View Full Version : Game Thread: Spurs @ Clippers - Oct. 31, 2019 @ 9:30 PM CT
cutewizard
10-31-2019, 11:39 PM
The aliens are here
Pop is such an arrogant asshole. What other coach would be arrogant enough to think he is going to prevent two of the better players on the team from ever sharing the court? So infuriating. It's like he does stupid shit no other coach would ever consider just so he can show his "genius".
itzsoweezee
10-31-2019, 11:40 PM
We need another star
Another? That implies the Spurs already have one
cutewizard
10-31-2019, 11:40 PM
Trade lma for kevin love
I'm fine with Pop trying to give the team one last run at this, but he better not use it as an excuse to manage loads tomorrow and give up a winnable game.
cutewizard
10-31-2019, 11:40 PM
Another? That implies the Spurs already have one
I was referring to Beckypie
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:41 PM
Leonard getting a breather... need to make a run
boutons_deux
10-31-2019, 11:41 PM
shitty game by spurs, TOs, RBs, FTs
Ron Swanson
10-31-2019, 11:41 PM
There's Marco's lone highlight of the season.
cutewizard
10-31-2019, 11:41 PM
Becky rules
Uriel
10-31-2019, 11:41 PM
Can't believe you fools wanted to trade Kawhi and mocked me when I was the lone voice in the wilderness pleading for the front office to keep him. :rolleyes
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:42 PM
doc blowing his load for this game...
WTF did Lonnie do wrong again? :lol
r0drig0lac
10-31-2019, 11:43 PM
Murray/White vs Clippers
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:43 PM
Box out DeMar you stupid fuck
cutewizard
10-31-2019, 11:43 PM
Becky on top of me
SpaceCoast Spursfan
10-31-2019, 11:43 PM
Pop is such an arrogant asshole. What other coach would be arrogant enough to think he is going to prevent two of the better players on the team from ever sharing the court?
There is simply no defending this... Though some on here have tried. Even given DJ's minutes restriction they could still play 4-5 minutes together. Obviously if it continues after restriction is lifted then any defense goes out the window
r0drig0lac
10-31-2019, 11:44 PM
damn so easy
Genovaswitness
10-31-2019, 11:44 PM
just goes to show you how kawhi was toying with the spurs the whole game. fucker is legitimately about to get 40, effortlessly.
b-but he had to prove himself before getting the supermax :cry
ZeusWillJudge
10-31-2019, 11:45 PM
Manuuuuuuuuuuuuuu rules
WTF are you smoking tonight? :lol
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:45 PM
Can't believe you fools wanted to trade Kawhi and mocked me when I was the lone voice in the wilderness pleading for the front office to keep him. :rolleyes
Lol lone voice. Pretty sure a good chunk of posters wanted to keep him.
DAF86
10-31-2019, 11:45 PM
I better see White play, at least, 9 of the remaining 12 minutes of this game. I'm tired of having one of the best players in the entire roster, at age 25, playing 40 year old Ginóbili minutes.
5 minutes to go and no signs of White. :lol
r0drig0lac
10-31-2019, 11:46 PM
There is simply no defending this... Though some on here have tried. Even given DJ's minutes restriction they could still play 4-5 minutes together. Obviously if it continues after restriction is lifted then any defense goes out the window
these "studs" don't understand anything about the game, they will just defend whatever PATFO does even if it makes no sense
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:46 PM
Christ get Marco off the floor
Manong Ginobili
10-31-2019, 11:46 PM
Play White and DJM together NOW
C-Dub
10-31-2019, 11:46 PM
Kawhi looked at LMA as a roll player and bounced. LW4 may request to leave the Spurs. DDR didn't ask to be with the Spurs so not his fault. He never said that he was as good as or better than Kawhi. Spurs should not extend him and let him walk in free agency.
Kawhi with the Harden flop. :lol
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:47 PM
DD Karl malone'd him
212094ever
10-31-2019, 11:47 PM
LOL Belinelli and Mills still out there
Genovaswitness
10-31-2019, 11:47 PM
what you people don't understand is that playing DJM and white together correctly acknowledges the sunk cost sack of shit that is derozan. this makes the FO look bad for getting "nothing" back for kawhi. they'll never play together. prepare for the FO to extend this fucktard
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:47 PM
can't think they would call flagrant for that
TheRemix
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Belinelli and mills. Fuck pop
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Lol Poop. Acting like teams don’t already know he has White and Murray on the roster, like they’re secret weapons the longer he avoids playing them
Ron Swanson
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Murray is about to get pulled.
SpaceCoast Spursfan
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Why is White not in for Beli
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Disappointed but not surprised at how shitty LaMarcus has been tonight. Dude Just completely disappears in the biggest games.
White carrying the Spurs and the 3rd Qtr and he has yet to see the floor in the 4th.
:lol Poop
itzsoweezee
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
I hate DeMar so much
apalisoc_9
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Pop not playing white and Murray together :lmao
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
Tonight is a clear example of Derozan being an empty stats player
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:48 PM
the refs are calling so much now...
Ron Swanson
10-31-2019, 11:49 PM
Why is White not in for Beli
Because he's in for Murray.
Ditty
10-31-2019, 11:49 PM
It’s sad that the old fuck bag Pop is holding this team back from actually having a punchers chance of possibly going deep in the playoffs.
Wombat-Belli alongside Murray instead of White :lmao
White carrying the Spurs and the 3rd Qtr and he has yet to see the floor in the 4th.
:lol Poop
And people wonder why Kawhi wanted out. :lol
White was balling this game.
boutons_deux
10-31-2019, 11:50 PM
KL with 15? in the 4th?
SpaceCoast Spursfan
10-31-2019, 11:50 PM
Pop saving White for tomorrow... I couldn't play for a coach who isn't serious about trying to win
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:50 PM
we have a lot to learn but we are competing...
Wombat-Belli closing :lmao :lmao
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:50 PM
Looking forward to the postgame interview when Pop is being a dick to reporters again while he’s out there being shitty at his job
Collins21
10-31-2019, 11:51 PM
If you say DeMar sucked this game you're just hating. This is on LaMarcus.
Spursfanfromafar
10-31-2019, 11:51 PM
Give credit to Murray, White and Derozan.. they are competing and keeping us with a chance.
SayNoToDrugsTBH
10-31-2019, 11:51 PM
POP YOU SENILE OLD FUCK!! PLAY WHITE AND MURRAY TOGETHER!!
Ron Swanson
10-31-2019, 11:52 PM
Great White Buffalo
Chomag
10-31-2019, 11:52 PM
Belli getting crunch time minutes lol
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:52 PM
4 pt game
Degoat
10-31-2019, 11:52 PM
Man the only thing that would make any sense is the spurs are trying to trade belly, beyond him playing over Lonnie, why is he playing over Carrol!?!
