Game Thread: Spurs vs. Grizzlies - Oct. 18, 2019 @ 7:30 PM CT - Preseason Game #5

[timvp]

Final Spurs preseason game. :tu

The Grizzlies are televising the game so it'll be on League Pass for those who can't make it to the game.

[jermaine]

I hope I can make it through the whole game... I get up at 2:45am Saturday mornings.

[Fireball]

lets see if everyone will be playing or Pop still rests somebody without having any physical problems ...

:flag:

[BillMc]

Go Spurs!

[Dverde]

Fathead playing or is he still hurt?

[BatManu20]

Glad it’s the last game. Ready for the real thing tbh. 5 days :tu

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

When does the regular season start?

[GAustex]

SA got a good chance if DDR sits

[BatManu20]

When does the regular season start?

Tuesday, but the Spurs’ first game is Wednesday.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I’ll be surprised if Dejounte plays tonight. Can’t wait for the regular season!

[ismael-robert]

When does the regular season start?

Seriously? Could've typed that into Google or siri...nba.com....spurs.com....

[spurs50_]

Is this Metu's last game as a Spur?

[SpurPadre]

Is this Metu's last game as a Spur?

Last game in the NBA, tbh.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Hope to see some more of Luka tonight

[cd021]

Hope Pop sits Murray, don't risk it tbh.

[Mugen]

Can't believe I'm giving money to this communist league again and watching Pop roll with the same fuckups as the last 5 years. Might as well give Demar a max extension while we're at it. :lol

Welp.... :flag:

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185328778630881280

[siraulo23]

league pass feed :tu

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185328778630881280

I wonder if DeRozan and Gay will actually be healthy for the regular season opener....

[BatManu20]

The gang is back. Timmy, Tony, Manu, Sean, Bruce, D-Rob, & Ice.

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[timvp]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185328778630881280

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185338596741566470

DeRozan off the bench?

I'd be down for Pop to try that ... although I highly doubt it happens for a variety of reasons.

[timvp]

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Why is Manu driving around that goat? :stirpot:

[Rocalcio]

Fathead playing or is he still hurt?

Anderson played the last game already.

[BatManu20]

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[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185328778630881280

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185338596741566470

DeRozan off the bench?

I'd be down for Pop to try that ... although I highly doubt it happens for a variety of reasons.

:lol wait wtf?

I thought he wasn't playing at first and now he's coming off the bench. Crazy.

[timvp]

:lol wait wtf?

I thought he wasn't playing at first and now he's coming off the bench. Crazy.

I'm assuming DeRozan is starting and Pop just forgot he sat out last game. We'll see.

[FkLA]

links?

[GB20]

Can someone post a link please?

[NASpurs]

Link:

http://nba4free.com/stream/mem/

[dabom6]

When da fuck do I get my nick back bitch?

[GB20]

Link:

http://nba4free.com/stream/mem/

Thank you!!

[NASpurs]

False alarm :lol, he's starting

[timvp]

Yep, Pop forgot.

Murray
Forbes
DeRozan
Lyles
Aldridge

[FkLA]

DePression

:vomit:

[Leetonidas]

Back to back out of bounds calls on Forbes wtf

[ace3g]

Did DeRozan just make a 3?????!!!

[r0drig0lac]

demar for 3

[Leetonidas]

Now that is a rare sight :lol

[BatManu20]

DeMar drilling that 3 is a sight for sore eyes

[jermaine]

I think playing along with LaMarcus, Lyles maybe pretty good.

[r0drig0lac]

Demar for 3 again...wtf

[timvp]

Give that man a max extension!

[jermaine]

Another 3 for ddr

[ace3g]

2 of them now...

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1185358137135681537

[Joseph Kony]

did he hit another one? fucking stream froze on me

[Rocalcio]

Looks like he worked on his 3s.

[jermaine]

Headband Rudy

[NASpurs]

Give that man a max extension!

:lol

[Leetonidas]

Another nice shot by demar. Idk why he has such trouble from deep. He has a nice looking shot

[BatManu20]

Back-to-Back 3’s from DeMar :wow

[NASpurs]

TIL Demarre Carroll and Jae Crowder are different people.

[emanueldavidginobili]

If this man actually developed a 3 point shot this off season woah, and yeah Chip would be the goat haha

[FkLA]

Is the stream sucking ass for anyone else? It was good in previous games, tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Didn't the nba ban the headband Mills is wearing?

[timvp]

D White swallowing up KA was some forehead on forehead crime :lol

[BatManu20]

Lol Fathead. I don’t miss that

[siraulo23]

D White swallowing up KA was some forehead on forehead crime :lol

:lol

[timvp]

TIL Demarre Carroll and Jae Crowder are different people.

:lol

[BatManu20]

Didn't the nba ban the headband Mills is wearing?

No, they banned the ninja-style headbands. His is just a head-wrap for his dreads.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/EricSal_7/status/1185359413508530176

[siraulo23]

Derozan teasing us with 2 three pointers

[TimDunkem]

Lol at anyone who ever believed in Fathead.

