**OFFICIAL Week 8 Game Thread, Sponsored By Precious : Based on the Novel Push

[SpursforSix]

It's Thursday niggas. Where's the info?

[Darth_Pelican]

Bend over, I'll give you the info

[Darth_Pelican]

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[Darth_Pelican]

NATIONAL BROADCASTS
Thursday Night: Washington @ Minnesota (FOX/NFLN)
Sunday Night: Green Bay @ Kansas City (NBC)
Monday Night: Miami @ Pittsburgh (ESPN)


Byes: Baltimore, Dallas


CBS EARLY
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█ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Denver @ Indianapolis
Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts

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Cincinnati vs LA Rams (in London)
Greg Gumbel, Trent Green

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Arizona @ New Orleans
Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon

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NY Jets @ Jacksonville
Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta



CBS LATE
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█ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Cleveland @ New England
Jim Nantz, Tony Romo

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Oakland @ Houston
Andrew Catalon, James Lofton



FOX SINGLE
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█ Anchorage
█ Fairbanks
█ Honolulu

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Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Chris Myers, Daryl Johnston

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LA Chargers @ Chicago
Thom Brennaman, Chris Spielman

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NY Giants @ Detroit
Kenny Albert, Charles Davis

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Seattle @ Atlanta
Sam Rosen, Ronde Barber

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Tampa Bay @ Tennessee
Kevin Kugler, Matt Millen

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Carolina @ San Francisco (LATE)
Dick Stockton, Mark Schlereth

[Millennial_Messiah]

I guess this week is just a dud to everyone. TNF is a surefire blowout, CBS not FOX has the doubleheader, relatively boring slate of games. No Cowboys game. The "featured" game on Sunday is Cleveland @ Patriots... 31-10 snooze fest. Sunday Night game ruined by no Mahomes. CAR @ SF could be interesting.

[phxspurfan]

inb4 Redskins get bukkaked (again)

[spurraider21]

haskins isnt ready tbh... he needs a redshirt year

[spurraider21]

game is way too fast for him

[Millennial_Messiah]

haskins isnt ready tbh... he needs a redshirt year

He just isn't good, that's the bitter truth.

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers 6-0
Seahawks 5-2
Rams 4-3

Packers 6-1
Vikings 6-2

Saints 6-1
Panthers 4-2

+ NFC East Winner



.... Two of the above 7 won't make the playoffs, while the NFC East winner and suckier AFC trash will.

[Spurtacular]

Good game, Vikes!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwCS4Lu4qAM

[Millennial_Messiah]

Good game, Vikes!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwCS4Lu4qAM
Vikings should have had 30+ points if not for settling for a bunch of FGs in the red zone, the early Diggs fumble and the oddly failed QB sneak on 4th down.

[Spurtacular]

Vikings should have had 30+ points if not for settling for a bunch of FGs in the red zone, the early Diggs fumble and the oddly failed QB sneak on 4th down.

That's Zimmerman for you.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

THANK YOU BASED GOD for nfl red zone streams

[benefactor]

If Houston can work the intermediate routes like they did against KC they should win. Fells and Duke Johnson should eat big this game matched up with Oakland's linebackers who are great against the run but can't cover for shit. Oakland doesn't rush the passer either, so Watson should have plenty of time behind that new and improved line. If Houston tries to force the run game they are asking for a loss...but it seems like BOB has finally left those days behind(hopefully).

Oakland can run the ball well with Jacobs but McKinney and Cunningham are two of the best run stopping linebackers in the league. They won't shut them down completely but Houston knows how to defend that zone run scheme and they will be ready for it. I'll take Houston by 10.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Team Leader Matt Schaub going 2012 HAM on the Seahawks

[Millennial_Messiah]

Major home cooking for the Bills in the ref department today.

I guess the league doesn't think they're a threat to the Patriots, tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Brees back in the game, Saints offense struggling. Should have stuck with Mr. Undefeated Bridgewater?

[spurraider21]

If Houston can work the intermediate routes like they did against KC they should win. Fells and Duke Johnson should eat big this game matched up with Oakland's linebackers who are great against the run but can't cover for shit. Oakland doesn't rush the passer either, so Watson should have plenty of time behind that new and improved line. If Houston tries to force the run game they are asking for a loss...but it seems like BOB has finally left those days behind(hopefully).

Oakland can run the ball well with Jacobs but McKinney and Cunningham are two of the best run stopping linebackers in the league. They won't shut them down completely but Houston knows how to defend that zone run scheme and they will be ready for it. I'll take Houston by 10.
gonna be the first game all season the raiders have their full starting OL. should be a good game, but watson is gonna EAT. raiders pass rush has been shit

[Millennial_Messiah]

That gimmicky blitz-happy Buffalo defensive scheme is going to get exposed sooner than later.

[Millennial_Messiah]

gonna be the first game all season the raiders have their full starting OL. should be a good game, but watson is gonna EAT. raiders pass rush has been shit
need some more Mayowa Magic, tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Tosh Allen

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Billygoats getting exposed for the fraudulent fucks they always are.

[Millennial_Messiah]

seahawks are underrated

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pop Quiz: For how many reasons do which the Darth_Pelican (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=22958) Saints fans hate the Rams?

1) 2018-19 NFCCG 'nuff said
2) 2011... the Rams had 2 total wins all season, but one of them was against the 13-3 Saints, and that game made the difference between HFA and having to go to SF for the divisional round. Made all the difference in the end. Drew Brees' career year, wasted.
3) their 1 loss of 2019 (so far)

any more?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Must win game for the Bears. They can't afford to lose to another AFC fodder and go 3-4 in the stacked NFC; it's a death knell.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Billygoats claim to fame is their run defense, huh? :lol

[spurraider21]

mm spamming like this is making me consider putting him back on ignore

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jim Schwartz needs to be fired. Only a fucking moron would all-out blitz in that situation when the obvious objective is to force the Bills to kick into the wind. It's 3rd & 13, why not just play sticks, make an easy tackle and force the field goal? Stupid ass.

