It Currently Hurts

[DPG21920]

It's been approximately 25 days since it happened . . . and, honestly, its hurting. It's a pain deep in the soul that feels like I probably won't ever shake. To be this close to such great potential -- only to see it slip through the fingers nightly -- is devastating. Somehow, it seems to hurt more and more as the season progresses as the realization is setting in regarding what exactly this team is.

Sure, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much. It's not something real. It's not a death or some other sort of real life tragedy. But given that following the Spurs is my only hobby in life outside of edgelording in front of a mirror, it's painful. I'm not going to even try to lie. This season hurts.

I've tried turning the tv off mid-meltdown to forget about it. But there I am, in the middle of the house, 3am on SpursTalk in a pitch black room trying to fall asleep, and all that I can see are those DeRozan clutch minutes replaying again and again.

Logically, I know the pain doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just a basketball game. And the Spurs already have five championships. And going into last season, a trip to the 2nd round would have been seen as a great success. Hell, going into the playoffs, I thought getting to 7 games was a success.

Logically, what the Spurs did last year was a great accomplishment. A year ago, if you told me the Spurs would have Dejounte locked up and looking gifted, White breaking out into a real quality player and other youth with actual serious potential to keep this team competitive for another 10 years? I would have been thrilled.

But damn.

This pain doesn't compare to anything else I've experienced in my Spurs fandom. Yeah, seeing Pau and Mills re-signed sucked. Kawhi forcing his way out was tough to swallow. Signing Beli in free agency was unpleasant. The low-ceiling,no defense rotations aren’t fun. Watching Lonnie rot on the bench isn’t enjoyable. But all of those don't even register compared to this. No Murray and White together? Even when the defense is in a downward spiral? That was the only thing on my wishlist and I feel like the joy is being sucked out of me with every passing moment and missed opportunity.

I've had an extremely busy Fall and Winter looks promising. I ordered some pretty stylish winter turtle necks so I have that to look forward to. Life is great -- never better. But what this team is doing continues to haunt me.


I thought going to the Memphis game to see off Tony Parker would provide some sort of relief. The great thing about sports is there is always tomorrow. But I caught another L. I guess that is what you get when you have high hopes .. when you think you can learn to love and trust again. For now, at least, the pain of nearly every game outweighs the excitement of tomorrow. I'm hoping that changes. Starting tonight vs Portland.

[timvp]

:lol









tHe sPuRs nEeD tO mAkE a mOvE nOw i wAnT tO hAvE fUn!

[Mugen]

...where you getting your turtle necks at?

[r0drig0lac]

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[DPG21920]

...where you getting your turtle necks at?

Baby Gap

[DPG21920]

:lol









tHe sPuRs nEeD tO mAkE a mOvE nOw i wAnT tO hAvE fUn!

Correlation vs causation. I want to win, winning is fun, making a move that helps the team win then turns into fun for all!

All I am really asking is if you want to compete for the playoffs, which to me trading for DeRozan, bringing in vets in the off season like Rudy/Carroll and not making any significant changes while playing guys like Beli over the youth is a sign that is the case, then go for it. Don’t have to be stupid and ruin your future or anything, but the team is poorly constructed based on their stars games and they need a jolt.

But, I’m in my feelings and this currently hurts. Can we at least get Murray White together for significant minutes?

[Robz4000]

:bobo

[FkLA]

Baby Gap

:lmao

[Mugen]

Baby Gap

11/10 tbh

[Leetonidas]

Edgelord take

[R. DeMurre]

:lol

[playblair]

some spurs cholo/ms 13 fan needs to punch derozan in traffic like that mexican gangbanger from ohio did to myles garrett..........

[DPG21920]

Edgelord take

Currently driving my Ford Edge, on the way to get me beard edged up and listening to Living on the Edge by Aerosmith.

[RD2191]

Currently driving my Ford Edge, on the way to get me beard edged up and listening to Living on the Edge by Aerosmith.

Fuck, that's edgy.

[DPG21920]

Recording a song called Edge with Lorde next week.

[Robz4000]

:lol I'm on the edge of my seat with this thread

[ZeusWillJudge]

Sometimes the title is so good, I almost don't want to read the thread. This was one of them. :tu

[ginobilized]

Expectations are the harbingers of disappointment. Sports are a great reminder of that.
Enjoy the turtlenecks!