[poopbox]

marco and mills playing together :bang

[timvp]

Lol Fathead. I don’t miss that

He hesitated so much I'm not sure that was an actual block or if he just never shot it.

[Leetonidas]

No, they banned the ninja-style headbands. His is just a head-wrap for his dreads.

I guess I thought they were the same thing :lol didn't really realize his was a wrap for his hair. Makes sense

[GB20]

where is walker?

[FkLA]

Belli over Lonnie is criminal.

Wombat-Belli together is infuriating.

[Leetonidas]

Nice seeing the spurs take 9 threes already

[timvp]

The ninja headbands are so much better than whatever that is Patty has on his head.

[Dex]

:lol Mills just used Harden's move off the screen

[tbdog]

I love how much movement our team has, and if the play breaks down, LMA/Gay/DD are in position on the block for an iso.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Marco over Lonnie is a travesty

[Leetonidas]

:lmao fathead

[r0drig0lac]

mills and marco before walker.....

[jeebus]

Man I forgot how bad of a player FatHead was. He should be cleaning portable shitters for road work crews, not playing basketball.

[jermaine]

mills and marco before walker.....

They're playing good thou

[Ditty]

I don’t think division rivals should be playing each other in pre season games. I think it would bring more appeal when they play in the regular season.

[tbdog]

Mills looks in great shape. Gay isn't though. That last shot was 'I'm tired.'

[Dex]

Hell of a chasedown block by Poeltl to stop that dunk :wow

[NASpurs]

On pace to 40 three point attempts

[Leetonidas]

Not great and way too many fouls but still up 10.

[jermaine]

What if Purtel played up to his height!?! I can dream

[Dex]

I don’t think division rivals should be playing each other in pre season games. I think it would bring more appeal when they play in the regular season.

The point of preseason is to limit travel and strain.

Memphis is probably the easiest game on the schedule tbh

[siraulo23]

Poeltl gon be one of my favourite spur again this season along with White. Then Murray coming :tu

[BatManu20]

The point of preseason is to limit travel and strain.

Memphis is probably the easiest game on the schedule tbh

Bingo. That’s why everyone keeps playing the same teams over and over in preseason.

[BatManu20]

Ja Morant is gonna be special.

[Leetonidas]

Bad defense by Gay. But that Morant kid looks pretty damn good

[jermaine]

Lyles sucks

[jermaine]

Lyles really really sucks

[siraulo23]

Forbes jumper :tu

[BatManu20]

Forbes! That was great D by Poeltl too

[Leetonidas]

Forbes :wow

[BatManu20]

Lyles really really sucks

Should be Marcus Morris’ bitchass getting these minutes smh

[Ditty]

Carroll needs to be playing over Lyles.

[NASpurs]

Carroll needs to be playing over Lyles.

It's Pop; he needs a reclamation project early in the season.

[Fusternino]

Morris great numbers so far for the Knicks-all fluff?

[Leetonidas]

So are Walker and Carroll resting or what

[Leetonidas]

Lyles is awful

[timvp]

Aldridge makes Clarke look like a midget. Still not sure a Danny Green sized center works in the NBA...

[BatManu20]

Lyles is the obvious wink link. Not sure how much run you can actually give him in meaningful games right now.

Hopefully he improves as he gets more comfortable in the system. Looks like he’s forcing it a bit to prove himself to the coaches. But he’s doing the exact opposite right now.

[Leetonidas]

The Grizzlies announcers aren't that bad tbh. Brevin Knight surprisingly solid. Way better than those shitty rockets announcers

[FkLA]

Tbf to Lyles Clarke is a great defender.

[BatManu20]

Patty smh

[Dex]

Kyle still too over-eager to shoot bad shots

[poopbox]

Why is Lonnie not playing?

[BatManu20]

The Grizzlies announcers aren't that bad tbh. Brevin Knight surprisingly solid. Way better than those shitty rockets announcers

Rockets have arguably the worst in the league tbh. Biggest homers ever. And they’re whiney as hell. Although Sean Elliott is a big homer too.

[FkLA]

That Wombat for White substitution :lol

[siraulo23]

Welp that was a horrible couple mins stretch of basketball

[NASpurs]

Why is Lonnie not playing?

It wouldn't be fair to Marco.

[Dex]

Patty smh

He thinks he is a better ball-handler than he is...and it shows at times

[timtonymanu]

That Wombat for White substitution :lol

“It wouldn’t be fair to the culture. :pop:”

[Mr. Body]

Morris great numbers so far for the Knicks-all fluff?

Production for a shitty team. He's gotten thrown out of a pre-season game already. A pre-season game.

[Mr. Body]

Lyles is the obvious wink link. Not sure how much run you can actually give him in meaningful games right now.

