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Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 05:13 PM
The successful champion of making America Great Again or the Commie dictator? Who you got?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 05:16 PM
This is going to be a hard one. Ya'll better wait for Chump to vote present before you all vote present. :lmao

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 05:50 PM
The successful champion of making America Great Again or the Commie dictator? Who you got?
which one of those is supposed to be trump?

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 05:51 PM
also, quite the low bar. given the low bar you've set, i'll say trump.

whats next, trump vs assad? trump vs putin? trump vs saddam?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 05:54 PM
i'll say trump.

Cool. Now grow a pair and make your vote official in the poll, then.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 05:57 PM
Yep, Trump is better than an autocrat like Xi. Mainly because the Constitution prevents him from being one.

lol derp thinking so little of Dennison that he thought this was the only way anyone would pick him.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 05:58 PM
Cool. Now grow a pair and make your vote official in the poll, then.

Why?

That's not official for anything.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 05:59 PM
Yep, Trump is better than an autocrat like Xi.

Yet you're too scared to register your vote.

lol dump

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:01 PM
Yet you're too scared to register your vote.

lol dumpI stated my vote. It's registered.

lol derp begging now

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:04 PM
:lol derp too scared to vote in his own poll.

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 06:22 PM
Cool. Now grow a pair and make your vote official in the poll, then.
your OP distorted the options by providing confusing descriptions, so i just wanted to make that clear first.

whats ur next poll, scrah, trump vs pol pot?

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 06:23 PM
hey derp, who was a better leader, bill clinton or mao zedong?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:25 PM
hey derp, who was a better leader, bill clinton or mao zedong?

Well, Bill didn't commit genocide against 20 million of his own people. So, obviously Bill.

Are you comparing Mao to China's current leader?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:28 PM
:lol derp too scared to vote in his own poll.

I've already explained that once I vote, it doesn't let me see who voted due to some sort of glitch. I select DJT, and will make it official in a few days. I'm not scared to register my vote like you are.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:29 PM
I stated my vote. It's registered.

lol derp begging now

Sorry, but you either officially register your vote in the poll, or you're just a chicken chump. Par.

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 06:33 PM
Well, Bill didn't commit genocide against 20 million of his own people. So, obviously Bill.
ok. great talk.


Are you comparing Mao to China's current leader?
i never made that comparison, no

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:45 PM
I've already explained that once I vote, it doesn't let me see who voted due to some sort of glitch. I select DJT, and will make it official in a few days. I'm not scared to register my vote like you are.

:lol "glitch"

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:45 PM
Sorry, but you either officially register your vote in the poll, or you're just a chicken chump. Par.
According to whom?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:49 PM
ok. great talk.


i never made that comparison, no

:lol Lite being passive aggressive about his own arguments.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:50 PM
:lol "glitch"

I posted this in ST glitches thread at the time.

:lol Shat-on Chump

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 06:50 PM
:lol Lite being passive aggressive about his own arguments.
:lol trumpette wont vote in his own poll

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:50 PM
According to whom?

According to you're a pussy.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:51 PM
:lol trumpette wont vote in his own poll

I already said I will in a few days, Lite.

:cry But I saw a nothing w straight ahead. :cry

:lmao

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:51 PM
I posted this in ST glitches thread at the time.

:lol Shat-on ChumpOk I'll vote right after I see your vote.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:52 PM
According to you're a pussy.

According to whom?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:53 PM
According to whom?

You're to scared to vote in the poll. It is what it is.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:53 PM
Ok I'll vote right after I see your vote.

Why would you need to wait for me? Am I your leader?

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:55 PM
You're to scared to vote in the poll. It is what it is.

Nah I already voted.

You haven't even done that.

lol you're scared

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:55 PM
Why would you need to wait for me? Am I your leader?

You're currently waiting for me.

I am your leader.

:lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:56 PM
Nah I already voted.

You haven't even done that.

lol you're scared

You're too scared to vote in the poll. You have not voted in the poll.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 06:58 PM
You're currently waiting for me.

I am your leader.

:lol

I've not said I'm waiting for you.

But :lmao that you just confirmed that I'm your leader (by your own logic).


Ok I'll vote right after I see your vote.