[Millennial_Messiah]

mm spamming like this is making me consider putting him back on ignore

The issue isn't that I'm spamming. I'm not spamming. The problem is that nobody else is posting on here today. Why is it so dead on here today? Where is Darth Pelican? Crickets.....

[benefactor]

The issue isn't that I'm spamming. I'm not spamming. The problem is that nobody else is posting on here today. Why is it so dead on here today? Where is Darth Pelican? Crickets.....
You answered your own question in post 5 tbh. I'll be around for the late games. I get off work in 30ish min

[Spurtacular]

Chargers with a crap run on 3rd and 2 from the goal line.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I benched Mike Evans for TY Hilton this week. Gawd what an awful decision.

[Spurtacular]

Allen just dropped the TD pass for the Chargers to go ahead. And then they miss the FG.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Road teams really dominating sports lately.

[Spurtacular]

Another turnover by the Bears on their side of the field. Trubisky fumble.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Carson Wentz: Meh Lamar Jackson now

[Spurtacular]

Bears should go for it on 4th and 16 TBH.

[Spurtacular]

Chargers a foot and a half short of the first down. Bears gonna get the ball, the FG, and the win now. TBH.

[Spurtacular]

The Chargers needed to go for the clinching first down instead of relying on their defense, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Bears and their missed game-winning FGs

[Millennial_Messiah]

Crap ending to that game. Chargers deserved to lose. Stupid Green Gay wins again.

[spurraider21]

would have been nice to see the chargers lose as usual, but bears losing nets us a better draft pick so i dont mind seeing them fuck up either :lol... with an ex raiders kicker

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bears unofficially, but practically, eliminated from playoff contention.

[Spurtacular]

Crap ending to that game. Chargers deserved to lose. Stupid Green Gay wins again.

Packers are competing for the division with the Vikings, not the Bears. TBH

[Pelicans78]

Brees back in the game, Saints offense struggling. Should have stuck with Mr. Undefeated Bridgewater?

Good call!!!!

[Millennial_Messiah]

NOW we find out if Brissett is a real QB or not. Anyone can check down and hand the ball off.

A real NFL QB wins ball games in this situation.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Good call!!!!

Slow first half, but good to see they're finally back in gear. If they make the super bowl I hope they kick the Cheatriots' ass.


That Saints' D is great this year

[Pelicans78]

Pop Quiz: For how many reasons do which the Darth_Pelican (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=22958) Saints fans hate the Rams?

1) 2018-19 NFCCG 'nuff said
2) 2011... the Rams had 2 total wins all season, but one of them was against the 13-3 Saints, and that game made the difference between HFA and having to go to SF for the divisional round. Made all the difference in the end. Drew Brees' career year, wasted.
3) their 1 loss of 2019 (so far)

any more?

Plenty of more reasons going back to when the Saints were in the NFC West. Division rivals for 35 season until 2002.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

The Colts player was going out of bounds and the stupid Broncos defender horse collar tackles him for no reason.

[Spurtacular]

That reversed TD call helped the Rams cover the spread. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Colts player was going out of bounds and the stupid Broncos defender horse collar tackles him for no reason.

yep. This one is less on Brissett as the Broncos with some dumb plays like not completing the wide open sack and then that.

[Spurtacular]

Vinatieri still money.

:lol Patriots

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bears get a 40 yard kick to win, miss.

Colts get a 52 yard kick to win, make.

Yuck.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Vinatieri still money.

:lol Patriots
Mike Nugent is going to haunt the Patriots when it matters most this season (i.e. when they're not playing a cupcake excuse for an opponent).

[Pelicans78]

Wow Flacco was drilled!!

[Spurtacular]

The difference between 2-6 and out of the chase and 3-5 and still in the chase is last-minute FG tries by their opponents for the Chargers and Broncos.

[jeebus]

Joseph Bag of Donuts got assfucked there at the end. Fitting end.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Prediction:

Browns 10

Patriots 31

[Millennial_Messiah]

The difference between 2-6 and out of the chase and 3-5 and still in the chase is last-minute FG tries by their opponents for the Chargers and Broncos.

It's amazing how 3-5 is still in the chase in the AFC but 3-4 is out of the chase in the NFC.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Also a laaaaaaaaaame-o ending to Bucs/Titans. Another case of the better team not winning

[Spurtacular]

NFLBite.com pissing me off today. Games not getting listed.

[Spurtacular]

California is the shittiest place to live for watching network football. Most will now watch a great game except you Cali assholes who get Raiders, Niners, Chargers and Rams.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jameis Loseston with another game losing pick

[MultiTroll]

That reversed TD call helped the Rams cover the spread. :lol
Big time! I've got Saints Rams Pattycakes Steelers.

Hey are we gonna get another picks thread going or since we have not become multi millionaires maybe not?

[Millennial_Messiah]

NFLBite.com pissing me off today. Games not getting listed.

they're all listed and functional, you just have to scroll beyond the NBA games

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fun fact: This (October 27th) is the only day all year that all 3 major American sports will have a meaningful game on the same day in the calendar year of 2019.

[leemajors]

NFLBite.com pissing me off today. Games not getting listed.

sportsurge

[Spurtacular]

sportsurge

:tu

[MultiTroll]

Bears QB needs to be demoted ASAP.
Flacco should have been demoted weeks ago.

[spurraider21]

Fun fact: This (October 27th) is the only day all year that all 3 major American sports will have a meaningful game on the same day in the calendar year of 2019.
no such thing as a meaningful beisbol game

[Will Hunting]

David Andrews’ injury is going to be the death of New England this year, losing him single handedly turned the offensive line into shit. If he were healthy it’d be another cakewalk to a super bowl imo.

[Will Hunting]

Bears QB needs to be demoted ASAP.
Flacco should have been demoted weeks ago.
I think you mean years ago :lol

[Will Hunting]

:lmao another Patriots touchdown on defense/special teams

[MultiTroll]

I think you mean years ago :lol
He started the year out o-k. It was more corrupt NFL ref etc that cost them some games. But even then they would have just barely won.
He's gonzo now. That honestly looked like a throw the spread ending. I mean WTF do you have to lose on the final play of the game to get into FG range. Guarding his stats? LOL.

