Regarding Lonnie - interesting tweet sequence from self proclaimed insider..

[Dennis the Menace]

@DB868
“There’s a reason why Lonnie is not playing one single minute.”

Fellow tweeter then replied with
“I am hoping it’s one of two things... 1. This is a test and Lonnie is getting a bigger role soon because some players are being traded 2. He’s available for trade offers”

@DB868
”One of the 2”

[Genovaswitness]

@DB868
“There’s a reason why Lonnie is not playing one single minute.”

Fellow tweeter then replied with
“I am hoping it’s one of two things... 1. This is a test and Lonnie is getting a bigger role soon because some players are being traded 2. He’s available for trade offers”

@DB868
”One of the 2”

why the fuck would he not be getting any PT if he's up for trade. wouldn't we want to showcase his value? so far he's shown fuck all and that's on poop

[BatManu20]

How the fuck would not playing him help his trade value :lol

[Ron Swanson]

"Insider" :lmao

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

because he is not good

[Mugen]

:lol Tonight was literally the same as every other game this season regarding Lonnie

[Dennis the Menace]

If it’s #2 then I would think the Spurs would be playing him to showcase/market him. So surely it’s #1.

Hopefully they are keeping him him on the down low so other organizations aren’t mandating him in packages. Because I think he would be making a big impact if he was getting the 20+minutes each game

[MultiTroll]

"self proclaimed insider"

Ok, there are only about 47 million of them.
Is there anything known about DB868?

[r0drig0lac]

"Insider" :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Is that EricB’s source?

[MultiTroll]

"1. This is a test"


What would the "test" be?
Some stupid f-ing Pop head game?

[SpurPadre]

"1. This is a test"


What would the "test" be?
Some stupid f-ing Pop head game?



The "getting over yourself" test.

[slick'81]

Is that EricB’s source?

I recall that behemoth saying walker would be the first guard off the pine to start the season along with white/murray in the backcourt according to his sauces on his chicken mcnuggets

[Mugen]

I recall that behemoth saying walker would be the first guard off the pine to start the season along with white/murray in the backcourt according to his sauces on his chicken mcnuggets

:lol

[timtonymanu]

I recall that behemoth saying walker would be the first guard off the pine to start the season along with white/murray in the backcourt according to his sauces on his chicken mcnuggets

:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Would anybody be surprised if he's getting traded? This is a coach who starts Bryn Forbes and Patty Mills together... It would be the icing on the cake if the players the Spurs trade are the young prospects with All-Star potential

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/DB868/status/1197256613712793600

Yeah, I'm going to doubt an insider who claims Patty Mills is on the trade block :lol

The only Twitter insider I believe is that cookie worthy dude DPG21920.

[Darius Bieber]

What does TSpence have to say about this?

[SpurPadre]

I'm waiting on tspence to drop some REAL insider knowledge.

[Robz4000]

Y'all forgot about my boy wojtek. What's his side of things like lefty?

[RC_Drunkford]

where are the spurstalk insiders?

[DPG21920]

https://twitter.com/DB868/status/1197256613712793600

Yeah, I'm going to doubt an insider who claims Patty Mills is on the trade block :lol

The only Twitter insider I believe is that cookie worthy dude DPG21920.

God bless sons - My job is to oscillate between twitter and here keeping the bonds of the Spurs brotherhood alive and well. I’m just here to talk basketball etc. etc..

[DPG21920]

The good news is DeRozan’s trade value should be solid. He’s playing really well and I guarantee there will be teams that would love to add him to their roster.

Let’s go DET/POR 3+ team trade.

[007nites]

The good news is DeRozan’s trade value should be solid. He’s playing really well and I guarantee there will be teams that would love to add him to their roster.

Let’s go DET/POR 3+ team trade.

Hopefully no team has watched any of his full games this season and only look at his trade value based on stats alone.

[DPG21920]

Hopefully no team has watched any of his full games this season and only look at his trade value based on stats alone.