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:52 PM
Fucking Patty Mills in giving up layups instead of Dejounte
Spurs Homer
10-31-2019, 11:53 PM
Patty/beli
seriously?
Take Out DeRozen and the Spurs lose this by 20. Empty stat is so dumb. So when Tim was scoring 27 points in a loss it was an empty stat?
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:53 PM
beli big balls time?
Ditty
10-31-2019, 11:53 PM
Closing out the game with Mills and Marco holy shit lmao!
spurstalk123456
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
so hard to close this gap ffs
SpaceCoast Spursfan
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
If you say DeMar sucked this game you're just hating. This is on LaMarcus.
LMA clearly a total no show - DDR had a very tough 3rd quarter stretch but has been about as good as you expect outside a few too many turnovers
Wombat "the closer" Mills on Williams :lmao
Frenchfred
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
And people wonder why Kawhi wanted out. :lol
White was balling this game.
funny how some people still believe that Kawhi would have stayed if Pop was not the coach. He didn’t want to stay in a small market boring city like SA and wanted to move back to his home state.
Amuseddaysleeper
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
The fuck is this hero ball bullshit
boutons_deux
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
DDR hero fails
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
DeMar turning it over in crunch time. Like clockwork
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:54 PM
DD imploding
r0drig0lac
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
i hate demar
playblair
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
cant wait until ddr is gone
james evans
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
Beverly is dirty as fuck
Genovaswitness
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
on cue. demar losing composure after getting dickslapped by leonard again :lmao
I wanna know what nipsey hussle songs he's listening to tonight :lmao
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
pop playing mills beli too close... good freaking grief man...
Kurgan
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
For two players whose only job is to hit threes, Fatty and Belly don't make too many. The dude we traded away(Bertans) has already made twice as much threes as those two combined this season.
212094ever
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
And there's the result of keeping those two out there during crunch time
james evans
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
That’s a goddamn foul!!!
Chomag
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
Spurs had a chance to win the game actually so what did Pop do..put in his favorite duo patty and bellie
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
they put a valiant effort up.. but this team has a lot to learn.
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
If the Spurs lose to a Curry less warriors team tomorrow :lol
Slippy
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
Demar will help the spurs get into a winning position and then he'll choke it away. As per usual
itzsoweezee
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
I hate DeMar so much. Fuck this dude. Fucking ballhogging scrub
Wombat-Belli closing :lmao :lmao
:lol Poop
BatManu20
10-31-2019, 11:56 PM
Cut Marco tonight.
daslicer
10-31-2019, 11:57 PM
Beverly is dirty as fuck
He's a midget Draymond Green with the dirty shit he's allowed to get away with.
spurstalk123456
10-31-2019, 11:57 PM
white so dumb lol
Kurgan
10-31-2019, 11:57 PM
Derozan is a hideous bball player. Really is like watching a Kmart Kobe. Even the turnovers are very Kobe-like.
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:57 PM
good night.. man... appreciate the effort. just very frustrating.
james evans
10-31-2019, 11:58 PM
i hate demar
As much as I hate him, this is his best game of the season so far
its funny how refs call travel in every game except for rockets games.
raybies
10-31-2019, 11:58 PM
LMA was a ghost tonight
Chomag
10-31-2019, 11:58 PM
Can we just leave Belli in LA please?
Wombat shooting 37% coming into the game. Belli shooting 20%.
:pop: Get in there and close for us guys.
Manong Ginobili
10-31-2019, 11:59 PM
Loss is on Pop, both White and Murray were getting hot at certain points and they get taken out. Sub Mills for Murray and they might have won this game
timtonymanu
10-31-2019, 11:59 PM
Poop being poop. LMBeta version tonight. And Milli Benilli getting minutes, but the Spurs still kept it competitive against the best team in the league. I would be more upset if we lose to the Warriors tomorrow. The spurs still need to show they can take games on the road.
Joseph Kony
11-01-2019, 12:00 AM
cant blame this one on demar. this is all on LA being a no show and Pop once again with trash rotations. still, spurs were in it til the end against one of the better teams on the road, so at least theres that
itzsoweezee
11-01-2019, 12:00 AM
Derozan is a hideous bball player. Really is like watching a Kmart Kobe. Even the turnovers are very Kobe-like.
Lol kmart kobe is the perfect nickname
Kurgan
11-01-2019, 12:01 AM
Demar will help the spurs get into a winning position and then he'll choke it away. As per usual
It's his typical statpadding routine. Will score at anytime except the crucial moments. You'll never see him take over a game the way Manu or Duncan did. He'll score enough to keep his box score numbers respectable and then proceed to disappear in clutch time.
Darius Bieber
11-01-2019, 12:01 AM
Can’t even beat a team coming off of a back to back while the Spurs has 2 straight days of rest. This team is complete trash.
Absolute dead weight on the roster with Belinelli and Mills. Trade them both. Absolute waste of space on the team plane.
ZeusWillJudge
11-01-2019, 12:01 AM
TIMVP better not give Pop a B for this shitshow.
Degoat
11-01-2019, 12:01 AM
I know he hasn't proved anything but if I'm Lonnie walkers agent I'm doing everything I can to get him out of SA it's ridiculous that he gets no playing freedom
Very puzzled by tonight's rotations
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:02 AM
As much as I hate him, this is his best game of the season so far
its funny how refs call travel in every game except for rockets games.
I feel the same way. Normally he annoys me when he loses control emotionally but I wasn't angry at him today when he snapped on Beverly. That was some horse shit they allowed Beverly to get away with and it clearly ended any chance the Spurs had to win the game.
Valiant effort by White and DeRozan...everybody else pretty much shit the bed. LaMarcus needs to take a long look in the mirror and I am firmly in the the Belinelli Is Washed club now.
Considering that, the fact that this wasn't a blowout is still encouraging.
On to the next one. It's only October.
jbspurs
11-01-2019, 12:03 AM
Beli with the fadeaway 3 :pctoss
Kurgan
11-01-2019, 12:03 AM
cant blame this one on demar. this is all on LA being a no show and Pop once again with trash rotations. still, spurs were in it til the end against one of the better teams on the road, so at least theres that
He had 7 turnovers(especially a crucial one late in the game when the score was close). He deserves as much blame as anyone else in the starting lineup.
itzsoweezee
11-01-2019, 12:03 AM
cant blame this one on demar. this is all on LA being a no show and Pop once again with trash rotations. still, spurs were in it til the end against one of the better teams on the road, so at least theres that
He was horrible. He has an a decent first half and reverted to his usual trash self. The gulf between his actual abilities and his self perception is probably the widest in the NBA. He's a star in his own mind and in nobody else's
sasaint
11-01-2019, 12:03 AM
cant blame this one on demar. this is all on LA being a no show and Pop once again with trash rotations. still, spurs were in it til the end against one of the better teams on the road, so at least theres that
You just described the Spurs in a nutshell. LMA gonna shrink in big games and Pop gonna play Mills and Marco. Hard to watch this stuff game in and game out.
