***OFFICIAL Week 12 Game Thread, Sponsored By Andy's Mom's nutsack

[Millennial_Messiah]

:cry Kittle
Best tight end in the NFL.

Kelce is the runner up but he wouldn't have scored there, likely would have been stopped around the 10. Kittle has legit WR speed.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

So the strategy for the Packers defense is to not defend the best receiver (TE) on the 49ers' roster. Got it. The Packers are screwed.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I love the 49ers this year. Always fun to watch GB lose.

[phxspurfan]

Packers getting all the calls

[Millennial_Messiah]

Hey Robz4000 I'm sorry about what I said earlier I just wanted to take out today's ending on someone. I didn't mean what I said

[Millennial_Messiah]

Packers getting all the calls
And they're still going to lose. Haha.

49ers have been just such a well composed team all season long. I'd be happy if they won the championship this year, tbh. As long as it's not New England.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

This game went how a expected to go tbh. On to the next one.

[Robz4000]

Hey Robz4000 I'm sorry about what I said earlier I just wanted to take out today's ending on someone. I didn't mean what I said

:lol this happens every week with you so it's all good

[Millennial_Messiah]

49ers are a fun team to watch. Glad 49ers/Seahawks rivalry is back, looks like the golden age all over again.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol this happens every week with you so it's all good
like, it's 10pm, I'm still upset about the way that game ended but it is what it is at this point, and I'm happy about how the night game went, so I'm definitely not skipping work or anything lol.

Cowboys are still gonna win that division, pretty much a guaranteed playoff birth because have you seen how bad the Eagles offense has been? so the team, with a lot of free agents to be including the QB1, HC, WR1 and CB1, will be ultimately judged on how they do in the playoffs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol bet you Malcolm Jenkins would start a riot at the "Turkey Bowl"... vegan faggot tbh

[AlexJones]

A lot of people will call GB frauds but I disagree. Practically every NFC playoff team except Minnesota and SF are overrated. No elite teams

[Fat Brandon Bass]

:lol Belichick mindfucking The Bot on that back-to-back punting penalty sequence was hilarious. First, they run the strange formation where nobody was back to receive it....Bot gets confused and just takes a delay of game. Then the Pats do it again and the Cowboys clumsily rush their gunners in to block but get an illegal shift and march it back another five yards.

[Millennial_Messiah]

A lot of people will call GB frauds but I disagree. Practically every NFC playoff team except Minnesota and SF are overrated. No elite teams
but if you think Minnesota is good, then GB is a pretender... there can only be one from the given division

[Millennial_Messiah]

problem for minnesota is if they lose in seattle next week almost impossible to win the division even if they beat the packers Week 16.

[FrostKing]

I'm doin it

2012 vs 2019
49ers

Who you got...

[Robz4000]

I'm doin it

2012 vs 2019
49ers

Who you got...

2012 Niners only due to experience and Frank Gore. This current Niner team will be even better next year.

[spurraider21]

2012 Niners only due to experience and Frank Gore. This current Niner team will be even better next year.
that niners D's front was a lot more physical too. willis/bowman/brooks playing behind animals like justin/aldon smith.

[Robz4000]

that niners D's front was a lot more physical too. willis/bowman/brooks playing behind animals like justin/aldon smith.

God I miss Navarro Bowman. He's the leader this defense is missing.

[spurraider21]

God I miss Navarro Bowman. He's the leader this defense is missing.
chris borland coulda been that guy tbh

[FrostKing]

Yah on second thought I think it kinda isn't even close. Those 3-straight NFC Title Game Niners are underrated in historical sense. Almost very much so. But that is what occurs with average QB play.

How many offensive players from 2019 start on the 2011 or 2012 team? Jimmy obviously but Kittle isn't an enormous upgrade over Vernon & Walker. Even at FB Miller was pro bowl caliber.

Defensively as spurraiderer mentioned the physicality - Whitner. I haven't watched enough 49er games recently to fully comment but seems Donte, Goldson and Rogers are tough to beat in comparison. But that secondary was over-powered against the run and struggled against Eli and Flacco.

