US-Backed Coup In Bolivia Forces President Evo Morales To Resign Under Threats Of Violence

[TheGreatYacht]

https://youtu.be/d-iFtxE7NTg




The EVIL empire strikes again. The United States of America, a nation of thieves and murderers doing what they do best. Toppling sovereign states and governments. And people wonder why we have a mass migration of refugees at the border.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bolivia Coup Explained

https://youtu.be/zeNNgCeCndc

[Chumpette]

There's no such thing as a deep state. This is just a conspiracy theory.

[Winehole23]

Nuanced take from Bolivia's former UN Ambassador under Evo Morales. The opposition to Morales is apparently not exclusively right wing.

https://systemicalternatives.org/2019/11/11/what-happened-in-bolivia-was-there-a-coup/amp/

[Spurtacular]

Besides boring blakehole, Chumpettes taking a pass. Brown people only matter when it's for their purposes.

[ChumpDumper]

Besides boring blakehole, Chumpettes taking a pass. Brown people only matter when it's for their purposes.What's your take, derp?

I'll mark you down as "present" until someone tells you what to think.

[Spurtacular]

What's your take, derp?

I'll mark you down as "present" until someone tells you what to think.

CIA involvement is quite likely. What is your take? Present?

[ChumpDumper]

CIA involvement is quite likely.What is your evidence for that?

[ChumpDumper]

My take is he probably should've paid attention to the referendum on term limits.

The election results look pretty sketchy as well.

[Spurtacular]

My take is he probably should've paid attention to the referendum on term limits.

The election results look pretty sketchy as well.

Tell us about the referendum on term limits.

[Spurtacular]

What is your evidence for that?

Post 1 and 2. You didn't watch the videos, did you?

[Spurtacular]

My take is he probably should've paid attention to the referendum on term limits.

The election results look pretty sketchy as well.

The guy winning by ten percentage points is pretty sketchy, huh?

[ChumpDumper]

Tell us about the referendum on term limits.Oh shit. You didn't even know about that?

:lmao

But CIA! That's more likely than the thing I've never even heard of.

[ChumpDumper]

The guy winning by ten percentage points is pretty sketchy, huh?The ten percentage points result looks very sketchy tbh.

Tell me your CIA theory.

[Spurtacular]

Oh shit. You didn't even know about that?

:lmao

But CIA! That's more likely than the thing I've never even heard of.

Use your words, Chump. Stop looking for an easy out. Tell us what it is and what it's relevance is.

[Spurtacular]

The ten percentage points result looks very sketchy tbh.

Tell me your CIA theory.

No specific "theory". I just know about their interests and how they operate.

[Spurtacular]

The ten percentage points result looks very sketchy tbh.

How so?

[ChumpDumper]

Use your words, Chump. Stop looking for an easy out. Tell us what it is and what it's relevance is.The referendum had a result against extending term limits. It's relevant because Bolivians are in favor of term limits as laid out in the 2009 constitution.

What is your CIA theory?

[Winehole23]

My take is he probably should've paid attention to the referendum on term limits.

The election results look pretty sketchy as well.Failing to groom a successor, then challenging term limits as his term was expiring doesn't look good either. If a political movement depends on one one guy it isn't a movement.

[ChumpDumper]

No specific "theory". I just know about their interests and how they operate.What are their interests in Bolivia? How do they operate in Bolivia?

[Spurtacular]

:lol Chump just ignoring Pompeo rabble rousing.
:lol Pompeo good now.

[Blake]

Bolivia Coup Explained

https://youtu.be/zeNNgCeCndc

That has to be a wig

[Spurtacular]

What are their interests in Bolivia? How do they operate in Bolivia?

Chump wants to be spoon fed whatever comes in front of his face. Par.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chump just ignoring Pompeo rabble rousing.
:lol Pompeo good now.Trump's appointee bad?

Explain.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump wants to be spoon fed whatever comes in front of his face. Par.Derp folds.

[Spurtacular]

The referendum had a result against extending term limits. It's relevant because Bolivians are in favor of term limits as laid out in the 2009 constitution.


So, he legally changed the law and you're using that as an excuse for a coup huh.

[Spurtacular]

Derp folds.

Not at all. I'm not a witness and you're not a lawyer. We're not going to play your stupid game is all.

[Winehole23]

So, he legally changed the law and you're using that as an excuse for a coup huh.What's your theory?

[Spurtacular]

Trump's appointee bad?

Explain.

Am I supposed to think that everyone that Trump appoints is a good person?

[ChumpDumper]

So, he legally changed the law and you're using that as an excuse for a coup huh.You might want to look up the results of that referendum, derp.

[AaronY]

Cool to see all the same guys who are experts on the "deep state", the whistle blower guy, and constitutional impeachment law are also experts on Bolivian politics

[ChumpDumper]

Am I supposed to think that everyone that Trump appoints is a good person?You're saying Trump's appointee is bad?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

What's your theory?

I'm just learning about this stuff with a lot of the rest of ya'll. It looks like a lot of bull shit going down. US apparently doesn't want the legal president.

[Spurtacular]

You might want to look up the results of that referendum, derp.

It's your point. You might want to explain yourself better if you want your point to have relevance.

[ChumpDumper]

Cool to see all the same guys who are experts on the "deep state", the whistle blower guy, and constitutional impeachment law are also experts on Bolivian politics:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Cool to see all the same guys who are experts on the "deep state", the whistle blower guy, and constitutional impeachment law are also experts on Bolivian politics

You're so woke, obviously Y.

[ChumpDumper]

It's your point. You might want to explain yourself better if you want your point to have relevance.No need. You've proved you didn't even know it was a thing that happened.

My point is relevant even though you have no idea what is being discussed.

[Spurtacular]

No need.

There never is a need for you to clarify your BS. It's better to pretend you're on solid ground.

[Winehole23]

I'm just learning about this stuff with a lot of the rest of ya'll. It looks like a lot of bull shit going down. US apparently doesn't want the legal president.Well, duh, he's a socialist and he wanted to nationalize the lithium biz.

Trump may rail against the deep state, but he's not railing against this. He loves it.

[ChumpDumper]

There never is a need for you to clarify your BS. It's better to pretend you're on solid ground.I am on solid ground. Your begging me to spoon feed you changes nothing.

