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Msirotic
11-06-2019, 09:58 PM
I’m a little bored but also tired of seeing terrible players getting significant playing time... who could we get that’s somewhat realistic? I was thinking Aaron Gordon, Covington or H. Barnes may be options. I think all three could play sf/pf at times reducing the minutes for Lyles and hopefully eliminating Belli... what do you guys think? Gordon is still young, athletic, maybe not realistic...

SpurPadre
11-06-2019, 10:07 PM
Spurs rarely trade during a season. One major indicator that it won't happen is when Pop starts making jokes and/or mocks the notion about trades within a couple of weeks of the deadline, which is one of his favorite shticks, tbh.

SAGirl
11-06-2019, 10:12 PM
Yea only if the season goes south big time will there be trades I think...

Msirotic
11-06-2019, 10:14 PM
Yah, you are probably right... I just find the current roster hard to watch at times. I’m sure they are banking on internal development. Murray mostly and maybe Lonnie or this years’ picks (probably 2 years away)

SpurPadre
11-06-2019, 10:19 PM
Yea only if the season goes south big time will there be trades I think...

It went south last year really. And aside from being held at gunpoint by Load Management to make them trade him, PATFO did absolutely nothing at the deadline to make the team better.

Msirotic
11-06-2019, 10:23 PM
And it’s hard to get excited about the young guys because Pop doesn’t play them... I used to get it, it was tough for Spurs rookies to get playing time, the roster was good, the team always went far... now, what is the risk of playing Lonnie or Samanic over Belli? I know they may not be ready but they need to be built up.

SAGirl
11-06-2019, 10:28 PM
It went south last year really. And aside from being held at gunpoint by Load Management to make them trade him, PATFO did absolutely nothing at the deadline to make the team better.
It didn’t go sufficiently south. They still made the playoffs despite Murray’s injury and Pop explained everything with it was demar’s first season. I am thinking south in a “can’t stop losing games we look like Sacramento south.” But you are right this team is very averse to gambling on trades and coming out at the wrong ends when they do. They got lucky trading for Kawhi but since then haven’t successfully made a trade to improve the team. They need to feel a lot more pressure than they have felt in improving the team and be less risk averse to a gamble on someone they like.

Msirotic
11-06-2019, 10:32 PM
To me Gordon seems like a Spurs type player, Orlando is going nowhere, they may want to get rid of that contract. Just not sure what we would have to give. It would generate excitement... I think I’m just looking for creative ways to make sure Belli doesn’t see the court for SA anymore!

BackHome
11-06-2019, 10:33 PM
Yeah I understood when you had guys like Timmy, Manu, and Parker we were always close to being able to go far post season. But this team is not near the talent level as they were in the past but yet Poop still treats the rookies like the past. If Poop continues coaching the way he is will be in either the eighth or ninth spot.

The shitty thing is if we suck this year the draft so far is looking really PG heavy and weak every where else. Either way something has to give this team is just going through the motions. It’s SAD.

r0drig0lac
11-06-2019, 10:33 PM
realist? try to get Jay Crowder and/or Solomon Hill, any combination that sends Marco to the other side is valid.

SpurPadre
11-06-2019, 10:36 PM
It didn’t go sufficiently south. They still made the playoffs despite Murray’s injury and Pop explained everything with it was demar’s first season. I am thinking south in a “can’t stop losing games we look like Sacramento south.” But you are right this team is very averse to gambling on trades and coming out at the wrong ends when they do. They got lucky trading for Kawhi but since then haven’t successfully made a trade to improve the team. They need to feel a lot more pressure than they have felt in improving the team and be less risk averse to a gamble on someone they like.

I get what you mean. What I find more frustrating than anything is when we are having a good season and still don't make trades to maximize their chances while other contenders manage to improve their roster from takers of their garbage. It's one of the reasons we've never repeated, tbh.

ZeusWillJudge
11-06-2019, 10:40 PM
There were some pretty credible rumors that the Spurs tried to deal Aldridge before the deadline a couple of years ago, when he was asking to be traded. That was pretty drastic, and unless someone is demanding a trade I wouldn't look for it to happen this year.