In hindsight how ironic that the team that actually broke thru into the SB was the weakest W-L at 11-5-1

Maybe underrated edge - Shanahan over Harbaugh? Kyle seems far more innovative while Jim was focused on installing an attitude & confidence

[spurraider21]

imo the 2011 niners would have also beaten the patriots if ted ginn didnt get hurt, leading to 2 kyle williams muffs/fumbles

[FrostKing]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/10/13/75/2146155/15/rawImage.jpg

[Robz4000]

chris borland coulda been that guy tbh

What could've been.

[Ed Lover]

Dline is better now whereas the LB's were better in 2012. Niners Dline has more sacks now, collectively, than the 12' Dline had in the entire season. This years D also already has more sacks (39) than the entire 12' team had over the full season (38.) Shanahan > Harbaugh. RBBC > Gore. Kittle > VD. Jimmy > Kunta Kinte. 12' Oline > 19'. 19' Secondary (11 picks so far) > 12' (14 total). Defensive scheme is better this year, too. Niners usually rush 4 and drop everyone else back. In 12' it was a 3-4 and functioned a lot differently. Finally, the 19' team has already forced more fumbles (16) than the 12' team did (14.)

So yeah, on paper and the eye test I think this year is better. However, the NFC is much stronger this season and the Niners may not even win a playoff game, much less make the SB. Also, running Qbs are their kryptonite. Be very interesting to see if Saleh has learned anything from Kyler Murray and, to a lesser extent, RW running all over the place against them. They play the Ravens next week. Lamar reminds me a lot of Kraep, and even has Greg Roman as his OC. Roman was also the OC in 12'. I expect Lamar to crash and burn in the same way as BLM did as his career goes on.

Edit: Roman was the Niner OC in 12'.

[Ed Lover]

God I miss Navarro Bowman. He's the leader this defense is missing.

You misspelled Patrick Willis. Bowman was great but Willis was the leader

Edit: Sherman is doing just fine leading them, imo.

[Ed Lover]

that niners D's front was a lot more physical too.

You're retarded. You're also a Raider fan. Makes sense

[Robz4000]

You misspelled Patrick Willis. Bowman was great but Willis was the leader

Edit: Sherman is doing just fine leading them, imo.

Patrick Willis was the best player, but Bowman was the one who really saw things before they happened and directed everyone before/during play.

[Ed Lover]

Patrick Willis was the best player, but Bowman was the one who really saw things before they happened and directed everyone before/during play.

Willis was the defensive captain. He was the leader and best player. He ran that defense. I respectfully disagree

[spurraider21]

You're retarded. You're also a Raider fan. Makes sense
c'mon son

you can do better than that

[spurraider21]

2019 offense is cleaner, better executing than 2011 had. as robz said, the reliability of frank gore was nice, esp running behind staley and prime iupati. but its not like we've really seen the niners struggling getting that yard. juszczyk and kittle are elite blockers in their own right (so was vernon).

ed lover points out that this D struggles with running qb's but thats where the linebackers i i brought up would come in handy. i just said their front was more physical back in 2011, not that the team was better top to bottom

[Ed Lover]

ed lover points out that this D struggles with running qb's but thats where the linebackers i i brought up would come in handy. i just said their front was more physical back in 2011, not that the team was better top to bottom

Agree about the LB's. 3-4 is much better at containing that type of threat. I still disagree about the physical take. In a 3-4 all those guys really need to do up front is occupy blockers and space, while the LB's make the plays. Remember that Aldon was an outside LB in that scheme rather than a classic edge rusher. While he would occasionally get down in a 3 point stance, he was mostly upright and would move from side to side depending on the situation. I actually had to go and look up the names of the Niner front 3 that year. Isaac Sopoaga, Ray McDonald, and Justin Smith. Smith was definitely nasty, but the other guys were just there to be fat and take up space. Smith had also lost a step by then and wasn't what he was. Imo, you can't say they were more physical when this years bunch is so much more productive. They fuckin eat Olines alive. Bosa has 7 sacks. Armstead has 8. Dee Ford has 6.5 (and didn't play last night,) while Buckner has 5. Who do you double? It's the best Dline in the NFL, hands down. Bosa absolutely trucked that poor RT twice last night, and they made ARod look old and slow... While blitzing on maybe 10% of the plays, if not less. If they stay healthy and stay together they have the potential to be all time great.

