ROFL breaches in new sections of the Wall make using tools from Home Depot

[Blake]

"SAN DIEGO — Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html

[benefactor]

“virtually impenetrable”

[koriwhat]

regardless of your stance on trump i see this thread as a "fuck you usa" moment for yall losers as well why are yall betting against our country? sad that yall call yourselves Americans tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

they should have made the wall out of metal with high voltage/ampere wiring on the Mexican side and electrocuted anyone who tried to cross or fuck with it tbh.

[Chris]

regardless of your stance on trump i see this thread as a "fuck you usa" moment for yall losers as well why are yall betting against our country? sad that yall call yourselves Americans tbh.

We're talking about Blake, are you really surprised? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Another FAIL by Trash and has DHS/ICE/CBP goons

[koriwhat]

We're talking about Blake, are you really surprised? :lol

definitely not surprised.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol YOU MUST LOVE THE WALL TO BE MURICAN

[Blake]

regardless of your stance on trump i see this thread as a "fuck you usa" moment for yall losers as well why are yall betting against our country? sad that yall call yourselves Americans tbh.

I'm laughing at the idiots that thought this wall would work. But you're an idiot too.

[Chris]

I'm laughing at the idiots

Blake' life summed up in 5 words.

[koriwhat]

I'm laughing at the idiots that thought this wall would work. But you're an idiot too.

nah, you're clearly a pos and not a true American. we can read all your posts and deduce just that tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I hope the Sawzalls are made in the US at least.

[Blake]

Blake' life summed up in 5 words.

It makes up a lot of my time reading your posts for sure

[Blake]

nah, you're clearly a pos and not a true American. we can read all your posts and deduce just that tbh.

Nah, you're just stupid

[koriwhat]

Nah, you're just stupid

whatever you brittle spine having faggot

[Chris]

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=Blehke&top2=1980-2065&top3=I%27m+just+laughing+&top4=at+the+idiots&sp=

[Blake]

whatever you brittle spine having faggot

K, druggy

[Blake]

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=Blehke&top2=1980-2065&top3=I%27m+just+laughing+&top4=at+the+idiots&sp=

Lol Chris

[koriwhat]

K, druggy

back to your cliche "i'm out" stance... all sizzle

[Blake]

back to your cliche "i'm out" stance... all sizzle

Well there's no use arguing with a drugged out idiot

[koriwhat]

Well there's no use arguing with a drugged out idiot

you must be the drugged out one here because all i'm on is some starbucks tea and water. what psychoactive anxiety pills for the weak are you on today loser?

[Blake]

K, druggy

[koriwhat]

talking to yourself blaKKKe? isn't that what druggies do? i know my methhead cousin has voices in his head and has been in rehab now for over a yr. you want the rehab info so you can get some help too?

[Spurtacular]

Blake happy. More brown guys to fuck his "wife".

[Blake]

talking to yourself blaKKKe? isn't that what druggies do? i know my methhead cousin has voices in his head and has been in rehab now for over a yr. you want the rehab info so you can get some help too?

Of course kw has rehab info right at his finger tips

[Blake]

Blake happy. More brown guys to fuck his "wife".

Of course derp is picturing a bunch of brown guys having sex

[Spurtacular]

Of course derp is picturing a bunch of brown guys having sex

Of course you're rolling out the red carpet for brown guys to fuck your "wife".

:lmao Stupid cuck

[ChumpDumper]

So there's a serious discussion about the efficacy of the wall, right?

[Spurtacular]

So there's a serious discussion about the efficacy of the wall, right?

We know that you're really concerned about the efficacy of the wall, amirite?

[ChumpDumper]

I guess some people have other priorities. Seems like a colossal waste of money if the wall can be beaten by a trip to Harbor Freight. I'd like to see the arguments for it.

[Spurtacular]

I guess some people have other priorities. Seems like a colossal waste of money if the wall can be beaten by a trip to Harbor Freight. I'd like to see the arguments for it.

If the wall has efficacy are you for it?

[Chucho]

Lol, cute. Derp still working on his vocabulary, still trying to not sound like a fucking retard and doing a lousy job of it.

[SnakeBoy]

I guess some people have other priorities. Seems like a colossal waste of money if the wall can be beaten by a trip to Harbor Freight. I'd like to see the arguments for it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-wall-smugglers-are-sawing-through-the-border-wall-but-officials-say-its-not-an-issue-2019-11-02/

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-wall-smugglers-are-sawing-through-the-border-wall-but-officials-say-its-not-an-issue-2019-11-02/"It's not about whether people can breach it or not, there's nothing people can't breach," the official said. "It's about the capability for the agents on the ground. This is a wall system. There are cameras, there are sensors, there's the wall. All of that buys agents time and space to be able to respond. If someone cuts through the wall, by the time they finish there's going to be an agent standing right there."

If they cut all the way through it, they're going to be able to cut through the repaired section more quickly the next time.

[SnakeBoy]

"It's not about whether people can breach it or not, there's nothing people can't breach," the official said. "It's about the capability for the agents on the ground. This is a wall system. There are cameras, there are sensors, there's the wall. All of that buys agents time and space to be able to respond. If someone cuts through the wall, by the time they finish there's going to be an agent standing right there."

If they cut all the way through it, they're going to be able to cut through the repaired section more quickly the next time.

And then what?

[ChumpDumper]

And then what?And then by their admission the patrol wouldn't get there in time anytime after the first.

[Blake]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-wall-smugglers-are-sawing-through-the-border-wall-but-officials-say-its-not-an-issue-2019-11-02/

"....and have also used makeshift ladders to scale and climb over the wall."

Were agents standing right there?

[Blake]

"...Mr. Trump has repeatedly claimed that new portions of the wall are already being built, although Mark Morgan, acting chief of U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, admitted during a press conference at the White House in October that none of the 71 new miles of border wall the administration has built are new "linear miles." That means the administration is thus far replacing existing barricades or wall instead of adding wall in places where no barricade or wall existed."


