no burn. Pissing me off.

Don’t you know me by now?

:pop:

[SpurPadre]

Lamarcus is in great shape which is a plus. If he continues to play at a high level then they will get in the playoffs again.

I mean, the guy is past his prime but he dropped 50+ less than a year ago. He's not suddenly going to fall off and can reasonably have one more All-Star season.

[NASpurs]

Um, the offense was in the top half of the league last season. Only the idiots on here that don't want to accept that cry about the offense being "archaic."

The shit defense and inability to win on the road is what doomed last season.

Wow top half in the league!!!! There's no need to improve it I guess!

[SpurPadre]

:huh

Didn't they make the playoffs last year with the best PG on the team out for the year?

Every team save for the Dubs has improved coming into this season. But don't worry, Murray, The Chosen One, will lead the way while White will have another solid season and improve as the season goes along.

[ace3g]

I know it's just preseason but not even one 3-point attempt from DeRozan? Are we going to have this moment during the regular season or have to wait till the playoffs?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65pGOp7qa_s

[daslicer]

I mean, the guy is past his prime but he dropped 50+ less than a year ago. He's not suddenly going to fall off and can reasonably have one more All-Star season.

I feel at his age it's important for him to be in shape. Once you get out of shape around 34-35 that's when you will experience a serious drop off. A good example of this is Shaq falling off of a cliff after the age of 34 due to being out of shape.

[daslicer]

On a side note the Murray vs White shtick by several posters is lame. The Spurs need both players to up their games this year if they want to improve drastically.

[FkLA]

But don't worry, Murray will lead the way.

On instagram? As the "vocal point"?

[tim_duncan_fan]

Here's the thing: the team looks exactly the same. I get that this is the second game of PREASEASON. But I don't see anything that looks like these guys practicing a new wrinkle. Nothing that looks like plays that have been designed over the offseason just to give things a fresh look.

Dummies seriously didn't work on shooting 3s in the offseason, which was THE most obviously necessary thing for them to do, particularly the wings.

Derrick White is a mercurial guy and plays with timidity, despite it just being preseason and despite the entire city of San Antonio giving him the green light to do whatever he wants.

I simply don't understand the mindset. I simply can't fathom that guys aren't chomping at the bit to jump down the throat of the opposition, given how last season went.

It just doesn't make sense.

[FkLA]

i'm admittedly trolling at times, but your cult-like impulsive need to defend d-white at all costs is a bit comical tbh, just like your impulsive need to shit on murray

i mean seriously... :cry why doesnt pop baby derrick white because he needs to be coddled :cry... smh didnt realize DePression's mental weakness would spread to other players like this

Yeah, no shit you're trolling some times.

Serious question though, why do y'all act like building up the confidence of a young player is some uncommon thing across sports? What do you think coaches are doing when they stick with a young QB through growing pains? He's not DD. He showed more balls last season, in what was essentially his rookie year, than DD has his entire career. Still, he's not the most confident guy so help him out some. You can help him without coddling him.

[BillMc]

As long as Pop is around, they are one in the same.




Don’t you know me by now?

:pop:
:lol

[spurraider21]

Yeah, no shit you're trolling some times.

Serious question though, why do y'all act like building up the confidence of a young player is some uncommon thing across sports? What do you think coaches are doing when they stick with a young QB through growing pains? He's not DD. He showed more balls last season, in what was essentially his rookie year, than DD has his entire career. Still, he's not the most confident guy so help him out some. You can help him without coddling him.
i love d-white and want to see him succeed. like it or not, pop has a way about him, and he wants his players to have strong mental fortitude. white showed he was capable of taking over against the nuggets but then receded late in the series, including game 7. i know your point about "how come you aren't holding the other players accountable for not showing up" and the reality is you hold leaders (or guys that are supposed to be leaders) more accountable. people will shit on kobe for the 2004 finals, they're not going to blame devean george for not having stepped up.

white clearly looked like "the guy" early in the series, even ahead of DDR and LMA. and then he went awol. that's mental, not physical. if he's going to panic or fold when there's adversity, then pop is going to pull him.

