Game Thread: Spurs at Knicks - Nov. 23, 2019 @ 6:30pm CT

[timvp]

Dejounte Murray is out for this back-to-back. Hopefully Derrick White will be back but there is no word yet that he will be in uniform.

Get this one.

Believe.

1.

[vavvi]

They can't loose forever, can they?

[RC_Drunkford]

Knicks by 20

[Prime BEEF]

The spurs keep streaking. Randal and RJ have big games

[Play Boban]

Chalk up the L.

[GAustex]

With the way things have been going it is hard to be optimistic for a losing streak ending win on the road.

[TXstbobcat]

With the way things have been going it is hard to be optimistic for a losing streak ending win on the road.


best shot to end the losing streak will be when Cleveland comes to town.

[Truth4sale$]

Battle of desperate teams. Marcus Morris and Rj barrett are good enough with the defense of Frank nickilina to beat the Spurs. Gotta give the young guys (Metu, Walker IV) some early run, the old guys (Gay/Aldridge) are too tired on a back to back.

[Kool Bob Love]

The Spurs are definitely tanking.

[Prose]

i wish pop would play the line up he played with less than 2 mins to go last night. I mean metu confidently taking and making a deep 2 already makes him a better player the jakob, work of the raptors young core, poodle.

[raybies]

Just play

White/Derozan/Carrol/LMA/Poetl to start
Patty/Lonnie/Bryn or Beli/Gay/Poetl off the bench...

Problem solved... it's really not rocket science. the bad defenders need to be surrounded by plus defenders... it's actually so frustrating. I think Pop's belief in the system is his greatest strength and greatest weakness. He really believes they can be better than the sum of the parts. It works to an extent when you have anchors. We just don't have those now. And now since we don't we have to upgrade the collective parts....

[spurs10]

They can't loose forever, can they? With our starting lineup being the worst defense in the NBA I would think we could and will lose most games. Today is winnable, but so was Atlanta, Blazers, and the Wizards.

[DPG21920]

They can't loose forever, can they?

As long as AmusedVP keeps starting game threads...yes. Yes they can.

[RC_Drunkford]

this team can't win on the road no matter who's the opponent

[Amuseddaysleeper]

As long as AmusedVP keeps starting game threads...yes. Yes they can.

:lmao

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

If they lose tonight someone is gone...Pop, LMA or DDR...No way this shit show continues much longer. Hey if they win they jump to 9th! Ha! lets be honest the Tpups and Suns are not that good and falling back to earth.

[LakerHater]

Spurs win this but go on another skid!

[r0drig0lac]

Jeff McDonald
@JMcDonald_SAEN
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Derrick White will start at point guard tonight with Dejounte Murray sitting on the second night of a back-to-back.

[cool cat]

I know it’s already over but this game really feels like the final straw if they lose.

[Leetonidas]

Knicks by 20+

[TimmyBuckets]

This team is trash. Please tank.

[Mugen]

Start Tiago.

[timvp]

Man, where's Bill Land? This Weiss character...

Hopefully just an early holiday break for Land.

[objective]

Forbes ready to escort Barrett to the rim I hope

[timvp]

Aldridge hugging the entire Knicks coaching staff. Start the trade rumors, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Demar!!!!!

[JPB]

:lobt2:

[timvp]

71-11 here we come :danceclub

[tbdog]

Pop learning that DD is number 1 of the team right now. Time to call his number more. But that means more Forbes ��

[Darius Bieber]

Fuck, this is a horrible start. We want that lottery pick. Should be down 10 by now.

[JPB]

Gotta keep the knicks 2 games behind for HCA in case we face in the Finals

[timvp]

Man, Forbes D is painfully bad.

[Slippy]

That 3 there is exactly why Marco is in . He made that spacing happen after Demar passed the open 3.

It's helps that he's converting finally.

[r0drig0lac]

great D by Carroll

[Slippy]

Interesting front court for spurs. . LA RUDY and DEMARRI

[tbdog]

Seriously, have Carroll start instead of Forbes.

[spurs1990]

We owe Marco apologies probably

[TheGreatYacht]

Always love it when Pop calls a timeout in the middle of a Spurs run so the other team can get together and talk things thru.

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

F me...Beli leading scorer. We live and die by Beli....

[r0drig0lac]

Magic Mills?

