Don't look now, but Bert is...

[phxspurfan]

...averaging 16 points per game (4 threes made per game), on about 30 minutes played per game, with a 19 PER:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bertada01.html

:depressed:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bertada01/gamelog/2020

That's 20 points per 36 minutes. And double his average from his Spurs days, on only 8 more minutes per game.

[Slippy]

When he was on the spurs he was uncompetitive ?

He loved the doghouse

[GAustex]

Crater face refused to use him right.
Still his defense or lack thereof was a problem

[exstatic]

His DBPM is -3.0 and Washington’s record is 1-3

[mookie2001]

He could do that here until he gets benched for the playoffs.

[Degoat]

I Like Davis but regardless of how he does with the wizards, we saw how he was unplayable in the playoffs

[Genovaswitness]

wizards are fucking trash and so is bertans

[ChumpDumper]

How'd he do tonight?

[Dancelot]

How'd he do tonight?
Plus/minus -11. Side note Beal had a -41 tonight, how is that even possible?

[cool cat]

Bad player on a bad team just like Dewayne Dedmon when he was with the Hawks.

[ZeusWillJudge]

How'd he do tonight?


I didn't see the game, but did you see that box? Beal scored 30 for the Wiz, but the rest of the starters had 3,3,4, and 7. And Beal who put up 30 had a +/- of -41. I'm not a fan of the +/-, but that's just ugly.

Yeah, Bertans only had 8 tonight. He could've put up 20 and it wouldn't have helped that beatdown.




Plus/minus -11. Side note Beal had a -41 tonight, how is that even possible?

LOL. This is what happens when you walk away from the computer before hitting save. Yeah, a guy puts up 30 points and still is a -41? There's something you don't see every day.

[BatManu20]

Easier to do on a bad team, as always.

[sananspursfan21]

I love Davis but cmon. It’s the Wizards tbh

[sananspursfan21]

But he’s a former Spur that I can genuinely root for. Good on him if he somehow averages a good number and is a solid offensive piece for them. He worked hard, even if the playoffs weren’t good to him

[Down Under]

Bertans is a good rotation player. It made it hard to play him & Gay in the playoffs against Millsap at the 4.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I like Davis, he's a good guy, hope he plays well in his contract year and gets paid.

However, he's not improved much in his time in the NBA and seems unlikely to change. Apart from his elite shooting, he does nothing at even an average level. Sure, there are scenarios, in which he can be effective, e.g. in Houston, but he's not really much of a difference maker otherwise. He'll have good games but let's not make threads for each decent game he has on a losing team, like with J. Simmons, who put up a lot of empty stats on a bad Orlando team and is now out of the league, waived before his contract even expired.

[XDT76]

To me Bertans contribution on court is similar to mills. A player who could catch fire and scores lots of points but not much else. If the shots are not falling then they become non-useful players.

[heyheymymy]

Morris was a CIA pop op to dump bertans.

[tbdog]

Bad player on a bad team just like Dewayne Dedmon when he was with the Hawks.

lol Kings paying him.

[Bojo]

lol Kings paying him.

So nothing changed...

[RC_Drunkford]

lol Kings paying him.

They were also the reason why Spurs signed Bertans to 14 Million $/2 years instead of 20 Million $/ 4 years

[picnroll]

Bertans is built to be a good player on a great defensive team. He’d be great for the 76ers to pick up.

[r0drig0lac]

Bertans is built to be a good player on a great defensive team. He’d be great for the 76ers to pick up.

or raptors, or bucks...

[BillMc]

Davis is a hell of a shooter. It was worth the sacrifice to get Morris, but...

Guy went through 2 major knee injuries and lost a finger, and still makes the NBA. He ain't perfect but you gotta respect Bertans.

[Mugen]

:lol People trying to shit on Davis (unsurprisingly, it's the Suckers)...hard to be good defensively when you're platooned with defensive losers like Patty, Bryn, Derozan, Beli.....

[ChumpDumper]

:lol People trying to shit on Davis (unsurprisingly, it's the Suckers)...hard to be good defensively when you're platooned with defensive losers like Patty, Bryn, Derozan, Beli.....So everyone else has to be good defensively before Davis can be good defensively? OK.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Bertans is built to be a good player on a great defensive team. He’d be great for the 76ers to pick up.


That's a pretty good way of putting it. He's not rebounding for shit, and he's not having to defend, and his offensive production has been off the chart (for him at least). But his team is 1-4 and the only team they've beaten is 2-4.