and its not like pop was yanking him prematurely today. he checked in with 5:38 left in the first quarter, and was subbed out with 9:26 to go in the second. thats a full shift. he checked back in with 4:15 to go and played out the half. it was during the first half when you and i had our little back and forth, so i have no clue what you were complaining about other than your perceived derrick white persecution complex

[FkLA]

i'm admittedly trolling at times, but your cult-like impulsive need to defend d-white at all costs is a bit comical tbh, just like your impulsive need to shit on murray

i mean seriously... :cry why doesnt pop baby derrick white because he needs to be coddled :cry... smh didnt realize DePression's mental weakness would spread to other players like this

BTW last time time I was this passionate about something that most people didn't agree with? Rique not handing the reigns over to Nephew sooner. I ended up being dead on.

[FkLA]

i love d-white and want to see him succeed. like it or not, pop has a way about him, and he wants his players to have strong mental fortitude. white showed he was capable of taking over against the nuggets but then receded late in the series, including game 7. i know your point about "how come you aren't holding the other players accountable for not showing up" and the reality is you hold leaders (or guys that are supposed to be leaders) more accountable. people will shit on kobe for the 2004 finals, they're not going to blame devean george for not having stepped up.

No. I'm not denying that White played like shit the first half of Game 7, or saying that he shouldn't be held accountable for it. My issue is with the fact that most of the guys shit the bed that first half, and they were all allowed to dig themselves out of it except White. Not exactly confidence inspiring.


white clearly looked like "the guy" early in the series, even ahead of DDR and LMA. and then he went awol. that's mental, not physical. if he's going to panic or fold when there's adversity, then pop is going to pull him.

First off, he wasn't Game 7 bad every single game after Game 3. He wasn't spectacular like he was Game 3, but he was steady Games 4-6. It wasn't a panic/fold thing as much as it was the DEN defense focusing on him more and a better defender (Harris) being switched onto him. Game 7 he came out flat footed, but so did the rest of the team. Why didn't Pop pull anyone else?


and its not like pop was yanking him prematurely today. he checked in with 5:38 left in the first quarter, and was subbed out with 9:26 to go in the second. thats a full shift. he checked back in with 4:15 to go and played out the half. it was during the first half when you and i had our little back and forth, so i have no clue what you were complaining about other than your perceived derrick white persecution complex

-benching him Game 7
-essentially saying IB is better than you
-not at least starting him next to IB

Those are the things I have an issue with. Things that don't help the kid with his confidence, imo. I didn't say anything about his minutes.

[timtonymanu]

Here's the thing: the team looks exactly the same. I get that this is the second game of PREASEASON. But I don't see anything that looks like these guys practicing a new wrinkle. Nothing that looks like plays that have been designed over the offseason just to give things a fresh look.

Dummies seriously didn't work on shooting 3s in the offseason, which was THE most obviously necessary thing for them to do, particularly the wings.

Derrick White is a mercurial guy and plays with timidity, despite it just being preseason and despite the entire city of San Antonio giving him the green light to do whatever he wants.

I simply don't understand the mindset. I simply can't fathom that guys aren't chomping at the bit to jump down the throat of the opposition, given how last season went.

It just doesn't make sense.

I mean it shouldn’t be surprising. Pop even said last year that the new formula isn’t basketball anymore. It’s gonna be more of the same this year. He’s gonna want the best players playing the midrange game and it’s also why he’s starting Poeltl next to Aldridge still. Pop is gonna be too stubborn to make his players all practice their 3s.

[timtonymanu]

That's just poor roster construction, tbh.

I mean, fine, if you want to run your offense through chokers with outdated games then okay.

But to fail to surround them with even a couple of truly competent 3pt shooters - and I'm not talking about old, washed up, one-dimensional scrubs like Fatty or Belli - in this league is just fucking inexcusable.

Truth but the team should still get 45+ wins and get knocked out of the 1st round again. :tu

[MannyIsGod]

Look, it's no secret that White isn't the most confident guy in the world. Even during his Spurs story Pop described him as "unconfident". Not that surprising given his journey to the NBA.