Lol good Americans like Chris, kw and superderp approve of the lies.

[koriwhat]

Of course kw has rehab info right at his finger tips

what does that even mean tbh? how stupid you truly are grasping at straws and trying to make your "druggy" argument legitimate. tell your doc to up your meds already you loon!

[koriwhat]

"...Mr. Trump has repeatedly claimed that new portions of the wall are already being built, although Mark Morgan, acting chief of U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, admitted during a press conference at the White House in October that none of the 71 new miles of border wall the administration has built are new "linear miles." That means the administration is thus far replacing existing barricades or wall instead of adding wall in places where no barricade or wall existed."


Lol good Americans like Chris, kw and superderp approve of the lies.

i only approve of more security at our borders but keep writing that cuckold narrative of yours if you must.

[Blake]

i only approve of more security at our borders but keep writing that cuckold narrative of yours if you must.

Trump lied. You're okay with that. Because you're stupid.

[koriwhat]

Trump lied. You're okay with that. Because you're stupid.

your claim is so ridiculous... idgaf if trump lied, i simply want our borders more secure than they are right now. i wanted the same before trump came along and so did all your false gods on the left. i guess they lied too; they lie all the fucking time!

you come across as such a weak person blaKKKe. ugh...

[SnakeBoy]

And then by their admission the patrol wouldn't get there in time anytime after the first.

So the cartel will just keep getting through the same spot and the patrol will never be close enough to catch them?

[ChumpDumper]

So the cartel will just keep getting through the same spot and the patrol will never be close enough to catch them?My guess is they will cut the fence in more than one spot.

Do you think they will only cut it in one spot?

[SnakeBoy]

My guess is they will cut the fence in more than one spot.

Do you think they will only cut it in one spot?

Don't try to change the subject.

Let's flush out your "the patrol wouldn't get there in time anytime after the first" theory. Why would the patrol always be just far enough away to never catch them if they know exactly where they keep cutting through?

[ChumpDumper]

Don't try to change the subject.

Let's flush out your "the patrol wouldn't get there in time anytime after the first" theory. Why would the patrol always be just far enough away to never catch them if they know exactly where they keep cutting through?:lol That's exactly why I said there would be more than one place they would cut.

It's the same subject.

And the fence is more easily cut after the first time, so the same response time would have to be faster.

It's all really quite simple.

[Spurtacular]

Lol, cute. Derp still working on his vocabulary, still trying to not sound like a fucking retard and doing a lousy job of it.

Obligatory lash out.

[DarrinS]

Don't lock your doors, folks. They are easily defeated with the right tools.

[Spurtacular]

Don't lock your doors, folks. They are easily defeated with the right tools.

:lmao Chumpettes.

[ElNono]

Don't lock your doors, folks. They are easily defeated with the right tools.

When he says ‘virtually impenetrable’, what kind of idiots do you think he’s talking to, tbh?

[ChumpDumper]

When he says ‘virtually impenetrable’, what kind of idiots do you think he’s talking to, tbh?Darrin is exactly the idiot he's talking to.

[DarrinS]

When he says ‘virtually impenetrable’, what kind of idiots do you think he’s talking to, tbh?

All security systems have vulnerabilities. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea to keep trying to improve them.

Dems were hacked by a simple phishing attack. Lolz

[ChumpDumper]

Don't lock your doors, folks. They are easily defeated with the right tools.How much does your door lock cost, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

Darrin is exactly the idiot he's talking to.

I see you spent your whole Saturday slap fighting on the internets. Sad

I went to a car show

[ChumpDumper]

I see you spent your whole Saturday slap fighting on the internets. Sad

I went to a car showI had a big night yesterday. Were you sad then? Took it easy today.

[ElNono]

All security systems have vulnerabilities. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea to keep trying to improve them.

Dems were hacked by a simple phishing attack. Lolz

You didn’t answer the question. Basically, you admitted his comment was full of shit (we agree).

[DarrinS]

You didn’t answer the question. Basically, you admitted his comment was full of shit (we agree).

:tu

[DarrinS]

I had a big night yesterday. Were you sad then? Took it easy today.

Get a new bottle of lotion and some Kleenex?


:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Get a new bottle of lotion and some Kleenex?


:lmaoThat's your idea of a big night?

You do you, Darrin.

:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

:lol That's exactly why I said there would be more than one place they would cut.

It's the same subject.

And the fence is more easily cut after the first time, so the same response time would have to be faster.

It's all really quite simple.

You said


And then by their admission the patrol wouldn't get there in time anytime after the first.

Now you're trying to deflect by saying they'll cut more than one spot but that doesn't makes sense either because border patrol has more than one patrol car. Let's say they cut 50 spots along a ten mile stretch, you don't think border patrol will know to focus on that ten mile stretch?

[ChumpDumper]

You said



Now you're trying to deflect by saying they'll cut more than one spot but that doesn't makes sense either because border patrol has more than one patrol car. Let's say they cut 50 spots along a ten mile stretch, you don't think border patrol will know to focus on that ten mile stretch?And you don't think whoever cuts them would just move and cut some more to see what happens there while the original cuts still remain?

[SnakeBoy]

And you don't think whoever cuts them would just move and cut some more to see what happens there while the original cuts still remain?

How far will they move between spots?

[ChumpDumper]

How far will they move between spots?No way of telling.

Do you expect them to announce where they will cut through the fence?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

idgaf if trump lied

You're pathetic

[monosylab1k]

idgaf if trump lied

we know. Lying politicians are okay if it’s Team Red.

[Blake]

we know. Lying politicians are okay if it’s Team Red.

BUT I VOTED FOR OBAMA

[Blake]

No way of telling.

Do you expect them to announce where they will cut through the fence?

Yes or no.

Lol.

