Game Thread: Spurs @ Magic - Nov. 15, 2019 - 6:00pm CT

[Kurgan]

Crofl at dumbass Demar not willing to take a 3

He's absolutely terrified of the three ball.

[Harry Callahan]

JHC. DeRozan is just a stupid player.

[r0drig0lac]

DeLoser

[Mugen]

timvp - I got you, my man:

"How dare these Edgelords expect the Spurs to beat a bottom 5 team in the league missing their best played. Spoiled Spurfan is spoiled."

[sasaint]

Timmy must regret coming out of retirement to watch these scrubs make a mockery out of the franchise he made into Champions and perennial contenders.

I do wonder whether sitting on the bench makes it harder for Timmy to watch the collapse of the franchise he turned into such a magnificent dynasty.

[Harry Callahan]

I want to punch DDR in his retard face. He is not worthy of the uniform. A friggin mistake machine only worried about his numbers and not the result of the game. I would rather watch young players with possible upside make mistakes while getting better than watch over 30 vets make mistakes that ten year vets should not make.

The front office needs to take a cold blooded heartless look at what they are putting out there. I'm beginning to think DeRozan better use his player option to take the $27MM instead of trying to get a big fat contract next year. He is a net negative player on offense and defense.

[gambit1990]

Legit question: is there any team in the league that spurs won’t struggle against and actually be the favorite?


spurs might be the favorite if they ever play the team that the globetrotters always beat.

[Mugen]

The entire bankroll is being placed on Portland tomorrow tbh. I'm fucking stoked.

[sasaint]

Hopefully Lillard scores 50 tomorrow and we can get a 5 game losing streak!

Don't know about the 50, but the 5 game losing streak is in the bag. Back to back - Spurs are hosed. Here's a thought - Maybe Melo will score 50.

[SpurPadre]

spurs might be the favorite if they ever play the team that the globetrotters always beat.

But even those players are probably more athletic than ours, tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

Can't wait for Melo to destroy this team tomorrow. Another L and Pop might actually change something

[timtonymanu]

"Play better, make more shots"

:lmao

Did senile really just say that again? That excuse that was tired even in the golden days

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

There goes any chance for DeRozan being traded to Orlando.

[sasaint]

But even those players are probably more athletic than ours, tbh.

Washington Generals vs. Spurs... toss-up. We don't have a Marques Haynes or Meadowlark Lemon.

[TimDunkem]

Spurs Live is the worst post-game show I've ever seen. It's one excuse after another...

[sasaint]

There goes any chance for DeRozan being traded to Orlando.

I was wondering about that, too.

[timtonymanu]

timvp - I got you, my man:

"How dare these Edgelords expect the Spurs to beat a bottom 5 team in the league missing their best played. Spoiled Spurfan is spoiled."

“You edgelords would be complaining even if you got what you wanted.”

[SpurPadre]

I do wonder whether sitting on the bench makes it harder for Timmy to watch the collapse of the franchise he turned into such a magnificent dynasty.

The 29th is looking mighty ugly in Load Management's return to San Antonio...

[Harry Callahan]

I just hope DJM gets healthier and gets more time at the end. At least he plays like he wants to be in SA and win. DeRozan and Aldridge have both checked out.

[SayTown]

I’m amazed this team has won 5 games this year.

They've had the second easiest strength of schedule so far.

[Kurgan]

Spurs Live is the worst post-game show I've ever seen. It's one excuse after another...

SA media is not allowed to criticize the Pop/Buford regime.

[SpurPadre]

I've finally pushed the panic button after this meltdown. Poorly constructed team for the second year in a row. Pop, make a fucking change for crying out loud.

[sasaint]

Like almost everybody here, I hated BonBon before the ketchup revelation. But now I want him canned. I don't want to see or hear him on Spurs' broadcasts ever again.

[Harry Callahan]

The younger Holt management group needs to take a hard look at what is going on here. This is a bad product they are trying to sell right now.

[BillMc]

I missed this game. What was the DeRozan flagrant everyone is chatting about?

Thanks.

[Budkin]

Tbh I’m rooting for the losing streak to continue until changes are made.