[TD 21]

Correlation vs causation. I want to win, winning is fun, making a move that helps the team win then turns into fun for all!

All I am really asking is if you want to compete for the playoffs, which to me trading for DeRozan, bringing in vets in the off season like Rudy/Carroll and not making any significant changes while playing guys like Beli over the youth is a sign that is the case, then go for it. Don’t have to be stupid and ruin your future or anything, but the team is poorly constructed based on their stars games and they need a jolt.

But, I’m in my feelings and this currently hurts. Can we at least get Murray White together for significant minutes?

He's a blind, brainwashed, cult follower. Him and his merry band of idiots think that because of what happened 5-15 years ago, this organization is above reproach.

Not only do they try to spread their gospel by spewing this nonsense, but they actually have the audacity to question the fandom of those who dare question them by wanting to to see logical, simple changes to improve this embarrassing, pathetic situation they've put themselves in.

Apparently this legion of clowns like the status quo.

[timvp]

He's a blind, brainwashed, cult follower. Him and his merry band of idiots think that because of what happened 5-15 years ago, this organization is above reproach.

Not only do they try to spread their gospel by spewing this nonsense, but they actually have the audacity to question the fandom of those who dare question them by wanting to to see logical, simple changes to improve this embarrassing, pathetic situation they've put themselves in.

Apparently this legion of clowns like the status quo.

Once you've finished shopping at Hot Topic, search my posts and read more closely. You will see that what you typed is incorrect.

Thanks :tu

[Mugen]

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[DPG21920]

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[TD 21]

Once you've finished shopping at Hot Topic, search my posts and read more closely. You will see that what you typed is incorrect.

Thanks :tu

I've seen plenty your posts and read them closely. When there's no readily available spin, there's the occasional micro questioning of your master to attempt to throw those enlightened off the scent, but in the macro sense, it's the same old reciting of his resume anytime his sanity is questioned, which contradicts or undermines the former.

:lmao At taking a shot at a thread of mine, only to use it as a poll question.

[timvp]

I've seen plenty your posts and read them closely. When there's no readily available spin, there's the occasional micro questioning of your master to attempt to throw those enlightened off the scent, but in the macro sense, it's the same old reciting of his resume anytime his sanity is questioned, which contradicts or undermines the former.

:lmao At taking a shot at a thread of mine, only to use it as a poll question.

https://i.imgur.com/fpqVckS.jpg

[TD 21]

https://i.imgur.com/fpqVckS.jpg

That's funny considering it's the antithesis of what I look like . . . but it's not quite as funny as thinking DeRozan's "range starts at 15" (in terms of league hierarchy). :lmao

[timvp]

That's funny considering it's the antithesis of what I look like . . . but it's not quite as funny as thinking DeRozan's "range starts at 15" (in terms of league hierarchy). :lmao

:lol :tu

[Mugen]

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[Robz4000]

Tim vs TD, let's go!!!!!

[timvp]

:lmao Calling the Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Kawhi Leonard Spurs "gutless worms" :lmao

[DPG21920]

https://i.redd.it/nte0dqznzeq31.jpg

[timvp]

They did it again. They probably will win game 7, but who cares? They've had to expend too much energy in the process for it to matter in the long run and if the Trail Blazers wrap it up tonight, they're probably gone in six games. Either way, a championship is no longer realistic, not just because of that, but because of the lack of a top ten player. It's been their Achilles heel all season and it's cost them in this series.

That and the fact that they're a bunch of mentally fragile (heck, post game six, might as well call it, broken) losers. The way they played in game four was beyond embarrassing. Literally were done from the start until Ginobili grabbed them by the scruff of the neck and willed them to survival. The rest all looked terrified from the jump, particularly down the stretch, when it was clear none of them wanted the ball. Then tonight, another predictable collapse down the stretch, filled with more laughable coaching.

This team never had me fooled this season.

:lmao Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Kawhi Leonard were "mentally fragile losers" :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

DeRozan's range starts at 45 tbh..

This team is a joke. And the decisions with and without Kawhi the past 3-4 years (outside of the draft) have been pretty damn close to pathetic.

[Joseph Kony]

https://i.imgur.com/fpqVckS.jpg

:lol did you MS paint the word sniff on there?

[timvp]

:lol did you MS paint the word sniff on there?

:toast

[Collins21]

DeRozan's range starts at 45 tbh..