You just red-assed your ignorance on yet another subject and now you're lashing out.

lol derp

[Spurtacular]

Well, duh, he's a socialist and he wanted to nationalize the lithium biz.


And it's quite possible that US assets don't want the lithium biz nationalized. This can't be so in Chump's gumdrop world though.

[Spurtacular]

I am on solid ground. Your begging me to spoon feed you changes nothing.



No spoon feeding required. Tell us about how the referendum justifies the bull shit or you have nothing is all.

[Spurtacular]

Blake lurking. Get on with your predictable snipe, you stupid fucking cuck.

[ChumpDumper]

And it's quite possible that US assets don't want the lithium biz nationalized. This can't be so in Chump's gumdrop world though.So you're in favor of that nationalization?

:lmao gumdrop derp

[Blake]

Blake lurking. Get on with your predictable snipe, you stupid fucking cuck.

Derp angry

[Winehole23]

And it's quite possible that US assets don't want the lithium biz nationalized. This can't be so in Chump's gumdrop world though.And Trump loves it. So does Elon Musk.

[ChumpDumper]

Blake lurking. Get on with your predictable snipe, you stupid fucking cuck.:lmao paranoid derp

We're just supposed take your word Trump's CIA overthrew this government?

OK.

[Spurtacular]

Blake lurking. Get on with your predictable snipe, you stupid fucking cuck.


Derp angry

:lmao Called it.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao paranoid derp

We're just supposed take your word Trump's CIA overthrew this government?

OK.

Show me where I said that the the CIA overthrew this government.

[Spurtacular]

And Trump loves it. So does Elon Musk.

Possibly.

[ChumpDumper]

Show me where I said that the the CIA overthrew this government.So the CIA didn't overthrow this government.

I agree.

[Spurtacular]

So the CIA didn't overthrow this government.

I agree.

Nobody doubts that that's your preset.

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody doubts that that's your preset.Do you think the CIA overthrew this government?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

:lmao Called it.

There's not much more to do here but just laugh at you being your usual retarded self, derp.

[TheGreatYacht]

Leaked Audio Recordings Implicate Cruz, Menendez And Rubio In Bolivia Coup & Veteran's Day Reality

https://youtu.be/NppIIbdhobo

[Spurtacular]

Do you think the CIA overthrew this government?

Yes or no.

I would have to research it much more to know their precise level of involvement.

:lmao No surprise you're here sperm shielding though. Pretty standard stuff.

[Spurtacular]

There's not much more to do here but just laugh at you being your usual retarded self, derp.

I laugh at you every day for being your cuckold self, blake.

:lmao You powerless twat.

[ChumpDumper]

I would have to research it much more to know their precise level of involvement.

:lmao No surprise you're here sperm shielding though. Pretty standard stuff.You're the one accusing Trump of overthrowing a foreign government.

[Spurtacular]

You're the one accusing Trump of overthrowing a foreign government.

Maybe you should really look into that. You might have something real to impeach him for.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe you should really look into that. You might have something real to impeach him for.It's your claim, not mine.

[Spurtacular]

It's your claim, not mine.

I never claimed Trump had any involvement, liar.

[ChumpDumper]

I never claimed Trump had any involvement, liar.So your claim is Trump has no control over the CIA and they can overthrow governments and there's nothing he can do about it?

:lmao

Which is it?

[Spurtacular]

So your claim is Trump has no control over the CIA and they can overthrow governments and there's nothing he can do about it?

:lmao

Which is it?

I'll change the word involvement to I never said he was implicated in any wrong doing. I would guess there's some neglect there, as there has been at a minimum by all of these modern predecessors.

[Blake]

I laugh at you every day for being your cuckold self, blake.

:lmao You powerless twat.

No, you're angry every day. My rent has been free for over a year now.

[Spurtacular]

Delusional Blake.

[Blake]

Denial derp

[ChumpDumper]

I'll change the word involvement to I never said he was implicated in any wrong doing. I would guess there's some neglect there, as there has been at a minimum by all of these modern predecessors.:lmao backflips

[Spurtacular]

:lmao backflips

You would rather I not fine-tune my argumentation? Looks like you got yourself a tiny w, I guess. You love those; they're all you can get. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

You would rather I not fine-tune my argumentation? Looks like you got yourself a tiny w, I guess. You love those; they're all you can get. :lolEvery time you try to invoke your deep state mantra you're saying Trump is an impotent cuckold who can't do anything about it.

It's adorable.

[Spurtacular]

Every time you try to invoke your deep state mantra you're saying Trump is an impotent cuckold who can't do anything about it.

It's adorable.

That's not what I'm saying. I am not privy to those inner workings, so it's pretty much guess work. I would say that the proper oversight he could be giving may not be fully performed because he is too busy battling the establishment on trumped-up impeachment charges. So, snowflakes like you are ultimately enabling American malfeasance. Of course in your case you outright sperm shield for the perps, so....

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

That's not what I'm saying. I am not privy to those inner workings, so it's pretty much guess work. I would say that the proper oversight he could be giving may not be performed because he is too busy battling the establishment on trumped-up impeachment charges. So, snowflakes like you are ultimately enabling American malfeasance. Of course in your case you outright sperm shield for the perps, so....

:lmao:lmao big words and backflips

[Spurtacular]

:lmao big words and backflips

:lmao Triggered by any rhetoric that doesn't target Trump.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Triggered by any rhetoric that doesn't target Trump.:lmao you're triggering laughter with your blackflips and big words

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Triggered by any rhetoric that doesn't target Trump.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Grayzone's Anya Parampil debunks Bolivian coup myths in Al Jazeera rant

https://youtu.be/dCY_ReFRT8o

[Winehole23]

If it wasn't for YouTube, TGY wouldn't know what to think about anything.

[TheGreatYacht]

If it wasn't for YouTube, TGY wouldn't know what to think about anything.

The world of politics is like a puzzle. You gotta listen to all sides and come up with your own conclusions. Most people are just a reflection of years of brainwashing by corporate media and bs lies and half-truths that we're told in history books.

Imagine a world where government and news didn't lie. Perhaps there wouldn't be any flat earthers and moon landing deniers.