Hopefully he improves as he gets more comfortable in the system. Looks like he’s forcing it a bit to prove himself to the coaches. But he’s doing the exact opposite right now.

Probably can't, but try to get Sabonis.

[siraulo23]

wtf ugly 2nd quarter

[NASpurs]

Great way to end the first half guys.

[timvp]

So Pop allows Patty to play point guard and shooting guard ... but Murray and White have only played point guard in preseason :pctoss

It's going to be a long season if this continues into the regular season......

[Leetonidas]

Pretty hideous 2nd quarter

[FkLA]

What kind of shit line up is this? Zero excuse for not having one of White, Murray, DD on the floor at all times. Looks like Pop is going to pull his stupid shit again this year.

[timtonymanu]

Mills really sucks the life out of this team. He really is better off just cheering from the bench full time.

[spurs1990]

Rudy Gay's effort and shot selection. Maybe he's the guy that should give minutes to Walker and not Belinelli.

[FkLA]

So Pop allows Patty to play point guard and shooting guard ... but Murray and White have only played point guard in preseason :pctoss

It's going to be a long season if this continues into the regular season......

His love for his pet Wombat is a danger to the team.

[timtonymanu]

Rudy Gay's effort and shot selection. Maybe he's the guy that should give minutes to Walker and not Belinelli.

They can’t. PATFO just gave him an albatross contract.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

It's pre-season so maybe Pop just playing around, but with a healthy Murray & White, no reason for Mills to get PG minutes. Rudy looks very old - no lift. Lyles is a big body that can dribble, but not sure he has shown he can do anything else good enough to warrant being in the rotation and Carroll looks like another guy we acquired 2-3 years too late. Is Walker resting, injured??

[timvp]

I don't understand this PG rotation. Pop only allows Murray or White to play PG ... but this is the second straight game that Pop carves out minutes for Mills at point guard too.

Frustrating.

[RC_Drunkford]

The depth of this team is great. You sub out Murray and White comes in. Mills comes in for Forbes. Gay for Lyles/Carroll. Poeltl for Aldridge. Bring in Walker for DeRozan and stagger DeRozan's and Aldridge's minutes and there won't be any drop of in production at all

[timtonymanu]

Lol Eric B and his “sources.” Dude has to suck off Marcus Bryant/Manny’s posts just to take some heat off himself being the laughing stock poster of SpursTalk.

[Jordan Jackson]

Why is Patty Mills still getting so much run on this team? He can't run the offense and defensively he's a dog.

It's even worse when he's on the court with Marco.

[SpaceCoast Spursfan]

It's pre-season so maybe Pop just playing around, but with a healthy Murray & White, no reason for Mills to get PG minutes. Rudy looks very old - no lift. Lyles is a big body that can dribble, but not sure he has shown he can do anything else good enough to warrant being in the rotation and Carroll looks like another guy we acquired 2-3 years too late. Is Walker resting, injured??

OH, I forgot to mention one half of basketball left in preseason and Pop appears to have zero interest in putting White/Murray on floor together - all have to hope this is CIA Pop, but feeling more and more its just old stubborn Pop

[TDomination]

I’m tired of having talented players we can play just sitting on the bench waiting for their turn which won’t happen unless an injury occurs. Then and only then will Pops hand be forced.

[NASpurs]

Sometimes I just wanna say it’s Pop tinkering in the preseason but I don’t know anymore. The logical rotation is glaring and right in front of him.

[RC_Drunkford]

Gay had a lingering injury so he's probably not a 100%. Lyles is a no show on offense, but that should change. I'd still prefer Carroll over him although Carroll has shown nothing that makes me think he's better than Dante Cunningham

[timtonymanu]

Sometimes I just wanna say it’s Pop tinkering in the preseason but I don’t know anymore. The logical rotation is glaring and right in front of him.

It’s Pop. He will ride with Beli/Wombat all year and then go to Lonnie when it’s in an elimination game in the playoffs (if the Spurs are even lucky to get there).

[timtonymanu]

Still don’t like that Rudy Gay contract even though he was good last year. We might just get a completely broken version of Rudy Gay this season and he’s being paid 16 million a year. Smh.

[GB20]

I feel bad for walker, I bet he is telling himself what am I doing here?

[Ditty]

I hope Lonnie asks for a trade.

[FkLA]

If White was having the type of game IB is having ST would be ripping him apart, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Dejounte just got posterized

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/KSMedia13/status/1185374375089967104

[GusT15]

Well,at least with Lyles on the court i don't have to focus all of my negativity on DeMar.
Lyles sucks as well.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I don't understand this PG rotation. Pop only allows Murray or White to play PG ... but this is the second straight game that Pop carves out minutes for Mills at point guard too.

Frustrating.


True believer. I don't think there's anything Patty could do to change that. It might not make the Spurs a lottery team, but it's going to be worth a number of losses over the season.

[FkLA]

Put our best defender on Morant. IB can't handle him.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Well,at least with Lyles on the court i don't have to focus all of my negativity on DeMar.
Lyles sucks as well.



