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Ron Swanson
12-06-2019, 11:11 PM
Pinche Wombat

phxspurfan
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
MVPatty

Spurtacular
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
Xtra low IQ play from Corey Joseph.

MoSpur02
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
Mills killing us at the line.

duncan2k5
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
Patty is so TRASH

212094ever
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
:lmao

FkLA
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
lol Poop's pets

Degoat
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
Geez patty lol

KDKSpurs24
12-06-2019, 11:12 PM
I’m LMFAO.. Goodness

slick'81
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Kings are done

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Mills killing us at the line.

Gonna be the difference in the game - blowing a chance to go up 3 and instead going up 1!

KDKSpurs24
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Neither team wants to win it seems

FkLA
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
p.s. why the fuck is Belli out there?

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
We are blessed. Two overtime games in a row. Such entertainment!

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Fucking faggots cant make free throws

Chomag
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Why doesnt Pop put out White out there instead of Murray? Murray is a spaz right now

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Kings are done

But are they more done than the Spurs?

Spurs Homer
12-06-2019, 11:13 PM
Thursday night - tortured by cowboys
fri noght - ditto spurs
FML

slick'81
12-06-2019, 11:14 PM
Lmao mills is a flopping wombat tonight

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:14 PM
Fuck you Mills, the least you can do is hit your fucking free throws.

Chomag
12-06-2019, 11:14 PM
I don't understand this line up at all

Spurtacular
12-06-2019, 11:14 PM
Did Mills seriously go 1-3 from FTs? Wasn't paying attention.

duncan2k5
12-06-2019, 11:14 PM
ABUSING patty per par

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Buddy Hield is a mouth breather like Raymond

Ron Swanson
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Ariza :lmao

bbarry
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
oh my god. get a fucking reb.

Chomag
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Lmao....well we did win

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Why doesnt Pop put out White out there instead of Murray? Murray is a spaz right now

White is like 0-100000 tonight. TF you talking about?

r0drig0lac
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
ugly win

spurs1990
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Murray with the Tony Parker big nuts shot circa 2002

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
What a terrible final possession and flukey win.

Dhbsr555
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Beli 18 minutes walker 12

JPB
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Most undeserved win in NBA history.

Degoat
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Lmao!!!!!

KDKSpurs24
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
I repeat... NEITHER TEAM WANTED TO WIN THIS GAME!! Horrible game

phxspurfan
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Lol 3 offensive boards to close out the game

duncan2k5
12-06-2019, 11:15 PM
Murray with the gamewinnner, but no one here will give him credit

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Victory:lobt2::flag:

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
I just cant. What a fucking retarded game. :lmao

tholdren
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Murray with the gamewinnner, but no one here will give him credit

3 tos > 1 make

Shakril
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Horrible Defense wins against horrible offense. KINGS GOT 4 ATTEMPTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn it.

JPB
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Spurs making their best to give the game away, Queens politely declining.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Spurs really tried to give this one away. :lol

Degoat
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
A win is a win boys! :flag:

RD2191
12-06-2019, 11:16 PM
2 in a row :wow

Spurtacular
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
I don't understand this line up at all

Oh, you know. It's the play Mills/Belli on D and give them eight shots at the game winner lineup. Pop is an NBA championship coach and you're not. You shouldn't even question it.

FkLA
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
Lucky, fluky shit. Fuck Shitinelli and fuck Poop.

Texas_Ranger
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
Murray with the gamewinnner, but no one here will give him credit

if the retard didn't lose 4 balls in the OT we would perhaps won before the last second.

212094ever
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
Fitting end, what a clusterfuck

spurs1990
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
One thing you can't say these games aren't amazing to watch. You literally never know if San Antonio is even going to win

r0drig0lac
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
Murray with the gamewinnner, but no one here will give him credit

he was the best spur on the court tonight

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
Murray with the gamewinnner, but no one here will give him credit

You're really talking out of your ass on this one.

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:17 PM
I've enjoyed losses more than that win.

emanueldavidginobili
12-06-2019, 11:18 PM
This team sucks, tbh.