This team is a joke. And the decisions with and without Kawhi the past 3-4 years (outside of the draft) have been pretty damn close to pathetic.

Yeah because trading DeRozan for Batum would have been a better move as well right? The problem is Pop has made some questionable decisions but if some of y'all were GM this franchise would be even worse.

[Mugen]

:toast

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

sometthing happened during Timvp hiatus, tbh.

Timvp used to be an open minded critic.

Nowadys it feels like hes just here to handout B-,B Grades to Pop and Mills.

Who knows why?...dissapointing tbh

[TD 21]

:lmao
Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Kawhi Leonard were "mentally fragile losers"
:lmao

:lmao Still pretending the Ibaka injury didn't play a significant role in the outcome.


If not for that outcome, people would think of the Spurs this decade a lot differently, because they've repeatedly blown series leads, at home, in series where they were either favored or viewed as a coin flip.

At least that could be explained away as being caught up in the heat of the moment. There's no plausible explanation for "DeRozan's range starts at 15", with the exception of either not following the league, not being nearly as knowledgeable as you think or a combination thereof.



DeRozan's range starts at 45 tbh..

This team is a joke. And the decisions with and without Kawhi the past 3-4 years (outside of the draft) have been pretty damn close to pathetic.

A blast from the past. :toast

[timvp]

sometthing happened during Timvp hiatus, tbh.

Timvp used to be an open minded critic.

Nowadys it feels like hes just here to handout B-,B Grades to Pop and Mills.

Who knows why?...dissapointing tbh

This would be a more effective of an avenue if people couldn't just look up the grades and see you aren't being truthful.

[apalisoc_9]

This would be a more effective of an avenue if people couldn't just look up the grades and see you aren't being truthful.

We all know you have given bad grades to pop, but as a general statement people also know your level of leniency towards him. It has come to a point that it is now somewhat or a running joke around here

[timvp]

:lmao This guy thinks Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were an Ibaka injury away from genuinely earning the label of mentally fragile losers and gutless worms. :lmao



And :lol @ the worst thing the guy can think to use against me is saying DeRozan's range starts at 15 coming off a season he was All-NBA. Okay :lol

[timvp]

We all know you have given bad grades to pop, but as a general statement people also know your level of leniency towards him. It has come to a point that it is now somewhat or a running joke around here

Anything south of advocating finding a tall tree and a short rope for Pop and RC wouldn't be acceptable for the edgelords and the ever-depressed. I've been questioning Pop's moves since preseason while others were marveling at Forbes' redemption arc.

[TD 21]

:lmao This guy thinks Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were an Ibaka injury away from genuinely earning the label of mentally fragile losers and gutless worms. :lmao



And :lol @ the worst thing the guy can think to use against me is saying DeRozan's range starts at 15 coming off a season he was All-NBA. Okay :lol

That's not what I said. But every positive the media thinks about this franchise from the majority of this decade, could easily be viewed through a different lens if not for that.

:lmao At thinking All-NBA automatically = top 15. I don't have time to sift through all your bullshit. Anyone who's spent enough time on this board and isn't a brainwashed cult member, would know it. It doesn't need to be recited.

[benefactor]

Damn...LJ bullying EMOFAGIT 21 in the paint

[benefactor]

And nice work OP:lol:toast

[benefactor]

I can remember when EMOFAGIT 21 started posting here. He'd repeatedly cry and play the post count smack card because no one respected his takes like he thought they should.

:cry you guise don't liek me cuz mah post count :cry

[ElNono]

Currently driving my Ford Edge, on the way to get me beard edged up and listening to Living on the Edge by Aerosmith.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpem4xp9upQ

[Rosewood]

:lol

Thread of the year already.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Currently driving my Ford Edge, on the way to get me beard edged up and listening to Living on the Edge by Aerosmith.


The Edge says, "SFW"

http://pm1.narvii.com/5733/1285c5b83fd0764f0998c8fe124703a0f1569bda_hq.jpg

[Uriel]

OP would've been funny if it weren't true :(

[DPG21920]

Wow. Coming out lifeless again only to blow a 15 point lead at home. The pain. The agony. The anguish. This loss hurt bad.

[Robz4000]

Its crawling in my skin tbh, these wounds they will not heal imo.

[Mugen]

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[DPG21920]

Missing the eye-liner, but otherwise pretty accurate.