[sasaint]

The younger Holt management group needs to take a hard look at what is going on here. This is a bad product they are trying to sell right now.

Exactly. Allowing Pop to make some moves is tantamount to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. We need a regime change and a competent HC.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Bryn Forbes 29 minutes 1 assist 1 rebound. There’s so many ways to utilize him better rather than playing him 27 minutes a game and letting him get exposed. There’s not a NBA team where Forbes would be a starter and averaging 27 minutes.

[Budkin]

Defense is clearly the biggest problem on this team. They leak like a sieve.

[spurs10]

Hopefully Lillard scores 50 tomorrow and we can get a 5 game losing streak! That's very possible.

[Robz4000]

I missed this game. What was the DeRozan flagrant everyone is chatting about?

Thanks.

Put a chokehold on Aaron Gordon to ice the game for his next team.

[timtonymanu]

I missed this game. What was the DeRozan flagrant everyone is chatting about?

Thanks.

14-ish seconds left at the end of the 4th. spurs were just trying to get a foul for two free throws but Derozan gets a flagrant on Vucevic. Totally justified call and it pretty much cost the Spurs a chance to win

[sasaint]

I missed this game. What was the DeRozan flagrant everyone is chatting about?

Thanks.

Actually, an old school hard foul with his left hand against Gordon going hard to the rim. But afterward I saw a ref explain to a whining Dumbmar that he had grabbed Gordon's shoulder with his right hand.

[John B]

DeRozan does the stupidiest things really, dumb mistakes that cost games. It shows is a cancer

[timtonymanu]

Defense is clearly the biggest problem on this team. They leak like a sieve.

The defense, no impactful star, playing three Steve Kerr type players in the main rotation, Pop’s rotations, no depth, no athleticism, no NBA level 3 point shooting, I could go on.

[BillMc]

Put a chokehold on Aaron Gordon to ice the game for his next team.


14-ish seconds left at the end of the 4th. spurs were just trying to get a foul for two free throws but Derozan gets a flagrant on Vucevic. Totally justified call and it pretty much cost the Spurs a chance to win


Actually, an old school hard foul with his left hand against Gordon going hard to the rim. But afterward I saw a ref explain to a whining Dumbmar that he had grabbed Gordon's shoulder with his right hand.

Cheers guys.

Maybe this is all a nightmare. 5 Am here Going back to sleep and will wake up to a Spurs cakewalk victory. Um...right?

[SpurPadre]

Is this officially the longest losing streak in the Pop era from TD's first season to now?

[sasaint]

Cheers guys.

Maybe this is all a nightmare. 5 Am here Going back to sleep and will wake up to a Spurs cakewalk victory. Um...right?

You gonna do a Rip Van Winkle?

[gambit1990]

spurs opponents for the rest of this month:
-blazers
-mavs
-wizards
-6ers
-knicks
-lakers
-wolves
-clippers

spurs might be 8-12 by december.

[Kurgan]

Bryn Forbes 29 minutes 1 assist 1 rebound. There’s so many ways to utilize him better rather than playing him 27 minutes a game and letting him get exposed. There’s not a NBA team where Forbes would be a starter and averaging 27 minutes.

He's a symptom of the bigger problem - Derozan's inability to space the floor. If Derozan could shoot the threeball, Byrn could move back to his role as a bench shooter where he's most effective.

[JeffDuncan]

Play of the game.... Pop takes Aldridge out, and we end up with Patty trying to guard Vucevic under the basket.

[sasaint]

spurs opponents for the rest of this month:
-blazers
-mavs
-wizards
-6ers
-knicks
-lakers
-wolves
-clippers

spurs might be 8-12 by december.

More like 6-14.

[SpurPadre]

Cheers guys.

Maybe this is all a nightmare. 5 Am here Going back to sleep and will wake up to a Spurs cakewalk victory. Um...right?

I'd rather wakeup and see that we're still in 2017 and Zaza didn't take out Load Management.

[spurs1990]

Is this officially the longest losing streak in the Pop era from TD's first season to now?