[Winehole23]

Lol, you don't listen to all sides. Somebody put the puzzle together for you and you run with that.

Your penchant for straight spamming gives the game away, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol, you don't listen to all sides. Somebody put the puzzle together for you and you run with that.

Your penchant for straight spamming gives the game away, tbh.

Most of the normies on the left and right have the sheep herd mentality. They want their own echo chambers. The older I get, the less I believe in the left vs right bullshit paradigm.

[boutons_deux]

USA will fuck up any country and keep it fucked up if it serves USA's financial interests.

[Winehole23]

Most of the normies on the left and right have the sheep herd mentality. They want their own echo chambers. The older I get, the less I believe in the left vs right bullshit paradigm.You fell into an alt-right YT wormhole and call yourself an independent thinker for doing so.

Don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back!

[TheGreatYacht]

You fell into an alt-right YT wormhole and call yourself an independent thinker for doing so.

Don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back!

Alt-right :lol

I'm an agnostic-atheist. I'm not a white nationalist. I'm mexican. That's far from being an alt-right.

[Winehole23]

What a coincidence, Nathan89 also claims hispanic heritage and uses it as a shield against objectively racist posting.

[Winehole23]

I know, I know, you just like groypers because they hate immigrants and are sly about being anti-semitic.

[Blake]

You fell into an alt-right YT wormhole and call yourself an independent thinker for doing so.

Don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back!

Lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Who's behind the Bolivia coup? With Max Blumenthal, Aaron Maté, Ben Norton

https://youtu.be/fbsKi-qibNA

[diego]

Im not closely familiar with the situation in Bolivia but I did get a comment from a friend who works for a European solar infrastructure company, told me he was in a meeting in China recently and an exec mentioned they had already signed a deal to exploit bolivian lithium in a deal with/for Toyota.


Evo, extending his stay in power aside, had quietly been a success- he remade the Constitution and integrated indigenous people (though apparently he favors some and part of the opposition comes from there), he grew the economy at 6-8%, nationalized resources and grew national industry. I think I heard in the last 100 years he's the only bolivian president to finish a term let alone multiple times. Besides a lack of credible evidence the elections were rigged, he offered to repeat them and still wasn't due to start the next term, this is a coup the only question is who is behind it.

[Winehole23]

When the military asks the president to resign and his successors are kidnapped or have their houses firebombed and ransacked by fascist paramilitary thugs, it's a coup.

[Winehole23]

Añez declaring herself President without the required Senate vote doesn't look great for democracy either.

[TheGreatYacht]

Urgent update on the coup in Bolivia from Anya Parampil

https://youtu.be/R5ZPL0MCxUQ

[diego]

When the military asks the president to resign and his successors are kidnapped or have their houses firebombed and ransacked by fascist paramilitary thugs, it's a coup.

Oas and Trump administration disagree, funny how the champions of democracy only champion their friends

[Winehole23]

Oas and Trump administration disagree, funny how the champions of democracy only champion their friendsPutting people before corporate profits sets a bad example for other democracies, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Putting people before corporate profits sets a bad example for other democracies, tbh.

Repugs, unlimited self-serving, willful ignorance, say America is not a democracy, but a Republic.

America is no longer an example of democracy, but of predatory, avaricious, inhumane, destructive Capitalism.

[Winehole23]

sounds like a sweetheart, gives a clue to what Christian nationalists in Bolivia are agitating for:

1194493423270744064

[hater]

My take is he probably should've paid attention to the referendum on term limits.

The election results look pretty sketchy as well.

agreed

but still he was legally elected president until 2020 so Military telling him to quit = coup

[hater]

So, he legally changed the law and you're using that as an excuse for a coup huh.

you are both right. it was a coup but also he went against the will of the people

[Spurtacular]

you are both right. it was a coup but also he went against the will of the people

I don't know all the who's, wherefore, whys and hows. I just saw that the law was legally changed; Chump acting like that's a coup; it's not.

[hater]

The Grayzone's Anya Parampil debunks Bolivian coup myths in Al Jazeera rant

https://youtu.be/dCY_ReFRT8o

cant disagree with most of it but Evos followers also went bezerk and started destroying and burning citizens houses in regenge and still do now. they are not 100% peaceful demonstrators not even close

also venezuelan and cuban guerrillas are deep in evos base

[Spurtacular]

This is why our govt. shouldn't be in the business of crony international welfare.

[hater]

Im not closely familiar with the situation in Bolivia but I did get a comment from a friend who works for a European solar infrastructure company, told me he was in a meeting in China recently and an exec mentioned they had already signed a deal to exploit bolivian lithium in a deal with/for Toyota.


Evo, extending his stay in power aside, had quietly been a success- he remade the Constitution and integrated indigenous people (though apparently he favors some and part of the opposition comes from there), he grew the economy at 6-8%, nationalized resources and grew national industry. I think I heard in the last 100 years he's the only bolivian president to finish a term let alone multiple times. Besides a lack of credible evidence the elections were rigged, he offered to repeat them and still wasn't due to start the next term, this is a coup the only question is who is behind it.

there is no 1 group behind it but a number of players and also a sequence of unfortunate events. most bolivians were fed up with him and he should have never run a fourth term. nobody knows how rigged the elections were but there was definitely shady stuff to warrant new elections. but yes in the end it was a military coup

the main players were as I said most of bolivians, their mistake is to choose right wing evangelical fundamentalists as their opposition leaders. the US was complicit as the audio leaks show they have hated evo for 14 years and have been plotting against him especially with DEA painting him as a drug dealer

oh and I do believe the lithum was also a key player here. any bolivian that takes leadership and is a good US puppet is bound to make millions upon millions

thats the difference between an Evo government vs a US puppet government. Evo was like Robin Hood and would spread the wealth. The new US puppet will let his people starve and take most of the cut

[ElNono]

Not defending it, but Evo was asking for it, tbh...

[Spurtacular]

Not defending it, but Evo was asking for it, tbh...

Asking for what?

[ElNono]

Asking for what?

To get kicked out... he was elected in 2005, IIRC, and Bolivia had a 2 term max limit for president... he's been doing all sorts of shit to remain in power, eventually this shit was going to hit the fan...

