Dems CNN Debate Thread

[phxspurfan]

Jeorgbs. They took em.

[hater]

:lol I guess nobody cares

Just tuned it what a horrible lineup of 3rd class puppets :lmao

Kagala just attacked Warren and challenged to support Twitter banning Donald Trump :lmao

[spurraider21]

i dont have time to watch it live. will probably check it out later

[lefty]

:lol I guess nobody cares

Just tuned it what a horrible lineup of 3rd class puppets :lmao

Kagala just attacked Warren and challenged to support Twitter banning Donald Trump :lmao

3-0

:lol cafeteros

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Biden clip coupons for stock market
What a fucking liar

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Warren refused again and again how medical care for all would be funded

[SnakeBoy]

:lol I guess nobody cares

Just tuned it what a horrible lineup of 3rd class puppets :lmao

Kagala just attacked Warren and challenged to support Twitter banning Donald Trump :lmao

:lol

Forum libs can't stand to watch this shitty group they're going to have to choose from

[ducks]

She needs plastic surgery
She is going to lose some support tonight

[ducks]

Amy Klobuchar is democract Best hope but cnn hates her tits

[spurraider21]

Warren refused again and again how medical care for all would be funded
taxes are going to go up, same as bernie's plan. her refusal to just acknowledge it is problematic imo.

she's correct that the message should be that the actual cost for the middle class will go down, but she should be up front and say their savings on health insurance will more than offset the tax increase.

[spurraider21]

from what i've seen so far, looks like all the candidates got the memo that warren is becoming a frontrunner :lol... kamala/wang/biden/klobuchar/gabbard/buttigieg all taking turns trying to land good shots. tbh only buttigieg's shot really landed re: the issue if taxes and medicare

[Th'Pusher]

Can one of the lawyers here expound on this preclearance argument Harris is making for preserving Roe v Wade? Does this have any legal legs?

Kamala Harris believes we need to fight back and block these dangerous and deadly laws before they take effect. That’s exactly what she intends to do as president. Similar to the preclearance requirement of the Voting Rights Act, Harris will require, for the first time, that states and localities with a history of violating Roe v. Wade obtain approval from her Department of Justice before any abortion law or practice can take effect.
Read more at https://kamalaharris.org/repro-rights/#gUvUhO68Fc5VJiTd.99

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South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) railed against their progressive presidential rival Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) on Tuesday for not being honest about her Medicare for All plan

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https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/72554970_2454819601272762_6980422711952539648_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQmEFaD1g0V7npuAruoiW9hIAiwq_4s6LJhGs0P8HT-NqxjYrs2XBDqoi8wpCnQuU5dOAMh2Xr5GY62j-K9-E9zG&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=1&oh=503ebfba42257e3493147448cee1f84d&oe=5E1CF686

Trump wins!

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ELIZABETH WARREN: "The data show that we've had a lot of problems with losing jobs, but the principal reason has been bad trade policy. The principal reason has been a bunch of corporations, giant multinational corporations who've been calling the shots on trade."

THE FACTS: Economists mostly blame those job losses on automation and robots, not trade deals.

So the Massachusetts senator is off!!!!!!

[SnakeBoy]

taxes are going to go up, same as bernie's plan. her refusal to just acknowledge it is problematic imo.

she's correct that the message should be that the actual cost for the middle class will go down, but she should be up front and say their savings on health insurance will more than offset the tax increase.

She's also shifty about where private health insurance fits in her plan.

I don't know why Warren (or any of the others really) have to be elusive about what a universal plan might look like considering every other developed nation has one. I'm generally conservative and I'm not even against universal coverage/single payer if they would just be specific about what they are proposing. As long as it isn't complete shit like Bernie's. Of all the countries to model a plan after he goes with the Soviet model :lol.

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Warren I am Indian oh 1 1000000000 that counts
Lol

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JULIAN CASTRO, former U.S. housing secretary: "Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania actually in the latest jobs data have lost jobs, not gained them."

THE FACTS: Nope.