[timvp]

Current Hurt Status: 1.6/10

[timtonymanu]

I’ll still take this any day over Game 6, 2013 NBA Finals. At least those guys back then played with passion

[DPG21920]

Current Hurt Status: 1.6/10

You would enjoy this team and roster build :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

You would enjoy this team and roster build :lol

Complacency at its worst.

Wish Malone was bright enough to play Craig at SF from the start of the series, so the Nuggets beat us in 5.

Then Pop maybe wouldnt have been so optimistic about his flawed team.

Ready to turn this page already.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

People on ST have wanted the team to begin tanking since 2009. Now suddenly after a couple of losses it’s apparently the end of the world and everyone’s a gutless worm. How are they going to take a 10 year long losing record run that might be coming up?

Might as well end it all today. :lmao Where’s kobyz?

[FrostKing]

It's been approximately 25 days since it happened . . . and, honestly, its hurting. It's a pain deep in the soul that feels like I probably won't ever shake. To be this close to such great potential -- only to see it slip through the fingers nightly -- is devastating. Somehow, it seems to hurt more and more as the season progresses as the realization is setting in regarding what exactly this team is.

Sure, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much. It's not something real. It's not a death or some other sort of real life tragedy. But given that following the Spurs is my only hobby in life outside of edgelording in front of a mirror, it's painful. I'm not going to even try to lie. This season hurts.

I've tried turning the tv off mid-meltdown to forget about it. But there I am, in the middle of the house, 3am on SpursTalk in a pitch black room trying to fall asleep, and all that I can see are those DeRozan clutch minutes replaying again and again.

Logically, I know the pain doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just a basketball game. And the Spurs already have five championships. And going into last season, a trip to the 2nd round would have been seen as a great success. Hell, going into the playoffs, I thought getting to 7 games was a success.

Logically, what the Spurs did last year was a great accomplishment. A year ago, if you told me the Spurs would have Dejounte locked up and looking gifted, White breaking out into a real quality player and other youth with actual serious potential to keep this team competitive for another 10 years? I would have been thrilled.

But damn.

This pain doesn't compare to anything else I've experienced in my Spurs fandom. Yeah, seeing Pau and Mills re-signed sucked. Kawhi forcing his way out was tough to swallow. Signing Beli in free agency was unpleasant. The low-ceiling,no defense rotations aren’t fun. Watching Lonnie rot on the bench isn’t enjoyable. But all of those don't even register compared to this. No Murray and White together? Even when the defense is in a downward spiral? That was the only thing on my wishlist and I feel like the joy is being sucked out of me with every passing moment and missed opportunity.

I've had an extremely busy Fall and Winter looks promising. I ordered some pretty stylish winter turtle necks so I have that to look forward to. Life is great -- never better. But what this team is doing continues to haunt me.


I thought going to the Memphis game to see off Tony Parker would provide some sort of relief. The great thing about sports is there is always tomorrow. But I caught another L. I guess that is what you get when you have high hopes .. when you think you can learn to love and trust again. For now, at least, the pain of nearly every game outweighs the excitement of tomorrow. I'm hoping that changes. Starting tonight vs Portland.
Mediocrity especially declining is the worst fan position. You should lower your expectations and come to grips that more than likely the franchise will have less success especially consistently when the rest of the old guard is gone. There are no Championships on the horizon or even deep playoff runs. Just occasional small reminders here and there of what use to be. Then it's entirely gone and you rebuild (which usually fails atleast once).

Listen here though. You live in the sports capital of the World. There are tons of sports options. I have roughly 7 major team sports I watch and if one team sucks I just invest time in another. This is supposed to be enjoyment. Time and life is too short to dwell over athletes. Some of the funnest times I had as a fan was discovering a new sport.

[AaronY]

Baby Gap
Rofl

[DPG21920]

People on ST have wanted the team to begin tanking since 2009. Now suddenly after a couple of losses it’s apparently the end of the world and everyone’s a gutless worm. How are they going to take a 10 year long losing record run that might be coming up?

Might as well end it all today. :lmao Where’s kobyz?

They kind of have been playing like gutless worms tbh. Finally after people saying it it came true lol. Broken clock etc.


But SA has enough promising youth already that they shouldn’t be some bottom dweller even once Derozan and LMA are gone imo.