The Spurs can't just go buy a player and cut Beli. They have to send out salary to match. Who in their right mind would send a good player in exchange for Marco? Or Patty? Besides, PATFO aren't going to lose either of those guys because they believe that they are the only viable volume 3P threats.

Poeltl probably has some positive value because he's still on a cheap rookie deal. So maybe, maybe they could send him and Beli out for a roughly $10M player, but they would almost certainly have to add a pick. And cheap rookie contracts are like gold in this version of the NBA.

Bottom line: get used to seeing what you're seeing.

SpurPadre
11-06-2019, 10:50 PM
There were some pretty credible rumors that the Spurs tried to deal Aldridge before the deadline a couple of years ago, when he was asking to be traded. That was pretty drastic, and unless someone is demanding a trade I wouldn't look for it to happen this year.

The Spurs can't just go buy a player and cut Beli. They have to send out salary to match. Who in their right mind would send a good player in exchange for Marco? Or Patty? Besides, PATFO aren't going to lose either of those guys because they believe that they are the only viable volume 3P threats.

Poeltl probably has some positive value because he's still on a cheap rookie deal. So maybe, maybe they could send him and Beli out for a roughly $10M player, but they would almost certainly have to add a pick. And cheap rookie contracts are like gold in this version of the NBA.

Bottom line: get used to seeing what you're seeing.

LeBron has the luxury to make trades whenever he wants where teams are always willing to take his garbage. Must be nice...

KobesAchilles
11-06-2019, 11:14 PM
I don’t want a trade tbh. It’s time we got a high draft pick. We need one for our future bc it certainly isn’t DDR and LMA

Killakobe81
11-06-2019, 11:41 PM
I don’t want a trade tbh. It’s time we got a high draft pick. We need one for our future bc it certainly isn’t DDR and LMA

Pop and his system is to good to allow that.
And DDR and LMA be struggling but when they shake that off those three (plus Murray) will be to much for a high pick.

Millennial_Messiah
11-06-2019, 11:50 PM
I don’t want a trade tbh. It’s time we got a high draft pick. We need one for our future bc it certainly isn’t DDR and LMA

Draft pick? This isn't the NFL. Rarely do you get better quickly through the draft unless you get a premium player like Duncan, LeBron, Durant, AD, Kyrie etc and guys that good just aren't available every year. Look at the year Anthony Bennett was picked #1 overall and he's been out of the league for a long time. Mike Olowokandi :lol Kwame Brown :lmao ... DeAndre Ayton from last year is already having problems.

Some years are just complete duds for the draft and that's why teams tend to stay at the bottom longer in the NBA than in other sports leagues. With a couple notable exceptions to the rule (TD era Spurs), you achieve ultimate glory by buying, not building.

Payote75
11-07-2019, 12:34 AM
To me it's ridiculous that DD isn't being traded. He loses value as each day goes by. If he opts out and leave we have nothing. We need three point shooting and shooting in general. There is no reason to keep him on this team he doesn't fit the offense. I would take Gordon regardless but I'd even take Kuzma plus. Neal if washing ton wants out of Beal contract.

Dancelot
11-07-2019, 12:42 AM
I don’t want a trade tbh. It’s time we got a high draft pick. We need one for our future bc it certainly isn’t DDR and LMA
Pops not gonna play whatever draft pick it is anyway.

Chomag
11-07-2019, 12:50 AM
I don’t want a trade tbh. It’s time we got a high draft pick. We need one for our future bc it certainly isn’t DDR and LMA What would be the point though if Pop wouldn't even play that draft pick.

DPG21920
11-07-2019, 01:04 AM
There were some pretty credible rumors that the Spurs tried to deal Aldridge before the deadline a couple of years ago, when he was asking to be traded. That was pretty drastic, and unless someone is demanding a trade I wouldn't look for it to happen this year.