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:18 PM
he was the best spur on the court tonight

He was horrible the first half of OT.

Nivek_ogre
12-06-2019, 11:18 PM
Time ran out. Spurs win. I guess

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:18 PM
Not a good win and I wasn't impressed with our team. They were lucky to get this one.

DPG21920
12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Pop with some atrocious coaching, Spurs with the most embarrassing win I can ever remember. This team is not it and this type of win, while needed obviously, is about as dejecting as possible.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Hey, if fighting for minutes means they both play harder, that's fine. Hopefully, Pop can find a way to push buttons and get all of the guards to play hungry at the same time.

Agreed but Lonnie needs a chance to prove himself more out there even though Tuesday was a fluke.

Dhbsr555
12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
All this means is walker is going back to the doghouse

Spurs Homer
12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
Only two players i ever hated - AFTER they hit a big shot

bonner & beli

DPG21920
12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
White sucked, Murray sucked on offense bad and this was embarrassing. This is an atrocious SAC team, not even fully healthy, on the road and it was awful.

sananspursfan21
12-06-2019, 11:20 PM
Spurs win off of four missed rebounds and four missed game winners. This season summed up in about 15 seconds :lol

Degoat
12-06-2019, 11:20 PM
On a side note, for all those concerned about Keldon 3 pt shooting he made 3 3s tonight

JPB
12-06-2019, 11:20 PM
Thanks Corey. Good job.

slick'81
12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
Only two players i ever hated - AFTER they hit a big shot

bonner & beli

bonner hit big shots?

weebo
12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
Better to win ugly than to lose pretty so stfu .

duncan2k5
12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
if the retard didn't lose 4 balls in the OT we would perhaps won before the last second.

he lost three...clearly u cant count...LMA knocked the ball out of his hand when he had secured the rebound already...Murray is the reason we even went into overtime...u ppl on here have so little understanding of basketball...u guys see three turnovers and thats all...u all dont see the defensive intensity and rebounding...not to mention he hit two clutch freethrows in regulation along with the steal that turned around the game...the big defensive play on Barnes, AND his gamewinner in OT

Amuseddaysleeper
12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
White sucked, Murray sucked on offense bad and this was embarrassing. This is an atrocious SAC team, not even fully healthy, on the road and it was awful.

I couldn’t believe how bad SAC was in crunch time. They looked scared wtf

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
Murray: "Coach is still trying to figure things out."

Wow, truth bomb!

hater
12-06-2019, 11:22 PM
these faggots the wanted to lose

they lost cause they won

Truth4sale$
12-06-2019, 11:22 PM
Jacob Puertol was the best player tonight and should have been in instead of LaMarcus

duncan2k5
12-06-2019, 11:22 PM
You're really talking out of your ass on this one.

who is giving him credit for it other than me? everyone here is either silent or talking about his turnovers

Nivek_ogre
12-06-2019, 11:22 PM
Murray sounds like a retard.

DPG21920
12-06-2019, 11:23 PM
I couldn’t believe how bad SAC was in crunch time. They looked scared wtf

Meltdown city but thats just a reflection on how bad this SAC team is.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:23 PM
On the plus side, it should be good for Dejounte's confidence that he hit the game winner.

Spurs Homer
12-06-2019, 11:23 PM
bonner hit big shots?

once in a blue moon bonner would hit a big shot and the result would be

more bonner
less tiago

for three fucking years until pop finally paired tiago & timmy

Gibbz
12-06-2019, 11:24 PM
Sacramento is a fucking disaster--can't believe they hired Walton.

cascaders
12-06-2019, 11:24 PM
ahhhhhh

Genovaswitness
12-06-2019, 11:24 PM
wow three wins in a row. I’ll take it

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:25 PM
On the plus side, it should be good for Dejounte's confidence that he hit the game winner.

Really need him and White to figure out how to do this consistently. The team is much better when both of them are playing at a high level.

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:26 PM
Seriously, if there is such a thing as a terrible win. This was it. That shit was fucking embarrassing.