Figures from the Labor Department show that the former Housing and Urban Development secretary is wrong.



Pop must be talking to that stupid fucking former mayor

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WARREN: "Mueller had shown to a fare-thee-well that this president obstructed justice."

THE FACTS: That's not exactly what special counsel Robert Mueller showed.





Warren lies lies lies lies lies
Is this the best the donkey party can get ?

[DMC]

Amusing to see how different media outlets have completely different spins on the debate. One offering a clinical view, the other almost pure op ed.

Never stop marketing news to people in consumer friendly, attractive packaging at eye level.

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Having debate in playoff baseball night was a great idea
Donkeys!

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Who is healthy Biden or Bernie?

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PETE BUTTIGIEG: "We are at the cusp of building a new American majority to actually do things that congressmen and senators have been talking about for my entire life — on guns, we are this close to an assault weapons ban, that would be huge."


THE FACTS: No, the U.S. is not close to enacting an assault-weapons ban. Congress is not on the verge of passing one. Prospects for such a ban are bound to remain slim until the next election at least



Duh!!!!

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Those democracts are fools and liars!

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Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump

Wins!

[DarrinS]

Yikes

[ducks]

Do not vote blue in president race they are fools !

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Yikes

Yes those people on stage yikes is right !

[ducks]

We want Clinton we want Clinton we want Clinton we want Clinton we want Clinton

She would be closer to Second place then those fools on stage

[DarrinS]

Luckily, for the candidates, hardly anyone watched that.

[phxspurfan]

Not gonna lie, I really tried to be interested in it but then went out and did yard work. Seriously. Yard work was more interesting.

[phxspurfan]

Like the moment when Warren was all like "I really don't hate billionaires!" and they panned over to the billionaire, smiling like the Cheshire Cat. That was the time to tune out

[spurraider21]

Yikes
clock.
work.


there is literally nothing they could have said on stage that would have gotten any response out of you besides.. yawn, cringe, yikes

[Reck]

So the formula hasn't changed.

The all attacked the front runner all at once. This time, Warren since she's the one everyone's chasing.

CNN cant make an interesting debate if they tried.

[spurraider21]

kamala's polling has been shit since the whole "im not calling biden a racist but biden is a racist" attack in that earlier debate. her attack on warren not joining her in her petty twitter shit is not going to be her second wind :lol

funny to see kamala trying to bring stupid issues like that to the forefront instead of what actually affects people. like baselinebum said, running on "trump is bad" is a terrible play, but it seems to be what kamala was going for

[DarrinS]

I'm already paying for my family's health care and educating my kids. What do dems offer me?

[ducks]

https://mobile.twitter.com/danscavino/status/1184288405481541632/photo/1
Who is going to beat that !

[ducks]

Trump could easily win re-election in 2020, according to modeling by Moody’s Analytics. The Moody’s models have been highly accurate, missing only once since the 1980 election.

[DarrinS]

Let's be honest, that was a shitfest.

[phxspurfan]

So the formula hasn't changed.

The all attacked the front runner all at once. This time, Warren since she's the one everyone's chasing.

CNN cant make an interesting debate if they tried.

Also this. Erin Burnett kept interrupting too. Wouldn't let anyone actually finish their over-rehearsed sound byte.


And the Asian guy went on about some super technical plan, that was funny. Everyone just looked like 'huh' and moved on

[phxspurfan]

I'm already paying for my family's health care and educating my kids. What do dems offer me?

They offer to pay your coworker, you know the one who just graduated college and is trying to steal your promotion, that one, forgiveness for his 200k of student debt he racked up getting that overpriced bachelors and super trendy 'elite' MBA. Then they will take the owner of your company's money and put it toward educating all the kids at Howard University.


And btw I'm a moderate/independent, so I see through stupid shit from both sides

[pgardn]

I'm already paying for my family's health care and educating my kids. What do dems offer me?

4 more years of Trump.
You are doing great on healthcare buddy. He’s got a plan.
Christ.... you don’t give a damn if you can’t see where you are.
You need 4 more years of what you have seen so far, it’s the safe bet!