[Sugus]

Same old riding with the vets and not letting promising young players get running time... Only now shots are falling so everyone's happy. Play the younglings!

[BatManu20]

The streak is over. Spurs are back. Tanking done. The Race for Seis continues :lobt2:

[Slippy]

Loving this Jacob Rudy and Demarri frontcourt. Defense holding strong

[timvp]

Jakob Poeltl heat check :lol

Thank the basketball gods for the Knicks.

[timvp]

Gay with some amazing passes :wow

[spurs1990]

Check out the Knicks stream. Their announcers, Clyde Frazier in particular are heaping praise on the Spurs solid play

[JeffDuncan]

My lord, the Knicks are worse than we are. It's a little scary.

[Slippy]

Demar it isn't 4th quarter. Too early on the choke

[timvp]

Pop puts in a trash defensive lineup ... momentum gone :pctoss

[baseline bum]

Spurs had their most embarrassing loss of the season last year to the Knicks, so only fitting if they give the Knicks their most embarrassing loss of the season this year.

[timvp]

:lol @ the defense of Mills, Belinelli, DeRozan, Lyles and Poeltl

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs icing the pick and roll now. Makes sense

[baseline bum]

Gay with some amazing passes :wow

Bend over, I'll show you an amazing Gay pass.... wait, um

[timvp]

Bend over, I'll show you an amazing Gay pass.... wait, um

:lol

[spurs1990]

DeRozan is the anti harden absolutely getting no calls

[Light]

DeRozan is the anti harden absolutely getting no calls

Was thinking the same thing.

[212094ever]

Lyles :wow

[jeebus]

Spurs had their most embarrassing loss of the season last year to the Knicks, so only fitting if they give the Knicks their most embarrassing loss of the season this year.

Just wait.

[poopbox]

Forbes getting his shots thrown all over the court by Money Making Mitch :lol

[Degoat]

We Back Bitches!! Lol

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Now Lyles has more threes than DDR. That has been the big difference in losses. Not hitting the three...

[timvp]

Treymont Lyles :wow

[spurs1990]

Who is this team?? Lyles looks like he found his role off the bench

[RC_Drunkford]

Forbes getting his shots thrown all over the court by Money Making Mitch :lol

at some point Pop has to realize he's not a starter. I'm just not sure if that will ever happen

[Slippy]

Trey Lyles with 2 threes in a row. Again the defense has lifted. No coincidence pop gone big frontcourt of L.A. Demarri and trey.

If Bryn wadnt in there it be a perfect lineup.. haha

[heyheymymy]

I'm sure they'll give up this lead but it kinda feels like what pop told morris before the game was "I don't care if I'm tanking or not, from now on I'm going to go in your mouth whenever I'm playing your team."

[Robz4000]

:lol blowing a 22 point lead to the Knicks is gonna be the new low point of the season

[212094ever]

Again!

[JeffDuncan]

Lyles reminds me of Steph Curry!

[timvp]

Treymont Lylopolis :wow

[heyheymymy]

Lyles on fyre

[RC_Drunkford]

does Lyles and Carroll playing well mean Pop might bench Beli? Or does it mean he benches Carroll again?

[timvp]

:lol blowing a 22 point lead to the Knicks is gonna be the new low point of the season

:lol

[Robz4000]

This is Trey's world, we're just living in it...

[timvp]

Lyles reminds me of Steph Curry!

Settle down, Pop.

[tbdog]

Trey fits in our time line?

[BatManu20]

Derrick White looks horrible tbh. If he’s hurt, he doesn’t need to be playing.

[heyheymymy]

From now on I'm calling trey Lyles 'bobo lyte'

Middle class mans diaw tbh

[emanueldavidginobili]

White still laboring his foot

[Slippy]

Hustle by Lyles. Wow

[timvp]

White still laboring his foot

Yep :td

[Dejounte]

"Lyles is garbage. He contributes nothing!" -@duncan2k5

[Slippy]

LA about freaking time.

[Slippy]

Defense has gone soft all of a sudden. Lyles to bench. Demar back to sf

[poopbox]

only the knicks could put patty mills and bryn forbes in the pick and roll and they still couldn't score :spin

[Slippy]

Best first half defensively and offensively? Who this spurs

[Genovaswitness]

White still laboring his foot

he can get over it.

good start

[timvp]

:lol @ "Sell the team" chant

:lol @ David Fizdale getting fired after this game

:lol @ Forbes giving up a baseline drive and dunk and all his teammates look at him like WTF

:lol @ Knicks

:lol @ "Spurs talked to Kristaps so we're stealing Marcus Morris"

:lol @ Knicks

[r0drig0lac]

the difference that makes having a real wing playing good minutes is impressive.