[hater]

To get kicked out... he was elected in 2005, IIRC, and Bolivia had a 2 term max limit for president... he's been doing all sorts of shit to remain in power, eventually this shit was going to hit the fan...

sure he should have gone like Putin and allowed someone else to run for a while but if he did that USA would have taken him out in a millisecond. he knew he had to make the most of it in 1 shot and now the recent events prove it

bolivia lowered its poverty and the eliminated non-literacy. gdp through the roof and one of the best economic growth in latin america

good luck having a US puppet keep that up.

[hater]

Evo was basically the Maradona of 3rd world shithole presidents. Not a perfect individual by amlong shot but always competes for a ship and practically irreplaceable

good luck having that nazi self proclaimed Juana Guaido carry the torch for him :lmao

[pgardn]

sure he should have gone like Putin and allowed someone else to run for a while but if he did that USA would have taken him out in a millisecond. he knew he had to make the most of it in 1 shot and now the recent events prove it

bolivia lowered its poverty and the eliminated non-literacy. gdp through the roof and one of the best economic growth in latin america

good luck having a US puppet keep that up.

There ya go.
Dictator dream boy posts yet again.
Putin has also controlled Russia for over 20 yrs because the US might throw him out...

[hater]

one more similarity to Maradona is that Evo is basically a living God to his followers which are millions of indigenous bolivians. he is the first indigenous president ever. had something happened to him on his escape to Mexico... the rivers of blood would have run all the way to Tierra de Fuego

it was a miracle he made it safe to Mexico despite all US machinations to get him.

his people are currently unconsolable wondering the cities withoit their living god

good luck telling these people to go home and sleep it off :lol not gonna happen

[ChumpDumper]

one more similarity to Maradona is that Evo is basically a living God to his followers which are millions of indigenous bolivians. he is the first indigenous president ever. had something happened to him on his escape to Mexico... the rivers of blood would have run all the way to Tierra de Fuego

it was a miracle he made it safe to Mexico despite all US machinations to get him.

his people are currently unconsolable wondering the cities withoit their living god

good luck telling these people to go home and sleep it off :lol not gonna happenWell those people are fucking stupid.

[hater]

Well those people are fucking stupid.

you can call them stupid but these people were basically slaves just a few decades ago. most of them couldnt even read a word and would barely have anything to eat not to memtion were considered more like animals than people by elites. Evo changed all that

Mandela is a good example. I guess Mandela followers were fucking stupid too by your logic

[ChumpDumper]

you can call them stupid but these people were basically slaves just a few decades ago. Mandela is a good example. I guess
Mandela followers were fucking stupid tooNo, that's a horrible example.

Mandela served one term and stepped down.

Your comparison is stupid.

[Spurtacular]

To get kicked out... he was elected in 2005, IIRC, and Bolivia had a 2 term max limit for president... he's been doing all sorts of shit to remain in power, eventually this shit was going to hit the fan...

He was asking for the law to be followed. That's obviously too much for you.

[hater]

No, that's a horrible example.

Mandela served one term and stepped down.

Your comparison is stupid.

you can call it stupid but Mandela followers believed he was a living god almost as much as Evo followers regardless of terms. and thats a fact

[ChumpDumper]

you can call it stupid but Mandela followers believed he was a living god almost as much as Evo followers regardless of terms. and thats a factNo, no one thought Mandela was a living god.

Stop being stupid.

[hater]

No, no one thought Mandela was a living god.

Stop being stupid.

yes Mandela followers did. you can disagree but you are wrong

[ChumpDumper]

yes Mandela followers did.No, they did not.

[hater]

No, they did not.

disagree

[ChumpDumper]

disagree:lol of course you do.

You're being stupid.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/simpsonitomx/status/1194841640642498560?s=21

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

disagree

Remember when the left used to be about peace and anti-war? Seems like ever since Trump got elected a good portion of the left is acting more hawkish and neocon

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when the left used to be about peace and anti-war? Seems like ever since Trump got elected a good portion of the left is acting more hawkish.Nice non sequitur.

[Winehole23]

Remember when the left used to be about peace and anti-war? Seems like ever since Trump got elected a good portion of the left is acting more hawkish and neoconWhen was that? 50 years ago?

[TheGreatYacht]

Self Declared Bolivian President Is A Christian Fundamentalist

https://youtu.be/IwtcM5It3B0
Despite No Evidence Of "Irregularities" In Bolivia's Election, US-Backed Official DECLARED President

https://youtu.be/QBKrsWn_zno

[TheGreatYacht]

President Evo Morales Killed A Multinational Firm's Lithium Deal, And A Week Later He Was Overthrown

https://youtu.be/DJ4e6hUyuAM

[Winehole23]

like a boss

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[TheGreatYacht]

like a boss

1195513931881680901

Fucking animals. And the blind patriotic Americans wonder why the world hates us smh

[Winehole23]

Self-declared president muses about banning the opposition party, as one does.

[ElNono]

sure he should have gone like Putin and allowed someone else to run for a while but if he did that USA would have taken him out in a millisecond. he knew he had to make the most of it in 1 shot and now the recent events prove it

bolivia lowered its poverty and the eliminated non-literacy. gdp through the roof and one of the best economic growth in latin america

good luck having a US puppet keep that up.

This is all cool, and he could be the second coming of mother teresa, but the lack of respect for the constitution (or how easy is to change it) is a big factor why banana republics are banana republics...

[ElNono]

He was asking for the law to be followed. That's obviously too much for you.

What are you talking about? I posted: "he was elected in 2005, IIRC, and Bolivia had a 2 term max limit for president".

That means his mandate was supposed to end in 2013 (4 year first term + 4 year second term), but he shat on the constitution.

He even had a referendum to enable him to be re-elected indefinitely a couple of years back, and the people said no...

[Winehole23]

RE: the lithium coup hypothesis

https://twitter.com/triofrancos/status/1195052279478521861?s=19

[Spurtacular]

What are you talking about? I posted: "he was elected in 2005, IIRC, and Bolivia had a 2 term max limit for president".

That means his mandate was supposed to end in 2013 (4 year first term + 4 year second term), but he shat on the constitution.

