Official Dejounte Murray aka "Instagram Baller" Apology Thread

[raybies]

Not really gonna make people eat crow... just say sorry and pledge your allegiance... that is all

[BWS-1994]

The Future!

[dabom6]

:lol

[gambit1990]

some of ST does have crow to eat. not me though :tu

[timtonymanu]

He made such an improvement to his game. I’m sold now.

[daslicer]

If he continues to work hard he can be a Gary Payton clone.

[spurraider21]

my dude FkLA has to repent every day tbh

[raybies]

my dude FkLA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213) has to repent every day tbh
his sins are forgiven.. he came to the light in preseason

[duncan2k5]

TOLD YALL! he is aggressive going to the rim and looking for his shots...all i ever wanted...now to see if he remains aggressive when he starts having a bad game...thats what separates the role players from the stars...

[spurraider21]

his sins are forgiven.. he came to the light in preseason
cant be that easy after a year of not only shitting on him but constantly suggesting he be traded tbh :lol...

[Mugen]

Not gonna lie, White >>>> Instagram but that skinny fuck is gonna be a problem for the league tbh :lol

[timtonymanu]

Not gonna lie, White >>>> Instagram but that skinny fuck is gonna be a problem for the league tbh :lol

If only Pop had the same love affair for playing that duo like he has with wombat and Beli

[gambit1990]

i was on the money per usual, months before preseason:

it's actually great people have such low expectations for murray... he's gonna surprise a lot of you.

[SpurPadre]

Not gonna lie, White >>>> Instagram but that skinny fuck is gonna be a problem for the league tbh :lol

Stubborn with the White being better, tbh. I'd like to see them both on the floor together though.

[Chinook]

It's like he came out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber or something. He still has some issues, but if that level of finishing is sustainable, he's going to be a solid offensive player this year, and that's really what he needs to go along with a more-complete defensive game.

[BatManu20]

Already one of our 2 best players tbh. Just turned 23. He’s gonna be a stud.

[timtonymanu]

I knew my nigga Mugen’s post would get the attention of a certain poster lol

[DAF86]

18, 8, 6, 3. Beautiful. If he could provide close to those averages all season long, his contract will become the biggest bargain in the league.

I want to see those three point attempts go up though.

[SpurPadre]

18, 8, 6, 3. Beautiful. If he could provide close to those averages all season long, his contract will become the biggest bargain in the league.

I want to see those three point attempts go up though.

It's a good-looking shot too.

[Mugen]

If only Pop had the same love affair for playing that duo like he has with wombat and Beli

My dude, you and I both knew Fatty and Meatballs would continue to get their minutes. But even in my wildest dreams, I didn't think Pop could keep Murray and DWhite from playing a single second together but the old man did it again :lol

[spurraider21]

It's like he came out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber or something. He still has some issues, but if that level of finishing is sustainable, he's going to be a solid offensive player this year, and that's really what he needs to go along with a more-complete defensive game.
Yeah but did actually train for a year

[SpurPadre]

Gotta believe Murray and White will eventually have some minutes together.

[timtonymanu]

My dude, you and I both knew Fatty and Meatballs would continue to get their minutes. But even in my wildest dreams, I didn't think Pop could keep Murray and DWhite from playing a single second together but the old man did it again :lol

But T Pork swore to us on his life that Wombat’s minutes would drop and he would be a mentor player this year. I almost believed it. I guess his sources were no better than Jeff’s

[acoelho1]

He's only scratched the surface of his talent and his play making in this game and preseason is demonstratively better. In fact, I thought Murray ran the team better than White, who most on this forum believes the latter was vastly superior on that end.

[raybies]

Gotta believe Murray and White will eventually have some minutes together.
it's actually perplexing... my only theory is that he's trying to give them the space to grow in their own bubbles that way they can maximize growth...

[Chinook]

Yeah but did actually train for a year

Yeah. I was gonna say something like that he went to Namek or that his injury gave him a zenkai boost, but I thought that was getting too obscure.