So why is noone acknowledging the fact that instead of helping build his confidence, Pop has done things that have negatively affected it? They bend over backwards to protect psyche of career loser in DeRozan but give a big fuck you to a promising young player.


Pop literally took him to China on Team USA and played him to the point that pundtis were asking WTF. You need to just realize that this is not anyone's fault but White at this point. IF he succeeds then great. But acting like the Spurs and Pop have done anything to stop him from succeeding is you not wanting to admit he might not be the 2nd coming that you've been claiming. Its OK.

[acoelho1]

I think we all want White to succeed and feel he has the tools to do so. He did drop 37 pts in a playoff game. Nevertheless, his biggest issue right now is consistency and confidence when things don't go well. It's still only preseason so let's see how it plays out before making any declaration.

[SpurPadre]

I think we all want White to succeed and feel he has the tools to do so. He did drop 37 pts in a playoff game. Nevertheless, his biggest issue right now is consistency and confidence when things don't go well. It's still only preseason so let's see how it plays out before making any declaration.

It's also comforting that Team USA coaching staff acknowledged that he can be quite solid and has some clear skills to benefit a team.

[FkLA]

Pop literally took him to China on Team USA and played him to the point that pundtis were asking WTF. You need to just realize that this is not anyone's fault but White at this point. IF he succeeds then great. But acting like the Spurs and Pop have done anything to stop him from succeeding is you not wanting to admit he might not be the 2nd coming that you've been claiming. Its OK.

Uh, he stood out on the Select Team and was solid in China in limited action. I don't remember any reputable pundits saying anything. Not sure wtf you're on about. You're like the third person that's insinuated that that spot was a gift from Pop. He earned it (aided by injuries/dropouts of course).

They're not doing a good job helping him with his confidence. They can do more for him. That's it. Never claimed they're actively stopping him from succeeding or that White can't do more to help himself.

[daslicer]

I think we all want White to succeed and feel he has the tools to do so. He did drop 37 pts in a playoff game. Nevertheless, his biggest issue right now is consistency and confidence when things don't go well. It's still only preseason so let's see how it plays out before making any declaration.

Consistency I think it's the hardest thing for a young player to overcome and master. That was #2's biggest issue here up until the 2017 playoffs. Hard to say if he will figure it out. It could take him a year to a few years to get over the mental hump or he might not ever be able to do it.

[FkLA]

But you're right, he won't have the breakout year that a lot of us here on ST, as well as a lot of pundits were expecting if he's treated like a role player. Part of the evolution is being empowered by your head coach. Forget the Big 3, be the Big 1. Or jumping up and down yelling at Parker to give Nephew the ball. Haven't seen anything like that for White.

[daslicer]

But you're right, he won't have the breakout year that a lot of us here on ST, as well as a lot of pundits were expecting if he's treated like a role player. Part of the evolution is being empowered by your head coach. Forget the Big 3, be the Big 1. Or jumping up and down yelling at Parker to give Nephew the ball. Haven't seen anything like that for White.

What is your expectations for him in year 2 if Pop does coddle him and does everything to pamper him? Do you think he can be playing at an all-star level?

[DPG21920]

One of my biggest concerns is leadership. We’ve seen that while guys like Mills are amazing people, if you aren’t a good player you can’t be a leader. Especially if you get worked over on defense

This team seems a bit listless. There’s going to be a ton on Murray’s shoulders to be the Alpha and leader and not sure that’s fair.

Hopefully there is a spark this year and Murray is up to the task because it looks like it’s all on him in that regard.

[DPG21920]

And, if pop sticks to the same things with Mills/Beli getting minutes other than rare spot minutes this team will see no improvement on defense; just asking Dejounte to cover up everything is not enough. Plus watching those two get destroyed on defense will kill the team. They are loved as teammates but everyone knows their flaws and it’s deflating.

[KobesAchilles]

Takeaways from this meaningless game: absolutely nothing

3 things overall that need to happen for the Spurs to get good again.