[spurraider21]

hudson going down is a colossal loss. he's the best player on the team tbh

[SuperCam]

Twinky allen getting exposed :lmao

[spurraider21]

:lol getting torched by renfrow

[Will Hunting]

:lmao three consecutive turnovers for Cleveland
:lmao Baker Football

[spurraider21]

gonna be the first game all season the raiders have their full starting OL
naturally a lineman goes down in the first quarter :lol

[Pelicans78]

Twinky allen getting exposed :lmao

Not as bad as that defense.

But hopefully Cam comes back soon. The division will be a wrap.

[SuperCam]

Not as bad as that defense.

But hopefully Cam comes back soon. The division will be a wrap.


Nawlins can't beat this team on the road in the playoffs so it doesnt matter :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not sure if anyone challenges the 49ers this year. That rock-solid combination of an elite, stacked D-Line, Richard Sherminator, tremendous QB and running game, a top 3 tight end in Kittle, and now Emmanuel Sanders on top of all that? This is just ridiculous

[Will Hunting]

Can’t fucking believe New England traded a 2nd for Sanu when they could have had Sanders for a 3rd and 4th. Sanders is better at everything other than gadget plays.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nawlins can't beat this team on the road in the playoffs so it doesnt matter :lol

Good thing for the Saints, pertaining to that, is the 49ers-Saints H2H game this year is in Nawlins, so Nawlins should get the tiebreaker.

Nick Bosa is the best defensive player in the NFL, &

Credit to Millennial_Messiah for giving the 49ers a 12-4 record back in the summertime before the season started, when everyone else was giving them 8 or less wins.

[spurraider21]

Can’t fucking believe New England traded a 2nd for Sanu when they could have had Sanders for a 3rd and 4th. Sanders is better at everything other than gadget plays.
i think they were looking for a particular archetype though... sanu is bigger in the gordon/demaryius mold.

for all the "flash gordon" stuff, he hasn't really shown that speed at all since his comeback last year. he's a lot more like alshon jeffery than prime flash which was a version of moss

[Millennial_Messiah]

hudson going down is a colossal loss. he's the best player on the team tbh

Best pure power run-blocking center in the NFL. Very bad for Jacobs & the run game.

[SuperCam]

Good thing for the Saints, pertaining to that, is the 49ers-Saints H2H game this year is in Nawlins, so Nawlins should get the tiebreaker.

Nick Bosa is the best defensive player in the NFL, &

Credit to Millennial_Messiah for giving the 49ers a 12-4 record back in the summertime before the season started, when everyone else was giving them 8 or less wins.

This niner team finishes with 2 losses at most, NO will have at least 3. Saints fans who were smart should have been cheering for us..

[SuperCam]

Good thing for the Saints, pertaining to that, is the 49ers-Saints H2H game this year is in Nawlins, so Nawlins should get the tiebreaker.

Nick Bosa is the best defensive player in the NFL, &

Credit to Millennial_Messiah for giving the 49ers a 12-4 record back in the summertime before the season started, when everyone else was giving them 8 or less wins.

This niner team finishes with 2 losses at most, NO will have at least 3. Saints fans who were smart should have been cheering for us..

[spurraider21]

Best pure power run-blocking center in the NFL. Very bad for Jacobs & the run game.
his run blocking is good but he's also given up like 1 sack in the last 2-3 years or some absurd stat like that. gruden has cleaned house with 90% of the roster since getting here, but he went ahead and gave hudson a big extension

[i'm_still_beta]

Karras can't snap the ball properly

[spurraider21]

:lmao teams that run the ball on first and 20... might as well punt

you should be able to get an ~8 yard or so completion with your eyes closed on first and 20

[Millennial_Messiah]

This niner team finishes with 2 losses at most, NO will have at least 3. Saints fans who were smart should have been cheering for us..

I think they lose to the Seahawks, and they also play At Baltimore and of course At Saints.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao teams that run the ball on first and 20... might as well punt

you should be able to get an ~8 yard or so completion with your eyes closed on first and 20

yeah something like curl comebacks concept should be able to get half of it back nearly flawlessly. I always smh at that crap as well. Same with running on 2nd & long after a sack on 1st.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Karras can't snap the ball properly

between that & Nugent being the kicker, the Pats have problems that will haunt them when they finally stop playing bottom feeder NFL teams.

also, they can't keep getting flukey lucky fumble 6's. they have to have more fumble 6's this year alone than most teams average in 5-10 years.

[Millennial_Messiah]

i think they were looking for a particular archetype though... sanu is bigger in the gordon/demaryius mold.

for all the "flash gordon" stuff, he hasn't really shown that speed at all since his comeback last year. he's a lot more like alshon jeffery than prime flash which was a version of moss

Then again Sanu has always been a "big slot" even dating back to his Bungles days when he played inside of Marvin Jones Jr. & AJ Green. He's not fast even though he's more of a jump ball guy than a pure slot that can win with quickness. He's just a possession receiver, like a really really low rent nerfed version of Michael Thomas. Or Jordan Matthews back in his Eagles days.

Crazy that Brandon Weeden & Jason Campbell made Josh Gordon into an all-pro but Pretty Boy Brady couldn't even make him an NFL caliber receiver.

[spurraider21]

Then again Sanu has always been a "big slot" even dating back to his Bungles days when he played inside of Marvin Jones Jr. & AJ Green. He's not fast even though he's more of a jump ball guy than a pure slot that can win with quickness. He's just a possession receiver, like a really really low rent nerfed version of Michael Thomas. Or Jordan Matthews back in his Eagles days.