I think everyone knows who DeRozan is and for a lot of teams with a better build for his game, he would be big in making a playoff push. He’s still a good player.

[slick'81]

I think everyone knows who DeRozan is and for a lot of teams with a better build for his game, he would be big in making a playoff push. He’s still a good player.


Theres a reason nobody would touch that contract when he was a raptor.hopefully spurs can flip his ass and actually imorove the team but well see

[DPG21920]

Theres a reason nobody would touch that contract when he was a raptor.hopefully spurs can flip his ass and actually imorove the team but well see

That is not true. TOR was a legit playoff team with a ECF ceiling (who ran into Lebron every year basically) and TOR would not have traded him for anyone but a Kawhi caliber player.

[HarlemHeat37]

Trade DD to the Pistons for Reggie Jackson and a 1st(+filler). They need to go all-out to compete in the final years of Griffin/Drummond and Casey is obviously familiar with DeRozan.

[slick'81]

That is not true. TOR was a legit playoff team with a ECF ceiling (who ran into Lebron every year basically) and TOR would not have traded him for anyone but a Kawhi caliber player.


Lmao of course theyd give him up for kawhi and being pretenders and getting bounced by lebron is nothing to be proud of

[DPG21920]

Trade DD to the Pistons for Reggie Jackson and a 1st(+filler). They need to go all-out to compete in the final years of Griffin/Drummond and Casey is obviously familiar with DeRozan.

I agree with DET as a partner, but not for Reggie and a first. They would need to include Kennard IMO. But yeah, Reggie would be the one-year salary filler (and could even be routed to a third team for an asset (2nd round pick maybe?)

Then go to POR and see if they want to flip Baze+Little for LMA.

[DPG21920]

Lmao of course theyd give him up for kawhi and being pretenders and getting bounced by lebron is nothing to be proud of

Im saying plenty of teams would have made solid offers for DeRozan if TOR wanted to really move him. They only really wanted to move him because Kawhi was on the table.

[slick'81]

Im saying plenty of teams would have made solid offers for DeRozan if TOR wanted to really move him. They only really wanted to move him because Kawhi was on the table.


If u say so

[HarlemHeat37]

Im saying plenty of teams would have made solid offers for DeRozan if TOR wanted to really move him. They only really wanted to move him because Kawhi was on the table.

:lol

[DPG21920]

If u say so

Look, it’s not like im in love with DeRozan but there is a reason teams still have interest in him now. He’s a good player; he just needs a perfect team build to maximize him.

[DPG21920]

:lol

I firmly believe that. He, in TOR, did not have some negative trade value. He would have fetched a solid package.

[HarlemHeat37]

I firmly believe that. He, in TOR, did not have some negative trade value. He would have fetched a solid package.

Maybe, but as I said at the time, I fully believe that Masai would have dumped him at the first opportunity for ANYTHING decent in return.

He's perfect for a team like the Pistons or Magic, some team that only has aspirations of being a low-seeded playoff team and no ambition to actually win anything real:lol.

[slick'81]

I firmly believe that. He, in TOR, did not have some negative trade value. He would have fetched a solid package.


Doesnt mean its true. I feel youre hyping up derozans value for whatever reason but like i said well see what he actually fetches if we can even move him and improve the team.

[timvp]

I agree with DET as a partner, but not for Reggie and a first. They would need to include Kennard IMO. But yeah, Reggie would be the one-year salary filler (and could even be routed to a third team for an asset (2nd round pick maybe?)

Then go to POR and see if they want to flip Baze+Little for LMA.

That Mills, Forbes, Kennard trio would be the first to give up 200 points in a game.

[DPG21920]

That Mills, Forbes, Kennard trio would be the first to give up 200 points in a game.

That’s fine, at that point the tank is on and then you dump Mills and let Forbes go. Kennard >>> Forbes

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

How the fuck would not playing him help his trade value :lolso teams won't see that he sucks.