He even had a referendum to enable him to be re-elected indefinitely a couple of years back, and the people said no...

The law was changed to allow more than two terms; stop trying to talk your way around that fact.

[Winehole23]

The law was changed to allow more than two terms; stop trying to talk your way around that fact.You're talking past El Nono. He isn't arguing that what Morales did was illegal, he's saying he forfeit normative legitimacy by ignoring the consititution and a popular referendum. The people voted against extending Morales's term of office.

Though procedurally legal and legit, the Supreme Court ruling declaring term limits unconstitutional looked like.home cooking and further eroded his legitimacy in the eyes of the people.

Evo had been getting 60% of the vote, this time around he barely cracked 45%. There were erstwhile leftist allies of Morales out in the streets protesting him before the coup because the situation looked uncomfortably like caudillismo.

Savage irony, so does the self-declared president and her party of light skinned colonial elites.

[Spurtacular]

You're talking past El Nono. He isn't arguing that what Morales did was illegal, he's saying he forfeit normative legitimacy by ignoring the consititution and a popular referendum. The people voted against extending Morales's term of office.

Though procedurally legal and legit, the Supreme Court ruling declaring term limits unconstitutional looked like.home cooking and further eroded his legitimacy in the eyes of the people.

Evo had been getting 60% of the vote, this time around he barely cracked 45%. There were erstwhile leftist allies of Morales out in the streets protesting him before the coup because the situation looked uncomfortably like caudillismo.

Savage irony, so does the self-declared president and her party of light skinned colonial elites.

The courts can't be corrupt. Liberals been telling us that for years.

[Winehole23]

Procedural legality does not guarantee democratic legitimacy, far from it. Everything the Nazis did was legal.

[Winehole23]

The courts can't be corrupt. Liberals been telling us that for years.
Sorry, who's been telling you that?

[Winehole23]

Just curious, what do you think about people protesting the coup? Are they lawbreakers who need to be brought to heel by the state?

[ElNono]

The law was changed to allow more than two terms; stop trying to talk your way around that fact.

Basically what Wino said... he perverted the democratic process of Bolivia to remain in power. That normally ends in one of two ways: a coup or dictatorship.

Sooner or later people get tired of Dear Leader (pun intended).

[Spurtacular]

Basically what Wino said... he perverted the democratic process of Bolivia to remain in power. That normally ends in one of two ways: a coup or dictatorship.

Sooner or later people get tired of Dear Leader (pun intended).

Perverting the process is what politicians do. FDR perverted the process; same players are saying he's top five president.

[ElNono]

Perverting the process is what politicians do. FDR perverted the process; same players are saying he's top five president.

It's different. The two terms were not yet enshrined in the US Constitution when FDR governed. It was simply a tradition. Eventually, that was corrected.

In this case, the Constitution clearly spelled out it was two terms. The reason I said he was asking for it is because he even attempted to change the Constitution and received a resounding no. And still tried to cling to power.

[ChumpDumper]

Perverting the process is what politicians do. FDR perverted the process; same players are saying he's top five president.
Uh, how did FDR pervert the process?

[boutons_deux]

Procedural legality does not guarantee democratic legitimacy, far from it. Everything the Nazis did was legal.

nothing Moscow Mitch has done to pollute the Federal judiciary with inexperienced, ABA-disapproved, young, incompetent assholes is illegal, it's just "Constitutional hardball" to fuckup America in favor of the anti-democratic, authoritarian oligarchy and hate-driven Christian supremacists/dominionists. Mitch McConnell has pulled off, and will continue to implement a right-wing coup

Will the oligarchy's SCOTUS whores shield Trash's tax returns?

I wouldn't be surprised that they overturn the 1924 law created in response to the Repug Teapot Dome "scandal".

The oligarchy's SCOTUS whores consider stare decisis meaningless, weightless if the oligarchy/Christians want it overruled.

[Winehole23]

Spurtacular is a very typical man of the right in 2019. He defends official abuse of democratic norms by pointing out its legality. At bottom this gambit is an argument from the standpoint of raw power: no legitimate objection can be raised to legally enacted policies.

[Winehole23]

NO LAWS WERE BROKEN, is the love song when right wingers abuse power and the polity. Spurtacular is so far gone in this direction that he'll even defend leftists this way.

[boutons_deux]

Evo Morales was first-ever indigenous President (aka a fucking "Indian" to be exterminated),

helped indigenous people overturn colonial exploitation, and

was a "socialist",

so USA, blindly kneejerking at any hint of For The People "socialism" (aka, anything NOT pure, predatory, brutal, inhumane, avaricious Capitalism),

HAD to get rid of him.

[Winehole23]

Evo Morales was first-ever indigenous President (aka a fucking "Indian" to be exterminated),

helped indigenous people overturn colonial exploitation, and

was a "socialist",

so USA, blindly kneejerking at any hint of For The People "socialism" (aka, anything NOT pure, predatory, brutal, inhumane, avaricious Capitalism),

HAD to get rid of him.Little doubt the USA influenced it, but the coup looks more or less homegrown to me.

[Chucho]

:lol derp getting shit on with facts

:lol derp thinks he's intelligent

:lol derp getting shit on daily

:lol derp the dead horse that beats itself mercilessly

[Spurtacular]

Uh, how did FDR pervert the process?

In the context of what NoNo is talking about, he violated the rich two-term tradition and during turbulent times to boot.

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp getting shit on with facts

:lol derp thinks he's intelligent

:lol derp getting shit on daily

:lol derp the dead horse that beats itself mercilessly

:lol Blako
:lol Who hurt you?

[ChumpDumper]

In the context of what NoNo is talking about, he violated the rich two-term tradition and during turbulent times to boot.He said nothing of the sort.

FDR did not pervert the process.

[Spurtacular]

He said nothing of the sort.

FDR did not pervert the process.

I didn't say he said it. We're talking concepts. You shouldn't jump into conversations if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't say he said it. We're talking concepts. You shouldn't jump into conversations if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.:lmao "concepts"

FDR did not pervert the process. He followed the process the founding fathers put in the Constitution.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Spurtacular]

Follow the convo next time, humper. Nobody cares about your hot air.