The Spurs can't just go buy a player and cut Beli. They have to send out salary to match. Who in their right mind would send a good player in exchange for Marco? Or Patty? Besides, PATFO aren't going to lose either of those guys because they believe that they are the only viable volume 3P threats.

Poeltl probably has some positive value because he's still on a cheap rookie deal. So maybe, maybe they could send him and Beli out for a roughly $10M player, but they would almost certainly have to add a pick. And cheap rookie contracts are like gold in this version of the NBA.

Bottom line: get used to seeing what you're seeing.

This is where Sa needs to get aggressive and possibly put picks on the table + expiring deals for the right player. Go for win now the best you can (more than they have been)

DPG21920
11-07-2019, 01:07 AM
To me it's ridiculous that DD isn't being traded. He loses value as each day goes by. If he opts out and leave we have nothing. We need three point shooting and shooting in general. There is no reason to keep him on this team he doesn't fit the offense. I would take Gordon regardless but I'd even take Kuzma plus. Neal if washing ton wants out of Beal contract.

That’s not true. While he’s flawed with this team build around him he’s still productive and on a relatively good deal. There would be plenty of teams interested if that time comes.

Plus, despite the fact we are used to WCF/Finals SA is still a “competitive” team so that carries weight with his numbers too.

Spurtacular
11-07-2019, 01:20 AM
My thought is that Gay is looking old now. It was going to happen. I thought it would happen last season.

Degoat
11-07-2019, 01:56 AM
Kings seem like a good trade partner after their bad start

San Antonio Slayer
11-07-2019, 04:56 AM
Steven Adams and Barnes for anyone except LMA and White

EasyMoney
11-07-2019, 05:50 AM
How about Jonathon Isaac? Up and coming 3 and d player. Orlando starting off slow they gotta do something

tbdog
11-07-2019, 06:13 AM
How about Jonathon Isaac? Up and coming 3 and d player. Orlando starting off slow they gotta do something

Magic love him. Gordon would be on the table though.

mo7888
11-07-2019, 07:53 AM
How about Jonathon Isaac? Up and coming 3 and d player. Orlando starting off slow they gotta do something

Gordon is available...Myles turner is available...and gallinari is available...

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 08:41 AM
If this years draft is weak and we already have a few prospects that may look for playing time next year, maybe we can package our first (protected) a player for a decent forward.

ZeusWillJudge
11-07-2019, 08:41 AM
Here's the flip side:

Nephew sat out last night against Milwaukee, for load management purposes. Montrezl Harrell and Lou Williams had 34 points each. (Plus a lot more - incredible stat lines for both.)

So how did the Clippers get those two ass-kickers? Houston traded both of them, plus Patrick Beverly, plus some other players and a pick - in exchange for Chris Paul. That was a "win now" trade if there ever was one. Houston got their asses handed to them in the playoffs anyway. CP3 is gone. And Harrell/Williams are capable of putting up 34 each in the same game. Remember when people here ranted about how great Houston's GM was? It's hard to get this shit right.

The Spurs' FO two biggest mistakes in the last few years were Pau and Patty. Those contracts took a lot of other options off the table. They made guys like Beli the "best available". (Not really - just the best the Spurs could afford.) The Nephew trade was forced on them, regardless of how you think they got to that point. Morris is a chickenshit that would have been a good player just the same. And the draft? Spurs fans would have had a fit if PATFO had drafted another redheaded white boy - not to mention the fact that Huerter is shooting something like .280 from beyond the arc this year.

Every team in the league is looking for strong, athletic forwards who can post up and shoot the 3. Nobody is going to have a fire sale on a good one.

Prime BEEF
11-07-2019, 08:49 AM
What would be the point though if Pop wouldn't even play that draft pick.

so true. He passed up on guys last year that are playing well now. However, if the spurs got those guys they wouldn’t even see the floor

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 08:50 AM
I agree with the no fire sale comment. That's why I think realistically, the person that mentioned Gordon, Turner and Gallinari as options is right on. Gordon has a big contract and under achieved so far, Turner they may not be able to resign now that they paid Sabonis and Gallinari is injury prone... it's not like I'm suggesting that we are getting Giannis!