[gospursgojas]

That Mills, Forbes, Kennard trio would be the first to give up 200 points in a game.

We all have to reprogram ourselves to stop considering defensive implications in any type of transaction. Defense is just not that important in today’s NBA.

[DPG21920]

We all have to reprogram ourselves to stop considering defensive implications in any type of transaction. Defense is just not that important in today’s NBA.

Ugh what? Don’t make the mistake of conflating increased pace with lack of importance on defense.

[BillMc]

That Mills, Forbes, Kennard trio would be the first to give up 200 points per game.

Fify:lol

[Dex]

"Insider" :lmao

a.k.a. some guy who was willing to get past Twitters rigorous application process

[BatManu20]

Fify:lol

:lol

[gambit1990]

Im saying plenty of teams would have made solid offers for DeRozan if TOR wanted to really move him. They only really wanted to move him because Kawhi was on the table.
:lmao

[99 Problems]

It’s time for an ‘Insiders Thread’ Quality is going to be champagne.

[Fireball]

where is option 3 - he sucks? I hope not but it should be an option

[duncan2k5]

Trade DD to the Pistons for Reggie Jackson and a 1st(+filler). They need to go all-out to compete in the final years of Griffin/Drummond and Casey is obviously familiar with DeRozan.

Reggie Jackson?? FUCK no... Have u seen him play?

[HarlemHeat37]

Reggie Jackson?? FUCK no... Have u seen him play?

His contract expires at the end of the season, you'd just be trading DeRozan for a 1st round pick and to dump him a year early.

[duncan2k5]

His contract expires at the end of the season, you'd just be trading DeRozan for a 1st round pick and to dump him a year early.

I'm not enthralled by picks anymore... Pop isn't in a state of mind where he is capable of coaching young players... So it would be a waste of time to draft someone who won't play... There are better teams than us who are playing their first and second round draft picks

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm not enthralled by picks anymore... Pop isn't in a state of mind where he is capable of coaching young players... So it would be a waste of time to draft someone who won't play... There are better teams than us who are playing their first and second round draft picks

I don't see any teams giving up a notable asset for DeRozan IMO.

[acoelho1]

It is very odd that Walker is not playing. You could argue he has the most tools out of anyone on the roster. Pop purposely holding him out to me signals that DDR’s days are numbered and perhaps LMA.

[duncan2k5]

I don't see any teams giving up a notable asset for DeRozan IMO.

I don't necessarily want a star... I want a young player that fits in with this era of basketball... Someone like OG from the raptors comes to mind... The raptors DEFINITELY don't want DDR, so they won't make that trade, but I'm talking about that caliber of player... May never make an all star team, but u can see him as a role player that has positive impact... Teams have traded for worse players... At this point getting rid of DDR is addition by subtraction

[tbdog]

Getting rid of our best player, the only player averaging over 20ppg. More points than White and Murray combined, while shooting the best percentage in the team. While also being the most healthiest last season, played the most minutes this season. And the Spurs would be better without him in an addition by subtraction? Please stop this nonsense.

[slick'81]

Getting rid of our best player, the only player averaging over 20ppg. More points than White and Murray combined, while shooting the best percentage in the team. While also being the most healthiest last season, played the most minutes this season. And the Spurs would be better without him in an addition by subtraction? Please stop this nonsense.


Were not winning games anyway so whats the difference

[tbdog]

Were not winning games anyway so whats the difference

Well it depends on the Spurs short term and long term goals. If DD and Spurs can't agree on a deal, then we should absolutely trade him. But just getting rid of him and thinking we'll get better just won't happen.

[DPG21920]

Well it depends on the Spurs short term and long term goals. If DD and Spurs can't agree on a deal, then we should absolutely trade him. But just getting rid of him and thinking we'll get better just won't happen.

Well, statistically speaking, yes. Despite all those things you mentioned, the team is better with him off the floor than on it.

[duncan2k5]

Well, statistically speaking, yes. Despite all those things you mentioned, the team is better with him off the floor than on it.