[koriwhat]

You're pathetic

boohoo bitchass blaKKKe


we know. Lying politicians are okay if it’s Team Red.

you're kidding right because all of the left is sitting on a mountain of lies. you've got to be kidding if you think it's just the republicans.

[koriwhat]

BUT I VOTED FOR OBAMA

i did and i've also never been cucked like you have. :tu

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i did and i've also never been cucked like you have. :tu

You have to have a girlfriend to get cucked, Joey.

[DMC]

So having no barrier at all is a better option? Surely some people slip through customs undetected, even with contraband. Does that mean customs is ineffective?

[Chris]

So having no barrier at all is a better option? Surely some people slip through customs undetected, even with contraband. Does that mean customs is ineffective?

Don't ask the OP. He's just here to laugh at the idiots.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So having no barrier at all is a better option? Surely some people slip through customs undetected, even with contraband. Does that mean customs is ineffective?

Barrier in some places sure. Point is that the barrier should not be such that 10 minutes and a sawzall gets through it.

[DMX7]

The Wall is now an ideology, not just a physical barrier. The “Forever Trumpers” will never let it go.

[ElNono]

So having no barrier at all is a better option? Surely some people slip through customs undetected, even with contraband. Does that mean customs is ineffective?

Not sure who advanced that? Congress authorized a fence a long time ago, IIRC. Much cheaper to deploy, repair and replace as needed, and probably requires just about the same monitoring.

The point is that when this wall ‘solution’ was sold as this ‘virtually impenetrable’ barrier, most non-stupid people called it for what it was: a simpleton non-solution to a complex problem.

As other posters have noted, this quickly turned into a political and expensive rallying cry for idiots, and not much more than that.

[CosmicCowboy]

I see the wall as similar to locks on your house or car. Its symbolic of "dont come in". They can be defeated by a dedicated crook but the casual person is deterred. Walls can help in populated areas especially. I dont support a coast to coast wall.

[Blake]

Don't ask the OP. He's just here to laugh at the idiots.

Lol Chris

[monosylab1k]

boohoo bitchass blaKKKe



you're kidding right because all of the left is sitting on a mountain of lies. you've got to be kidding if you think it's just the republicans.

:lmao completely changing the subject.

When Red Team lies, you’re fine with it. It’s okay to admit it.

[boutons_deux]

The Wall is now an ideology, not just a physical barrier. The “Forever Trumpers” will never let it go.

an ideology that works like Religion, making/keeping stupid people stupid, irrational, "believing" fantasies, deny (overwhelming) consensus, etc.

[DMC]

Barrier in some places sure. Point is that the barrier should not be such that 10 minutes and a sawzall gets through it.

That gets through a lot of barriers though, even the walls in many homes. Most crossers aren't carrying a sawzall.

[DMC]

Not sure who advanced that? Congress authorized a fence a long time ago, IIRC. Much cheaper to deploy, repair and replace as needed, and probably requires just about the same monitoring.

The point is that when this wall ‘solution’ was sold as this ‘virtually impenetrable’ barrier, most non-stupid people called it for what it was: a simpleton non-solution to a complex problem.

As other posters have noted, this quickly turned into a political and expensive rallying cry for idiots, and not much more than that.

The OP itself is attempting to advance the notion that, because someone sawed through a part of it, the wall is ineffective. All security has some porousness to it. The concept of a wall to keep out undocumented immigrants isn't a novel one. Someone offer a solution to the complex problem other countries are dealing with that the US has little power to change.

[Blake]

The OP itself is attempting to advance the notion that, because someone sawed through a part of it, the wall is ineffective. All security has some porousness to it. The concept of a wall to keep out undocumented immigrants isn't a novel one. Someone offer a solution to the complex problem other countries are dealing with that the US has little power to change.

Not the op's notion, dumbass. It's your President's.

[DMC]

Not the op's notion, dumbass.

"virtually"

So yes, unlike your ex wife.

[Blake]

"virtually"

So yes, unlike your ex wife.

Lol dmc doesn't get it. Par.

[Spurtacular]

Not the op's notion, dumbass. It's your President's.

The president isn't a deity, dumb cuck. You don't capitalize it there.

[Spurtacular]

"virtually"

So yes, unlike your ex wife.

:lol wut?

[UZER]

LOL people lock their cars when the glass can just be broken. Idiots.

[ChumpDumper]

$24.4 million per car lock. I mean if we're going to torture comparisons, let's go all the way.

[ElNono]

The OP itself is attempting to advance the notion that, because someone sawed through a part of it, the wall is ineffective. All security has some porousness to it. The concept of a wall to keep out undocumented immigrants isn't a novel one. Someone offer a solution to the complex problem other countries are dealing with that the US has little power to change.

The problem is that the wall is ineffective. It’s not like we didn’t already know we had a motivated and well funded opponent and that the onus was going to be on monitoring and enforcement. The response back then was ‘well, let them build it then we’ll see’. Now we’re seeing. we’ve spent a boatload of money in what was predictably an inefficient barrier.

What’s startling here is the ignorance and idiocy.

[ChumpDumper]

Obviously you weld a new window on the car.

[Blake]

The president isn't a deity, dumb cuck. You don't capitalize it there.

Aww derp trying to play spell check police on an informal message board. That's adorable.

[Spurtacular]

Aww derp trying to play spell check police on an informal message board. That's adorable.

:lol "spell check"

Go ahead and worship Trump if that's what you want to do, stupid fucking cuck.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That gets through a lot of barriers though, even the walls in many homes. Most crossers aren't carrying a sawzall.

:lol Trump's idea of border security.

[spurraider21]

So having no barrier at all is a better option? Surely some people slip through customs undetected, even with contraband. Does that mean customs is ineffective?
need a 21st century approach to it. most illegal immigration these days consists of people coming legally and then overstaying visas. spending billions for a wall never made much sense. all things considered, not a huge part of the budget. basically just a big federal/social jobs program.

people being convinced it was a necessary step was always baffling... especially absurd were the promises (and belief) that mexico would pay for it

[koriwhat]

You have to have a girlfriend to get cucked, Joey.