Fully healthy losing to another shit team without 2 of their best players and they still lucked the fuck out.

This team sucks so hard. :lol

Dejounte
12-06-2019, 11:26 PM
he lost three...clearly u cant count...LMA knocked the ball out of his hand when he had secured the rebound already...Murray is the reason we even went into overtime...u ppl on here have so little understanding of basketball...u guys see three turnovers and thats all...u all dont see the defensive intensity and rebounding...not to mention he hit two clutch freethrows in regulation along with the steal that turned around the game...the big defensive play on Barnes, AND his gamewinner in OT

Moving on from Kawhi to Murray? Murray has been garbage for 75% of the season. Your schtick smells like ass.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:26 PM
bonner hit big shots?

That's like a Trump level lie...WOW. That fucker couldn't ever hit a big shot even if he was offered a million free sandwiches for hitting one.

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:26 PM
If Derrick isn't healthy sit him out and give Lonnie more burn. It's clear he's never gonna go away from Patty/Forbes/Beli so fucking get White healthy and give Lonnie the extra minutes.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:27 PM
Seriously, if there is such a thing as a terrible win. This was it. That shit was fucking embarrassing.

Fully healthy losing to another shit team without 2 of their best players and they still lucked the fuck out.

This team sucks so hard. :lol

Don’t forget Beli hitting the game tying shot to get his minutes back. :lol

Dennis the Menace
12-06-2019, 11:27 PM
On a side note, for all those concerned about Keldon 3 pt shooting he made 3 3s tonight

Whats the point? Mills, Belli, and no defense chucking Forbes aren’t going anywhere

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:27 PM
That's like a Trump level lie...WOW. That fucker couldn't ever hit a big shot even if he was offered a million free sandwiches for hitting one.

Bonner hit a big 3 in Game 1 of the 2011 playoffs tbh :lol

Mr. Body
12-06-2019, 11:27 PM
WINNING STREAK

TimDunkem
12-06-2019, 11:27 PM
Stumbling into a win against a Kings team without Fox and Bagley at home coming off of several days of rest.

Yuck.

Chinook
12-06-2019, 11:28 PM
Agreed but Lonnie needs a chance to prove himself more out there even though Tuesday was a fluke.

Beli didn't take Walker's minutes. He took Forbes'. Walker play his stint as DeRozan's backup, and Beli came in with the starters and returned when DeRozan took Gay's spot (when Pop normally runs Mills, Forbes and either White or Murray as the perimeter players). Beli's likely not going to fall out of the rotation completely. Pop should play DeMar at PF as much as he can get away with, so there'll be games where they are a ton of minutes for all of them.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:28 PM
Really need him and White to figure out how to do this consistently. The team is much better when both of them are playing at a high level.

Well, they're certainly not getting any minutes together any time soon, tbh.

Dex
12-06-2019, 11:29 PM
A win is a win.

At least the guys are showing some grit and finding to win games.

BlackAndWhite
12-06-2019, 11:29 PM
I wish Pop can give Carroll some burn this game. When no one is playing well, maybe carroll can bring the edge

UZER
12-06-2019, 11:30 PM
On a side note, for all those concerned about Keldon 3 pt shooting he made 3 3s tonight

I’m not concerned. I don’t care.

:pop:

Dejounte
12-06-2019, 11:30 PM
I wish Pop can give Carroll some burn this game. When no one is playing well, maybe carroll can bring the edge

Really seems like Carroll said something nasty about Pop's wife.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:31 PM
Well, they're certainly not getting any minutes together any time soon, tbh.

Doesn’t even have to be together at the moment. Just enough where they aren’t constantly getting benched in favor of Forbes AND Patty in crunch time, which has been the case the last two games. Right now, White looks awful and is justifying losing his minutes to those guys.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:31 PM
Bonner hit a big 3 in Game 1 of the 2011 playoffs tbh :lol

Don't believe it. Bonner in crunch time makes DeRozan look like Jordan.