Leave him... He is comfortable with is being the Toronto of the west... Lose every year, but keep the guy responsible for u losing because he has great stats

[tbdog]

Well, statistically speaking, yes. Despite all those things you mentioned, the team is better with him off the floor than on it.

And the team is better with Beli on the floor than not.

[alpha_HaZE]

Well, statistically speaking, yes. Despite all those things you mentioned, the team is better with him off the floor than on it.

That's only because we have a good bench, in other words move DeMar to the bench unit and we are better with him on the floor.

[GAustex]

DDR is such an enigma. So good and so bad at the same time.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Getting rid of our best player, the only player averaging over 20ppg. More points than White and Murray combined, while shooting the best percentage in the team. While also being the most healthiest last season, played the most minutes this season. And the Spurs would be better without him in an addition by subtraction? Please stop this nonsense.

hammer dont hurt em

[MoSpur02]

https://twitter.com/lonniewalker_4/status/1197712228096643072?s=21

[the golden era]

https://twitter.com/lonniewalker_4/status/1197712228096643072?s=21

Spill the beans Mo, what do you know?

[ZeusWillJudge]

I think everyone knows who DeRozan is and for a lot of teams with a better build for his game, he would be big in making a playoff push. He’s still a good player.


Put him in a SL without Bryn Forbes, and he's a much more valuable piece. A team can't help on defense if they're already playing 4-on-5.

[Dejounte]

Spill the beans Mo, what do you know?

It was Lonnies reply to a tweet saying he has been ready to play for three years and Lonnie basically agreeing with the person with the tweeter.

Looks like Lonnie is not happy but says the right things to the media.

[Dejounte]

Spill the beans Mo, what do you know?

Heres the tweet

https://twitter.com/TexasSRoundups/status/1197711111690305536?s=19

It was Lonnies reply to a tweet saying he has been ready to play for three years and Lonnie basically agreeing with the person with the tweeter.

Looks like Lonnie is not happy but says the right things to the media.

[MoSpur02]

Heres the tweet

https://twitter.com/TexasSRoundups/status/1197711111690305536?s=19

It was Lonnies reply to a tweet saying he has been ready to play for three years and Lonnie basically agreeing with the person with the tweeter.

Looks like Lonnie is not happy but says the right things to the media.

Thanks Dejounte. I am not savvy when it comes to posting tweets.

[acoelho1]

Lonnie not playing is pure criminal. I fully expect him to be in the rotation sometime this year despite Pops mind games with young players.

[UZER]

Lonnie sees all the kids on his block playing football outside while he’s stuck inside because his old grandpa he lives with thinks Lonnie still doesn’t respect him enough. He hasn’t earned playing outside with the neighborhood kids because he doesn’t say yes sir no sir after every question.

[GAustex]

It’s time to put in the player who runs the fastest and jumps the highest and let the world see if he is ready.
If he flops then everybody will know.
Pop is weird for not running Walker out when it is so obvious that Spurs need an infusion of athleticism.

[MoSpur02]

Some of the Spurs biggest needs are defense and three point shooting. I don't know if Walker solves any of those two problems. He's athletic, quick, and obviously can get to the basket, but that doesn't fix two of the major problems the Spurs have. However, that still doesn't justify Belinelli getting more playing time than Walker. If Belinelli were shooting lights out from downtown then I could see him getting more playing time than Walker, but that's simply not the case right now.

Not sure why he isn't getting at the very least 8-12 minutes per game.

[sasaint]

Put him in a SL without Bryn Forbes, and he's a much more valuable piece. A team can't help on defense if they're already playing 4-on-5.

Whether or not Forbes is in the SL, Dumbmar still fits poorly with Dijon and LMA on the offensive end.

[exstatic]

Some of the Spurs biggest needs are defense and three point shooting. I don't know if Walker solves any of those two problems. He's athletic, quick, and obviously can get to the basket, but that doesn't fix two of the major problems the Spurs have. However, that still doesn't justify Belinelli getting more playing time than Walker. If Belinelli were shooting lights out from downtown then I could see him getting more playing time than Walker, but that's simply not the case right now.