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 08:53 AM
Yah most teams would have Lonnie playing already... even K. Johnson may play for some teams. He is 20 years old and has size...

Ibleedslvrnblk
11-07-2019, 08:55 AM
To be honest there is talent on this team, but the system and style sucks. This years NBA is anyone's for the taking. Lakers and Clips are beatable by many teams. I don't like DDR but if he is used differently then maybe something can happen. But pop does need to change something cause it's hard to watch at times.

TXstbobcat
11-07-2019, 09:13 AM
Pops not gonna play whatever draft pick it is anyway.

true. That pick will end up spending his first season in Austin.

ZeusWillJudge
11-07-2019, 09:28 AM
I agree with the no fire sale comment. That's why I think realistically, the person that mentioned Gordon, Turner and Gallinari as options is right on. Gordon has a big contract and under achieved so far, Turner they may not be able to resign now that they paid Sabonis and Gallinari is injury prone... it's not like I'm suggesting that we are getting Giannis!


I think you're trying to make serious suggestions, so I'm going to try not to make a smart-ass response. But do this for me: look over the Spurs' roster and find the roughly $20M in salaries that they would have to ship out, in order to bring Gordon. Then ask yourself, seriously, whether Orlando would actually let him go in exchange for those players. More importantly, WHY would they?

Turner is undersized, even for the 3, and the last couple of seasons he's been playing as a point/shooting guard. His minutes have been in steady decline, and he's got an $18M+ salary that would have to be matched. Not only that, but he's expiring, which means the Spurs would have to offer ATL something more appealing than that huge chunk of cap they're going to reclaim next season.

I'm not as big of a Gallo fan as some, but I can't deny the numbers. But the most meaningful number, IMO, is the $22.6M salary and the fact that the Spurs would have to renegotiate for his services next year. I can't deny that Gallinari would make this team better - but I'll leave it up to you to come up with a trade scenario that works and that there would be a prayer of getting OKC to accept.

XDT76
11-07-2019, 09:35 AM
I think you're trying to make serious suggestions, so I'm going to try not to make a smart-ass response. But do this for me: look over the Spurs' roster and find the roughly $20M in salaries that they would have to ship out, in order to bring Gordon. Then ask yourself, seriously, whether Orlando would actually let him go in exchange for those players. More importantly, WHY would they?

Turner is undersized, even for the 3, and the last couple of seasons he's been playing as a point/shooting guard. His minutes have been in steady decline, and he's got an $18M+ salary that would have to be matched. Not only that, but he's expiring, which means the Spurs would have to offer ATL something more appealing than that huge chunk of cap they're going to reclaim next season.

I'm not as big of a Gallo fan as some, but I can't deny the numbers. But the most meaningful number, IMO, is the $22.6M salary and the fact that the Spurs would have to renegotiate for his services next year. I can't deny that Gallinari would make this team better - but I'll leave it up to you to come up with a trade scenario that works and that there would be a prayer of getting OKC to accept.

Maybe one of team would take Belli and Mills in exchange the said player and a rookie? lol

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 09:54 AM
Fair question... the exact trade would be hard to predict as a third team involved is always an option. But something along the lines of Gay, a filler and a first for Gallinari or similar for Gordon. Or Gordon, filler and a first to SA for Derozan.

Maddog
11-07-2019, 01:46 PM
Draft pick? This isn't the NFL. Rarely do you get better quickly through the draft unless you get a premium player like Duncan, LeBron, Durant, AD, Kyrie etc and guys that good just aren't available every year. Look at the year Anthony Bennett was picked #1 overall and he's been out of the league for a long time. Mike Olowokandi :lol Kwame Brown :lmao ... DeAndre Ayton from last year is already having problems.

Some years are just complete duds for the draft and that's why teams tend to stay at the bottom longer in the NBA than in other sports leagues. With a couple notable exceptions to the rule (TD era Spurs), you achieve ultimate glory by buying, not building.