They lost six straight in the 2011 season after going a ridiculous 57-13 or something like that. Harbinger of what would happen vs Memphis in the 1st round

[BillMc]

You gonna do a Rip Van Winkle?

Nah, I can't sleep well 4 hours much less 40 years or whatever it was.

[Harry Callahan]

Several of these players cannot make simple basketball plays when it matters most. I've seen all I need to see in the first 12 games. This is a full bore lottery team. No playoffs this year.

There needs to be a cleansing of the organization very soon. Pop might even pack it after the 70 games left this year. Hopefully the rebuild begins soon. This bunch has ZERO shot at being a factor in the POs. NONE.

[sasaint]

Nah, I can't sleep well 4 hours much less 40 years or whatever it was.

After such a short nap you aren't likely to awaken to a Spurs cakewalk. 40 years - better odds.

Night.

[BillMc]

I'd rather wakeup and see that we're still in 2017 and Zaza didn't take out Load Management.

True. And then we can all root for that nice, wholesome Kawhi who surely will be a Spur for life. :rollin

[sasaint]

Several of these players cannot make simple basketball plays when it matters most. I've seen all I need to see in the first 12 games. This is a full bore lottery team. No playoffs this year.

There needs to be a cleansing of the organization very soon. Pop might even pack it after the 70 games left this year. Hopefully the rebuild begins soon. This bunch has ZERO shot at being a factor in the POs. NONE.

They have very little chance of being a factor in the RS.

[SpurPadre]

They lost six straight in the 2011 season after going a ridiculous 57-13 or something like that. Harbinger of what would happen vs Memphis in the 1st round

Wow, thanks for checking. That Spurs team would still beat the ever loving shit out of this Spurs team though.

[Robz4000]

spurs opponents for the rest of this month:
-blazers
-mavs
-wizards
-6ers
-knicks
-lakers
-wolves
-clippers

spurs might be 8-12 by december.

I don't see a single win there tbh, so more like 5-15.

[RC_Drunkford]

spurs opponents for the rest of this month:
-blazers
-mavs
-wizards
-6ers
-knicks
-lakers
-wolves
-clippers

spurs might be 8-12 by december.

no way in hell do they win 3 games. More like 6-14

[duncan2k5]

why can’t demar have his breakdowns off the court? I wish he’d get in trouble and get locked up in a mental institution for the rest of his life. dude is a massive sack of shit

LMFAO!!! this is freaking HILARIOUS! I'm crying real tears!

[BillMc]

After such a short nap you aren't likely to awaken to a Spurs cakewalk. 40 years - better odds.

Night.

In 40 years the NBA won't exist if it keeps putting out this crappy carnival boardwalk product.

[SpurPadre]

True. And then we can all root for that nice, wholesome Kawhi who surely will be a Spur for life. :rollin

I wonder if we had won it all that year, if "Ma Touches" still would've asked to be traded.

[timvp]

I haven't seen Edgelords this happy since last year around this time.


*sets edgelord bait*

[sasaint]

In 40 years the NBA won't exist if it keeps putting out this crappy carnival boardwalk product.

True that!

[timtonymanu]

I don't see a single win there tbh, so more like 5-15.

Yep the 2 “easier” opponents, they nearly lost to at home

[BillMc]

I wonder if we had won it all that year, if "Ma Touches" still would've asked to be traded.

Don't know, but Load Management would still play his California dreamin' shtick.

[Genovaswitness]

LMFAO!!! this is freaking HILARIOUS! I'm crying real tears!

glad I could bring some levity to the implosion of our fav team :lmao

[duncan2k5]

Why was DDR even in the game when we needed a 3? Even Murray would have been a better option... Dude almost ran down the entire clock clumsily dribbling

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1195470956992638978

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[SpurPadre]

Don't know, but Load Management would still play his California dreamin' shtick.

Yeah, true but it would've been worth at least getting one more ring out of it before he killed this franchise into the mess it is today.

[timvp]

Why are you guys blaming DeMar when it was Pop's long-ass play that was wasting all the time? I expected this game thread to be mad at Pop's play but instead people are mad at DeMar for running Pop's play?

Weird timeline we're in, folks.