Not sure why he isn't getting at the very least 8-12 minutes per game.

If he responded to someone on Twitter who said that he should be playing more, that's why. Dedmon retweeted something similar early in his year here, vis a vis he and Gasol, and not only got sat down, he ultimately got run out of town.

[UZER]

Some of the Spurs biggest needs are defense and three point shooting. I don't know if Walker solves any of those two problems. He's athletic, quick, and obviously can get to the basket, but that doesn't fix two of the major problems the Spurs have. However, that still doesn't justify Belinelli getting more playing time than Walker. If Belinelli were shooting lights out from downtown then I could see him getting more playing time than Walker, but that's simply not the case right now.

Not sure why he isn't getting at the very least 8-12 minutes per game.

At this point, the Spurs look old and slow every single night. They can’t play defense because they can’t stay in front of anybody individually and collectively. They are slow to rebounds and loose balls, 50/50 plays.

Play the young athletes. We ain’t doing anything this year anyway. At least they’ll be exciting to watch grow. People are overreacting in thinking everyone will bitch and moan about losing. It’s not the losing. It’s the way Pop is doing the same ol same ol. Playing the young guys would lower expectations and raise excitement knowing the franchise is at least moving in a new direction.

[UZER]

It is inexcusable for Pop not be playing Murray and White together. What universe is this guys coaching in?

[duncan2k5]

If he responded to someone on Twitter who said that he should be playing more, that's why. Dedmon retweeted something similar early in his year here, vis a vis he and Gasol, and not only got sat down, he ultimately got run out of town.

That's not why... That tweet was recent

[DPG21920]

Some of the Spurs biggest needs are defense and three point shooting. I don't know if Walker solves any of those two problems. He's athletic, quick, and obviously can get to the basket, but that doesn't fix two of the major problems the Spurs have. However, that still doesn't justify Belinelli getting more playing time than Walker. If Belinelli were shooting lights out from downtown then I could see him getting more playing time than Walker, but that's simply not the case right now.

Not sure why he isn't getting at the very least 8-12 minutes per game.

Lonnie, mistakes and all, is already 10x the defender Beli is.

[DPG21920]

If he responded to someone on Twitter who said that he should be playing more, that's why. Dedmon retweeted something similar early in his year here, vis a vis he and Gasol, and not only got sat down, he ultimately got run out of town.

Well then Pop is an idiot if he causes a young, talented player to want to bolt. You know how frustrated we are as fans with the losing and watching Forbes/Mills (to a lesser degree)/Beli play and be awful with no hope of improvement?

Now imagine Murray/White/Lonnie. These guys all know the truth and they know who is better. That is how you lose players and lockerooms; by playing favorites and not playing players based on merit.

Rudy mentioned Lonnie should be playing. We all know Lonnie should be playing. And we need to stop labeling what appears to be hardworking and talented players as malcontents when in reality it’s Pop playing favorites.

It’s one thing to have to sit there and take the coaching when it’s a championship level team with Tim/TP/Manu there. It’s another when you are a bottom dweller with guys like Beli/Forbes/Mills running wild.

[duncan2k5]

Well then Pop is an idiot if he causes a young, talented player to want to bolt. You know how frustrated we are as fans with the losing and watching Forbes/Mills (to a lesser degree)/Beli play and be awful with no hope of improvement?

Now imagine Murray/White/Lonnie. These guys all know the truth and they know who is better. That is how you lose players and lockerooms; by playing favorites and not playing players based on merit.

Rudy mentioned Lonnie should be playing. We all know Lonnie should be playing. And we need to stop labeling what appears to be hardworking and talented players as malcontents when in reality it’s Pop playing favorites.

It’s one thing to have to sit there and take the coaching when it’s a championship level team with Tim/TP/Manu there. It’s another when you are a bottom dweller with guys like Beli/Forbes/Mills running wild.

