Game Thread: Spurs vs. Pelicans - Oct. 13, 2019 @ 3:00 PM CT - Preseason Game #3

[timvp]

Hopefully Zion Williamson plays for entertainment sake. He won't be in San Antonio again until April.

It doesn't look like this game will be televised. That's unlucky as it's the only Pelicans game all season that won't be on TV.

Here's the SpursTalk preview of this game:

https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-pelicans-preview-zion-williamson-debut-san-antonio/

[RC_Drunkford]

Curious to see if the team takes a preseason game serious and is actually able to win

[Leetonidas]

Wow. Fucking bummer. I figured since it was Zion this would be televised for sure :pctoss

[FutureMan]

I wonder if they will continue to shoot 3’s at such a low rate. No team is winning anything these days shooting less than 20 a game.

[monty4329]

I don't get it. Game is not televised: so fans would go to the game??? Like, Spurs honestly believe people would go to a preseason game BECAUSE is not on tv, otherwise they wouldn't buy the tickets?

It's a f. preseason game, you play it to warm up the fans and showcase the product.

[TimDunkem]

I don't get it. Game is not televised: so fans would go to the game??? Like, Spurs honestly believe people would go to a preseason game BECAUSE is not on tv, otherwise they wouldn't buy the tickets?

It's a f. preseason game, you play it to warm up the fans and showcase the product.

The Spurs never televise this shit. Why do we have to discuss this every year? Really...when was the last time the Spurs aired a preseason game?

[FkLA]

Won't there be a jumbotron feed at least?

[tmtcsc]

Curious to see if the team takes a preseason game serious and is actually able to win

What makes you think they haven't taken their first preseason games seriously? With the exception of Kawhi's return game last year, this team hasn't played with heart or enthusiasm.. No one is invested in winning, they are all collecting checks and playing mediocre basketball.

[Yogatti]

What makes you think they haven't taken their first preseason games seriously? With the exception of Kawhi's return game last year, this team hasn't played with heart or enthusiasm.. No one is invested in winning, they are all collecting checks and playing mediocre basketball.

so is Gregg Popob*tch. It starts from the top my dude

[tmtcsc]

so is Gregg Popob*tch. It starts from the top my dude

Agreed. At least he called them out for it last game. This group has no character. Pop, along with RC, is responsible for putting this team together.

[r0drig0lac]

link?

[RC_Drunkford]

What makes you think they haven't taken their first preseason games seriously? With the exception of Kawhi's return game last year, this team hasn't played with heart or enthusiasm.. No one is invested in winning, they are all collecting checks and playing mediocre basketball.

Honestly there have been signs of this since 2017, but they still had Ginobili back then. Ever since he's gone, that's how this team plays. They don't give a 100% everytime and that's on Pop. Hard to be motivated when you play for a coach who makes it harder for you to win than it should be due to his love for an outdated system and his favorite pets.

Is there a stream for this game?

[exstatic]

Wow. Fucking bummer. I figured since it was Zion this would be televised for sure :pctoss

Spurs haven’t televised ANY preseason games in at least 10 years, and probably longer than that.

[r0drig0lac]

Forbes!!!

[Joseph Kony]

Spurs haven’t televised ANY preseason games in at least 10 years, and probably longer than that.

No shit, but figured the Pelicans would be broadcasting it or perhaps even NBA tv or ESPN since they've been showing Zion a lot

[r0drig0lac]

nice start for murray and forbes

[timvp]

Poeltl on Zion? Interesting, considering the Pelicans also have Favors on the court. I guess Pop didn't want Lyles on Zion, which makes sense.

[GB20]

nice start for murray and forbes

Post the link please

[r0drig0lac]

Post the link please

sportszone for google chrome

[Hoffman]

http://www.streameast.live/basketball/new-orleans-pelicans-san-antonio-spurs/

[Leetonidas]

Mills sucking ass per par

[BatManu20]

Smh Patty

[BatManu20]

Ferrari firing at will per par. For better or worse.

[RC_Drunkford]

Mills is in playoff mode. Missed 3 lay ups in a row. Forbes looks like the best player on the entire roster. Poeltl got butterfingers. White with some boneheaded passes and Walker is clearly behind Belinelli in the rotation.