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:03 AM
LMA was a ghost tonight
A ghost has more fucking presence than he did, would've rather had Poeltl on the floor instead.
poopbox
11-01-2019, 12:04 AM
LMA was a ghost tonight
Of course he was, he always folds up against players who play physical...
Harrell isn't a good defender...he is actually a pretty bad defender...but he does play physical and is not going to fold up if you try to muscle him...
He will play well against the warriors tomorrow since they are playing an on the verge of being injured Draymond and some dude who looks like the pillsburry dough boy though...
james evans
11-01-2019, 12:04 AM
I feel the same way. Normally he annoys me when he loses control emotionally but I wasn't angry at him today when he snapped on Beverly. That was some horse shit they allowed Beverly to get away with and it clearly ended any chance the Spurs had to win the game.
It was a foul!! He fouled Derozan and then fell on him.
Degoat
11-01-2019, 12:05 AM
I wonder if LA is playing like shit because he's being forced to play center which reportedly he doesn't like
phxspurfan
11-01-2019, 12:05 AM
Didn't get to watch the game as NBALP fucked up but apparently Kawhi shot it 32 times. Dude was going full KoMe mode out there? And they only won by like 5? And they're supposedly far and away the best team in the league? Playing at home/us on our first roadie of the year? Kawhi on extended rest? Seems like a decent showing from our guys.
Good effort by our guys despite a tough shooting night and a no show by LMA. Need better D, KL got to whatever spot he wanted to and LAC got too many layups.
Tonight was a tough loss but take care of business tomorrow night and Spurs will be 4-1. I'm happy wit that.
Philthemage
11-01-2019, 12:06 AM
There are so many instances now that DeMar gets picked off when he does that spin move. Teams are anticipating that and picking him off.
Joseph Kony
11-01-2019, 12:06 AM
He was horrible. He has an a decent first half and reverted to his usual trash self. The gulf between his actual abilities and his self perception is probably the widest in the NBA. He's a star in his own mind and in nobody else's
if my count is right he was like 5/7 with 12 points and 2 turnovers in the 4th no? how is that trash?
Frenchfred
11-01-2019, 12:06 AM
Can’t even beat a team coming off of a back to back while the Spurs has 2 straight days of rest. This team is complete trash.
Absolute dead weight on the roster with Belinelli and Mills. Trade them both. Absolute waste of space on the team plane.
the Clippers are the favorite this year. Their best player was fully rested. And yes the Spurs roster is not that good. Superstars and even stars don’t want to play in SA, that’s the reality. Spurs fans have to realize that the team is as good as the players they get through the draft. I like the Spurs but if I was a young good player, I would not be attracted by San Antonio, it is kind of a shit city.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:07 AM
It was a foul!! He fouled Derozan and then fell on him.
Agreed. Can't stand Beverly. He gets away with fouling half of the time. He's midget Draymond Green for the Clippers without the passing abilities.
I know he hasn't proved anything but if I'm Lonnie walkers agent I'm doing everything I can to get him out of SA it's ridiculous that he gets no playing freedom
I think he'll get more action tomorrow night with Murray not playing
tim_duncan_fan
11-01-2019, 12:07 AM
LaMarcus is extremely lazy for a player that supposedly likes to score. Just barely moves at all out there and if his weak turn-around jumper isn't working he doesn't even try anything else.
Props to DeRozan for seemingly beginning to pick up on the idea that attacking the basketball is a good option.
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:08 AM
Can we end the Lyles and Beli rotation minutes already? Beli was a ghost on offense, despite being on the floor for his offense. Lyles looks scared to shoot, like he's afraid he's gonna get pulled. If he's starting so he can be a floor spacing big, then why doesn't he actually take them?
Carroll was always a better fit with the starters but hasn't played yet, for some insane reason.
ZeusWillJudge
11-01-2019, 12:08 AM
I wonder if LA is playing like shit because he's being forced to play center which reportedly he doesn't like
He was either sick or pouting. He's been playing too long to look that worthless. Maybe he's demanded a trade.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:08 AM
Tbh Spurs came out and competed hard this game. Better than I thought they would. We lost to a better team and if they had Paul George, this likely would have been a blowout. Nothing Wrong with losing to a better team that has a superstar/Top-2 player in the world, especially on the road.
With that said, Aldridge, Rudy Gay, and Bryn all had by far their worst games of the season thus far. If they would’ve played even an average game for them, Spurs likely steal this one. Oh well. Onward and upward. Warriors tomorrow night in San Fran.
TDomination
11-01-2019, 12:09 AM
Overall I’m happy
spurs10
11-01-2019, 12:09 AM
LMA came as Casper and won the costume contest.
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:09 AM
]Didn't get to watch the game as NBALP fucked up[/B] but apparently Kawhi shot it 32 times. Dude was going full KoMe mode out there? And they only won by like 5? And they're supposedly far and away the best team in the league? Playing at home/us on our first roadie of the year? Kawhi on extended rest? Seems like a decent showing from our guys.
You too? I'm in VA and it said that it was blacked out in my area, I don't live in Cali.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:10 AM
the Clippers are the favorite this year. Their best player was fully rested. And yes the Spurs roster is not that good. Superstars and even stars don’t want to play in SA, that’s the reality. Spurs fans have to realize that the team is as good as the players they get through the draft. I like the Spurs but if I was a young good player, I would not be attracted by San Antonio, it is kind of a shit city.
Agreed. Spurs just have to continue to develop their young guys White,Murray,etc and hope eventually they can become star players in the next few years. I mainly watched this game to see how White, Murray would perform. White looked great and Murray picked it up towards the end.
hombre
11-01-2019, 12:10 AM
Also, most their fans hate the team.
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:11 AM
I think he'll get more action tomorrow night with Murray not playing
Wouldn't be shocked if LWIV started against GSW. Pop likes to keep his rotations in tact, even if they are nonsensical.
timvp
Pop's default grade should be an F as long as he refuses to play White-Murray together. Overplaying Belli and Wombat, even though it's a stupid argument, you can atleast argue that they are "experienced" shooters. WTF is his excuse for acting like there are only 48 minutes available for White and Murray combined? Who in their right fucking mind would think that's smart? Who the fuck even thinks "let me purposely keep two of my better players from ever playing together"? Motherfucker keeps letting the fact that he's the GOAT get to his head.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:13 AM
Didn't get to watch the game as NBALP fucked up but apparently Kawhi shot it 32 times. Dude was going full KoMe mode out there? And they only won by like 5? And they're supposedly far and away the best team in the league? Playing at home/us on our first roadie of the year? Kawhi on extended rest? Seems like a decent showing from our guys.
They were missing PG who would be by far the best player on SA. So no, not that encouraging considering all the flaws of the team were exposed:
Poor shooting from deep, inability to really threaten good teams offensively, so many liabilities on defense and a coach that refused to play optimal lineups anyways.