Exactly... The midget brigade shoots with impunity and are the worst defensive players in the NBA... Can't pass, can't rebound... Yet they're pop's favorites

[duncan2k5]

I know we used to joke about this, but Pop may actually like passive players and dislike demonstrative players... I can't think of one that he has had a good relationship with... So his constant benching of Murray may be to break him into submission...

[Dejounte]

That's not why... That tweet was recent

He didnt mean that literally..... Hes saying Lonnie may have shown or said something related to that tweet behind closed doors.

[r0drig0lac]

I'd rather see 48 minutes from Keldon, Walker and Metu than see the big scrub three Mills, Forbes and Marco out there.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Whether or not Forbes is in the SL, Dumbmar still fits poorly with Dijon and LMA on the offensive end.


Yeah, but they could get by much better than this. It's the big giant hole(s) in the defense that make them unable to be competitive. C'mon guys. Nobody thinks this roster is going to challenge anyone for the LOB. I get that. All I said was that DDR would be a lot more valuable on a different roster. And Forbes in the SL is a much bigger problem than having DDR on the floor with Aldridge and Murray.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

The distinction between tanking and trying to win has become completely subjective. To the point that if pop actually tried to tank we will probably win more games.

[acoelho1]

We all know Lonnie should be playing. And we need to stop labeling what appears to be hardworking and talented players as malcontents when in reality it’s Pop playing favorites.

It’s one thing to have to sit there and take the coaching when it’s a championship level team with Tim/TP/Manu there. It’s another when you are a bottom dweller with guys like Beli/Forbes/Mills running wild.

I don't think or hope it's Pop playing favorites. My guess is it's part of Pop's psychology on players they value the most to tear them down and build them back up. It worked great when we had 3 hall of famers. Not so much when you have a starting back court of Mills/Forbes. I highly doubt the benching of Lonnie will continue for the entire year. If I'm wrong, don't be surprise to hear of a trade demand.

[poopbox]

I don't think or hope it's Pop playing favorites. My guess is it's part of Pop's psychology on players they value the most to tear them down and build them back up. It worked great when we had 3 hall of famers. Not so much when you have a starting back court of Mills/Forbes. I highly doubt the benching of Lonnie will continue for the entire year. If I'm wrong, don't be surprise to hear of a trade demand.

Never should be on the bench over marco in the first place...

If I was Lonnie I would have been asked for a trade...

Lonnie is sitting on the bench so marco can have the worst season of his professional basketball career

[BacktoBasics]

I definitely prefer to see the younger guys on the court but it makes all the sense in the world to not have those young guys playing if you’re actively trying to unload that veteran dead weights.

If I’m another GM and I see Lonnie balling out of the gym I’m for sure asking for him to be included in any package I put together especially if I’m moving another young piece.

If I’m Pop I’d be hiding my young talent too.

So complain all you want but it’s not all that illogical.

[Dennis the Menace]

I definitely prefer to see the younger guys on the court but it makes all the sense in the world to not have those young guys playing if you’re actively trying to unload that veteran dead weights.

If I’m another GM and I see Lonnie balling out of the gym I’m for sure asking for him to be included in any package I put together especially if I’m moving another young piece.

If I’m Pop I’d be hiding my young talent too.

So complain all you want but it’s not all that illogical.

It makes sense, and something most fans would agree on from strategic standpoint. But that’s dependent on their goal of actually wanting to unload the vets.

From the outside fans are seeing a terrible team with vets eating up the minutes and lack of development opportunities for the youth. The outrage is justified. But if they are actually wanting to unload vets, then yeah everyone will cool down and applaud the office.

[MoSpur02]

Lonnie, mistakes and all, is already 10x the defender Beli is.

Exactly. Not sure why he's not getting playing time. Belinelli has sucked offensively and defensively. No need to play him except for garbage time.