[Ed Lover]

Nobody has contained them, only tricked them. Kingsbury and his faggot gimmick offense, which does all kinds of misdirection stuff, along with their midget, overrated QB, were perfect for the overly aggressive Niner D. I'll give him credit for exploiting them. Twice. Seahawks also did well, so the template is there. Screens, quick releases, misdirection, and good ole unpredictable ninja ball where the QB does some athletic, Serengeti type shit, can exploit this. Which is why the Ravens game is must see TV. I actually think the Ravens will win, tbh. Early, east coast start plus Lamar might be too much unless the Niners get out in front> Think Saleh has to blitz a lot more, particularly from the edge, if the Niners want to win.

Niner initial push is as good as I've seen in a while. All four of those guys were often 2-3 yards in the backfield at the same time last night, and every time I watch them. Would kill for that type of tenacity on my teams Dline

[FrostKing]

Finally watching highlights, had work

#17 for GB scores to make it 6-23 and he's fuckin dancing. :lol what a scrub

So cringe. His lineman is standing there waiting for him to get his tiny brain back in the game

[FrostKing]

Nobody has contained them, only tricked them. Kingsbury and his faggot gimmick offense, which does all kinds of misdirection stuff, along with their midget, overrated QB, were perfect for the overly aggressive Niner D. I'll give him credit for exploiting them. Twice. Seahawks also did well, so the template is there. Screens, quick releases, misdirection, and good ole unpredictable ninja ball where the QB does some athletic, Serengeti type shit, can exploit this. Which is why the Ravens game is must see TV. I actually think the Ravens will win, tbh. Early, east coast start plus Lamar might be too much unless the Niners get out in front> Think Saleh has to blitz a lot more, particularly from the edge, if the Niners want to win.

Niner initial push is as good as I've seen in a while. All four of those guys were often 2-3 yards in the backfield at the same time last night, and every time I watch them. Would kill for that type of tenacity on my teams Dline
Ravens will likely win for the reasons you stated plus the game is sandwiched between two NFC hurdles. I only ask for 2/3 in this gauntlet. But lose the finale in Seattle and these games are all but pointless.

Justin Smith wasn't the same after tearing his triceps against the Patriots. NE made a big come back falling short and the defense in general was never the same in 2012, had to outscore opponents. Which is argument in favor of Harbaugh making the QB switch.

[Ed Lover]

Harbaugh making the QB switch.

I remember thinking he had to as well back then. But I also remember thinking that Kaep would get found out... And so he did. The Ravens are incredibly similar to that Niner team, and will end up having the same problems. Eventually there will be enough film, and there's no way in hell the Pats will make the same mistakes twice should they meet again in the playoffs. At Foxboro. In January. Ravens strength, as usual, is on their O/D lines and controlling the ball. But if they get behind and can't run...

That said, I haven't seen the Ravens that much this year and I have a bias against running QB's. History backs me up in this bias. Lamar will eventually have to play from behind and win a game with his arm when its do or die. i don't think he can. I also think they've been the beneficiary of a shitty AFC north and getting some favorable scheduling. I might be wrong but I doubt it. Be interesting to see how the Rams fare against them tonight. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they win. Rams D is still very, very good. They just have Goff and a wholly inferior Oline to what they had last year. lol, imagine paying Jared Goff all that money

[FrostKing]

I remember thinking he had to as well back then. But I also remember thinking that Kaep would get found out... And so he did. The Ravens are incredibly similar to that Niner team, and will end up having the same problems. Eventually there will be enough film, and there's no way in hell the Pats will make the same mistakes twice should they meet again in the playoffs. At Foxboro. In January. Ravens strength, as usual, is on their O/D lines and controlling the ball. But if they get behind and can't run...