UZER
12-06-2019, 11:31 PM
White looks hobbled out there.

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:31 PM
Beli didn't take Walker's minutes. He took Forbes'. Walker play his stint as DeRozan's backup, and Beli came in with the starters and returned when DeRozan took Gay's spot (when Pop normally runs Mills, Forbes and either White or Murray as the perimeter players). Beli's likely not going to fall out of the rotation completely. Pop should play DeMar at PF as much as he can get away with, so there'll be games where they are a ton of minutes for all of them.

:lol why? That just means two out of Forbes/Patty/Beli are in the game. He's not going with two out of Lonnie/White/Dejounte if DD is at the 4, at least no more than a possession or two.

The rotations are beyond fucked this season.

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:32 PM
Don't believe it. Bonner in crunch time makes DeRozan look like Jordan.

:lol Give me Bonner every day of the week tbh

https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84
https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:33 PM
Really seems like Carroll said something nasty about Pop's wife.

Lyles finding his role on the team, Carroll’s inability to figure out the system (said by Pop), and then Carroll’s 4 quick turnovers last game seem to be the reason he isn’t seeing minutes.

tholdren
12-06-2019, 11:33 PM
if the retard didn't lose 4 balls in the OT we would perhaps won before the last second.

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:33 PM
White looks hobbled out there.

I think he's pretty banged up. Let's hope this 5 day reprieve really helps him.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:35 PM
I think he's pretty banged up. Let's hope this 5 day reprieve really helps him.

If it’s the PF bothering him, he might not ever be 100% all year imo.

UZER
12-06-2019, 11:35 PM
:lol Give me Bonner every day of the week tbh

https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84
https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84

This is Bonners ONE clutch playoff moment as a Spur. In 10 plus years, with all his playing time, this was it. One. :lol

Mugen
12-06-2019, 11:36 PM
This is Bonners ONE clutch moment as a Spur. In 10 plus years, with all his playing time, this was it. One. :lol

Pretty much :lol

offset formation
12-06-2019, 11:36 PM
It's become painfully obvious Demar has to go. He can't control his emotions and is a giant liability on D. Move him. It clarifies the guard rotations a bit more as well and allows Blockob and LMA to play together.

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:37 PM
If it’s the PF bothering him, he might not ever be 100% all year imo.

You could be right.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:37 PM
:lol Give me Bonner every day of the week tbh

https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84
https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84

Matty would have had a different reputation after this if Porky didn’t hero ball and RJ didn’t miss an open 3. Luckily, Matty bounced back against the Lakers and Grizzlies two years later.

GB20
12-06-2019, 11:37 PM
Murray: "Coach is still trying to figure things out."

Wow, truth bomb!

I agree with Murray. Pop is fucking with everybody's head.

slick'81
12-06-2019, 11:38 PM
This is Bonners ONE clutch playoff moment as a Spur. In 10 plus years, with all his playing time, this was it. One. :lol

Spurs were embarrassed that series and bonner raped on d

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:38 PM
:lol Give me Bonner every day of the week tbh

https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84
https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84

2-1000000 in his playoff life, tbh lol. Which, come to think of it, might be better than DeRozan in the playoffs lol.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:39 PM
Even on a night where Demar hits 3s, he still can’t win the fans on here. :lol not that I’m suddenly lobbying for him to stay, but there’s still “trade Demar” posts after this.

BillMc
12-06-2019, 11:39 PM
I agree with Murray. Pop is fucking with everybody's head.

Meanwhile, Murray needs to figure out how to dribble, pass, run an offense and shoot. Pretty essential for a point guard.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:40 PM
Spurs were embarrassed that series and bonner raped on d

Exactly, Randolph butt-fucked Bonner right after those threes. And we would've won had our Lord and Savior Manu had played that series, tbh.

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:41 PM
I agree with Murray. Pop is fucking with everybody's head.

Yeah, but Pop really needs enroll in "Rotations 101." Come to think of it, a CCE (Continuing Coaching Education) requirement might be a good idea.