The guys fought (not LMA) mostly, but they are so clearly overmatched when it comes to talent and if Pop isn’t going to give them the best shot, it’s a big time uphill battle.
Wasn’t an awful performance but illuminated what most knew: SA is several tiers below what would be considered a legit team.
mexicanjunior
11-01-2019, 12:13 AM
Same bullshit since 2017...stupid TO's, bricking FTs, dumb rotations and the highest paid players on the team disappearing. We also wasted the MLE on a guy getting as many minutes as I am...
ShutUp SayItAgain!
11-01-2019, 12:13 AM
Very puzzled by tonight's rotations
I'm not. Same ol overrated dumbass Pop. I expect it
John B
11-01-2019, 12:13 AM
Clippers is the better team, but imo after the minutes restriction on Murray, Spurs would be a different beast with both Murray and White able to close. I was expecting for Carroll to finally make an appearance. Who knows the story behind?
TDomination
11-01-2019, 12:14 AM
Tbh Spurs came out and competed well this game. Better than I thought they would. We lost to a better team and if they had Paul George, this likely would have been a blowout. Nothing Wrong with losing to a better team that has a superstar/Top-2 player in the world.
With that said, all Dridge, Rudy Gay, and Brynn Forbes all had by far the worst games of the season for them so far. If they Would’ve played even an average game for them, spurs would’ve had a very good chance to steal this one. Oh well. Onward and upward. Warriors tomorrow night in San Fran.
And if dejounte and white both play 30 mpg we may win
we’ll see how we fare later in the season
Dennis the Menace
11-01-2019, 12:15 AM
Marco and Patty gonna retire their jerseys in the rafters at AT&T when it’s all said and done. Lol
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:15 AM
Tbh Spurs came out and competed hard this game. Better than I thought they would. We lost to a better team and if they had Paul George, this likely would have been a blowout. Nothing Wrong with losing to a better team that has a superstar/Top-2 player in the world, especially on the road.
With that said, Aldridge, Rudy Gay, and Bryn all had by far their worst games of the season thus far. If they would’ve played even an average game for them, Spurs likely steal this one. Oh well. Onward and upward. Warriors tomorrow night in San Fran.
Forgot to add: Leave Marco in LA. Seriously.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:18 AM
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:19 AM
Lonnie clearly looks frustrated out there and on the bench. You can see it in his body language. He will either come out of this situation stronger or Pop is going to break him. There will be no middle ground.
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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To Pop's credit, Lonnie was reckless on offense and horrible on defense.
poopbox
11-01-2019, 12:19 AM
Like...is Demare hurt or something?
Like...is Demare hurt or something?
I think we'll see him tomorrow.
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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Fuck Pop, man.
Why doesn't he ever say shit about the traffic cones that are shooting 35% and 20% from the field?
Collins21
11-01-2019, 12:20 AM
They were missing PG who would be by far the best player on SA. So no, not that encouraging considering all the flaws of the team were exposed:
Poor shooting from deep, inability to really threaten good teams offensively, so many liabilities on defense and a coach that refused to play optimal lineups anyways.
The guys fought (not LMA) mostly, but they are so clearly overmatched when it comes to talent and if Pop isn’t going to give them the best shot, it’s a big time uphill battle.
Wasn’t an awful performance but illuminated what most knew: SA is several tiers below what would be considered a legit team.
Paul George by himself was getting the 7th seed in the East. What has he won to say he's better than the best players on this team? He's a better defender by far but other than that he chokes just like our stars.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:20 AM
Play Murray-White will be the shtick used in here all year win or lose granted I would like to see them play together.
Robz4000
11-01-2019, 12:21 AM
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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Pop might legit run Walker out of town tbh. It's getting to the point where someone needs to step in and take the reigns from Pop.
Kurgan
11-01-2019, 12:21 AM
Spurs are at the very bottom of the league in 3 pointers made per game and 3 point attempts per game. We're averaging even less three point attempts per game than last year(when we were already the worst in the league). For all those people that were hopeful that we would see more three point shooting from Derozan or LMA, don't bet on it.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:21 AM
To Pop's credit, Lonnie was reckless on offense and horrible on defense.
Marco and Lamarcus had far worse games and those guys are supposed to be our Veteran leaders. One of them is a Max player. Call those guys out, not a 20 year-old 2nd year Player. Lonnie’s not going to want to re-sign in San Antonio if his head coach is calling him “horrible.” There’s an art this coaching thing and Pop seems to be losing that.
ZeusWillJudge
11-01-2019, 12:22 AM
They were missing PG who would be by far the best player on SA. So no, not that encouraging considering all the flaws of the team were exposed:
Poor shooting from deep, inability to really threaten good teams offensively, so many liabilities on defense and a coach that refused to play optimal lineups anyways.
The guys fought (not LMA) mostly, but they are so clearly overmatched when it comes to talent and if Pop isn’t going to give them the best shot, it’s a big time uphill battle.
Wasn’t an awful performance but illuminated what most knew: SA is several tiers below what would be considered a legit team.
Pretty good summary. The Spurs don't compete if PG is healthy and playing. But they could have won this game tonight if Pop had taken the night off. I don't like to second guess a HOF coach, but I'm still scratching my head over some of his decisions tonight.
WTF do you think is going on with Aldridge? Even on a bad night he shouldn't look this bad. This is a guy who thinks he should be considered for the AS team? That was an embarrassing performance.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:23 AM
Paul George by himself was getting the 7th seed in the East. What has he won to say he's better than the best players on this team? He's a better defender by far but other than that he chokes just like our stars.
What has LMA won? DeRozan? PG is by far better than them and there is no logical argument otherwise. Even if you want to call PG soft or a choker or overrated, that’s totally fine. But LMA/DeRozan are that too plus less talented.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:24 AM
To Pop's credit, Lonnie was reckless on offense and horrible on defense.
:lmao In his 4 minutes? What about the people paid to carry the team: LMA, Mills, Beli? They were all worse than Lonnie or every bit as bad and calling out a guy who played 4 minutes for a loss is total bullshit.
poopbox
11-01-2019, 12:25 AM
I think we'll see him tomorrow.
Of course...because Dejounte won't play.
Like...did we sign this dude to a 3 year contract so that he can soak up someones minutes on the second night of a back to back?
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:27 AM
Pretty good summary. The Spurs don't compete if PG is healthy and playing. But they could have won this game tonight if Pop had taken the night off. I don't like to second guess a HOF coach, but I'm still scratching my head over some of his decisions tonight.
WTF do you think is going on with Aldridge? Even on a bad night he shouldn't look this bad. This is a guy who thinks he should be considered for the AS team? That was an embarrassing performance.
It’s alarming considering SA did him a solid and showed complete faith by guaranteeing his deal. They had no reason to do that and if this is what they get for showing faith? It B A D.