[Trill Clinton]

It's been approximately 25 days since it happened . . . and, honestly, its hurting. It's a pain deep in the soul that feels like I probably won't ever shake. To be this close to such great potential -- only to see it slip through the fingers nightly -- is devastating. Somehow, it seems to hurt more and more as the season progresses as the realization is setting in regarding what exactly this team is.

Sure, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much. It's not something real. It's not a death or some other sort of real life tragedy. But given that following the Spurs is my only hobby in life outside of edgelording in front of a mirror, it's painful. I'm not going to even try to lie. This season hurts.

I've tried turning the tv off mid-meltdown to forget about it. But there I am, in the middle of the house, 3am on SpursTalk in a pitch black room trying to fall asleep, and all that I can see are those DeRozan clutch minutes replaying again and again.

Logically, I know the pain doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just a basketball game. And the Spurs already have five championships. And going into last season, a trip to the 2nd round would have been seen as a great success. Hell, going into the playoffs, I thought getting to 7 games was a success.

Logically, what the Spurs did last year was a great accomplishment. A year ago, if you told me the Spurs would have Dejounte locked up and looking gifted, White breaking out into a real quality player and other youth with actual serious potential to keep this team competitive for another 10 years? I would have been thrilled.

But damn.

This pain doesn't compare to anything else I've experienced in my Spurs fandom. Yeah, seeing Pau and Mills re-signed sucked. Kawhi forcing his way out was tough to swallow. Signing Beli in free agency was unpleasant. The low-ceiling,no defense rotations aren’t fun. Watching Lonnie rot on the bench isn’t enjoyable. But all of those don't even register compared to this. No Murray and White together? Even when the defense is in a downward spiral? That was the only thing on my wishlist and I feel like the joy is being sucked out of me with every passing moment and missed opportunity.

I've had an extremely busy Fall and Winter looks promising. I ordered some pretty stylish winter turtle necks so I have that to look forward to. Life is great -- never better. But what this team is doing continues to haunt me.


I thought going to the Memphis game to see off Tony Parker would provide some sort of relief. The great thing about sports is there is always tomorrow. But I caught another L. I guess that is what you get when you have high hopes .. when you think you can learn to love and trust again. For now, at least, the pain of nearly every game outweighs the excitement of tomorrow. I'm hoping that changes. Starting tonight vs Portland.

brilliant

[TD 21]

I can remember when EMOFAGIT 21 started posting here. He'd repeatedly cry and play the post count smack card because no one respected his takes like he thought they should.

:cry
you guise don't liek me cuz mah post count :cry


I faced up, took two power dribbles right, spun back left, pump faked and dunked right on his head with authority, Duncan on Gasol style circa '12.

You had to know the fat boy was just around the corner. When he saw his master in a "squabble", he couldn't resist waddling in here, slovenly as ever, tongue firmly entrenched in his master's ass, resorting to his pathetic, played out 80s schoolyard tactics.

Now all that's left is Chump, Dex and coachmac and it'll be like old times . . .



People on ST have wanted the team to begin tanking since 2009. Now suddenly after a couple of losses it’s apparently the end of the world and everyone’s a gutless worm. How are they going to take a 10 year long losing record run that might be coming up?

Might as well end it all today. :lmao Where’s kobyz?

This isn't then, when they had a legendary core with some gas still left in the tank. This team doesn't have that, doesn't fit and is completely out of touch with the modern NBA. All we're asking for is sensible moves. The team could easily be better with them. If not and they really go in the tank, that's fine too.

Losing is fine as long as it's being done right, so that the organization puts themselves in the best possible position for the future. The shit we're being subjected to right now isn't fine.

[timvp]

That's not what I said.How can it not be what you said? I just copy and pasted your own words :lmao

You called Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers ... and it's not like you did it one time in the heat of battle. You did it repeatedly over the course of about eight years -- and it's all documented in that one thread. You should be embarrassed.

Why do you even follow the Spurs, tbh? If you were miserable during The Golden Years, there will literally never be a time when you're not miserable. Unless you enjoy being miserable, I don't understand it.



But every positive the media thinks about this franchise from the majority of this decade, could easily be viewed through a different lens if not for that.

:lol Trying to deflect blame to the media for calling Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.


:lmao At thinking All-NBA automatically = top 15.

That's some impressively poor comprehension, even for someone who thought Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.