[ChumpDumper]

Follow the convo next time, humper. Nobody cares about your hot air.FDR followed the process.

Nothing you say changes that.

[Spurtacular]

FDR followed the process.

Nothing you say changes that.

The established process was to walk away after two terms. Greedy fucker did four when the thirty or so before him had not broken with tradition. Yea, nothing you can say will change that.

lol dump

[ChumpDumper]

The established process was to walk away after two terms. Greedy fucker did four when the thirty or so before him had not broken with tradition. Yea, nothing you can say will change that.

lol dump:lmao tradition<>process

derptionary

[Spurtacular]

:lmao tradition<>process

derptionary

It's Nono's dictionary. The Venezuelan dude followed the legal process, dude.

lol dump

[ChumpDumper]

It's Nono's dictionary. The Venezuelan dude followed the legal process, dude.

lol dumpThat's debatable. The OAS mission that he invited to monitor the election himself concluded he did not win the election as he claimed.

You claim there is voter fraud in US elections. How is that impossible in Bolivia?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

That's debatable. The OAS mission that he invited to monitor the election himself concluded he did not win the election as he claimed.

You claim there is voter fraud in US elections. How is that impossible in Bolivia?

Explain.

I never said impossible; but plenty of experts on the left say the election was valid.

[Chucho]

:lol derp getting shit on

:lol derp shitting on himself. Dumb fuck.

[Spurtacular]

Damn, you're broke, blako.

Who hurt you?

[ChumpDumper]

I never said impossible; but plenty of experts on the left say the election was valid.Which ones?

Link them up.

Especially the ones that actually monitored the election like the OAS.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll give you a credible quote.

The OAS Electoral Observation Mission identified serious irregularities in the conduct of the October 20 election. At the invitation of the Bolivian Government, a separate OAS team followed up to conduct an analysis of the electoral process, often referred to as an audit of the election. Despite the difficulty of their mission, and doubts even by the opposition, they persevered and found conclusive proof of election fraud, such as forged signatures in electoral records and the presence of an unauthorized internet server interfering with the vote count. Other organizations involved in the process have confirmed these irregularities, including a consulting firm hired by the Bolivian government itself to audit the election. This was clearly an attempt by the government to subvert the will of the Bolivian people.

- Carlos Trujillo

[Winehole23]

Ain't democracy great?

1195748779649064961

[boutons_deux]

Ain't democracy great?

Following Empire America's shielding/pardoning of its murderous military from prosecution.

[Winehole23]

Worse and worse

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[hater]

:lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/manitoclio/status/1196447542671822851?s=21

[TheGreatYacht]

Exposing the fascist forces behind Bolivia's US-backed coup - with Max Blumenthal

https://youtu.be/QXG9ncKGMsg

[TheGreatYacht]

Democracy In Action: MSM Ignore US-Backed Bolivia Opposition Killing Protestors During Military Coup

https://youtu.be/1XUO-THOzWM

[Spurtacular]

:lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/manitoclio/status/1196447542671822851?s=21

????

[hater]

“bolivias new female president thinks shes European white”

:lmao


https://twitter.com/quemero08/status/1196519861813420032?s=21

[hater]

????


“the self proclaimed Bolivian and Venezuelan presidents had a video conference”


:lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/pascualsergio/status/1196329463459516416?s=21

[Winehole23]

Añez has created a special apparatus to detain MAS (i.e., 2/3 of the legislature) and has basically given the military a license to kill in response to protests.

Añez's party got 4% of the vote in the recent election.

But yeah, democracy is being restored in Bolivia.

[TheGreatYacht]

MSM Continues To Ignore 23 Dead In Bolivia As US-Backed Opposition Arrests Journalists & Lawmakers

https://youtu.be/tZKJ2J7jaDs

[ChumpDumper]

MSM Continues To Ignore 23 Dead In Bolivia As US-Backed Opposition Arrests Journalists & Lawmakers

https://youtu.be/tZKJ2J7jaDsReading a Washington Post story about it right now.

Your YouTube is wrong.

[Winehole23]

The established process was to walk away after two terms. Greedy fucker did four when the thirty or so before him had not broken with tradition. Yea, nothing you can say will change that.

lol dumpSpurtacular: staunch defender of democratic norms.

Also Spurtacular: relflexive Trump sucker.

[TheGreatYacht]

Reading a Washington Post story about it right now.

Your YouTube is wrong.

Fake News.

Jeff Bezos Does Huge Business with the CIA
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternet.org/2013/12/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark/amp/

World's Most Powerful CEO Joins Pentagon Defense Board

https://youtu.be/4n5sFS02jQc

[ChumpDumper]

Fake News.

How is it fake news when it's reporting exactly what your YouTube is complaining it isn't reporting?

Explain.

[TheGreatYacht]

How is it fake news when it's reporting exactly what your YouTube is complaining it isn't reporting?

Explain.

CIA lies. You trust Mike Pompeo and the neocons appointed by the Trump administration to tell you the truth because CNN and MSNBC say so?

Manufactured consent.
- Noam Chomsky

[ChumpDumper]

CIA lies. You trust Mike Pompeo and the neocons appointed by the Trump administration to tell you the truth because CNN and MSNBC say so?

Manufactured consent.
- Noam ChomskyThe Washington Post article said pretty much the same thing you were talking about.

You're saying you lied.

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular: staunch defender of democratic norms.

Also Spurtacular: relflexive Trump sucker.

Blakehole lashing out.

[hater]

more ppl killed today by military but in their defense some idiots were trying to break into the gas refinery of the capital dynamite in hand and trying to burn it down

[Spurtacular]

Fake News.

Jeff Bezos Does Huge Business with the CIA
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternet.org/2013/12/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark/amp/

World's Most Powerful CEO Joins Pentagon Defense Board

https://youtu.be/4n5sFS02jQc

Chump will take any fake news that supports his agenda, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump will take any fake news that supports his agenda, tbh.The news I read was exactly the same as what he claimed.

You're calling his source fake too.

lol derp

[Spurtacular]

The news I read was exactly the same as what he claimed.

You're calling his source fake too.

lol derp

I haven't called his source anything. Why can't you control yourself, sloppy psychopath?