I’m ok with lack of offense some nights; Harrell has an insane motor and he’s a big time pest. But not boarding, playing lame defense and just being a ghost? That’s all on LMA and I am hoping it was just a bad night.
But alarming effort from him
ZeusWillJudge
11-01-2019, 12:28 AM
Lonnie Walker four (minutes).
:pop: If you can't make the most out of that, Lonnie, you just won't get any minutes at all.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:30 AM
I’m actually really annoyed by that “Lonnie was horrible” remark by Pop. Pisses me off. Especially after the shitty rotations he’s been rolling out there.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:32 AM
As I stated earlier in the thread, spurs really need to clean up the turnovers. It’s been really bad the first four games. And I feel like half of that is Demar and Dejounte. They have to be better than protecting the ball, period.
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daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:33 AM
Not defending Pop but Lonnie does play out of control like a young Ricky Davis. He's super athletic just like Ricky but makes dumb plays on both ends.
poopbox
11-01-2019, 12:33 AM
It’s alarming considering SA did him a solid and showed complete faith by guaranteeing his deal. They had no reason to do that and if this is what they get for showing faith? It B A D.
I’m ok with lack of offense some nights; Harrell has an insane motor and he’s a big time pest. But not boarding, playing lame defense and just being a ghost? That’s all on LMA and I am hoping it was just a bad night.
But alarming effort from him
Not really sure why it is alarming...LMA has always been a guy who gives effort when he wants...doesn't when he wants...and folds under physical defense...
spurstalk123456
11-01-2019, 12:34 AM
they didnt even have pg and were on a b2b. we still got embarassed.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 12:35 AM
We still got a ways to go to think we can compete with a healthy Clippers team but I'm not too worried after this game. Second chances killed us but I think we'll clean that up and our free throw shooting won't be this bad overall either. And LMA and Murray will play better than this next time. Encouraging game from White though and DeMar came to play.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 12:35 AM
Not defending Pop but Lonnie does play out of control like a young Ricky Davis. He's super athletic just like Ricky but makes dumb plays on both ends.
And that’s fine. He’s 20 years old and going to make a lot of mistakes. But say that. Say “Yea I thought Lonnie struggled a bit today to find his footing” or something along those lines. Not, “He was horrible.” He’s young and that shit is impressionable.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:36 AM
Not defending Pop but Lonnie does play out of control like a young Ricky Davis. He's super athletic just like Ricky but makes dumb plays on both ends.
what does Mills and Beli play like and what are their results?
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:37 AM
they didnt even have pg and were on a b2b. we still got embarassed.
There's nothing to be embarrassed about. The Clippers are beating everybody without PG except the Suns. They took out the Lakers last week. Also have to factor #2 will be super motivated to go off against the Spurs every time he plays them. Nothing you can do about that.
GreekSpursfan
11-01-2019, 12:38 AM
Lol at people thinking that Pop doesn't play Lonnie because of his 4mins. Pop sees Lonnie in practice, he might be terrible there, we don't know. Whenever i listen to Pop speak he doesn't strike me as an idiot, to the contrary. Pop is most probably right not playing him.
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:38 AM
21 3pt attempts, 7 makes, 18 turnovers, 9 missed FT's, its amazing they only lost by two possessions with poor play from LA , and Pops rotations.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:39 AM
what does Mills and Beli play like and what are their results?
I agree Mills and Belli have been trash but that also doesn't absolve Lonnie from his boneheaded plays on both ends. Lonnie's basketball IQ is pretty shitty from what I have seen. The great thing he has right now is his super athletic abilities but he's lost and confused on both ends of the court.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:42 AM
And that’s fine. He’s 20 years old and going to make a lot of mistakes. But say that. Say “Yea I thought Lonnie struggled a bit today to find his footing” or something along those lines. Not, “He was horrible.” He’s young and that shit is impressionable.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong but Pop has always been like this with young players. I remember how he used to make Tony Parker cry during his first few years in the league.
timtonymanu
11-01-2019, 12:43 AM
It’s time for Pop to retire. Just so arrogant and never blames himself. Can’t wait to see how the apologist spin this one.
Budkin
11-01-2019, 12:43 AM
Sounds like Lonnie is done playing for a while.
GreekSpursfan
11-01-2019, 12:43 AM
If LMA isn't all washed up we're gonna make the playoffs and that's were i'm gonna judge Pop. Last season Pop did good there imo, we'll see this year.
Not defending Pop but Lonnie does play out of control like a young Ricky Davis. He's super athletic just like Ricky but makes dumb plays on both ends.
He's played a grand total of like 9 minutes all year.
I don't get how some people can post that he hasn't shown much or that he's erratic when he hasn't even gotten a real chance yet.
timtonymanu
11-01-2019, 12:45 AM
Just let Becky take over
I agree Mills and Belli have been trash but that also doesn't absolve Lonnie from his boneheaded plays on both ends. Lonnie's basketball IQ is pretty shitty from what I have seen. The great thing he has right now is his super athletic abilities but he's lost and confused on both ends of the court.
What boneheaded plays? Can you specifically point to what he did this game? Shouldn't be hard since he only played 4 minutes. In his first stint, he fouled Harrell trying to help which led to an and1 but that shit can (and does) happen to everybody. His second stint, I have no idea what he did that would've caused Pop to yank him.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:47 AM
I agree Mills and Belli have been trash but that also doesn't absolve Lonnie from his boneheaded plays on both ends. Lonnie's basketball IQ is pretty shitty from what I have seen. The great thing he has right now is his super athletic abilities but he's lost and confused on both ends of the court.
Who is saying Lonnie needs to be absolved? We are saying where is that same critique for the guys playing worse, paid more and that Pop is deciding to continually play without being yanked?
cd021
11-01-2019, 12:48 AM
I'm not saying it's right or wrong but Pop has always been like this with young players. I remember how he used to make Tony Parker cry during his first few years in the league.
It depends on the young player tbh, he didn't do it with Kawhi or Murray, he pulled them aside and pointed out mistakes.
For players like Green, he'd pull him out and yell at him and then send him back into the game. He did that one game against the Wolves where Green had already hit 4 threes but made like 5 mistakes. He pulled him, yelled at him, and sent him back in. Green responded by hitting 4 more 3s and much smarter.
He wants them to see and learn from their mistakes, if that player doesn't then I think that;s where he loses patience.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:50 AM
What boneheaded plays? Can you specifically point to what he did this game? Shouldn't be hard since he only played 4 minutes.
The foul on Harrell was pretty stupid and resulted in and 1. They were a few possession where Lonnie failed to switch properly on the defensive end. He committed total of 2 fouls in 5 minutes which is pretty bad.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 12:50 AM
To those complaining about Lonnie not getting enough minutes: tonight was NOT the game to have a young unproven player work through his mistakes. It was a game where he had to make the most of his limited minutes and prove to Pop and the team that he's ready to earn more time...and he was not ready and horrible in those 4 minutes. It was discouraging to see. He looked like a G-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. He has a ways to go, at least for a game like tonight. Against tomorrow's Warriors? Sure, let him show us what he can do. What upsets me more than anything is the possibility that Carroll was a complete waste of a signing.