[Down Under]

Handles are tighter, balance & finishing is way better

[SpurPadre]

it's actually perplexing... my only theory is that he's trying to give them the space to grow in their own bubbles that way they can maximize growth...

Imagine Manu and TP never playing together!

[raybies]

Handles are tighter, balance & finishing is way better
he's as complete a package as you'll see in the league... he just needs reps and to work on his decision making

[DJR210]

Can we get a wellness check on FkLA please

[FkLA]

cant be that easy after a year of not only shitting on him but constantly suggesting he be traded tbh :lol...

Let's be accurate though. I never said IB sucked, just that his instagram game was bigger than his real game. I suggested he be traded bc I felt it would stunt White's growth, which he kinda has (thanks to Pop's love for his pet Wombat and to a lesser extent Belli).

Glad he's here though and happy to eat crow. :tu

[FkLA]

His shot improvement is crazy too. Outside of Nephew, I can't think of many (if any) player that has had such a drastic improvement in such a short amount of time. Chip is a boss and it's proof that Nephew wouldn't be the player he is today without the Spurs.

[spurraider21]

Yeah. I was gonna say something like that he went to Namek or that his injury gave him a zenkai boost, but I thought that was getting too obscure.
:lol

may have asked this, but are you familiar with the abridged series by TeamFourStar? some of the best content ive seen tbh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjDV9OgN_9I

[Dennis the Menace]

it's actually perplexing... my only theory is that he's trying to give them the space to grow in their own bubbles that way they can maximize growth...

Thats the only reason I can think of. Then once they’ve both blossomed they can close games together

[Russ]

Murray is going to get a lot of national press this year.

Even with his contract status, get ready for the speculation.

[BD24]

18, 8, 6, 3. Beautiful. If he could provide close to those averages all season long, his contract will become the biggest bargain in the league.

I want to see those three point attempts go up though.
And he did that shit in only 24 minutes because :lol Pop

[Play Boban]

Not really gonna make people eat crow... just say sorry and pledge your allegiance... that is all
One game boy

[TimDunkem]

It's early, but he looks good. Now let's package Depression, Wombat, and the corpse of Belli and get some talent around him.

[KDKSpurs24]

This year he will only take spot up 3s but just wait.. It will be the same shooting plan Kawhi was on. He will use next offseason to start hitting 3s off the dribble. It’s a process and they won’t be skipping any steps with him. I say that to say that he is on the same trajectory as Kawhi was but this is the point guard version. He is already a complete basketball player when it comes to being able to do everything on both ends but eventually with his work ethic he should be able to reach almost elite status with his tools and talent.

[NASpurs]

Not going to lie, I thought all that IG stuff he was posting was all talk and fluff. I’m glad to eat crow even if it’s still early.

[Dancelot]

Him and Nephew together would’ve been something special

[KobesAchilles]

I’m sorry for doubting him :cry

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

it's actually perplexing... my only theory is that he's trying to give them the space to grow in their own bubbles that way they can maximize growth...

Na, he's just a senile old fool at this point who still thinks he can win games trotting out a Ferrari / Wombat lineup.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Thank you, Based God!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Let's be accurate though. I never said IB sucked, just that his instagram game was bigger than his real game. I suggested he be traded bc I felt it would stunt White's growth, which he kinda has (thanks to Pop's love for his pet Wombat and to a lesser extent Belli).

Glad he's here though and happy to eat crow. :tu

White's growth has stunted because the guy refuses to play with any aggression. In tonight's game, there were spots when we needed someone to go get a bucket and he decided to stay at 10% speed for the entirety of his time on the floor.

[TDomination]

Him and Nephew together would’ve been something special

now this just makes me cry

that was our future. Patfo had it aligned. Murray, White, Green, Kawhi, Aldridge. This would’ve been sick

[ZeusWillJudge]

he's as complete a package as you'll see in the league... he just needs reps and to work on his decision making

And a few more pounds of muscle. I know he's bulked up some, but he still looks light to me. I think he could put on a bit more without sacrificing speed. He's going to need it defending bigger guys, and other teams are going to get physical with him more, to see how he takes it.