It's truly astonishing how much of a loser you are and a few others here just like you. The belief tattooers get no pussy is ridiculous. I get it, you dislike me, but even I get pussy while you sit here trying your best to put me down all the while you go pussyless. Living with your parents fuzzy at 37 isn't an ideal situation for any woman to want to be a part of.

[koriwhat]

:lmao completely changing the subject.

When Red Team lies, you’re fine with it. It’s okay to admit it.

Idc about either "team" but keep on with your retarded theory that everyone who isn't a pussy like yourself must be a nazi trump supporter. Fucking pussy!

[Blake]

"virtually"

So yes, unlike your ex wife.


:lol wut?

Lol even derp noticed DMCs fail.

[Blake]

Idc about either "team"

Kw lying again shooting det par etc

[Blake]

need a 21st century approach to it. most illegal immigration these days consists of people coming legally and then overstaying visas. spending billions for a wall never made much sense. all things considered, not a huge part of the budget. basically just a big federal/social jobs program.

people being convinced it was a necessary step was always baffling... especially absurd were the promises (and belief) that mexico would pay for it

MEXICO WILL PAY FOR REPAIRS

[Spurtacular]

Lol even derp noticed DMCs fail.

You shouldn't say even anything when you're a certified cuck. :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's truly astonishing how much of a loser you are and a few others here just like you. The belief tattooers get no pussy is ridiculous. I get it, you dislike me, but even I get pussy while you sit here trying your best to put me down all the while you go pussyless. Living with your parents fuzzy at 37 isn't an ideal situation for any woman to want to be a part of.

I never said tattooers. I said you.

[Blake]

You shouldn't say even anything when you're a certified cuck. :lmao

Yet you're so obsessed with me and my personal life. It consumes your weekend nights.

[Spurtacular]

**

[monosylab1k]

Idc about either "team" but keep on with your retarded theory that everyone who isn't a pussy like yourself must be a nazi trump supporter. Fucking pussy!

So you would criticize Trump if he lied? The same way you do when Adam Schiff lies?

[monosylab1k]

I never said tattooers. I said you.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

**

[Spurtacular]

Yet you're so obsessed with me and my personal life. It consumes your weekend nights.

I think it's hilarious that a certified cuck wants to spread the same views that got you cucked in the first place.

[Blake]

I think it's hilarious that a certified cuck wants to spread the same views that got you cucked in the first place.

Excellent use of your weekend nights

[Spurtacular]

Excellent use of your weekend nights

Are you making fun of yourself right now?

:lmao Cuck Blake

[Blake]

Are you making fun of yourself right now?

:lmao Cuck Blake

Lol retard

[Spurtacular]

Lol retard

Lol Certified cuck

[koriwhat]

Kw lying again shooting det par etc

no one gives a fuck what a pussy cuckold like yourself has to say tbh. no one. you're the bottom rung of men. you're weak, you're a push over, you're a pussy, you're a cuckold, and well you're not much of a man to begin with blaKKKe so i take little stock in what you say here on ST. i literally imagine the most pathetic of a man when i read your dribble here daily and see your screen name.


I never said tattooers. I said you.

this whole "you get no pussy" shit is ridiculous. you can hate me all you'd like but i indeed get pussy and sleep next to a lovely lady nightly. i might not be boyfriend material because i don't want that label nor commitment but i do have a lady.

i get it though because it's the go-to for internet cut downs but it's simply not true what you spew. it's ok though; whatever gets you through the day...


So you would criticize Trump if he lied? The same way you do when Adam Schiff lies?

show me how many times i've criticized schiff. like true criticism and not just me calling him a bitch or whatnot. then come back here puffing your chest as if you know anything at all...

[ChumpDumper]

:lol kori

[Blake]

korirant ®️

[monosylab1k]

show me how many times i've criticized schiff. like true criticism and not just me calling him a bitch or whatnot. then come back here puffing your chest as if you know anything at all...

:lmao

“I don’t criticize Democrats, I just call them bitches” :lmao

So you’re okay with all politicians being liars?

Would you dare ever call your Dear Leader a bitch?

[Blake]

:lmao

“I don’t criticize Democrats, I just call them bitches” :lmao



:lol

[Blake]

show me how many times i've criticized schiff. like true criticism and not just me calling him a bitch or whatnot. then come back here puffing your chest as if you know anything at all...


the usual suspects, right chris? those that scream the loudest and try to plug the holes are usually those neck deep in the swamp.

Five second search found one. That was easy

[koriwhat]

:lmao

“I don’t criticize Democrats, I just call them bitches” :lmao

So you’re okay with all politicians being liars?

Would you dare ever call your Dear Leader a bitch?

he's your dear leader since you call him that so much. i've never referred to trump as such nor did i vote for him or support him. i simply think you all are loons just like those on the hill who yall vote in and those in the MSM. yall are hyperbolic retards! and yes, all politicians lie but that doesn't mean i'm ok with it; it is what it is.

as well, that fake quote is awesome considering we were specifically talking about schiff which you presented absolutely 0 proof to back your last claim up. it was totally expected though you hyperbolic retard.


Five second search found one. That was easy

what exactly did you find though? nada to be exact...

[monosylab1k]

he's your dear leader since you call him that so much. i've never referred to trump as such nor did i vote for him or support him. i simply think you all are loons just like those on the hill who yall vote in and those in the MSM. yall are hyperbolic retards! and yes, all politicians lie but that doesn't mean i'm ok with it; it is what it is.

as well, that fake quote is awesome considering we were specifically talking about schiff which you presented absolutely 0 proof to back your last claim up. it was totally expected though you hyperbolic retard.



what exactly did you find though? nada to be exact...