[Leetonidas]

Lyles with a nice and one

[RC_Drunkford]

Poeltl with 4 fouls already in the 2nd quarter :lol Start this guy Pop

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1183480483876917248

[DC23]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1183480483876917248
Exceptional defense :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Murray has to work on his pick and roll passing. He needs to time them better

[Dex]

How did Mills look like Jordan playing for Australia and now looks like terrible just like 3 weeks later?

[r0drig0lac]

Carroll again

[lilbthebasedgod]

Millennial vs Boomer Boomer actually won but they threw it for a tie wow unepic

[timtonymanu]

How did Mills look like Jordan playing for Australia and now looks like terrible just like 3 weeks later?

I didn’t take that tournament into meaning anything when Luis scola looked good over there too

[BillMc]

Any jumbo tron link at least? The earlier one in this thread didn't work for me.

[timtonymanu]

Lol Eric B. “My sources say Mills and Beli get less minutes this year.”

[RC_Drunkford]

Carroll or Gay have to start. Spacing would just be so much better with an additional 3-point shooter on the floor instead of Poeltl who doesn't even have a jump shot. Forbes has been looking like he can become CJ McCollum 2.0

[RC_Drunkford]

Lol Eric B. “My sources say Mills and Beli get less minutes this year.”

lol Eric B. "DeRozan ain't in the Spurs future plans" :lol his source is a random guy on twitter called James Greene

[BillMc]

Okay. I got it. Thanks. :bobo

[BillMc]

Missed the first half. Who has looked good for us?

[Genovaswitness]

watching the cowboys game is white still retarded shook

[Dennis the Menace]

Ginobili & his son with the simba cam

[RC_Drunkford]

Missed the first half. Who has looked good for us?

Forbes and Carroll. Everybody else looks like pure garbage


watching the cowboys game is white still retarded shook

absolutely

[r0drig0lac]

lmao spurs

[BillMc]

Forbes and Carroll. Everybody else looks like pure garbage





THanks.

[Pelicans78]

Go Pels go!

[TimDunkem]

Mills sucking ass per par

Remember the days when Pop would more or less just play the players that perform and not his favorites? Those were the good ol' days...

[NASpurs]

Go Pels go!

[PuzzBeterson]

That mwlli dude woildve been a good addition to this roster

[Dennis the Menace]

Pelicans trailed by 17 points, now they lead by 9 points lol gonna be a loooong year

[Dennis the Menace]

Best thing that can happen this year is a tank

[NASpurs]

At least Pop told off Trump (before the game) and that's all that matters for this organization.

[TimDunkem]

The defense is so damn awful and the usual suspects are slow to defend and rotate...Who the fuck ever saw potential in that stiff Ewwbanks???

[r0drig0lac]

Zion with 22/9 in 80%fg

[r0drig0lac]

At least Pop told off Trump and that's all that matters for this organization.

amem

[BillMc]

Well, at least I'm also a Dolphins fan.

[Pelicans78]

At least Pop told off Trump (before the game) and that's all that matters for this organization.

Social Justice Spurs

[Budkin]

It’s preseason. Who gives a fuck?

[BillMc]

Did Lonnie play today?

[r0drig0lac]

It’s preseason. Who gives a fuck?

Pop, spur fans, etc...

[TimDunkem]

I'll never understand why some of the FO slurpers here never consider trading for picks a good move. Here we are still trotting out shitty mills while he gets destroyed by Walker-Alexander.

[NASpurs]

It’s preseason. Who gives a fuck?

Apparently Pop does when he called them out a few days ago.

[RC_Drunkford]

lol getting blown out by the Pelicans at home :lmao

[Chomag]

I guess Pop is more concerned about the president then working on this team.

[TimDunkem]

It’s preseason. Who gives a fuck?

Our entire team sucks and they've been sucking against marginal talent in a conference that has improved from top to bottom. So, to answer your question, I guess any Spurs fan that wants to see them compete for anything higher than an 8th seed?

[RC_Drunkford]

Apparently Pop does when he called them out a few days ago.

Pop is an idiot. He thinks it's lack of effort when it's really just his players not being talented enough. That's what happens when you value character more than actual basketball skills

[gambit1990]

It’s preseason. Who gives a fuck?
preseason can definitely be irrelevant... with that being said, the roster is undoubtedly concerning and that is the main issue.

[TimDunkem]

Pop is an idiot. He thinks it's lack of effort when it's really just his players not being talented enough. That's what happens when you value character more than actual basketball skills

Still having Patty as the backup PG is evidence enough that Pop has lost the plot.