After a season in which DeRozan got named to the second team All-NBA, which would indicate that he's a top ten player in the league, I said his range starts at 15. Saying that wasn't a compliment, it's saying that his placement on the All-NBA second team was erroneously high. Again, if that's the worst thing you got on me, that's pretty impressive, tbh :lol


I faced up, took two power dribbles right, spun back left, pump faked and dunked right on his head with authority, Duncan on Gasol style circa '12.:lmao Trying to desperately backpedal and pretend you rooted for Duncan after claiming Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers repeatedly over as span of eight years. It's too late. You were rooting for Gasol back in 2012. Admit it.


Now all that's left is Chump, Dex and coachmac and it'll be like old times . . .


Which old times you talking about? The old times where you said Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?

[spurspl]

i told u months ago that spurs will suck and not even make PO. Majority of u were laughing at me and saying that spurs are contender, that murray will be great and MIP, that pop is great and im crazy saying he should retire etc.

[TD 21]

How can it not be what you said? I just copy and pasted your own words :lmao

You called Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers ... and it's not like you did it one time in the heat of battle. You did it repeatedly over the course of about eight years -- and it's all documented in that one thread. You should be embarrassed.

Why do you even follow the Spurs, tbh? If you were miserable during The Golden Years, there will literally never be a time when you're not miserable. Unless you enjoy being miserable, I don't understand it.




:lol Trying to deflect blame to the media for calling Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.



That's some impressively poor comprehension, even for someone who thought Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.

After a season in which DeRozan got named to the second team All-NBA, which would indicate that he's a top ten player in the league, I said his range starts at 15. Saying that wasn't a compliment, it's saying that his placement on the All-NBA second team was erroneously high. Again, if that's the worst thing you got on me, that's pretty impressive, tbh :lol

:lmao Trying to desperately backpedal and pretend you rooted for Duncan after claiming Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers repeatedly over as span of eight years. It's too late. You were rooting for Gasol back in 2012. Admit it.




Which old times you talking about? The old times where you said Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?


Nah, you're intentionally being obtuse, twisting my words and acting like a brat because I branded you a brainwashed cult member and have repeatedly exposed you over the years both for being arrogant and not nearly as knowledgeable as you like to pretend to your worshippers.

Now you're repeating a line that you think is sure to get your worshippers and others to fall in line to distract from those facts.

You absolutely tried to pretend All-NBA = top 15 and are now bizarely doubling down on it while simultaneously arguing otherwise. It doesn't indicate that he was a top 10 player and the fact that you think it does speaks to what I was saying. (DeAndre) Jordan, Noah, Dragic, Lee, etc. in recent memory have all made All-NBA, some of which 1st team. Were they top 5-10 players too? :lmao

[timvp]

Nah, you're intentionally being obtuse, twisting my words
? They are your words.

Alright, let's make this simple. Answer this one question: Are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers? I'm not asking about the media interpretation or however you try to spin your emotional outbursts over the years. I'm asking you straight up. Simple question.


I branded you a brainwashed cult member and have repeatedly exposed you over the years both for being arrogant and not nearly as knowledgeable as you like to pretend to your worshippers.I realize the occult is a hot topic at Hot Topic but please try to at least vary your insults. The flow chart of who is in a cult and who is being worshipped by which cult is getting confusing, tbh.

[TD 21]

? They are your words.

Alright, let's make this simple. Answer this one question: Are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers? I'm not asking about the media interpretation or however you try to spin your emotional outbursts over the years. I'm asking you straight up. Simple question.

I realize the occult is a hot topic at Hot Topic but please try to at least vary your insults. The flow chart of who is in a cult and who is being worshipped by which cult is getting confusing, tbh.

I didn't say the Ibaka injury determined their "legacy". I just said, if not for that, they very well might have lost and had they, the organization wouldn't be thought of the same way. That fortune paved the way for 5, which has obscured their playoff track record.

You already told me various times that I thought they were . . . are you going to keep plagiarizing me?

Nah, it's simple. Maybe you're just getting senile.

[DPG21920]

timvp: direct question - what do you think would happen to the Spurs chances of making the playoffs if they traded Derozan? Let’s assume it won’t be for a Kawhi like player, but either a strong role player (let’s say Danny Green type) + pick or even the Aaron Gordon for Derozan swap.


Would their playoff hopes take a big hit? Would they improve? Or not much of a difference?