Stability, reliability, honesty. Trump for you all the way.

[pgardn]

Let's be honest, that was a shitfest.

Why be honest now when lies have worked so well?

[DarrinS]

Why be honest now when lies have worked so well?

Who do these candidates appeal to?

[Spurminator]

I'm already paying for my family's health care and educating my kids. What do dems offer me?

You're homeschooling your kids?

That should be child abuse.

[DarrinS]

You're homeschooling your kids?

That should be child abuse.

Nope. Paying their college tuition.

[TSA]

So the formula hasn't changed.

The all attacked the front runner all at once. This time, Warren since she's the one everyone's chasing.

CNN cant make an interesting debate if they tried.

https://mobile.twitter.com/parscale/status/1184289299409395718

[DarrinS]

For people that pay their debts and bills, I don't see what the dems offer.

[pgardn]

Who do these candidates appeal to?

Any of them.

I don’t want an unstable wanna-be dictator in office.
I can give you a list why they all are unappealing at a debate. It does not matter. I realize the serious nature of what we have now, especially after the dirt finding mission on Biden. Not in this country, not this way. And then China... But, but that was a joke. I’m sick of all the attention the child seeks.

[pgardn]

Debates were much more interesting when Trump made nicknames and then stalked Clinton.

Debate... what a joke.

[Spurtacular]

Any of them.

I don’t want an unstable wanna-be dictator in office.
I can give you a list why they all are unappealing at a debate. It does not matter. I realize the serious nature of what we have now, especially after the dirt finding mission on Biden. Not in this country, not this way. And then China... But, but that was a joke. I’m sick of all the attention the child seeks.

This is serious, guys! Trump is inquiring about corruption! Prosperity abounds too!

:lmao Less Than Blake

[TheGreatYacht]

Watch the 6 minutes that has America searching Tulsi Gabbard

https://youtu.be/f7-9qF0sMyk

[spurraider21]

For people that pay their debts and bills, I don't see what the dems offer.
so you're just a single issue voter and that issue is tax rates. thats fine.

[pgardn]

This is serious, guys! Trump is inquiring about corruption! Prosperity abounds too!

:lmao Less Than Blake

You are such a Derp.
Its not possible to understand for a sex starved boy with his mepoo always on his mind. Girls don’t like me :(
You can still become a Catholic priest, it’s all good.

[ducks]

Biden just said he never discussed the sweetheart gig with Hunter Biden. Said no one has ever said he did.

Except that Hunter said they did talk about it.

This morning on Good Morning America!

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Beto O'Rourke said that he "cannot fathom" a situation where he would run for public office again if he doesn't win the Democratic presidential nomination.






Great news democracts!

[pgardn]

Biden just said he never discussed the sweetheart gig with Hunter Biden. Said no one has ever said he did.

Except that Hunter said they did talk about it.

This morning on Good Morning America!

What?

A lie?

He can be our president now!

[Spurtacular]

You are such a Derp.
Its not possible to understand for a sex starved boy with his mepoo always on his mind. Girls don’t like me :(
You can still become a Catholic priest, it’s all good.

You're the derp. You cry about fighting corruption and achieving prosperity.

[DarrinS]

so you're just a single issue voter and that issue is tax rates. thats fine.

It's my main issue. Leave my taxes low and leave me alone.

[pgardn]

You're the derp. You cry about fighting corruption and achieving prosperity.

You just need to pleasure yourself again.
No female will help, you are not understood.
Poor mepoo spoiling it all for you.

[pgardn]

It's my main issue. Leave my taxes low and leave me alone.

Good.

Then when your kids get ill or God forbid you do, the healthcare system we have right now will leave you alone.
Lets not play games here, you and I have done just fine under Trump.

[spurraider21]

It's my main issue. Leave my taxes low and leave me alone.
what was said today that impacts the bolded?

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Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Tlaib set to endorse Bernie Sanders: reports

The kiss of
Death !

[pgardn]

Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Tlaib set to endorse Bernie Sanders: reports

The kiss of
Death !