Lyles should understand that he's on his last legs in the NBA. So he should have come out this preseason with a sense of urgency. Either he doesn't have it, or he's not capable of it. Either way, he's looking like a washout.

[Mr. Body]

Lyles should understand that he's on his last legs in the NBA. So he should have come out this preseason with a sense of urgency. Either he doesn't have it, or he's not capable of it. Either way, he's looking like a washout.

Dude trained with Andrew Wiggins this summer. He's hopeless.

[GB20]

Clarke looks really small for a big guy.

[Leetonidas]

Put our best defender on Morant. IB can't handle him.

:lol he has 11 pts on 11 shots...

[FkLA]

I like how if Murray or White have a defensive breakdown Pop subs them out to teach them a lesson but Wombat-Belli do it all game and it's no big deal. :lol

[GusT15]

Lyles should understand that he's on his last legs in the NBA. So he should have come out this preseason with a sense of urgency. Either he doesn't have it, or he's not capable of it. Either way, he's looking like a washout.

He was supposed to be a 3pt shooter and a mobile PF on defense.That's why he was drafted so high.
His shooting % are inconsistent to say the least and he gets lost on defense.


That's lack of focus,training and work rate imo.

[FkLA]

Rudy looks fine, imo. Especially his 3.

[BatManu20]

Poeltl had a guard on him in the post, and instead of demanding the ball, he immediately ran up to set a screen for White. I hate that.

[Leetonidas]

Pretty maddening that Lonnie hasn't played at all

[BatManu20]

Clarke looks really small for a big guy.

Measured 6’8 with shoes at the combine.

[ZeusWillJudge]

All I need is a 17 point fourth quarter from DDR and I win! It could happen.

[Russ]

Pop definitely thinks that Walker is someone worth making a point to.

I have no idea what that point is, but it is.

[BatManu20]

Enough Marco. Put in Lonnie FFS

[ZeusWillJudge]

Rudy looks fine, imo. Especially his 3.


You've got to love that line. I'd like to see him get to the line a few times a game, but I can't complain about his play. If he can keep healthy.

[FkLA]

:lol IB

[objective]

Lyles should understand that he's on his last legs in the NBA. So he should have come out this preseason with a sense of urgency. Either he doesn't have it, or he's not capable of it. Either way, he's looking like a washout.

I don't think he gets that at all, and why should he?

With free agency practically over and all the money spent, he realistically was looking at a minimum. People who covered the nuggets laughed about him being the worst player on the roster in some nuggets season preview podcast I listened to.

But RC and Pop bailed him and Klutch out with $5 million for no reason.

If anything, Lyles might think he's underpaid and resents the Spurs for not giving him Morris money.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1185381821917388802

[SpurPadre]

Pop definitely thinks that Walker is someone worth making a point to.

I have no idea what that point is, but it is.

He probably thinks Walker's hair calls too much attention to himself and thus, he hasn't gotten over himself yet.

[BatManu20]

Lonnie! Should’ve been playing the entire game

[FkLA]

Wombat "the closer" Mills is going to be closing games for Pop all year. I can feel it.

:pctoss

[ZeusWillJudge]

Wombat "the closer" Mills is going to be closing games for Pop all year. I can feel it.

:pctoss


I wish I didn't believe that.

[GusT15]

And Kyle scores a touchdown in the tunnel!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1185384330132111360

[Spurs Brazil]

DeRozan with another 3

[BlackAndWhite]

Spurs STACKED

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AtTheLinePod/status/1185373389046853632

[Mr. Body]

Lonnie shows heat-up microwave potential.

[TheGreatYacht]

Shameful that Lonnie is relegated to clean up duty when everyone is active.

Carroll should start over Lyles, who doesn’t do anything at an above average level, and Lonnie should be the back up SF.

[GB20]

walker should not be on the bench

[GAustex]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1185384330132111360
Has derozen ever made a cut like that?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1185387245374771200

[timtonymanu]

Pop definitely thinks that Walker is someone worth making a point to.

I have no idea what that point is, but it is.

Pop doesn’t like athletes. He prefers one dimensional three point shooters with horrible defense. Same philosophy, different year.

[ace3g]

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


T. Lyles (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles)PF
16
0-3
0-2
0-0
1
5
6
1
0
0
2
2
+4
0


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)C
28
4-14
0-1
6-7
3
8
11
3
2
2
1
1
+9
14


D. Murray (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
20
0-3
0-0
1-4
0
7
7
3
2
0
2
3
+1
1


D. DeRozan (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan)SG
29
5-12
3-3
1-2
2
4
6
5
0
0
0
1
+12
14


B. Forbes (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
21
5-10
3-7
1-1
0
1
1
3
1
0
2
2
+12
14


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


C. Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283/chimezie-metu)PF
4
2-3
0-0
0-0
1
1
2
0
0
0
1
0
-3
4