[ChumpDumper]

I haven't called his source anything. Why can't you control yourself, sloppy psychopath?You called my news fake. The news was the same as his. You called his news fake. You're free to change your call, but you can't call one fake and one not. They're the same news.

[Spurtacular]

You called my news fake.

Sloppy psychopath rapid firing false narratives. Par.

[ChumpDumper]

Sloppy psychopath rapid firing false narratives. Par.

Chump will take any fake news that supports his agenda, tbh.
:lol derp lied again

[Spurtacular]

:lol derp lied again

Rapid firing falsities. Par.

I did say you like fake news. I made no comments specifically directed at you or GY besides that overarching commentary.

:lmao Sloppy psychopath

[ChumpDumper]

Rapid firing falsities. Par.

I did say you like fake news. I made no comments specifically directed at you or GY besides that overarching commentary.

:lmao Sloppy psychopathSo what I actually posted was not fake news, according to you?

:lmao derp

[Spurtacular]

So what I actually posted was not fake news, according to you?

:lmao derp


I made no comments specifically directed at you or GY besides that overarching commentary.

You were just spoon fed this, sloppy psychopath.

[ChumpDumper]

You were just spoon fed this, sloppy psychopath.So no actual fake news.

:lmao derp

[hater]

a week has passed and the interim “president” has not set election date yet

calling it now elections will likely not happen amytime soon. they might even set a date but will postpone and postpone

she is also decreen new law after new law when her only job should be to fucking call elections :lmao

[Spurtacular]

So no actual fake news.

:lmao derp

I didn't say that. But you do love your fake news, no doubt.

[TheGreatYacht]

Who is Bolivia's far-right US-backed coup leader?

https://youtu.be/P2cHKyqaRo8

[TheGreatYacht]

Bolivia coup: Lithium, natural gas, and leaked recordings showing help from US, Brazil, Colombia

https://youtu.be/bMscskEEAyw

[TheGreatYacht]

Corporate News Repeats CIA Propaganda On Bolivian Coup

https://youtu.be/-Q6XRmPYamA

[TheGreatYacht]

Police Given Immunity In Terrifying Bolivia Crackdown

https://youtu.be/X7oJmX6DuX8

[Winehole23]

^^^ spamming multiple threads with the same crap

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1197793248225267712

About fucking time

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1197793248225267712

About fucking time
too bad she's in bed with the jews tho amirite?

[TheGreatYacht]

"Liberation": US-Backed Coup Leader Jeanine Añez Moves Bolivian Cash & Gold Reserves To The US

https://youtu.be/o7WCZDtCFPc
https://charlesdornach.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/usaimpc3a9rialisme.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TLAVagabond/status/1203517639848595457

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TLAVagabond/status/1203517639848595457

Israel.

[Winehole23]

sure, why not, blame the Jews for the Bolivian coup too.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bolivia's US-Backed Coup Government Seeking Israel's Help To Suppress Protesters

https://youtu.be/cLhYkzXprEs

[hater]

^ :lmao winehole

[spurraider21]

yes. the same guy posted the same thing on twitter as youtube. great corroboration :lol

[Chucho]

yes. the same guy posted the same thing on twitter as youtube. great corroboration :lol

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1206716376498479114

[TheGreatYacht]

Gov. Drops False Charges Against Journalist Max Bluementhal

https://youtu.be/WWJbdIqwJBU

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1207045662359085057

[TheGreatYacht]

Bolivia's US-Backed Coup Government Now Privatizing The Economy - For The Bolivian People Of Course

https://youtu.be/uULgdzXmD94

[TheGreatYacht]

Watch: Glenn Greenwald’s Exclusive Interview With Evo Morales in Mexico City

https://youtu.be/-hEwE64-kUQ

[hater]

Leaked Audio Recordings Implicate Cruz, Menendez And Rubio In Bolivia Coup & Veteran's Day Reality

https://youtu.be/NppIIbdhobo

Bumpity bump

Bolivia said fuck off little Marco and rest of fascists :lol

[hater]

Evo was basically the Maradona of 3rd world shithole presidents. Not a perfect individual by amlong shot but always competes for a ship and practically irreplaceable

good luck having that nazi self proclaimed Juana Guaido carry the torch for him :lmao

Called it :lol

[spurraider21]

would be ideal if those recordings were translated to english in a transcript. not gonna take some guys word for it based on that guy's "basic understanding of spanish"

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1318254669970419713?s=19

[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1318254669970419713?s=19
:tu

[hater]

:lmao USA 3rd world shithole

https://twitter.com/anyaparampil/status/1318252657279107072?s=19

[pgardn]

:lmao USA 3rd world shithole

https://twitter.com/anyaparampil/status/1318252657279107072?s=19

More transparent than THE IOWA CAUCAS!

Thats really not the comparison you want to make as a thriving democracy.

But how would a guy who loves Putin and Assad even begin to understand this...

[hater]

would be ideal if those recordings were translated to english in a transcript. not gonna take some guys word for it based on that guy's "basic understanding of spanish"

Tuesday, November 12, 2019. A series of 16 audios that involve opposition leaders orchestrating destabilization plans before and after the October 20 elections, aimed at preventing President Evo Morales from continuing in power, and that would have been coordinated from the United States embassy in the country, they were disclosed by Erbol, a Bolivian digital medium.

This news site cited the report US hands against Bolivia , dated October 8, which, based on the audios, describes the opposition plot with US support to destabilize the country and obtain the support of the armed forces in order to ignore to the indigenous leader.

Reyes Villa, in conversation with people who could not be identified, assures that there was a commitment from the US senators Marco Rubio, Bob Menéndez and Ted Cruz to promote economic sanctions against Bolivia, in case Morales had remained in power.

“These three names that are mentioned in our agenda, are the key that is driving the interest that the Bolivian people have justice for the vote of February 21, 2016 (day of the referendum on the presidential re-election in which the no. ), ”Says Reyes Villa, who is in the United States.

In another recording, a Bolivian opponent, who did not identify himself, proposed the strategy to follow with a premise that would invalidate the October 20 elections, generate a military-civil uprising and organize a national strike. In addition, he commented that there were elements of the armed forces and the police that would support such actions.