White's growth has stunted because the guy refuses to play with any aggression. In tonight's game, there were spots when we needed someone to go get a bucket and he decided to stay at 10% speed for the entirety of his time on the floor.


It's hard for a guy with White's background to feel like he really belongs. Getting pushed out of the SL won't help that, either. There's not much worse than self-doubt for an athlete, especially in a fast-paced game. Last year he was pretty underwhelming, and then he had a breakout game against the C's (I think), and he was like a different player after that. He may need a game like that to light a fire under his ass this year.

[MannyIsGod]

His shot improvement is crazy too. Outside of Nephew, I can't think of many (if any) player that has had such a drastic improvement in such a short amount of time. Chip is a boss and it's proof that Nephew wouldn't be the player he is today without the Spurs.

I mean the only reason I can think of that you would think this is that the Spurs haven't had many raw rookies lately. I can't imagine that many players who are 20 don't show great improvement over the next two years. He was just young but the athleticism was there.

Lets hope he keeps it up (and lets hope that White joins him in the lineup soon).

[GreekSpursfan]

Nice first game, he's gonna have his ups and downs but we found the pg of the future. Now we need a star two way wing and a big that can spread the floor and we're set.

[timvp]

To be fair, most doubters stopped doubting in preseason.

[raybies]

And a few more pounds of muscle. I know he's bulked up some, but he still looks light to me. I think he could put on a bit more without sacrificing speed. He's going to need it defending bigger guys, and other teams are going to get physical with him more, to see how he takes it.
See i would buy that argument although he doesn't have a post game and he's finishing through contact already... more would be fine but it's not necessary. I guess I can see it if he needs the bulk to guard big threes but even then he shouldn't...

[raybies]

To be fair, most doubters stopped doubting in preseason.
had to wait for the real thing to make it official :tu

[apalisoc_9]

Why is he wearing kawhis shoes though?

[raybies]

Reign over SA Dejounte :cry

[ZeusWillJudge]

See i would buy that argument although he doesn't have a post game and he's finishing through contact already... more would be fine but it's not necessary. I guess I can see it if he needs the bulk to guard big threes but even then he shouldn't...


No sense arguing about it right now. Later in the season, though, remember the conversation. The first thing I mentioned was defense - he's going to be defending bigger players. The extra bulk/strength would widen the range of players he can square up against.

On the offensive end, I said that I expect opposing teams to start testing him with more physicality, as he starts having more success. That's future tense. If I'm right, it means that he'll have to do more than what he's currently doing about finishing through contact. I hate to even mention the name "Kawhi" here, but if you look back his success blossomed quite a bit as he put on all that muscle. It's not the only thing responsible, but it's definitely a part of it.

Don't take it personally. I was just commenting that he could stand to bulk up a little more than he already has. He's young, and I think he will do it pretty naturally. But let's wait and see if the other teams don't start playing him more physically as a way of trying to slow him down. If he's as good as we hope, they'll need to do something - to me that's the most logical and likely thing to try.

[Bojo]

When was the last time the Spurs had a player as exciting to watch as Dejounte was tonight? He's bleeding attitude, this will be his team very very soon.

[TheRemix]

now this just makes me cry

that was our future. Patfo had it aligned. Murray, White, Green, Kawhi, Aldridge. This would’ve been sick

Fuck man. The league would've been fucked

[ElNono]

I mean, he had one good game against the freaking Knicks at home. This thread is super premature, tbh...

[Robz4000]

Yeah. I was gonna say something like that he went to Namek or that his injury gave him a zenkai boost, but I thought that was getting too obscure.

Does that mean he can go super saiyan tbh?

[RC_Drunkford]

Had a good game tonight for sure but those were the Knicks and teams will adjust their scouting reports on him. He had games like this at the beginning of the season 2 years ago as well. His finishing around the rim is impressive and the jumper looks good. I'm excited to see how he progresses during the season, he will only get better

[SayTown]

Yes at the beginning of the 2017 season he was on a tear and a lot of the media was saying he was going to be an all star and that the Spurs struck gold again and then he regressed to the mean for most of the rest of the season. It's still early but im excited to see if he can keep his level of play up for an entire season which I believe he can and will.