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Lonnie played horribly though. :rolleyes
Collins21
11-01-2019, 12:52 AM
What has LMA won? DeRozan? PG is by far better than them and there is no logical argument otherwise. Even if you want to call PG soft or a choker or overrated, that’s totally fine. But LMA/DeRozan are that too plus less talented.
No he's not he's a better defender. Paul George ran from the ball and quit on his team in those 2017 playoffs vs the Cavs then came back and got embarrassed by Joe Ingles the next year.
raybies
11-01-2019, 12:54 AM
To be fair, Mills and Belli, although traffic cones, space the floor adequately, know the ins and outs of the offense, know how to play in a system, etc... those things Lonnie doesn't at the time. As much as people like to hate on Pop, he's great at developing players. He doesn't give them anything they don't deserve. There's no entitlement. I hate that he plays his guys over the obvious lineups but I understand. He's an old school coach. All in all, I'd like to see better rotations as well like DJ and White and Carroll taking some of Beli's minutes but as far as the Lonnie cries, they are severely unwarranted. You want Pop to play gum shoe players and cost games that's you not me. Lonnie tonight had two sequences where he flunked. He gave an and 1 in the first half and an and 1 in the second. In the first half Pop did indeed give him some slack. He just didn't in the second. It's ashamed but it's the right call for how he coaches and develops. 4 minutes and -6. You could say it's who he played with but i'd assume the -6 was exactly to two and 1's he gave up for fouling. We should be asking for more Demarre Carrol though. He's a proven commodity and his absence is more perplexing than Lonnie's tbh
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 12:54 AM
No he's not he's a better defender. Paul George ran from the ball and quit on his team in those 2017 playoffs vs the Cavs then came back and got embarrassed by Joe Ingles the next year.
:lol Now you are just being silly.
raybies
11-01-2019, 12:56 AM
Who is saying Lonnie needs to be absolved? We are saying where is that same critique for the guys playing worse, paid more and that Pop is deciding to continually play without being yanked?
to be fair... the guys you would rather him point the blame are vets and have fought battles in the league. They've earned some respect. Lonnie is a second year player that people are heralding like the second coming and was in the G League last year. Tbh he needs to earn his respect.
raybies
11-01-2019, 12:57 AM
He's played a grand total of like 9 minutes all year.
I don't get how some people can post that he hasn't shown much or that he's erratic when he hasn't even gotten a real chance yet.
and he's played like shit and been a detriment... he's not ready..
The foul on Harrell was pretty stupid and resulted in and 1. They were a few possession where Lonnie failed to switch properly on the defensive end. He committed total of 2 fouls in 5 minutes which is pretty bad.
Harrell got 5+ and1s today. Like I said it can happen to anyone. Should not warrant getting yanked.
Can you be more specific about when he failed to "switch properly"? Like describe the sequence? 2 fouls in 5 minutes is not great, but it can happen when you're guarding someone as good as Nephew. He had one really good defensive possession on Neph where he forced him into a turnover. That one sequence was better than anything Belli has done all year, imo.
To those complaining about Lonnie not getting enough minutes: tonight was NOT the game to have a young unproven player work through his mistakes. It was a game where he had to make the most of his limited minutes and prove to Pop and the team that he's ready to earn more time...and he was not ready and horrible in those 4 minutes. It was discouraging to see. He looked like a G-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. He has a ways to go, at least for a game like tonight. Against tomorrow's Warriors? Sure, let him show us what he can do. What upsets me more than anything is the possibility that Carroll was a complete waste of a signing.
You are officially a bad poster, imo.
daslicer
11-01-2019, 12:57 AM
It depends on the young player tbh, he didn't do it with Kawhi or Murray, he pulled them aside and pointed out mistakes.
For players like Green, he'd pull him out and yell at him and then send him back into the game. He did that one game against the Wolves where Green had already hit 4 threes but made like 5 mistakes. He pulled him, yelled at him, and sent him back in. Green responded by hitting 4 more 3s and much smarter.
He wants them to see and learn from their mistakes, if that player doesn't then I think that;s where he loses patience.
That seems to be the key. I remember he wasn't that hard on George Hill either but then again Hill probably learned from his mistakes quicker.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 12:58 AM
List of players that played horribly besides Lonnie and worse because of their importance to the team and their contracts:
1. LMA
2. Murray
3. Mills
4. Marco
But that doesn't erase the fact that Lonnie failed to prove he deserves more minutes after his embarrassing showing in his 4 minutes tonight.
and he's played like shit and been a detriment... he's not ready..
You're going on the bad poster list too if you keep it up, tbh.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 01:00 AM
Harrell got 5+ and1s today. Like I said it can happen to anyone. Should not warrant getting yanked.
Can you be more specific about when he failed to "switch properly"? Like describe the sequence? 2 fouls in 5 minutes is not great, but it can happen when you're guarding someone as good as Nephew. He had one really good defensive possession on Neph where he forced him into a turnover. That one sequence was better than anything Belli has done all year, imo.
You are officially a bad poster, imo.
Coming from you, that doesn't mean shit to me.
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:01 AM
To those complaining about Lonnie not getting enough minutes: tonight was NOT the game to have a young unproven player work through his mistakes. It was a game where he had to make the most of his limited minutes and prove to Pop and the team that he's ready to earn more time...and he was not ready and horrible in those 4 minutes. It was discouraging to see. He looked like a G-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. He has a ways to go, at least for a game like tonight. Against tomorrow's Warriors? Sure, let him show us what he can do. What upsets me more than anything is the possibility that Carroll was a complete waste of a signing.
that's the way i see it.
Quality post :tu
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:02 AM
You're going on the bad poster list too if you keep it up, tbh.
just trying to keep it real bruh
Coming from you, that doesn't mean shit to me.
You need to be better, tbh.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:03 AM
to be fair... the guys you would rather him point the blame are vets and have fought battles in the league. They've earned some respect. Lonnie is a second year player that people are heralding like the second coming and was in the G League last year. Tbh he needs to earn his respect.
What? What does respect have to do with calling out poor performance. You can respect a guy all you want, but if they played bad, you should be honest and treat everyone the same. From top to bottom.