Putin and Assad endorse Trump.
Hater is on board.

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Sanders promises new jobs for 'tens of millions of Americans' during Democratic debate


Lol


How many jobs did he add for the state he repesidents

Clinton could not even create 250k jobs in new York fucking state

[ducks]

Putin and Assad endorse Trump.
Hater is on board.

Dude Putin endorsed Clinton you fool

[ducks]

What?

A lie?

He can be our president now!


To bad for you trump fulfills more promises then last 5 presidents combined !

[pgardn]

Dude Putin endorsed Clinton you fool

Yes ducks.
They really really like each other.

[ducks]

Yes ducks.
They really really like each other.

You must have seen their pics together without their clothes on

[pgardn]

To bad for you trump fulfills more promises then last 5 presidents combined !

Healthcare first...
Nope.

Lets Go infrastructure the blue team is with us here.
Nope.

Promises made.... uh... promises made. Uhh...
”Who knew Healthcare would be so difficult?”

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184308485237948416?s=20

[pgardn]

You must have seen their pics together without their clothes on

Dont go there my feathered friend.
We know urinating on one of the two comes next for you.

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CNN, NYT slammed for avoiding China during presidential debate: 'This is literally a joke,' 'Shameful

[pgardn]

CNN, NYT slammed for avoiding China during presidential debate: 'This is literally a joke,' 'Shameful

Impossible.
Both were killed during the Church of Fake News massacre.
Derp the twisted posted it.

[SnakeBoy]

Did Biden get through the debate without exploding an eye or having his dentures fall out again?

[Chris]

Did Biden get through the debate without exploding an eye or having his dentures fall out again?

I want to hear more stories about Corn Pop.

[ElNono]

I haven't seen one of these yet, and I somehow feel I didn't miss a thing.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/AZachParkinson/status/1184274037041750016?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1184277654922547200?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1184333368529477634?s=19

[AaronY]

Amy Klobuchar is democract Best hope but cnn hates her tits
Did you get put on Viagra or Cialis or something lately?

[AaronY]

ELIZABETH WARREN: "The data show that we've had a lot of problems with losing jobs, but the principal reason has been bad trade policy. The principal reason has been a bunch of corporations, giant multinational corporations who've been calling the shots on trade."

THE FACTS: Economists mostly blame those job losses on automation and robots, not trade deals.

So the Massachusetts senator is off!!!!!!
Warren and Bernie's functionally illiterate protectionist trade policies are one of their low-key secret worst disasters in terms of actual policies. Those two literally have zero understanding of trade at all. its weird because Dems are overwhelmingly pro-free trade and have been since well before Trump

[CosmicCowboy]

Warren and Bernie's functionally illiterate protectionist trade policies are one of their low-key secret worst disasters in terms of actual policies. Those two literally have zero understanding of trade at all. its weird because Dems are overwhelmingly pro-free trade and have been since well before Trump

Their positions are purely poll driven. If people think they are losing manufacturing jobs because of free trade, anti-free trade is the position they will take.

[AaronY]

Their positions are purely poll driven. If people think they are losing manufacturing jobs because of free trade, anti-free trade is the position they will take.
Its more fun to yell at a pic of Hillary Clinton and yell "Shillary" or yell at some evil corp and blame them for all your problems than it is to yell at an order picking robot tbh

[AaronY]

Their positions are purely poll driven. If people think they are losing manufacturing jobs because of free trade, anti-free trade is the position they will take.
It doesnt even really poll well at all among dems:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/13/americans-generally-positive-about-nafta-but-most-republicans-say-it-benefits-mexico-more-than-u-s/

even before trump:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG_f3ZvWsAEClfG?format=jpg&name=large

but it fires up the right people like rose twitter activists

[hater]

:lmao and thinking Republidogs policies are not poll driven

[AaronY]

Bernie should bring an order picking robot out on stage in one of his stump speeches so everyone can yell at it. see how that goes maybe

[phxspurfan]

Bernie should bring an order picking robot out on stage in one of his stump speeches so everyone can yell at it. see how that goes maybe

We have a salad making robot at work. Fuck those things! I want a disgruntled minimum wager making my salad so they can spit in it and give me the minimum scoop of ingredients.