L. Samanic (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4423309/luka-samanic)PF
4
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
-3
0


K. Johnson (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395723/keldon-johnson)SF
4
1-1
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
1
-3
2


R. Gay (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay)SF
20
5-11
3-6
0-0
0
7
7
3
0
0
2
3
+4
13


D. Carroll (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3970/demarre-carroll)SF
11
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
5
5
3
0
0
3
2
-1
0


J. Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908/jakob-poeltl)C
16
2-4
0-0
2-4
4
5
9
0
1
1
2
4
+7
6


D. White (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576/derrick-white)PG
19
0-4
0-1
2-4
2
4
6
4
1
1
0
1
+19
2


P. Mills (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
19
5-10
4-5
2-3
0
2
2
1
0
0
2
2
+4
16


Q. Weatherspoon (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907358/quinndary-weatherspoon)SG
4
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
2
-3
0


L. Walker IV (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890/lonnie-walker-iv)SG
8
4-6
0-0
1-1
0
1
1
0
1
0
0
1
+3
9


M. Belinelli (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli)SG
17
3-8
1-4
2-2
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
+3
9


D. Eubanks (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285/drew-eubanks)PF
DNP-COACH'S DECISION


D. Hommes (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4423888/daulton-hommes)F
DNP-COACH'S DECISION


TEAM

36-91
14-31
18-28
13
50
63
26
9
4
19
25

104




39.6%
45.2%
64.3%

[Ditty]

Imagine Lonnie, Murray, White, Aldridge...Kawhi line up:cry

[BatManu20]

Lonnie with 9 pts in 8 minutes.. against Memphis’ starters. Play the guy Pop..

[GAustex]

White +19

[ZeusWillJudge]

The whole right side of Murray's and White's stat sheets look good. But 3 points between them isn't going to cut it.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AtTheLinePod/status/1185385897451278336

[RC_Drunkford]

DeRozan 3/3 on 3s. If he got a reliable 3-point shot that changes everything

[Dex]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread

[ZeusWillJudge]

Lonnie with 9 pts in 8 minutes.. against Memphis’ starters. Play the guy Pop..


He's not as good at culture. And coffee. And stuff.

[spin8]

The Spurs young guys are so much more exciting to watch than the starters. No lie. I could care less if playing Walker or K. Johnson more loses the Spurs games, the style of ball is more enjoyable to watch compared to the awful slog that is that starting unit.

[FkLA]

Pop needs to stop being a faggot. This team is deep af and has a lot of potential if he just stops fucking around.

-cut Belli out of the rotation
-insert Lonnie
-cut Wombat's minutes
-more minutes for both White and Murray
-play White and Murray together
-profit

[tbdog]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread

Doesn't fit the Spurs talk criteria to hate DD

[RC_Drunkford]

Poeltl had a guard on him in the post, and instead of demanding the ball, he immediately ran up to set a screen for White. I hate that.

Makes no sense for Poeltl to demand the ball on a mismatch when he has no post moves at all. Hope Tim can teach him some. He had guards on him plenty of times against the Rockets too and just passed the ball back out

[TheGreatYacht]

What does Lyles even do tbh? I haven’t kept up with every game but his box scores are always Bertans in the playoffs-esque...

Just let Carroll start and switch to Samanic if there’s a bigger PF to deal with. Lyles has been a negative his whole career and Pop thinks it’s the move to start him :lol

[BillMc]

Doesn't fit the Spurs talk criteria to hate DD

+1

[Dejounte]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.

[FkLA]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread

I'm skeptical that this is just one bullshit game from him. He hadn't even attempted a single three all preseason prior to this.'


Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.

You're joking, right? Very little chance that's the case for Beli. Zero chance his pet Wombat is going anywhere.

[ZeusWillJudge]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread



I picked him to be the Spurs high-scorer tonight. And I would have won if Pop had left him in for 56 minutes.

If he keeps hitting them, and starts stretching defenses it's a big deal. Otherwise it's just a few extra points a game.

[raybies]

The whole right side of Murray's and White's stat sheets look good. But 3 points between them isn't going to cut it.
eh... we got the win. i noticed it too but the vets were flexing tonight apparently

[Dejounte]

I'm skeptical that this is just one bullshit game from him. He hadn't even attempted a single three all preseason prior to this.'



You're joking, right? Very little chance that's the case for Beli. Zero chance his pet Wombat is going anywhere.


Bet on it. $100 says at least one of them gets traded by mid season. Put your money where your mouth is. Yall love to be pessimistic but totally underestimate the strategic moves PATFO does.

[raybies]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.
showcasing what exactly?

I can see Beli possibly getting shopped at the trade deadline if Walker puts himself in the position where he has to be played...

[SpurPadre]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread

True but I worry that his style of play still doesn't mesh well with many of the other players.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.


Belli has been in the league 11 years, and is starting his 12th. He's been n 9 teams - 10 teams if you count SA twice. Everybody knows EXACTLY who/what Belli is. Everybody. You can't showcase that.