[slick'81]

Luckily its only nov. lonie has to start finding his way into the rotation by atleast new year right?

[BacktoBasics]

It makes sense, and something most fans would agree on from strategic standpoint. But that’s dependent on their goal of actually wanting to unload the vets.

From the outside fans are seeing a terrible team with vets eating up the minutes and lack of development opportunities for the youth. The outrage is justified. But if they are actually wanting to unload vets, then yeah everyone will cool down and applaud the office.
The other problem is the warped perception of value. On one hand those here consider DDR to be trash but then wonder why the FO has moved him for a young player with potential and a draft pick. My guess is the offers the FO are fielding is much less than what this forum thinks is a viable trade. Same BS with the Kawhi trade. Somehow the FO should have received more when in reality they were lucky to get what they did.

Unfortunately it’s looking like a waiting game as these vets are far more valuable closer to the deadline. I sure hope it’s sooner but I’m not optimistic.

[Prime BEEF]

The distinction between tanking and trying to win has become completely subjective. To the point that if pop actually tried to tank we will probably win more games.
Agree with this. If pop did the opposite of what he thinks is best then we’d actually improve

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

The other problem is the warped perception of value. On one hand those here consider DDR to be trash but then wonder why the FO has moved him for a young player with potential and a draft pick. My guess is the offers the FO are fielding is much less than what this forum thinks is a viable trade. Same BS with the Kawhi trade. Somehow the FO should have received more when in reality they were lucky to get what they did.

Unfortunately it’s looking like a waiting game as these vets are far more valuable closer to the deadline. I sure hope it’s sooner but I’m not optimistic.

I’m not optimistic either. They are most likely to keep “pounding the rock” rather than make any changes.

[Seventyniner]

https://twitter.com/DB868/status/1197256613712793600

Yeah, I'm going to doubt an insider who claims Patty Mills is on the trade block :lol

The only Twitter insider I believe is that cookie worthy dude DPG21920 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13014).

How likely do you think it is that the team is just playing out the string until December 15, when a lot of players become trade-eligible?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but that's what a shitty season tends to do to hopeless optimists like me.

[sasaint]

Yeah, but they could get by much better than this. It's the big giant hole(s) in the defense that make them unable to be competitive. C'mon guys. Nobody thinks this roster is going to challenge anyone for the LOB. I get that. All I said was that DDR would be a lot more valuable on a different roster. And Forbes in the SL is a much bigger problem than having DDR on the floor with Aldridge and Murray.

Both of your points are true. I am just advocating a more sweeping change.

[Mugen]

If he responded to someone on Twitter who said that he should be playing more, that's why. Dedmon retweeted something similar early in his year here, vis a vis he and Gasol, and not only got sat down, he ultimately got run out of town.

:lmao what a fucking joke.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

It is inexcusable for Pop not be playing Murray and White together. What universe is this guys coaching in?If either one can't play more than 24 minutes than you can't play them together because they would both have to come out at the same time.

[r0drig0lac]

If either one can't play more than 24 minutes than you can't play them together because they would both have to come out at the same time.

Pop routinely uses the Mills/Forbes combo as pg/sg, that's not a problem.

[sasaint]

I definitely prefer to see the younger guys on the court but it makes all the sense in the world to not have those young guys playing if you’re actively trying to unload that veteran dead weights.

If I’m another GM and I see Lonnie balling out of the gym I’m for sure asking for him to be included in any package I put together especially if I’m moving another young piece.

If I’m Pop I’d be hiding my young talent too.

So complain all you want but it’s not all that illogical.

Except I believe Pop has been trying to win games not hide young talent.

[Leetonidas]

That DB guy is such a clown. Talks a big game on Twitter like he's some badass with inside sources because he posted once 2 years ago about how he heard Kawhi wanted out and now dude thinks he's hot shit. He's a giant faggot imho. He was throwing tons of shit at the wall during the summer and none of it stuck. And him claiming Pop is shopping his pet wombat tells you he has no credibility :lol

[Dennis the Menace]

Not sure how to post the tweets but this guy’s source is saying

“Lonnie’s minutes are going to increase in the next week”
”Only hope of a deal getting done including Demar”

What TF. First we get fleeced for Kawhi trade. Then let’s throw salt on this wound by giving away our youth core just to try to get something in return for Demar?