[phxspurfan]

Healthcare first...
Nope.

Lets Go infrastructure the blue team is with us here.
Nope.

Promises made.... uh... promises made. Uhh...
”Who knew Healthcare would be so difficult?”

Agree, still waiting for that giantic infrastructure bill to repair our crumbling roads and bridges. Instead we get tweets about how the states/utilities should be managing them better.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1184277654922547200?s=19

She's right tbh

[DMC]

CNN mostly mum on their own debate :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1184512810379665408?s=19

[Chris]

1QhK8NXu2Vs

[UncleDennis]

Tulsi seems like the only that doesn't have a 24/7 case of Trump derangement but it seems her own party hates her.

[spurraider21]

Tulsi seems like the only that doesn't have a 24/7 case of Trump derangement but it seems her own party hates her.
also did you know she's a veteran?

[UncleDennis]

also did you know she's a veteran?

haha yes, well, not only a veteran but a russian spy as well right?

[spurraider21]

haha yes, well, not only a veteran but a russian spy as well right?
was makin a joke cause she reminds everybody of her service at every opportunity

[boutons_deux]

Tulsi seems like the only that doesn't have a 24/7 case of Trump derangement but it seems her own party hates her.

agreed, Trash is fully deranged. Even Repugs know it, and HATE the guy, HATE his daily hosing of deflecting, unserious bullshit over everything.

[DMC]

was makin a joke cause she reminds everybody of her service at every opportunity

And I am guessing you are a lawyer, right?

[SnakeBoy]

1QhK8NXu2Vs

:tu He answered my question if Biden managed to keep his dentures from falling out this debate.

[spurraider21]

And I am guessing you are a lawyer, right?
https://media.giphy.com/media/11QC6GgQGPtMxW/giphy.gif

[DMC]

Biden/Warren ticket

Book it

[DMC]

https://media.giphy.com/media/11QC6GgQGPtMxW/giphy.gif

So you're a pussy as well?

I don't get it.

[spurraider21]

I don't get it.
i'll give you a while to figure it out. wasn't overly complex

[Chris]

i'll give you a while to figure it out. wasn't overly complex

it sucked

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orN2Tp0c028

[Pavlov]

Any one of these would be better than Dennison.

Even Tulsi. Her cult membership makes her a little more predictable.

[DMC]

i'll give you a while to figure it out. wasn't overly complex

It was probably childish so I probably won't get it. Try to grow up a little and resubmit.

[spurraider21]

It was probably childish so I probably won't get it. Try to grow up a little and resubmit.
ankle biter

[DMC]

ankle biter

Oh you mean your quip that I responded to? You are a lawyer aren't you? You do tell us at every opportunity.

[Pavlov]

Actually he doesn't tell us. He comments on legal issues the rubes bring up; they even ask for comments from him and vy, etc.

They know more than we do about legal issues and legal issues are discussed in the political forum. Get over it.

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CNN fails to draw viewers as Dem debate ratings sink to new low for 2019

[DarrinS]

I have family members that are lawyers. Good poeople, tbh. I just don't know why that profession continues to use tortured, obfuscated English in their daily work.

I did my own divorce in the late 90's, with no lawyer, using some boiler plate forms. There are definitely times when you need an experienced lawyer, but some things you can do yourself.

[DarrinS]

I don't know if I want lessons on constitutional law from the political forum of SpursTalk. No offence.

[DarrinS]

The two individuals on this forum that I know are lawyers could school me, no doubt, but legal opinion is still an opinion.

[DarrinS]

If not, the supreme court would always have unanimous opinionion. No?

[DarrinS]

This is why we make arguments.

[Pavlov]

Oy, so much rube in so many posts.

[DarrinS]

Oy, so much rube in so many posts.

the burns

[Pavlov]

the burnsYou were trying to burn lawyers for no reason, agreed.