:lmao you don’t support Trump, you just spend hours every day listening to conservative incels knobslob him.

[koriwhat]

:lmao you don’t support Trump, you just spend hours every day listening to conservative incels knobslob him.

not at all... and who would those conservatives be exactly or are you going to swerve your own claim once again lardass?

i listen to a ton of tim pool and last time i checked he didn't knockslob trump at all but i can't say anything about whether or not he's an incel you incel.

[Blake]

what exactly did you find though? nada to be exact...

I found you criticizing Schiff, dumbass.

[Blake]

:lmao you don’t support Trump, you just spend hours every day listening to conservative incels knobslob him.

I DON'T HAVE CALF TATS IT'S JUST NEEDLE INK ON THE BACK OF MY LOWER LEGS

[koriwhat]

I found you criticizing Schiff, dumbass.

oh no i claimed those that scream the loudest are usually those deep in the swamp... you're so bitchmade it's sad.


I DON'T HAVE CALF TATS IT'S JUST NEEDLE INK ON THE BACK OF MY LOWER LEGS

better than watching your wife fuck another guy because you got no game and your dick is as limp as your spine.

you realize no matter how hard you try to climb out of your hole you will never succeed and always be the cuck that you are... you're less of a man tbh and your opinions don't mean shit to me and many others.

[DMC]

The problem is that the wall is ineffective. It’s not like we didn’t already know we had a motivated and well funded opponent and that the onus was going to be on monitoring and enforcement. The response back then was ‘well, let them build it then we’ll see’. Now we’re seeing. we’ve spent a boatload of money in what was predictably an inefficient barrier.

What’s startling here is the ignorance and idiocy.

What would be more efficient?

[DMC]

:lol Trump's idea of border security.
What's yours?

[Spurtacular]

:lol kori

:cry Muh loophole

:lmao Neutered Chump

[DMC]

need a 21st century approach to it. most illegal immigration these days consists of people coming legally and then overstaying visas. spending billions for a wall never made much sense. all things considered, not a huge part of the budget. basically just a big federal/social jobs program.

people being convinced it was a necessary step was always baffling... especially absurd were the promises (and belief) that mexico would pay for it

It's not just about illegal immigration. The fact you know the stats on overstayed visas tells me that it's not the same issue as being undocumented.

Pretty sure the visa folks are not undocumented. The overstayed visa thing is the "But Chicago" angle for the left on this issue. If the bigger issue is overstayed visas, it doesn't mean undocumented border crossings isn't a big issue. In order to get a visa, you have to be documented. I am sure the roads have plenty unlicensed drivers, uninsured drivers.... all of these are separate issues. So no need to bring up documented illegals to counter measures to prevent undocumented ones.

[spurraider21]

Pretty sure the visa folks are not undocumented. The overstayed visa thing is the "But Chicago" angle for the left on this issue. If the bigger issue is overstayed visas, it doesn't mean undocumented border crossings isn't a big issue. In order to get a visa, you have to be documented. I am sure the roads have plenty unlicensed drivers, uninsured drivers.... all of these are separate issues. So no need to bring up documented illegals to counter measures to prevent undocumented ones.
except the same approach to combat visa overstays can be used to combat illegal crossers... cracking down on employers.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Muh loophole

:lmao Neutered Chump:lol derp

[DMC]

except the same approach to combat visa overstays can be used to combat illegal crossers... cracking down on employers.

How do you crack down on someone being employed for cash when you have no record of them existing in your country? ICE raids? I think that's happening already.

I am all for cracking down on people not checking citizenship status but it seems the left wants to make it a crime for anyone to ask.

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp

:cry I got my tubes untied.

:lmao Foot soldier Chump
:lmao Snitch Factor's bitch

[ChumpDumper]

:cry I got my tubes untied.

:lmao Foot soldier Chump
:lmao Snitch Factor's bitch?

[Blake]

What would be more efficient?

To spend the money on any number of other things of critical importance.

[Spurtacular]

?

Troglodyte Mode Activated

[Spurtacular]

To spend the money on any number of other things of critical importance.

It's not critically important to keep out Mexico's criminals?

[Blake]

It's not critically important to keep out Mexico's criminals?

There's no way to discuss anything with retarded goal post movers like you.

Get back to your ankle biting, freak.

[Spurtacular]

There's no way to discuss anything with retarded goal post movers like you.

Get back to your ankle biting, freak.

My question is a direct response to your statement (and the topic you started). Once again, you retreat into your cuckoon. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

fuck you motherfucking cretins

https://media0.giphy.com/media/NUJZKPi2CpqpO/source.gif

[ChumpDumper]

Troglodyte Mode Activated

I'll ask you one question.

Do you consider yourself worth a response?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

I'll ask you one question.

Do you consider yourself worth a response?

Yes or no.

Make whatever lame point you want to make.

[DMX7]

Will Mexico be paying for the repairs to our "impregnable" wall?

[ChumpDumper]

Make whatever lame point you want to make.I'll take that as a no.

I agree.

Remember that.

[Spurtacular]

I'll take that as a no.

I agree.

Remember that.

This was a nice try at side stepping the fact that Snitch Factor banned you from replying to certain posters.

:lmao Remember that.

[ElNono]

What would be more efficient?

More/better monitoring/enforcement (ie: E-verify, cameras, drones, sensors, etc) and less onus in easily breakable physical barriers. I get it, none of the former are as tangible or visible as the latter, thus have less political appeal, but they’re way more effective at curbing both illegal crossings and visa overstays.

[ElNono]

It's not just about illegal immigration. The fact you know the stats on overstayed visas tells me that it's not the same issue as being undocumented.

Pretty sure the visa folks are not undocumented. The overstayed visa thing is the "But Chicago" angle for the left on this issue. If the bigger issue is overstayed visas, it doesn't mean undocumented border crossings isn't a big issue. In order to get a visa, you have to be documented. I am sure the roads have plenty unlicensed drivers, uninsured drivers.... all of these are separate issues. So no need to bring up documented illegals to counter measures to prevent undocumented ones.