Floyd Pacquiao
12-06-2019, 11:41 PM
It's become painfully obvious Demar has to go. He can't control his emotions and is a giant liability on D. Move him. It clarifies the guard rotations a bit more as well and allows Blockob and LMA to play together.

Pop and the front office aren't cutthroat enough to do that. like say Bill Belichick or Phil Jackson; they would get rid of him in a heart beat

Dex
12-06-2019, 11:41 PM
I wish Pop can give Carroll some burn this game. When no one is playing well, maybe carroll can bring the edge


Really seems like Carroll said something nasty about Pop's wife.

Or he just sucks.

Dude has been awful in the limited playing time he has gotten. That's not on Pop.

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:41 PM
Exactly, Randolph butt-fucked Bonner right after those threes.

:lol Pop not playing Tiago against Gasol and Randolph when they were destroying Bonner, McDyess, and Blair.

UZER
12-06-2019, 11:42 PM
Spurs were embarrassed that series and bonner raped on d

Of course. Bonner was always raped in the POs. Pop went with the patented game 5/6 oh well let’s finally put player X (splitter) in the game that can help and should’ve been playing all series.

Dex
12-06-2019, 11:43 PM
I wish Pop can give Carroll some burn this game. When no one is playing well, maybe carroll can bring the edge


Even on a night where Demar hits 3s, he still can’t win the fans on here. :lol not that I’m suddenly lobbying for him to stay, but there’s still “trade Demar” posts after this.

I'm convinced 90% of people just come here to bitch these days. The Spurs just had an exciting overtime win and this thread is still all "fire pop, we should be tanking" posts.

UZER
12-06-2019, 11:44 PM
Yeah, but Pop really needs enroll in "Rotations 101." Come to think of it, a CCE (Continuing Coaching Education) requirement might be a good idea.

:lol you’re on a roll tonight.

sasaint
12-06-2019, 11:44 PM
Meanwhile, Murray needs to figure out how to dribble, pass, run an offense and shoot. Pretty essential for a point guard.

This game was a close contest because Derrick and Dijon were BOTH awful. I was bummed by the realization that Pop may have had to go with the lesser of 2 evils at the end.

ZeusWillJudge
12-06-2019, 11:44 PM
I went to see Ray Wylie Hubbard play. The box score plus atwo pages of this thread, and I'm glad I missed this one. But, hey...two game "streak". :lol

timtonymanu
12-06-2019, 11:44 PM
Of course. Bonner was always raped in the POs. Pop went with the patented game 5/6 oh well let’s finally put player X (splitter) in the game that can help and should’ve been playing all series.

George Hill in 2009 against Mavs, was the key player against them the following year
Splitter in 2011 against the Grizzlies, was the key player against them the following matchup.

I’m expecting this to happen to Lonnie if the spurs are lucky enough to make the playoffs.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:45 PM
:lol Pop not playing Tiago against Gasol and Randolph when they were destroying Bonner, McDyess, and Blair.

Yeah, even Prime Pop made his big mistakes, tbh.

spurs1990
12-06-2019, 11:46 PM
If Derrick isn't healthy sit him out and give Lonnie more burn. It's clear he's never gonna go away from Patty/Forbes/Beli so fucking get White healthy and give Lonnie the extra minutes.
White badly needs time off. They did this with DeRozan towards the middle of last season; in his case to rejuvenate him. White just needs to rehab his aches and pains. Bring up Witherspoon since he's a two-way player.


I wish Pop can give Carroll some burn this game. When no one is playing well, maybe carroll can bring the edge
Uh, no. After his turnover fest last game he doesn't belong anywhere near the court. That controversial Harden miss/made dunk was the product of a horrific Carroll pass.

FkLA
12-06-2019, 11:48 PM
Beli didn't take Walker's minutes. He took Forbes'. Walker play his stint as DeRozan's backup, and Beli came in with the starters and returned when DeRozan took Gay's spot (when Pop normally runs Mills, Forbes and either White or Murray as the perimeter players). Beli's likely not going to fall out of the rotation completely. Pop should play DeMar at PF as much as he can get away with, so there'll be games where they are a ton of minutes for all of them.