[Chinook]

:lol

may have asked this, but are you familiar with the abridged series by TeamFourStar? some of the best content ive seen tbh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjDV9OgN_9I

I watched the shit out of DBZA back in the day. I think outside of the movies, it's been losing a lot of steam lately. Even accounting for the upload schedule, there have been way more misses in recent episodes. Do like Cell though.

[acoelho1]

To be fair, most doubters stopped doubting in preseason.

Although, you are still clinging to White probably being the better pro. I don't think it's even close.

[ceperez]

Yes, he's much better than I expected!

[Rosewood]

18, 8, 6, 3. Beautiful. If he could provide close to those averages all season long, his contract will become the biggest bargain in the league.

I want to see those three point attempts go up though. Great stat line for coming off a major injury & only in a handful of minutes.

Everytime Dejounte stepped onto the court we start playing 10x better.

Trade DeRozan, cut Patty. Hell even Lyles looked pretty good. But Patty/Belinelli is straight awful.

[drpill]

Seems pretty clear that DJ is the present and future of this team. I'm very happy to see his passion and determination is more than talk and translates directly to the game. As for White vs Murray, I dislike the argument in general, but as a big White fan it's obvious to me that Murray has a confidence and mental edge that Derrick might lack. Derrick's got tons of ability and an all around game that I love to watch (when it's on point), but he needs to shake the self doubt if he's going to be on the level that Dejounte is tracking toward.

[Dejounte]

One other young player needs to rise up

We have our Tony Parker/ head of the snake in Dejounte

Who will be our Manu? White? Lonnie?

[look_at_g_shred]

His energy and aggressiveness is such welcome sight from the stale and timid offense we've had the past 2 season's. Definitely has westbrook vibes, but an efficient WB. And i didn't even mention his defense :wow

[TheGreatYacht]

To think MVParker was the one that told Pop to start the kid despite still being the best guard on the team :wow

[r0drig0lac]

only people who understand absolutely nothing about the game doubt this guy

[Kobe'sAchilles]

:lol

may have asked this, but are you familiar with the abridged series by TeamFourStar? some of the best content ive seen tbh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjDV9OgN_9I
It's better than the original tbh.

[duncan2k5]

His shot improvement is crazy too. Outside of Nephew, I can't think of many (if any) player that has had such a drastic improvement in such a short amount of time. Chip is a boss and it's proof that Nephew wouldn't be the player he is today without the Spurs.

That's such a silly assessment... Other teams have shooting coaches too... Fox came in a horrible shooter and in one year became really good... But if he were on the Spurs u would have said that here was the only place he could have done it

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[duncan2k5]

Yes at the beginning of the 2017 season he was on a tear and a lot of the media was saying he was going to be an all star and that the Spurs struck gold again and then he regressed to the mean for most of the rest of the season. It's still early but im excited to see if he can keep his level of play up for an entire season which I believe he can and will.

I said it during that season... DJ wasn't handled properly by Pop... He was taken out of games for one mistake... There were games he just randomly didn't play... He was in and out of the starting lineup... A player that age needs consistency to grow and gain confidence... He was super passive after pop started his shtick because he knew if he made one mistake, it's off to the bench

[Dejounte]

I said it during that season... DJ wasn't handled properly by Pop... He was taken out of games for one mistake... There were games he just randomly didn't play... He was in and out of the starting lineup... A player that age needs consistency to grow and gain confidence... He was super passive after pop started his shtick because he knew if he made one mistake, it's off to the bench

Or...he was handled properly and because Pop was hard on him, Murray learned to be the player who he is today. Thats why you see teams with young players who they play a lot and they stay mediocre forever. Where Pop teaches professionalism, others just throw players to the wolves. But ... You will never understand or admit this because of your "hate on Pop" schtick because you think youre an actual NBA coach or executive who thinks he knows what goes on behind the scenes ...lmao

[Trill Clinton]

Where did the nickname instagram baller come from? Sounds like some lowkey hating shit tbh.