[Dejounte]

showcasing what exactly?

That they can "still play" and can still "compete". There be at least one stupid team. The Rockets lost Westbrook, maybe they need a PG now? It's going to happen and Ill be the first one to say I told you so.

[FkLA]

Bet on it. $100 says at least one of them gets traded by mid season. Put your money where your mouth is. Yall love to be pessimistic but totally underestimate the strategic moves PATFO does.

I'll bet you any amount you're willing to go up to that Wombat isn't going anywhere. Beli might.

[GB20]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.
I was thinking about that.

[raybies]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread
most definitely needs to be given more credit but one game is too small of a sample size. seems like a fluke game to me. would love to see more attempts over the course of the preseason but there wasn't.

[GAustex]

That they can "still play" and can still "compete". There be at least one stupid team. The Rockets lost Westbrook, maybe they need a PG now? It's going to happen and Ill be the first one to say I told you so.

Rockets lost Westbrook?

[raybies]

That they can "still play" and can still "compete". There be at least one stupid team. The Rockets lost Westbrook, maybe they need a PG now? It's going to happen and Ill be the first one to say I told you so.
pop is not moving Mills under any circumstance... he's untouchable lol

[sasaint]

DeMar 3/3 from three and hardly a reaction in this thread

Wow. We’re they flukey or in garbage time?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Rockets lost Westbrook?


He left A game with a sore right hand.

[BillMc]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.

You know with his recent international performance, Mills might have a window as a trade-able asset. Some NBA ex will be oversold on him.

[Dejounte]

He left A game with a sore right hand.

It was dislocated. Rockets being Rockets by not caring for their players health. DAntoni will run down that team. If it was any other team, Westbrook will be out. Rockets are all hype again and will burn out by post season. Its the same old NBA story. Organizations are who we thought they are. And the Spurs? Time after time the Spurs have proven they are ahead of the curve and people dont think they would prepare their young players when theyre ripe. Lonnie is ripe. I guarantee you Pop knows that. And Pop being Pop is doing Mills and Beli a favor by not burying them deep in the bench for a promising player and instead is trying to find a new home for them.

But no. No one gets it.

[SpurPadre]

You know with his recent international performance, Mills might have a window as a trade-able asset. Some NBA ex will be oversold on him.

For years, I've been hoping that Brett Brown would do us a solid and take him off our hands. If he doesn't want him, we're pretty much stuck with him, tbh.

[tbdog]

Pop needs to stop being a faggot. This team is deep af and has a lot of potential if he just stops fucking around.

-cut Belli out of the rotation
-insert Lonnie
-cut Wombat's minutes
-more minutes for both White and Murray
-play White and Murray together
-profit

It's preseason. All those things will occur as the season progresses.

[tbdog]

Wow. We’re they flukey or in garbage time?


Two were in the first quarter

[BillMc]

It's funny. This team is desperate for three point shooting. Yet, we unfortunately traded Davis for nothing, and people on here want to get rid of Mills and Belli ASAP.

At least people have come around on Forbes (for now.)

[timtonymanu]

It's funny. This team is desperate for three point shooting. Yet, we unfortunately traded Davis for nothing, and people on here want to get rid of Mills and Belli ASAP.

At least people have come around on Forbes (for now.)

More people are just fed up with overplaying them and everything they give back to other teams because of their defense. If Pop would just stick them in the Steve Kerr role, instead of making them rotation players, people wouldn't care as much.

[SpurPadre]

It's funny. This team is desperate for three point shooting. Yet, we unfortunately traded Davis for nothing, and people on here want to get rid of Mills and Belli ASAP.

At least people have come around on Forbes (for now.)

Forbes proved himself in the playoffs but he still shouldn't start in optimal circumstances.

[Dejounte]

It's funny. This team is desperate for three point shooting. Yet, we unfortunately traded Davis for nothing, and people on here want to get rid of Mills and Belli ASAP.

At least people have come around on Forbes (for now.)

Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Carroll are enough. We dont need one dimensional 3 pt specialists like Bertans, Mills, Beli anymore. Our players are good enough to shoot the 3s.

[Mr. Body]

Pop is showcasing Mills and Beli.

No one listens. No one gets it.

I think everyone in the league knows precisely who they are.

[SpurPadre]

I think everyone in the league knows precisely who they are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHiXADtvzQU&app=desktop

[RC_Drunkford]

Belinelli is fine as your 11th man. Somebody you sub in occassionally when nothing is falling or you're down 10+ and have to make a run. Pop just has to let Walker be the 10th man and slide Beli to 11th.

What's more concerning to me is that Carroll and Lyles look like pure garbage and we are paying them 5.5 million per year each. With the way they have performed upto now, Šamanić has a legit chance to start at PF

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/20/c8/phU7TWL7_o.gif

[SpurPadre]

Belinelli is fine as your 11th man. Somebody you sub in occassionally when nothing is falling or you're down 10+ and have to make a run. Pop just has to let Walker be the 10th man and slide Beli to 11th.