Its not like Lonnie just walked around the court thinking he’s the man and needed to be checked.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:05 AM
So when Pop was assessing why this game was lost, he determined it was Lonnie’s 4minutes that was the culprit?
daslicer
11-01-2019, 01:06 AM
To be fair, Mills and Belli, although traffic cones, space the floor adequately, know the ins and outs of the offense, know how to play in a system, etc... those things Lonnie doesn't at the time. As much as people like to hate on Pop, he's great at developing players. He doesn't give them anything they don't deserve. There's no entitlement. I hate that he plays his guys over the obvious lineups but I understand. He's an old school coach. All in all, I'd like to see better rotations as well like DJ and White and Carroll taking some of Beli's minutes but as far as the Lonnie cries, they are severely unwarranted. You want Pop to play gum shoe players and cost games that's you not me. Lonnie tonight had two sequences where he flunked. He gave an and 1 in the first half and an and 1 in the second. In the first half Pop did indeed give him some slack. He just didn't in the second. It's ashamed but it's the right call for how he coaches and develops. 4 minutes and -6. You could say it's who he played with but i'd assume the -6 was exactly to two and 1's he gave up for fouling. We should be asking for more Demarre Carrol though. He's a proven commodity and his absence is more perplexing than Lonnie's tbh
Agreed that's what I saw tonight from him. Lonnie's basketball IQ isn't there yet. He's going to have to learn to be smarter out there. He has the super athletic abilities to be special but he's going to have to work harder to learn how to actually play the game and not rely on his athleticism to allow him to coast on both ends. He's not fundamentally sound yet on either end of the court.
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:07 AM
What? What does respect have to do with calling out poor performance. You can respect a guy all you want, but if they played bad, you should be honest and treat everyone the same. From top to bottom.
Its not like Lonnie just walked around the court thinking he’s the man and needed to be checked.
Bro, and this is a serious question but what would Pop accomplish by calling out a vet who already are what they are. He called out a developing player who is probably gonna see a ton of minutes tomorrow. Sounds like sound strategy to me...
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:08 AM
Agreed that's what I saw tonight from him. Lonnie's basketball IQ isn't there yet. He's going to have to learn to be smarter out there. He has the super athletic abilities to be special but he's going to have to work harder to learn how to actually play the game and not rely on his athleticism to allow him to coast on both ends. He's not fundamentally sound yet on either end of the court.
i'm starting to think he may need another year in the G League that's how bad it's been... Hopefully he figures it out tomorrow when he should be getting a lot of burn
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:08 AM
Bro, and this is a serious question but what would Pop accomplish by calling out a vet who already are what they are. He called out a developing player who is probably gonna see a ton of minutes tomorrow. Sounds like sound strategy to me...
Umm, the “vets” aren’t stars and aren’t just deserving of minutes. Telling those vets that if they want to continue getting minutes vs turning into Carroll, they need to play significantly better is a great and powerful tool. I have no problem calling out Lonnie. At all. I have a problem with not ALSO calling out the others in the same vein when their performances were quite frankly unacceptable.
You also gain the respect of the locker room by showing you are in touch with reality. Believe me, the guys know who deserves minutes and who is playing well/bad. If you as a coach are disingenuous about that? You run the risk of losing some players.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:10 AM
i'm starting to think he may need another year in the G League that's how bad it's been... Hopefully he figures it out tomorrow when he should be getting a lot of burn
So honest question. If a vet like Beli is making the same or worse mistakes as Lonnie, isnt that MORE alarming that he has never figured it out? At least Lonnie can improve with time and confidence. Beli cannot.
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:12 AM
Umm, the “vets” aren’t stars and aren’t just deserving of minutes. Telling those vets that if they want to continue getting minutes vs turning into Carroll, they need to play significantly better is a great and powerful tool. I have no problem calling out Lonnie. At all. I have a problem with not ALSO calling out the others in the same vein when their performances were quite frankly unacceptable.
You also gain the respect of the locker room by showing you are in touch with reality. Believe me, the guys know who deserves minutes and who is playing well/bad. If you as a coach are disingenuous about that? You run the risk of losing some players.
nope... in this system there's a pecking order. Everyone who comes here knows that. Guaranteed. Players talk. That's why the Lyles to the starting lineup should have been a huge deal. That is really unlike Pop. What love for one of these reporters to ask a question like, " what kind of things does Trey add to the starting lineup?"
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:13 AM
nope... in this system there's a pecking order. Everyone who comes here knows that. Guaranteed. Players talk. That's why the Lyles to the starting lineup should have been a huge deal. That is really unlike Pop. What love for one of these reporters to ask a question like, " what kind of things does Trey add to the starting lineup?"
:lol equating guys like Mills and Beli to stars where you have to coddle them. Absolutely not. You can and should rip into them and bench them if they are sucking it up. They have done nothing to deserve exempt status and in fact that is a major problem if you think they do.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 01:14 AM
So honest question. If a vet like Beli is making the same or worse mistakes as Lonnie, isnt that MORE alarming that he has never figured it out? At least Lonnie can improve with time and confidence. Beli cannot.
It's not accurate to say Beli's NEVER figured it out, tbh but yes, he is no longer much of an asset to this team.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:16 AM
It's not accurate to say Beli's NEVER figured it out, tbh.
Really? It’s not? I’m not talking about the past. Past does not matter when accounting for play right now. As of this season, Beli has made the same and worse mistakes than Lonnie. But there is little hope of him improving.
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:17 AM
:lol equating guys like Mills and Beli to stars where you have to coddle them. Absolutely not. You can and should rip into them and bench them if they are sucking it up. They have done nothing to deserve exempt status and in fact that is a major problem if you think they do.
unfortunately the "culture" is in "exempt" status apparently. Doesn't matter what I think though. This is the way Pop's been coaching for like 22 years. Every year he does this same stuff to everyone's surprise. I'm not worried at this point he usually does what' best for the team when he has to. He experiments early in the season.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:21 AM
unfortunately the "culture" is in "exempt" status apparently. Doesn't matter what I think though. This is the way Pop's been coaching for like 22 years. Every year he does this same stuff to everyone's surprise. I'm not worried at this point he usually does what' best for the team when he has to. He experiments early in the season.
Yeah, I’m not worried per say just calling out some bogus stuff. Pop is still a great coach, but he has his flaws. While he and the Spurs are great at developing talent, he also lags behind many others at when they are ready. It’s chicken in the egg.
It’s not always the young talent breaking out because of the best development; they were usually ready before they got their chance.
Then the sticking to the negative low ceiling guys like Mills/Beli is another flaw. You can be a great coach and have flaws.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 01:22 AM
Really? It’s not? I’m not talking about the past. Past does not matter when accounting for play right now. As of this season, Beli has made the same and worse mistakes than Lonnie. But there is little hope of him improving.
Yeah, I was referring to the past. I see where you're coming from and I understand the frustration. Still, tonight showed me and others that Lonnie wasn't ready tonight. Beli was just as shitty too but at least we know he can always get hot in long range so Pop was more willing to bank on that than Lonnie's raw athleticism. That's just how Pop operates. I'd rather Carroll took both their minutes tonight honestly but I hope Lonnie takes all of Marco's minutes tomorrow. He just isn't ready yet for a marquee matchup like tonight. In an ideal world, we don't have Marco on this team anymore.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:23 AM
Yeah, I was referring to the past. I see where you're coming from and I understand the frustration. Still, tonight showed me and others that Lonnie wasn't ready tonight. Beli was just as ahitty too but at least we know he can always get hot in long range so Pop was more willing to bank on that than Lonnie's raw athleticism. I hope he takes all of Marco's minutes tomorrow but he isn't ready for a marquee matchup like tonight.