[NASpurs]

Pop is an idiot. He thinks it's lack of effort when it's really just his players not being talented enough. That's what happens when you value character more than actual basketball skills

I mean, you didn't really need anything else after that first sentence.

[objective]

Samanic must be 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away from getting over himself if he's the 20th man in preseason

[monty4329]

The Spurs never televise this shit. Why do we have to discuss this every year? Really...when was the last time the Spurs aired a preseason game?

True.
Still, things might change. FO might get rid of DDR and televise preseason games.

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs Family saspursFamily
It’s weird how we haven’t seen our two best defenders on the court together this preseason. DJ and DW gotta get some time together


cmon Pop

[RC_Drunkford]

Samanic must be 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away from getting over himself if he's the 20th man in preseason

maybe it's just cause he's younger than everybody else since Pop likes to structure his rotations by age. You know like in the military. Veterans get the benefit of the doubt cause they have been here longer. That's why Belinelli is in front of Walker

[NASpurs]

Samanic must be 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away from getting over himself if he's the 20th man in preseason

By then he can join the #coffeegang and be allowed to order Patty's pumpkin spice latte.

[Budkin]

Samanic must be 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away from getting over himself if he's the 20th man in preseason

Pretty sure he won’t be playing this year.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs Family saspurs (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13586)Family
It’s weird how we haven’t seen our two best defenders on the court together this preseason. DJ and DW gotta get some time together


cmon Pop


No no no no, he will play the Mills/Forbes back court instead with Derrick White at SF. He already did that in this game

[Budkin]

I guess Pop is more concerned about the president then working on this team.

We all should be with the illegal shit he’s pulling.

[RC_Drunkford]

Weatherspoon is a better NBA player than Mills right now

[r0drig0lac]

Weatherspoon is a better NBA player than Mills right now

no doubt

[TimDunkem]

Weatherspoon is a better NBA player than Mills right now

Not really going out on a limb with that one. :lol

[NASpurs]

Weatherspoon is a better NBA player than Mills right now

Yeah but when it comes to Fiba, Patty >>>>>> Weatherspoon.

So checkmate atheists.

[objective]

Spurs Family saspursFamily
It’s weird how we haven’t seen our two best defenders on the court together this preseason. DJ and DW gotta get some time together


cmon Pop

Hard to play Murray and White together when Pop has to find 35-40 minutes a game for Mills and Marco combined.

Mills by himself will get at least 20 minutes. Maybe 25.

[BillMc]

Weatherspoon may have the most impact (small as it is) of any rookie this year. Luka and KJ are bound for Austin.

[GAustex]

Preseason
No need to panic
Yet

[NASpurs]

Preseason
No need to panic
Yet

My expectations are being met. I don't know why everyone is panicking.

[GAustex]

My expectations are being met. I don't know why everyone is panicking.
I am sure Pop has a plan to get winning production out of DDR, Patty and Beli.
Sure I am sure...

[UZER]

At this point, Pop is just a professional troller. He trolls the Prez, and trolls Spursfans to no end.

He gets paid millions for it too.

[Jordan Jackson]

A GM with actual power would've sent Patty and Marco
on there way to prevent a coach - who can't seem to help himself- from playing either of them.

It just should not happen anymore. They have options.

[BillMc]

Tried of glorified practices. Want to lose for real. :lol

[GAustex]

Tried of glorified practices. Want to lose for real. :lol
Patience your time is coming
Soon

[timvp]

Samanic must be 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away from getting over himself if he's the 20th man in preseason

That made me laugh, tbh.

[Budkin]

Weatherspoon is a better NBA player than Mills right now

How can Mills be so bad in the NBA after shining in FIBA? It’s not that much different these days.

[RC_Drunkford]

Imagine a coach who would play Walker and Weatherspoon instead of Mills and Belinelli. How good would that defense be? And you could actually trade those 2 for somebody like Marvin Williams and further improve the team. Instead we will see the Mills/Belinelli back court give up 20 points in one quarter, then have Pop call a time out and play the same line up again until they give up another 10 points and the game is out of reach

[Ice009]

Weatherspoon may have the most impact (small as it is) of any rookie this year. Luka and KJ are bound for Austin.

The problem is Weatherspoon can't spend much time with the team, can he? He's signed to a g-league contract, so doesn't that mean he can only play a limited amount of games or time with the team?