I'd like to have his 3P production this year. But he hasn't turned into a Sixth Man candidate just because he's knocking down more than usual.

[ZeusWillJudge]

So everyone else has to be good defensively before Davis can be good defensively? OK.


That's not what he was saying, and you know it. He said that Bert would be a good addition to a team that plays good D.

On the Wizards, he doesn't have to worry about playing D. Or rebounding. There's not a lot of point in getting excited about the fact that he's hitting a lot of 3's. I wish we hadn't lost him, but he wouldn't have had the opportunity to play that way here.

[ChumpDumper]

That's not what he was saying, and you know it. He said that Bert would be a good addition to a team that plays good D.

On the Wizards, he doesn't have to worry about playing D. Or rebounding. There's not a lot of point in getting excited about the fact that he's hitting a lot of 3's. I wish we hadn't lost him, but he wouldn't have had the opportunity to play that way here.Well you have two games where he scored a whole lot -- the inevitable big game versus the Spurs and a 300+ point regulation game against Houston. The rest have been vintage Bertans.

I think he's just as likely to end up with an 8 point average again than maintain the 16 point average-- which is already 14 after one game.

[weebo]

Morris>>>>Bertans. They tried upgrading--who knew Morris would be a bitch.

[Seventyniner]

What we should be doing is comparing him to Morris. That's the trade the Spurs thought they had made, and 99% of the time the player doesn't renege on his verbal commitment.

[Dex]

Morris>>>>Bertans. They tried upgrading--who knew Morris would be a bitch.

This.

Spurs didn't intend to send Bertans off for nothing. Morris is the one who bitched out on the agreement.

At least Lyles has shown himself capable of putting in productive minutes doing things that no one expected of him...and things that Bertans was not good at doing. If Trey can actually start hitting shots, it will be an upgrade tbh.

[ElNono]

Not gonna look

[ChumpDumper]

It's surprising how close this emergency contingency signing is so close to being a better fit than either Bertans or Morris.

[Rosewood]

I don't understand the point of this thread?

We tried for an upgrade and the upgrade fucked us over. PATFO are not at fault here, so are you just being a whiny bitch to be a whiny bitch?

I don't get it.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't understand the point of this thread?

We tried for an upgrade and the upgrade fucked us over. PATFO are not at fault here, so are you just being a whiny bitch to be a whiny bitch?

I don't get it.This will be one of the main ST alternative timeline causes célèbres for a few seasons to come. Get used to it and get used to the defensiveness of those who bring him up every time his stat line looks good.

[duncan2k5]

If Davis never played for us, he would be a player we would have wanted... Many of the players we see on other teams and want on ours wouldn't do good under pop...

We have seen it many times in the past

[murpjf88]

His DBPM is -3.0 and Washington’s record is 1-3

What does defense have to do with today's NBA?

[spurraider21]

What does defense have to do with today's NBA?
even in today's NBA, the goal is to score more points than you allow

[DAF86]

even in today's NBA, the goal is to score more points than you allow

Well, seeing how Bertans' BPM is 1.5, he manages to do that quite well. Even on a shitty team like the Wizards.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Davis is a hell of a shooter. It was worse the sacrifice to get Morris, but...

Guy went through 2 major knee injuries and lost a finger, and still makes the NBA. He ain't perfect but you gotta respect Bertans.

I agree...and nice signature additions! :tu

[BillMc]

I agree...and nice signature additions! :tu

Thanks man!:bobo

[heyheymymy]

Feels like bertans was the upgrade to Bonner and now samanic is the upgrade to bertans.

Samanic is a pretty similar player to both and has the potential to become the best version of that role.

[phxspurfan]

and now samanic is the upgrade to bertans

uh...wut


One is averaging 20 points on like 5 threes a game, and one is a fucking sandwich.

[Chucho]

PATFO are fucking idiots to let this guy go for nothing just like Jon Simmons and Kyle Anderson and Corey Joseph and Paul George before him. All of them are showing PAFTO!

[MoSpur02]

Easier to do on a bad team, as always.

This. He's on a horrible Wizards team.

[DAF86]

Easier to do on a bad team, as always.

How so? If you are in a bad team, you tend to get less quality looks. For a space providing role player like Bertans that should be a great handicap, yet he's having a career year so far.

Why is that? Because Bertans can be more than just a spot up shooter. He's a lot more versatile than most folks gave him credit for here. Brooks realized this and is using him in more varied ways.