That’s fine and I agree; he’s still a better option than Beli though.
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:25 AM
Yeah, I’m not worried per say just calling out some bogus stuff. Pop is still a great coach, but he has his flaws. While he and the Spurs are great at developing talent, he also lags behind many others at when they are ready. It’s chicken in the egg.
It’s not always the young talent breaking out because of the best development; they were usually ready before they got their chance.
Then the sticking to the negative low ceiling guys like Mills/Beli is another flaw. You can be a great coach and have flaws.
I agree... he's loyal to his guys to a fault sometimes. It's just a coach going to the players he trusts when it's black and white. Players have to take their spots. He's not going to just give that to anybody. That's just the way he is.
On a side note, I'd give it till the minutes restriction increases with the DJ & White lineup. If he doesn't play them together once the minutes will have to overlap then I'd start to worry if he's lost his marbles.
SpurPadre
11-01-2019, 01:30 AM
It might seem way too premature to worry about anything at this point, including Carroll not getting any playing time...but he was supposed to be our one big signing and he's old. There has to be more to this story than we know. He has been known to have a solid BBIQ so I can't believe he is completely befuddled by the system and looks completely shitty in practices.
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:31 AM
You can’t be a coach that cares about defense and gets on the team about it but then play DeRozan/Beli/Mills together. You just can’t. You are either serious about defense are you aren’t.
I get trying to have some balance, but at some point you have to give the defense a shot at succeeding. It’s not been awful overall, but could be so much better. But Pop has a fear of the offense falling off too much if he goes that route.
Which is odd, because Beli is giving nothing on offense anyways so what are you losing there?
loveforthegame
11-01-2019, 01:39 AM
:lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1190125968607924224
raybies
11-01-2019, 01:41 AM
:lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1190125968607924224
:wow :lol
DPG21920
11-01-2019, 01:44 AM
It’s so demoralizing watching DeRozan get owned by Kawhi. It really is. That game vs TOR last year where DeRozan lie helpless at mid court after Kawhi owned him.
Saw it the same today. Just sad man.
gambit1990
11-01-2019, 02:11 AM
:lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1190125968607924224
:lmao
chuck is the best.
Fireball
11-01-2019, 02:54 AM
my takeaways
- the Spurs had a chance to win despite LMA totally disappearing while Kawhi dominated ...
- these limited minutes for our young guys suck ... not playing White 30 minutes is nuts, he was hot from three and should have played alongside Murray in the 4th
- props to the Clippers for taking away two of our biggest strengths this season ... fastbreaks and offensive rebounds
- against well coached disciplined teams Murray still has a tough time to score ... against the Warriors he would have a field day but we will never know
- Lonnie played and as everybody here agrees was not worse than Belli on the court
Agreed. Can't stand Beverly. He gets away with fouling half of the time. He's midget Draymond Green for the Clippers without the passing abilities.
I appreciate Beverlys throw back style, but all the extra antics are frustrating to watch. But now that Kawhi is on the Clippers and they are darling contenders, he is going to have a really, REALLY long leash from the refs, ala Draymond.
my takeaways
- the Spurs had a chance to win despite LMA totally disappearing while Kawhi dominated ...
- these limited minutes for our young guys suck ... not playing White 30 minutes is nuts, he was hot from three and should have played alongside Murray in the 4th
- props to the Clippers for taking away two of our biggest strengths this season ... fastbreaks and offensive rebounds
- against well coached disciplined teams Murray still has a tough time to score ... against the Warriors he would have a field day but we will never know
- Lonnie played and as everybody here agrees was not worse than Belli on the court
I disagree. It’s why I called him out in the post game.
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What an ass hat Pop has become.
monty4329
11-01-2019, 04:10 AM
I hope Lonnie plays 30 minutes next game, which is against a worse than G-league lineup.
So we'll get done with this nonsense. Or maybe not, there will still be people here thinking he is ready.
r0drig0lac
11-01-2019, 05:55 AM
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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Although I believe Popovich is overrated, he is arguably the goat, but at this point he has completely lost his ability, when you have Mills and Marco on the court playing so many minutes, you have no right to call any player that way, especially for defensive tasks.
spurs50_
11-01-2019, 06:52 AM
Didn't he play a whole four minutes?
Capt Bringdown
11-01-2019, 07:27 AM
It’s so demoralizing watching DeRozan get owned by Kawhi. It really is. That game vs TOR last year where DeRozan lie helpless at mid court after Kawhi owned him.
Saw it the same today. Just sad man.
Total ownage. I think Leonard could have stolen DeRozan's ball at will.
The Spurs offense never got on track because DeRozan was trying to make it a one-one-one battle from the tip.
Pathetic.
DeRozan is Durant-esque in the emo, but without Durant's talent or physical ability.
BatManu20
11-01-2019, 08:39 AM
Pop prob kissing Kawhi’s ass even though he fucked over the franchise.
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daslicer
11-01-2019, 09:09 AM
Pop prob kissing Kawhi’s ass even though he fucked over the franchise.
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Pop has always been a cuck. He’s probably begging #2 to to join team USA.
Chomag
11-01-2019, 09:09 AM
:lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1190125968607924224
This needs it's own thread :lmao
Mugen
11-01-2019, 09:11 AM
Fucking Pop... Guess Lonnie can kiss his minutes goodbye.
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:lol Fuck this out of touch POS...calling out a young promising player stuck behind your shit rotations...while every other loser on the team gets a free pass. Fucking retire already.
KobesAchilles
11-01-2019, 10:06 AM
Lonnie played horrible no doubt. However he only played 4 minutes. Pop has been coaching for 20+ years now. You don’t call out a 20 year old player when A) he only played 4 minutes and B) we had like 18 turnovers, 9 missed free throws, didn’t hit any 3s, and our supposed all star scored 5 points.
Now if Pop was consistently playing Lonnie and called out his effort in order to put expectations on him then I would agree with that. But calling out essentially your 14th man on the roster is bush league
Chomag
11-01-2019, 10:52 AM
If anything Pop should be calling out LA for his disappearing act.
TD 21
11-01-2019, 05:28 PM
It’s so demoralizing watching DeRozan get owned by Kawhi. It really is. That game vs TOR last year where DeRozan lie helpless at mid court after Kawhi owned him.
Saw it the same today. Just sad man.
The whole ordeal has been. To everything that puke pulled to how everything has worked out for him and hasn't for this organization, to watching him emasculate them and expose their lack of a big wing defender, to the senile coach unwittingly being complicit in it with his usual litany of bizarre decisions, to his usual cuck routine pre/post game.
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