[Dejounte]

When I said DJ could become a better player than Nephew, people scoffed. Lmao

DJ is more explosive than Nephew...who looks like he just does his best to slowly bull doze through players to get an awkward shot. DJ drives to the lane like #20. Just slithers through. He's also a natural passer and has a great feel for where his teammates are on the court.

[look_at_g_shred]

Where did the nickname instagram baller come from? Sounds like some lowkey hating shit tbh.
It came from him posting his workouts and recovery on IG. Everyone claimed that he was just doing it for show, since Derrick White was showing out last season.

[timvp]

Although, you are still clinging to White probably being the better pro. I don't think it's even close.

Spurs fans don't even need opposing fans because they pit their own players against each other :lol

For the record, I'm still very high on D White. His BBIQ, size and athleticism gives him a very good shot of having a long, successful career. After the season, we'll see if Murray or White has emerged as the no-brainer better long-term player. As it stands, it's a close call ... with White, IMO, getting the nod because of injury concerns.

Thankfully, they are both on the Spurs so I'm thrilled if even one of the two becomes a certified star.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I hope Murray keeps balling like he did last night. He shot looks super smooth and his handle is a bit better.

he still has to tighten his handle a bit more and needs to cut down on the turnovers.

I’m very excited for his progression.

[raybies]

Thankfully, they are both on the Spurs so I'm thrilled if even one of the two becomes a certified star.

Exactly. It shouldn't of got to that point... That was my argument from the beginning... The purpose of the thread was not to start a debated talk about who's better, just to unite under one roof. We are very lucky to have both and we should want both to be as good as they can. That is the hope and the future of this team and contending again.

I didn't make anyone eat crow... Just put it behind us and move forward with this new exciting team. The future looks very bright.

[BD24]

Where did the nickname instagram baller come from? Sounds like some lowkey hating shit tbh.
Jealous virgins on this site tbh.

[tonight...you]

I watched the shit out of DBZA back in the day. I think outside of the movies, it's been losing a lot of steam lately. Even accounting for the upload schedule, there have been way more misses in recent episodes. Do like Cell though.
Only anime I have ever seen was the Hellsing series.
I really liked the jazzy soundtrack.

[KobesAchilles]

Where did the nickname instagram baller come from? Sounds like some lowkey hating shit tbh.
Ain’t nothing low key about it. It’s a straight up insult

[Dex]

Spurs fans don't even need opposing fans because they pit their own players against each other :lol

For the record, I'm still very high on D White. His BBIQ, size and athleticism gives him a very good shot of having a long, successful career. After the season, we'll see if Murray or White has emerged as the no-brainer better long-term player. As it stands, it's a close call ... with White, IMO, getting the nod because of injury concerns.

Thankfully, they are both on the Spurs so I'm thrilled if even one of the two becomes a certified star.

People have been clamoring for the Spurs' youth movement for years, and now we have two young, exciting guards with different skillsets who can guard multiple positions...and people already want to turn it into a pissing contest ala Tony vs. Manu.

Pretty sure the Spurs value both players and want them as pieces of the long-term puzzle. But as someone who grew up as a youngest child, my father told me all the time that there is a pecking order. You don't just start both for the sake of starting both if that's not what is best for the team.

And yes, I know that people are gonna bring up Mills and Beli, but the fact is they are still two of the best shooters on a team starved of shooting.

[r0drig0lac]

Ain’t nothing low key about it. It’s a straight up insult

[SayTown]

Or...he was handled properly and because Pop was hard on him, Murray learned to be the player who he is today. Thats why you see teams with young players who they play a lot and they stay mediocre forever. Where Pop teaches professionalism, others just throw players to the wolves. But ... You will never understand or admit this because of your "hate on Pop" schtick because you think youre an actual NBA coach or executive who thinks he knows what goes on behind the scenes ...lmao

Lol he will forever think Pop ran Kawhi out of town, forgive him he know's not what he thinks.