[RC_Drunkford]

How can Mills be so bad in the NBA after shining in FIBA? It’s not that much different these days.

he said it himself: there's no pressure to perform for him in the NBA

[tim_duncan_fan]

Lonnie Walker is already our 4th best offensive player at least and the guy is never going to play. Can't even get in early in a preseason game. Meanwhile, DeRozan is a dumbass who can beat his man but still prefers to shoot 15-footers after doing so.

Don't even get me started on LaMarcus' unintelligent-ass playstyle.

Derrick White literally refuses to do anything but would probably be a great player if a more aggressive personality was in his body.

We are going to do nothing this year besides maybe accidentallying ourselves out of a lottery pick.

Just not enough guys that are good at basketball on this team and Pop over plays the worst of them.

Also, the board has a few two many dumbass President Rapester-Shuckster fans.

This sucks.

[FkLA]

Lol Eric B. “My sources say Mills and Beli get less minutes this year.”

"They have already had the talk with them about being end of the bench guys. They're on board."

Cliff notes on the game anybody? Missed this one.

[TimDunkem]

Lonnie Walker is already our 4th best offensive player at least and the guy is never going to play. Can't even get in early in a preseason game. Meanwhile, DeRozan is a dumbass who can beat his man but still prefers to shoot 15-footers after doing so.

Don't even get me started on LaMarcus' unintelligent-ass playstyle.

Derrick White literally refuses to do anything but would probably be a great player if a more aggressive personality was in his body.

We are going to do nothing this year besides maybe accidentallying ourselves out of a lottery pick.

Just not enough guys that are good at basketball on this team and Pop over plays the worst of them.

Also, the board has a few two many dumbass President Rapester-Shuckster fans.

This sucks.

That's the worst part about this. They've committed to a team that's just good enough to go nowhere. No deep playoff runs, and no high draft pick. Just pure, unmitigated mediocrity.

[NASpurs]

Lol Eric B. “My sources say Mills and Beli get less minutes this year.”

The only inside sources I trust from that guy are the ones he has inside McDonald's as to when they're re-releasing the McRib.

[Genovaswitness]

"They have already had the talk with them about being end of the bench guys. They're on board."

Cliff notes on the game anybody? Missed this one.

Your boy white with the phenomenal 4 point performance :lmao

[ismael-robert]

I don't favor one over other but yea white has yet to show hes the better pg this season including scrimmage. Spurs not worried nor playing seriously with both Aldridge n gay out...still seeing wat they have.

[BillMc]

The problem is Weahterspoon can't spend much time with the team, can he? He's signed to a g-league contract, so doesn't that mean he can only play a limited amount of games or time with the team?

Good point. I forgot that.

He's also a 4 year college guy, so he's older. Which paradoxically means he probably needs the least amount of time in Austin. He is closer to his ceiling than KJ and Luka.

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

If Pop, Beli and Mills were gone what you guys have then to bitch about? Site might have to shut down...

[RC_Drunkford]

If Pop, Beli and Mills were gone what you guys have then to bitch about? Site might have to shut down...

There wouldn't be anything to bitch about because the team would actually be good

[timtonymanu]

When’s the next team scrimmage so the apologist will think this team is gelling and looks good again?

[gilmor]

I think Spurs should start White as PG and have Murray come off the bench

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Imagine a coach who would play Walker and Weatherspoon instead of Mills and Belinelli. How good would that defense be? And you could actually trade those 2 for somebody like Marvin Williams and further improve the team. Instead we will see the Mills/Belinelli back court give up 20 points in one quarter, then have Pop call a time out and play the same line up again until they give up another 10 points and the game is out of reach Walker sucks there's a reason he ain't getting any minutes.

[r0drig0lac]

Walker sucks there's a reason he ain't getting any minutes.

yes, Pop's preference, which is the same reason Marco and Mills keep playing even though they are completely harmful and negative on the court

[Pavlov]

When’s the next team scrimmage so the apologist will think this team is gelling and looks good again?

Uh, a year from now....

[TimDunkem]

Walker sucks there's a reason he ain't getting any minutes.

So then what's the excuse for the doo-doo duo of Mills and Belinelli?

[GAustex]

Patty is not bad in the right situation. He needs ball handlers who put pressure on the defense and/or who are really smart. The Spurs had that with Tim, Manu, Diaw and even Tony (but not so much Tony cause they usually did not play together).
This team is not made for Patty to be super effective. Low IQ isoballers and Patty do not mix.