[RC_Drunkford]

Not sure how to post the tweets but this guy’s source is saying

“Lonnie’s minutes are going to increase in the next week”
”Only hope of a deal getting done including Demar”

What TF. First we get fleeced for Kawhi trade. Then let’s throw salt on this wound by giving away our youth core just to try to get something in return for Demar?

It's not only him who said that. Tom Petrini said the same thing. The Spurs are shopping Mills and Walker alongside DeRozan and Aldridge. That's who they are trying to move. Doesn't surprise me with how idiotic Flopovich has been coaching, of course he'll trade a future All-Star on a rookie contract for some garbage in return

[alpha_HaZE]

It's not only him who said that. Tom Petrini said the same thing. The Spurs are shopping Mills and Walker alongside DeRozan and Aldridge. That's who they are trying to move. Doesn't surprise me with how idiotic Flopovich has been coaching, of course he'll trade a future All-Star on a rookie contract for some garbage in return

Wow you bash the coach based on a rumour, you certainly have an agenda against him.

[raybies]

my heart can't take a Lonnie trade... he shouldn't even be on the table... rather tank the year and let DD walk then give up any of our youth.

[r0drig0lac]

Pop will trade a talent like Walker and his sniffers will eat this shit, making up some excuse for ANOTHER completely ridiculous decision

[jermaine]

Pop or the Spurs front office ain't that stupid to trade Demar an Walker. If they did, I'd seriously stop being a Spurs fan.

[RC_Drunkford]

Wow you bash the coach based on a rumour, you certainly have an agenda against him.

I'm bashing the coach cause he's 6-13

[alpha_HaZE]

I'm bashing the coach cause he's 6-13

No, it's because you have an agenda against him and you are a shill.

His record speaks for himself, he has developed some of the best players in the league the last few years, has won championships and so stop bashing him because we have a rough year thus far. It was about to happen, we have made the playoffs the more than any other team in the league in a row. Quite frankly, we shouldn't have last season with the roster we have. Pretty much every team in the west has a better duo than us.

[K...]

If we're giving up lonnie we're getting someone back that's better than what DeroZan would bring alone. Whether that's a good trade or not is subjective. If it costs a first round talent to dump DeroZan they can just let him play out the season and keep Lonnie. But I wouldn't cry if Lonnie netted us a top 15 pick. This is the sniffers promise.

[RC_Drunkford]

No, it's because you have an agenda against him and you are a shill.

His record speaks for himself, he has developed some of the best players in the league the last few years, has won championships and so stop bashing him because we have a rough year thus far. It was about to happen, we have made the playoffs the more than any other team in the league in a row. Quite frankly, we shouldn't have last season with the roster we have. Pretty much every team in the west has a better duo than us.

Jeff McCuckold is that you?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Eric Paschall has started 12 of his 18 games with GSW this season, as a rookie 41st draft pick. 17 points, 5.6 boards, and 1.6 turnovers. Lonnie's numbers look so much lower, but their Per 36 numbers are pretty close. (Paschall is shooting .267 from 3, and Lonnie is shooting .250)

The Dubs are in a bind, otherwise there's no way Paschall would be starting for them. His advanced stats look pretty bad, which is to be expected. But next year, the Warriors will have a young guy with experience and confidence.

The Spurs are in bind, too.

[GAustex]

It seems so obvious to me that Lonnie needs lots of burn. And I am not as smart as pops.

[exstatic]

If Lonnie were being shopped, he’d be being showcased. Period. Pop would at least have him in at garbage time every game, letting him do whatever, run up and down, dunk, chuck up shots, you know, entice the morons.

Since he’s not being showcased...