[SPURt]

Derrick White looks horrible tbh. If he’s hurt, he doesn’t need to be playing.
This. Him and Forbes have been garbage tonight. Add in the horrible rim protection and the Spurs are damn lucky the Knicks suck. It is nice to rub Marcus Morris’s terrible decision in his face.

[Degoat]

:lol @ "Sell the team" chant

:lol @ David Fizdale getting fired after this game

:lol @ Forbes giving up a baseline drive and dunk and all his teammates look at him like WTF

:lol @ Knicks

:lol @ "Spurs talked to Kristaps so we're stealing Marcus Morris"

:lol @ Knicks

I forgot about the “spurs talked to Kristaps,” tampering thing the Knicks accused us of lol :lmao no wonder Pop actually looks like he’s coaching tonight

[RC_Drunkford]

gave up 27 in the 2nd. Still ok considering this team usually gives the opponent 2 40 point quarters. 9 times out of 10 if the Knicks score Forbes is involved. Even on that Randle 3, Randle was only open cause Forbes' man sucked in the defense. He also scored 0 points. Let's hope Pop starts decreasing his minutes

[Gorepopovich]

:lol

[JPB]

:lol @ "Sell the team" chant

:lol @ David Fizdale getting fired after this game

:lol @ Forbes giving up a baseline drive and dunk and all his teammates look at him like WTF

:lol @ Knicks

:lol @ "Spurs talked to Kristaps so we're stealing Marcus Morris"

:lol @ Knicks

Last one was enough tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So great to see Lyles back and killing it from downtown :tu

[8FOR!3]

J. Cole is at the game lol I’ll post some pics later this week

[timvp]

9 times out of 10 if the Knicks score Forbes is involved. Even on that Randle 3, Randle was only open cause Forbes' man sucked in the defense. He also scored 0 points. Let's hope Pop starts decreasing his minutes

I can't even imagine how much better the Spurs defense would be if Carroll would just be given Forbes' minutes.

[ace3g]

J. Cole is at the game lol I’ll post some pics later this week

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1198389745937768448

[JPB]

J. Cole is at the game lol I’ll post some pics later this week

No dick pics allowed.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Best first half defensively and offensively? Who this spursThat will happen when you play the Knicks.

[Degoat]

Hopefully they keep it up so we can see Lonnie and Keldon during garbage time

[Maddog]

Did the Spurs really talk to KP?
Or is this just a Knicks delusion.

If you want to complain about the Spurs, take a look at the Knicks

[KimmyGib]

In before Knicks comeback

[spurs10]

Keep foot on throat!

[KimmyGib]

Caroll's rebounding :tu

[sasaint]

DWhite's losing his feet so frequently the last 2 games must have something to do with his injury. Why would Pop be playing him injured?

[spurs1990]

Forbes is playing himself out of the rotation. Substituted at the 9:45 mark of the 3rd qt

[SPURt]

Refs saving the Spurs from themselves... oh wait... Beli checking in? I see what you did there Pop

[Gibbz]

Forbes is playing himself out of the rotation. Substituted at the 9:45 mark of the 3rd qt

He SHOULD be playing himself out of the rotation, but don't kid yourself. Anyone would be subbed out with 4 fouls.

[sasaint]

That will happen when you play the Knicks.

Not if you are the Spurs. The Knicks have really fucked us a couple of times in the last few years.

[timvp]

White obviously still being injured sucks, tbh.

[spurs1990]

He SHOULD be playing himself out of the rotation, but don't kid yourself. Anyone would be subbed out with 4 fouls.

whoops my mistake didn't pay attention to the fouls. But he's easily the weakest link in the 10 man rotation now that Lyles has proven he can hit 3s off the bench

[james evans]

I don't even think Mills and Beli could give up this lead

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Derrick white reaggravating his foot injury :td

[JeffDuncan]

White should be given whatever time he needs to rehab his feet. This is not a year to press the issue.

[Slippy]

That will happen when you play the Knicks.