[KobesAchilles]

People have been clamoring for the Spurs' youth movement for years, and now we have two young, exciting guards with different skillsets who can guard multiple positions...and people already want to turn it into a pissing contest ala Tony vs. Manu.

Pretty sure the Spurs value both players and want them as pieces of the long-term puzzle. But as someone who grew up as a youngest child, my father told me all the time that there is a pecking order. You don't just start both for the sake of starting both if that's not what is best for the team.

And yes, I know that people are gonna bring up Mills and Beli, but the fact is they are still two of the best shooters on a team starved of shooting.
:lol the dude who shot 13% from 3 in the playoffs last year and went and missed 8 outta 11 shots last night is our best shooter. And Beli doesn’t score enough for his shooting to matter compared to what he gives up.

[acoelho1]

Spurs fans don't even need opposing fans because they pit their own players against each other :lol

For the record, I'm still very high on D White. His BBIQ, size and athleticism gives him a very good shot of having a long, successful career. After the season, we'll see if Murray or White has emerged as the no-brainer better long-term player. As it stands, it's a close call ... with White, IMO, getting the nod because of injury concerns.

Thankfully, they are both on the Spurs so I'm thrilled if even one of the two becomes a certified star.

I’m really not pitting them against each other and I genuinely don’t think there is comparison. Also, I don’t need to see the finished product to make an assessment on a player. I’ve seen enough to show me that Murray is special talent, a all NBA player and I was saying that before this season. Some guys just have those intangibles that you can’t teach and given he’s with the best development team in the business, it’s a question of when not if he makes that jump. Btw.. I really like White and he will be a very good pro but I don’t see the confidence needed to take his game to the next level. It’s either you have it or you don’t in my opinion.

[Dex]

:lol the dude who shot 13% from 3 in the playoffs last year and went and missed 8 outta 11 shots last night is our best shooter. And Beli doesn’t score enough for his shooting to matter compared to what he gives up.

Yeah, because 8 games make a whole career. :rolleyes

I'm sure other teams are just gonna leave Mills wide-fucking-open because he shot poorly for a couple weeks.

You obviously don't understand how spacing works, but keep on hating.

[FkLA]

I’m really not pitting them against each other and I genuinely don’t think there is comparison. Also, I don’t need to see the finished product to make an assessment on a player. I’ve seen enough to show me that Murray is special talent, a all NBA player and I was saying that before this season. Some guys just have those intangibles that you can’t teach and given he’s with the best development team in the business, it’s a question of when not if he makes that jump. Btw.. I really like White and he will be a very good pro but I don’t see the confidence needed to take his game to the next level. It’s either you have it or you don’t in my opinion.

Recency bias. This whole notion that White is not mentally strong only started because of his Game 7 performance. Nobody questioned his mental toughness prior to that and he was considered the most enjoyable Spur to watch last season by pretty much all of ST. He had his share of games that were better than Murray's performance yesterday. That Game 3 where he willed the team to a playoff win is still greater than anything Murray has ever done.

He needs to atleast get his midrange back so he can regain last season's form though. This current version of White, who's offense consists of only driving, is definitely not close to Murray. I'm starting to worry that a significant improvement in his three isnt going to happen until next year with an entire offseason with Chip. I'd settle with him just getting his midrange back at this point, tbh.

[FkLA]

Yeah, because 8 games make a whole career. :rolleyes

I'm sure other teams are just gonna leave Mills wide-fucking-open because he shot poorly for a couple weeks.

You obviously don't understand how spacing works, but keep on hating.

Can't believe there's still fans that don't dislike Wombat. :lol

[callo1]

Loved the low dribble. That old high dribble was holding him back.

Always respected the young man. So glad all of his hard work is paying off.

[Mikeanaro]

Sure, and you are gonna eat crow the next game, and playoff disgraces coming too.
1 game and the future is decided forever...
Tiago Splitter had his godly game once, and then sucked in and out.

[Dex]

Can't believe there's still fans that don't dislike Wombat. :lol

Can't believe there are fans out there who think that just throwing a bunch of poor-shooting, young and inexperienced players out on the floor is going to equate to good basketball.