:lmao Sloppy Compulsive Chump

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 06:59 PM
You're too scared to vote in the poll. You have not voted in the poll. You're too scared to vote in the poll. You haven't voted in the poll.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:00 PM
I've not said I'm waiting for you.

But :lmao that you just confirmed that I'm your leader (by your own logic).



:lmao Sloppy Compulsive Chump

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
So you're not waiting for the other men to vote.

You're just too scared to vote.

:lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:08 PM
:lmao Chump wants to pretend he hasn't been utterly shat on now.
:lmao Par.

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/queen-checkmates-king-3d-illustration-260nw-1249758655.jpg

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:34 PM
:lmao Chump wants to pretend he hasn't been utterly shat on now.
:lmao Par.

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/queen-checkmates-king-3d-illustration-260nw-1249758655.jpgYou're waiting for the men to vote before you vote.

If you weren't waiting, you would have already voted.

Unless you're scared.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:43 PM
:lol Shat-On Chump wants to pretend now.
:lol Par.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:46 PM
:lol Shat-On Chump wants to pretend now.
:lol Par.Why haven't you voted?

Explain.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:50 PM
Why haven't you voted?

Explain.

It has been perfectly explained.

Get in here and tell him so, johnsmith. (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7502) I know you're a big fan of confirming these things between Chump and me.

:lmao Meanwhile, you've been shat on, Chump. :lmao

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:52 PM
It has been perfectly explained.Right, you're waiting for the other men to vote.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:54 PM
Right, you're waiting for the other men to vote.

:cry Muh fake narratives :cry

johnsmith (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4000) will surely be here to explain it to you. Be patient.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:55 PM
:cry Muh fake narratives :crySo you're not waiting for other men to vote?

Then what are you waiting for?

Step up.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:56 PM
Nah I already voted.

You haven't even done that.

lol you're scared

You haven't voted in the poll. Now stop spamming, Chump.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 07:57 PM
You haven't voted in the poll.You haven't voted in the poll.

What are you waiting for?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 07:58 PM
So you're not waiting for other men to vote?

Then what are you waiting for?

Step up.

I've said that I'm not waiting for anyone to vote. I've explained the delay in my vote. And unlike your BS when you claim ambiguous or non-existent explanations, my explanation is quite clear. Now stop you're crying, bitch. Just cos you got shat on is no excuse for you to spam.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:00 PM
I've said that I'm not waiting for anyone to vote. I've explained the delay in my vote.What is causing the delay in your vote?

The fact you can't see how the men vote.

So you're waiting for the men to vote so you can see how they voted.

lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:03 PM
What is causing the delay in your vote?

This thread is still only two pages. Go and review my posts and if you're still too inept to know the answer, then I'll tell you.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:07 PM
This thread is still only two pages. Go and review my posts and if you're to inept to know the answer, then I'll tell you.

I've already explained that once I vote, it doesn't let me see who voted due to some sort of glitch.You are waiting for the men to vote so you can see which men voted.

It's your ManTracker™

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:09 PM
You are waiting for the men to vote so you can see which men voted.

It's your ManTracker™

:lol "Men"

Sorry, Chump, but your buddies aren't much of men even if I were homo like you. Or do you call cucks and trannies men?

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:12 PM
:lol "Men"

Sorry, Chump, but you're buddies aren't much of men even if I were homo like you. Or do you call cucks and trannies men?Whatever you try to call them, you're still waiting for them to vote.

They are your leaders.

lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:15 PM
Whatever you try to call them, you're still waiting for them to vote.

They are your leaders.

lol

:lmao Tripling down on the narrative that had you admitting I am you're leader.
:lmao Sloppy Pscyhopav.
:lmao Par.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:16 PM
Chump I could honestly give a shit about when I vote at this point. Especially if it means not having to spend another X hours listening to you drone on about this.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:20 PM
Chump I could honestly give a shit about when I vote at this point. Especially if it means not having to spend another X hours listening to you drone on about this.So vote now.

That'll prove you don't give a shit.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:22 PM
So vote now.

That'll prove you don't give a shit.

Why are you being sarcastic if this is so important to you?

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:26 PM
Why are you being sarcastic if this is so important to you?:lmao you think this is important to me.

Why are you saying you don't give a shit about when you vote when you clearly do care?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:29 PM
:lmao you think this is important to me.