Spurs are behind Dubs for worst team in the league so ill take it haha. Pop actually made legit changes this game that are noteworthy. Demarri into the rotation and pop going with the big frontcourt from 3 to 5 is a couple of them. Defense was good then.

Lets also not get ahead of ourselves the. The spurs in the 4th with Demar leading. Yikes.. 4 full quarters is what we need

[timvp]

Pooooooooooooooooooooooooop, why you playing an injured White?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Aldridge with 1 board. Carroll with 7.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Pooooooooooooooooooooooooop, why you playing an injured White?


That's unforgivable.

[spurs1990]

White looks incredibly slow on defense. Gregg is losing his gourd playing a hobbled White

[RC_Drunkford]

I can't even imagine how much better the Spurs defense would be if Carroll would just be given Forbes' minutes.

Of course, if I remember correctly about 80% of the posters wanted him to start before the season even started, but somehow Pop thought he was a 3rd stringer

[KimmyGib]

Assistant Coach TD: Dude Pop, Belinelli sucks.

:pop: I know, but the Italians send me such excellent wine in exchange for playing him.

[SPURt]

Beli Shaqtin

[timvp]

Dennis Smith Jr. looks about 25 pounds fatter than the last time I saw him, tbh.

[JeffDuncan]

Great pass by Beli, straight to the ref.

[Robz4000]

Yep, here comes the choke.

[Chomag]

Lonnie can't even be given trash minutes, still has allot to learn by watching belli I guess

[212094ever]

Here we go again...

[Degoat]

Oh boy lol

[SPURt]

White is just awful tonight

[Spurs Brazil]

Bellinelli and White are damn awful

[timvp]

:sick

[BackHome]

Man New York not even trying to win they are trying damn hard to get number 1 draft pick.

[poopbox]

Pop playing white on one foot but won't play lonnie for one minute :cry

Here comes the choke tbh :hungry:

[GB20]

White doesn't look right. Is pop fucking blind?

[timvp]

Oh good, Pop goes with the worst perimeter defending trio.

[Chomag]

Can't outtank the Knicks I guess

[poopbox]

Lonnie :spin

[hoopdreams11]

Marco with the +0 right now gave up about 10 points that quarter LW in

[RC_Drunkford]

Did the Spurs really talk to KP?
Or is this just a Knicks delusion.

If you want to complain about the Spurs, take a look at the Knicks

there were rumors Spurs wanted to trade Kawhi for Porzingis before the season started where he sat out 73 games

[GB20]

Yes!!

[r0drig0lac]

walker in? wtf

[spurs10]

Oh good, Pop goes with the worst perimeter defending trio. Maybe Forbes will foul out.

[RC_Drunkford]

Now we getting there Pop. He's slowly playing the right line ups

[spurs1990]

Walker please please earn some minutes here

[timvp]

It's amazing what it takes for LWIV to get on the court, tbh.

[RC_Drunkford]

need to run high low action for LA more often

[Beartrucci]

Here we go :lol

oops was behind on game a bit. Looks like a good ending to quarter considering how things were starting to look

[r0drig0lac]

Gay!!!!

[spurs1990]

Rudy should be the closer at end of the quarter I'm convinced

[3&D_TBH]

I’m forty-two years old, and in all of my years of being a Spurs fan, I think tonight might be the first time I’ve felt disappointed that the Spurs are winning a game. I’m conflicted. It’s really a shitty thing to feel, right? But isn’t a win tonight completely fucking inconsequential in the grand scheme of things? I’m no basketball expert, but to my eye we have no shot of competing at all with this roster. I want more talent and more high character (competitive) players more than anything right now. Winning this game against a perpetual bottom feeder like the Knicks feels really hollow. I would almost rather lose it. :-(

[GB20]

I hope Walker play the whole 4th quarter .

[Beartrucci]

I’m forty-two years old, and in all of my years of being a Spurs fan, I think tonight might be the first time I’ve felt disappointed that the Spurs are winning a game. I’m conflicted. It’s really a shitty thing to feel, right? But isn’t a win tonight completely fucking inconsequential in the grand scheme of things? I’m no basketball expert, but to my eye we have no shot of competing at all with this roster. I want more talent and more high character (competitive) players more than anything right now. Winning this game against a perpetual bottom feeder like the Knicks feels really hollow. I would almost rather lose it. :-(

the Spurs hear you. They’re trying their best you may just get your wish

[r0drig0lac]

loonie!!!