An unidentified former military officer warns about the risk of contaminating the civic committees of La Paz and Santa Cruz, to prevent the government from accusing them of coup leaders. Later, a person says: Mr. former president, we are on an escalation that at some point must reach its climax based on mobilization, because the armed forces are going to react according to what the popular movements do. If there is a majority support, at some point someone is going to tell him, please, President, comply with the law, and that is what we must go to .

Among the strategies they agree to attack the homes of supporters of the Movement to Socialism party to instill fear in the population and influence them later to support the coup, according to the recordings.



https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.jornada.com.mx/ultimas/politica/2019/11/12/revelan-audios-que-ligan-a-la-oposicion-y-a-eu-en-la-asonada-6709.html&usg=ALkJrhjNj7Odnd2K1UQgIUcriYCyqV8liQ

[hater]

:wow

https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1318578336877187075?s=19

[hater]

:wow

This is some boss shit

https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1362176105332019201?s=19

[hater]

Calling it now. Sanctions and regime change activities incoming for bolivia.....

[Winehole23]

Calling it now. Sanctions and regime change activities incoming for bolivia.....What going on in Ecuador?

Electoral recount suspended with Correia’s protege having a plurality of the vote:https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210217-ecuador-suspends-recount-in-presidential-election

The hard left sees Yaku Perez as a neoliberal patsy: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/06/yaku-perez-pachakutik-ecuador-us-coup/

What does the situation look look like to you?

[hater]

Wrong thread, I know, but do you have any sources on what’s going on in Ecuador?

Electoral recount suspended with Evo’s protege having a plurality of the vote:https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210217-ecuador-suspends-recount-in-presidential-election

The hard left sees Yaku Perez as a neoliberal patsy: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/06/yaku-perez-pachakutik-ecuador-us-coup/

What does the situation look look like to you?

Last I checked, noone won in 1st round and 2nd round is in April. Mmmm will check, some shady shit going on in between rounds?

[hater]

Ecuador besides Correa has unproven lefties. Last lefty that replaced Correa flipped and became a US puppet. The guy that betrayed Assange.

US has lots more control over Ecuador than Bolivia or other countries south

[Winehole23]

US has lots more control over Ecuador than Bolivia or other countries southEx-intirim president Jeanine Anez to be arrested for terrorism and sedition.


Álvaro Coimbra, who served as justice minister under Áñez, said on Twitter that he also faces an arrest warrant and that one of his vice-ministers had been arrested.


After almost 13 years in the presidency, Morales flew into exile in November 2019 at the urging of police and military leaders and Áñez, who had been several rungs down the line of succession, took power when those above her also resigned.


The interim authorities themselves tried to prosecute Morales (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/bolivia-evo-morales-vow-jail-rest-life-arturo-murillo)and key members of his government, accusing them of rigging an election and of illegally suppressing dissent.


But Morales’s party won election again under his chosen successor, Luis Arce (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/bolivia-left-return-power-evo-morales-mas), and the former leader has returned home.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/bolivia-ex-interim-president-jeanine-anez-arrest-warrant


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[Winehole23]

this morning

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwW-GcZWYAItwzq?format=jpg&name=medium

[hater]

Ex-intirim president Jeanine Anez to be arrested for terrorism and sedition.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/bolivia-ex-interim-president-jeanine-anez-arrest-warrant


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She was just a stupid puppet. That bald guy next to her was a real killer. Murillo he was the defense secretary.

He ran away to Florira and bought a million dollar house.

[Winehole23]

fuller picture of the scene and the regional elections here:

https://nacla.org/bolivia-regional-elections-mas

[hater]

fuller picture of the scene and the regional elections here:

https://nacla.org/bolivia-regional-elections-mas

Thanks

That president Arce seems like an economy genius. Somehow seems to be bringing Bolivia back from the economic brink which was taken there by US far right puppets.

Bolivia also returned the "loan" given by the IMF under the far right regime

[spurraider21]

i have my issues with how Morales navigated the system to get re-elected, but the ensuing military coup was on its face absurd

[Winehole23]

i have my issues with how Morales navigated the system to get re-elected, but the ensuing military coup was on its face absurdthe US seems to place more credence in the coup plotters than the duly elected government.

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[pgardn]

we continually f up in S. America...

[diego]

the US seems to place more credence in the coup plotters than the duly elected government.

1375836702653177857

Seems? Of course they do they were behind it. It just becomes more insultingly transparent each time.. ofc in the case Añez did exactly what the the us is criticizing bolivia for now...

[Winehole23]

Seems? Of course they do they were behind it. It just becomes more insultingly transparent each time.. ofc in the case Añez did exactly what the the us is criticizing bolivia for now...from the North American perspective it looks like the OAS took the side of the fascist coup and indigenous slaughter, what are the main South American takes on OAS re:Bolivia?

[diego]

OAS is a lapdog for the US, I think they only once ever took a position contrary to washington (drug war, and ofc nothing came of it because the US is the boss). most of the south american political class are local elites more interested in keeping their status than improving anyone else's, supporting anti-US positions is a proven way to lose that status

[boutons_deux]

we continually f up in S. America...

and in Central America, whose refugees from countries fucked up, corrupted towards fascism by the CIA for decades, flood towards USA for asylum.

[diego]

(dp)

[hater]

OAS is a lapdog for the US, I think they only once ever took a position contrary to washington (drug war, and ofc nothing came of it because the US is the boss). most of the south american political class are local elites more interested in keeping their status than improving anyone else's, supporting anti-US positions is a proven way to lose that status

OAS is financed and founded? By USA(CIA) true.

But the real joke of an organization is the Lima group. Thats basically a rightwing organization of countries specifically formed and financed by USA to fight leftism in South America. The fact that its all in plain sight and they act like their decisions mean anythingbis the real joke.

[Winehole23]

OAS is a lapdog for the US, I think they only once ever took a position contrary to washington (drug war, and ofc nothing came of it because the US is the boss). most of the south american political class are local elites more interested in keeping their status than improving anyone else's, supporting anti-US positions is a proven way to lose that statusArgentina, Chile and Mexico all now have leftish governments, Brazil and Colombia appear to be headed that way too. Abstentions from the upcoming Summit of the Americas will underline waning US influence and prestige.