Once their visa expires, they are, literally, undocumented immigrants. When it comes to immigration, ‘documented’ pertains to having valid documentation to be in the United States. While the reason written down for deportation might vary (ie: visa overstay), the process is identical.

[boutons_deux]

More/better monitoring/enforcement (ie: E-verify, cameras, drones, sensors, etc) and less onus in easily breakable physical barriers. I get it, none of the former are as tangible or visible as the latter, thus have less political appeal, but they’re way more effective at curbing both illegal crossings and visa overstays.

dubya/dickhead spent $5B with IIRC Boeing for electronic border wall, and it was a total failure (Boeing got to keep the $5B).

[ElNono]

And I should mention that if overstays would be 10% of illegal immigration, then I can see the ‘but Chicago’ moment, but visa overstays accounted for almost 50% of illegal immigrants a few years back (not sure what is it now).

[ElNono]

dubya/dickhead spent $5B with IIRC Boeing for electronic border wall, and it was a total failure (Boeing got to keep the $5B).

It’s a big border. I’m not familiar with what that covered, so I can’t comment on it.

[ChumpDumper]

This was a nice try at side stepping the fact that Snitch Factor banned you from replying to certain posters.

:lmao Remember that.He suggested, I agreed.

It's actually pretty great watching you pout about it every time I ignore you.

Get used to it.

Bye.

[Spurtacular]

He suggested, I agreed.

It's actually pretty great watching you pout about it every time I ignore you.



He shamed you. :lol

And I doubt you watched much. You surely put me on ignore because you have no self control.

[Spurtacular]

I ignore you.

Get used to it.

Bye.

:lol "Get used to it"
:lol Cos people pine for the board irritant.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What's yours?

What difference does it make? I get that you try to make most everything personal when talking about the news and current events but I have no interest.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

this whole "you get no pussy" shit is ridiculous. you can hate me all you'd like but i indeed get pussy and sleep next to a lovely lady nightly. i might not be boyfriend material because i don't want that label nor commitment but i do have a lady.

i get it though because it's the go-to for internet cut downs but it's simply not true what you spew. it's ok though; whatever gets you through the day...

Youre built like a 12 year old. I imagine when you show your calf tats and tramps stamp, panties moisten the world around. . . . :rolleyes

[boutons_deux]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/NUJZKPi2CpqpO/source.gif

[Chris]

What difference does it make? I get that you try to make most everything personal when talking about the news and current events but I have no interest.

oof nice non answer and pivot typical Liberal response though so only a C+ for me

[koriwhat]

Youre built like a 12 year old. I imagine when you show your calf tats and tramps stamp, panties moisten the world around. . . . :rolleyes

You're such an edgelord.

[DMC]

What difference does it make? I get that you try to make most everything personal when talking about the news and current events but I have no interest.

Not making it personal. If you think the wall is inefficient, it has to be compared to another method. What's the other method? If you're just talking just say so.

[DMC]

More/better monitoring/enforcement (ie: E-verify, cameras, drones, sensors, etc) and less onus in easily breakable physical barriers. I get it, none of the former are as tangible or visible as the latter, thus have less political appeal, but they’re way more effective at curbing both illegal crossings and visa overstays.

I think the cost would be similar.

[DMC]

Once their visa expires, they are, literally, undocumented immigrants. When it comes to immigration, ‘documented’ pertains to having valid documentation to be in the United States. While the reason written down for deportation might vary (ie: visa overstay), the process is identical.

Though those who violate visas are not legally documented any longer, it is recorded that they entered the country so their numbers can be known. Those who walk over undetected are simply lost to the system and cannot be accounted for. It's the difference between having someone overstay their welcome at your home and someone enter it illegally, without your knowledge that they did. Both could be benign but the latter was never legally cleared to enter in the 1st place.

[Blake]

Not making it personal. If you think the wall is inefficient, it has to be compared to another method. What's the other method? If you're just talking just say so.

Oh hey another DMC false dilemma sighting

[ElNono]

I think the cost would be similar.

It might cost more too, but we’re discussing efficiency or lack thereof.

[ElNono]

Though those who violate visas are not legally documented any longer, it is recorded that they entered the country so their numbers can be known. Those who walk over undetected are simply lost to the system and cannot be accounted for. It's the difference between having someone overstay their welcome at your home and someone enter it illegally, without your knowledge that they did. Both could be benign but the latter was never legally cleared to enter in the 1st place.

They can be accounted for when they apply for a job. Either with a fake id or otherwise. That’s why strict enforcement of e-verify is an important prong (doesn’t happen now).

[boutons_deux]

Even VRWC Cato the Koch Pimp

E‑Verify Errors Harmed 760,000 Legal Workers Since 2006

https://www.cato.org/blog/e-verify-errors-harmed-760000-legal-workers-2006 (https://www.cato.org/blog/e-verify-errors-harmed-760000-legal-workers-2006)

[boutons_deux]

'We were horrified': White House Halloween party had 'Build the Wall' indoctrination 'game' for kids (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/2/1896832/--We-were-horrified-White-House-Halloween-party-had-Build-the-Wall-indoctrination-game-for-kids)

“outside the speechwriter’s office and next to the office of digital strategy,” one activity, neither inspiring nor on-theme, stood out from the others:

Children were given “brick-colored paper cards and told to write their name with a marker and tape them to the wall.”

Said wall was pre-adorned with an all-caps, familiarly xenophobic chant of Trump supporters: “Build the Wall.”

“Horrified. We were horrified,” said a person who was there and requested anonymity to avoid professional retaliation.