I think you're trying to make serious suggestions, so I'm going to try not to make a smart-ass response. But do this for me: look over the Spurs' roster and find the roughly $20M in salaries that they would have to ship out, in order to bring Gordon. Then ask yourself, seriously, whether Orlando would actually let him go in exchange for those players. More importantly, WHY would they?

Turner is undersized, even for the 3, and the last couple of seasons he's been playing as a point/shooting guard. His minutes have been in steady decline, and he's got an $18M+ salary that would have to be matched. Not only that, but he's expiring, which means the Spurs would have to offer ATL something more appealing than that huge chunk of cap they're going to reclaim next season.

I'm not as big of a Gallo fan as some, but I can't deny the numbers. But the most meaningful number, IMO, is the $22.6M salary and the fact that the Spurs would have to renegotiate for his services next year. I can't deny that Gallinari would make this team better - but I'll leave it up to you to come up with a trade scenario that works and that there would be a prayer of getting OKC to accept.

I'm afraid we are stuck with the current team. While draft picks are really are a hit or miss-I'd be reluctant to include in a trade just to trade. I don't see any of those listed previously as making this team better long term- maybe short term- but not to the point of being a contender. As pointed out above you could end up marginally improving the team and restricting long term.
I think you ride this out this year-and see where things are.

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 01:53 PM
I'm afraid we are stuck with the current team. While draft picks are really are a hit or miss-I'd be reluctant to include in a trade just to trade. I don't see any of those listed previously as making this team better long term- maybe short term- but not to the point of being a contender. As pointed out above you could end up marginally improving the team and restricting long term.
I think you ride this out this year-and see where things are.


I'm pretty sure that's what will happen. Mostly standing still and hoping for internal improvement... I'm sure it's the way to go, just being impatient lately!

Maddog
11-07-2019, 02:33 PM
I'm pretty sure that's what will happen. Mostly standing still and hoping for internal improvement... I'm sure it's the way to go, just being impatient lately!

I think fan frustration levels are high.
For the first time in over two decades it's hard to see definitively that this team could be really good or has an outside chance in the near future.
The closest the Spurs currently have in a player with potential star power is DJM, and he has as many negatives as positives.
It happens to all dynasties or whatever you wish to call the Spurs run. They almost avoided it...

RC_Drunkford
11-07-2019, 03:11 PM
Most pieces we'd like to get are in the 15-20 million range. That means trade DeRozan or Mills. Pop won't trade Mills and I doubt he'll trade DeRozan. That means Carroll, Lyles and Belinelli for 1 player. He won't do that either cause the team would lose depth. Just prepare for standing pat as usual.

mo7888
11-07-2019, 04:12 PM
I think you're trying to make serious suggestions, so I'm going to try not to make a smart-ass response. But do this for me: look over the Spurs' roster and find the roughly $20M in salaries that they would have to ship out, in order to bring Gordon. Then ask yourself, seriously, whether Orlando would actually let him go in exchange for those players. More importantly, WHY would they?

Turner is undersized, even for the 3, and the last couple of seasons he's been playing as a point/shooting guard. His minutes have been in steady decline, and he's got an $18M+ salary that would have to be matched. Not only that, but he's expiring, which means the Spurs would have to offer ATL something more appealing than that huge chunk of cap they're going to reclaim next season.

I'm not as big of a Gallo fan as some, but I can't deny the numbers. But the most meaningful number, IMO, is the $22.6M salary and the fact that the Spurs would have to renegotiate for his services next year. I can't deny that Gallinari would make this team better - but I'll leave it up to you to come up with a trade scenario that works and that there would be a prayer of getting OKC to accept.

Miles Turner (not Evan)- a package for him would center around LMA. Their FO and their coach still likes him. Would they do it? No idea, but that's where the package starts.

Gordon trade would only happen if Orlando is ready to move off of his money (and there are rumors floating around that they are ready). It's hard to make that one work honestly. It would have to be a larger trade featuring LMA or DDR and include Fournier coming back.