That said, I haven't seen the Ravens that much this year and I have a bias against running QB's. History backs me up in this bias. Lamar will eventually have to play from behind and win a game with his arm when its do or die. i don't think he can. I also think they've been the beneficiary of a shitty AFC north and getting some favorable scheduling. I might be wrong but I doubt it. Be interesting to see how the Rams fare against them tonight. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they win. Rams D is still very, very good. They just have Goff and a wholly inferior Oline to what they had last year. lol, imagine paying Jared Goff all that money
Kaepernick had an unorthodox baseball throwing motion that he supposedly worked to fix but he ultimately lacked touch on his passes. It was all fastballs. He especially struggled on throws along the sidelines which made those constant end zone fades moronic. I remember a 49er fan broke down the data and Kaep to Crabtree fade route in the end zone had awful success rate. But they keep running that crap and in the most important playoff moments.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Gay Matthews still getting buttfucked in the read option like it's Kaepernick 2012 GB vs SF.

[Millennial_Messiah]

2019 offense is cleaner, better executing than 2011 had. as robz said, the reliability of frank gore was nice, esp running behind staley and prime iupati. but its not like we've really seen the niners struggling getting that yard. juszczyk and kittle are elite blockers in their own right (so was vernon).

ed lover points out that this D struggles with running qb's but thats where the linebackers i i brought up would come in handy. i just said their front was more physical back in 2011, not that the team was better top to bottom
the DL is better and deeper this year, the LBs were better in 2011-2013. the secondary, better this year. Offense better this year. Alex Smith offenses can be stopped with man and hard flat defense because he won't beat you deep. Kaepernick was tougher to stop because he could do everything... run, scramble, throw short, throw deep, but his accuracy was really inconsistent which ultimately hurt the Niners at critical times.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I remember thinking he had to as well back then. But I also remember thinking that Kaep would get found out... And so he did. The Ravens are incredibly similar to that Niner team, and will end up having the same problems. Eventually there will be enough film, and there's no way in hell the Pats will make the same mistakes twice should they meet again in the playoffs. At Foxboro. In January. Ravens strength, as usual, is on their O/D lines and controlling the ball. But if they get behind and can't run...

That said, I haven't seen the Ravens that much this year and I have a bias against running QB's. History backs me up in this bias. Lamar will eventually have to play from behind and win a game with his arm when its do or die. i don't think he can. I also think they've been the beneficiary of a shitty AFC north and getting some favorable scheduling. I might be wrong but I doubt it. Be interesting to see how the Rams fare against them tonight. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they win. Rams D is still very, very good. They just have Goff and a wholly inferior Oline to what they had last year. lol, imagine paying Jared Goff all that money

maybe not... Ravens win the tiebreaker so they just need to finish with the same number of losses. Patriots still have the texans and chiefs

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seriously, how hard can it be to commit to stopping the run? It's not rocket science

[AlexJones]

This is a black mans league

[spurraider21]

goff looks so bad tbh... they look completely unable to take advantage of their WR talent

[spurraider21]

goff finally stringing together some good throws into the teeth of the defense. they really need to make use of cooks... they gave up a first round pick and gave him a contract

[Millennial_Messiah]

Marcus Peters :lol ... needs to shut up tbh.

"FALSE START! FALSE START! FALSE START! YEAH MOTHERFUCKER! FALSE START! FALSE START!"

[Millennial_Messiah]

this effectively eliminates the Rams from playoff contention. that division alone is a problem.

seahawks, 49ers, saints, cowboys, vikings, packers. Not much drama of who will get in this year tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

1) Seahawks
2) Saints
3) Packers
4) Cowboys
5) 49ers
6) Vikings

the rest of the NFC sucks.

[Chinook]

Jackson's not even people right now.

[spurraider21]

i was a big doubter of jackson after how last season ended... open mouth, insert foot

[AlexJones]

Seahawks are one and done

[FrostKing]

This is a black mans league
Two best teams are MAGA

But yes this is increasingly an inner city sport which is scary because the NFL has always been a lil domestic League

[Chinook]

i was a big doubter of jackson after how last season ended... open mouth, insert foot

You're stand-up about it though. A number of folks have deleted posts in that Jackson/Vick thread. There's no shame in not thinking Jackson would be this good of a passer already -- I certainly didn't believe it until training camp. Someone must've crushed Android 16's head in front of Lamar this off-season. Ever since that Seattle game, he's been on a tear.

[Clipper Nation]

I still need to see Lamar not shit the bed in the playoffs before I buy in, tbh. I actually liked him as a prospect coming out of Louisville but that playoff performance last year gave me some serious doubts.