Crazy that Brandon Weeden & Jason Campbell made Josh Gordon into an all-pro but Pretty Boy Brady couldn't even make him an NFL caliber receiver.
expecting gordon to come back in 2018 and play like it was 2013 ignoring the fact that there were 5 years in between was always unrealistic

he's still good enough to be productive, but he's not that guy anymore

[benefactor]

Shitty play calling BOB is back. Fml

[spurraider21]

Shitty play calling BOB is back. Fml
u guys get the ball to start the 2nd half... and carr usually goes on a roll and then makes one big mistake to undo it all, so i'm just crossing my fingers hoping he can avoid that today. he's picked it up since missing those early throws high

raiders dinking and dunking on that drive made zero sense. if you're not going to be aggressive, you should at least kill the clock. now texans get another chance with 2 TOs

[Pelicans78]

This niner team finishes with 2 losses at most, NO will have at least 3. Saints fans who were smart should have been cheering for us..

Not many teams left on the schedule can hang with the Saints.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

The Browns may not look good now, but their schedule gets softer after this game. They get to play the Dolphins, they have the Bengals twice, they have the Steelers twice, they have the Broncos, Cardinals, the Bills, and the Ravens who they already beat. It's possible they could go on a run in the second half of the season. We'll see.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Packers @ Chiefs with a noname QB is a colossal mismatch... but don't forget the "1" in the Packers' 15-1 season in 2011.

[Millennial_Messiah]

expecting gordon to come back in 2018 and play like it was 2013 ignoring the fact that there were 5 years in between was always unrealistic

he's still good enough to be productive, but he's not that guy anymore

I do agree.

I just think all these blowouts will hurt the Patriots in the long run down the stretch as their schedule gets tougher, this lack of adversity plus fundamental flaws on their team will haunt them.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not many teams left on the schedule can hang with the Saints.

perhaps they lose to Carolina twice and at home against the 49ers. Other than that the schedule is cake. 2 games against shitlanta, lol... and 2 AFC trash.

[spurraider21]

jj watt out for game, rodney hudson out for game. brutal for both teams... obviously watt is a bigger impact player

[Millennial_Messiah]

his run blocking is good but he's also given up like 1 sack in the last 2-3 years or some absurd stat like that. gruden has cleaned house with 90% of the roster since getting here, but he went ahead and gave hudson a big extension

centers rarely get credited for giving up sacks. rarely does the nose tackle win a 1 on 1 bull rush against a center for a sack, which is pretty much their only way of getting pressure from that position. generally that is a run position.

for example, the Cowboys' Joe Looney got credited for giving up 0 sacks last year, and he was the backup to Travis Frederick who was out last year with the nerve damage.

when it's an A-gap blitz up the middle, that doesn't count against the center for example

[Pelicans78]

perhaps they lose to Carolina twice and at home against the 49ers. Other than that the schedule is cake. 2 games against shitlanta, lol... and 2 AFC trash.

Panthers wont beat us twice. They usually get a free win at the end of the season when the Saints are resting their starters.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Browns may not look good now, but their schedule gets softer after this game. They get to play the Dolphins, they have the Bengals twice, they have the Steelers twice, they have the Broncos, Cardinals, the Bills, and the Ravens who they already beat. It's possible they could go on a run in the second half of the season. We'll see.

I thought the same thing about the Browns. 2-5 looks bad but that schedule has been brutal.

If they win in Denver next week they're on the right track. I still think they go 8-8 at least.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Panthers wont beat us twice. They usually get a free win at the end of the season when the Saints are resting their starters.

then again it could be a 2013 like scenario when the Panthers come back out of nowhere to actually win the division with the week 17 home game vs Saints

[Millennial_Messiah]

lol throwing it at the Sherminator. Get what you get

[SuperCam]

Back to the UDFA pile for you Twinkie :lmao

[spurraider21]

Wonder how good this offense would have looked with Antonio Brown...

[chunticakes]

Back to the UDFA pile for you Twinkie :lmao

Bruh why are you hating on the QB that won you the last four and turned the season around? Him and Twinkie McCaffrey are cleaning up the mess Newton left behind.

[Will Hunting]

Wonder how good this offense would have looked with Antonio Brown...
I think he’s available in the event he’d be a difference maker :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Back to the UDFA pile for you Twinkie :lmao
You'd be losing even worse with Scam.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nick GOATsa... move over Miller, Mack, Donald, we have a new best defensive player in football.

[Robz4000]

:lol this defense is ridiculous

[Pelicans78]

Nick GOATsa... move over Miller, Mack, Donald, we have a new best defensive player in football.

Until he fails a drug test.

[spurraider21]

I think he’s available in the event he’d be a difference maker :lol
He’s availability has nothing to do with his on field performance

[Millennial_Messiah]

Until he fails a drug test.

For what? PEDs? He doesn't smoke weed or do drugs. He's a christian conservative republican tbh.

[Will Hunting]

He’s availability has nothing to do with his on field performance
I was joking about that. Point being I don’t think there’s anything Oakland really could have done, I think the guy has a mental issue that boiled over and made it so no matter what he wasn’t playing this year.

[Millennial_Messiah]

B.O.B. kicking the XP in that situation :lol

[Will Hunting]

This Browns team should be good. Their o-line has blocked well today, Chubb is a top 10 RB, and their defensive line is elite. Hey fucked up by promoting Kitchens instead of Gregg Williams because they lack all of the intangibles that are usually driven by good coaching.

[benefactor]

Dammit...Cole probably scores if he hauls that in

[AlexJones]

The Pats have to be cheating somehow, DGAF. I have a $7000 bet on Cleveland +13, line drops all the way down to +10.5 by tipoff and I'm about to lose again. Come the fuck on lmfao. No team can win 60% ATS for 2 decades with the betting market already over-adjusting in your favor.

[spurraider21]

Food stamp caliber roughing call

[Will Hunting]

The Pats have to be cheating somehow, DGAF. I have a $7000 bet on Cleveland +13, line drops all the way down to +10.5 by tipoff and I'm about to lose again. Come the fuck on lmfao. No team can win 60% ATS for 2 decades with the betting market already over-adjusting in your favor.
Have they lost ATS even once this year?

[benefactor]

Food stamp caliber roughing call
:lol today's NFL

[spurraider21]

:lol today's NFL
Usually when a team has 85 penalty yards it’s cause there was a big 40 yard PI that skewed it

that call was dumb. Didn’t drive him to the ground, didn’t target his head, didn’t land with his body weight

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers have the best 4th & 1 defense I've ever, ever seen.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Have they lost ATS even once this year?

yes, the Jets home game week 3. And the buffalo game.