[Beartrucci]

Lonnie!!!!!!!!!!

[Robz4000]

:wow Lonnie

[212094ever]

Non-competitive dunk by Lonnie

[Ron Swanson]

Lonnie’s going to get benched for that dunk.

[Robz4000]

:wow that Lonnie pass

[Genovaswitness]

fucking finally lonnie

[SPURt]

Damn! Lonnie!

[Chomag]

Holly Cow Lonnie!!!! That authority dunk will get Walker benched for the next 10 games

[spurs1990]

Dunk and then an 3pt assist for Walker

[RC_Drunkford]

Damn Mills just blocked a 3-pointer from behind :wow which ended in a Lonnie dunk

[timtonymanu]

:pop: "Mmmm.. not good enough. Back to the bench, you go."

[timvp]

Lonnie :wow

[Spurs Brazil]

Good minutes for Walker

[RC_Drunkford]

Mills should've thrown the oop for Lonnie there

[Thomas82]

I’m forty-two years old, and in all of my years of being a Spurs fan, I think tonight might be the first time I’ve felt disappointed that the Spurs are winning a game. I’m conflicted. It’s really a shitty thing to feel, right? But isn’t a win tonight completely fucking inconsequential in the grand scheme of things? I’m no basketball expert, but to my eye we have no shot of competing at all with this roster. I want more talent and more high character (competitive) players more than anything right now. Winning this game against a perpetual bottom feeder like the Knicks feels really hollow. I would almost rather lose it. :-(

I feel the exact same way as you, and I'm only 2 years younger.

[Robz4000]

Too bad that's the last we'll see of Lonnie until December.

[timvp]

Lyles is an expert at getting offensive rebounds coming in from the perimeter. Horry-esque, tbh.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Lonnie Walker with great man defense and his athletism and slashing>>>>

[Robz4000]

Lonnie Walker with great man defense and his athletism and slashing>>>>

But how's his culture????????????

[Gibbz]

Lonnie making plays out there!

[spurs1990]

Mills should've thrown the oop for Lonnie there

Glad I wasn't the only one who saw that

[RC_Drunkford]

Lyles is perfect off the bench. That's where you need to get the energy plays from and he's always getting offensive boards.

[timvp]

Too bad that's the last we'll see of Lonnie until December.

https://media.giphy.com/media/oOX5qIDkzDjeo/source.gif

[Gorepopovich]

Lonnie pass =Manu

[Chomag]

Lonnie playing great individual D tbh

[r0drig0lac]

i love walker athletics

[timvp]

Is Pop not watching the game and seeing White limp out there?

[spurs1990]

Four straight FT misses by Walker including last night

[RC_Drunkford]

Lonnie playing great individual D tbh

He guarded Harden very well in preseason, the kid is a good defender

[timvp]

Walker 1-for-7 at the line this season. WTF?

[Chomag]

LMA missed Lonnie on the cut there

[poopbox]

back to back plays were lapussy played no defense at the rim

[JeffDuncan]

White seriously is not moving well. He needs - excuse me - load management.

[sasaint]

Are we gonna choke this away?

[Robz4000]

Knickrefs imo

[Chomag]

No challange?!

[RC_Drunkford]

Forbes is the reason we get scored on all the time. Either his man scores or sucks the defense in and the opponent gets open 3s

[Gibbz]

I don't think Pop knows that there are challenges now.

[Chomag]

Man if the Spurs choke this.... There are no words

[Robz4000]

Choke time

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[Leetonidas]

:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

no reason for Gay to take that extra step

[r0drig0lac]

Forbes is a scrub

[ZeusWillJudge]

Man if the Spurs choke this.... There are no words


Even if it ended now, it's bad enough. Blowing that kind of lead and making it a game at the end.

[Chomag]

I don't know if I should be laughing or crying, I'm so conflicted

[timvp]

Crunch Time DeRozan activated :depressed

[davidbowie]

it'll be funny when we lose

[RC_Drunkford]

There's DeRozan with the choke when you have to make a crucial bucket

[spurs1990]

I refuse to believe the Spurs could lose this game. They've dominated it from start to finish

[davidbowie]

no matter the outcome, tonight will feel disappointing

[slick'81]

Worthless challenge

[ZeusWillJudge]

I refuse to believe the Spurs could lose this game. They've dominated it from start to finish


They haven't dominated the second half.