Gallinari- he has no long term value to OKC. A package with expiring contracts plus our 1st would most likely get it done.

mo7888
11-07-2019, 04:15 PM
Most pieces we'd like to get are in the 15-20 million range. That means trade DeRozan or Mills. Pop won't trade Mills and I doubt he'll trade DeRozan. That means Carroll, Lyles and Belinelli for 1 player. He won't do that either cause the team would lose depth. Just prepare for standing pat as usual.


That's always the most likely scenario with this FO...

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 04:34 PM
Miles Turner (not Evan)- a package for him would center around LMA. Their FO and their coach still likes him. Would they do it? No idea, but that's where the package starts.

Gordon trade would only happen if Orlando is ready to move off of his money (and there are rumors floating around that they are ready). It's hard to make that one work honestly. It would have to be a larger trade featuring LMA or DDR and include Fournier coming back.

Gallinari- he has no long term value to OKC. A package with expiring contracts plus our 1st would most likely get it done.
That's probably all on point. Gordon makes over 19 millions this year, I think he has 2 years left after on his contract and so far he is a averaging just 13 points per game on plenty of minutes but for the Spurs, he would fill a need and gets rebounds, he is just 24 years old.

Gallinari I would think would cost us less and I don't value our first round pick this year very highly (I don't think that player would play much anytime soon...) more of a low risk/ low excitement move as he is 31 years old but is a better shooter.

Miles Turner, I haven't watched him as much and he is a bigger guy, so as you mentioned, most likely LaMarcus would be involved. Maybe that trade would allow the Spurs to be a much faster team...

We will probably hold still, but a move involving DD for Gordon and Aldridge for Turner would make the Spurs young, fast and exciting...

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 04:35 PM
That's probably all on point. Gordon makes over 19 millions this year, I think he has 2 years left after on his contract and so far he is a averaging just 13 points per game on plenty of minutes but for the Spurs, he would fill a need and gets rebounds, he is just 24 years old.

Gallinari I would think would cost us less and I don't value our first round pick this year very highly (I don't think that player would play much anytime soon...) more of a low risk/ low excitement move as he is 31 years old but is a better shooter.

Miles Turner, I haven't watched him as much and he is a bigger guy, so as you mentioned, most likely LaMarcus would be involved. Maybe that trade would allow the Spurs to be a much faster team...

We will probably hold still, but a move involving DD for Gordon and Aldridge for Turner would make the Spurs young, fast and exciting...

ZeusWillJudge
11-07-2019, 05:34 PM
Miles Turner (not Evan)- a package for him would center around LMA. Their FO and their coach still likes him. Would they do it? No idea, but that's where the package starts.

Gordon trade would only happen if Orlando is ready to move off of his money (and there are rumors floating around that they are ready). It's hard to make that one work honestly. It would have to be a larger trade featuring LMA or DDR and include Fournier coming back.

Gallinari- he has no long term value to OKC. A package with expiring contracts plus our 1st would most likely get it done.


What the fuck are you talking about with the "Myles Turner" bullshit? Myles Turner is a 6'11" center who occasionally plays a nominal PF role (but rarely ever). The OP wasn't talking about Myles Fucking Turner in a thread about trading for a forward. If he was, the whole thread is just too stupid for words. Aldridge's salary is $8M more than Myles Turner, too, so they would have to make up that gap with a player or two that the Spurs have no roster space for.

Everything else held equal, the last team OKC would choose to make better is the Spurs. It's hard to predict what they're thinking, since they obviously went into blow-it-up mode. But they're in the business of building for the future. You're saying that they would trade Gallo for a pick that's probably going to be in the 17-20 range (unless the wheels finally come all the way off the Spurs, which will only be if they decide to rebuild.) They can get that anywhere. Anywhere. There's absolutely zero reason why it would wind up being the Spurs.

But of the three, you're willing to admit that the Gordon trade would be problematic? NONE of them are going to happen. NONE of them could happen. And now you have the OP quoting you, because you gave some daylight to his thread proposals. I haven't squashed any mortals like bugs this whole week - don't be the first.
Stop it... just stop it.