[DAF86]

Ravens are pussies. They are playing on easy mode.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/2cW4hWB/EKQkd-Tb-Xs-AAcp8t.jpg

Demarcus Ware?

Off the top of my head Charles Haley instead

[Millennial_Messiah]

Trump should have Lamar Jackson build The Wall, tbh.

[DAF86]

Why blow the whistle there? Just let the play run and then call what you saw so that, in case of reversing the call, you don't screw a team over.

[FrostKing]

How do you guys feel about all this dancing?

I think it is major turn off in comparison to MLB & NHL. Watching a dude grind and twerk...

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why blow the whistle there? Just let the play run and then call what you saw so that, in case of reversing the call, you don't screw a team over.

Saints/Rams week 3

I agree 100%

[Millennial_Messiah]

4th & 4, score 35-6, go for it, convert with a huge gain

HarBALLS :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

Props to Booger McFarland :tu going off on the league and the refs over the bogus tripping calls yesterday.

[Chinook]

Really don't love the Ravens running up the score. It shows they clearly care about the MVP race.

[resistanze]

Really don't love the Ravens running up the score. It shows they clearly care about the MVP race.

Meh, it's the beginning of the 4th and Jackson won't play another snap after this drive. No problem imo.

[DAF86]

Really don't love the Ravens running up the score. It shows they clearly care about the MVP race.

6 drives, 6 TD's. Every coach should love that kind of tidiness.

[FrostKing]

Team photos :elephant

Use to get clobbered for spiking the ball midfield

Celebrations longer than actual plays

[Millennial_Messiah]

Meh, it's the beginning of the 4th and Jackson won't play another snap after this drive. No problem imo.

I don't honestly think there's a huge drop off in the offense with RG3. Assuming his knee is right.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Team photos :elephant

Use to get clobbered for spiking the ball midfield
TO got clobbered because he spiked the ball on the star, which is a big time talisman/meaningful symbol. Nothing to do with it being midfield or in the endzone.

Spiking the ball on the star is basically like pissing on the black box in the center of Mecca

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Converted another 4th down, own side of the field, score 42-6 :lol

NO FUCKING MERCY

[Millennial_Messiah]

Damn, RG3 can still throw. Ravens got 2 stud BQB's.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I want to see the Ravens score here, go for 2, and convert. Just to get 50 and shove it in their face so to speak.

[AlexJones]

Lamar is going to fuck Harbuagh's wife tonight

[Millennial_Messiah]

Lamar is going to fuck Harbuagh's wife tonight

And the resulting athletic/smart mixed baby will be old enough to be in the NFL just about the same time as Lamar retires.

[Bynumite]

That -3,5 spread though :lol

[FrostKing]

And the resulting athletic/smart mixed baby will be old enough to be in the NFL just about the same time as Lamar retires.
NFL will never succeed in Europe because we'll just monkey chant these half breeds into tears

[Millennial_Messiah]

NFL will never succeed in Europe because we'll just monkey chant these half breeds into tears

:lol and people call Europe the most liberal place in the world.

"MAHOMES YOU RICKET AIDS HALF EBOLA MONKEY"

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Harbaugh gives no fucks... Zero blitz in garbage time :lol and Goff, with that interception, now has 10 TDs and 11 picks on the season. :lol 33 Million/Year

[Chinook]

That was an insanely fast game too by modern standards. Can't remember the last time I saw one that took less that three hours.

[Millennial_Messiah]

(@AdamStites_) (https://twitter.com/AdamStites_?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp %7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
Jared Goff threw zero touchdowns in the month of November

Twitter · 12 mins ago

[Millennial_Messiah]

Clipper Nation

What's your current thoughts on Jared Goff? 10 TD, 11 INT on the season now. :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

That was an insanely fast game too by modern standards. Can't remember the last time I saw one that took less that three hours.

49ers-Redskins Week 7 was even shorter. In the rain and mud no less.

[Clipper Nation]

NFL will never succeed in Europe because we'll just monkey chant these half breeds into tears

:lol "we'll"
:lol Still pretending you're from P:lolland of all countries