What's more concerning to me is that Carroll and Lyles look like pure garbage and we are paying them 5.5 million per year each. With the way they have performed upto now, Šamanić has a legit chance to start at PF

Where would that leave Mills in that scenario?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1185409579078864898

[KobesAchilles]

I see no reason why Luka shouldn’t be starting by January. Lyles is trash and he isn’t going to get any better bc he has sucked at 2 well run franchises before he even got to us. Carrol is done too. I liked him as an 11th man not as a starter.

Luka needs time to bulk up and learn the system but he can dribble a bit, can pass a bit, and knock down a 3. It seems like a no brainer to start him early February except for :pop:

[raybies]

I see no reason why Luka shouldn’t be starting by January. Lyles is trash and he isn’t going to get any better bc he has sucked at 2 well run franchises before he even got to us. Carrol is done too. I liked him as an 11th man not as a starter.

Luka needs time to bulk up and learn the system but he can dribble a bit, can pass a bit, and knock down a 3. It seems like a no brainer to start him early February except for :pop:

somebody here said we were gonna get frustrated that he was playing undeserved minutes here and I think that's looking like a solid bet... he's a placeholder at this point. he spaces the floor somewhat but that's only until teams decide not to guard him cause he's not making any. he plays solid though... just doesn't score. i guess we need more time

[wildcardX]

We all knew Lyles was a cheap reclamation replacement project coming to the team. The Spurs are not miracle workers, can't expect them to turn things around this fast(if ever). At least Lyles so far looks like he is committed to working hard and is a team player. Would much rather have him around the rest of the team than that headcase Morris, even if Morris can produce more in games.

[raybies]

We all knew Lyles was a cheap reclamation replacement project coming to the team. The Spurs are not miracle workers, can't expect them to turn things around this fast(if ever). At least Lyles so far looks like he is committed to working hard and is a team player. Would much rather have him around the rest of the team than that headcase Morris, even if Morris can produce more in games.
That's a valid point although our ceiling is somewhat lower. Lyles is playing solid, it's just if he could only make the three he would be invaluable. Would love his skill set with Bertans' shooting.

[Chinook]

I think we're going to see DeRozan play the four more times than just tonight. He can check most threes, and fours just keep getting smaller. Definitely guys like Anderson and Clarke aren't backing DeMar down, but even guys like Gallo and Draymond don't really have the mentality to try to exploit that mismatch. Getting three of Walker, Murray, White and Forbes out with DeRozan and Aldridge is definitely intriguing.

It's not that I don't think Gay and Carroll can be good for the team. Rudy especially might win a number of games this year. But he doesn't really have the mobility to simulate what a four-guard unit could.

[raybies]

I hope it's just preseason but Rudy is looking really stiff out there. He can't guard anyone and Demarre has been hit or miss, mostly miss. I know it's not time for a punt but if crap hits the fan it'd be a great year to be sellers at the deadline and still have the potential to be competitive. Murray, White and Walker are looking like the future. We just need to see a little more and get an excuse. I think as far as impact goes Murray, and White are already better players than DD. DD just takes usage from those too. Murray goes from career night without Demarr to what, 1 point... lol

All in all still need some more time but the kids are growing up fast. It's not hard to see the writing on the wall. I just hope we don't extend DD.

[gospursgojas]

Doesn't fit the Spurs talk criteria to hate DD

This. ST has become a bunch of spurs/DD/LA/Pop hating cry babies. Are there even spurs fans left?

[NASpurs]

This. ST has become a bunch of spurs/DD/LA/Pop hating cry babies. Are there even spurs fans left?

No there’s still real fans here. What you’re looking for is to find Spurs fans to jerk one another. Might wanna head over to reddit where you’ll find your kind.

[timtonymanu]

This. ST has become a bunch of spurs/DD/LA/Pop hating cry babies. Are there even spurs fans left?

I'm sure T Park, Manny, Marcus, all those faggots you praise will post from time to time.

[raybies]

This. ST has become a bunch of spurs/DD/LA/Pop hating cry babies. Are there even spurs fans left?
Love my Spurs... but we don't have warriors like the Big 3. I'm fine with LMA. I just don't think DD is ready to be in the role he needs to be and I don't know if he is mentally stable enough to be a number one option. I'll root for him cause he's apart of the team, I just think we need to go in another direction. His mental breakdown in the Denver series did a number on me. Throwing the ball like he did was very anti spur brother and that I don't vibe with.

Even Pop pushed the aging big 3 to the side and groomed Kawhi to be the face of the franchise. IMO if he feels the kids are ripe he'll make room.