So Belli got a promotion for sucking so much? Now he gets to close games for Forbes instead of just being DeRozan's back-up? Makes sense.

SpurPadre
12-06-2019, 11:49 PM
White badly needs time off. They did this with DeRozan towards the middle of last season; in his case to rejuvenate him. White just needs to rehab his aches and pains. Bring up Witherspoon since he's a two-way player.


Uh, no. After his turnover fest last game he doesn't belong anywhere near the court. That controversial Harden miss/made dunk was the product of a horrific Carroll pass.

He was the worst offseason acquisition of any team this year, tbh.

Chinook
12-06-2019, 11:49 PM
:lol why?

Because pretty much all of the spacing issues go away when DeMar plays there, and he's better at handling bigger players rather than keeping up with quicker guys. Regardless, Pop has had little issue getting two that trio out there with DeMar playing the three, so it just sounds like you're complaining to complain.

Chinook
12-06-2019, 11:54 PM
So Belli got a promotion for sucking so much? Now he gets to close games for Forbes instead of just being DeRozan's back-up? Makes sense.

That's not really a promotion. Beli "closed the game" because he was shooting well, and despite this new-age ST thinking that you HAVE to play defense-first guys to beat teams, you need spacing for plays like the tying three to work.

It's just so weird. Forbes hasn't lost his spot either, nor Walker. It's like folks would rather the team lose playing EXACTLY the way they want them to rather than winning by playing hot hands or by having shooters on the floor.

Russ
12-06-2019, 11:58 PM
This is Bonners ONE clutch playoff moment as a Spur. In 10 plus years, with all his playing time, this was it. One. :lol

And they lost that game.

FkLA
12-06-2019, 11:59 PM
That's not really a promotion. Beli "closed the game" because he was shooting well, and despite this new-age ST thinking that you HAVE to play defense-first guys to beat teams, you need spacing for plays like the tying three to work.

It's just so weird. Forbes hasn't lost his spot either, nor Walker. It's like folks would rather the team lose playing EXACTLY the way they want them to rather than winning by playing hot hands or by having shooters on the floor.

I'd rather lose one game playing Lonnie than win one game playing Belli. You're absolutely right.

Long term, Belli doing anything good is terrible for the team. Just means more minutes.

DPG21920
12-06-2019, 11:59 PM
That's not really a promotion. Beli "closed the game" because he was shooting well, and despite this new-age ST thinking that you HAVE to play defense-first guys to beat teams, you need spacing for plays like the tying three to work.

It's just so weird. Forbes hasn't lost his spot either, nor Walker. It's like folks would rather the team lose playing EXACTLY the way they want them to rather than winning by playing hot hands or by having shooters on the floor.

But they haven’t been winning, so I don’t understand this argument. You shouldn’t need “that play” if you play better to begin with.

itzsoweezee
12-07-2019, 12:00 AM
Dumping on dejounte makes absolutely no sense to me. He was the player of the game. His defense singlehandedly kept them in the game, and he was one of the few guys who was actually efficient offensively tonight.

UZER
12-07-2019, 12:00 AM
And they lost that game.

:lol true

cjw
12-07-2019, 12:02 AM
It's like folks would rather the team lose playing EXACTLY the way they want them to rather than winning by playing hot hands or by having shooters on the floor.

Beli has been bad this year, but can’t deny how important floor spacing is with him out there. Mills/Beli is the top two man combo on the team by net points by a long shot.

Not sure how it stacks up on net Rtg (adjusts for possessions) as I’m not smart enough to tweak Basketball-Ref on my phone. But probably pretty high up there.

Likewise, Demar and Aldridge have been had together, even though they’re in theory the best two players on the team

Russ
12-07-2019, 12:02 AM
Snake Farm.

Chinook
12-07-2019, 12:02 AM
I'd rather lose one game playing Lonnie than win one game playing Belli. You're absolutely right.

Long term, Belli doing anything good is terrible for the team. Just means more minutes.