[BillMc]

Yeah, true but it would've been worth at least getting one more ring out of it before he killed this franchise into the mess it is today.

Agreed.

[Harry Callahan]

A starting position should not be viewed as a birthright for any player on the current roster. Their play does not justify it.

[weebo]

The tank is on!

[wildcardX]

You know this is going to mean more playing time together for Mills and Marco. Pop loves that duo like Christopher Walken loves more cowbell.

https://pics.me.me/thumb_it-needs-more-cowbell-scp-513-1-when-literally-anything-happens-44043758.png

[gambit1990]

Why are you guys blaming DeMar when it was Pop's long-ass play that was wasting all the time? I expected this game thread to be mad at Pop's play but instead people are mad at DeMar for running Pop's play?

Weird timeline we're in, folks.


i didn't know that pop drew up demar's flagrant foul.

[gambit1990]

pop definitely deserves blame but if you're still trying to defend demar then may god help you.

[timvp]

i didn't know that pop drew up demar's flagrant foul.

The topic at hand is that offensive possession, pal.

[Dhbsr555]

it’s the coach we are being out coached

[SpurPadre]

Since Paul George and Load Management are ass-fucking us in two weeks, I hope DeRozan puts his flagrant foul skills to use that game.

[RC_Drunkford]

Why are you guys blaming DeMar when it was Pop's long-ass play that was wasting all the time? I expected this game thread to be mad at Pop's play but instead people are mad at DeMar for running Pop's play?

Weird timeline we're in, folks.

I thought Pop was gonna get another C+

[timvp]

I thought Pop was gonna get another C+

Underrated humor :tu

[RC_Drunkford]

the Spurs are literally starting one of the Top 5 worst back courts in the NBA together with the worst starting PF in the NBA alongside of DeMar DeRozan and a 34-year old LaMarcus Aldridge and people wonder why they are losing games :lol

[tbdog]

Watched the game with a magic fan and he was disgusted by the flangant call. Also like usual, DD is by far our best player and ST shits on him. LMA again failed. Murray again poor. Lyle's again gives no defensive stats.

[DPG21920]

I don’t know who would be happy about this. Not even the usual “I told you so” posters.

It’s bad and we aren’t even getting the silver linings we expected of Murray/White/Lonnie on top of possibly missing the playoffs while not building for the future

[Arcadian]

Well, this franchise is officially in the gutter. Horrible roster, horrible coaching, and no hope for the foreseeable future. :lol What a dumpster fire.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

The tank is on!Not until you see Walker playing.

[UZER]

Why are you guys blaming DeMar when it was Pop's long-ass play that was wasting all the time? I expected this game thread to be mad at Pop's play but instead people are mad at DeMar for running Pop's play?

Weird timeline we're in, folks.

You want so bad to jump on the edgelord side but you keep fighting it by taking cute pot shots instead. :lol

Let it go man. No matter which way you try to spin the logic, the bottom line is Pop needs to go (it’s time), and Derozen too (he sucks, bad).

[3&D_TBH]

Is there even anyone worth tanking for? I don’t know shit about the current college prospects. Gotta be some kind of talent out there that can help us I suppose. Can’t get worse than this tbh.

[Arcadian]

What a dumpster fire.

Actually, it's far worse than a dumpster fire - it's more like a nuclear catastrophe. We're the Chernobyl of the NBA, Pop is Dyatlov, and our best players are cancer mutants. :lol

[Mugen]

I don’t know who would be happy about this. Not even the usual “I told you so” posters.

It’s bad and we aren’t even getting the silver linings we expected of Murray/White/Lonnie on top of possibly missing the playoffs while not building for the future

Meh - if it drives Pop to an early retirement, these embarrassing losses will be worth it. The Spurs have young guys that are still good, they just need a new coach that can give them a chance and get the best out of them. This Jerry Sloan clone ain't it.

[BackHome]

This sucks because so far this upcoming draft is looking pretty weak though it will have quite a few PG which worries me as Poop always selects one before much needed SF/SG/PF

[timvp]

I don’t know who would be happy about this. Not even the usual “I told you so” posters.

Edgelords haven't been this happy since this same week last year, tbch.