Patty and Marco cannot play together, ever.
KJ needs some burn at the 3 with Rudy at the 4 to help Rudy with defense.
DeRozan better take and make fucking 3 pointers (especially during preseason which is a practice game anyways)

[J_Paco]

But you're right, he won't have the breakout year that a lot of us here on ST, as well as a lot of pundits were expecting if he's treated like a role player. Part of the evolution is being empowered by your head coach. Forget the Big 3, be the Big 1. Or jumping up and down yelling at Parker to give Nephew the ball. Haven't seen anything like that for White.

Wow, you really are delusional if you think White has a Nephew (or even Parker/Ginobili) like ceiling.

He isn't going to be a superstar in the NBA. He could make an all - star appearance or two but he'll really need to pick up his play for that to happen.

[UZER]

Takeaways from this meaningless game: absolutely nothing

3 things overall that need to happen for the Spurs to get good again.

Patty and Marco cannot play together, ever.
KJ needs some burn at the 3 with Rudy at the 4 to help Rudy with defense.
DeRozan better take and make fucking 3 pointers (especially during preseason which is a practice game anyways)

Pffft.

:pop:

[timtonymanu]

Takeaways from this meaningless game: absolutely nothing

3 things overall that need to happen for the Spurs to get good again.

Patty and Marco cannot play together, ever.
KJ needs some burn at the 3 with Rudy at the 4 to help Rudy with defense.
DeRozan better take and make fucking 3 pointers (especially during preseason which is a practice game anyways)

The Patty/Marco pairing has always been a no-no but yet here we are still wondering why Pop even plays them together

[J_Paco]

And, if pop sticks to the same things with Mills/Beli getting minutes other than rare spot minutes this team will see no improvement on defense; just asking Dejounte to cover up everything is not enough. Plus watching those two get destroyed on defense will kill the team. They are loved as teammates but everyone knows their flaws and it’s deflating.

Agreed, which is why I was hoping beyond hope they could salary dump one or both. Pop is just too willing to go back to the same, old well even when it has run dry.


Takeaways from this meaningless game: absolutely nothing

3 things overall that need to happen for the Spurs to get good again.

Patty and Marco cannot play together, ever.
KJ needs some burn at the 3 with Rudy at the 4 to help Rudy with defense.
DeRozan better take and make fucking 3 pointers (especially during preseason which is a practice game anyways)


Agreed, on all points. Not sure I understand Pop limiting minutes of Walker IV and DNP'ing Samanic in favor of Hommes & Lawson.

Those two, plus Keldon, should have seen at least 20 minutes each. We need to see if any of them are ready to seriously contribute earlier than expected. Especially, Walker IV who should be being groomed to take Belinelli's spot this season.

[Jsmythe]

Nine minute highlight video for those who missed it:


https://youtu.be/FmwJ3O2ai1k

[phxspurfan]

Nassir Little shittin on bitches while our first rounder is out somewhere eating a SAMAMICH

[gambit1990]

That's just poor roster construction, tbh.

[gambit1990]

don't hold your breath, this roster is DOA.

[gambit1990]

rockets, lakers, jazz, clippers, mavs improve by a wide margin... the spurs' splash was adding trey lyles :lol

morris almost signing was intriguing, guess the spurs can't be blamed with how turned out.

[gambit1990]

if the spurs intend on pinning their future on DDR by resigning him (with no intention of trading him)... then there it's gonna be some yikes basketball.

la won't stick around to keep getting bounced in the POs. and the season before he's a FA, his trade stock won't be higher than it will be this season.

both la and DDR should be shipped out tbh.

[ElNono]

Spurs miss Messina, tbh.... the defense is nowhere near what it used to be...

[Slippy]

I think we all want White to succeed and feel he has the tools to do so. He did drop 37 pts in a playoff game. Nevertheless, his biggest issue right now is consistency and confidence when things don't go well. It's still only preseason so let's see how it plays out before making any declaration.