[raybies]

on a side note... Demar was from a trade and LMA was a Free Agent signing. Would love to go back to the whole home cooking recipe. Feels like we got a lot of mercenaries on the team. I'm all for supporting the youth and embracing the future. I'm not saying any trades now. I want to run with what we have but if crap hits the fan, it's a good year to sell. We got one of the best young cores in the league. Lots of people are noticing. I just hope PATFO can make that decision when the time is right. A lot of people knew this was gonna be a bridge after the Big 3... now we actually got a core to build around.

[monty4329]

Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Carroll are enough. We dont need one dimensional 3 pt specialists like Bertans, Mills, Beli anymore. Our players are good enough to shoot the 3s.

WTF ?

[Fireball]

just watched the game ...Murray and White seem way too inconsistent offensively... Carroll stays a bust ... demar hitting threes probably was an anomaly as he did not try all preseason ... Walker will not be in the rotation to start the season ... i have no clue about lyles .. will he start in the season opener?

[duncan2k5]

What kind of shit line up is this? Zero excuse for not having one of White, Murray, DD on the floor at all times. Looks like Pop is going to pull his stupid shit again this year.

U really expected different? Expect a long season of short leashes for our more promising young players... Long leashes for the old guys, and Walker inexplicably getting little to no playing time in random games

[duncan2k5]

I’m tired of having talented players we can play just sitting on the bench waiting for their turn which won’t happen unless an injury occurs. Then and only then will Pops hand be forced.

And we wonder why ppl don't wanna come here

[Rocalcio]

This. ST has become a bunch of spurs/DD/LA/Pop hating cry babies. Are there even spurs fans left?

Agreed.

[Dhbsr555]

So we are really going to play belli over walker .. unbelievable

[RD2191]

No there’s still real fans here. What you’re looking for is to find Spurs fans to jerk one another. Might wanna head over to reddit where you’ll find your kind.

Tbh

[ZeusWillJudge]

It was dislocated. Rockets being Rockets by not caring for their players health. DAntoni will run down that team. If it was any other team, Westbrook will be out. Rockets are all hype again and will burn out by post season. Its the same old NBA story. Organizations are who we thought they are. And the Spurs? Time after time the Spurs have proven they are ahead of the curve and people dont think they would prepare their young players when theyre ripe. Lonnie is ripe. I guarantee you Pop knows that. And Pop being Pop is doing Mills and Beli a favor by not burying them deep in the bench for a promising player and instead is trying to find a new home for them.

But no. No one gets it.


The Beta is strong with you, young Padwan. (Which is a nice way of saying you're such a pussy.) You obviously never played basketball - fingers get jammed all the time, especially PG fingers. Sometimes they get dislocated. Westbrook already had dislocated a couple of fingers, and last night he re-aggravated one of them. I don't even know if it dislocated last night but it's still a long way from "Rockets lost Westbrook.)

BTW - D'Antoni held Westchuck out for one or two of the early preseason games because of fingers. He immediately said he would hold him out for the rest of last night's game, regardless of what they saw in the locker room. Even a broken clock is right a couple of times a day. I think I'm going to start calling you Timex - if you ever get anything right.

I know, I know. No one gets you.

[Dejounte]

Going with personal attacks now? What got in your panties?

[Dejounte]

Im still dumbfounded how it escalates that quickly with you... Sensitive much? Holy shit...

[TD 21]

I don't understand this PG rotation. Pop only allows Murray or White to play PG ... but this is the second straight game that Pop carves out minutes for Mills at point guard too.


Frustrating.


Trying to play a lineup that can spread the floor, particularly for his 2 best players.

I suspect we'll only see Murray-White together when DeRozan nominally plays "PF", so they can have one of the 3 shooters on the floor.


I don't think he gets that at all, and why should he?

With free agency practically over and all the money spent, he realistically was looking at a minimum. People who covered the nuggets laughed about him being the worst player on the roster in some nuggets season preview podcast I listened to.

But RC and Pop bailed him and Klutch out with $5 million for no reason.

If anything, Lyles might think he's underpaid and resents the Spurs for not giving him Morris money.

Actually, that was one of the smarter things they've done in recent years (low bar, but still). Since the Spurs are well over the cap/under the tax, whether Lyles got the minimum or $5.5M made no functional difference . . . except that by giving him the latter, it gave them another sizable, expendable salary and if added to Belinelli, they can now take back a near $15M dollar player.



I think we're going to see DeRozan play the four more times than just tonight. He can check most threes, and fours just keep getting smaller. Definitely guys like Anderson and Clarke aren't backing DeMar down, but even guys like Gallo and Draymond don't really have the mentality to try to exploit that mismatch. Getting three of Walker, Murray, White and Forbes out with DeRozan and Aldridge is definitely intriguing.


It's not that I don't think Gay and Carroll can be good for the team. Rudy especially might win a number of games this year. But he doesn't really have the mobility to simulate what a four-guard unit could.

Yeah, as I said the other day and up above, DeRozan masquerading as a "PF" in certain matchups is the path to unlocking Murray-White together because it leaves room for one of the 3 shooters. It also covers up the fact that they don't have a stretch 4.