They played both. Pop shouldn't be dumb and close with Lonnie even though Beli was nailing threes. There's just no point in that.

When Pop benches Lonnie to try to light a fire under him, people cry about losing games. But when Pop goes with a hotter hand to win, then folks are wiling to risk losses just to see their dude out there.

FkLA
12-07-2019, 12:03 AM
Dumping on dejounte makes absolutely no sense to me. He was the player of the game. His defense singlehandedly kept them in the game, and he was one of the few guys who was actually efficient offensively tonight.

He was a disaster on offense. But not as big of a disaster as White and he did bring a lot of energy on defense. IDK about being player of the game though. Even if he was, that's not saying much since this win was ugly af.

Chinook
12-07-2019, 12:05 AM
But they haven’t been winning, so I don’t understand this argument. You shouldn’t need “that play” if you play better to begin with.

FkLA and I were specifically talking about the "closing" unit, so what happened outside of the end of this game doesn't really matter. Anyway, the Spurs have won the last two games with Mills/Forbes and Mills/Beli back courts closing out. The numbers are what they are, but they didn't turn this around by not ending games with two of those three guys.

FkLA
12-07-2019, 12:09 AM
They played both. Pop shouldn't be dumb and close with Lonnie even though Beli was nailing threes. There's just no point in that.

When Pop benches Lonnie to try to light a fire under him, people cry about losing games. But when Pop goes with a hotter hand to win, then folks are wiling to risk losses just to see their dude out there.

He actually didn't do shit in the second half outside of the game tying basket. He was also his normal self on defense. IDC if he made that shot, the Spurs won in spite of him being out there. He really has no business playing, much less closing.

Chinook
12-07-2019, 12:09 AM
Beli has been bad this year, but can’t deny how important floor spacing is with him out there. Mills/Beli is the top two man combo on the team by net points by a long shot.

Not sure how it stacks up on net Rtg (adjusts for possessions) as I’m not smart enough to tweak Basketball-Ref on my phone. But probably pretty high up there.

Likewise, Demar and Aldridge have been had together, even though they’re in theory the best two players on the team

Mills/Beli entered today plus-9 per 100. If they played enough to qualify for the top-20 lineups, that outcome would rank them second behind Mills/Poeltl and ahead of Mills/Gay.

Leetonidas
12-07-2019, 12:10 AM
Lol.... Murray was nowhere near player of the game. He did the only thing he can do decently which is play defense and even that wasn't spectacular except for a few good sequences towards the end of the game. Right now our PG rotation is terrible. White is hanging his head like a bitch every possession and Murray just looks out of control most of the time. Pop deserves tons of criticism and I've shit on the senile bastard all year but in no way is Whites mental fragility or Murray's lack of skill Pops fault.

That being said Pops lineups were straight trash. Does this guy forget he can sub players in OT or what?

Chinook
12-07-2019, 12:12 AM
He actually didn't do shit in the second half outside of the game tying basket. He was also his normal self on defense. IDC if he made that shot, the Spurs won in spite of him being out there. He really has no business playing, much less closing.

Spacing isn't about hitting shots. Plus-minus gets misused and contorted a lot, but it exists for a reason, and it definitely tells the tale of Beli's impact tonight.

FkLA
12-07-2019, 12:15 AM
Spacing isn't about hitting shots. Plus-minus gets misused and contorted a lot, but it exists for a reason, and it definitely tells the tale of Beli's impact tonight.

Fuck Belli.

Chinook
12-07-2019, 12:19 AM
Fuck Belli.

That's your business.

DPG21920
12-07-2019, 12:38 AM
FkLA and I were specifically talking about the "closing" unit, so what happened outside of the end of this game doesn't really matter. Anyway, the Spurs have won the last two games with Mills/Forbes and Mills/Beli back courts closing out. The numbers are what they are, but they didn't turn this around by not ending games with two of those three guys.