[Will Hunting]

:wow Watson

[spurraider21]

Watson is incredible. Raiders haven’t been able to deal with his mobility all game

[Millennial_Messiah]

Watson is such a gimmick

[AlexJones]

:lmao :lmao that's OPI? Go fuck yourself roger

[spurraider21]

Was that a dirty play? Hard to tell when it’s in slow mo like that

[spurraider21]

:lmao :lmao that's OPI? Go fuck yourself roger
1-800-GAMBLER

[Spurtacular]

Sigh. Was hoping Cleveland would at least make a game of it. Turned that sh** off.

[spurraider21]

The Pats have to be cheating somehow, DGAF. I have a $7000 bet on Cleveland +13, line drops all the way down to +10.5 by tipoff and I'm about to lose again. Come the fuck on lmfao. No team can win 60% ATS for 2 decades with the betting market already over-adjusting in your favor.
Lol degenerate gambler

[Pelicans78]

Seems like this version of the 49ers are better than the Harbaugh/Alice/Kaep versions.

[Will Hunting]

:lol unless you’re filthy fucking rich, $7000 on one game is fucking absurd.

[benefactor]

Was that a dirty play? Hard to tell when it’s in slow mo like that
I don't think so.

And :lol Andrew's salt. He's just mad because Daks hit his ceiling and we've yet to see just how good Watson can be

[Spurtacular]

Carr vs. Watson in a barn burner.

Battle of two top six QBs, amirite Blake?

[Millennial_Messiah]

NFL rules are tough. Yes that should have been DPI against Tyrell Williams but they never overturn those so Gruden had to hold onto the red flag

[spurraider21]

Tyrell Williams has made some big plays but man he’s had 2-3 really bad drops. 2 on that possession alone.

And that was a good holding call against incognito. He didn’t need to tbh, Jacobs had enough space as it was

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't think so.

And :lol Andrew's salt. He's just mad because Daks hit his ceiling and we've yet to see just how good Watson can be

:wow

Max Scherzer benched for Game 5 due to neck spasms. Some no-name bullpen guy named Joe Rose will start in his place. If the Astros don't win tonight it will be an all-time choke.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Sigh. Was hoping Cleveland would at least make a game of it. Turned that sh** off.

I don't watch New England home games, because the outcome is already scripted

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seems like this version of the 49ers are better than the Harbaugh/Alice/Kaep versions.
I agree. Similar composed teams with the stacked front 7 and running game, but much better coaching and time management etc

[Millennial_Messiah]

okay game is over. Victory formation Houston

[spurraider21]

gg bene

We didn’t have a prayer of getting a stop against Watson when chips were down. Williams big drops sealed our fate

[spurraider21]

:lol unless you’re filthy fucking rich, $7000 on one game is fucking absurd.
Lol dropping 7k on the Cleveland Browns in a random October game against the patriots

either he’s just a compulsive liar or he’s a degenerate gambler

[Pelicans78]

That was the best game of the day.

[benefactor]

:wow

Max Scherzer benched for Game 5 due to neck spasms. Some no-name bullpen guy named Joe Rose will start in his place. If the Astros don't win tonight it will be an all-time choke.
Have you seen me post in the MLB forum this year? :lol baseball

Oh look...another clutch throw by Watson to get a game winning first down:lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

That was the best game of the day.

yeah

very few OT games this year. I used to like more OT games, but now those are ruined by the all-too-real threat of a lame ass tie with the stupid 10 minute OTs and no further tie-breaking barriers, so it's good riddance there aren't very many OT games these days.

[Spurtacular]

Raiders players way too happy for a team that just lost a pivotal game. They'd have been 4-3, ahead of 4-4 Houston with that win.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Have you seen me post in the MLB forum this year? :lol baseball

Oh look...another clutch throw by Watson to get a game winning first down:lol
where was Watson when they needed him most against the Dolts last week? :lol

also, baseball >>>> povertyball and canuckpuckball tbh.

[spurraider21]

carr started slow and missed a handful of throws high on first couple of possessions, then he started heating up and got in a rhythm. plagued by drops when it counted most.

defense has been mediocre for a while now, so not being able to stop watson is to be expected. but when the offense has a chance to take the game, you cant have your 10 mil/year WR make 2 drops on the last drive. we have over 2/3 of our cap spent on the O, they need to come up.

[spurraider21]

AFC-S is gonna be fun to track

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lots of yellow cheese in abundance in the KC crowd tonight.

[Millennial_Messiah]

AFC-S is gonna be fun to track

oddly the best division in the AFC even though there is no title contender there.

[benefactor]

where was Watson when they needed him most against the Dolts last week? :lol

also, baseball >>>> povertyball and canuckpuckball tbh.
I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you about this, you autistic fuck. I'll just enjoy watching Jerry pay Dak 130 million to go with your already overpaid half shirt wearing, over-sized Ewok.

:lol Dallas
:lol we dem boyz
:lol Dak
:lol will probably reup Garrett
:lol championships on VHS

[spurraider21]

watt might be out for the season, torn pec suspected

[spurraider21]

watt might be out for the season, torn pec suspected
yep

1188609476376616962

[Millennial_Messiah]

bad challenge by the fat pig per par

[benefactor]

carr started slow and missed a handful of throws high on first couple of possessions, then he started heating up and got in a rhythm. plagued by drops when it counted most.

defense has been mediocre for a while now, so not being able to stop watson is to be expected. but when the offense has a chance to take the game, you cant have your 10 mil/year WR make 2 drops on the last drive. we have over 2/3 of our cap spent on the O, they need to come up.
Lots of mistakes by both teams. Houston murdered themselves with penalties yet again. O'Brien again tried to force the run early and wasted downs but didn't abandon it all the way when the pass started opening it up. That run on 3rd down late in the game was pure effort by Hyde. I saw him about to go down in the backfield and I was ready to lose my shit for him calling that play. It wound up ok, but it was a dumb call.