[timvp]

I didn't say the Ibaka injury determined their "legacy". I just said, if not for that, they very well might have lost and had they, the organization wouldn't be thought of the same way. That fortune paved the way for 5, which has obscured their playoff track record.

You already told me various times that I thought they were . . . are you going to keep plagiarizing me?

Nah, it's simple. Maybe you're just getting senile.

:lmao Way to answer the question.

Let's try it again. You can answer with one word, if you so choose.

Are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?

[timvp]

timvp: direct question - what do you think would happen to the Spurs chances of making the playoffs if they traded Derozan? Let’s assume it won’t be for a Kawhi like player, but either a strong role player (let’s say Danny Green type) + pick or even the Aaron Gordon for Derozan swap.


Would their playoff hopes take a big hit? Would they improve? Or not much of a difference?

I didn't say the DeRozan injury determined their "legacy". I just said, if not for that, the cult you worship, is worshipping you, at Hot Topic they told me, they very well might have lost and had they, my wrist scars never heal, the organization wouldn't ... :lol

Seriously though, DeRozan for Gordon ... I'd say chances stay the same to slightly increase assuming Gordon is played at PF and not SF and White eats up some of the minutes DeRozan leaves behind.

DeRozan for Danny Green? Decrease just because there'd be a very real chance the team couldn't generate enough points.

[GAustex]

How can it not be what you said? I just copy and pasted your own words :lmao

You called Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers ... and it's not like you did it one time in the heat of battle. You did it repeatedly over the course of about eight years -- and it's all documented in that one thread. You should be embarrassed.

Why do you even follow the Spurs, tbh? If you were miserable during The Golden Years, there will literally never be a time when you're not miserable. Unless you enjoy being miserable, I don't understand it.




:lol Trying to deflect blame to the media for calling Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.



That's some impressively poor comprehension, even for someone who thought Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers.

After a season in which DeRozan got named to the second team All-NBA, which would indicate that he's a top ten player in the league, I said his range starts at 15. Saying that wasn't a compliment, it's saying that his placement on the All-NBA second team was erroneously high. Again, if that's the worst thing you got on me, that's pretty impressive, tbh :lol

:lmao Trying to desperately backpedal and pretend you rooted for Duncan after claiming Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers repeatedly over as span of eight years. It's too late. You were rooting for Gasol back in 2012. Admit it.




Which old times you talking about? The old times where you said Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard were gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?
Well
Mess with the bull
You get the horn

[DPG21920]

I didn't say the DeRozan injury determined their "legacy". I just said, if not for that, the cult you worship, is worshipping you, at Hot Topic they told me, they very well might have lost and had they, my wrist scars never heal, the organization wouldn't ... :lol

Seriously though, DeRozan for Gordon ... I'd say chances stay the same to slightly increase assuming Gordon is played at PF and not SF and White eats up some of the minutes DeRozan leaves behind.

DeRozan for Danny Green? Decrease just because there'd be a very real chance the team couldn't generate enough points.

Was that first part for me?


But on the Danny Green part - didn’t mean him, but someone like him who is maybe more in their prime. You don’t think the defensive gains + spacing would be worth it?

[Slippy]

It's like 96/97 again. That sums up how I'm feeling. That year they had and excuse with injuries. This year the roster that was built and coach not being able to utilise them is the reason. It's become a joke tbh

Oh and Nique the human highlight reel was much more fun to watch than the Da choker.

[spurs10]

Responding to this thread I'd have to say that I used to wear turtlenecks. I don't know what happened to change that...??? I just don't know!!!



Off topic, but does anyone think 20,000 people chanting "Ref You Suck, Refs You Suck...." helps them in deciding the game in our the other team's favor? In the old days a gram of coke probably would have helped, but I don't know what refs like anymore. Does anyone have a sister that would...like 'take one for the team?'

[timvp]

Was that first part for me?Twas a joke, mon amie.



But on the Danny Green part - didn’t mean him, but someone like him who is maybe more in their prime. You don’t think the defensive gains + spacing would be worth it?Well, you'd have to give me a name.

[DPG21920]

Twas a joke, mon amie.


Well, you'd have to give me a name.

Otto Porter? He’s expensive but I view him as an elite role player. Bulls struggling maybe they’d be interested in Derozan?

[sasaint]

Should have dealt for OPJ last season.

[timvp]

Otto Porter? He’s expensive but I view him as an elite role player. Bulls struggling maybe they’d be interested in Derozan?