I guess I don’t see the point in discussing something so granular when it doesn’t get to the root of the overall issue. Maybe I can see your argument in a bubble of focusing on the closing unit; but that does not explain why things get to that point, but I digress.

spurs1990
12-07-2019, 12:58 AM
Watch the replay of the Kings last four attempts; the first Ariza 3pt at 8 seconds hits the out-of-bounds line. The Spurs coaches then start to point at the line afterwards

https://i.ibb.co/mXyXRQQ/38-FA0347-3-D79-4-A48-A622-259844-C0-F9-E6.jpg (https://ibb.co/LJgJ044)

UZER
12-07-2019, 01:24 AM
George Hill in 2009 against Mavs, was the key player against them the following year
Splitter in 2011 against the Grizzlies, was the key player against them the following matchup.

I’m expecting this to happen to Lonnie if the spurs are lucky enough to make the playoffs.

:lol sounds about right.

siraulo23
12-07-2019, 01:30 AM
Jesus Pop stubborn as fuck sticking to Murray Mills Beli Derozan Aldridge lineup in the 4th quarter and whole OT

Fuck Pop

duncan2k5
12-07-2019, 01:41 AM
Lol.... Murray was nowhere near player of the game. He did the only thing he can do decently which is play defense and even that wasn't spectacular except for a few good sequences towards the end of the game. Right now our PG rotation is terrible. White is hanging his head like a bitch every possession and Murray just looks out of control most of the time. Pop deserves tons of criticism and I've shit on the senile bastard all year but in no way is Whites mental fragility or Murray's lack of skill Pops fault.

That being said Pops lineups were straight trash. Does this guy forget he can sub players in OT or what?

ill take a young murray making turnovers while being aggressive...happened with young ginobili (while ginobili was older at that)...hell, it happened with old ginobili...we forgetting the "turnobili" nickname?

all ppl can point to is his bad stretch in the beginning of overtime with 3 turnovers as all the evidence they need that he didnt play well, while conveniently neglecting all the good he brought...it's safe to say without him, spurs fold in the 4th quarter...the guy even inspired patty to play defense...AND he hit the gamewinning jumper...shut down his man in overtime, including harrison barnes when there was a switch

tbdog
12-07-2019, 06:45 AM
Jesus Pop stubborn as fuck sticking to Murray Mills Beli Derozan Aldridge lineup in the 4th quarter and whole OT

Fuck Pop

Beli literally got the Spurs into OT. FFS

Shakril
12-07-2019, 06:53 AM
Beli literally got the Spurs into OT. FFS

Yes, cause Spurs were Lucky that he hit it and that the Kings suddenly were not able to score anything. You dont close out a game with Belinelli.

ElNono
12-07-2019, 07:19 AM
:lol Give me Bonner every day of the week tbh

https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84
https://youtu.be/tSerVBppBgE?t=84

lol Richard Jefferson in that video and Porker D in full effect on that Battier game winner...

duncan2k5
12-07-2019, 07:35 AM
Beli literally got the Spurs into OT. FFS

We probably beat them in regulation without his bad defense

Rosewood
12-07-2019, 01:30 PM
Jesus Pop stubborn as fuck sticking to Murray Mills Beli Derozan Aldridge lineup in the 4th quarter and whole OT

Fuck Pop Pop is trying to tank, retard.

dbestpro
12-07-2019, 01:35 PM
Too many open shots passed up to dribble into the defense and force one. It was contagious.

JeffDuncan
12-07-2019, 01:40 PM
Pop is trying to tank, retard.

But for what? There's no Tim Duncan II this season.

FkLA
12-07-2019, 02:05 PM
just fucking lol at Marco "the Italian POS" Shitinelli closing

BlackAndWhite
12-07-2019, 02:39 PM
When are game grades coming??

spurs10
12-07-2019, 05:55 PM
When are game grades coming??
:hungry:

lefty
12-08-2019, 11:49 AM
lol Richard Jefferson in that video and Porker D in full effect on that Battier game winner...

paperboy77
12-10-2019, 07:57 AM
Kings lookin like a pretty good team and a good win for us. Just beat the Mavs and Rockets.