1190653221997613057

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/2/1896832/--We-were-horrified-White-House-Halloween-party-had-Build-the-Wall-indoctrination-game-for-kids?detail=emaildkre

[Blake]

'We were horrified': White House Halloween party had 'Build the Wall' indoctrination 'game' for kids (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/2/1896832/--We-were-horrified-White-House-Halloween-party-had-Build-the-Wall-indoctrination-game-for-kids)

“outside the speechwriter’s office and next to the office of digital strategy,” one activity, neither inspiring nor on-theme, stood out from the others:

Children were given “brick-colored paper cards and told to write their name with a marker and tape them to the wall.”

Said wall was pre-adorned with an all-caps, familiarly xenophobic chant of Trump supporters: “Build the Wall.”

“Horrified. We were horrified,” said a person who was there and requested anonymity to avoid professional retaliation.


1190653221997613057

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/2/1896832/--We-were-horrified-White-House-Halloween-party-had-Build-the-Wall-indoctrination-game-for-kids?detail=emaildkre

I'm sure they got Mexican kids to build it

[boutons_deux]

why a recip saw?

An oxy torch would be quicker

btw, Harbor Freight sells really good recip saws

https://www.harborfreight.com/75-amp-heavy-duty-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-69067.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-amp-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-56250.html

[hater]

home depot id the shit ma negros

[Chucho]

why a recip saw?

An oxy torch would be quicker

btw, Harbor Freight sells really good recip saws

https://www.harborfreight.com/75-amp-heavy-duty-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-69067.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-amp-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-56250.html


Yeah...that totally doesn't make you seem more sociopathic and creepy. I'm certain many a woodland creature near your Granma's double wide have met their untimely demises at the hands of you and a Harbor Fright saw.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not making it personal. If you think the wall is inefficient, it has to be compared to another method. What's the other method? If you're just talking just say so.

You cannot think of a more sturdy fencing than cast iron rods?

How about reinforced concrete? It's not like it's hard to imagine. For security fencing what they are using is cheap crap.

[boutons_deux]

You cannot think of a more sturdy fencing than cast iron rods?

How about reinforced concrete? It's not like it's hard to imagine. For security fencing what they are using is cheap crap.

haven't you heard. there is a planet-wide, worksening shortage of sand for concrete. Sand is being stolen in some countries.

( and desert sand won't work because it has been wind-tumbled smooth )

[DMC]

They can be accounted for when they apply for a job. Either with a fake id or otherwise. That’s why strict enforcement of e-verify is an important prong (doesn’t happen now).

Right now there's no way to know how many illegals are in this country. Sure you can tell when they volunteer to be counted but otherwise you don't know.

[DMC]

You cannot think of a more sturdy fencing than cast iron rods?

How about reinforced concrete? It's not like it's hard to imagine. For security fencing what they are using is cheap crap.

Sure I can think of a more sturdy fencing if fencing is the answer. If it's just that the fence isn't sturdy enough I think that's a different conversation. It's not hard to break through brick walls either. Even rebar reinforced concrete can be broken through with a simple sledgehammer over time.

[DMC]

It might cost more too, but we’re discussing efficiency or lack thereof.

Well if it's not more viable as a means of preventing illegal crossings and it's at least as expensive, it can't be more efficient.

[DMC]

why a recip saw?

An oxy torch would be quicker

btw, Harbor Freight sells really good recip saws

https://www.harborfreight.com/75-amp-heavy-duty-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-69067.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-amp-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-56250.html

Sorry but power tools and Harbor Freight never should be used in the same sentence as "really good".

[DMC]

Oh hey another DMC false dilemma sighting

How is that a false dilemma? Efficiency is a rating, a rating has to have a standard.

[Chucho]

Jesus Christ I seem passionate about this...

[ElNono]

Well if it's not more viable as a means of preventing illegal crossings and it's at least as expensive, it can't be more efficient.

Well of course it’s viable and more efficient. By definition it can catch cases a wall never will.

The problem with the wall is that it has a low ceiling (pun intended). It’s basically a medieval solution to a much more complex problem against a well funded opponent. A wall is inherently expensive and inefficient, given the extent of the border, the maintenance cost and relatively high vulnerability.

[SpursforSix]

Just wait until they start using multiple drones to lift people over the wall. It's probably already happening.

[ElNono]

Right now there's no way to know how many illegals are in this country. Sure you can tell when they volunteer to be counted but otherwise you don't know.

There are ways to do fairly good approximations. These people don’t disappear into the underground. They use services. A good amount of them get a Tax ID and pay their taxes. Census count them (as a total of the population, but then you do know the legal/citizen count, so it’s fairly simple math).

[Blake]

How is that a false dilemma? Efficiency is a rating, a rating has to have a standard.

Just because something is structurally inefficient, it doesn't mean the only other solution is to make it structurally efficient. Believe it or not, there are other options.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sure I can think of a more sturdy fencing if fencing is the answer. If it's just that the fence isn't sturdy enough I think that's a different conversation. It's not hard to break through brick walls either. Even rebar reinforced concrete can be broken through with a simple sledgehammer over time.

Sure hours. There should be patrols along any fencing as well. As it is now, they can take a sawzall and wait for the last patrol to leave and be through in less than half an hour. Get two people working in tandem and its faster.

Reinforced pilings would take more that a sledgehammer if done right. You have to break away the concrete then cut out the rebar then do it again for every layer. More than enough time for a decent patrol time to come through.

$10B or whatever the pricetag is to this point is a waste of resources.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well of course it’s viable and more efficient. By definition it can catch cases a wall never will.

The problem with the wall is that it has a low ceiling (pun intended). It’s basically a medieval solution to a much more complex problem against a well funded opponent. A wall is inherently expensive and inefficient, given the extent of the border, the maintenance cost and relatively high vulnerability.

This is very true but they do make sense in certain areas for example densely populated areas. Building it along the 1300 mile border and patrolling it 24/365 is an asinine idea.

[DMC]

There are ways to do fairly good approximations. These people don’t disappear into the underground. They use services. A good amount of them get a Tax ID and pay their taxes. Census count them (as a total of the population, but then you do know the legal/citizen count, so it’s fairly simple math).