Houston winning close games is still strange to me, but Watson gets it done. He's held the ball too long and made a few mistakes here and there but his brilliance overshadows it. He never lacks confidence. He knows he can win...and that's something Houston has never had.

[benefactor]

watt might be out for the season, torn pec suspected
Hello darkness my old friend

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you about this, you autistic fuck. I'll just enjoy watching Jerry pay Dak 130 million to go with your already overpaid half shirt wearing, over-sized Ewok.

:lol Dallas
:lol we dem boyz
:lol Dak
:lol will probably reup Garrett
:lol championships on VHS

:lol Houston
:lol hot and humid all year round
:lol A/C running on Christmas
:lol MS-13
:lol hurricanes
:lol flooding
:lol flagship university infested by crime
:lol no championships ever
:lol lost your franchise to Nashville of all places
:lol expansion team
:lol David Carr a.k.a. Andrew Luck 1.0
:lol will probably reup Bill O'Bummer
:lol no offensive line or secondary

[Millennial_Messiah]

watt might be out for the season, torn pec suspected

Yikes. 3rd seasons ending injury in 4 years. That's probably it for his career, sadly tbh.

[Darth_Pelican]

The issue isn't that I'm spamming. I'm not spamming. The problem is that nobody else is posting on here today. Why is it so dead on here today? Where is Darth Pelican? Crickets.....

I went to the game and stayed out for a bit afterward.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I went to the game and stayed out for a bit afterward.

Props. I was inside because no Cowboys day game tbh.

[resistanze]

Rodgers is so dumb with holding the ball at times

[Millennial_Messiah]

Rodgers is so dumb with holding the ball at times
you take the occasional sack if it means no interceptions and an occasional rollout for a 40 yard bomb.

[spurraider21]

Lots of mistakes by both teams. Houston murdered themselves with penalties yet again.
houston had 7 penalties for 50 yards, raiders had 11 for 100 :lol...

and felt like most of houston's came on the OL. the raiders had a majority of theirs on the defense extending drives (we did have one OPI and the holding call late). houston crushed it in the 2nd half in time of possession, the raiders only had 3 possessions that half.


O'Brien again tried to force the run early and wasted downs but didn't abandon it all the way when the pass started opening it up. That run on 3rd down late in the game was pure effort by Hyde. I saw him about to go down in the backfield and I was ready to lose my shit for him calling that play. It wound up ok, but it was a dumb call.
yeah it felt like the raiders were bottling up the run really well all game... but they got worn down in the 2nd half pretty bad. by the end of the game nobody was able to bring down hyde on first contact. that's another result of sticking with the run all game, gradually wearing the other side down. raiders run game was effective all game too... but its clear that jacobs was ailing, as they kept subbing him out. ultimately texans were able to stay on the field so long that the raiders D got worn down.


Houston winning close games is still strange to me, but Watson gets it done. He's held the ball too long and made a few mistakes here and there but his brilliance overshadows it. He never lacks confidence. He knows he can win...and that's something Houston has never had.
yeah, thats a great feeling. its how the raiders felt in 2016. carr had 7 game winning drives that season alone. watson definitely has that magic about him. the only time the raiders were able to stop him is when he was confined to the pocket. any time they ran a read-option or he broke contain, it was lights out.

ugly loss for us, a ton of mistakes, but hats off to watson for making every play, man. gg

[Millennial_Messiah]

Aaron Jones is a legitimate deep wide receiver. 2011 Rodgers is back.

[spurraider21]

at least the mahomes injury has kept the AFC-W competitive :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

at least the mahomes injury has kept the AFC-W competitive :lol

& their next game is against the Vikings so that's likely a 4th loss. So that'll keep the Chargers within 1, the Raiders tied (albeit with a loss on tiebreaker) and Broncos within 1 oddly.

[Will Hunting]

Well this is going to be a shitty game.

[spurraider21]

& their next game is against the Vikings so that's likely a 4th loss. So that'll keep the Chargers within 1, the Raiders tied (albeit with a loss on tiebreaker) and Broncos within 1 oddly.
Raiders schedule lightens up quite a bit coming up too. Next week is the first game in Oakland since week 2

[Millennial_Messiah]

Moore with a Mahomesian throw right there for the Kelce TD.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Raiders schedule lightens up quite a bit coming up too. Next week is the first game in Oakland since week 2

yes. Lions, Chargers, Bugles and Jets are 4 very winnable games. Need to win all 4 to make the playoffs IMO because it's a lot harder after that.

[Spurtacular]

Chiefs fans performing the Indian chant. Are you ashamed, cuck Blake?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Chiefs fans performing the Indian chant. Are you ashamed, cuck Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460)?

that's been a thing since the beginning of time. Florida State Seminoles to the same chant but it's not as good because it's a bunch of drunk fratty college kids.

[spurraider21]

yes. Lions, Chargers, Bugles and Jets are 4 very winnable games. Need to win all 4 to make the playoffs IMO because it's a lot harder after that.
even later on... outside the @ chiefs game, they're all "winnable" like jax/titans... those wont be easy games, but its not like going at packers or at texans or anything like that

[Millennial_Messiah]

Zadarius Smith needs to be fined and suspended by the league, seriously. There has to be a limit on number of phantom times you can lie down and act hurt and stop the flow of the ball game like that. He did that 4 (!) times against the Cowboys and it artificially slowed down the Cowboys' rhythm at various junctures without Green Gay having to use a timeout. There should be serious penalties for this shit, like flopping in basketball.

[Millennial_Messiah]

even later on... outside the @ chiefs game, they're all "winnable" like jax/titans... those wont be easy games, but its not like going at packers or at texans or anything like that

for the record, I do have them winning the next 4 and the JAX/TEN games and finishing 9-7 and getting a wild card.

[Pelicans78]

Packers defense doesn’t look great currently.

[spurraider21]

Fuck the Chiefs... but i love the way matt Moore plays. Nothing pisses me off more than backup QBs who play like Uber conservative cucks. Moore, Fitzpatrick, McCown, Keenum... those are the dudes. Not Hundley, etc

[Spurtacular]

that's been a thing since the beginning of time. Florida State Seminoles to the same chant but it's not as good because it's a bunch of drunk fratty college kids.