Why are you saying you don't give a shit about when you vote when you clearly do care?

You're droning on about it. It's clearly important to you. If it's not, then feel free to shut the fuck up.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:31 PM
You're droning on about it. It's clearly important to you. If it's not, then feel free to shut the fuck up.:lol My posting about your slavishly following men is clearly bugging you, so feel free to keep whining about it.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:32 PM
:lol My posting about your slavishly following men is clearly bugging you, so feel free to keep whining about it.

Do you need me to vote now, Chump?

Yes or no.

spurraider21
12-01-2019, 08:35 PM
I already said I will in a few days, Lite.

:cry But I saw a nothing w straight ahead. :cry

:lmao
:lmao trumpette needing a few days to decide if trump is a better leader than xi

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:36 PM
Do you need me to vote now, Chump?

Yes or no.I don't care whether you vote or not.

I know you won't vote because you still want to follow through on your Operation ManTracker™.

:lmao

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:37 PM
:lmao trumpette needing a few days to decide if trump is a better leader than xi:lmao derp

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:38 PM
I don't care whether you vote or not.

I know you won't vote because you still want to follow through on your Operation ManTracker™.

:lmao

:lol Anyone who wants to see how or even whether someone voted is gay.
:lol Chump logic.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:41 PM
:lol Anyone who wants to see how or even whether someone voted is gay.
:lol Chump logic.I never said anything about your being gay for wanting to track all these men.

You did.

That's quite a tell.

:lol derp

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:43 PM
I never said anything about your being gay for wanting to track all these men.

You did.

That's quite a tell.

:lol derp

:cry Reading into my innuendo is quite a tell :cry

:lmao Sloppy Chump

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:50 PM
:cry Reading into my innuendo is quite a tell :cry

:lmao Sloppy ChumpIf you're gay, that explains why you are tracking men so hard.

Good for you.:tu

But you still haven't voted in your own poll after saying you don't care when you vote.:lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 08:54 PM
If you're gay, that explains why you are tracking men so hard.

Good for you.:tu

But you still haven't voted in your own poll after saying you don't care when you vote.:lol

I gave you my reason for not voting right away. I'll vote sooner if it gets you to stop spamming.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 08:58 PM
I gave you my reason for not voting right away.Yes, you feel the need to track men.

I'll vote sooner if it gets you to stop spamming.By all means, vote right now.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 09:16 PM
Yes, you feel the need to track men.
By all means, vote right now.

Voted. By all means, stop spamming. :lol

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 09:31 PM
Voted. By all means, stop spamming. :lol:lmao you had to be bullied into voting in your own poll.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 09:32 PM
:lmao you had to be bullied into voting in your own poll.


INB4 Chump brags about bullying..

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277149&p=9996186&viewfull=1#post9996186

:lmao Predictable Sloppy Pscyhopav

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 09:35 PM
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277149&p=9996186&viewfull=1#post9996186

:lmao Predictable Sloppy Pscyhopav:rollin you're so shook you posted in a thread from last year in a different forum.

/shot trough the heart

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 09:38 PM
:rollin you're so shook you posted in a thread from last year in a different forum.

/shot trough the heart

:lmao Chump really mad he got called out on his stupid shit in advance.
:lmao "by all means," I'm quite the bully.
:lmao Blakian ineptitude.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 09:40 PM
:lmao Chump really mad he got called out on his stupid shit in advance.
:lmao "by all means," I'm quite the bully.
:lmao Blakian ineptitude.Why did you post that in a college sports thread from December 2018?

:lmao inderptitude.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 09:45 PM
Ok I'll vote right after I see your vote.

Go ahead and vote, Chumpy.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 09:48 PM
Go ahead and vote, Chumpy.:lmao I was never going to vote in your stupid poll. I answered so you'll have to record it in your diary.

And now your operation ManTracker™ has failed!

:rollin

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 09:50 PM
:lmao I was never going to vote in your stupid poll. I answered so you'll have to record it in your diary.

And now your operation ManTracker™ has failed!

:rollin

:cry I boldface lied :cry
:cry It's what I do :cry

:lmao

lol dump

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 09:53 PM
:cry I boldface lied :cry
:cry It's what I do :cry

:lmao

lol dump:lol derp's gonna whine about this one for days.