Whats getting overlooked is those bagging DWhite are assuming he got veins of a Manu Ginibili, come in and just turn it on.

Heres a scoop for you all. There's only one Manu. Coming off from the bench when you're used to being a starter is deflating unless your name is Manu.

Other legit reasons, it's only preseason and derrick could really be fatigued. They played in another time zone and games were every second day. Hes had no breaks at all.Derrick would be in conserve mode right now. That would also be coaches advice.

The biggest concern is still the lack of three. How Demar and DJ going in the department since they starters? Doesnt look promising.

[John B]

if the spurs intend on pinning their future on DDR by resigning him (with no intention of trading him)... then there it's gonna be some yikes basketball.

la won't stick around to keep getting bounced in the POs. and the season before he's a FA, his trade stock won't be higher than it will be this season.

both la and DDR should be shipped out tbh.
I see the same mid-range shots. I don’t know what he worked on this Summer. I know it’s pre-season but Heat opened the margin with our regular guys in there. I mean Patty and Beli still the usual suspect with atrocious defense. Pop better have tricks under his sleeves, coz I’m not seeing anything new.

[monty4329]

Only 13 3pt shots in the whole game. 4 taken by the starters.

[monty4329]

Spurs miss Messina, tbh.... the defense is nowhere near what it used to be...

Becky will set it up.

Ahem....

[John B]

Only 13 3pt shots in the whole game. 4 taken by the starters.
And one by Aldridge, who’s the last one I want to see chucking 3’s.

It’s just pre-season, it’s just pre-seaso, it’s just pre-season :depressed:depressed

[Slippy]

And one by Aldridge, who’s the last one I want to see chucking 3’s.

It’s just pre-season, it’s just pre-seaso, it’s just pre-season :depressed:depressed

Concur wholeheartedly. Spurs using LA to space the floor for DJ and Demar should be the last resort.

[Down Under]

Concur wholeheartedly. Spurs using LA to space the floor for DJ and Demar should be the last resort.
I disagree with this. I want to see Aldridge used as a stretch 5 when he's on the floor with DD. He's the better shooter & DeRozan is better at drawing fouls & playmaking, so makes sense to have the ball in his hands. Hopefully their minutes are staggered as much as possible.

[Slippy]

Team should always go with the higher percentage shot in the post and best inside /out creator on offense. That's LA.

[TimDunkem]

Yay fadeaway 2s!

[FkLA]

Wow, you really are delusional if you think White has a Nephew (or even Parker/Ginobili) like ceiling.

He isn't going to be a superstar in the NBA. He could make an all - star appearance or two but he'll really need to pick up his play for that to happen.

Congratulations on being that idiot that assumes I'm suggesting he has a Nephew type ceiling.

You don't have to be a superstar type player to get empowered by your coaching staff/team. Look at your boy JMurray. He was shooting like 20% those first 7 quarters of the series, but did they pull him? Nah, he was still out there and won Game 2 for them with his 4th Qtr explosion. Look at how they doubled down on him in the off-season with that ridiculous contract extension. I don't think it'll work out for DEN, since I don't believe in JMurray as a player, but they're doing everything right to make the guy feel like he has their full, unwavering support.

Can you honestly say the same about White?

[FkLA]

What is your expectations for him in year 2 if Pop does coddle him and does everything to pamper him? Do you think he can be playing at an all-star level?

Noone is asking for coddling and pampering. You want an answer then ask the question right, faggot.

[SpursDynasty85]

Noone is asking for coddling and pampering. You want an answer then ask the question right, faggot.

White has gotten plenty of opportunity from Pop. Pop treats everyone same on the Spurs but definitely made a point to give White extra confidence by putting him into USA basketball program running as the point gaurd (still believe he should be playing more SG though). Spurs need to develop Murray and Walker IV as well. White is 25 years old. He needs to be ready to go right when he gets in the game, if he is not, it's his fault at this point.

[Truth4sale$]

If Demar goes the preseason without showing off a 3pt shot, I see no reason to keep him. Trade him now, because the Spurs wont go anywhere without spacing the floor. He has value.