Blake's shame goes way back.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Packers defense doesn’t look great currently.

It was always fraudulent and built on their easy opening schedule in terms of the offenses they faced.

If the Packers are going to win, they're going to win on the arm of Aaron Rodgers, that's it and that's all

[Spurtacular]

DB faking an injury just cos he missed the INT is annoying as hell. Charge timeouts for that sh**.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fuck the Chiefs... but i love the way matt Moore plays. Nothing pisses me off more than backup QBs who play like Uber conservative cucks. Moore, Fitzpatrick, McCown, Keenum... those are the dudes. Not Hundley, etc

McGloin
Cook
EJ Manuel

tbh

[Spurtacular]

Fuck the Chiefs... but i love the way matt Moore plays. Nothing pisses me off more than backup QBs who play like Uber conservative cucks. Moore, Fitzpatrick, McCown, Keenum... those are the dudes. Not Hundley, etc

Moore was really good at Boise State. It's a shame he wasn't drafted by a team that would've groomed him as a starter in the first place.

[spurraider21]

for the record, I do have them winning the next 4 and the JAX/TEN games and finishing 9-7 and getting a wild card.
I had them had at 7-8 wins before the season... but that was with the expectation they’d drop to one of bears/colts.

I dont think they’re good enough where i can say with confidence that they’ll win all the games they’re “supposed” to win. But between Det/Chargers x2/Den/Jets/Bengals/Jax/titans they should end up with at least 8 wins.

[spurraider21]

Moore was really good at Boise State. It's a shame he wasn't drafted by a team that would've groomed him as a starter in the first place.
He had some good moments with Carolina and Miami. Very josh mccown esque.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Moore was really good at Boise State. It's a shame he wasn't drafted by a team that would've groomed him as a starter in the first place.

Ummmmmm, lol no. That was Kellen Moore.

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

He had some good moments with Carolina and Miami. Very josh mccown esque.

I didn't follow that closely. It seems like he was an afterthought rather than someone who was being trained to be a starter.

[Spurtacular]

Ummmmmm, lol no. That was Kellen Moore.

:lmao

:lol Well, still a waste is what I'm saying. Dude could've been something.

[Pelicans78]

He had some good moments with Carolina and Miami. Very josh mccown esque.

I think he meant Kellen Moore.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Well, still a waste is what I'm saying. Dude could've been something.

:lmao No, you've got to own up to your mistake. That was a *fumble*, tbh.

Matt Moore was a transfer from UCLA to Oregon State. Not Oregon... Oregon State. :lol

[Pelicans78]

Vikings may be the best team in the North.

[spurraider21]

I think he meant Kellen Moore.
yeah i guess. either way, matt moore had good moments on carolina and miami

[Millennial_Messiah]

Vikings may be the best team in the North.

I hope so, but they just lay too many eggs on the road tbh. Dominant at home.

[Pelicans78]

I hope so, but they just lay too many eggs on the road tbh. Dominant at home.

They've won their last two on the road even though the Giants and Lions aren't good teams. They do a lot of things well and have a nice mixture of being physical and explosive. Tough matchup for anyone.

[Millennial_Messiah]

yeah i guess. either way, matt moore had good moments on carolina and miami

yeah, he bailed out tannehill in 2016, the one time this decade Miami was any good. But let's not lose focus of the fact that it's pretty hard to confuse right-handed 6'4" 230 manly looking Matt Moore with 5'11" 195 southpaw pizza-boy Kellen Moore. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

They've won their last two on the road even though the Giants and Lions aren't good teams. They do a lot of things well and have a nice mixture of being physical and explosive. Tough matchup for anyone.
I don't deny they are a very well balanced team on offense and defense. They have a top 5 running game, 2 top 10 receivers and a top 10 defense. Main issues are the down the heart and core of the team... QB, coaching and kicking... a bad trifecta to have to overcome, along with their OL who are great run blockers but shaky in pass protection.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I just think the Saints, Seahawks and 49ers are the best teams and Vikings/Packers... who knows? Do either the Eagles or Cowboys even deserve to get in?

[Mark Celibate]

:lol Well, still a waste is what I'm saying. Dude could've been something.

yeah I'm honestly surprised he wasn't given more of a chance in his career, intriguing player...I wonder if it's just the stigma of being "undrafted".

Even when he played in the preseason with Dallas, he looked really good and then later won NFC Rookie of the Month for December when he was with Carolina. Whenever guys have gone down, there have been streaks of games where he played at a pro bowl level. The biggest head scratcher of it all, was that he never really backed up great quarterbacks for the majority of his career. Scrubs like post-Texans David Carr, Jimmy Clausen, and Ryan Tannehill were always given the nod over him

[Millennial_Messiah]

I like the decision by LaFleur not to burn the timeout there and just take the delay of game. Don't waste 3rd quarter Timeouts in a close game.

[Millennial_Messiah]

& yet they burn the timeout anyway :lol

still, worth it I guess if you have Rodgers and it's a surefire TD

[Millennial_Messiah]

you burned a timeout for THAT? lmao.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Eagles couldn't get rid of McFumble fast enough.

[GAustex]

Rogers is so badass

[Spurtacular]

Avante

That Packers TD was shades of Dwight Clarke.

[Millennial_Messiah]

wow. Rodgers. Could Brady have done that? Nope

[Millennial_Messiah]

huge bailout by the refs. Packers get a taste of their own medicine from the detroit game.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

An absolutely dumb penalty by Tramon Williams.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who needs running backs when you have Elite Team Leader WR Aaron Jones?

[GAustex]

Rogers is so badass and smart

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Aaron Jones too fast for Kansas City.

Gotta get stops.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fat Oaf with the conservatard decision once again. Hope he never gets the ball back. Fatass playing to lose.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Kansas Shitty faggots can't even stop the run when they knew it was coming and the Packers on their own goal line

:lol Fat Oaf
:( Poor Mahomes, will never win a ring with Fat Oaf at the helm

[Millennial_Messiah]

so if I put on a 1 inch insole into my nikes and gained about 65 pounds, I could be Aaron Jones too!