For numbers, sure, but not for individuals. For example, a known terrorist likely wouldn't come over on a visa. You'd not know if one crossed illegally at the border even if you could approximate the odds and about how many actual people may have crossed.

[DMC]

Jesus Christ I seem passionate about this...

The Passion of the Jesus Christ

[pgardn]

why a recip saw?

An oxy torch would be quicker

btw, Harbor Freight sells really good recip saws

https://www.harborfreight.com/75-amp-heavy-duty-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-69067.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/10-amp-variable-speed-reciprocating-saw-56250.html

I love those things.
There is something to be said for having the right tools. To saw almost anything. They are great for tight spaces.

[DMC]

Just because something is structurally inefficient, it doesn't mean the only other solution is to make it structurally efficient. Believe it or not, there are other options.

I never said that.

I said it has to be compared to another method. What other method of border control would you suggest?

[Blake]

I never said that.

I said it has to be compared to another method. What other method of border control would you suggest?

Oh right because "efficiency has a rating" could mean plenty of things besides structures. :rolleyes

I'm fine with border control the way it was before Trump made it a political talking point. I'd even be fine with throwing a few extra bucks at adding BP agents. Just stop wasting money on a stupid inefficient wall.

[koriwhat]

Oh right because "efficiency has a rating" could mean plenty of things besides structures. :rolleyes

I'm fine with border control the way it was before Trump made it a political talking point. I'd even be fine with throwing a few extra bucks at adding BP agents. Just stop wasting money on a stupid inefficient wall.

Lol wanting the inefficient BP keeping up the status quo because that was def working wonders prior. Don't lie cuck you want open borders.

[ElNono]

For numbers, sure, but not for individuals. For example, a known terrorist likely wouldn't come over on a visa. You'd not know if one crossed illegally at the border even if you could approximate the odds and about how many actual people may have crossed.

I agree with this, but I would counter it makes even more pressing we secure the border in the most efficient manner, instead applying politically expedient gimmicks which we already know have a high degree of vulnerability.

I mean, at least in some areas we already have a multi-layered system with in land checkpoints (which predate any wall), but even those, being locally static, can be planned for.

Ultimately, proactive intelligence work likely has the best return on investment when it comes to organized crime (and again, not a wall)

[DMC]

I agree with this, but I would counter it makes even more pressing we secure the border in the most efficient manner, instead applying politically expedient gimmicks which we already know have a high degree of vulnerability.

I mean, at least in some areas we already have a multi-layered system with in land checkpoints (which predate any wall), but even those, being locally static, can be planned for.

Ultimately, proactive intelligence work likely has the best return on investment when it comes to organized crime (and again, not a wall)

I would suggest manned towers along the walls and regular crisscrossing thermal imagine drone surveillance ops. Maybe some land mines and concertina wire on high chain link fences with auto rapid target acquisition mini guns.

[ElNono]

I would suggest manned towers along the walls and regular crisscrossing thermal imagine drone surveillance ops. Maybe some land mines and concertina wire on high chain link fences with auto rapid target acquisition mini guns.

Don’t forget seismic sensors. Tunnels are a thing.

[DMC]

Oh right because "efficiency has a rating" could mean plenty of things besides structures. :rolleyes

I'm fine with border control the way it was before Trump made it a political talking point. I'd even be fine with throwing a few extra bucks at adding BP agents. Just stop wasting money on a stupid inefficient wall.

I said that after you said my comment was a false dilemma.

How can something be deemed inefficient if there's no way to measure efficiency?

You keep offering up baseless objections and balk when called out. Think about your objection and avoid the logical fallacy accusations until you actually understand how they work.

[DMC]

Don’t forget seismic sensors. Tunnels are a thing.

Snipers as well. Build military bases along the border. If they cross between them surely they will be seen.

[ElNono]

BTW, Concertina wire is widely deployed at the border...

[ElNono]

Snipers as well. Build military bases along the border. If they cross between them surely they will be seen.

Cameras and Sensors are much more cost effective

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Impenetrable Wall Isn’t So Impenetrable | The Daily Show


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=VCkIva2L-B0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=VCkIva2L-B0)

[Blake]

Lol wanting the inefficient BP keeping up the status quo because that was def working wonders prior. Don't lie cuck you want open borders.

Don't lie you weren't scared of the border before Trump told you to be scared

[Blake]

I said that after you said my comment was a false dilemma.

How can something be deemed inefficient if there's no way to measure efficiency?

You keep offering up baseless objections and balk when called out. Think about your objection and avoid the logical fallacy accusations until you actually understand how they work.

inefficient

adjective
US /ˌɪn·ɪˈfɪʃ·ənt/

wasting time, money, energy, or other valuable possessions or qualities

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/inefficient


I'd like to see your definition of "efficiency rating"

[Chris]

Blake taking a break from laughing at all the idiots to provide a non-answer.

[Blake]

Chris taking a break from the James Woods Twitter feed to do that troll thingy

[Spurtacular]

Chris taking a break from the James Woods Twitter feed to do that troll thingy

How does James Woods trigger you, cuck?

[Chris]

How does James Woods trigger you, cuck?

He hates Chuck Woolery too :lol

[Blake]

How does James Woods trigger you, cuck?


He hates Chuck Woolery too :lol

Lol idiots

[DMC]

inefficient

adjective
US /ˌɪn·ɪˈfɪʃ·ənt/

wasting time, money, energy, or other valuable possessions or qualities

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/inefficient


I'd like to see your definition of "efficiency rating"

output/input x 100

Now you fill in the variables that don't include your opinions.

Or you could just say "ineffective" since that's probably what you meant anyhow.

[Blake]

Lol blather. No, I clearly mean the dictionary definition.

I'm waiting for your efficiency rating definition. Until then and since there's no building code for border walls, my opinion stands.