[FkLA]

Patty is not bad in the right situation. He needs ball handlers who put pressure on the defense and/or who are really smart. The Spurs had that with Tim, Manu, Diaw and even Tony (but not so much Tony cause they usually did not play together).
This team is not made for Patty to be super effective. Low IQ isoballers and Patty do not mix.

:lol

[Play Boban]

There wouldn't be anything to bitch about because the team would actually be good
R U drunk?

[Collins21]

So then what's the excuse for the doo-doo duo of Mills and Belinelli?

I disagree with a lot of shit you post but this is spot on. No matter how "Bad" Walker is mills and Belinelli are 10x worse.

[BackHome]

What’s going on with White he should be doing better

[RC_Drunkford]

R U drunk?
:bobo

[tbdog]

It is so hard to judge pre season. Lyles got a run in the first unit to get some run in. I still think Poeltl needs to be in the second unit and Gay in the first unit.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think Spurs should start White as PG and have Murray come off the bench


The Spurs had 18 TO's. Even over the last five years, the Spurs win something like 75% of their games when they keep the TO's to 14 or fewer. White didn't turn the ball over a lot last season. If he can do that again this year, he's the most likely choice to play the point.

No matter what else they do well, it's just hard to overcome a PG who coughs the ball up a lot.

[timtonymanu]

Uh, a year from now....

Well people were getting hyped up over the guys beating each other in a scrimmage. Of course you think I 100% was serious when I made that post.

[Pavlov]

Well people were getting hyped up over the guys beating each other in a scrimmage. Of course you think I 100% was serious when I made that post.I don't know. People can be ignorant as shit around here.

[ismael-robert]

Wonder how laker fan is feeling after dropping 2 games to kyrie less nets...perspective...

[ragas]

Poeltl with 4 fouls already in the 2nd quarter :lol Start this guy Pop

Interesting. He had 2 fouls at the end of the game.

[TimmyBuckets]

So Spurs best player is Bryn Forbes? Got it.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

So then what's the excuse for the doo-doo duo of Mills and Belinelli?Walker hasn't show anything to make me think he is better than Beli or Mills. Walker was a average G league player last season and didn't do anything in the few minutes he played with the Spurs last season. The best we've seen from him so far was in the summer league and he didn't do anything except go by some guys (that will never play an NBA minute) for layups. He's probably getting out played by Beli and Mills in practice is probably why he ain't getting minutes over them.

[TimDunkem]

Walker hasn't show anything to make me think he is better than Beli or Mills. Walker was a average G league player last season and didn't do anything in the few minutes he played with the Spurs last season. The best we've seen from him so far was in the summer league and he didn't do anything except go by some guys (that will never play an NBA minute) for layups. He's probably getting out played by Beli and Mills in practice is probably why he ain't getting minutes over them.

They all suck, tbh.

[FkLA]

Walker hasn't show anything to make me think he is better than Beli or Mills. Walker was a average G league player last season and didn't do anything in the few minutes he played with the Spurs last season. The best we've seen from him so far was in the summer league and he didn't do anything except go by some guys (that will never play an NBA minute) for layups. He's probably getting out played by Beli and Mills in practice is probably why he ain't getting minutes over them.

You're a retard. First, if you had actually watched him in SL you'd know that he did a lot more than go by some guys for lay-ups. His midrange was money, his three was solid. His ability to get off his shot was obvious. Second, he hasn't shown you anything because he hasn't had the opportunities. Murray and White were in the same boat not that long ago. You have to give him that opportunity, especially when the alternatives are low ceiling players like Belli and Wombat.

[RC_Drunkford]

Popovich is telling Walker not to shoot the ball. How many times have we seen that movie? It's pretty clear that he doesn't have the green light to be aggressive. If he had that he could average 10 points off the bench

[Maddog]

The problem is Weatherspoon can't spend much time with the team, can he? He's signed to a g-league contract, so doesn't that mean he can only play a limited amount of games or time with the team?

How many can he play and can the contract be altered during the season?

I'm too lazy to look myself

[objective]

How many can he play and can the contract be altered during the season?

I'm too lazy to look myself

Supposed to be 45 days with the team, don't remember if they adjusted how they count travel days.

They could always cut Metu and just sign Weatherspoon to an NBA deal if it was that big a deal.

[Maddog]

Supposed to be 45 days with the team, don't remember if they adjusted how they count travel days.

They could always cut Metu and just sign Weatherspoon to an NBA deal if it was that big a deal.

I can easily see that happening