[Spurtacular]

Queefs would be the Lions in the NFC North.

[Millennial_Messiah]

fuck John Cena, snowflake white liberal trash.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Queefs would be the Lions in the NFC North.

yep. Strong arm, trick throw specialist QB with a fat conservative *punt on 4th and inches* coach and a defense that can't stop the run. pretty similar teams tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Kansas Shitty Frauds

road sweet road, tbh. Go Vikings next week.

[GAustex]

Them Packers going to be a problem if they get home field. Need the 9ers to lose

[Spurtacular]

159 receiving yards for Aaron Jones?

Geez, Queefs. FFS.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Them Packers going to be a problem if they get home field. Need the 9ers to lose

Go Vikings tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

159 receiving yards for Aaron Jones?

Geez, Queefs. FFS.

Next Sunday becomes an odd but real must-win for the Vikings. Can't lose to a mahomes-less Chiefs after your biggest rival just beat them in the same stadium. Plus you lose a game in the common-opponents (2nd) tiebreaker if h2h is even.

[Pelicans78]

Them Packers going to be a problem if they get home field. Need the 9ers to lose

3rd best team in the NFC tbh

[spurraider21]

not to take away from watson's super human game winning TD play... but its pretty hard to balance the rules where you cant tackle a qb with your body weight when there are qbs like watson that can shed tackles

[TheCultOfPersonality]

8Z0mOpL9bMY

[Millennial_Messiah]

3rd best team in the NFC tbh

& I don't trust Rodgers to win a game in Seattle if it really matters, either. That place is his bane, kryptonite.

I don't think he can win in Minnesota, either. Vikings are the best overall team in that division.

[spurraider21]

one might be thinking the dolphins are ruining their tank job by winning, but by beating the steelers, their other first round pick (minkah trade) improves

[Millennial_Messiah]

one might be thinking the dolphins are ruining their tank job by winning, but by beating the steelers, their other first round pick (minkah trade) improves

and they hate the raiders for losing to the texans for the same reason.

then again, losing the #1 pick is far worse than the marginal benefit by, say, improving a #13 overall pick to #10. If you lose the ability to draft Tua, heads will roll. Also I don't see a big marketable guy like Tua wanting to play in a trash place like Cincinnati, he'd hold out.

[Spurtacular]

Haven't been watching, but nice to see Miami competing for a change.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Haven't been watching, but nice to see Miami competing for a change.

No tank for tua tonight. Or maybe pissburgh is just that bad.

[Will Hunting]

It really does amaze me that Miami is willing to go 0-16 just for the sake of being able to draft an undersized left handed pinneaple n!gger.

[spurraider21]

It really does amaze me that Miami is willing to go 0-16 just for the sake of being able to draft an undersized left handed pinneaple n!gger.
tua isn't the consensus top pick anymore, that LSU guy seems to be getting #1 talk

[spurraider21]

need a garbage time fitzmagic TD drive tbh...

after having a comfortable lead in fantasy, aaron jones going apeshit last night meant my opponent needed some steelers points to win. multiple turnover/sacks later and he has the fuckin lead. but a TD should get me back on top

[spurraider21]

need a garbage time fitzmagic TD drive tbh...

after having a comfortable lead in fantasy, aaron jones going apeshit last night meant my opponent needed some steelers points to win. multiple turnover/sacks later and he has the fuckin lead. but a TD should get me back on top
RIP

jones/steelers combined for 52 points lol

[spurraider21]

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[Mark Celibate]

1188997296333053958

:lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

1188997296333053958

Mina Kimes is fucking hot. I love a girl who knows her football, beyond "yeah, I know the Cowboys suck".

[Spurtacular]

Haven't been watching, but nice to see Miami competing for a change.

Glad I still didn't bother to tune in. What a fold.

[Darth_Pelican]

tua isn't the consensus top pick anymore, that LSU guy seems to be getting #1 talk

If Burrow takes down Bama in Tuscaloosa in 2 weeks and goes on to win the natty, then I could see him leapfrogging Tua. Very tall tasks obviously, but this is the best chance that LSU will have against Bama in a while.

[Mark Celibate]

Mina Kimes is fucking hot. I love a girl who knows her football, beyond "yeah, I know the Cowboys suck".

:lol “knows her football”. C’mon brah quit the white knighting, you and I both know these broads are on there only for one reason.

tbh that may have been the most blatant tanking call ever. I get blitzing in that situation but nobody in their right mind would ever send more than six. Any one of us could have thrown that touchdown pass

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol “knows her football”. C’mon brah quit the white knighting, you and I both know these broads are on there only for one reason.

tbh that may have been the most blatant tanking call ever. I get blitzing in that situation but nobody in their right mind would ever send more than six. Any one of us could have thrown that touchdown pass

The broads are there for two reasons. To give men with limp dicks an extra reason to watch, and affirmative action.

I don't think sending an 8-man rush vs. max protect is necessarily a tanking call, though. You have 3 on 3, straight man coverage, cover zero on the back end. That's a fair fight. But if you're going to do that you can't play two of the 3 DBs 20 yards off, you have to play all 3 of them in straight man coverage from the jump.

[Mark Celibate]

The broads are there for two reasons. To give men with limp dicks an extra reason to watch, and affirmative action.

I don't think sending an 8-man rush vs. max protect is necessarily a tanking call, though. You have 3 on 3, straight man coverage, cover zero on the back end. That's a fair fight. But if you're going to do that you can't play two of the 3 DBs 20 yards off, you have to play all 3 of them in straight man coverage from the jump.

yeah that's the problem, they just gave that receiver a free 20 yards atleast by playing so far off of him. nevermind lollygagging the rest of the play to give him the touchdown.

gotta look at the situation too. 3rd and 22 with 26 seconds left? Really? This isn't prime Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. What are they so scared of? This guy's basically a rookie, no way he's getting those 22 yards