Need to find another way to implement Operation ManTracker™.

lol derp

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:03 PM
:lol derp's gonna whine about this one for days.

Need to find another way to implement Operation ManTracker™.

lol derp

Not at all. We all know you have no honor.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:06 PM
Not at all. We all know you have no honor.Explain to me what message board poll honor means to you.

It's obviously very important to you.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:08 PM
Explain to me what message board poll honor means to you.

It's obviously very important to you.

Oh look. Chump gets exposed and now he's gonna jibber jabber his way forth.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:09 PM
Oh look. Chump gets exposed and now he's gonna jibber jabber his way forth.Derp folds.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:11 PM
Derp folds.

:lmao Chump too triggered to cast a vote for Trump.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:13 PM
:lmao Chump too triggered to cast a vote for Trump.I already stated my position.

What would voting in your poll you can no longer monitor matter?

Explain.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:15 PM
:cry I already stated my position. :cry

:lmao Too triggered to cast that vote.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:16 PM
:lmao Too triggered to cast that vote.Why do you want me to?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:19 PM
Why do you want me to?

I don't want you to. I accept that you're too much of a triggered pussy. :lmao

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:19 PM
I don't want you.:lmao

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:20 PM
:lol Blake Zero in the house

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:20 PM
I don't want you to.:lmao

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:31 PM
I accept that you're too much of a triggered pussy. :lmao

:lmao

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:32 PM
:lmaoYou didn't want me to answer yet you whined all night about it.

:lmao

You're still whining about it.

:lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:36 PM
You didn't want me to answer yet you whined all night about it.

:lmao

You're still whining about it.

:lol

You don't have the stones to vote.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:39 PM
You don't have the stones to vote.I stated my position in words.

You can track my response.

What's the significance of voting when you know my vote and you can't even verify who has voted?

Explain.

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:41 PM
I stated my position in words.

You did. Your position was that you'd vote right after me. Once again you've proven that your words are meaningless.

:lmao Blake Zero

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:43 PM
You did.Right. I answered your poll question.

What would clicking a choice on a poll do to change that?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:48 PM
Right. I answered your poll question.

What would clicking a choice on a poll do to change that?

If you're contending there's no change, then sac up and just do it instead of clucking.

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:50 PM
If you're contending there's no change, then sac up and just do it instead of clucking.I'm contending there is no change, so there is no reason to do it.

You agree there is no change, so there is no reason to do it.:tu

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:51 PM
I'm contending there is no change, so there is no reason to do it.

You agree there is no change, so there is no reason to do it.:tu

:cry I won't sac up :cry
:cry Cluck Cluck :cry

ChumpDumper
12-01-2019, 10:52 PM
:cry I won't sac up :cry
:cry Cluck Cluck :cryYou can't tell me there is any difference between stating my position in words or clicking on a poll.

You didn't even try.

lol

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 10:54 PM
You can't tell me there is any difference between stating my position in words or clicking on a poll.

You didn't even try.

lol

If you contend that there's no difference, then submit your vote. Stop clucking.

Chucho
12-01-2019, 11:29 PM
For a faggot concerned about cucks, you have a serious bukkake addiction, derp. Why so big on getting shat all over?

Spurtacular
12-01-2019, 11:43 PM
Oh look; chuchoriffic is here.

ChumpDumper
12-02-2019, 12:35 AM
If you contend that there's no difference, then submit your vote. Stop clucking.So now you want me to vote?

Pick a lane, derp.

Spurtacular
12-02-2019, 12:40 AM
So now you want me to vote?

Pick a lane, derp.

Okay, I pick the lane where you shouldn't be a pussy and vote. But keep clucking; it's all you do.

ChumpDumper
12-02-2019, 12:48 AM
Okay, I pick the lane where you shouldn't be a pussy and vote. But keep clucking; it's all you do.Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular
12-02-2019, 12:54 AM
Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

:cry Wine and dine me :cry

:lmao Chump

ChumpDumper
12-02-2019, 12:56 AM
:cry Wine and dine me :cry

:lmao Chump
You didn't answer the question, derp.

Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular
12-02-2019, 01:30 AM
You didn't answer the question, derp.

Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

I said you should vote. Do you need chocolates and flowers too, Chump?

:lmao

lol Dump

ChumpDumper
12-02-2019, 01:37 AM
I said you should vote.You didn't answer the question, derp.

Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular
12-02-2019, 01:45 AM
You didn't answer the question, derp.

Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

What is the difference between saying you should vote and wanting you to vote?

:lol Blake Zero

ChumpDumper
12-02-2019, 01:46 AM
What is the difference between saying you should vote and wanting you to vote?You didn't answer the question, derp.

Do you want me to vote?

Yes or no.

Either answer or fold.

spurraider21
12-02-2019, 03:23 AM
What is the difference between saying you should vote and wanting you to vote?

:lol Blake Zero
i should take out the trash

but i dont want to take out the trash

LkrFan
12-02-2019, 06:00 AM
Yep, Trump is better than an autocrat like Xi. Mainly because the Constitution prevents him from being one.

lol derp thinking so little of Dennison that he thought this was the only way anyone would pick him.

:lmao

johnsmith
12-04-2019, 03:51 PM
It has been perfectly explained.

Get in here and tell him so, johnsmith. (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7502) I know you're a big fan of confirming these things between Chump and me.

:lmao Meanwhile, you've been shat on, Chump. :lmao

Ummmm.....I’m not sure wtf I just read, I eventually just skimmed over the last couple pages. I will offer a small piece of advice to you though, stop! You’re trying to outlast a guy that has posted on this forum every day regularly for over a decade. In the amount of time chump has been a consistent poster on this site, I’ve been married, divorced, married again, had two kids, and one of them is about to enter middle school next year. There’s no use in continuing this fight. Take a step back and be done with it.

Spurtacular
12-04-2019, 07:09 PM
Ummmm.....I’m not sure wtf I just read, I eventually just skimmed over the last couple pages. I will offer a small piece of advice to you though, stop! You’re trying to outlast a guy that has posted on this forum every day regularly for over a decade. In the amount of time chump has been a consistent poster on this site, I’ve been married, divorced, married again, had two kids, and one of them is about to enter middle school next year. There’s no use in continuing this fight. Take a step back and be done with it.

Yea, we agree; chump's a parasite.

johnsmith
12-04-2019, 09:16 PM
Yea, we agree; chump's a parasite.

No....chumps just a dude that gets a kick out of arguing with people on this site, and he’s really, really fucking good at it. I used to despise chump, but ive grown to respect his dedication to his “craft” (for lack of a better term). He’s also good people and he’s fairly rational but he just loves doing this shit, and to each their own. You honestly CANNOT compete with him because you won’t be able to outlast him....nor should you want too! What kind of life would that be?

And if those aren’t good enough reasons for you to stop, then think of it this way, you’re literally providing him with free entertainment.

Spurtacular
12-04-2019, 09:19 PM
No....chumps just a dude that gets a kick out of arguing with people on this site, and he’s really, really fucking good at it. I used to despise chump, but ive grown to respect his dedication to his “craft” (for lack of a better term). He’s also good people and he’s fairly rational but he just loves doing this shit, and to each their own. You honestly CANNOT compete with him because you won’t be able to outlast him....nor should you want too! What kind of life would that be?

And if those aren’t good enough reasons for you to stop, then think of it this way, you’re literally providing him with free entertainment.

I shit on Chump all day long. Just because he's a psychopath that cannot accept it doesn't mean it's about "outlasting" him.

:lmao "good people"

No, he's a terrible person. You're watering down the meaning of good people if you're gonna call the board menace good people. :lol

DMX7
12-04-2019, 10:46 PM
What is the difference between saying you should vote and wanting you to vote?

:lol Blake Zero

You don't know the difference between "should" and "want"? :lol

Spurtacular
12-04-2019, 11:28 PM
You don't know the difference between "should" and "want"? :lol

Yea, next to nothing. Thanks for playing.

DMX7
12-05-2019, 10:47 AM
Yea, next to nothing. Thanks for playing.

What a stupid thread. What a stupid reply. You're on such a roll. :lol

Spurtacular
12-05-2019, 05:34 PM
What a stupid thread. What a stupid reply. You're on such a roll. :lol

:lmao Ankle Biter Nobody7 doesn't like his sh** being swatted.