[slick'81]

Win number 6 here we come

[hoopdreams11]

Is Derozan throwing games? down the stretch terrible turnovers. Maybe he wants to be traded

[poopbox]

Pop to dumb to challenge that out of bounds play that was clearly out on barrett...

Carroll played well in the 1st half...has he played at all in the second?

[RC_Drunkford]

now the refs gonna turn over the call saying LA's chicken wing is an offensive foul


*EDIT* dodged a bullet there

[davidbowie]

TAKE THAT FOR DATA

[bbarry]

no way we lose this one.

[spurs10]

Are we gonna choke this away?
No!

[slick'81]

Thank god this knick team is beyond awful

[KimmyGib]

In before Knicks comeback

[ZeusWillJudge]

Does anybody remember seeing DDR use that up and under before last night?

[spurs10]

Spurs ball!

[bbarry]

there's the dagger.

[Degoat]

Degoat!!! Lol

[RC_Drunkford]

White just fits way better next to LA and DeRozan than Murray

[ZeusWillJudge]

I want to see Becky get some cornrows. Just decided.

[sasaint]

LMA so stupid.

[NASpurs]

A win? How disappointing.

[BatManu20]

I want to see Becky get some cornrows. Just decided.


:lol

[212094ever]

40 points in the second half

[RC_Drunkford]

LaMarcus had a dunk but wanted to shoot a fadeaway :lol

[ZeusWillJudge]

The sad thing is the Knicks feel like they let one get away.

[davidbowie]

SPURS WIN!!!!!! WHERE THE HATERS AT????

STAY OFF THE BANDWAGON......TRUE FANS ONLY!!!!!!!!

:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:

[Degoat]

Spurs win!!! :flag:

[BatManu20]

Lol Hornets


1198430494687473665

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I wonder if that last 3 screwed anyone out of the margin of victory contest :lol

[Play Boban]

Oh look, cancerous Instagram Baller doesn’t play and the Spurs win. Shocking!

[NASpurs]

Things should get back on course in the next week or so when the Spurs play the Lakers, Clippers and Rockets.

[timvp]

71-11 :lobt2:

[mexicanjunior]

Wasted lottery leverage tbh...

[timtonymanu]

Lol Hornets


1198430494687473665

That's some Reggie Miller shit :lol

[Play Boban]

I wonder if that last 3 screwed anyone out of the margin of victory contest :lol
i hope so

[timtonymanu]

We beat the worst team in the East! Championship hopes back! Time for me to move on to the sniffer side.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1198434662923804672

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1198434662923804672

The season is still young!

[Robz4000]

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[Degoat]

All the naysayers are big mad tonight lol :lmao:lmao:lmao

[r0drig0lac]

We beat the worst team in the East! Championship hopes back! Time for me to move on to the sniffer side.

:lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2: :lobt2:

[KimmyGib]

Incoming 7 game win streak.

[Genovaswitness]

All the naysayers are big mad tonight lol :lmao:lmao:lmao

Good to know the spurs need an 18 point 4th quarter lead to stand a chance :lmao

Happy we won regardless. Made a fucking stupid bet for spurs over 47.5 earlier this year in Vegas. still holding out hope LOL

[sasaint]

White just fits way better next to LA and DeRozan than Murray

Been saying it for almost a year. Derrick knows how to set up a big. He makes LMA better. Derrick just has waaay more PG vision/instincts than Murray.

[sasaint]

The season is still young!

Haha! My thoughts exactly!

[Chomag]

I believe Murray is allot more talented then White but White has allot better PG instincts then Murray.

[tim_duncan_fan]

The Spurs would win more if they were more decisive and not so goddamn lethargic.

Our players are a whole lot less slower than the average player to realize they are open. Then there is a stutter as the widespread lack of confidence sets in and the opening is gone. That's if they don't pass on the open shot entirely because they are scared to shoot it.

And speaking of passing, why are they so slow moving the ball? Just lazy, late, slow-moving passes at the start of each possession, fucking off most of the potential for good looks at the basket via incredibly lethargic movement.

The guys also react very slowly to rebounds, loose balls, and hustle plays.

They are just generally slow mentally and physically. I don't get it.


I really want to force the entire team to take shots of adrenaline before the next game.