[ducks]

34-10 free throws and a fake flagrant call

That flagrant call reminds me of the fake bribery nancy says!

[RC_Drunkford]

34-10 free throws and a fake flagrant call

That flagrant call reminds me of the fake bribery nancy says!

Pop will blame this loss on the free throws and start the same line up next game

[Dennis the Menace]

I don’t know who would be happy about this. Not even the usual “I told you so” posters.

It’s bad and we aren’t even getting the silver linings we expected of Murray/White/Lonnie on top of possibly missing the playoffs while not building for the future

We suck and the pups aren’t getting better & no significant playing time/reps. That’s the worst part. I’m cool if we suck as long as the pups are developing. Talking about Murray, White, Walker, Metu. Definitely not Bryn, he’s not an actual NBA player on any other roster

[ZeusWillJudge]

I left at the half. Told my wife they would find a way to lose this game.

The Spurs shot 50.6% overall (compared to 40.4% for Orlando), and 50% from 3P, and only had 11 Turnovers. That's usually enough to guarantee a win.

But Orlando went to the line 34 times, compared to 10 for the Spurs. And the Spurs STILL would have taken it to O/T if they hadn't shot 60% from the line. (Orlando shot 80%, on 24 more attempts.) You can't blame that all on refs. That's a team playing shitty defense, and reaching.

0 minutes for Carroll, Walker, and Metu? I guess Pop showed them.

[gambit1990]

spurs would be better with cp3 over ddr.

[Big P]

Is there even anyone worth tanking for? I don’t know shit about the current college prospects. Gotta be some kind of talent out there that can help us I suppose. Can’t get worse than this tbh.

It doesn't matter if we get a lottery pick, even if we got a top 5 pick, pop would have them in Austin for 2-3 years, his system is old, broken trash, he has no one but himself to blame and the team as constructed and coached is unwatchable.

[spurs10]

Well people can complain all they want, but I'm going to the game and rooting on the Spurs tomorrow because I'm not a fair-weather fan..........and it would be impossible to sell my tickets to anyone with them playing like this. :cry

[TDomination]

21 minutes for white
20 for Murray

maybe limited minutes for white due to him playing more minutes tomorrow since Murray will be out?

im sorry but the Forbes starting lineup experiment needs to end. I’m getting sick and tired of him being completely useless on D when someone bigger (everyone in the NBA besides Patty) is on him. It’s getting beyond tiresome.

I guess defensive minded Pop is completely dead?? It’s truly sad. It’s the thing I respected most about him was how much he focused on the defense. The opposite of Dantoni. It was great it was the Spurs way. A defensive powerhouse, boring but effective. What happened to that? And you can’t just say well look at the roster we have. Pop can put a better defensive lineup out there.

The most glaring and obvious is White and Murray. Should be the best defensive backcourt in the NBA but we haven’t seen that and I fear we never will because Pop is so concerned about spacing. I don’t know how guys like Green, Bowen, Jefferson, Khawi, all became great 3 pt shooters under Pop but yet he can’t push Derozan to improve in that part of his game. Is Derozan that unwilling or does Pop treat him differently because of his depression stuff??? I truly thought year 2 was going to unveil a new Derozan with a 3 pt threat. That would change everything as far as the starting lineup goes. You can then get away with white/Murray combo with Derozan as a 3pt threat.

LMA has been pretty good on D when he tries and I’m liking Lyles hustle on the boards.

Anyways he just doesn’t look like the same Pop. His obsession with Marco (worst defender in the team) proves that.

And the whole Carroll ordeal is completely bizarre.

[Slippy]

It doesn't matter if we get a lottery pick, even if we got a top 5 pick, pop would have them in Austin for 2-3 years, his system is old, broken trash, he has no one but himself to blame and the team as constructed and coached is unwatchable.

Ya I don't get the asking for tank when you got coach pop in charge. unless he's a number one pick coach will most likely force that draft pick to go thru 1yr of not playing penance.

[Slippy]

the Spurs are literally starting one of the Top 5 worst back courts in the NBA together with the worst starting PF in the NBA alongside of DeMar DeRozan and a 34-year old LaMarcus Aldridge and people wonder why they are losing games :lol

Pretty much this and I ain't wondering.