Spurs would be worse off with Otto Porter than DeRozan ... by quite a bit actually. He hasn't looked good this season.

[rascal]

Expectations for this season were too high for most in here. Most thought everyone on the team would improve and the team would be closer to the top of the conference than the bottom.

[DPG21920]

Spurs would be worse off with Otto Porter than DeRozan ... by quite a bit actually. He hasn't looked good this season.

Interesting. Yeah, he has not been good, but has DeRozan? No hope that OPJ skillset would fit better therefore SA would realize gains?

[TD 21]

:lmao Way to answer the question.

Let's try it again. You can answer with one word, if you so choose.

Are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?

It's already been answered . . . but keep evading the two I asked you.

:lmao At not seeing the irony of calling me out for "emotional outbursts", while in a thread designed to make light of your own emotional outburst.

[timvp]

It's already been answeredWhere?

Again, are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?


. . . but keep evading the two I asked you.

Where?

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

It's already been answered . . . but keep evading the two I asked you.

:lmao At not seeing the irony of calling me out for "emotional outbursts", while in a thread designed to make light of your own emotional outburst.

i guess it’s difficult for TD21 to talk out of his ass when timvp’s dick is in there ...

[TD 21]

Where?

Again, are Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers?



Where?




At least that could be explained away as being caught up in the heat of the moment.







(DeAndre) Jordan, Noah, Dragic, Lee, etc. in recent memory have all made All-NBA, some of which 1st team. Were they top 5-15 players too? :lmao





are you going to keep plagiarizing me?

[timvp]

So after 8 years of bumping a thread calling Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers you finally admit that you were wrong the whole 8 years? Congrats. Glad you finally see the light. Took a while but now that you see the grass isn't greener, you appreciate what you had. Well done and I'm sorry I couldn't get through to you sooner. Hopefully you still had fun during the ride :tu

Regarding your first question, we must be having some sort of misunderstanding. I said DeRozan's range started at 15 ... which means he was not a top 15 player. You seem to think me saying his range started at 15 means he was a top 15 player. To translate it better, "DeRozan's range starts at 15" means "DeRozan isn't a top 15 player, he's comparable to the players after that."

Plagiarizing you? All I did was quote you saying Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard are gutless worms and mentally fragile losers from that thread of yours. A direct quote with attribution isn't plagiarizing.

[DPG21920]

Twas a joke, mon amie.


Well, you'd have to give me a name.

So I know you’ve said you think I am looking at the non-quantifiable things a little too much. Were you surprised to hear Pop is looking at the same things:



Popovich gave a laundry list before the Portland game regarding what the Spurs are missing.
"We’re looking for consistent competitiveness, consistent execution, some leadership," the coach said. "Because we haven’t had much in any of those three categories on a consistent basis. It’s been spotty here and there. You see it. But it’s got to be way more consistent, and that’s the truth

[TD 21]

So after 8 years of bumping a thread calling Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard gutless worms and mentally fragile losers you finally admit that you were wrong the whole 8 years? Congrats. Glad you finally see the light. Took a while but now that you see the grass isn't greener, you appreciate what you had. Well done and I'm sorry I couldn't get through to you sooner. Hopefully you still had fun during the ride :tu

Regarding your first question, we must be having some sort of misunderstanding. I said DeRozan's range started at 15 ... which means he was not a top 15 player. You seem to think me saying his range started at 15 means he was a top 15 player. To translate it better, "DeRozan's range starts at 15" means "DeRozan isn't a top 15 player, he's comparable to the players after that."

Plagiarizing you? All I did was quote you saying Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and Leonard are gutless worms and mentally fragile losers from that thread of yours. A direct quote with attribution isn't plagiarizing.

Without sifting through it, I'm pretty sure I haven't bumped that thread in years. The many times it's been done in that span, it's been others. By the way, Scumbag is a gutless worm.

I did have fun, I just wanted the biggest 3 to get rewarded one last time for doing everything in their power to do so and even though I knew they were capable of still leading the charge, I was concerned that something would always conspire against them.

Maybe so, but it's still an asinine comment. He's never been anywhere near that caliber of player. No player in at least this era has benefitted from circumstances to accumulate so many accomplishments.

You mocked the timing of my Murray and White thread, only to have a poll question about it down the side of someone's article from your site. You also took much of what I said from the Magic interested in DeRozan thread and applied it in your analysis.