In all fairness, I could live without Beli...he's washed up and needs to be riding the bench (and I loved what Beli did in 2014). But Mills still has his place in this team and organization, whether you like it or not.

[GusT15]

Agree on the criticism about the Instagram Baller nickname.

He was equally active on Twitter.


I thought FkLA came up with that name.That's who i heard it from first at least.

[raybies]

Can't believe there are fans out there who think that just throwing a bunch of poor-shooting, young and inexperienced players out on the floor is going to equate to good basketball.

In all fairness, I could live without Beli...he's washed up and needs to be riding the bench (and I loved what Beli did in 2014). But Mills still has his place in this team and organization, whether you like it or not.
I agree. I'm can accept Mills in the second unit just not beli.

[NASpurs]

Patty was great when Manu was spoon feeding him but not so much anymore.

[tonight...you]

I agree. I'm can accept Mills in the second unit just not beli.
Beli needs to be traded stat.

[FkLA]

Can't believe there are fans out there who think that just throwing a bunch of poor-shooting, young and inexperienced players out on the floor is going to equate to good basketball.

In all fairness, I could live without Beli...he's washed up and needs to be riding the bench (and I loved what Beli did in 2014). But Mills still has his place in this team and organization, whether you like it or not.

If he was just out there spotting up it'd be one thing. If you haven't realized by now that Pop over values him and has empowered him to an unhealthy point then I don't know what to tell you. He takes way too many stupid ass shots, gets plays drawn up for him, is a traffic cone on defense, closes Game 7s. Fuck him. Fuck Belli too. This team would be better off without both of them, nothing needed in return. Addition by subtraction.

[KobesAchilles]

Yeah, because 8 games make a whole career. :rolleyes

I'm sure other teams are just gonna leave Mills wide-fucking-open because he shot poorly for a couple weeks.

You obviously don't understand how spacing works, but keep on hating.

It’s not spacing if you don’t make the shot. Look up his playoff stats the year before and the year before that. The dude hasn’t performed well in the playoffs since 2014. Keep defending Mills all you want but it’s 5 bad playoff years in a row. How many does he need for you to realize he doesn’t space the floor? 6 years :lol

[FkLA]

Agree on the criticism about the Instagram Baller nickname.

He was equally active on Twitter.


I thought FkLA came up with that name.That's who i heard it from first at least.

I didn't come up with it, I just ran with it like I did with the Wombat nickname. IIRC I want to say TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) came up with it.

This started way before last season btw. He's been posting corny workout vids or stuff about "chasing greatness" for years now. This is the first year where his play on the court actually backs up his instagram game. Still remember how disappointing that egg he laid in Summer League heading into his sophomore year was.


It’s not spacing if you don’t make the shot. Look up his playoff stats the year before and the year before that. The dude hasn’t performed well in the playoffs since 2014. Keep defending Mills all you want but it’s 5 bad playoff years in a row. How many does he need for you to realize he doesn’t space the floor? 6 years :lol

Did you notice how he led the failed comeback in Game 7 though? They looked dead in the water before he came in for White. :rolleyes

[davidbowie]

my guy just had to drop that dead weight gf Jilly and now he's thriving.

good to see

[acoelho1]

Recency bias. This whole notion that White is not mentally strong only started because of his Game 7 performance. Nobody questioned his mental toughness prior to that and he was considered the most enjoyable Spur to watch last season by pretty much all of ST. He had his share of games that were better than Murray's performance yesterday.

That's not really true. Pop was telling him through out the year that he needs to believe he belongs. Nevertheless, as I said, he will be a solid pro.