[DarrinS]

You were trying to burn lawyers for no reason, agreed.

I said lawyers are good people (at least the ones I know), can have different opinions, and aren't always necessary.

The horrors

[Pavlov]

I said lawyers are good people (at least the ones I know), can have different opinions, and aren't always necessary.

The horrorsYep, just saying they're unnecessary with their fancy precise words and your rube legal opinion is equal to any lawyers.

:lol

[DarrinS]

https://www.legalzoom.com

[ducks]

https://youtu.be/GuRseYu07Fc


Someone gets owned
Mass shooters do not follow the law

[ducks]

Cops do not follow the law reporting illegal criminal aliens

[spurraider21]

I have family members that are lawyers. Good poeople, tbh. I just don't know why that profession continues to use tortured, obfuscated English in their daily work.
a lot of time its the statutes/codes with outdated language that attorneys are forced to use when referring to them. same goes for legal standards that were set in supreme court cases decades/centuries ago which are still applicable governing law.

for instance, it might be easier to say, and make more sense when you hear something like a "motion to dismiss" but in some states that same process is called a "demurrer"... which you might say is tortured, obfuscated english (lol using the word obfuscated when complaining about tortured word choices), but thats simply the term that a state may use.


I did my own divorce in the late 90's, with no lawyer, using some boiler plate forms. There are definitely times when you need an experienced lawyer, but some things you can do yourself.
good job. you so smart. law school just a money grab, you dont learn anything that you cant just google or find on legalzoom!

[spurraider21]

The two individuals on this forum that I know are lawyers could school me, no doubt, but legal opinion is still an opinion.


If not, the supreme court would always have unanimous opinionion. No?


This is why we make arguments.
yes and no, tbh

first, ive never argued with somebody about the law here and then said "im right because im an attorney and you're not and therefore your opinion is wrong." usually when i argue about the legality of something, i will post a statute or a snippet from a supreme court or appellate case where the court outright states the applicable rule to back up what i'm saying.

you are correct that legal opinions are subject to disagreement and interpretation. but you cant (for example, i'm not saying you hold this position) just assert that "its my legal opinion that abortion is 100% illegal." the established case law says otherwise. your opinion might be that "it should be illegal" but thats more of a personal/political opinion and not a legal one.

of course, at moments notice, the supreme court can overturn a previous decision, though it usually requires a heightened showing to overturn established precedent. of course, clarence thomas is completely against the notion that precedent should be held in high regard, but thats how the court has operated for 200+ years. thats why we always operate under the assumption that previous SCOTUS rulings are law and binding on all other courts.

[clambake]

antichrist darrin with the self-divorce pity me.

prepare to be shat on

[Spurtacular]

antichrist darrin with the self-divorce pity me.

prepare to be shat on

More blakisms. You're not even smart enough (or capable) of having a different personality to sell your cuck alt. :lmao

[DMC]

The two individuals on this forum that I know are lawyers could school me, no doubt, but legal opinion is still an opinion.

In a way. It's like saying a doctor's opinion is still an opinion but would you ask your friend whether or not you should have open heart surgery if your friend was a plumber? Of course not you would ask a doctor and then you may go get a second opinion from a doctor who also runs tests and comes to a conclusion. But it's still an opinion because it's still telling you what you should or shouldn't do. There's no right answer there only someone's advice.

[CosmicCowboy]

When my son went to Michigan Law school I was somewhat shocked to realize they didn't really teach law in law school but rather "how to think like a lawyer".

[Spurtacular]

Doubt Chumpettes have much to say about this clown show, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfkKT6Fn-cE

[koriwhat]

Doubt Chumpettes have much to say about this clown show, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfkKT6Fn-cE

just from that screenshot there's at least a lesbian, a corpse, and a gay dude there. 2/3 to rep the alphabet gang. :tu

[Spurtacular]

:lol This moderator argues like Chump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbsGJ2c2R4M

[Reck]

derp spending all night disecting videos thinking about his ST love, Chump. :lol