At 70 tho it's easy to forget

[SAGirl]

Bryn Forbes 29 minutes 1 assist 1 rebound. There’s so many ways to utilize him better rather than playing him 27 minutes a game and letting him get exposed. There’s not a NBA team where Forbes would be a starter and averaging 27 minutes.
This started 2 years ago and I complained a ton then but eventually got tired. He should not be starting and playing this many minutes. Not his fault Pop has him overmatched every night all game.

[Fireball]

i have no words ...

[UZER]

i have no words ...


If you didn’t have words, this would be you post...



...

[cd021]

This started 2 years ago and I complained a ton then but eventually got tired. He should not be starting and playing this many minutes. Not his fault Pop has him overmatched every night all game.

Kinda needs to start though with him being the only consistent 3pt shooter and, we really don't need a Mills, Forbes, Belinelli bench trio in our lives.

Once Murray is able to play more minutes, Pop should move Mills to PG (nominally, at least) and have White back up Forbes.

Murray- 28 mpg/ Mills-20 mpg
Forbes-20 mpg/ White- 28 mpg

[Spurtacular]

Srs? That weak two shots and the ball at that point in the game?

SMH Today's NBA.

[duncan2k5]

This started 2 years ago and I complained a ton then but eventually got tired. He should not be starting and playing this many minutes. Not his fault Pop has him overmatched every night all game.

I've been saying this also... But ppl like to say I have shit takes until years later when my warnings manifest... Look at what I've been saying about Forbes, DDR and LMA

[ElNono]

DDR shot 60%... what else do you guys want from this guy? Meanwhile LMA, the big man that's supposed to score at a high percentage: 38%... 13 points and 6 boards in 31 mins...

[r0drig0lac]

im sorry but the Forbes starting lineup experiment needs to end. I’m getting sick and tired of him being completely useless on D when someone bigger (everyone in the NBA besides Patty) is on him. It’s getting beyond tiresome.



he would NEVER be a starter or would play many minutes on any other team, he is just not good enough to play so many minutes with his lack of size (Lyles, Marco and Mills would not play much on any other team, and that already we have half of the players with more minutes in SA)

[BillMc]

Lyles is the only Spurs at this point who is exceeding expectations. Not another player above projections for the season so far.

[TDomination]

Lyles is the only Spurs at this point who is exceeding expectations. Not another player above projections for the season so far.

yup

hes been great for what he is

[Dex]

Srs? That weak two shots and the ball at that point in the game?

SMH Today's NBA.

I knew it was a flagrant the moment I saw it.

No attempt to make a play on the ball. Wrapped him up at the shoulder level and made contact with the head.

I'm not saying it wasn't a weak call in that moment of the game, or that DeMar really had the intention of hurting anybody...but that is pretty much a by-the-book flagrant foul.

You'd think a "star" who has been in the league so long would know better, but DeRozan continues to find new ways to choke games away.

[Dex]

Lyles is the only Spurs at this point who is exceeding expectations. Not another player above projections for the season so far.

Mills is playing well, all things considered.

Tim got some nice suits, so..that counts for something, right?

[Spurtacular]

I knew it was a flagrant the moment I saw it.

No attempt to make a play on the ball. Wrapped him up at the shoulder level and made contact with the head.

I'm not saying it wasn't a weak call in that moment of the game, or that DeMar really had the intention of hurting anybody...but that is pretty much a by-the-book flagrant foul.

You'd think a "star" who has been in the league so long would know better, but DeRozan continues to find new ways to choke games away.

It was a good hard foul to save the game. I guess I don't mind it called if they're gonna be consistent. No doubt today's NBA is soft though.

[BillMc]

Mills is playing well, all things considered.

Tim got some nice suits, so..that counts for something, right?

Timmy suits are great. Timmy suiting up would be better. :lol

[Fireball]

If you didn’t have words, this would be you post...

Such a wiseguy ... I will always have my three dots ...

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

34-10 free throws and a fake flagrant call

That flagrant call reminds me of the fake bribery nancy says!

lol ducks