Degoat
11-07-2019, 07:11 PM
Spurs will never trade during the season but what about Demar Derozan & Lonnie walker for Harrison Barnes and Bogdan Bogdanovich?? Demar would be an upgrade over Barnes for the kings plus they get a potentially scary ass back court with fox/walker.... and I think Barnes and Bogdan would fit well with the spurs

mo7888
11-07-2019, 08:19 PM
What the fuck are you talking about with the "Myles Turner" bullshit? Myles Turner is a 6'11" center who occasionally plays a nominal PF role (but rarely ever). The OP wasn't talking about Myles Fucking Turner in a thread about trading for a forward. If he was, the whole thread is just too stupid for words. Aldridge's salary is $8M more than Myles Turner, too, so they would have to make up that gap with a player or two that the Spurs have no roster space for.

Everything else held equal, the last team OKC would choose to make better is the Spurs. It's hard to predict what they're thinking, since they obviously went into blow-it-up mode. But they're in the business of building for the future. You're saying that they would trade Gallo for a pick that's probably going to be in the 17-20 range (unless the wheels finally come all the way off the Spurs, which will only be if they decide to rebuild.) They can get that anywhere. Anywhere. There's absolutely zero reason why it would wind up being the Spurs.

But of the three, you're willing to admit that the Gordon trade would be problematic? NONE of them are going to happen. NONE of them could happen. And now you have the OP quoting you, because you gave some daylight to his thread proposals. I haven't squashed any mortals like bugs this whole week - don't be the first.
Stop it... just stop it.

If you'd pay attention just a little bit you'd realize the OP never mentioned anyone named Turner. I mentioned it in the context of who's on the market out there now. As for the trade, taking back another player isn't an issue when we can easily cut Metu or send him out in the trade.

As for okc, they wouldn't do the trade to help is out, they'd do it to help themselves if they don't have a better offer on the table.

I know you like to smell you're on brand but just go fuck off with your low rent take and weak ass bravado bitch....

GAustex
11-07-2019, 08:33 PM
Miles Turner (not Evan)- a package for him would center around LMA. Their FO and their coach still likes him. Would they do it? No idea, but that's where the package starts.

Gordon trade would only happen if Orlando is ready to move off of his money (and there are rumors floating around that they are ready). It's hard to make that one work honestly. It would have to be a larger trade featuring LMA or DDR and include Fournier coming back.

Gallinari- he has no long term value to OKC. A package with expiring contracts plus our 1st would most likely get it done.
I was wondering how Evan Turner got into the discussion. A nice player but not someone to trade for.

Msirotic
11-07-2019, 09:40 PM
Well Galli on the cheap would fit this team well if he plays often like he does now... 14 points in 14 minutes at the half, 3/4 for 3. 6 or 7 free throw attempts. He certainly stretches the floor.

CGD
11-07-2019, 10:57 PM
Most pieces we'd like to get are in the 15-20 million range. That means trade DeRozan or Mills. Pop won't trade Mills and I doubt he'll trade DeRozan. That means Carroll, Lyles and Belinelli for 1 player. He won't do that either cause the team would lose depth. Just prepare for standing pat as usual.

Well there is Rudy’s 15M too, but can’t be moved quite yet. Rudy+Belli gets you 20M.

CGD
11-07-2019, 11:08 PM
Gordon is available...Myles turner is available...and gallinari is available...

Miles Turner + DJ pick and roll action would be something to fun to watch. They’d be equally fun on D.

Indy needs to do something. There payroll situation is bizarre.

mo7888
11-08-2019, 09:18 AM
Miles Turner + DJ pick and roll action would be something to fun to watch. They’d be equally fun on D.

Indy needs to do something. There payroll situation is bizarre.

And their GM has a history with LMA. It's a deal that could get done if we pursued it. I also think Turner's willingness to shoot the 3 would do wonders for our spacing and make DDR more effective.