[duncan2k5]

Or...he was handled properly and because Pop was hard on him, Murray learned to be the player who he is today. Thats why you see teams with young players who they play a lot and they stay mediocre forever. Where Pop teaches professionalism, others just throw players to the wolves. But ... You will never understand or admit this because of your "hate on Pop" schtick because you think youre an actual NBA coach or executive who thinks he knows what goes on behind the scenes ...lmao

Bro... U don't have to be hard on a player for him to be good... No one was hard on D'aron fox, and he became pretty good... No one was hard on Jokic, and he became elite... Stop this nonsense about ppl needing to be hard on young players... Admit pop's uses his shtick on every young player, and every player isn't the same... Some players need freedom

[Dejounte]

Bro... U don't have to be hard on a player for him to be good... No one was hard on D'aron fox, and he became pretty good... No one was hard on Jokic, and he became elite... Stop this nonsense about ppl needing to be hard on young players... Admit pop's uses his shtick on every young player, and every player isn't the same... Some players need freedom

Ok mr. Nba executive mouthing off as if you know what goes on behind the scenes. You sound like youre in these player's heads. Youre a mind reader now?

[tim_duncan_fan]

As this guy begins to ascend, I just want to ask him:

Please don't fuck a teammate's wife.

Lmao

[SpurPadre]

As this guy begins to ascend, I just want to ask him:

Please don't fuck a teammate's wife.

Lmao

But that didn't hurt TP's career. It just cost him Eva, tbh.

[Genovaswitness]

But that didn't hurt TP's career. It just cost him Eva, tbh.

eva the old hag with the rotten eggs tbh

tony gets him a nice fertile 22 year old and has multiple children with her almost immediately :lmao

[SpurPadre]

eva the old hag with the rotten eggs tbh

tony gets him a nice fertile 22 year old and has multiple children with her almost immediately :lmao

True but I bet you'd lick the crust off Eva's toes, though, tbh.

[Collins21]

If we had Murray last year do we win that Denver series?

[Rosewood]

If we had Murray last year do we win that Denver series? Yes.

Though, we would've swept them if we didn't have Mills.

[Genovaswitness]

True but I bet you'd lick the crust off Eva's toes, though, tbh.

Not even a neckbeard opinion she’s an above average SA Latina girl

[Dejounte]

19 pts and 10 reb with 4 assists in 23 minutes. Thats unreal

[KobesAchilles]

The guy is officially my favorite Spur

[SpurPadre]

The guy is officially my favorite Spur

He gets bonus points for saying this too:

"No, no, no, no, no, I trust them," Murray said when asked if he would request more time. "They've been doing this a long time. So, I trust them and they know what they're doing."

[RC_Drunkford]

This kid is already taking over games. That ability alone is big time. Once he gets benched the team struggles a lot. I just want to see that midrange jumper to start falling. Most fun to watch Spur for sure. 2nd best player on the team as of now

[acoelho1]

He wasn't disciplined on defense and his shot was off but still had a major impact on both sides. He's only going to get better as the year goes and he might be the fastest with the ball going end to end with the exception of possibly Westbrook.

[exstatic]

He wasn't disciplined on defense and his shot was off but still had a major impact on both sides. He's only going to get better as the year goes and he might be the fastest with the ball going end to end with the exception of possibly Westbrook.

Westbrook of 3 years ago, maybe. Time takes its toll.

DJs per 36 numbers are unreal. 28.3p 13.7r 7.7a 3.8st

[SuperCam]

Oh brother this dude STINKS. Apologize for what, how much of a scrub he looks like? :lol

[UZER]

Oh brother this dude STINKS. Apologize for what, how much of a scrub he looks like? :lol

The irony of your screen name. :lol

[SAGirl]

He has disappointed. He looked great in preseason and the first few games.

[slick'81]

Hopefully murray continues to improve that stroke or else hes just an over paid bruce bowen

[TimDunkem]

Now is it safe to say that we should've taken Brogdon?

[SAGirl]

Now is it safe to say that we should've taken Brogdon?
Although Murray was my pick, and have rooted for him to improve, spurs massive lost out on Brogdon. Moreover he was ready to play when Kawhi was still here. Unfortunately he would have gotten GLeague and second season with mixed roles/minutes and irregular lineups. We wouldn’t have known his true impact at the time. Probably better for Brogdon to have been drafted elsewhere

[TimDunkem]

I don't disagree...You know things are bad when it's generally agreed upon that being drafted by the Spurs is a bad thing for young talent.